Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:9 A look back at 2013 in the Bigfoot world

Episode Date: December 30, 2013

In this episode we take a look back at the some of the things that have happened in the bigfoot world in 2013. Join us as we will be discussing Bigfoot encounters and Bigfoot stories. Wes, Woody and Will will also be discussing Sasquatch behavior and encounters. As always we will be playing some of our favorite Sasquatch encounters.

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What's going on now, sir?

That's sort of a bitch is about six foot and nine. Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-oh. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. Now, I know last week a lot of people were asking,

I had mentioned the comment of the Sasquatch Canada, the guy that got them burping the alphabet, saying his name, Mike and Flower. And a lot of people were asking me, I've gotten a lot of emails from people asking me what I was referring to and where they can find the audio and I sent you both Woody and Will, I sent you guys a copy of the audio.

So I thought I'd play it on the show and get your guys' feedback on it, since I just kind of mentioned it last week, I didn't really get a chance to play it in between my tangents. That's a good idea with it. All right, so I'll play the... This is Sasquatch Ontario.

Man, where's my Muppet music when I need it? But I'll play this for you guys. Tell me what guys think of this. As with previous visits, what this involves is another step forward and our first direct back and forth communication at this level. This is the first time that Nefatia, he's spoken with a direct response. The last two visits has shown some extremely exciting progress.

We've learned that each visit brings more insight as they allow us a small step forward and more insight into their world. While it doesn't always come out as intended, it's a very surreal feeling when you're standing there, speaking directly with a Sasquatch. We're learning as we go, and this is unknown territory. It's an extremely unique situation.

It's an incredible end to a year of activity that has grown with each visit. And we hope the next year continues at this rate. Nephtia, how you doing, buddy? Nephtia, can you please tell me? Nettah Wu? Nettahu? Neta Wu? Netsaqa Wu.

That's a good word. I'm here, buddy. Thank you, my friend. Shit, that was painful. I have other things to get to you, but you guys just want to rip on this for the next hour? You know, I've never come across the bigger... Yeah, that's pretty bad. I mean, do they really think...

I felt like I was watching Star Wars all over again. I think it was like Chubaka. I don't know if that was Chubach or maybe Jabba the Hut from Star Wars. I don't know. That was absolutely ridiculous. And it's obviously a person's voice. It almost sounded like the same got-doing, like a voiceover with, it almost sounded like the same voice for both of them. Oh, you know, it could be.

That's what it sounds like, I don't know. I thought about going out in the woods, and I could play the part of Sasquatch Ontario, and Woody could play the part of the Bigfoot, and, you know, would he could get hammered? And then we could do a reenactment, just like Finding Bigfoot, do a reenactment of this. You know, we had a term for talk like that. We called it beer gibberish. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Are they really, people, are they really buying that?

I mean, are they buying this thing? Have you guys heard of any, like, feedback as far as this supposed to be a joke or what? I wondered that myself. I mean, how many people buy into something like that? I don't know if there's any. And there's those kind of people are the ones, you know, when the subject is kept on the fringe, those people ought to be ashamed of themselves. Now, I don't even know where to begin with that.

Yeah, they all got leprechaun powers. Yeah, leprechaun powers. Yeah, it goes beyond just this guy I've heard him in interviews talking. And the one thing that really burns me is the last interview I heard him talk on. He said that, you know, he's putting this audio out to bring awareness to the Sasquatch. And they're asking him why he never gets one on video. And he says, well, you know, it's impossible to get them on video. But he's putting this audio out so that.

People don't. He's tired of hearing of people wanting to shoot them. But if you can't get them on video, then why are you worried about someone shooting them? It's my question. And, you know, that's not, yeah, everybody's been so against shooting one for, you know, I'd be publicly if you go out and say the truth. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to think about that. No, I was just going to say, you know, it's too convenient to say, well, you know, I can't get one on video, but look, I've got these sounds. You know, you can, you can make those sounds. And, of course, you can go on for the people who claim habitual.

Well, we have these, you know, this group of creatures. We're friendly with them. We talk to them, you know, on and on and on. But really, you know, I just don't buy it. Yeah, it's a tough one to swallow. This guy puts out a lot of videos. He sure claims a lot, but the proof that he's applied... I didn't mean to interrupt you, but it's been killing me.

