Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:882 Beasts of the World

Episode Date: August 21, 2022

Andy writes "Beasts of the World is a seven-part series, which seeks to investigate the histories, evidence, and common theories surrounding the numerous cryptid creatures that have been reported around the globe. In Volume 1. – Hairy Humanoids, we examine the diverse collection of hairy, bipedal, man-like monsters that are believed to inhabit the world's remote and lonely regions and ask the question – do they represent a single species, or, could there be other lesser-known varieties of Wildmen, yet to be revealed? This book seeks to classify some of these distinct kinds and proposes a separation (even when two or more 'types' or 'species', appear to be sharing a similar geographic area) based upon key physiological and behavioural differences. And so, we find that the Man-Ape – Bigfoot of the Pacific Northwest, is something quite different to the Wildman – Almasti, of the Caucuses Mountains; and that the Relict Ape – known as the Yeti, is more akin to the Florida Skunk Ape, than the Chinese Yeren… Are these mysterious monsters surviving Gigantopithecus, extant Neanderthals, undiscovered apes, hidden tribes, or simply folklore and fable, repackaged for the modern world? Join me, as I go in search of these Hairy Humanoids and the many yet to be discovered Beasts of the World."   Check out the book here

Andy McGrath with his new book, Beast of the World. Here's your final question. Is the Loch Ness Monster real? I'm going to say yes, because I'm a Nessie guy. That was my whole beginning. And I've spent a lot of time at Loughness. And I think it's real. I don't believe it lives there all the time.

That's my take on it. You're a good man, Andy. I thought you were going to break this Yankees' heart and say no. It looked like somebody. was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelled me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up, and that shocked me. They don't make people that big.

The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach, I've never seen anything moved like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language, and they were chompering away back and forward, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like, and there is no way on this planet of what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Jesus, quite get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir?

That son of a bitch is about 6'9, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-uh. Hey, this is Luke Griggs, and you are listening? to Cesscoach Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight.

Got a great show plan for you. We're going to be chatting with Andy McGrath. And Andy is a researcher, investigator, author in England. And I've known Andy for years. Great guy, excellent writer. I really like how he presents his content. He has a new book out, and it's called The Beast of the World. Harry Humanoids, Volume 1.

and we're going to be chatting about the different humanoids found around the world. I know here in North America, it's Sasquatch and it's Bigfoot, but these things are outside of North America, and people are definitely running into them. So we'll be discussing the book tonight, and I'll be asking Andy his theories after looking into this from around the world, along with some of these other weird creatures no one ever talks about or you don't get to hear about.

If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquashchronicles.com. And if you get a chance, go to Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Andy to the show. Andy, thanks for coming on. Thank you, Wes. I'm delighted to be here again. It's always a pleasure. Yeah, man. And I know I'm excited to talk about the book tonight. Again, it's

called The Beasts Around the World. Most of your books I buy on Amazon. Is there other places where people can pick up the book outside of Amazon? Oh, absolutely. It's everywhere. You can go to Barnes & Noble. Gosh, it's on all of the online platforms as well, Cobo and Apple and everything else you could possibly think of.

It's also available as an audiobook. Just come out as an audiobook, narrated by an English gentleman named Jonathan Rufus Welsh who narrated Beas of Britain as well and if you're busy or you're driving or commuting like I often am, it's an easy way to take the book in while you're on a move.

Yeah, that's really cool that you're doing audio version and I think it's cool that you wrote a book about these hairy humanoids outside of North America. Everyone knows Bigfoot, everyone knows Sasquatch and especially here in America, you started asking a researcher, well, tell me about the Yowie, and they know it lives in Australia, and it's basically the Bigfoot, and that's really all you'll get from them, or tell me about the Barmanu.

Most of them have no clue what you're talking about. And I think in order to get a clear picture on what's going on in this subject, you kind of have to take a step back and look at the whole picture. So that's why I really want to read the book. What made you write this book about her humanoid around the world? Well, I initially was going to write a book about the North American Sasquatch, and I looked into it, and it was a huge, huge subject. And I thought, perhaps I could tack on a few other hairy humanoids around the world as well. And then I thought, actually, this is two bigger subjects.

This is a book that even as a compendium at North American Sasquatch, of sightings. You could have volumes upon volumes of just sightings, just. just, you know, basic, boring, run-of-the-mill descriptive sightings and no other text. And also there's tons of books about it. They're everywhere. And me being a Brit, you know, outside of that situation, what would I know better than somebody that's on the ground there, boots on the ground in North America and talking to those witnesses?

