Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:899 Creature On The Farm

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

Tonight I will be speaking to Steve. Steve is from Kentucky and he had an encounter when he was 13. Steve and a friend decided to camp on the property when something large and stunk kept saying "Ike." I will also be speaking to Tristian is from from Missouri and he shot "something" on his property. Tristian said "The shoulders had to have been 5 feet across. It was on all four the whole time and it ran off screaming and roaring."   Steve has a podcast called "News Worthy??" check it out here: https://slindsey10822.podbean.com/

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. That shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moved like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chumtering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet but what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Jesus, get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a mouse there? Yes, I'm looking right here.

Uh-uh. Hi, this is Drew Plisket, and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show playing for you. We're going to be chatting with Steve, and Steve comes to us from Kentucky, and he grew up on a farm way out in the middle of nowhere and had a very strange encounter when he was out camping with a good friend of his.

We're also going to be chatting with Tristan, and Tristan comes to us from Missouri. He grew up on a 1,400-acre farm and ended up shooting this very strange creature. I'll kind of let him go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com, and if you get a chance, check out, Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional. shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Steve to the show. Steve, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Kind of nervous. Yeah, there's no reason to be nervous. And I know that you have a podcast, Steve, called Newsworthy, with two question marks. If you would, tell us a little bit about it.

Sure, sure. It's kind of different, we hope. Basically, it's myself and a co-house. host Jerry and we take we try to take every week two topics that are either getting way too much news coverage or way too little news coverage according to us anyway and we kind of talk about the the merits of the news article whatever it may be and we give it a thumbs up that it's getting enough or a thumbs down that it's getting too much and we just kind of talk about different things that you may not hear in the mainstream news all the time. And those topics range from politics to ghost to be extinction. So there's a whole gamut of the only caveat is we have to find at least one news article

about it to talk about it. So, you know, that's really it is. And we always encourage our listeners to send in something they want us to talk about. We're open to doing that too. So a lot of fun. Yeah, I hope everyone goes and checks it out. Newsworthy with two question marks, and I'll include a link underneath this episode. You had an encounter when you were pretty young, Steve out there in Kentucky.

How old were you when this happened? And if you would, just walk us into what happened. So this is why I'm nervous. Never told this story in public to anyone. So this, I was between the ages of 12 and 14. somewhere, I want to say 13-ish. And it didn't just happen to me. It also happened to my next-door neighbor, Tommy.

We were together. And basically, we were two dumb kids. And we lived out in the country, but not like, you know, a lot of stories involving Sasquatch involved being way out in the middle of nowhere. We were about five miles out of our little town. Big farm country, a lot of woods. So being 13, we were dumb. We wanted to camp out.

So this kind of, this experience encounter, if you will, kind of happened over a week's time. So the first night, we were just two dumb kids. We grabbed some sleeping bags. We found a flat spot. We went outside. We decided to sleep outside. And the night went pretty well. We woke up about 4.30 that morning just, of course, covered and soaked to the bone because of due.

You know, it had been a moist night. and we were completely wet. And the only thing odd about that night was that I remember was there was this putrid smell. Just, you know, we born and raised in the outside the country. So we know what skunk smell like. We know what, you know, most of what those smells that you would normally smell are. This was something different. And it was, the best way I can describe it, and people who live down in the South will probably know exactly what I'm talking about.

If in the summertime, a tractor makes a rut and it's deep enough, we have so much clay soil here that if it rains, that rut will hold water. And that water gets rancid. It's just disgusting. The mud is disgusting. And that's kind of what it smelled like. fast forward a few nights we had a great time so we decided we were going to go in halves and buy a little tent so we did and my little place where I lived was five acres it was a small home big yard and about a three and a half four acre yard or lot behind us that was clear we had a few cows back there it was on a hill

Tommy's family owned about 30 between 25 30 acres right beside that And then all around us behind that was a huge farm, multiple families, but all the multiple branches of the same family, big huge farm. So Tommy and I decided we was going to go back in his woods somewhere and camp out. We didn't. I bring this point up to bring up another point later. Nobody knew where we were going to be, including us. We just went walking back through the woods and then found a spot.