You know, he says that he can't get one on video, but it sounds like he's sitting in Sasquatch's lap while he's having a conversation with one. I don't, you know. And maybe he is, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a hard one to swallow. I think if we had a Sasquatch Chronicle hoax of the year, you know,

maybe get this guy like Capri's psych evaluation on us. It would go to this guy. I would say we retire, but he's already... What ticks me off about guys like that as I've spent, you know, more than four decades out hunting for these things and really spent a lot of time, a lot of equipment, I couldn't even begin to tell you how many... And some fool like this comes out and pretty much because he makes the sudden.

That's got to burn your ass a little bit, Will, you know? You know, guys like that do. They really, you know, I'm pretty, you know, somebody like that. They make all the work that I've done look foolish because that's what the media focuses on. And I think the media ought to be chastised, the ones that pay attention to that. And the people who are on the fence, you know, whether they're not sure if they exist or not, they hear stuff like this and they're like, this is a joke. Yeah, exactly.

When there's so much really great information out there, you know, collected for so long, and it only takes one piece of garbage, you know, subject where nobody wants to pay any attention to it. Yeah, that's what I was saying. You know, he had one that they were like burping the alphabet, and I was just like, really? And then he put this one out, and he claims there's orbs. These orbs show up every time Bigfoot shows up. Someone already shot that down, and so they're not orbs. It's snowflakes coming down, and then when he snaps a picture,

Flash, you know, creates that... Right, the lot light bounces back off the snowflake. I mean, just listening to this guy, he's real shady with his answers when people asking questions about anything regarding this site or this habituation site. I mean, he's just really, really shady about his answers on anything. He tries to be real, you know, he'll talk all day long about how wrong it is to shoot one and this is why he's doing it. But when it comes down to any sort of details or getting down to

anything regarding this situation. He's real shady on his answers. And it just screams hoax to me. The whole thing just screams hoax to me. Yeah, no, I have no doubt that it's hoax. It's even a bad hoax is a thing. Yeah, exactly. It's not

even a good hoax. It's a pretty bad one. Trying to figure out why someone would do that. You know, there's been a lot of hoaxes in 2013. I mean, I could probably name ten off the top of my head, but I just don't understand. understand the mentality, the mindset of wanting to do a hoax, you know, of wanting to put something out there that you know is BS, and eventually people will find out it's BS. I just don't get it. But, you know, it's all about attention. It's not about hoax or being found out. You know, they get the attention and even negative attention, you know, depending on what that person thrives on their stress loss, negative feedback, you know, as well.

Yeah. Speaking of hoaxes is what do you guys. think of, looking back in 2013, what did you think of the Melba Catcham's DNA study? There's 113 usable. Where do we start? Yeah. What do you guys both think about that? You know there was over a half a million dollars spent on that, too, by the way? I'm not surprised.

Before we would go into any kind of detail, it's probably not a bad idea, but in this subject, all these people, it's almost like a sideshow. bottom line is well let me back up a little and it didn't you know before that and DNA is just in that area about and one of the things you'll hear people jump on the bandwagon all the time hair sample is is tested and each of they make the bridge to bigfoot and he told me he says when it's unknown it's unknown we don't know what it is it's not you know it doesn't match anything have to take samples off unknown sample chemicals test them while you have bigfoot that's the first problem all these samples were sent in. There's no way to prove them because none of them was actually, that's the first

problem. The thing with Melba that kind of spur me off was, even before got to the, all of, to that point, her story on what Bigfoot actually was kept changing. I was like, okay, you're losing me, Melba. She's losing me. And then she went to where it's a, God, I can't think of what it was, what she said it was, a lemur. She said it was a lemur. and then she said it was you know possibly angelic so there's possibly angelic

roots to the DNA study and it just kept changing and changing and like you said well when she got into hey I was mentally raped by Bigfoot she just lost me there I mean it had nothing her DNA study could have been

right on but the whole circus that evolved around her and around all of the stories that were leaked from her her, then her story kept changing. I mean, her DNA study kind of became irrelevant at that point, just because she just kept saying one crazy thing after another. You know, Wes, I think you kind of hit it, too.

