Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:890 Somebody Save Me

Episode Date: September 25, 2022

Tonight I will be speaking to Casey who grew up on a ranch in Humboldt County, CA. Casey and his family have seen the creature on a few occasions. Casey said "A friend and I decided to camp next to the river on the property and something walked across the river and was coming to their tent.   Show Notes: https://sasquatchchronicles.com/sc-ep890-somebody-save-me/

So we're down there most of the day, just swimming, we had a fire going. You know, we went to bed probably around 10. I woke up in the middle of the night because I heard something coming across the river, just splashing like someone was walking. So I kind of peeked out of the tent, and all I could see was the white of the water as it was coming at us. So I ducked back in the tank so I was scared to death. Splash and stopped and it started getting closer to the tent and started making that sound like that talking like and then it would do that. It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind.

It either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. they don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language, and they were chuntering away back and forward,

back and forwards, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like, And there is no way on this planet of what I saw were theirs. What are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about 6'9. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir?

Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-uh. My name is Maximus Decimus Meridus. Commander of the Armors of the North General of the Felix Legions, and you are listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you.

We're going to be chatting with Kevin tonight, and Kevin comes to us from Washington State. He had an encounter when he was working for the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife. And the area where Kevin had his encounter is kind of, it's not far from my home. It's in the Mill Creek watershed out there as you head towards a beach. But I'll let Kevin go into it. We're also going to be chatting with Casey. And Casey, you heard there in the intro, he grew up on this ranch out. out there in California, so he'll be sharing some of his encounters with us.

If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Kevin to the show. Kevin, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, man, I really appreciate you being here. And knowing that it's in the Mill Creek watershed, it's a place or used to be a place if you really wanted to get a great elk. I don't know if they still hunt in that area. It's been so many years since I've been up there. But if you would, before your encounter, kind of tell us a little bit about your background. Okay. Well, in 2016, I graduated from UC Santa Cruz down in California. I was studying evolutionary biology.

And so what that led me to is a C. I was a seasonal job up here when I moved to Washington. I got a seasonal job with the Department of Fish and Wildlife. Freshwater ecology is really one of my passions. I'm really interested in being outdoors and especially around water. I love fishing. I love just being out there in nature. So I was doing stream surveys on coho salmon. It was a seasonal job. And it lasted from October 1st of 2019 to January right around the 10th or so, the 7th or 10th, the first week in January pretty much of 2020, right before the pandemic hit, you know, like it was just still kind of normal life back then. And what I was doing was as the co-host salmon were in the three different watersheds, three different streams that we were surveying, we would each week pretty much, me and my team would

hike the entire length of all three watersheds, which are Germany Creek, Abernathy Creek. Also, Cameron Creek is a tributary of Abernathy and also Mill Creek, which upper Mill Creek, the uppermost segment of this creek is where my encounter happened. And it actually happened to be the very last week I was working there. Thankfully, I didn't have to keep working. It was kind of a little frightening when I had my encounter. And what's the purpose of it? I mean, are you guys going up there to count the fish?

Kind of, yes. So what will happen is these coho salmon, they come into the creeks, and they build these nests out of the gravel on the bottom. It's called a red, R-E-D-D. And that's where they lay their eggs. And so I'll be monitoring for the red. I'll be looking for live salmon in the creek and also any dead salmon. If they have been tagged, I'll take their snout and bring it back to the lab for us to identify the fish.

Yeah, so I'm looking for dead salmon, live salmon, and the Reds. Yeah, and this is like west of Longview. I mean, as you head out towards a beach, I mean, it's real country out there. It's real hiking when you get out there. If you would, just kind of start from the beginning and walk me into what happened. What did you end up seeing that day? Okay. So the way it works is in this case, I was going to what we called Upper Mill Creek, which each survey, depending on the terrain and the conditions, it takes about like roughly two hours or so to hike the entire survey.

Sometimes you'll get through like two or three in a day because you have to bounce around. And these are all logging roads. So it's a lot of like backcountry driving to get to your spots. And my partner that I was with, he dropped me off at Upper Mill Creek where I would hike. And I was doing all of my surveys alone, solo. He dropped me off. and then he would park the vehicle at the bottom of my survey. So I would hike down the watershed and conduct my survey.