It was like, hey, that's where we're going to be. back then we didn't have cell phones we didn't have google or nothing like that and i lived with my elderly aunt and she is going to sound stupid but if she needed us when we were out in the woods she would either yell and if we didn't hear her she'd shoot a gun up in the end of the air we'd do it it was time to go home we knew it's time to that was the best way because out and you know we'd be any two boys in the middle of the country you know never know where you're going to be. So, anywho, we find a spot and we

put our tent up and it's in this row of like conifer trees, like pine trees. It was so stupid now that I think about it because we put the tent on a heel. So every time we got in our sleeping bags, they slid toward the bottom of the tent.

But we went to bed, chit-chatted, whatever. At some point, I have no idea what time I was. I don't want to watch. So at some point during the night, I get awakened by this sound. And it sounds like it's really far off, but it's constant. And it sounds to us like it's saying Ike, like I-K-E, like, you know, generalizing Howard Ike.

And it's way off. And I kind of nudged Tommy. And he's like, do you hear that? And I'm like, yeah, do you hear it? And he's like, yeah. And it kept getting closer and closer and closer to our tent to a certain. to a certain point that we didn't hear it anymore. We felt it.

It was like resonating through our chest. It was that loud. So being who we are, we had like a weed chopper, machete, whatever with this, but that's it. And we had a couple of flashlights. So we unzipped the zipper really quietly as best we could. And we jumped out of the tent with our flashlights. Retrospect, that probably wasn't the best idea if there was a bear or something out there. we looked around and there was nothing.

Not nothing. There was nothing. And we walked around. We walked probably 20, 30 yards in a big circle around the tent. Nothing. Not a squirrel. Nothing. We looked at each other.

I thought that was really weird. And we went back in the tent. And not 30 minutes later, it came back. Same deal. It was coming from the wood side, not where our houses were side. And it did the exact same thing. Started a little farther off. And the closer it got, the last, like, I wish I could better describe how it changed

from us hearing it to us feeling it. It was that, you know, how like bass is. Like when you're listening to a radio and it's got a lot of bass, it was kind of the same thing. You feel it more than you hear it. And we jump out again, nothing. So we leave the tent. We're out.

We bail. We run as fast as we can back to his dad's house, wake his dad up, you know, and his dad is like, what are you talking about? You're all, you're all dumb or whatever. So, but no one knew where we were. You know, at first we thought, well, maybe it's his dad messing with this. But his dad would have had to walk 30 acres in pitch black without us seeing, hearing, or anything. There's no way. And he was asleep when we ran up into the house.

my aunt obviously had no clue and couldn't have gotten to us if she wanted to. We thought that was really weird. And, you know, that smell was back. Every time we heard it and it got close to the tent, that smell. I just, like I can smell it right now. It's like, I don't want to, but I can smell it

because it just ingrains itself in you, I guess. So fast forward a few more days. Nothing really happened. We didn't camp out. we in fact we didn't go near the woods a few more days and every morning part of my job you know being the man of the house if you will because it was just me and my great aunt was to go out and I had to count the cows make sure none got out because the fencing wasn't very good and I had to feed them and a lot of times the the cow field was on a pretty good pretty significant slope so I could just hop on a fence post and see them and count them And that's usually what I did. So I did that. And immediately something called my eye down on the other side of our field, that big farm, they had a big tobacco barn down there.

And behind it was an old pond. It was very shallow, but it always held water. And there was a tree beside it. Well, standing between the tree and the barn was it. was this and by standing, I mean, on two legs, looking directly at me. Huge. I just, I wish I had a better perspective because it was, you know, we're talking 150 yards probably, but huge.

