Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:992 The Baba Yaga

Episode Date: September 30, 2023

Tracy will be my guest on an upcoming show. In 1991 in North Carolina Tracy had an encounter with something. Tracy said "I was told about this strange creature on our hunting property." Tracy didn't believe his uncle and other family members, he thought they were just messing with him until he ran into it. Tracy said "It stood like a man but it was not a man. I just kept asking what is it? His Father and Uncle told him me they had seen it many times."

I had seen something come out of the edge of the field, out of the edge of the woods down towards the corner of the field. I had asked my uncle, I said, what is that in the edge of the field down there? He said, he kind of laughed. He said, that's your boogey man. It stood like a man, kind of slumped over and it had like a sway to it. Like you could actually see its arms were almost touching the ground and they were just swinging in front of whatever this was. And I kept asking, what is that thing? And they said, we don't know what it is.

But it's been back here for several years. And, you know, this isn't our first time seeing it. It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. and it either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up, and that shocked me. They don't make people that big.

The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet but what I saw were bears. 9-1-1, what are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better.

Cher? See somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about 6'9, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right in any. Uh-uh. Oh-ha, this is Ava from Hawaii, and you're listening to my favorite podcast, Sasquatch Chronicles.

Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We're going to be chatting with Tracy, and Tracy comes to us from North Carolina. And back in the early 90s, he's about 14 years old when he finds out there's this weird creature running around, this section of the property that they used to hunt all the time. His uncle knew about it, his father knew about it. And Tracy talks about having run-ins with this creature growing up,

and I really wanted to have him on the show to talk about it. So I'm so glad he's here tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Tracy to the show.

Tracy, thanks for coming on. Hey, thanks for having me, Wes. Yeah, and you grew up on this property out there in North Carolina, and I know a portion of the property was used for hunting. And kind of the first time you had a run in with it was in the early 90s. You were about 14. If you would, take me back to that first time of seeing this creature. What were you doing? And what happened?

Okay. I was a teenager at that time and me and my cousin, you know, about the same age as I am, were fooling around playing basketball in a yard one day. My uncle and a group of guys were sitting around and they were telling hunting stories. I overheard them saying something about a creature or a monster up in the back part of the cornfield where they were coon hunting at. And curiosity got the best of me. So I kind of interrupted the conversation. I was asking, you know, what in the world are you guys talking about? And one of the older gentlemen kind of laughed at me and said, go on play with your cousin, young man, you probably don't want to hear these stories.

And I said, no, you know, I'd really like to hear. And my uncle said that they went coon hunting and something on the backside of the cornfield in the woods was making a god off a racket. And, you know, me being a young teen, I just kind of laughed at them and said, oh, okay, whatever. And then they said, no, you said, you know, you think this is all a joke. It's really back there. And, you know, I had asked, you know, when are you guys going hunting again? And they said, well, it's your lucky day, because we're going later this evening.

fast forward, you know, we put the dogs in the box on the back of the pickup truck and go out to this cornfield and let the dogs loose. Well, the dogs, you know, they strike through the woods. They're hunting. And I remember it was a full moon. And it was about this time of the year, late fall. And I had seen something come out of the edge of the feet. out of the edge of the woods down towards the corner of the field. And I'm going to estimate it was anywhere from seven to eight feet tall.

And you could just see a silhouette of it. This smell was, it was mixed between a dead animal and a skunk and like a putrid rotten egg. And I had asked my uncle, I said, what is that in the edge of the field? down there. He said, he kind of laughed. He said, that's your boogeyman. You know, we sat there and watched it and it stood like a man kind of slumped over and it had like a sway to it. Like you could actually see its arms were almost touching the ground and they were just swinging in front of whatever this was. And, you know, after a while it had turned and went back into the the woods and it let out this, this howl. And, you know, we kept listening to the dogs and I kept asking, you know, what is that thing? And they said, we don't know what it is, but it's been back here for several years.