And then by the time I got to the end, the truck would be waiting for me there. And there would be a key. I'd be able to access the vehicle and then move it to wherever the next stage was going to be. For instance, I might have had to pick him up at the end of his survey or whatnot. You know, we just kind of played like leapfrog with the beach. vehicles. And where he dropped me off, as I said, it was a logging road, but at this point was the furthest that the vehicle could make it because the, um, wirehouser is the logging company that's up there and they decommissioned it, which means that they took these large culverts out.

So it made like, it basically made it impassable. They put large boulders across the, uh, the middle of the, the road. And so I would be on foot from there out. And so like from where he dropped me off, I still had about another half an hour, 45 minutes to hike just to get to my start of survey, roughly speaking. You know, it's you have to go down the logging road. And then at a certain point, these are all clear cut. So you're able to tell the age of the trees by how tall they are.

And so I would hike past the young trees. which are pretty short, up to the full mature trees that is where the trail would be that I would take downhill to get to the creek. So there was a whole plan for how we would get to our survey. And then we carried an iPad with us and that's where we would start our survey. Once we got to that point, we would hit start. It took GPS signals of our location and it would be able to also be where we put in, data that we came across. So like if we found salmon or reds or anything, I could input it into the iPad at the location it was at. Once he dropped me off, I was alone for at least two hours.

And it was pretty rough hiking, especially near the end where you had to go up this really steep hill. You have to climb on all fours to get up this large steep hill just to get back to the truck after hiking this like pretty sketchy watershed the whole way. It was exciting. It was a lot of fun. But then, you know, my encounter happened. And that day I was like kind of, I didn't feel threatened by it by the encounter. I did feel a more heightened sense of awareness and like a fear of maybe something is watching me the entire time.

You know, my head was I was constantly looking behind me and I was. My mind was kind of playing tricks on me where I was thinking that I would just see something walk across the creek behind me. It was kind of like a mind game that I was playing with myself, unfortunately. And I was on that decommissioned road and I was hiking towards the mature trees that I was supposed to take the trail down. And this thing was on the left side of the road right where I was heading. So where my trailhead was to go down and to the right, this thing was to the left of that. And it went up and to the left. I didn't see it at first.

I was just kind of walking along and just observant of everything. I'm listening to all the sounds. And nothing was out of norm. At that point, what ended up happening was it ran. It ran up the hill to the left. and I didn't see it very long. It was probably two to three seconds, maybe if that, you know, and it stood about, I was guessing maybe a foot to two feet above my height, but it's hard to tell because it was going uphill,

so it was already above me. The way I could determine its height was because it was from about chest level up, it was above the trees. So it was, and the trees were about, I'd say about a foot below me, like up to my eye level or below that is how tall the trees were. Yeah, that makes sense with all the replanting in the area. Yeah, yeah, that's where they replanted and the trees were growing back. And there were, so it must have run up this game trail. It was completely silent.

this thing was pitch black and jet black. It was jet black even in the daylight, which kind of made me feel a little odd because I had never seen like almost like it absorbed the light. You know what I mean? Like I didn't really see like shimmering on it. It just looked black. And you could tell that it was fur or some kind of hair or something throughout its entire body.

I didn't see any other features. It was just this black silhouette in the sun. And it had a pointed head, which totally threw me off. Like, I had previously believed in them. I had never seen one before this trip, before this incident. But I just wasn't expecting to see that shape. You know, like, I didn't know what it was at first. Like, it kind of threw me off, but it stood upright.

and it ran up the hill. And also another feature that I would have to point out is it didn't bounce when it ran. So like the way you and I would run, our head kind of bounces up and down as we go, kind of like a bouncing ball. Well, this thing was perfectly smooth, perfectly straight. And that's something that I totally paid attention to as it was running. And I was guessing that it was running faster than I could run. on flat land, you know, honestly, it was going faster than I would be able to run. And it was

completely silent and it was completely steady, like straight across. So it's not like anything I had seen before. And as I said to you earlier, I studied evolutionary biology. So I knew a bit about like different animals that are out in the forest, you know, but especially when I got home, I told my wife and she thought maybe it was a bear. So obviously I heard that a lot. Whenever I tell people that I had an encounter, they always say it's a bear or not all of them, but a lot of them are saying,

yeah, you only saw a bear and they're kind of like selling it short, but it wasn't a bear because I looked up black bear videos of bears walking on two legs upright. And it just, they look goofy. They look kind of like circus animals, you know, like just kind of like clumsy and they can't run nearly as fast as this thing was going. I would guess. I don't know how fast they can run, but it wasn't a bear. And the head shape was conical.