And as soon as I look at it, it growls. It like grunts at me. And it was like, I felt like it was very angry. In fact, what it did was it had its arm. up on that tree and it just swiped the tree. It knocked an entire branch off of the tree when it did that. And then it grunted again and turned around and walked away. Freaked me out. So I'll run in the house. I'm scared to death. I run down as soon as I feel like it's safe. I run down to Tommy because Tommy's dad, Larry, I was like, you guys got to come see this. This is crazy, crazy, you know.

And of course, Larry thinks that Tommy and I are idiots and nuts for bringing the us up. But he agrees to go down. We go down to the barn where there was, to the tree. Now, Tommy, Tommy's dad was like 5-11, and he put his arm all the way up, and he was still about a foot and a half short of where that branch was on his tippy toes. So I don't, you'd probably be better at guessing the height than me, but most people's arms are two and a half, three feet long. So eight foot, nine foot and that was it. We didn't really, we went in the woods a few more times that, you know, after that, before the summer was over, we always felt like we were being watched, but we never smelled anything

again. We never seen anything. And, you know, again, we didn't have Facebook and all that back then. So we didn't really want to bring it up to the neighbors because the neighbors would thought he's crazy. But I just feel like there's probably more people that have had that experience out there, honestly. It's crazy.

Yeah, a lot of people don't want to come forward because they're afraid of being called crazy. I wanted to ask you, when you heard it saying Ike, did it sound human like? I don't know that it was, I don't know that it was actually saying Ike. It just sounded like Ike. The sound it was making, if I had to repeat it, that's what it would sound like. The funny thing is, after we talked, I called Tommy and told him, hey, I'm doing this show. And I just wanted to verify that I wasn't losing my mind or made up facts.

And he actually said that not his mom and dad had built a new house up on top of the hill. And the old house just went away. But his mom and dad always thought we were crazy. Always made fun of us for that. And then Tommy went to the Air Force. And they called Tommy about six months after he was. in and said, hey, just want you to know, we're never going to make fun of you again. We had the windows open the other night, and we heard it.

That blew me away. I didn't even know that until I talked to him just a couple of days ago. Yeah, it's kind of like confirmation. I did a show, I think it was episode 735. These guys were out there, and they heard ARC. It kept going, arc, arc, arc. And so jokingly, they went back and went, Ark, who goes there. and I think it threw a rock or a log or something at them.

I'm curious about that vocal. I wanted to ask you, when you saw it and I realized you're about 150 yards away from it, but it's looking in your direction. When it broke the branch and did the vocal, was that directed at you, do you think? Well, I was the only other than, unless it was really angry at a cow for some reason, how was the only thing around their breathing that I could see? You know, there was a few cows, but they had all went to the other side of the field down near the other pond. So he was on the right, they were all on the left, huddled.

You know, cows a lot of times will huddle up before a rain. It was kind of like that, except there was no rain. You know, I don't know if we were like in its spot, if we, when we went camping, if it was like, Because where we lived, we had a lean to where we kept feed for the cows. You know, we give them a scoop or whatever every day because our field was very small. So we had to supplement their feed. None of that was locked up. And I don't know if that was a source for them.

And we were, you know, they didn't like me being out there or what. But it never happened again after that. And I lived there for another year. I just, it was weird. Yeah, I know. it's kind of hard to say. The behavior, though, I hear a lot, this sort of behavior. And I think every eyewitness I've ever asked, has, you know, I'll say, do you think it was

directed at you? Every one of them says yes. And this, I mean, if I was in your position, I would feel like this was directed at me. When you saw it, did you think it was a man? What did you think it was when you were looking at this thing? The distance between the tree and the barn was wide. enough to drive a tractor through because they would drive the tractor back sometimes and fill up their water tanks out of that pond. And he took up half of that space. So there's no way that was a man.

