Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:977 I Have No Idea What I Saw

Episode Date: August 4, 2023

Jane writes "I am a 29 year old mother from eastern Kentucky, and I had an incredibly strange encounter while deer hunting with our oldest daughter last year. I am skeptical about telling this experience, just because I am skeptical myself, but here goes nothin'…. Last year I had promised our oldest daughter, who was 6 at the time, that I would take her deer hunting on our property opening day of modern gun season. My husband and father I own around 40 acres on the Montgomery/ Menifee line, the entirety of which is almost completely wooded, and goes all the way to the top of Turkey Knob, which then backs up to hundreds of acres of uninhabited forest. We woke up that morning and we're running a little behind because I had to feed our baby, and make sure our little boy and husband were set for breakfast. Once we headed into the woods the sky was starting to get lighter and I made to decision to find a good spot to sit on the ground because by the time we made it to our stand it would have already been daylight. Ended up at a tree that backed up to the top of Turkey knob, and we could see over the ravine into the ridge line where a big game trail was. We sat there for prob 30 mins or so and my little girl fell asleep in my lap, I was watching some gray squirrels play on a log down the hill in front of us when I heard a baby cry. The squirrels ran off and everything got really quiet. I thought maybe I was just hearing things, (our baby was only 4 months old at the time and I was still breastfeeding) but then I heard it again and again. I felt really disoriented, like I couldn't figure out where the cry was coming from. While I was trying to figure out where the cry was coming from, I heard something BARRELING down the side of the mountain behind me. We have horses and it was every bit as loud as a horse would be galloping full force through the woods. My little girl was still asleep in my lap so I couldn't jump up without waking her up and her making noise so I just sat as still as possible and grabbed my knife on my side (my rifle was leaned up against the tree). Out the side of my eye I saw something huge with long black hair coming down the ledge right behind me to the left of my tree. I thought it was a bear spooked from all the gunshots until I saw it's face out the side of my eye. It was no bear. It was looking behind it, and when it looked forward it was like it was surprised that it saw me there, furrowed it's brow, grunted and acted like it was going to charge me, but then, and I truly believe this, either saw I was a woman, or was holding a sleeping child, and it's expression immediately softened and hunkered down, held both its huge hands out like to say "it's ok, it's ok" slowly backed away about three steps and turned And bounded back up the cliff completely out sight. I was fully prepared to fight that thing to the death to protect my girl, but thankfully it didn't come to that. Wasn't even that worried waking her up and walking back out of the woods. Felt like an unspoken thing between mothers to be honest. I have no idea what I saw, but I am almost certain she was female. When she stood all the way up she was probably six foot tall or so. She had a gray skin on her hands and face, human eyes. The whole thing had me dazed and confused. I haven't told anyone this for fear of sounding like an absolute crack job. There's been multiple odd things happen on this property prior to this, and a weird occurrence that has happened since then. I'd be happy to tell the whole story."

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What happened what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six. bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see a bouncer? Yes, I'm looking right in.

Uh-uh. This is Nick from Vader, Washington, and you're listening to the best Bigfoot podcast out there, Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We will be chatting with Jane,

and Jane comes to us from Kentucky. And back in 2022, she had this encounter with a creature, when she was out with her baby kind of waiting on her husband while he hunted. I'll let Jane go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get

additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Jane to the show. Jane, thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me with. Yeah, and you had an encounter on this property back in 2022. I'm very fascinated by this encounter. But, you know, prior to seeing this creature, tell me a little bit about this property.

I mean, did you guys notice weird things going on? Yeah, we bought the property in November of 2020 is when we moved in. And right after we bought it, we own 25 acres. It's mainly hillside and it's pretty heavily wooded and it backs up to probably 300 or 400 acres that are not, you know, inhabited at all. It's just pure forest. And we're about 10 miles from the Daniel Boone National Forest. So when we moved in, everything went fine for a little while. You know, we were getting everything kind of sorted out.

And then once springtime came, so that would have been. and, you know, right around April or so of 2021, we started hearing some stuff. And, I mean, the way that the property sits is we, the house is like towards the front of the property and then all of our woods and everything is straight behind us. Once we started hearing, you know, some seven, it would just be like little things like whooping and things like that. And we're not really close to any neighbors, but, you know, on a hillside you think maybe sound travels and stuff. So we just kind of thought, well, maybe it's people playing. But then it

would like get really close. And, you know, I've been in the woods my whole life. And so I know the sounds that different animals make. So I'm like, this is just really odd. You know, the sounds that we were hearing. I mean, it was just like a lot of whooping. I mean, just like a whoop, whoop, and it just, it would get loud. And then sometimes we would hear howling, but it would be like, me and my husband and Joe were like, that is the long. You know, that cahoon dog has got like the strongest set of lungs, you know, just because it was just continuing. I mean, it would never break and just stuff like that. And we had heard one night, I was in the house and I do leather work and I was in the house and I heard like chattering like right outside, right outside our door.