And I've always been interested in international cryptosology anyway. I thought, well, let's look at other hairy humanoids around the world. and see what we can find. And of course, there were things that we've heard of before, like the Yowie or the Yeran in China, the Almasty and the Almas and these other creatures around the world. When I started looking into it, actually, I thought, hang on a second. Not only are there lots of other hairy humanoids,

everywhere else around the world in all the world's continents except Antarctica outside of North America, But they also vary in size and description and appearance. And in many instances, there seem to be two or more types of species, maybe even sharing a similar geographic area, you know, in the same ways, perhaps like a brown bear and a black bear might. These niche habitats and they have this non-symbiotic mutualism almost going on. And I thought, wow, this is amazing.

But in research in what they could be, there was lots of different classifications. I think loads and loads of them. I thought, well, this needs to be simplified a bit. Clearly, there's more than just your giant manate type, as Jeff Meldon would describe it, the North American Bigfoot, which typically you see is an upright, bipedal hominoid, 7 to 9 feet tall, large flat feet,

like humans, but with this, that midfoot flexibility, that mid-tarsal bridge, there's other types as well, like a wildman type, but Neanderthal type, almost you see in Europe and some places in the Caucasus, that has more of a manlike appearance with differentiated head hair to its body. It's shorter generally, five to seven feet, still stocky and hair covered.

And has this broad and arched track that's almost human-like in a way. And I thought, wow, you know, there's just seems to be so many going on to other things as well like the Yeti. Is that more of it, relicabe? And it just overwhelm me. I found, in fact, so much research that in doing the book, I had to just select five or six examples each type and ignore the rest and just give an overview of those particular characters in the Bigfoot Pantheon or the Wildland Pantheon. And it's been a great journey. It's been amazing. I've found out things I never knew before.

When you were researching for the book and you were kind of looking into. to the Yowie, the urine, the rock apes, all these different creatures around the world. Was there any similarities that you've found? And what were some of the differences you found between these other hairy humanoids and like Bigfoot? One of the things I find similar about nearly all reports around the world, at least in the hairy manlike apes. So some things like Bigfoot, which is sort of a giant man. an ape, something like Bial Mastie, more of a wild man, and let's say the Yeti, more of a relic

ape. The things they seem to have in common, one is this bad smell, which they emanate in certain situations. This can be experienced before somebody has their sighting, or quite often while the creature is leaving off, there's some kind of standoff taking place, where this terrible skunk-like, almost wretching smell seems to overcome. those who are witnessing them. It seems, it has been attributed to the male of the species.

I know in the case of the Almasty, at least anyway, researchers like Marie-Jing Kaufman would often say that the male of the species was said to have this smell that would linger, almost any way that this creature had been would smell for almost a week afterwards with this very musky, skunk-like smell. That's something that they have in common. Their upright nature seems to be, their bipedal nature seems to be something that they share in common. Their hairy, their hair-covered her suit appearance also seems to be something they have in common as well.

There was another thing which I found very, very curious as well. There are many cases of some of these creatures like the, um, the, um, the Alman. master, like the Yawi, and some Sasquatch reports as well, exhibiting some kind of bioluminescence in their eyes, at least that their eyes appear to light up without any external illumination at night. At least there are several suggested cases of that. And finally, one of the things that was very curious is constantly you get these tales in very rural indigenous places and in cultures all around the world and also in parts of our cultures

of these backward-facing feet that some of them are supposed to have which I always interpreted as an animal hiding its tracks. And indeed in some places, you find this time and time again, they'll say, if you see the tracks of some of these creatures

going in one direction, you should actually assume that they've gone in the opposite way. Yeah, the backward tracks. Much like you, Andy, I always assumed they were kind of covering their tracks, but it's weird. It's very strange. As far as like behavior goes, I mean, do you see any difference with how they behave, you know,

from like, let's say the Almasty to the Yowie, the urine and Sasquatch? Do they all kind of behave the same or did you notice any difference in their behavior? The Almusti, generally speaking, they tend to be, at least those in the Caucasus, they tend to be wary of human beings, afraid of them. They're very scared of dogs, by all accounts. They don't like dogs at all and fear dogs. They also

have this tendency to collect all bits of human clothing. So there are many, many accounts of them wearing all bits of shepherds capes and occasionally covering up parts of their bodies. And I'm wondering, you know, I do wonder if that's do with that part of the world often being very, very cold.