It reminded me a lot of that old movie cone heads with Dan Aykroyd. That's exactly what its head looked like. But it didn't really have a neck at all. It just came straight down like a tree. So it went straight down to the shoulders kind of thing. Like it had a really burly like a weightlifter's style neck. So I don't know. It's bizarre.

It was so bizarre. Yeah, that Mill Creek watershed, that whole area through there, I actually get a lot of encounters. It's kind of, I guess if you're from Washington State, everyone else means nothing. but if you get on Ocean Beach Highway and head towards the beach, there's a ton of encounters out there. I've had a lot of reports.

So you see this saying and tell me what do you do? What happens next? Yeah, well, I mean, I had to get to the truck somehow, so I figured I'm going to get, do the job. I'm going to finish my task that I'm here for because that's the only way I knew how to get back to the truck because it was already on a different road. And the guy was parking it kind of like,

like in a certain location. And the only way I knew how to get to it was through the creek. And so I walked up. And as I got to my trail to go down to the creek, my heart was just fluttering. I didn't know if there was another one. I didn't know what was going on because there was a decent size tree that it was standing behind on the uphill side of the road. and it was about that size of the tree, the same height almost. And as it stepped out from behind it, that's when it came into the smaller clear-cut trees.

I didn't know what to expect. I mean, I had to go down into this dark forest where the trees were really mature and had to get in this water. And, you know, I'm here to do a job, so I'm going to do it. But I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know if it was going to come back to me and try to find me or something. or I didn't know. So I was just kind of, I didn't know what to expect.

You know, I just wanted to get my job done. And I wanted to do a thorough job I was there to do. You know, I just went through with the task. And I guess my mind kind of blocked it out a little bit. I just kept working and I had to keep reminding myself that I, you know, this actually happened. I saw this. And I didn't really know who to tell or what to like,

other people that I knew, they didn't really believe in it. I have one friend. If you don't mind, Wes, I'd like to give a shout out to my friend Carlos. I talked to him about it because he's kind of the guy that introduced me to the whole concept of Sasquatch. He would go down to Calameth River a lot. And he would tell me all these stories that he heard from some locals and things like that. And that's what got my interest sparked in it. And that's how I eventually stumbled upon your podcast. It was through my buddy Carlos. And so I ended up contacting him a few days after this happened. And I called him up and told him the whole story. And he was like really surprised, really excited. And he basically made sure that I remembered that this is kind of a rare thing for people to come

across. You know, not everyone gets this kind of encounter. So I had to think of it that way. Like, hey, I got to go through and experience something pretty rare. And so that was a special thing for me. Yeah, I think in your line of work, the chances of running into them are a lot greater. I've talked to many wildlife biologists in the Pacific Northwest region that have run into these things. And I think it goes on a lot. And as far as you're not leaving, I think maybe a little bit of shock. And because I know the area, it's not like you can just leave.

You're going to have to be driven out of there. I get completely, you know, the whole mindset. Tell me, though, I mean, did you ever have any more run-ins? Did anything else happen when you had to go back to work? Well, that was actually my last week on the job because, as I said, it was a seasonal position. And so January is pretty much when the co-host salmon run ended. So I didn't go back after that. But I was thinking about it previously before that because I did believe.

believe in them. And so I was wondering about like, would I ever see one and kind of talking to some of my coworkers about it. And one of the guys, this guy Brad that I worked with, he gets all throughout those hills. He does a lot of hunting. And he told me that he had some kind of encounter at one of his hunting camps. He was scoping a hillside across a valley. And he was just kind of using binoculars and going through looking for elk. And he said he saw this human-like figure. He couldn't tell how big it was, but it was running up the hill pretty quickly. And it got to the summit and then came back over the other side and disappeared.