And, you know, this isn't our first time seeing it. Well, it, it, the next sound it made wasn't a how. it was more like a scream. It started out slow like an air raid siren and then went to a high-pitched scream. And the next thing that followed was the dogs had forgotten the whole reason for being there and they had came back to the truck. So then, you know, we came home and fast forward a week.

all that week I'd ask my uncle, you know, hey, when you're going back hunting? When you're going back hunting? And he said, we're going back this Saturday night. You want to go? I said, sure. So the Saturday came and we did the same routine, load the dogs in the box on the back of the truck and go to the same place. And we opened the doll box and the dogs kind of coward, you know, like they didn't want to get out of the box. So they put the leashes on them

And we're walking them through the woods And you could hear Through our footsteps Something walking behind us And every time we would stop It would take a extra step or two And this thing was Right on top of us

And my uncle said, don't pay no attention to it You know, just keep going Maybe it'll leave us alone So we get farther and further in the woods and it like circled around us like counterclockwise. And it seemed like it was walking counterclockwise and circles around us, just whooping and some kind of gibberish communication. And then we noticed that there was something to the right of us like gibbering back, like communication. And then it's like all heck broke loose. It sounded like sampling trees were being ripped up out of the ground.

The dogs, they don't remember where we ended up finding them at, but they left the area quick. we finally, you know, the next day I was like, you know, telling my cousin to my uncle and I was like, you know, I don't know if I care to go back out there. My uncle, you know, he kind of made a funny joke. He's like, what's wrong? You scare as a boogeyman? And then, you know, we went on a week or a month went on. And it just kept going through my head, the sounds, the smell,

and what I had seen in the edge of the woodline. in the field. So, you know, teens being teens, by this time I'd have my driver's license, and I was with some friends, you know, hanging out and working on it like teens did back then, and I was telling them about it, and they kind of laughed about it. And I was like, you know, well, you know, you don't believe me. I can take you out there. We can go out there.

So there's three carloads of us had went out there. and me and my friend Charlie got out of the car. In the cornfield, there's like a road that goes down the center of the cornfield, and when we would bail around bells of hay, we would line them up along that road that split the two fields. And I told Charlie, I said, you know, our best field of view would be to get on top of these hay bales and walk down to the edge of the woods. And if we could see anything, we would be overseeing everything in the field.

well, me and Charlie got up on the hay bales and we were walking down the hay bales. And we'd probably got 150 yards away from the vehicles. And I told Charlie, I said, Charlie, I said, right there it is. It was kind of like hunkered down beside the hay bales at the edge of the woods. And he said, where is it at? I don't see it. And I pointed it. I said, it's right there at the wood line in the field beside the hay bales.

Well, he has a LED pin light in his shirt pocket, and he pulls it out and he shines it, and you can't really get a good view of it with the flash with the pin light because it only goes so far out. But it went far enough out to wear whatever this was seen it. And I don't know if it hurt his eyes, but he stood up beside the hay bales. Now, mind you, me standing on the hay bales, On flat foot on the ground, I'm 6'3. Standing on the haybells, I'm every bit of 12, 13 feet off the ground, you know. This thing, I am almost, its head was probably at my chest or a little below my chest.

And it let out a scream. And, you know, I told Charlie, I said, you're on your own. So I'm running trying to get away. And I forget where the last bell of hay is and run off the bell of the hay and push my foot up onto the side of my shin. And I was hospitalized for a week having reconstructive surgery on my ankle. And this thing, it, you know, it's hard to explain to someone that doesn't believe or has never encountered. this kind of creature, but it made a big impact on my life for a long time. Yeah, I can imagine. It makes a major impact on you when you're 40 and you run into these things.