No way. I had never seen or heard anything about Bigfoot or Sasquatch up into that point. So I started like Tommy and I went to the school library. As soon as school got back, and we were researching and we're like, oh, that's, that has to been it. I mean, there's, because there's, in, in Kentucky, we're just now getting a few black bears back. There were no bears back then. And obviously it was too big, too powerful to be a dude in a suit. He'd had to been on stilts. And I just, it was, yeah, I absolutely feel it was something that has yet to be found.

And I'm not afraid to say that I feel like it was definitely some sort of Sasquatch or big foot. I can't explain it any other way. Yeah, way too big to be a man. And, you know, at 150 yards and you're looking at it, it's taking up the space between the barn and the tree. You know, it's too big to be a man, too big to be a bear. I'm with you on it. And it's behavior of, you know, vocalizing, you know, throwing a tantrum, basically. You hear that a lot with these creatures.

I know we're going back many, many years and when he saw this saying, but you've had a lot of time to kind of stop and think about it. And I ask everyone on the show, Steve, and there's no wrong answer. What do you think Sasquatch is? I mean, to me, you know, I've heard a lot of people on your show say, well, I think it's, you know, apparitional or it's an alien or whatever. that to me was like a silverback gorilla on steroids. So I feel like it's an actual beast. I feel like it's an intelligent primate of some sort. My only fear and my only excitement saying that is that I don't, I would, a lot of times

you always ask, would you want to see it again? I would answer that, yes, with a camera from a good distance that was good enough that I don't have a grainy photo and I can, you know, say, hey, here's the proof. Because I feel like the time frame for disclosure is coming. Our world is so, it's getting smaller by the minute with field cameras and drones and everything's being videotaped. I think that I feel sorry for the first one we catch alive. Do you find it odd or strange that this hasn't come out yet, that we haven't been able to really catch up with this thing as far as the public knows? I do, and that's kind of what I meant.

I don't think his reign is hide-and-seek world champions going to last much longer, unfortunately. If they are smart enough to evade our best technology, then maybe there is another connection there. Sounds crazy even saying it. But if they're not using technology, then how do they recognize our technology? I think for me, one of the best sightings other than my own personal encounter

because I know what I saw. You know what I'm saying? I can only do my best to convince people of what I saw. but as far as video goes, and I'm sure you saw the video of the bird nest, and it was just the video was supposed to just, I guess it was an eagle's nest. It was high in a tree. And then it came down through the bottom. You know, that's how we're going to catch this.

That's how we're going to see it, I think. It's just going to miss the tech. But there's no doubt in my mind. It's a real breathing thing. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, it eats, it poops, it breaks branches, and does, you know, has to be something very physical. But there's a weird side to Sasquatch, too. That's really hard to figure out.

I mean, there's a lot of bizarre things that go on with people when they have encounters with these creatures. Did this change your life at all after seeing this creature? Yeah. Yeah. because before that, I've never heard of conspiracies or I never dug into all that. I was just a bumpkin from out the sticks, right? I've tried my absolute best to start learning about things that are out on the fringe a little bit. Because now that's like a super, you know, it's really focused me in on that stuff.

But it wasn't the other way around. It wasn't, and I only say that because, you know, a lot of times, when you start talking about some of the stuff that's going on in the world that not everybody has seen, not everybody believes. It's real quick to dismiss that person as, oh, a sensationalist. You heard this, so you made this. I didn't believe any of that. I didn't even know of that world until I saw this, until that encounter.

I feel like it gives me the ability to look at all this stuff very objectively. you know and for every real encounter sure somebody's driving past an interstate too fast and they see a broke tree that looks like something out of the corner of their eye and they count that as an encounter even though it's just a broke tree you know or a brush or a shrub or something odd a broke tree doesn't break other trees you know what I'm saying um it's kind of like the aliens for every 10 that's reported, there might be one that has some legitimacy to it. And that's kind of where I look at things anyway. I try to debunk them before I say, yep, that's what I believe.