Is there something in that that's very cold and they can often be seen wearing these bits of, I suppose, discarded human clothing? Also in that area of the world, there's many stories of people sort of going swimming or leaving their clothes upon the shore or leaving things unattended while they're hunting in a spot in the woods and coming back and finding their things stolen by the Almasters. And it was common amongst Carbaudian shepherds and other people in the other people in the caucuses if things were stolen to attribute it to Almasties.

Yeah, the clothes thing is fascinating what you came across. A lot of older accounts and old newspapers and stuff in North America, you'll find that where people were report seeing these creatures and they're wearing people's clothes. I'm assuming they would take them off the clothes line. And maybe it doesn't get reported so much now because we don't keep our clothes outside. But, you know, even in Afghanistan, I had a returning soldier or a veteran tell me about an encounter. And they were like 13,000 feet up going after these guys up in the mountains there in Afghanistan. And they came across this creature and it was wrapped up what appeared to be like in a rough.

It looked like it stole a rug from a hut or something, and this thing was wrapped up in it, and when they hit it with the light, it stood up. My understanding of the Alma's the Almacy in Russia, their appearance is very human-like. That's what I really started finding in a lot of encounters. When you were researching this, did you come across that, that they had this more human-like appearance? Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, and we've got great because of researchers like Mirajin Kaufman and also on the sort of the Chitral Mountain Range, the Afghan and Pakistan side, people like the deceased researcher Georgi Magrana who looked into the barmanu there. And I think those two creatures are very almost probably the same.

We have great descriptions of these creatures actually. So generally speaking, they're bipedal. They're five to six feet tall. they're very dense they can wait up to about 500 pounds covered in reddish brown or dark brown shaggy hair again with the hair in its head

being noticeably differentiated to that on its body and it appears long and tangled hair the males and females can sometimes reach down to the waist you know separate to their body hair eyes that they're slanted of reddish in colour

almost seem to admit a luminous red glow at night again almost like a kind of like lit cigarettes. Face has a prominent eyebrow rich, overhang the eyes, and the cheekbones are wide with a flatten nose and flared nostrils, receding round and lower jaw and has lips that are thin

and monkey-like, and it appears to possess a very minimal muzzle of sword. So I think that's the impression of this halfway between man and monkey that people get from them, that they've got human-like hair or at least the hair that's different to their body that the muzzle is very

recessive even though it does seem to have some ape-like appearance it's very flat for all extent yeah I know a lot of those reports the Olmesty doesn't seem very big it doesn't I mean it's big but it doesn't seem like what Sasquatch is

in North America Sasquatch seems much bigger more intimidating and I don't really get that from a lot of the reports from the almasty. And I know you've spent a lot of time really looking into this, and I'm very curious about vocalizations. You know, here in North America, everyone knows about the whoops,

the weird chatter, the samurai chatter, the screams, the whistles. And I'm curious, as you looked around the world at these different creatures and kind of looked into them and how they vocalize, do they vocalize in a very similar way to what we assume, Sasquatch vocalizes? There are differences and there aren't vocal examples all around the world as in this

Sasquatch HAL that we hear so much about with things like the Almasters there tends to be a boom, boom, boom sort of sound that they make a lot or a mumbling, nose blowing sort of sound and often it's reported when they're trying to communicate with each other

or when they were raiding when they're raiding sort of cherry orchards and hemp fields and eating grasses and melons and things like that. So they've got a very bad reputation for raiding sort of vegetable patches and, you know, fruit orchards in the Caucasus that belong to various farmers. And they report these boom, boom, boom, boom sort of sounds that they make. And this big chewing and mumbly, nose blowing, chaos, it sounds almost like a party going on. by the signs of it.

And there's even stories of farmers coming out to look to see what's happening and finding these creatures in their fields, feeding on the hemp and corn and other things like that. As far as the year in, I feared that there are some chattering sounds, some uggs kind of signs that happen, but I don't really have anything for the Yowie. Clearly, it's more of an aggressive creature

and some of the other ones, at least a lot of the encounters, confronting cars or throwing logs at cars or even in one case with the Awee, a very, very large the Ayao, coming out and slamming its fist down upon the bonnet of a truck even one day. I think they do tend to be quite separate to one another in their behaviors. Yeah, the Di Awe definitely has a bad rap. It definitely has a reputation of having a piss poor attitude and being very aggressive. You know, it would be kind of a cool project for someone is if you could kind of sit down with people from Russia, people from China, people from Vietnam, Australia, and, you know, kind of go down the list, you know, here is reported sounds that we think Sasquatch is making.