I can't imagine being 14 and having this go on. I wanted to ask you two questions. And I've seen what you're talking about where farmers will separate different farms with hay bales and it goes a whole length of the farm. when you guys saw this saying, how far away from you was it? And was there any details that you recall? I realize this is at night. When it stood up, it was, I'm going to say, a good 35, 40 feet. I mean, we were right on top of it. And it was, like, once again, the moon was kind of full.

So, you know, you could see silhouettes of stuff. But, you know, the one time I seen it in the daylight, it's like a like a shiny rust color just just hair everywhere except for

its hands and its face yeah and I want to come back to what you're talking about because I know a lot went on on this property a lot of people had seen this creature but this particular night

when you're looking at it was it more like an outline yeah it was you could say the figure of it when it stood up, you could tell that it was real muscular. You could see that through the hair. It was real muscular. And its mandible lower jaw was kind of that of a gorilla.

And its eyes were kind of like high up on its head and kind of sunk it in. and it's you could see its hand whenever my buddy had to shine the light, you know, it, it had, it had hands that I'm going to tell you, I've, I've never seen hands on any other human this big. And it, it didn't put its hand in front of its face, but it kind of put its forearm up to, like, kind of block the light. And it was, it was a gigantic hand. when it put its form up to block the light, that's when it let out the scream. And I knew then it was, you know, it was time to go. Yeah, I know from talking to you off the air that the creature really didn't give any sort of chase, it didn't come after you.

And you have a busted ankle at this point. What do you end up doing? Do you get up and head back to the car? I mean, what do you do next? I actually leave there knowing that my ankle was broken and my car stays in that location and a friend takes me straight to the hospital. Yeah, I've broke my ankle before and it hurts. It hurts really bad.

It hurts a whole different level of pain. And I realize you're laying on the ground. So this might be kind of a dumb question. But does a creature take off at this point? because nothing else really happened. Nothing happened. I didn't pay attention to where it was after that. Once it stood up,

I would have stood there and looked at it forever until it screamed. When it screamed, you know, I knew, hey, this thing means business. And I'm not sticking around to catch the aftermath of what this thing's capable of doing. Yeah, I don't blame you. And, you know, so you break your ankle at this point. How long does it take to heal? And when was kind of the next incident? Because you're, what, about 16 at this point?

16. I break my ankle and they put two titanium rods up through the bottom of my foot. It takes two months for two, three months for it to fully heal. And in the meantime of it, healing I am. a cast. And I'm going to say three weeks after I get out of the hospital, you know, I have friends coming over and there. Tell me what you and Charlie's, you know, tell me what you and Charlie's saying.

You know, tell me what you and Charlie's saying. And, you know, I break it down to them and tell them. And I get the same thing, you know, it's always a joke. I so, you know, we can go out there. I won't, you know, I'll not be. able to go down in the field as far as I've been able to go, but I'll take you back there. So me and this other friend, we get in his pickup truck and we go back. It's about 35 minutes from where I'm currently living at now.

And we pull down into the edge of the field. There's like a little gravel area there and drive between two wind roads to get into the field. and we stop. And I get out with my crutches and, you know, he lets the tailgate down on his truck and we're sitting there with a small mag-like flashlight on. We're just chit-chatting and my buddy, he lights up a cigarette, and just carry on the conversation, you know. I can tell when it's around because it gets, like, completely quiet.

You know, this is farmland. you hear off in the distance, you hear cows move and you'll hear a farmer down the road's dog barking. You hear the crickets and the frogs going on, nature. You know, nature just taking place. And when this thing comes around, you don't hear nothing. It is scary, silent. And I had elbowed my buddy and told him, I said, you know, I don't know where it's at, but it's close. He was asking, how can you tell?

I said, you don't hear nothing. I said, you don't hear frogs. You don't hear crickets chirping. You don't hear nothing. And this thing let out a noise. I can't mimic the noise, but I've heard it on the beginning of several of your podcast or where it's like a gibberish. And it goes into, from gibberish to a full out scream.