That's what that is. Yeah, it really is an amazing account, Steve. And, you know, the last interaction that you had when he saw the creature, makes me wonder if the creature knew who you were. Yeah, or at least. And maybe that's part of them. Maybe they, you know, they have great sense of smell. And it smelled me around the farm.

I don't know. I just, I know what I saw. It's been with me for 35, 40 years at this point. And I just, it feels good actually finally bringing it out, just saying it. Yeah. And I hope people go out and check out your podcast, Steve. It's called Newsworthy for the audience has two question marks. And I'll throw a link underneath this episode, but I really appreciate you coming on and sharing what happened to you, Steve.

Thanks, man. I appreciate you. And we look forward to seeing everybody at Newsworthy. You know, we're live on Wednesdays, and it's published Wednesday night or early Thursday morning. So if you want to join us live, you can. I don't care to answer any questions on the podcast. So it's great. Newsworthy with two question marks.

Thanks again, Steve. Have a great day. Next up on the show, I want to welcome Tristan. Tristan, thanks for coming on. Thank you very much for having me. Your encounter actually took place in Missouri. I know that you guys said like 1,400 acres, which is huge. If you would, just kind of start from the very beginning.

What were you doing and what happened? Well, we lived in a very old farmhouse. My dad managed this large cattle ranch. So we didn't have, you know, like the big house, but we had a house. It was a two-story, probably 2,200 square foot house. If you're, you know, looking at it from the front door behind it, there was a six-acre lake that looked like a tadpole, you know, from a topographical view. It looked like a tadpole. Probably about 1,000 yards, maybe 1,400 yards to the east of it.

was a big irrigation lake that was 60 acres. And they used that to irrigate all of the crop land around there for the cattle. But if you're up on the second level of the house, you could see out with a spotting scope and you could see this six-acre lake and you could see if there was ducks on it or geese or whatever. and a teal season had just started here in Missouri. So it's like the second week of September at the time. I had a two, two and a half year old black lab with me. And it was time we're going to get some ducks.

So loaded up my Remington 1100. And the pond dam on the eastern side was pretty steep. So I thought if we could get around it and go up there, that we could, you know, sneak up on these because he would retrieve. And we could sneak up. And, you know, when they spooked, then I could probably shoot a couple of them, you know, when they started flying off. Well, most of the tail end of this lake was wooded. And every time that you went up there to go fishing, if you went around like the head, section of it you caught pretty good fish but the tail section of it was kind of

densely wooded for you know mid-Missouri there was always this ominous feeling like anytime you went up there and we brought people fishing too up around there and you went in the woods to the the tail end where the cove was everybody just said it just felt weird being in there. It was darker than it. You thought it should have been and they just, they felt weird coming out of there. And you'd get some pretty decent fish, but it just, you left there kind of feeling unwanted more than anything. Kind of a feeling of dread. So me and my dog, we go up, we pop up over the edge of the slum. like ducks, they flew off before we got to the top. And I wasn't going to take, you know, a long shot with shotgun.

So it's like, well, hell, we, you know, we struck out, Blake. That was the name of my dog. So let's, you know, go around the edge, see if we can scare up a squirrel or a rabbit or something. And as we're walking and you start getting into where the woods were, there was this very large thornbush. Size-wise, I'd say it was like comparable to like a Volkswagen Beetle with another Volkswagen Beetle parked up to its bumper and then one sitting on top of them. I mean, it was huge.

We have great big thornbushes here. My dog, he starts looking at it. And we're, I don't know, 20 feet away from it. And he had a little bit of pointer in him. And he goes, you know, head down, tail up. And I was, what's wrong, boy? And he looks at me and the house was, like I said, you know, a thousand yards or so away.

And he looks at me and he looks at the house, looks at me, looks at the house, looks at me, looks at the house. Looks at me, looks at the house. I said, what's going on, boy? You see something? He takes a few steps forward, and he starts to bear his teeth, and all the hair stands up on his back. And he starts right into this big rose bush.