Here's the whoops. Here's the screams. Here's the whistles. Here's the weird samurai chatter. They seem to talk to each other. Are you guys finding any of this? Or we're finding these weird structures. We really really. don't know what's making them here's some pictures of them people just find them in the middle of nowhere are you guys finding this too i think it would really change the game if we could sit down with one another and just go hey here's what we know so far here's what gets reported you know what what's going on with where you guys are at it would be a very cool research project and i think it'd be very eye-opening i think it would be amazing and i i think that is a point of correlation again it's it's hard because

without a visible encounter, you know, you're attributing a noise to something you believe to be making it. But in cases, for instance, with Jordi Magrana, who was, you know, there with the Kalash people and the various other people surround the Chitral Mountain Range near the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan for so long, he had an encounter himself, I think, at 700 meters. He had a big, strong voice, almost like some cries and guttural sound. with, he said, identifiable articulate speech. Or something that sounded that way, heard at nightfall. They were powerful, the echoes of the mountains, like human calls. But they were high-pitched, almost like a teenager or a woman. And he said, the emissions, they sounded for about a minute,

they lasted for a minute, and then ended. And he also had a witness who came forward recording that, an English woman who'd been, a morning line, I think, in which she'd been teaching and living amongst the Kallash people for 30 years there and learning about their folk culture

concerning the Balmanu. And she heard something as well while walking in the mountains and she said it was an extremely loud cry that came from across the river seemed like a woman's scream. But she also, in stress, it was definitely animal-like.

but like somebody who was in great agony, you know, she was given hyenas, jackals, mountain lions, even snow leopard called to compare it to, and she said, this was basically and clearly different. She still shuddered. Every time she thought about the experience, it was clearly something definitive

and very unusual to catch her attention like that. Yeah, that's interesting. I know Barmanu accounts in Pakistan are hard to come by, but they're out there if you search for, them. You know, in North America, there's a lot of really odd and strange things that get reported with Sasquatch. You mentioned the glowing eyes, for example, and I guess the only box I would really put it in is like paranormal, because I don't know how to explain some of the things that witnesses report that they do. Do you see that the strange, the paranormal get

reported around the world as well? I didn't really pick up on any of those types of things. The book is set up actually for people to be able to just really, I suppose, jump in and out anywhere. And in every creature there's a section that talks about, you know, behaviors, measurements, background, history, even etymology of names. And in theories, there are some supernatural theories investigated for these things because a lot of the people who experience these creatures have supernatural ideas about them. you know but they and of course the same in north america as well but some of the more some of the first nations people there are crossovers in many cultures where you know the spiritual and the the natural are sort of existing in a similar realm in many cases so it's you know it's hard to differentiate that from an actual supernatural experience but i never heard if anybody's saying

outside of North America, oh yes, you know, we think that this creature disappears into a portal or that they can speak to our minds or anything like that. There does tend to be, especially in places like the Caucasus mountains, it does tend to be, or there was, lots of superstition among the shepherds, and this might go for the infrasand perhaps, that if you saw an Almasdi, you would get a bad headache, which is, a funny thing, isn't it? When we hear about people claiming in North America to be zapped all the time, I don't we?

I was zapped by a big foot when I was out or I was hit by infrasound. And it did strike me as kind of odd that those shepherds there had that old folklore. The old folk said, if you see an Al Mastay, it's bad luck and you'll get a bad headache. Strange. Yeah, that's strange. That's very strange.

You know, you might want to research a little bit more of some of the weird stuff. I'm telling you, even like the aboriginals in Australia, they have some bizarre accounts, man, some very weird encounters. And, you know, like in Asia, even the Yeti, I know they consider it kind of a weird spiritual being. And North America, some of these Native American tribes, man, they have some weird stories. But I hope people go out and get the book. I really do.

I enjoy your writing. I'll be getting a copy of it for sure. Again, it's called the beast of the world. And is there any accounts in the book that you can share with us? That kind of stuck with you. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, they're really awesome, amazing, amazing encounters in the book.