And, you know, that's when my buddy says, hey, I've heard enough. It's time to go. And you're still in a cast at this point. Still in a cast, got two pins sticking out of the bottom of the cast. My mom asked the doctor if, you know, when you put the pins in, if he would put the pins out of the bomb on cast because she knows, you know, I'm rambunk. I'm an outdoors guy, you know, put the pins. Leave them sticking out so he can't have any chance of walking. So I rig it up.

I take a spray paint can and turn it upside down and stick it over the rods and duct tape it to my cast. You know, just in case I did happen to fall off my crutches, I would have a chance of not, not damaging the rods that's going up into my leg. Can I ask you? because I know a lot of people listening will have this question pop up in their head. And I think I know the answer to it. But some might think, you know, you're just a kid. And, you know, when you're 16, you're invincible.

So I get a lot of that. But why go back? I'm going to have to say it's not knowing what it truly is. The unknown really just spikes my curiosity. as far as, you know, as far as, you know, getting this out to U.S., my uncle and my dad, you know, they've both passed on and they wouldn't speak openly about it to anyone. My brother and my cousin, they have both witnessed it when they were my age, and they wouldn't openly speak to it about anyone. But for some reason, it just, something kept drawing me to that area. You know, I farmed these fields as a kid and not knowing what was there.

And the whole time it was there and not knowing it just excited me. You know, and if, you know, we were talking yesterday, if the farm hadn't been sold and some other guy hadn't bought the land, I would probably still be going back now. Yeah, and I understand the way you feel. Bill, the other thing, too, and I can put myself in your position. No one likes to be called a liar. I can't imagine a worse thing being cold than a liar. And here your friends are kind of like, oh, okay, really? And so you're like, hey, let's go.

That's right. What was kind of the next thing that happened on the property? The next incident was, I'm going to say, 97, 98, me and my cousin, we worked together in a diesel shop. We worked night shift, and we got a call one night that it was my cousin's sister. She said, I need you guys to get here quick. They always refer to it as that thing. That thing at the Big Creek has got after dad.

and one of his friends, Rick. So me and my cousin jump in his truck, and we haul butt there. And we get there. And mind you now, Rick is my uncle at that time. He was in his mid-60s. Rick was in his early 60s. Rick was a, he is a Vietnam veteran, done two tours of duty over in Vietnam, you know, macho, not scared of nothing.

We get there and my uncle and Rick are sitting in a pickup truck. And Rick, he can't even get words out, you know. And, you know, we asked them, what happened? What's going on? And they said they were sitting on the edge of the, edge of the woodline in the field. And they were just sitting there conversating. And Rick had a flashlight on. I guess this creature got a little too close to him.

And Rick to this day claims that if he hadn't thrown his flashlight into the woods, he thinks that I'm pretty sure. He said he's pretty sure it was going to get one of them. I don't know if it had been agitated and it just had its breaking point. But it got pretty scary that night for my uncle and his friend Rick. And, you know, I can talk to Rick today about going back over there because Rick, he's an avid coyote hunter. And, hey, Rick, when goes to the Big Creek hunt some coyotes, and he will tell you flat out, I have lost nothing over there. And that has to be the last time that anyone had seen or heard of it.

And then the farm got sold, went out of business, and all the land was separated off and sold. And no one's been back over there. Yeah, and I apologize. I think I got you out of chronological order because there was a last incident where you saw it. But I know as far as being the final incident before the property was sold, this happened. When you were talking to your uncle and his friend, did they describe what they were, what they ran into? They said it was a upright creature walked like a human and was big, was described it the same as I did, seven, eight foot tall. and they said when it it was coming towards them at a speed they have never seen anything move before

and they said that it was sound like it was tearing trees down as it was coming to them yeah i've met a few uh vietnam veterans and they're tough guys they remind me a lot of the war war two generation uh but most guys come in you know most veterans from vietnam um they're they're very, very tough souls. And for him to never want to go back there, I mean, that that pretty much tells you everything you need to know. You know, I want to go back to that first incident. When you saw it come out of the tree line and you asked your uncle, you know, what is this

saying? And, you know, he says, well, it's been here for a long time. Did he ever sit down with you and talk about what he had seen or what he thought it was? No, but my cousin and my brother did. As I told you yesterday, my uncle lived two football fields from where his location was in an old farmhouse. And my brother and my cousin, you know, like I said, were my age, 15, 16. They were in my cousin's bedroom, which was the back bedroom in the house. Well, behind the house, there's an old tobacco barn on one side of the driveway.