And I was like, what in the world is that? So I would go out and, you know, look around at a super. as I would crack the door, the sound would stop. And then I would go back in and I would, you know, I'd shut the door and I'd listen again. And I mean, it sounded like it was right outside of my door. And the closest sound that I can find and it doesn't even, you know, it's not, wasn't exactly what I heard, but it was like foxes chattering. But like one, they would be chattering and then you would hear like a grunt, which would not go at all, you know, along with like, you know, the sound that fox make. So it was just really odd and we just kind of had some some encounters like that.

At one point we had seen the dogs had been barking a lot and we couldn't figure it out. And we had just had some trees cleared off. We have horses and we were trying to have some trees cleared off on this hillside in order to make another pasture. And whenever the guy had cleared it off, he had just pushed all the trees down like in the ravine. So the way that everything's laid out is like we're on a hill, we're on like a ridge line and then we own the ridge line next to us and then the one on the other side of us. So we had had it cleared off to the right hand side of us and the dogs were barking over in that direction. So I have like shine a spotlight out there and I'm like, man, I see something like hunching down behind like these trees that had been knocked down. And, you know, it was dark and, like, that spotlight was really bright, so I kind of turned it down.

I'm like, no, something is definitely, like, ducking down. And so I went and got my husband and I went and got a gun. And I'm very, like, you know, shoot first, ask questions later kind of gal. And I, like, just shot some rounds over in there. My husband was like, can't do that. Like, what if that is somebody? I'm like, well, maybe somebody shouldn't be on my property, you know, sneaking around. But it ended up, I don't know what it was.

you could kind of see it like leave, but it was really dark and it was hunched down, but it was very human-like in like how it was trying to avoid us. So I don't know what that was. Did you think it was someone on your property? I mean, at first I did just because of the way that it was acting. I mean, it was just very like head up and like, oh, you know, oh, shoot, I've gotten, you know, they've seen me so like they would duck down, but it's like they couldn't, you couldn't see, like they couldn't know that you were all, they, you know, that you could still

see them. So like, you could almost see that they were like trying to like hunch around and like try to get behind the trees and stuff. And I don't know, it was very weird. And I mean, it was very dark. So I just thought it was people enclosed. So we went back over there like the next day to look for tracks and stuff. But where, where I saw it at was like way, way too high for like a person to you, you know, to being able to see a person behind there. So I was like, well, maybe it's somebody like climbing up on them trees or something. You know, I'm, I'm very skeptical by nature. So I'm trying to find every little, you know, excuse I can as to like what that was.

And, you know, I don't know what that was. But if there was somebody, they were going to get shot that night. Yeah, I apparently, if you would, well, walk me in. your encounter, because your encounter really, really fascinates me, especially the behavior. Kind of what were you doing and what happened? Okay. This happened in November of 2022, so it's not quite been a year yet since it happened. So it's pretty fresh in my mind.

You know, growing up, like I've always, like, I'm a Christian, so, and we've always kind of been of the mind, like my dad and my mom and my grandparents have always kind of been of the same mindset that like, you know, if, if, you know, there's a heaven and there's a hell, you know, and the Lord was able to create all these other things, like, don't, you know, don't just kick out the possibility of there being other things. You know, I mean, I truly believe there's things in this world that we just do not understand. But I've always been like, yeah, it's, you know, it's a possibility. I'm not going to say that's not possible. But, when I hear other accounts and stuff, I'm very like, oh, well, that wasn't that or this, you know, they were mistaken or especially when people are, you know, having their mind, oh, I want to see a big foot. So they go out, like, in search of like evidence. And then, you know, you're like, oh, you've been wanting to hear it. And then they see something, you know, within the next week or so. And I've always been really skeptical about that. So that's never really been in my wheelhouse, like as far as what I think, you know, is going on.

I'm always very, like, logical-minded, you know, of, oh, well, this is something, or, you know, usually if it's something weird, I'm like, well, it's a person. You know, people are, people are weird in general. So I'm like, well, you know, it's probably somebody. So, November of last year, I'd had a baby. Her youngest baby was four months old at the time. And her oldest daughter was six and her son was five. I had, I promised her older daughter that I would take her deer hunting the opening weekend of modern rifle season. And I'm not really a hunter or anything, but I mean, I've been a couple times, but she really wanted to go. And I think it's just, you know, mainly for the experience. And because we'd had the new baby, I wanted to spend, you know, time alone with her.