So he saw something and he believed it was a Sasquatch, but he couldn't tell for sure. Yeah, I get a ton of reports, man. Like I said, you know, in the Oregon and Washington, as you head out to almost any road, you're heading out to the beach. there's really nothing out there. There's no one, you'll come across to home here or home there, and if you blink, you'll miss a little tiny town you'll drive through. But there's not a, and there's a ton of vegetation, forest, wildlife.

It's pretty untouched. I mean, and, you know, being in your situation, being that the creature wasn't aggressive, I could see why you would go on, just going to go down there and continue on, even though being in a little bit of shock. Can I ask you with your background and your education? and now seeing this creature, what are your thoughts? What do you think that Sasquatch is? And obviously, there's no wrong answer.

Yeah, I knew I was going to get this question, and I have been thinking about it for a long time. I guess one thing that I should mention is I am a Christian. I know you've talked to people about the book of Genesis and Genesis 6, and specifically, I believe that that book is true. It's like accurate. And if it is, then in Genesis 6, when the sons of God, the fallen angels come down and they're trying to pretty much destroy God's creation down here, they ended up mating with women and that created the Nephilim. I don't believe these are Nephilim.

I believe that's something different. but while they were doing that and trying to kind of ruin God's creation, I think they might have hybridized with animals and made these chimera with like, let's say, a chimpanzee or a gorilla or something like that. And if that's the case, then this could very likely be something like that because for the way it runs, I can't think of anything else in the animal kingdom that runs on two legs that is perfectly smooth like that. almost like a ninja. I also like have heard your, your encounter where you saw them do the spider walk. And that kind of creeps me out. That's like some horror film in my mind. I can't, I can only picture it. I've never seen that. But to me, that seems unnatural, you know, like the way they can crawl around like that and it just doesn't seem right. So I think there's some kind of spiritual component to them. And if the Genesis 6 account,

is true, then why wouldn't there be these other chimera-type creatures that the fallen angels ended up creating somehow? I don't know. So you think it's more of like an abomination? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, they seem to be very physical, but there is a weird side to the subject. And I don't know if it's spiritual.

I don't know what it is, but there is definitely something strange going on. Do you have any plans on going back to the spot? Absolutely. I would love to go back. I've been back twice already. I actually explored that area even further and found another trail. The most recent time, which it was months ago, it wasn't very recent now, but I ended up going all the way down that logging road that I was hiking on. And I found another trail near the end of it.

And it's basically like a, it's where a rainwater would wash down. And I guess there's some quad tracks, like somebody did some four-wheeling back there. And so I hiked up it with my friend. And I found this brand new logging road that basically the trail that it ran up went straight to this other road. So it might have gone onto this other road that I ended up discovering. And it's like it's a pretty cool location up there. There's a whole labyrinth of these roads up there. Yeah, well, let me know.

If you end up going up and no one is going to go with you, give me a call. I'll go with you and we'll go check it out. There's a ton of encounters, like I said, all the way to the beach. There's a lot of reports. And I appreciate coming on, man, and sharing what happened to you. Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm glad I was able to share my experience. Next step on the show, I want to welcome Casey.

Casey, thanks for coming on. You're welcome. Thank you for having me. Yeah, man, I appreciate it. I know your encounter took place in California, kind of northern California, about 40 miles south of Eureka, and you kind of grew up on this working ranch. If you would, just kind of start from the very beginning, because I know your encounter took place around 1992 on this large piece of property. What were you doing and walk us into what happened? It was like the Friday, me and my buddy would decide to go camping down to River by ourselves

on our ranch, which is the 385-acre ranch, and it borders the Hill River. So we decided to go camping by ourselves, which we always did. You know, we're 12 years old. And we got a fire trail that drops down over the hill, a quarter mile away down on the hill. And it has this, like after it floods, the river is on the other side, and it leaves like this little lake kind of thing. It's got its own little thing. It has different, you know, fish than the squaw and clams and everything. So it's a really cool camp spot.