And I think people, to me, anyway, I'll give you a few with them, actually. I think they're really amazing. Perhaps a few theories as well, if that's okay. was regarding the Yeran, actually, what are the encounters, and there are many, many encounters in Yeran law and research that have been recorded over the years. And there are many great scientists, actually. They're engaged, still engaged, in the hunt for the Yeran.

And it has oddly crossed over into governmental research, you know, at points in China. So I think that's a very interesting aspect. One of the ones that really grabbed me, actually, was in 1974, when it made the first. They called Ying Hongva, a carder of the Qing Chao, production brigade of Chershan commune in Van County, was gathering herbs on Ching Longshai Mountain

when he encountered a female yearn, which he described as being covered in long grayish white hair with prominent brow ridges, oval, British-colored eyes, and a monkey-like mouth that was wider than the humans stretched out its long arms which had large hands and long fingers to grab him

and he reflexively grabbed it by its hair hacked its left arm with a machete causing it to run off into the forest making a sound that sounded like wow wow like that and afterwards he was left holding 20 or 30 strands

of its hair in his hand and that to me really stood out because there are various places in China where there are monuments to year in habitation or a monument saying that a yeron once lived here, et cetera. And in those monuments it's often asserted, or these

I suppose landmarks, you know, on the trail, it's often asserted that a yearan would live there and kidnap people, kidnap passes by. And one of the things that really stands out about the Chinese yearn, because most wild men, kidnapped and you hear of a male while when kidnapping women, it seems to be. But the female yearn will also kidnap men to breed with. I thought that was, you know, that's a really strange sighting because of that. Not only are there reports of them trying to take men, but also historically they've got this folklore surrounding it of men being kidnapped and kept his

mates, I guess. Yeah, that is fascinating because mainly, hear women being taken. I'm trying to think of an example in North America. I guess Albert Outsman would be the only example I can think of. I'm sure there's others, but it's normally the warning is to keep an eye on your women and children. It's always women and children. It's rarely ever that they take men. Yes, they're children too, actually. Yeah, that's a very, that's a funny sort of correlation between wildland sightings as well. Women and children. Yeah, and I want to have you share more encounters. I want to ask your opinion about something.

You know, you wrote this book, Beasts Around the World, and you've looked into all these hairy humanoids around the world. Do you find it strange that we haven't caught up with them or that they haven't been discovered at this point? I think it's, I think that we consider the world to be a smaller place than it actually is. And I think that even takes place in a country like Britain, for example, where if I told any regular British person that only 6.8% of the entire landmass was covered in urban sprawl, including roads and rural settlements and motorways and everything like that, freeways, they would not believe me. They'd be shocked. It's incredible. We're a tightly packed here. 67 million people. We've got no space. But actually, and this place like North America, which is pretty well explored. It's very, you know, when you get out of there, even, I always mentioned the people landing in Atlanta one time,

the first time, I was shocked by the endless forests, you know, stretching out to the horizon. And I asked somebody, oh, what is that forest? And they said, oh, no, I don't know. That's just, those are just woods. I thought, oh, my goodness, what's in there? Who's in there? And I think, you know, when we come to lesser developed countries in the world,

Nobody really has been into these places. Exploration, hunting, all of these different things, they follow trails. There's so much out there we just haven't seen. So on that basis alone, I think there's plenty of room for an intelligent animal to hide out and just stay out of our way. And if it's clever enough, you know, if it's a hominidic some kind, then easy, easy, you know, just stick out of the way. These guys are dangerous. And generally speaking, when we bump into them, I think we've just caught them unawares. I don't generally think, unless they're being aggressive and like your encounter, they want you out of there.

I think generally speaking, they stay out of our way. And when we bump into them, if it's not an aggressive encounter, they're normally just as surprised as we are. Yeah, so you have the opinion that it's basically just a natural animal that is seen all over the world. and yet no one can catch up with it. I mean, no one, I don't know what word to use. I guess discovery, but I mean, people have discovered it. I mean, I guess legitimately discovered it, you know, like a government coming out and saying, yeah, these things are real.

I mean, whether we have discovered them or not, who knows, right? There's all of these theories out there that they're being hidden. I don't know why they would be hidden, by the way. Why not just break a huge discovery like that? I don't see how it would harm to find a creature like this. I would see what it would upset, scientifically speaking. But yeah, I think it's very possible. Human nature, I think, says that we're at the top animal here.