So we decided that we were going to get up and go. And we had a tree stand set up over on my dad's property. and my dad had actually, once we moved in here, there was like land that had not at all been touched. He bought like another 20 acres next to us that he had like, I don't know, like maybe four acres cleared off and he had a cabin put in. But, you know, all his property and everything connected to us is nothing but woods. We own maybe five acres that are cleared for the horses. But everything else is, I mean, just heavily wooded. So we, his property, the way that's,

the ridge goes, his is actually flatter than ours. Ours is really, really steep. And ours goes all the way up to the top of like this mountain. And we've actually, I've never been even to the top of that property. I mean, I've been up as high as I could go. And I mean, I was on all fours, like digging and climbing, you know, up saplings and everything to get up there. I mean, you'd have to have like rock climbing equipment to get up to the top. So we had had a tree stand set up on my dad's place because it was a little bit more open and it was flatter and, you know, it was just a better spot overall to hunt. Well, by the time it had taken, you know, we've got three kids. So by the time we got everybody up and, you know, I got my little girl up and I had

to feed the baby. I was still breastfeeding at the time. And, you know, I was trying to make sure my husband knew what to feed, you know, her son for breakfast. I mean, it was a, it was a, you know, an ordeal. So by the time we got into the woods, it was getting ready to be daylight. It was It wasn't. It was still dark, but you could tell like the sky was starting to light in just a little bit. So we had started walking and I knew, because we left from the house, we didn't drive a side by side or anything. We just were walking. And where we were supposed to be going was probably three quarter of a mile into like, you know, over across the ridge line and stuff. Maybe a mile. I mean, it's a pretty good walk, but I figured that we could make it, you know, within 30 minutes. but by the time it ended up being, we decided just to wait at the first ridge line where it backs up to like this cliff.

And, you know, you can get around to the bottom of it, but the back of it is like way too steep. And there's no like, I mean, animals can't get up there or anything. So where we were at, we just stopped and I backed up against a tree to where I could see both ridge lines. You know, where I was originally wanting to hunt was still within like eye view, but, you know, it wasn't. wasn't as close as I'd hope for, but I could still see. And then it throwing into view another ridge line. So we, you know, we kind of stopped there. And I was wearing a, like my papaw used to always hunting one. It was just like a blue gene, like Levi coat. But then underneath of it, I had my husband's like camo hunting coat on. So because I wasn't planning on sitting on the ground,

I'd taken off the blue gene coat and I like laid it on, you know, on the ground. And, And, you know, we were sitting on it. I'd taken the gun and had, you know, propped it up next to me on the tree because my little girl was trying to get situated and stuff and find out where she was comfortable. And she ended up kind of laying down in my lap. And we were watching these three little gray squirrels like play on these logs like down the hill in front of us. And we were watching, I guess while we were watching that, she had fallen asleep. and we were probably there for, I don't know, maybe 30 minutes or something. I mean, it was getting light in the sky.

It wasn't like daylight yet, but I mean, it was getting pretty light to where, like, if you could see stuff. So, you know, we were waiting there and I realized that she had fallen asleep. So I was trying to, like, shuffle back and get comfortable. And, you know, I was kind of then trying to figure out how I was going to get the gun because I knew when she woke up, she was going to be like, you know, talking a lot. So I was just like, I'll wait and get the gun, you know, closer to me. And I just had to reach over, you know, her to get it or whatever.

But I had a hunting knife on my side, on my right-hand side. And so we were just sitting there and I heard a baby cry. And like, I kind of stopped and listened. And I was like, was I a baby crying? The squirrels kind of stopped too. And as I was like kind of looking around, I heard it again. And this time it was louder. and I'm like, what the heck?

So I'm like looking around trying to find out exactly where it's at. And then because we're nowhere near anybody else. You know, I mean, I know that sound travels, you know, up on hills and stuff. So I'm thinking, well, maybe the neighbors like that are, you know, a mile or two down from us, you know, maybe somehow it's echoing. But then I'm like, well, what if my baby's crying? And, you know, I was like, well, maybe my husband had gotten her out and maybe she was crying really hard or something. And he had gotten her out and, like, was walking around on the porch with her. I don't know how the sound would have carried, but I'm like, that's the only baby I know that's close by.

Because when I first heard it, it sounded like it was coming from like down in front of us over to the side, which is where the house would have been. And then I heard it again, and it was like behind us. And it was getting like progressively louder. And I was just like, the best way I can describe it is I just like felt really disoriented. Kind of like confused. I don't know. It was just a really weird feeling. and almost like, not that I didn't know what was going on, but I, like, could not pinpoint

where that sound was at. And the squirrels in front of me had, like, vanished. Like, they had run off. And this might be too much information. So, I mean, you can cut this out. But, I mean, I was still breastfeeding at the time. And the sound was loud enough that my milk let, like, let down. And, I mean, that's how loud that cry was.

So then I started, like, panicking. And I'm like, well, maybe, like, maybe my baby is, you know, crying or something. And so then I just like kind of wait and I'm like looking around and I'm like getting ready to get my phone out to text my husband to be like, you know, is the baby okay? And I just hear like this barreling like sound like starting at the top like from, you know, behind us. And I mean, this mountain is like, I mean, it's significant. It's not just like a little hump you have to get over. I mean, it's, it's, and it's multiple ledges. Like it's a, you know, you have to get off and then it kind of levels off. And I know that because I climbed up to that first, like, leveled off spot. And there's, like, a lot of big rock formations, and then you have to climb again. I mean, it's like an actual cliff. I mean, you know, there's multiple steps to it. So, like, I hear just this god awful, like, just barreling sound coming towards it.