It's right up the hill. So we're down there most of the day, just swimming. We had a fire going. And, you know, we went to bed probably around 10. I woke up in the middle of the night because I heard something coming. across the river just splashing like someone's walking and I look out of the tent I mean this is slowly I'm kind of saying fast but all this happened within I'd say five minutes I'd say the whole thing happened something like that but anyway so I kind of

peeked out the tent and I all I could see was the white the white of the water as it was coming at us and this is probably I'd I was when I remember, I want to say it's like 30 feet out there, 30 to 50 feet. So I ducked back in the tank because I was scared to death. I didn't have my shotgun or anything with me, and my buddies, he couldn't really defend nothing. So anyway, so I kind of nudged him to wake him up. As soon as I woke him up, he didn't even say a word when I woke him up. Anyway, he heard the splashing, he said something's coming.

And that weirdest froze, like right there. splash and stopped and it started getting closer to tent and started making that sound like that talking like like on the Sierra sounds like I keep referring to that but this was like a female kind of it was higher pitched just the start with grunts like uh huh uh and then it would do that and as soon as it do that it turned from our tent and started walking down river I'd say down because that would be north. And it kept me on that the whole time. But I wanted to see it at that point.

So I kind of, it's scary just talking about it. I mean, going back. Yeah, I know that you kind of relive it when you tell it, for sure. I get where you're coming from. The voice that you heard, though, it was more, you know, we always played the Sierra sounds, and I played it there in the very beginning in the intro. and it always has a male tone to it,

but what you heard was female? Yeah, I would say it was a female, definitely. I mean, it wasn't, it was a higher tone voice, or it could have been a juvenile or something. I just, it wasn't as low-toned as the Sierra ones. It was, that's dead on exactly what that sounded like. I mean, but so close to me, it felt like he was right there on my head,

was screaming that. But I wanted to see. I knew I was either going to die or something was going to happen. I wanted to at least see something. I poked my head back out of the tent because at this point it's passing our tent and it's going away from us. So at that point I felt confident enough to try to see it. And as I was looking out, it's like it would get faster and knew I was trying to look at it. it wasn't totally, totally dark.

Like I said, I could see the splashing of the water, but no body, but it wasn't dark enough. You know what I mean? I mean, I can make some stuff out, but the whole time I look out, I didn't see nothing. I don't know if my brain didn't want to see it or it didn't want me to see it or if it's invisible or what. But anyway, so I didn't see it. I ducked back in the tent and it kept making that noise and all of a sudden it started going up the hill. Instead of walking down, river, started going straight up this bank. I mean, this is hard to get up even for, you know, a little 12-year-olds, whatever.

But it started smashing these branches or start smashing stuff, breaking big branches. They've done that like three or four times, broke something big. and at that point it wasn't making noise anymore. It stopped as it was breaking. And then it went quiet. Absolutely nothing. You couldn't hear it climbing or anything anymore. We waited like five minutes.

Just couldn't believe it. Didn't say a word to each other. We just kind of knew, you know, buy our gestures, grab our stuff and get out of here. Because even though it was right there, we did not want to be down there anymore. I mean, this is a quarter mile in the pitch black. We had no flashlights trying to get back up to our ranch house up on the hill. Oh, man. Heart was pounding so bad the whole time.

I mean, this took a half an hour to get back up to our house. Just knowing that thing's probably watching. Because it didn't make it sound after that. There's no sound whatsoever after it started going up the hill, breaking stuff. Yeah, I know we're going back to 19. Had you guys heard stuff on that ranch prior to you seeing it? On the ranch, yeah, we've had a lot of stuff happen. I mean, our chickens would be missing or whatever.

We did have bear out there too, a lot of bear. Yeah, Humboldt County is definitely a hot, hotbed of activity. When you guys went back up to the house and he had a chance to kind of get away from the situation, what did you think it was? I mean, with the stuff going on around the property, did you know? I knew just because I was into Bigfoot all my life. I mean, that's why I always carried a recorder. I was hoping to catch something.

I remember seeing that the Sierra sounds on that 77 or whatever. Damn, I remember hearing that. And that's funny. When it started making that sound down the river, I knew exactly what it was. And, yeah, I was, like, prepared to die. but I knew it was a Bigfoot. I kept preaching my mom and everybody. Bigfoot just, you know, just came by our tent.