And then the other side of driveway, there's like a small tractor lean-to shed. And this driveway came right by their house and went down into a cornfield behind my uncles. And my brother and my cousin said they were in his, in my cousin's back bedroom one night. And they heard the dogs raising cane and said they looked at his back bedroom window, which had an old street light behind the house and lit up the backyard, you know, pretty good amount. And said they seen something walk up the driveway out of the cornfield, like towards the house. And then it turned right and went in the old tractor, old tractor shed, which didn't have any, it was just an open front, no doors on it. And the dogs went in and the tractor shed behind it, like was going to attack.

it. And this thing was throwing the dogs. Just like my cousin and my brother said, it seemed like it was just toying with these dogs, just throwing them like a rock. And I guess, you know, they said it had enough. It came out of the tractor shed and walked up and came by my cousin's bedroom window. and they said they have never seen, at first they said they thought it was a bear. And then whenever it came by my cousin's bedroom window, they said there is no way that that could be a bear. I've never, they've never seen a bear walk on two legs like that. And when it passed the bedroom window, my cousin and my brother said that it's, that thing's head was higher than the top of his bedroom. bedroom window. And it walked bipedal, like a human. But it walked and it swayed. Just as I described

seeing it my first time, it walked and it swayed. And then it crossed the ballboard fence and went back down into the cornfield. And the next day, my brother and my cousin says that they walk the backwoods behind their house and seen no sign of it. Don't know what it is. And I've, you know, and I've heard people say that, you know, they've encountered dead animals ripped apart. I've never, I've been all through those woods, you know, I've never seen a dead animal out of place, you know.

You'll come upon maybe a stray dog every once in a while that's been shot by a farmer, but, you know, it's, it isn't ripped apart or anything and that such. Yeah, I was curious if it had ever come up to the home. They usually will make their way up to home and make their presence known. I mean, it's creepy and it's fascinating, you know, that all of this is going on. And, you know, I wanted to ask you, you, you had made a comment when you guys were being surrounded that sound like there was multiple creatures talking. So there obviously wasn't just one on this property. I think there was more than one because the time it was circling everyone hunting,

there was something off to the right that was gibberish and jibber jabber and the same thing that this thing circling us was making. And the whole time it was circling around us, it was making this just chattering communication talk. And then off to the right in the distance where the old, the old log barns were at, you could hear something up on the hill making like the same vocalizations. And so, you know, and from my personal opinion, there were more than one. But, you know, I always heard or seen one of the other. You know, anytime I encountered them, you never encountered two of them together.

Yeah, and I wanted to ask you about that gibberish. You know, when you listen to the Sierra Sounds by Ron Morehead, and Ron is gracious enough to allow me to use it in the intro, but there's two different vocalizations that you hear. You'll hear where Ron is mimicking them, and they try to mimic Ron, and you can tell the creature's talking slower than it normally does. As you listen to the whole recording,

I'll dig it up and play it for you in a second. There's another one where no one was around but the creatures and they had set up food for them to take. And it sounds like they get in an argument, but the speech pattern is much faster. Was it like that when you heard them talking back and forth? Correct. One of them is like that.