I mean, it sounds like a car is just, like, rolling down this mountain behind us. And where I'm sitting at, like, it's behind. behind me, but it's not directly behind me. It's like more off to my left. You know, so I got my head turned, and I'm like, what is that? And we've had a bear siding here, you know, it'd been longer ago than when that had happened. But that was probably like a year after we had moved in. So, you know, we were always kind of thinking, Bayer.

They're not that common in Kentucky, but we do have them. And I mean, and I heard gunshots. I mean, it was, you know, it was open in weekend. So you could hear guns. gunshots, you know, from far away. And I'd heard probably four or so that morning. And I was thinking, well, this is a bear that has come from, you know, on the other side of the mountain that is, like, scared, you know, so I'm thinking immediately bear. So I can't get to my rifle, but I'm not, I'm not really scared of wildlife. You know what I mean? And I don't figure that, like, it's a mom

and cubs. I just figure, but with all the, all the sound, it's a bear. And I'm like, if I sit really quiet, And it's a really hard kind of situation to be in, especially when you have a child with you and a sleeping child, because you don't really know what to do. You know, I could have woken her up, but then she would have gotten panicked and she would have made way too much noise. So I'm thinking, if I can just keep her asleep and we can sit here really, really still, then this bear will just keep a going. You know, it's just so scared. It's just going to keep going. So, and that's my hope. And I have this knife on my side.

And, you know, as a mother, I'm like, if a bear tries me, you know, it's, it's, it's. It might kill me, but my baby's going to be all right. And I mean, it's going to go down with me. So, like, I go and I see out of the corner of my aunt, I see, like, this black mass. I mean, huge. I'm thinking to myself, this is the biggest bear I've ever seen. So then I start getting nervous because when I first heard the sound, I was still, like, in that disoriented state. So it almost felt like surreal.

But then, like, when I see how big it is, I'm like, oh, my God, that, no, that is a big bear. so I'm like kind of you know looking and I see it and it's just black I mean it's just hugely black and it has like long black hair and I mean it's shiny like it's not you know it's I mean it's pretty shiny like as you can see is the sun starting to come up and you can see like the sun reflecting off of it a little bit um because where we were at that's exactly where the sun would hit and um so I'm just like you know looking and then I'm like really really see because I don't want it to see us. You know, I'm like, if I just sit really, really still, it'll just keep going.

So I've got my hand on my knife, but I'm just sitting there. And I don't really know what to do because I'm like, you know, if I wake her up, she's going to freak out. And if we run, we're, you know, we're had. So I'm just like, well, I'll just sit right here. And I kind of had adjusted her, like, before that to where she was in like in a better position that I could have just pushed her off of me. But I'm just sitting there and I'm just looking. And I'm really, really tense. and it's coming down like really, really fast,

and it's got its head turned. So I'm still, this whole time, I'm like, it's a bear, but it was like looking behind it. Like, it was scared of whatever was going on on the other side of the mountain. So it's got its head turned, and I'm like, man, it's a bear, you know, and I'm just thinking, you know, that's all I'm thinking is just bear, bear, bear, bear. And then it turns its head, it sees us.

Like, it's turning its head to, like, look where it's going, and then it sees us. And I see its face and I'm like, what the hell is that? Like, it was not a bear. And like I was just kind of like in disbelief because the face of this thing looked, it looked really ape-like except for the eyes and the nose. You know, it had like human eyes and it had like a much more like protruded nose than like what you would see on like a gorilla or a chimpanzee.

The nostrils were still really big, but it was, you know, I mean, it was definitely out. It wasn't like flat with the face. The mouth looked pretty similar. I mean, I think the bottom lip was probably a little bit bigger than like, you know, a gorilla or whatever that doesn't have any lips. But, I mean, it had kind of like that jutted out mouth a little bit. And it just sees me. And the way I'm sitting on this tree, it's still behind me, but it's not, it's almost

completely flush with it. me. So it's probably, I don't know, five foot from where I'm at. Like, it's not flush with me, but I've got my head turned so I can see it completely out of my left eye. And I'm just looking and it stops. It recognizes that there's somebody there and then it gets pissed. It just like acts like it's mad and it like kind of puffs up its chest. And this thing had breast. I mean, it was not like, you know, I mean, it was hairy, but it was definitely not like pectoral muscles. I mean, it was very muscular, but it was more than that. And it like kind of puffs up and it grunts.