Well, rose bush, thorn bush, whatever you want to call it. And he keeps edging forward and forward. I'm starting to feel like something's going on here, because he wouldn't act like that normally. well the week before I'd been out shooting a shotgun and I heard something kind of rattle in it well I took it apart found out that the plug that was in it Remington's they had this green plastic plug that restricts you to only three rounds instead of the full capacity so it was broken half

of why I don't know, but I ended up taking it out and then later on down the road I ended up finding replacement for it. This is free internet, so it was kind of hard to find. So I had five duck and goose loads in my shotgun, which I think were like number fours, number four goose load. I mean, it's not buckshot, but it's pretty potent up close.

Well, you keep inching closer to this thorn bush and I'm kind of following his pace and he's getting real close I'm talking two three feet of it and he's growling bearing his teeth and then he just shoots into it and I'm probably 10, 12 foot away from it when he darts in. Next thing I know he comes out ass over tea kettle. and falls over on his back, yelping, and he starts running towards the house. And I turn back around, and there's this, I'll call it a scream roar. It was, imagine the roar of the biggest grizzly bear you've ever heard,

mixed with the roar of the biggest, baddest lion you've ever heard. It was like that. And I felt it in my body like the sound waves hit me like the concussion of, you know, a firearm being very close. It was crazy. And it just stopped me in my tracks. And this whole thornbush started shaking, just going wild as this thing is scream roaring at me. And you said multiple times, you give a frightened man with a gun, someone's going to get shot.

and I already had the gun shouldered pointing at set area and I just aimed at the middle of what was shaking all this and I emptied it as fast as I could I mean just boom boom at the end of that firing string

this thing lets out just a scream like of pain the last thing I saw before I started running after my dog because I knew the gun was empty and I didn't have anything else on me. I didn't have any extra ammo or, you know, a pistol or anything. I saw a black gray figure huge.

I would say, you know, its shoulders had to have been four and a half foot wide. Running on all fours probably, I'd say three and a half foot off the ground, but running on all four and just like scream yelling, not roaring. Like it was in duress, you know, it was in pain, running through the trees. And there was quite a few small saplings there, you know, probably four, five inches around. And it's just snapping them as it's running. Well, my dog and I, we run back to the house. This is, I don't know, 2, 33 o'clock in the afternoon.

My dad's not going to get off work till at least 5.5.30. I go back, load the shotgun with buckshot this time. Wait for my dad to get home. My dad, he was a outfitter and guide. And he started when he was, he started outfit or guiding when he was 17, 18 in Colorado. This man is hunted Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, British Columbia, a couple different provinces in Canada. He's hunted in Mexico, Louisiana. He's hunted all over for all different types of gain.

He knows his stuff. He knows his guns. He knows how to kill things. He knows how to track things. So I'm waiting for him to get home to go show him what happens. to me. He gets home and the minute he gets in, I, I'm dad, something happened. I'm not sure what the heck it was, but you need to grab, you know, your big rifle and we need to go up there and you need to see what happened. Well, my dad, he's, he's a big skeptic for pretty much anything.

He says, okay, calm down, calm down, calm down. And I told him, please, yeah, I, I If you've ever believed me on anything, please, we have to go up there. So he takes his 338 mag. And, you know, I've got my loaded shotgun full of buckshot. And we go back up there. Dog, he wasn't leaving that house that day. He was not going anywhere. So we go up there.

We get out. I'm staying by the truck. And he parked really close to that thorn bush. he goes and he sees something he can clearly start to see where this thing went on top of the saplings that were broke over

so he's following it and I'm watching him and I'm very apprehensive like he might find something dead he might find you know whatever and he gets probably 60 70 yards into the woods

and he's squats down, and he's looking at something. All of a sudden, he perks up, turns left, turns right, and he's looking all around. He brings his rifle up, like he's ready to shoot. And he looks back down, he looks around an area. And then he starts backing out with his rifle rays, you know, like ready to shoot. And he keeps backing out, backing out, backing out, back. backing out. And he gets to the truck and he said, let's go home.