I think the most important thing, the biggest point that both you guys brought out is what Wes said. It was a biggest circus. And the problem is with that it gives people like Will that have been in this for four decades a bad name when they've taken something like this serious. And here again, we have somebody saying they've been raped by, mentally raped by big foot.

There was so many holes in her story. And there's a lot of wasted money. Think if someone gave us $500,000 what we could do with it. You know what I mean, guys? Yeah, we'd go out and prove they were real. We would go out, yeah, we would go out and do something with it. That's the saddest part of the whole thing. It was a circus and a big, fat F, as far as I'm concerned.

I wish someone would give us some money, but let's go prove it, you know? And, you know, it's funny. Every time something like this has come along and probably last, last 30 years. I started out watching to end in and green do this whenever somebody would claim.

It was always knowing that it could be anything. And, you know, early 70, but they were able to identify it beyond that. You know,

I think she was just borrowing, you know, because, you know, she, I think, embellishes light. As a side note,

we'll just, you know, less, I told you the other day, I actually was in contact with Melbaugh a little bit on Facebook and she declined

an interview. Imagine that. You know, I offered my services to help her last year. Okay with that. She was going to because I would have blown. I would agree with that. You know, and the other thing with 2013 is, and I don't want to even give him that much air time, but Rick Dyer, you know, I hope in 2015 when people, when he comes out and says,

hey, I shut another Bigfoot, I hope people look back at 2008, 2008, 2013, and see what this guy's doing. I mean, this guy's made his living off of doing this. and I know the Bigfoot community kind of has a short-term memory, but I hope they stop and look. I think the community itself's getting better with hoaxes. It seems like I know with the last couple that have come out, it seems like the community calls them out pretty quick on it, you know, and that's something new that I haven't seen before in the short amount of time I've been involved.

I think people are getting fed up with all the BS. It's even like, you know, the groups that are out there. That's what people want. I think that's one reason, you know, we don't. And people, in my experience, that's what they want. They don't want to be, you know, they're a little turned off. Yeah, you know, he's one. Now, he was involved in the Georgia hoax, wasn't he, with the Bigfoot?

Yeah, with Tom's Hardy. Yeah. So, you know, he's a candidate for the hoax of the year award, too. I will say, though, I think part of it is, too, that people are becoming more apt to say what their thoughts are. I don't think the whole Rick Dyer thing is going to happen again or anything like it, without someone coming out and saying, hey, you're full of baloney. You know, it's more acceptable today. It seems like for, you know, Bigfoot is a real thing.

You know, it is a real creature. And I think it's more acceptable to come out and speak your mind and give your opinion on that. So I don't think this whole crap that's like this Rick Dyer thing will happen again for anything like it. Well, I'm sure it will, but there's more people out there today that have a better opinion of saying you're full of crap. Yeah, you know, and I applaud those people. people, everybody should come out. If they think something is crap, the old days, when the old timers were in charge of all this stuff, you know, DeHinden Green, you know, identical, but he'd do the same thing.

So, you know, it used to be, they would call, you know, got, you know, all. Yeah, it is, and we need more of it. Did you see that, I was going to send it to you, Will, I haven't got a chance to send it to you or Woody. But this recent flooding in Alberta, Canada exposed a kind of a rotting carcass. And this paleontologist, Bally Johnson, he did a preliminary site examination of this carcass that was exposed due to this flooding. And he says it's giganticithous. Interesting. Well, I'll throw it up on Facebook.

You see what happens with that. Yeah, I'm kind of curious if that anything comes of that, you know, in 2014. You know, he's coming out saying that this is gigantipithecus, that, you know, all the cryptic guys. are saying it's Bigfoot, but he's coming out saying, no, it's ancient, it's giganticopithecus. Who knows what it could be, but I thought it was kind of interesting. You know, due to the flooding, it washed this body out,

and now they're examining. Yeah, what's interesting, too, is if it is a gigantic antipithecus, those were a Southeast Asia giant hominid, so there wasn't, it hadn't been out, would be very interesting, you know, related to them. Can't wait. Can't wait to find out what it is.