And then like, I moved to grab my knife, like, pull it completely out of the sheath. And then it like, I don't know if it recognized that I was a woman or that I had a sleeping child in my lap or, you know, what it was. But its expression immediately changed to more like, oh, you know, like if you walk in on like a sleeping baby and, you know, or you walk into somebody's house when a baby's sleep and you're like, hey, everybody. And then, you know, they're like, the baby's sleeping. And you're like, oh, when you kind of like hunker your shoulders down and your expression kind of like, you know, softens. And it like kind of hunkered its shoulders down and like held out its hands like, sorry or, you know, like it's okay or whatever or don't mind me. Just in a very human like manner.

and then it just turns around and it like runs three strides and just like leaps back up that big you know all three of those like little things I mean it was gone and I mean by the time it like jumped it was out of my line of vision but it was I mean it was gone and I was like what in the world was that you know I sat there for a minute but like once it was over with I didn't feel scared you know I mean I was scared when it was happening. But like once it was gone, I did not have like a, you know, I've got to get out of here kind of feeling. I was just like, oh, that was close. You know, but I felt like the danger had passed. And so, you know, I woke my daughter up then. And I was like,

let's let's go on home. You know, I didn't see anything. And we walked out. And I mean, I kept my eye behind me and stuff. And, but it was just a very, you know, it's, it's hard for me to even, you know, talk about this because it just is so absurd to me. But, I mean, that's what I saw. It's just, you know, it's odd. And I mean, it's strange, but, you know, I know what I saw. And, you know, it was just a really, it was a really surreal kind of experience. Yeah, I can imagine, especially with your, your child there, what an encounter.

Did you, so did you go home after this? We were closer to my dad's at that point. So we ended up just like walking around the ridge and just going on to my dad's. And I mean, I was still very, very shaken up. And my dad's like, what happened? And I was like, oh, you know, I just, I saw something. You know, it wasn't, I don't know what it was, probably a bear or something. You know, and it took me and I finally did tell him, but it took me like a while because, you know,

you're like, did I really see that? You know, I mean, it really makes you question like your own sanity. because you're like, this is, this is something that is, you know, I mean, it was just an unbelievable kind of thing. I mean, I was so, it was just such a bad situation in the moment to be in because like as a mother, you're always playing out like, what if this happens? You know, I've got my kids with me or what if this happens? You know, and you're always like, have a game plan that, you know, you don't have a game plan for that. So I was kind of like frozen there and I'm like, I'm going to have to fight this thing with enough because I can't get to

my gun and time. You know what I mean? I'm just like trying to think of what the best way to throw my little girl off of my lap is going to be, you know, and like what I'm going to do. And then it just kind of was like, oh, you know, okay, I'm going to back on out of here. And it just like, and I mean, to me, you know, and it's my own opinion, but I mean, I think it was female for sure. You know, it just had that like feeling about it that it was like, you know, I'm just going to get out of here. You know, don't be afraid. You know, but I mean, I think if I'd been a man, especially I think it was very angered.

I don't know if it was because of, you know, the hunting and all that was going on or if it was after a deer or whatever it was. But it just seemed very like, okay, I want to get out of here kind of, you know, kind of deal. But, you know, and I was wearing my husband's, like, you know, coat and all that. So, I mean, I think if it had been a man, it would have been. been definitely like a probably a different scenario because I mean his expression when it saw me and like picked it up at first was like very very angry and it like really stood up and you know it was probably I don't know it was probably six five I mean it was a substantial hot but it wasn't you know in my experience it wasn't as big as like eight or nine foot or

anything like that I mean it was the size of like a really tall man and but I mean God, it was so broad. Like, I mean, it was just like, I just, it's hard to describe, like, how big the thing was. Like, you know, I mean, in my side of my eye, it almost took up the entire, like, side of my vision because it was so big. Yeah, you know, you're right. You know, even when you think about, like, the animal kingdom, you come across to mother and her cubs and you're probably going to die. In the animal kingdom, I mean, a mother is a thousand times more dangerous than it. anything else. And maybe it saw that. I mean, it's, it's hard to say. It made me laugh a little bit.

You know, when I was a bouncer in Vegas, we used to always do rock, paper, scissors on who was going to go break up women fighting. Women are vicious. Women are vicious. And the reason why we did rock paper scissors is because, you know, the guy going was probably going to come back hurt. You know, and that's, I'm not afraid. Like, I'm not, you know, and, you know, there might be a case later on, but even now, like, I'm not afraid. But, you know, I've never been afraid of animals because in my mind, I'm just like, I know I'm mean enough, you know, I mean, I know I'm mean enough. I can take that thing out.

And, like, that's just how I've always felt. And I'm like, this is probably like not a great trait to have. But like, you know, I'm like, I know that push comes to shove. It's going to be them and not me. You know, and if it comes to my kids, well, it's all y'all. You know, I mean, it's, and I don't know if that thing kind of picked that up. Like, oh, she's going to, she's going to like, down today, you know, I might, I might get her for a long haul, but I'm going to, like, walk away

injured at the very least. So, you know, but I agree. But the thing, I mean, you know, but she, and I say she, but I mean, I think if it had been a man, like, I mean, she stood up and, like, it was just, like, just huge. And then I was like, oh, Lord, you know, here I go. I mean, I was scared then, you know, but I, and it's just like, it's just like, it's. as soon as it stood up, it was just like that realization of like, no, you know, this is a woman with a child. And it just like, it just completely like kind of didn't hunker down. But, you know, it kind of dropped its shoulders, like tucked its head down a little bit and was like, okay. And like put its hands out.