And the other one is just like a, if you listen to it, it almost sounds like a it's hard to explain it's almost like a talk and a laugh at the same time and then the other one it would jibber

and then it would be like a a whistle behind it and then it would do it again and then you would hear the whistle behind it knowing that the creature was back there and you know I would go back there my family would say I go back

there just to antagonize it But I would go back there every time to see if, you know, if I could get a better view of it, maybe take my chances and see exactly how close I can get to it. Yeah, and that's kind of what I was telling you, Tracy, off the air. I think this creature had known you. It had seen you many times because of your curiosity of wanting to go back there. Here is the gibberish I was talking about. So in this clip, you'll hear where Ron is mimicking and the creatures, they're trying to mimic each other.

But listen to the speech pattern. It's very slow. It sounds like he talks to those and they talk each other. And this other clip, again, is from Ron Moorhead, the Sierra Sounds. And this all happened in the same area. But there was no one around these creatures. They had set up these food areas for them. And Ron says he thinks they were fighting over the food.

but when you listen to the speech pattern of them talking back and forth, for me anyway, it sounds like it's a different type of speech when they're talking to each other as opposed to trying to talk to us. When you heard that gibber, was it more like that first one or was it more like that second one? It was the fast. Yeah, it's interesting. So you heard more of that faster gibber and I've often wondered, a lot of times the last guy witnesses, especially when they hear two of them talking, I'll play the slower Sierra sounds,

and they'll say, no, it was much faster than that, but it kind of sounds like that. And then when I play this clip, almost everyone that's heard them talk back and forth, they'll say it's that real fast gibber. I want to talk about the last time that you ran into the creature. I know you had talked about the last time anyone had seen it, but there was an incident, and you mentioned it earlier, where you saw in the daytime. Tell me what happened. Me and my cousin and, well, actually, it was me and two of my cousins, but my cousin, Timmy, he was a lot younger than us.

You know, he was probably 10, 9, 10 years old. We were back there, and we were riding four-wheelers and dirt bikes. And we had rode across the creek behind the cornfield and had ridden up a old roadbed to, I mean, mentioned earlier, the old, like, log buildings, just to, you know, venture out, being, you know, being young, young boys to see if we could see anything, footprints or anything like that, because after the first time I had seen it, it's kind of, it's kind of odd that late night we turn on the TV and the movie Legend of Boggy Creek comes on.

And whenever I hear that scream, I tell my cousin right then, that's what's at the creek. So then we're on four-wheelers and dirt bikes going to the old log barns. And we stopped to take a break and kill the engines. And we hear this noise way off in the distance. And my cousin said, I think that's it. So we sat there for a little while, and I say, you know, just give it time. you know, if it wants to be seen, it must be, you know, it must be wanting to be seen. So it'll come to us.

My little cousin, he says, you know, hey, what's that going across the field, you know, we're up on a hill. There's no leaves on a tree so you can see clear across the field. And we see it come out of the edge of the woods and, like, dart across the field. and when it runs, the sound of its feet hitting the ground kind of sounds like a big bass drum on a marching band. It's just a deep, hard thump. And it has a clear view of it running across the field, you know. Back then and this time, you know, that's before the young teens had even had a cell phone.

So, you know, as far as going out there and taking a picture of it, we did a razor phone. We didn't even know what a razor phone was at that time. But, you know, we seen it that day. We heard the noise. And then my cousin, the little cousin, had happened to see it run across the field. And then we decided, hey, it might be time for us just to go home. Yeah. And I know this is the last time that you saw the creature before moving.

And you'd mentioned your uncle and his friend had seen it. then surely after that you guys sold the farm. But all the times you had seen it before, it was like an outline or a little bit better than an outline. But here you are in the daytime. Can you kind of describe what you saw? And how far away from you is it? We're probably a thousand yards from it. And it's just run like a human.