We know what's going on. We know everything. And I think a lot of these paranormal explanations that aren't based upon strange experience, just that we haven't been able to call it or the creature disappeared and I couldn't find it. And it was right in my line of sight and blah, blah, blah. I think that's generally our own ego where I can't find this thing. You know, I've been stationed there for 30 years or whatever. So it must be supernatural.

You know, it's not me if this ghostly being, I guess, you know, that keeps evaporating into the ether. That's my view. Because every perceived aspect of this creature seems to be animal-like. They observed eating. They've been observed hunting, having families, having young, living in a natural, environment like the woods like the mountains, that doesn't sound like any kind of supernatural being that I could possibly imagine. It seems to be outside of the norms for such an entity. And so my view is still very natural. If we just don't understand what it is and we can't

find it, or at least we haven't. Who knows if there really has been a concerted effort to do so? Yeah, you're right. You know, they are reported to, like, run down deer, eat deer. There's a lot of reports from eyewitnesses where it seems like, you know, it's infrasound is what they're experiencing the effects of infrasound is what it seems like. I mean, no one knows. And that is consistent. And, you know, with regard to them eating and pooping and leaving tracks and people are very consistent. You're absolutely right. People are also consistent, though, when they report, you know, like, for example, you brought up the eyes glowing, which makes no sense when you think about it. If your eyes glow, you wouldn't be able to see. Yet it gets reported a lot, and people are very consistent when they report it.

And I'm talking like country boys. These country boys know eyeshine, and they'll come out and say, you know, I don't know what to tell you, man. The eyes were glowing red like Christmas lights. This wasn't eye shine. And what do you do with those sort of reports? I mean, do you put them in like this guy's lost the plot, so we're putting it over here? I mean, what do you do with those sort of reports? No, not at all.

I think people who are describing those things are telling the truth that they have seen, you know, self-illuminating eyes. They've seen some form of bioluminescence. that's what I would assume it would be in some way what purpose it could possibly serve as a biological function I can't possibly imagine as you say if the eyes were emitting a light then you shouldn't really be able to see with them in a way

but we don't really know anything about this animal when I see things like that or even something like infrasand you know tigers can produce infrasand they believe that they just stun their prey elephants do, crocodiles do it for sure. So there's all kinds of animals that can use this infrasound

and why not a huge creature like that as well. In regards to bioluminescence or this self-illuminating eyes could it just be a biological function that we don't understand? I imagine the first person in

our ancient forebears who saw an octopus camouflaged itself against the rock or a chameleon change color or anything else like that must have been stunned and considered it a magical power because surely there's no way that a natural creature can just change its color, right? What's the, how does that biologically take place?

And yet we know it does. We understand what it happens. And it's not interesting even. It's just, you know, it's an ordinary everyday thing. We're not impressed by it because we know what we understand it. And I wonder if we ever get to the bottom of this mystery. we'll find out a very similar thing about the Sasquatch. Yeah, I think the comparison there is a false comparison

because when we talk about bioluminescence, like in marine life, it's a whole different process than a primate that has its eyes lit up or eyes able to glow. Two completely different things going on there. I'm excited to get the book, though. We're actually friends off the air for the audience. I'm excited to get the book. I'll have it up on my shelf.

And I don't know that anyone else has really done this, you know, looked at hairy humanoid all over the world and kind of compared how they look, how their behavior, some encounters on each one of them. I think it's a very cool idea. And I really can't wait to get the book, Andy. This is my honor and privilege, my friend. I mean, to have you so excited about it, really excites me because when I was doing the research, And there's so much in there.

People will find out about the etymology, the background of some of these names and what they mean and what they mean to different cultures with that area. They'll find out what the creatures are set to eat, how they're supposed to look, their physical appearance, what their behaviors are as well. And then we look at sightings, possible evidence that surrounding or claimed evidence surrounding their, their appearance and their sightings. And then we go into beastly theories on every single animal. So there's a list of common theories, some more rational the way I like them,

some a bit more far out, you know, and we just present the case to the person and some of the theories I've put forward, I totally disagree with. But at the same time, I think it's nice to have these choices to say, well, look, when we look at something like this,

we've got to be slightly skeptical and look at every angle. And in fact, in the book, the supernatural angle is, and the superstitious angle is included many, many times as well. There's, in the book, as well, you know, we talk about monkey monsters and dogmen and little people and other things like that. In one of the dogmen sections, we look at a werewolf sighting in Hull in England. It was called the Weirwolf of Hull, I think I may have spoken to you about it on the last. show and in 2016 there was a rash of sightings regarding this animal and some really really descriptive sightings you know some people saying that they saw it December you know stood up right one moment next down on all fours like a dog vaulted 30 feet over the side of a drain like an embankment with a

river in the middle and vanished it over a wall into some into some gardens looking like a human and a wall and many, many other things behind. There were besides, and somebody saw the same creature eating an Alsatian dog, like a German shepherd next to the same drainage channel and jump over an eight foot high fence and so on and so forth. And then looking at that sighting, I had to look at all kinds of aspects of it.