And I mean, it had huge hands. Like, I mean, like people hands, except they were huge and they were covered in like black hair. But like it had five fingers and like, you know, held out its hand like, okay. I want to back away. And it took backward steps. Like it took like three backward steps. And then it turned and was gone. And I was like, okay.

You know, and it was just very, it was just, it was a lot, you know. Yeah, it's a lot to take in. It's a lot to process, you know, what in the world is this thing. When you were looking at it, what details stood out to you the most? to me it looked a lot more ape-like than human-like. I mean, it had like human-like eyes more so, you know, and I mean, we go to the zoo all the time, so I'm going to like reference guerrillas a lot because, you know, we've seen them multiple times, like within the last couple years.

But, I mean, even guerrillas at the zoo, to me, are very human-like. I mean, they make very, you know, very human-like expressions in a lot of cases. but this thing was beyond that, but it looked more, I mean, it had like a more prominent nose, and, you know, its eyes, like I said, were more human-like. But it had like that, you know, that bone across the brow that jutted out, and it had like a more of a cone-shaped head. But its body was longer than like a gorilla. And, you know, it had, its body was similar, but it was like more, it was longer.

and its arms were like very, very long, you know, on its face where there wasn't hair and there was hair almost everywhere except for like right around the eyes, right around the nose and like the mouth. And the mouth kind of came out in like that circular like muzzle shape, almost like a, you know, like a gorilla or a chimpanzee. But it was that was all like a gray color. You know, like I said, I only saw it out of my left eye, but I mean, I got a very good look out of my left eye. and but it just and you know even whenever it like kind of stopped it kind of like jutted out its lips almost like ooh ooh you know like that

you know when you can see like a gorilla or a champ you know making that that round movement with their mouth you know that's what it looked like but it was much more human acting than you know than the way that I've seen like

gorillas or chimps or anything you know act in the past and you know it had really black hair and it was shiny hair. I mean, it wasn't like, it didn't look, you know, it didn't look unkept. It looked like somebody had just like brushed the thing out. I mean, it was shiny and very, I mean, black, black, black hair. I didn't see its feet, but I saw to like the very bottom of its belly, you know, when it was all covered in hair, but it was thinner like at the chest. And so you could see something like that gray skin kind of, you know, coming through. But the eyes, I mean,

the eyes were like probably, they were a dark color, but they weren't brown. They were probably like a grayish color. But it was just, it was just very, you know, I mean, very ape looking with, you know, some human features that it just acted so human. You know, I mean, even if that's what it was or, you know, if it was just somebody behind, you know, that tree that time kind of bent down. Like after encountering this thing, I wouldn't have been surprised if it would have been one of those because I thought, well, that's like a person, you know, hunching down behind something.

You know, so now I'm just like question everything that we've, you know, we've heard on the property. So, yeah, I mean, it was, it was very human-like in its mannerisms, but it looked more, looked more ape-like, I guess. Yeah, when eyewitnesses come forward, it's usually one of three things. They'll say it looked like an ape or it looked like a monkey or it looked like a monkey or it looked like it was very human in the face. And I wanted to ask you, how far away is this creature? And do you think it's because you had your baby with you is why it backed off?

It was, I mean, it was close. And like I said, it was coming from behind me, but it wasn't directly behind me. It was probably, I don't know, maybe a hundred foot or so, maybe less than that from me. And it had stopped almost completely flush with me. So probably five foot back. So I had my head turned and I could see. And it was, I mean, it was still so huge. And it like, you know, it saw.

And I think that, I think it saw, you know, somebody sitting there, you know, because where it came down, that was the side that the gun was on. So, you know, I think it saw a gun there. I think it saw, you know, somebody in camo or whatever. And, you know, it was my husband's coat. You know what I mean? I'm sure that men smell different than women. And I think it was just.

just like annoyed that it saw, you know, somebody hunting or somebody there. And it just might be, too, that is a general rule. You know, we say women are, and I mean, I can attest to this. Like, I'm, if it comes down to it, like, you know, you're probably not going to win a fight with a woman, you know, if she's really mad. But I don't feel like women are as quick to try to, like, push their weight around. You know, I think it takes a little while before you're, like, really angry or you're really, like, defensive. So I think that when things encounter men, it automatically assumes that this is another like territorial male and it's going to like fight me. And, you know, I think that she, she saw that and she was like, oh, you know, here I go. This thing's going to shoot at me. And she

was like, you know, buffing up to it, you know, like puffed that chest out, like, come at me. And then she was like, you know, when I went to get that knife, because I'm like, here I go. I think she either saw that I was a woman because when I turned, you know, my hair was out of like the hood or she saw my daughter laying in my lap. And I think it was because she saw my daughter. And, you know, it was just like, oh, okay. You know, I was wrong. I'm getting out of here. Don't mind me.