But you can see it's long strides. just long strides and his arms are kind of down beside it, kind of like a skiing motion. In the midst of running, you could see its hair, just long, stringy, rusty-looking copper hair just float up and come down, float up and come down. And it ran, the whole time it ran, it would like look to its left and look to its right, but it didn't just only turn its head.

it would turn its shoulders each time too. Like something was wrong and it just couldn't turn its head. It would turn its like upper body to like look around. And then it hit the wind row. And that was the last time we'd seen it that day. And my little cousin, he got scared. And that's when we decided, you know, we probably just need to go home. Yeah.

And it makes me wonder, I know we're going back, you know, 20, 25 years, but it makes me wonder if it's still there. I want to ask you some follow-up questions, but before I do that, I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? And there's no wrong answer. I'm just curious, what do you think it is?

I think Sasquatch is a, I don't want to call it an animal, but in some sorts, it has animal characteristics, but it also has human characteristics. I think it's a bipedal creature that not a lot, few and far and few between people have encountered. Yeah, and I think that's a fair answer. I know it's a very difficult question to answer, Tracy.

I mean, you could give a million different answers, and I really appreciate your feedback on it. I wanted to ask you, when you guys were running along the hay bales and you guys had seen the creature, Two questions I wanted to ask you about that. Do you think the creature followed you guys in? Because I kind of got the impression it was already there. And then my second question is, you know, when you break your ankle, why do you think it didn't harm you? I don't think it had any intentions of harming any of us. I believe, you know, if it wanted to harm us, it would have been done back in the early 90s.

it would have been done way before that when my brother and my cousin were teenagers and they discovered. I think it would have, you know, if it really wanted to attack, it would have done it way before my time. And to answer your other question, we came in with three or four cars. You know, there's headlights going everywhere in this field. And when you pull in, the headlights just shine straight across. the field and into the woods. You know, I think it may have already been in the process of coming out of the woods, maybe to cross the field to go to another field, and it's seen all of the commotion

and just kind of hunker down to not attract any attention. And me and Charlie just so happened to pick the right spot and flock down those hay bales. Yeah, it's a dangerous position to pull yourself that close. close to a predator. And you know, any other major predator, if it really wanted you, it would have came for you. This thing really didn't do that. The other thing, too, I mean, you have a busted ankle. You're laying there on the ground.

I mean, you're pretty much easy pickings at that point, but it didn't do anything. I was easy pickings. Because from where I broke my ankle to the car was probably 50 yards. I remember running on my broke ankle for 15, 20 feet before I lay down and told my buddy Charlie, hey, just go. Just let it get me. I belly crawled until I figured out, hey, I have to get up and get gone. And I stood up on my good foot and hobbled the rest of the way to the car. Yeah, you handled that situation way better than I would have.

And, you know, you'd made a comment earlier how this has really impacted your life. And how has this affected your life? Because you are, from a very young man, you're running into this thing, your family's talking about it. And then your family sells a property and it's over with. But how did it kind of affect you afterwards? It affected me because I carry it with me every day. I try to get it out there and tell people about it. And you just got your, everybody wants, everyone wants to be naysayers, you know.

No, that's not real. Bigfoot isn't real. Sasquod is real. Aliens aren't real. And I know deep in my heart, I know what I encountered. I know what I went through in my childhood. Yeah, I always say it's fun and games and jokes until you're. run into one and then it's no longer funny. I admire you, though. I think that the way you handled

this whole thing is better than I would have ever handled it, especially at the age that you were. And I could see you going out there trying to find it, you know, when when others aren't around. It's a real strange topic because when you look at their behavior, you would think this thing could kill you in two seconds. It's bigger, faster, stronger. You have no advantage over it. And here you are a young man. You fall off this hay and you break your ankle. It could have killed you and it didn't.

It just walked back into the wood line. I find their behavior fascinating. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share your history of growing up and your family's encounters. And I really enjoyed chatting with you, Tracy. Thank you so much for coming on. I thank you, Wes, for having me.

I really do. I appreciate it. I appreciate you listening, you know, it means a lot to me. Thanks again, Tracy. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out, Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.