I said, Dad, what did you see? And he said, let's just go home. Well, come on, dad. What? Nothing. I didn't see anything. Nothing at all. Let's just go home. And he's visibly shaken. You know, veins popped out on his neck and his arms, wide-eyed. He's like, yeah, let's just go home. we go home, put the guns up, and he just goes about the rest of his day, like nothing ever happened. And he's never told me. I've tried numerous times over the years before he passed, and he would never tell me anything. There was times, you know, in my later 20s, early 30s, get him all drunked up, when we're out, you know, at the bar or something. or just, you know, at a campfire or something.

And he would just get up and walk off. He would never say anything about it. He would not acknowledge that it happened, anything. He wouldn't bring it up. I mean, he wouldn't say anything. He would just say, I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about and just walk off. Yeah, very strange.

It makes me wonder if, you know, him being a tracker and being an outfitter, If he saw the tracks, blood, you know, something. And it makes me wonder if he's run into it before. That's why he was so quiet about what he had seen, you know, not even talking to you even later in life. I wanted to ask you when the creature took off and it started crashing through the trees, how far away from you was it at the point? Because I know you're going, trying to get back to your dog. Well, it ran from the thornbush.

so that was probably another 10 feet so that was 20 feet so I probably saw it from 20 feet to about 30 yards as it was breaking stuff and squalling as it ran now another thing I'd like to bring up is until listening to your podcast and watching certain things online I had no idea what a tree structure was in these woods that were on the tail end of this lake that also they kind of branched off and then mended with a bigger area of woodlands that went down into the creek and where all the caves and stuff were I didn't know what a tree structure was I was a naive teenager

and just thought well that's really weird that you know all of these trees just kind of crassed crashed into this one other tree. But, you know, we have tornadoes around here quite a bit. We're in the, you know, tornado alley. You know, I had no idea. I was naive and thought, well, it's really weird that, you know,

three or four of these, you know, smaller trees just kind of made kind of like a teepee thing. It just like once I started hearing stuff about it, you know, it made sense. and seeing stacked rocks, I thought, well, it must have just been, you know, some bored person out here doing this. Because I lived on a very large area. And there was some other people that were allowed in there to hunt or fish or whatever. So I was like, oh, well, hell, somebody got bored and stacked some rocks up. Or somebody got bored and put some small trees together. Yeah, it's always fascinating.

And a lot of times eyewitnesses will look back at moments and weird things that have seen in the past and go, I wonder if that's what that was. At the time, though, you know, it's so weird seeing these teepee structures or, you know, other things around the property. A lot of people look back, you know, a lot of hunters will look back after an encounter and go, I wonder if that's what that was all those weird moments prior to seeing the creature. You know, I wanted to ask you, you guys, I don't know if you guys have bears out there in Missouri. or not, but five feet across in the shoulders, this thing's a wrong shape for a bear. We have very few bears.

Department of Conservation says we don't have them. They said we haven't had mountain lions since before I was born, and I've seen five of them. And they said we didn't have bears, and then the next town over a year ago, we had one walking down Main Street that was lost. And, I mean, he was juvenile. So he was just like lost and had no idea what was going on. And they ended up having to trank him and do things. But yeah, they say we don't have bears. We don't have mountain lions.

So I think pretty much every state's Department of Natural Resources or fishing game, they lie about so much stuff. So if they're lying about mountain lions and bears, they're lying about bigger stuff too. Yeah, I agree. And they do that in a lot of different. different states. I wanted to ask you, you know, when you're growing up on this property, 1,400 acres is so huge. And I know you're a country boy, you're out there and you hear

the normal wildlife, but was there ever a moment where you heard a vocalization and you thought, what in the world is that? I don't think I've heard vocalizations. I've definitely heard tree knocks because I just thought, well, that's weird, you know, a limb fell against another tree. It happened a couple times. I was like, well, it's just, you know, you're naive. You don't know. Maybe somebody was trying to chop something and they didn't get very far in and decided their axe was gone. Because that's all that you have to go off.