Kind of thing. I mean, it was just very, like, non-aggressive, like, at all. It was just almost like, he was just so human-like, because I can just see my brother. or like coming in my house, you know, when the baby's asleep, like, being loud and doing the exact same movement that this thing did. But, I mean, it just like turned around and just bounded, like, up this mountain. I mean, and was gone. Like, there's no, a bear wouldn't have been able to get back up that cliff. I mean, nothing.

I don't know anything that would be able to get up that cliff. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like 50, 60 foot just straight up. And, I mean, it was just, it was incredible. But I didn't feel, you know, I didn't feel scared. Like once, I mean, the adrenaline, you know, was so, so high. And any time you, like, come off of an adrenaline rush, you know, like you get sick and you're like, oh, Lord. But, you know, I felt like that wave coming over me, but I wasn't scared to be in the woods. And it might just be that, you know, like with other things, you know, males are more territorial and more aggressive.

You know, and it might be that the females are too if they're young around. but, you know, in my experience, you know, that time it was not, that wasn't the case. It was very like, you know, from one mother to another mother, I'm getting out of here. I don't want to cause any trouble, you know, because I think that they can sense that too. Like, I can think, I think that they can sense, like, I'm not, I'm not backing down. You know, this one's not going to back down or this one's not going to run or, you know, whatever. You know, Jane, many years ago, my opinion on Sasquatch was Kill Em All and, like, God, figure it out. And I'll tell you the moment that kind of changed my opinion.

I was at Jonathan Brown's property, and I was in the, he had this audio tent. I'll give you the very short version of what happened, but, and he has this audio tent set up. Well, on YouTube, you can play this three hour long baby crying that it'll drive you, completely insane. I mean, you have three kids. You know what I'm talking about. And I had a very similar experience that this thing came down this hillside, and it sounded like a semi-truck coming right for that tent. And I was the only one in the tent. And I heard it coming. And my first thought was, well, I'm about, I'm about to be mowed down. I mean, I could hear this thing just coming. And it stopped on the edge of the tree line and started cooing like a mother, a cooter,

a child. And I remember sitting there thinking like, maybe I'm wrong, you know, on this whole thing. Maybe they aren't, you know, all bloodthirsty monsters, you know. And this thing sounded like a female. I mean, it had a very female tone to it. And it was like a mother cooing to her child. And it really, really threw me off. And you gave a great illustration with, you know, you go into someone's home and you're loud and they're like, hey, the baby's sleeping. And I've done that before. You know, oh, sorry about that. And I can almost see myself doing the same gestures you were describing this creature

doing. It's very human-like behavior, in my opinion, anyway. But what do you make of that behavior? I mean, that's a little more than an animal. You know, I mean, I've always been in the woods. And, you know, when we hunt, like, I'm not like a big, you know, I'll go hunting. but like it's mainly just to see stuff. You know, I mean, I'll, and it's not like I have a problem with, like, you know, shooting anything because, but to me, it's more like, if what I'm going to shoot is going to be, you know, an issue on my property.

You know, if I have something that's coming in causing a ruckus, if I have like coyotes or whatever. And as a general rule, you know, I mean, we'll go hunting occasionally. But I like, you know, I fish my whole life, like, you know, and we're always in the woods. And, you know, I train horses. and so we trail ride a lot, you know, and I'm always, and usually I'm by myself, and you see a lot on horseback in the woods than you would see even just like on the ground because I think that the smell of the horse probably like covers up your scent. So like you see a whole lot more wildlife than what you would see, you know, just just on foot.

And I mean, especially, you know, on like a side by side or a four-wheel or whatever. And I've just never, you know, The general consensus is that, you know, animals are scared of people. All animals are scared of people. You know, I've never encountered an animal that has, you know, has ever acted, like, even remotely. You know, I love animals. But, like, you know, I get so annoyed when people put, like, human emotions on animals because they're animals. You know, you'll see a video with somebody and they're like, look, it's burying its dead puppy.

I'm like, it's bearing its puppy to eat later. Like, you know, I mean, the animals are animals. And, you know, and I love them, but they don't have human emotion. You know, they care about things, I think, like they're young and stuff, but they don't, you know, your dog doesn't love you because, you know, it thinks you're a great person. It loves you because you feed it every day, you know, and you're gentle to it. It doesn't love the same way that we love. And that doesn't mean that, you know, I'm not taken away from how important animals. are how much I, you know, love them, but they don't love us back the same way, if that makes

sense. But this thing, like, it had human emotion. I mean, it had human, like, mannerisms. And it didn't move necessarily like a human whenever it was coming down the heel. I mean, it was moving very, very, like, largely and, like, you know, like, like a run, but it was, like, like, rolling its shoulders. And that's why I originally had thought, like, a beggar, because it was rolling its shoulder so much. I mean, it had such a huge front end on it that it was like rolling. And you could see like the muscle and stuff, but its head was turned around so I couldn't see its head. And then like it turned around and stood up, you know, like whenever it was like looking forward.