No, I was just going to say, I just, you know, if that does prove out to be a gigantic, a little more credibility to our subject. Yeah, it does. It does bring a lot of credibility. I don't know why this isn't making front-page news anywhere. Yeah, that's weird, isn't it? I mean, that ought to be big.

There might be a reason. Yeah, you would think that would be big news. Did they say that, did they, Ann, Wes, you showed me the article, but I didn't get a chance following through it. What was your reason for thinking it was a giganticophisticist? What did they, what made them make that decision? It was a paleontologist that was on the site, kind of reviewing the site and doing the preliminary excavation on it and examining the body and really going through trying to, you know, creating a, trying to figure out what this thing was.

And he's the one that came to the conclusion that this is gigantic Pythus. It's one sitting in the Canadian Rockies. You know, that should be huge. I mean, there's only been four jaws found in a few dozen teeth. It's got to be in Canada. Yeah. That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

But I threw the link up on Facebook if people want to review it. You know, I came across an article to one of the stories I found fascinating for 2013. Was this guy, I don't know if you guys heard about it, this guy out in Nevada had a trailer, and he wanted to live off-grid in his trailer, a place to go to where he can kind of get away from everything. And you know those trailers, they put on the... AXA trucks. I forget what they're called. But it's the actual trailer.

It sits in the bed. It's a huge mobile trailer that you can actually sit in. Yeah. He had one of those sitting out in the middle of this plot of land that he bought in the middle of nowhere. And he came back, had it all set up, came back two days later, and the whole trailer had been tipped over on its top. Good Lord. And he couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. So it took four guys to actually put it back upright,

and they put it back up right. And he was examining the area. He saw footprints that day, but, you know, he didn't really think about Bigfoot. He's not a Bigfoot believer. And it came back a week later, and it was tipped upside down again on its top. He couldn't figure out why or who, why someone would come and actually tip his trailer upside down because it's literally in the middle of nowhere. And he ended up setting up cameras.

And so I'm kind of curious to see if he catches something or someone tipping it upside down. But it made me think of one of my most favorite encounters. I wanted to play one of them for you guys. This happened off of Ape Island. And it's a guy sitting in his trailer, and a Sasquot starts chipping his trailer in the middle of the night. Take a listen to this. Tell me what guys think of this. I thought it was a myth, sir, I had no belief in any of that at all.

That night made me a believer. For outdoorsman Ted's story, myth became reality after a violent encounter one night while sleeping in his motorhome in the middle of Vancouver Island. All of a sudden, the motorhome shook violently about, it listed 30 degrees or so. I would anticipate that the tires just about came off the ground. Startled, Ted realized something very large worth rocking the motor home, and it was standing right outside the window. I can see the spectrum of this creature, and it was standing on two legs for sure, and it had two upper limbs, and it was extremely hairy. Ted jumped to his feet and ran outside without thinking.

The smell in the air was a very stenchy, strong, almost dead fish, but musky. It was very, very prominent. through the tree line where the firelight had stopped. So basically it was where I was looking into blackness and I'm lit up. That's when I could hear the footsteps of this creature stop as it knew I was there. Very still and very quiet and very eerie, knowing that something's right there or somewhere close by looking at me. Then I thought about how crazy I was after I'd gotten out. I was like, I have no way to defend myself.

Ted retreated inside the mobile home without seeing a little without seeing the creature again. The experience left him shaken. I'll never camp there again unless I'm in a motorhome. I will never sleep in a tent in Strathcona Park as long as I live. It's interesting. The guy in Nevada, a researcher came out, and he was speculated that possibly Sasquatch had tipped over his motorhome

or, you know, trailer trying to get to the grubs and the insects underneath. But listen to that encounter. You wonder what, why, you know, You wonder about the behavior. Why would it do something like that? You know, it kind of reminds me of Rebecca Boutello's story. And I've investigated a couple of incidents out north of... So they seem to do that.

You know, it's a little... Yeah, you're right. It does remind me of the encounter out in Colorado and Rebecca Batello's. You wonder if maybe the Sasquatch is trying to get some entertainment, having the guy run out? You know, I mean, why do that? You know what I mean? That's kind of...