You know, is there missing Malamut of some kind or Ameri Indian remote or some big dog that could be mistaken for this? could there be actual wolf-like humanoid in the world in England especially? That would be strange. But one of the strange things I looked at, a theory I came across, was collective guilt. And basically, something you put forward that in England, because most wolves were wiped out by the Anglo-Saxons, although there were areas that maintained a population to the 15th century in England and 17th century in Scotland, I think, could the stories of old stinker the world of whole,

including its modern day apparitions, be a collective hallucination, brought on by the cultural guilt we inherited from our ancestors? And that really struck me. I thought, well, that's a bit mad as a theory. But then again, you know, that's entertaining. Let's look into it and say, well, you know, if that's the case,

why don't we see apparitions of bears and other things as well, right? that we also made extinct to know and yeah and more besides anyway the book is very much like that really covers a lot of bases yeah the dog man that that is you know that's one cryptid that I'm stumped by because it seems

very physical when people run into it they'll say it's very physical and I'd really like to read that account you're talking about in it that happened in London but you know with with the dog man they'll do the same thing you know They're eating, a lot of reports of them eating roadkill on the side of the road or, you know, people will see them go into corn and they'll see the corn move.

So they're very physical, but I've had a lot of people try and shoot this saying or claim to have shot this saying. And in every instance, it seems like it's bulletproof, which is odd. For the longest time, I thought, you know, people must be seeing a baboon. They must be seeing some sort of primate like a smaller version of a Sasquatch. And that was a lot of my ego talking. And a weird thing happens. If you ask an eyewitness, they'll tell you. And so I started asking people, was it more like a baboon?

And they'll say, no, it was canine. Which, you know, where do you put that? Where do you put an upright running around canine? But people are seeing it. And they're very consistent when they tell you what they've seen. What do you think that dogman is? Kind of what's your own personal opinion, Andy? Do you think it's something more spiritual?

Do you think it's more physical? Is it some evil paranormal entity? Where do you put the dog man? I mean, being the kind of guy, I did try to meld into this physical realm. And because there's a section in the book on monkey monsters, large, upright monkey reports around the world, I did entertain Lauren Coleman's theory of this under an identified giant monkey, which is this four to six foot tall, muscular body, barrel-chested creature with thick arms and strong legs.

And maybe with this baboon-like face to explain that the dog man like appearance. And I mean, there certainly are monstrous monkey reports like the cardan, like Salvation. and it's not actually around the world that that correspond with that description. But again, like I say, the dogman and the witnesses who see it seem to insist, especially here in England and Europe and North America, seem to insist that in fact what they're seeing was an upright wolf, was not a monkey, was not a mistaken identity. And I suppose, you know, if you've had that kind of experience, you know,

you can really be the judge of that. But in the place of the world, in the book, I've actually looked at other representations of wolf-like creatures, or at least folkloric wolf-like creatures, like the hyena man in Ethiopia or the weird hyena. And that to me was very interesting because, again, we have a dog man, but it's taken from the local fauna, which is the hyena in this case, and not the wolf, which we have a dog man. would be more common in Europe and North America. And that to me seemed to bring home the superstitious element of it in a way, or at least whatever these creatures are, that the description of them has been taken

from that person's mental library of the available animals in their environment. So for a person in North America or Western Europe, for example, yes, that would be a wolf, this upright creature that you're seeing. Perhaps they're seeing the same upright unknown creature in Ethiopia only. the best comparative animal in their mental library from the local fauna is a hyena. So it becomes a hyena man instead of the wolfman.