I don't know. I can't even. All I can remember is getting up there, freaked out, telling them. And then after that, I don't remember. I must pass out. Yeah, I think I would have, especially with the way they've vocalized. It's like being hit with a bat. I know two years later in 1994, you were with your mom and your brother.

and this was on the property. Take me back to 1994. What happened? What were you doing? And what did you guys end up seeing? Okay. Well, there's like 12 houses on this ranch. There's summer houses.

And there's a back road that runs along the back, and it takes you out to the old orchard, you know, on the other side property, where there's another big orchard and stuff. We were coming back on this, and this is in the daylight. This is probably around 6 o'clock. I think we walked our cows out there, and we're all headed back. We had swings and forts and everything back there,

and we spent a lot of time, especially at night. I mean, looking back, it was kind of freaky to think. But anyway, we're all walking back. We had our three dogs, and it was me and my two brothers and my mom. the dogs, that's what first happened was the dogs started yelp and they ran back to the house. We heard something on the right of us and this is into the woods before it drops over the hill down to the river, but it was like straight across, big redwoods, you know. Not the best division, but we heard something running and we look over and there's this streak

and it was almost diagonal. It wasn't straight up. It wasn't like, you know, and it wasn't swaying to arms or nothing. It was just like a diagonal brown blur, about 10 foot tall. And I know 10 foot tall because I walked over there because the branches were swaying at that height. Just kind of went through the woods like it was nothing.

It was probably going a good 20 miles an hour or so. I mean, faster than us boys. And we grew up there, so we're good at running through. than woods. It was almost the same color as the red would bark. I mean, brownish, and it was kind of a blur. I couldn't make out brownish reddish.

Yeah, it was like, you know, on the front, it was a lighter color than the rest of it. That's all I kind of remember that seeing it. I didn't see no arm swaying or nothing. That's what tripped me out most about it. it's just a diagonal, like, almost like, like, it's just flying. Like, you know what I mean? Not jumping over, nothing, nothing just, it's kind of weird. I knew it was bipedal something.

I'd probably say he was big. I mean, he'd be over seven foot tall. Easy. Yeah, and I know that your mom is there with you. Tony, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. If you would, tell me what you saw that day. It took off in my back, 40, down by the ill river.

But it was huge, like a big old monkey thing, but terrifying. Yeah, they're definitely terrifying. Casey, how far away from you was a creature? It was probably like 30 to 50 feet, I would say. It was going so fast. I mean, we couldn't even start running or nothing as it was going by. I mean, it went by that fast. And judging by how our dogs just took off, it must have been running before, you know,

we even seen anything going or anything happened must have just been just running through the woods, not watching us or anything because I don't know. It wasn't a bear. Definitely not a bear. I know that you guys had sold that property off, but God, I'd love to go up there and take a look. The final incident, I know you and I were talking earlier, and it happened to you about five years later. What year did it happen in? That was probably, that was probably 97 or 98.

It's pretty close to when we're getting ready to move off the ranch. But this is actually up in Mud Springs. We used to go hunting up there. I think it's up somewhere past Densmore, Mad River. Anyway, we were hunting with my brothers and stuff, but I always went by myself. And I was coming up over, you know, this is in broad daylight. I'm always really quiet.

I didn't even hunt. I shot my first two deer, and after that I was done because I didn't like venison anyway. So I always carried a camera, but I didn't catch nothing on a camera, but I wish. Anyway, I come up over this little knoll, and there's another little creek bed that drops down probably 20 feet and then back up. As soon as I came over this little thing,

the brown thing brushed past in front of this pine tree and drop over the hill. I mean, so quick, all I'd seen was the top of it. I remember seeing the brown, but I can't remember making out any details of what it is. and I came up over in the hillmore and this branch was still swaying and I walked over to that tree and this time I'm 5-11 and I tried to reach my hand up to where that branch was

and it was about two foot above where I could reach still swaying and I hear this thing I hear walking or whatever I mean because deer kind of sound the same as someone if they're going like you know walking Like, I heard that down the hill and get quieter. And I started going down after it, find it, but it disappeared so quick.