That's what I was thinking is it... Well, my first question... question was, is it a curiosity thing? But then, Will, you had said, just a few seconds ago, you said, why would a Sasquatch expend so much energy unless it was for a meal? Right. You know, Sasquatch is very, I would say, a very lean for a reason. It's not, you know, it's not to go after a handful of grubs. That's not going to sustain. I mean, it wouldn't make any sense, no animal. Yeah, it made me think that maybe they're breaking it, maybe it was rocking it to see if someone was in there.

if not, maybe go bust into it. Yeah, maybe they're checking the reaction of the people. You know, what they're going to do is something I can attack, is it going to, you know, flee from me. There's a lot that goes on at that Vancouver Island. They call Ape Island. But I have another encounter for you guys from that island regarding fishermen. But I wanted to play this other one from Alaska.

What I found kind of fascinating about this, you know, we talk about people's behavior and we talk about Sasquatch's behavior. but as you listen to this next encounter, kind of listen to the behavior of the grizzly bear. My name is Thomas Fisher and I've seen Sasquatch. Fish salmon fruit. Thomas Fisher has a front row seat to the edge of Wild Alaska. Southeast Alaska. Fisher anchors his boat.

He is done for the day. We anchored up for the evening. On a beach close by, Alaska's most ferocious predator is hunting. And we were watching a big grizzly bear on the beach about 100 yards away. And the bear had been there for a long time and he wasn't afraid of us or nothing. Monster. Thomas keeps a wary eye on the massive beast from the safety of the boat. The bear was huge.

I saw him a couple times before. I'd say the bear was at least 11 feet. Thomas watches the grizzly for over 10 minutes when all of a sudden, The bear's behavior changes. Bear freezes, seeming to sense danger. One of the world's most feared predators does something rarely seem. I think something really scared this bear. You know, he and me, it was flat moving when you get the brush.

He would just go on. Never seen a bear act like that before. What could make Alaska's alpha predator turn and run? This black object come out, which I thought of first was a bear. But it wasn't. It was walking on two lakes like a man. Grizzly, this predator is not afraid of Thomas. And I walked about 50 yards out and just stood there and looked at us for about 15 seconds.

Thomas is now face to face with a creature he has never seen despite his 45 years in Alaska. It wasn't a bear because a bear cannot walk or run standing up. I knew it wasn't a bear. He said, it looked just like a man, only I had hair. There's a lot of difference between looking at a man and a bear. You know, and this thing had all the pieces of a man only, it was all hair. And it was huge. It was at least nine foot tall.

The encounter is brief. There was a big foot, just as plain as day. And he stood there probably 15 seconds, and then he ran about 100 yards. about 100 yards into the timber. He did it so fast. It was just amazing. My deck hand looked at me and I looked at him.

We said, what the heck did we just see? And we said, a big foot. And all over with my deck hand said, well, I'm not telling anybody. To this day, Fisher's deckhand will not speak about what he saw. But the old fisherman is very clear about the events of that evening. Definitely saw, saw squat. and I'll stick by that till the day I die. And nobody will ever change my mind.

Most people don't understand. Grizzly bears don't run. It's hard to start a little of grizzly bear. Yeah, I've always loved that story. That's kind of on the same topic, but maybe a little bit off topic. But, well, did you ever see that interview less drought in Alaska? He was on the Joe Rubin Show. Apparently he came across a couple of Sasquatches in Alaska.

I didn't know if you heard of that or not, but it was a pretty good interview. Maybe one of these times we'll play it on the show. Yeah, no, I'm not familiar with that one. Yeah, it made me think of our encounter. You know, remember Woody I was saying how it was dead silent? There was no forest noises. There was no nothing.

I guess you can kind of see why after listening to that encounter, having the grizzly bear tick off running. Yeah, everything is quiet. And like you said, you know, or actually, I believe it was the fisherman that said it, it was the alpha, he's like the alpha omega of Alaska. So he really shouldn't be, you know, scared of anything. But apparently there's, there's always someone bigger and badder than you are. And you know, it's interesting, bear behavior.