And that was, you know, that was very, very interesting to me. And also, you know, in that country, there was still very, I suppose, discriminatory, discrimination-based theories about, or witchcraft-based theories about these cryptic creatures and what they could be. there people think they're blacksmiths, like Buddha or witches or witches or witches. And they often used to think that they were the Jews, which, you know, this is an old, a very old, you know, anti-Semitic trope, isn't it? But, you know, this was associated with those people sometimes in Europe as well in the past, or at least witches and wizards, was to have this transformative ability to become wolves. And I just wanted, you know, if it is a real creature.

Are we just describing it with what we've got to hand in our minds as a comparative animal? Maybe that's the reason. Yeah, that's actually a really cool theory. You know, instead of a dog man, they see a hyena man because that's what they know of in the area. I don't know that we would do that necessarily here in North America. You hear a lot of kids do that where they'll have an encounter, something will come up to their window and they'll They'll call the Monkey Man or Curious George or, you know, comparing it to what they have in their library. It's a very cool, cool theory that you have.

The book, again, is called Beasts Around the World, Harry Hominids, Volume 1 by Andy McGrath. Andy, is there another encounter you can share with us from the book? Kind of an example of what someone might expect when buying the book? Absolutely. Yeah. Now, we talked about monkey monsters. Okay, so basically, you know, large upright monkeys, so platterines and catterines that are five to six feet tall, very, very aggressive. And there are lots of examples around the world. The savagas, one, the is Natchi, is another. But one of the things that I really loved was the crowd Dan. And this is a creature that was, in place.

encountered by some very famous scientists on the Gassain Kunda Pass, directly north of Kathmandu. It's a popular trekking route for tourists these days due to its proximity to the capital and Gossenghanda lake, which draws a lot of Hindu and Buddhist pilgrims because it's a very sort of holy and religiously highly regarded lake. And this is in Nepal. So this is a Yerdi country, basically. You know, this is not what we'd be expecting to see something that's a large upright monkey instead of, you know, this relic. So the name cardana, it comes from the Bonar word and we don't know really what it means. But it's also known as Beckbock or Connoorio.

So it's a large upright monkey. It's five foot tall. It's got a black face, yellow eyes, long yellow fangs. And it's well built with this gray head body or long tail and thin legs. That long tail is a very important point here. There's an entomologist. It's 1953, George Books and a physician, George Moore, and they're hiking to the gosan kind of pass in Nepal,

and they've got porters with them. It's the 1950s, and they have this encounter, basically. They get ahead of their porters, and they have a bit of a rest on these rocks, and there's mist everywhere, and there's trees and thick trees around the place. They suddenly find that they're in this weird position

where they're hearing these cries and chatters and hideous roars coming from the undergrowth and this hideous face thrusts apart the leaves and gapes at them and they say it's a face that seemed to extend from ear to ear

with these long yellowish teeth that were chattering, beaded yellow eyes and really angry ferocious face this hand pushes through the leaves and then out comes this creature. It's five foot tall. It's half crouching on these two thin, hairy legs.

It's leering at them, it's furious. And this claws or hands seem sort of dark or black. And it's got this bit draggled, hairy body with this gray hair all over it. Shuffles along with this sort of stoop, like described it as like a neolithic caveman. And it's really well built, but slender. Now, the teeth of bear, it's smiling like an animal, it's got these long fangs, which again reminds me of these wheelhole reports,

protruding from its upper lip, and then they see this sharp flicking behind it, and it's got a tail, like a long tail. This is not a Yeti. And other similar, large upright monkeys are approaching from several different directions, six or seven of them through the mist. They even notice one's carrying a baby around its neck,

and they growling at each other and sort of getting ready, you know, to attack. And there are too many, you know, they see their own dire straits. They fire the guns over their heads, the animals are fighting them away, and they back off. And, you know, these chattering monkeys made three or four attempts to get at them. They keep shooting. And finally, their porters come running up, and the monkey monsters disperse.

But I thought, wow, you know, that's, this is an unusual report. This is a significant thing, you know, something we can. you're very little about. We've got Bigfoot. We've got Yetis. But five to six feet tall are right monkeys. Wow. That's something else altogether. And that's the kind of thing that you'll find in the book.

Yeah, that's a strange one for sure. I think it's cool you threw encounters in there along with information about each cryptid. And I really can't wait to get a copy of the book. For everyone out there, go out and get a copy. Go to Amazon's the easiest, but you can find it anywhere.

It's called The Beasts Around the World by Andy McGrath. And Andy, it's been too long, my friend. Thank you so much for taking the time to come on. Thank you. Thank you. It was always a pleasure. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email.

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