I mean, I could almost run down that hill faster than, you know, if you could imagine running down the hill, how fast you'd be. That thing is gone. Quicker than I can run down the hill after it. So at that point, I already had my other experiences. I wanted to see it, you know, but I hiked down to the creek. I kept going down there, and at that point, I started getting this feeling, like, I started getting spooked. I'm all, well, now I'm so far away from the camp, you know, I know I got an 8 millimeter, but whatever that was, you know, you don't think about shooting.

This thing's too big, just. I mean, so I circled back around, came up to this camp really quietly. to hear me or anything, but I came back up to the campsite and told them about it. Of course, you know, they're all, they don't believe me, but... Yeah, and I want to ask you more questions about this ranch. Before I do that, let me ask you, what do you think Sasquatch is? And it's something I like to ask everyone, and there's no wrong answer because no one knows. my opinion I really think he's either aliens that

you know like or an alien's piece of whatever came here to live not not alien alien but you know what I mean or a higher human only that's more capable of doing stuff like interdimensional and they could you know like telepathic and stuff they just like on the cameras that was weird that was the only time I didn't have my quarter and I had that experience, but I truly think

they're just a higher evolved species in us or aliens that are living here and that's why they're covered up. Can I ask you, Casey, what makes you think that? Or what makes you feel that way? Because looking out and trying to see because I know I've seen the water in the foot tracks

but I could not see a being And I keep trying to, with my mind, go back to try to see, there's just nothing there. I just can't, I can't even try to remember. That's like a blank part of my mind. Yeah, and it's not that I disagree with your theory at all, Casey. I had a guy one time, there's so many weird things that go on with Sasquatch. He was being paced out. So this guy's being paced out of the woods.

And I asked him how, you know, and this is during the day. and he said it was only within like three feet of the wood line. He could see the branches moving and brush moving, but he couldn't see what it was. And so it's pacing him all the way out. Well, he gets to the edge of the woodline. Generally, that's where they stop when they're pacing you out. What was weird about his encounter is, so he gets out to this open field and he starts leaving. And this thing scream and roared at him.

And he turned around, he's like, this thing had to have been 10 feet for me, five feet for me and there was nothing there. There's definitely weird stuff that goes on with these creatures. Can I ask you on that property, that for a ranch that you guys grew up on, were they ever, did they ever come up to the home or were they ever aggressive with you guys? I wouldn't say they're aggressive. We had a lot of bear there and stuff, but they're aggressive. Yeah, they wouldn't never attack us or nothing.

I mean, or starless to the point where we'd go, because we always had guns. I mean, we got guns for our Christmas when we're like in sixth grade or fifth grade. But we always had dogs and stuff too. And that's a thing too. Our dogs would take off. They'd come back to our house and they'd be so beaten like one of them had his head came in, broken paw and stuff, and big old, you know, scratch marks in his head.

It could have been a bear, but, you know, we had bears all of the ranch, and I don't know. I just don't think it was a bear. They attacked, but on the ranch, you know, I don't think they messed with us. Yeah, you know, the other thing I was curious about, we talk about balls of light. People see these weird lights on the woods. On this ranch, this fur ranch you guys owned, did you guys ever see any weird lights in the woods? No. I would have to say no on that.

And yeah, we were out in woods a lot. I mean, we'd take our buddies out there with no flashlights, just to mess with them and ditch them. I mean, we spent a lot of time in them woods. I mean, alone, and we'd build tree forts and stay out there. And that was our sanctuary. Never seen an orb or nothing. Yeah, and I know that you guys are no longer on that ranch,

and it's been many years since you've seen one. If you had the opportunity, Would you want to see another one of these creatures? Yeah, I mean, I've gone back. I mean, I haven't come back there at night. No way now, but I've taken my phone out there and just left it. I mean, not to the spot where it camped. I still haven't been back to that spot.

I mean, I still haven't. But right above it, there's trails you can hike on and stuff. I've left my phone there overnight, tried to catch something, which is all blank and everything. And it was really eight hours of listening to it. But yeah, I still bring my kids out to the woods all the time just to hike and stuff, just hoping. I'm always looking for, you know, traces of it. It's a life-changing experience.

It's like it never goes off your mind, ever. Yeah, it's very life-changing, for sure, man. I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share what happened to you. Yeah, awesome. and thank you for having me. And that's it for tonight, everyone, remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email.

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