I am pretty close. We came with inches. It was just what scared that bear. Yeah, that's the, I mean, that's the first thing I thought up to when I heard that guy's encounter. And there's another one from Alaska. I didn't get a chance to load up and queue up for the show. I thought about loading up that less-strod one that you're talking about, Woody. But I didn't get a chance to that.

a pretty good one. Yeah, I thought it was a pretty good one. For those outside of the He's the survivor man. He does all the, goes out in the woods apparently, or no, it's different parts of the world, different countries, and survives all with nothing but pretty much a, usually a knife and himself and some cameras, and somehow always makes it home. So for somebody with this caliber that has seen different parts of the world, been in the middle of nowhere to actually be scared for his life, which has probably seen many grizzly bears, but one of the biggest things that's ever scared him the most was a Sasquatch encounter. So it's a pretty good interview.

If you get a chance, Will, you should check it out. Yeah, I will. That sounds interesting. And I know James, a listener sent us at email with the question about, you know, if a lot of the pot growers out there come across Sasquatch. And I think it's a good question. I mean, I bet a lot of those guys do have stories. But I highly doubt they'll come out and say, you know, they had an encounter based on what they're doing.

They wouldn't want a bunch of Bigfoot hunters or pot fields. Yeah. Yeah. I'm willing to bet a lot of those guys haven't had encounters, though, you know. I would think so, yeah. I mean, if they're, you know, pretty remote areas. We should try and get one of your show. I used to, yeah, it'd be nice.

Somebody, you know, they could call in. And that's something I always tell with. Even if you're a drug lord, you can come on the show, nameless. It would be an interesting angle, you know. I mean, yeah, we could, sure, we'll, the product of their product. Credibility, credibility. Exactly. Right.

Not in your own stock, we might buy it, but. Yeah. Cause and effect. That's what we call it. Yeah. No, the last encounter I want to play for you guys is it made me think the last one is from Ape Island, and it's a fisherman talking about their encounters on seeing one. And it made me think, you know, this might be a good way to kind of look for Bigfoot

from a boat pulling into some of these inlands at night. You might come across. I mean, if you think it's an area to where they would be, it might be a good way to actually get them on film. Well, you know, Bob Fitness had his sighting that way. Oh, did he? He did, yeah, and it was Vancouver Island. Yeah, I know Woody's getting up in age and he's kind of getting out of shape.

So, I mean, this might be a good way for us to go out and look for Bigfoot. I'll take you any day, brother. Well, listen to this last one, guys. Tell me what you guys think of this one. The crew of this fishing boat was traveling along the isolated eastern coast of the island. A few of us decided to go to Village Island and, you know, fish for crab and prawns and that. It was cooking crab out on the back deck. Yeah, I'm just having fun.

Then they noticed something very unusual. That particular day. in previous days before that there was bears there was birds there's all kinds of but never really thought too much about it as soon as he got into that day the wind was blowing and the smell that came out was phenomenal i've never smelled anything like it in my life when darkness fell the source of the smell suddenly appeared on the shoreline went up on top of the bridge of the same boat the point it was crouched down and it was hiding from the spotlight.

And these big, long, elongated red eyes, you know, there's no denying that. There's probably nine or ten feet tall. And weight, I don't know, probably 400 pounds. They watched the massive creature for almost an hour from the safety of their boat. It's kind of an eerie feeling. I'm avid hunter.

I've seen bear. I've seen cougar. You know, I know for sure. It was not a bear. One of the fishermen had his gun nearby, but he was not tempted to take a shot. Whatever, that within seven years you would die. There's no way.

I mean, once I realized what it was, I would never... ...and the moon come up and then as he walked around into the bay. It took his time and then he crouched down and grabbed some cockles and he could hear him, break him open and then start... Suddenly, the creature disappeared from you. It took him three starts, strides to do like 30 yards. You know one thing I thought was kind of cool, Wes, is if you guys remember the interview with Brenda Harris, she had brought up the point if you shoot a Sasquatch within seven years you die. And I think that's, isn't that an old like Native American thing or something?