And then I realized like it wasn't it wasn't running on four legs. It was just like kind of like pushing itself along, you know, with its front legs or maybe even moving trees out of the way. I don't know. but it was not like weight bearing on all four legs. And, you know, and just the expression on its face. And like I said, it had some human like characteristics, but to me it looked more animal, but it's, I mean, its mannerisms were just so human to me.

You know, and it displayed a lot more like, I don't know, I'm not going to say compassion or anything like that. But, I mean, I'm going to say it for the sake of this podcast is, you know, it did. It displayed more compassion than, you know, some people I've seen. You know, it was just like, you know, some people walk into, and they just don't care. They're just like, oh, you got a kid there. But it was almost like it didn't want to be, it didn't want to wake the baby up. It didn't want to wake the kid up. It didn't want me to be

afraid because it could have just as easily, you know, went around and like, no, this is my wood, you know, and like made a big show and still not hurt me. But it could have done more than just been like, oh, no, I'm going to back up. But it's like it wanted to make a point to show me. Like, I'm not, I'm not a threat. Like, I'm not a threat. You don't have to be worried about your kid. You know, it was just very, it was very human-like. Yeah, I think you and I are on the same page, Jane.

I mean, your normal predator is either going to run from you or it's going to fight. The way this thing reacted, I mean, it didn't sound like either. I ask everyone who comes on the show, Jane, what do you think Sasquatch is? And especially after this experience, I'm very curious. What do you think that these creatures are? You know, it's kind of, it's a hard question, you know, for anybody. But I do believe that they are, you know, I do believe that they are a biological creature. I don't necessarily know that they live here all the time.

You know, I mean, I felt very, very, like, I felt a really weird feeling before I saw it. You know, when I heard that baby crying, and I still don't know what that was. You know, I mean, I texted my husband, like, as we were leaving the woods, and I was like, hey, you know, is the baby okay? And he was like, yeah, she's still asleep. Like, she had not woken up that morning. So, you know, I don't know what that was. But I just had this feeling of just like, almost like a daze. Like, it just felt very like, I don't know, almost like it wasn't real. Like, you know, everything around me. I don't know. I mean, it was just very odd. I mean, and it just. You know, it went away, but, you know, I don't think, and this is just my opinion, but I don't think that something that big could live here all the time without there being, like, physical, physical evidence of it. I just don't think that that's the case. I mean, you know, I know that the world is a big place, but there's people all the time that are in the woods. You know, I mean, there's people all the time with cell phones and, you know, and video cameras and, you know, all this stuff. You know, my only explanation for it is because I saw it.

And it wasn't, it wasn't a ghost. It wasn't an apparition. You know, it was flesh and blood. And I had went back there the next day without my daughter. And, I mean, there was huge marks, you know, that went up the side of that mountain. I mean, I didn't make that up. I didn't just imagine that. You know, it had went up there.

And, you know, that's a real creature that does that. I mean, real creatures leave, you know, trace evidence behind in the form of, you know, scuffing up the ground when they're running. But I just, I think that they, you know, whether it be like portals or, you know, other places in time or, you know, no mind to, you know, know, know what it is. But I don't think that they are here all the time because I think that they have the ability to just, you know, poof and go back wherever they need to go or to, you know, travel, you know, through space in order to like come back out at another place.

I don't know. But, you know, I think that there's another thing to it. I don't think it's just that, you know, there are a long-lost species of, you know, human, animal, cross, or whatever. And we've just not been able to track them or keep track of them. I don't think that's the case. And I think that there's another element to that, you know, we just don't know. Yeah, I think that's a fair answer, Jane. I agree with you. I think they're very physical, but there's something weird going on here.

There's something very strange. You know, even you describing that feeling right before it walking up or the baby crying. You know, was it this thing doing that baby crying sound? It's hard to say. And I know, you know, prior to this, you won't really end a Bigfoot. And now you're on this property. I mean, it's such an amazing account, especially with the behavior of of this one that you ran into, I'd like to know if anything else happens on this property because it's been a pretty recent encounter. I mean, this sighting was a year ago, and I'd be very curious to know if anything else happens.

No, I definitely will. There's been some, I mean, there's been quite a few odd things that have happened. And, I mean, it's just like, you know, it's progressively, not that it's gotten worse, but, like, you know, it's not at all, like, slow, down. So, yeah, I would be happy to keep you in the loop. Yeah, please do. Please keep me up to date. I would love to know if anything else happens. But again, it's probably one of the more amazing accounts with regard to behavior that I've heard. There's no doubt in my mind.

They're running around on that property over there. But I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. I enjoy chatting with you, Jane. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. And that's it for tonight. Everyone remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.