You don't have, you know, a preconceived notion of, oh, well, it's this. You know, it's so your mind kind of just as like trying to figure it out and the, you know, Occam's razor, the easiest thing is what it is. You know, oh, it's not a bigfoot slamming, you know, a giant limb into a tree to communicate with something else. It's something happened. And, you know, all of this is all speculation on my part. God, I'd love to sit down with your dad. I know he's gone, rest in peace.

But I would love to know what he saw that day, whether it was Prince or blood or what. because you know the creature was long gone. On that, I couldn't tell you because he'd been in, you know, national forests and he'd been on places that he leased in, you know, numerous Northwest states and Canada. And, you know, he'd been around and been guiding and hunting most of his life. But he would never talk on anything that was supernatural or that he couldn't easily explain, he would never talk about anything like that.

It was just like, well, bottled that up, don't talk about it. And that's just how he was. Let me ask you, after having this experience and kind of looking into this subject, and I know you'll be first to say, you know, you don't really know what it was that you saw. But can I ask you after looking into this, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's kind of your opinion? I think it's a living being probably on the primate scale. I mean, we're on the primate scale, right?

So I think it's just like a bigger, hairier us. They have a language, for sure. They can construct things like, you know, nests and the tree structures. I've heard where people say, you know, it could be supernatural because of, you know, the lights and them disappearing very quickly. I mean, they're flesh and blood. They do bleed. I've heard enough encounters that they do bleed. Why we haven't found one yet.

Well, what was it last year or the year before the government finally said, yeah, there's, UFOs out there. They didn't go out and say, you know, it's aliens, but there's something else out there. I think probably the biggest reason that maybe, you know, Bigfoot Dog Man, any of those type of things, hasn't really come up. And the lexicon is probably the forest industry more than anything because, you know, destroying the habitat now if, you know, there's a, you know, a weird shrew or something in some place, You can't make a dam or housing development or something.

So I think that they're probably known enough by the government. For all intense purposes, they probably have, you know, a dozen of them or so. But I think it would probably wreck forest industry, you know, zoning permits, you know, a town building outward into, you know, if you got a town, them that, you know, started small, grew up and grew and grew and grew, and now you're pushing out into, you know, a forest or something, that would probably be a reason, you know, because they have to do studies and all types of things before something can be done. Well, if they find something that is pretty much unexplainable, well, you can't just go out there and say, well,

we found something weird so you can't build this. Or you can't log in this. area. So I think that's probably the biggest reason why, you know, that they're not mainstream or that more people know about them. But I think they're flesh and blood, probably some type of primate. I mean, they've got five fingers, five toes. They, you know, stand upright. They've got, you know, the teeth in the way that primates have. So that that's what I believe. Yeah, and I think that's a fair answer for sure. Have you ever been back to this property? Since then, it's been developed.

There's a housing community very close to it, and you can drive by it, and the wood still look kind of sketchy. But the pond's still there. The big lake that leads off into the creek and stuff, that's all still there. but there's also been a very big hog farm placed in there in the last probably seven years. So I think, you know, it's changed and might have pushed whatever was in that area, you know, probably out because, you know, industry and housing and stuff has been implanted into that area. But as of now, I only live about six miles from it, seven miles from it. Yeah, you live really close by. You know, I know it's nerve-wracking to come on and share an encounter,

but I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share what happened to you, Tristan. I know it's going back many years, and I appreciate your time. I really enjoyed chatting with you. Well, thanks for having me, name. I really appreciate it, Wes. And that's it for tonight. everyone remember if you've had an encounter shoot me an email. My email address is

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