It depends on what Indians you're talking about. You know, it could be anything even, you're not even supposed to. And so, you know, again, it goes back to, you know, what extent. But, yeah, that is. And then I also enjoyed how they explained how fast it moved. You know, within, I think, what you say, within 30 yards, within three steps, it moved approximately 30 yards. And for anybody that's actually seen a big foot,

I know that's probably pretty close to what, and of course, the one that we saw jump across the road was probably a total of 30 feet, and I did it one step. But for anybody that's seen a big foot, that's, you know, they do move like that. They're very quick. very quick yeah you're you're never going to outrun one so we drove down there with his

and this was after dark so we had a we didn't see anything we were talking quietly we thought well maybe we'll see something you know we were young 18 so we didn't told john and I said well you know just once in a while we'll stop the car started and they can't get the keys in it and we finally get the car and of course john's brothers I was like beating on the car screaming and crying

you know three feet and John remembered he had to stop him with his brother and you're saying it didn't take off it just took it moved to a different area and Kind of sat there? Yeah, it ran from our right to our left, and then it stopped. And that was the holy crap moment. It was like, okay, it stopped. Now what's it going to do?

If it would have kept running, you know, we would have been okay with that. But it stopped, and we figured, uh-oh, you know, it's going to turn around and come back. Woody and I were talking earlier. And we're always trying to improve the show, always trying to make it more interesting for people to listen to. And one of the ideas I had for an upcoming show, what would be kind of a cool idea, is if we actually did our show from a habituation site, have me and what do you go out there? Interesting idea.

Yeah, I mean, how cool would that be? I don't know if anyone out there has a habituation site. You can shoot us an email at Bigfoot hotspot at gmail.com. But hopefully in Washington State. But that would be kind of cool to shoot, actually do a show from a habituation site, and so we could talk about what's going on. And, I mean, you imagine doing a show from Yacolte,

the Yackel Mountain back in the 89. How cool it would have been something, huh? Yeah, that would be something. I don't know. Five on scene, right? But I know we got a lot. Do we have to get a tank or anything to get you out there again, West?

Do we need some armored vehicles? No, I'm good to go. You're all right. You might want to hit the treadmill before we go just to get you back. to run out. Yeah, you might need a hug or something before we get out there to make sure it's just taking a hug before we go.

Just bring somebody that slower. You only have to outrun one person. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's an excellent idea. And, you know, even if anybody out there has any ideas for certain things, feel free to shoot us at Facebook, give us a message. And, you know, we're always open to ideas and new suggestions.

So that'd be great. Yeah, I appreciate all the love of being on Facebook. I think in the last, like, 24 hours we've had, like, 100 likes on our Facebook page. So thank you to everyone out there who have got some awesome listeners. Yeah, people listen. I appreciate it. So we really do appreciate that. But I don't know if I have too much more for you guys.

I almost didn't, wasn't even going to do a show. I know, Will, you've been sick. I've been sick. And it's coming up on the end of the year. And I almost just said, well, let's just do a show after the beginning of the first of the year. but I figure we'd throw something together for our listeners just because we've gotten so much love from everyone out there, didn't want to leave everyone hanging.

Yeah, exactly. No, people really appreciate them. I mean, I've seen the emails about how people want the show to be longer or more often. I thought about maybe we should do a show on the burial sites that you're talking about, well, describing the burial sites and why you think that's not a bad idea. We could do that. And I think that's a topic that a lot of people don't think, either. You know what I mean? I think there's...

Most people don't know about it. Yeah, so I guess that's what I'm trying to say. You know, I didn't really know much about it until, you know, talking to you. And I never thought about it until, you know, because Renee put me years, even the last, even then, it didn't dawn. I thought, you know, because I don't have a guarantee until we dig a couple of months, but, you know. Yeah, I think on our next show, we should discuss Sasquatch burial sites. And if anyone out there has had an encounter where they have a, uh, habituation site that I think it'd be really awesome to shoot a show from their place. I mean, if anyone has anything like that going on, definitely shoot us an email.

Bigfoot hospice at gmail.com. But that's pretty much it, fellas. Sounds good. Sounds good idea. I hope you get to film better, Will. Yeah, me too. My throat's better. Yeah, mine too.

Mine too. I'm dying here. So wish everyone, wish you and Will and you and Woody and Will, wish you guys, Happy New Year and everyone out there listening, happy new year. And we'll see everyone after the first of the year. Betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus and

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