Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas - AMA | December 2023
Episode Date: December 4, 2023Welcome to the December 2023 Ask Me Anything episode of Mindscape! These monthly excursions are funded by Patreon supporters (who are also the ones asking the questions). We take questions asked by ...Patreons, whittle them down to a more manageable number -- based primarily on whether I have anything interesting to say about them, not whether the questions themselves are good -- and sometimes group them together if they are about a similar topic. Enjoy! Blog post with questions and transcript: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/12/04/ama-december-2023/ Link to the article referenced about time travel in movies: Ars Technica. There will be no AMA in January due to holiday break. Mindscape Big Picture Scholarship. Support Mindscape on Patreon.
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Welcome to the December 2023 Ask Me Anything Edition of the Mindscape podcast. I'm your host, Sean Carroll.
So I will confess that I thought that maybe we would have some more anyway questions this month
that were instigated by the recent spicy controversial podcasts that we had.
You know, I did that solo episode on artificial intelligence, and indeed online that got a lot
of responses, both very, very positive and very, very negative.
And it just reminds me that I am not built.
I'm not cut out for controversy on the internet.
You know, which is weird to me because I love academic controversy.
I love, you know, talking to people who have thoughtful opinions about things.
But as I mentioned before, it is to those of you who are not in academia or not in the good parts of academia anyway.
There is a difference with how disagreement happens.
You know, academic disagreements can get very heated, very personal, very irrational sometimes.
But for the most part, when you give a talk or you write a paper or whatever, people can entirely
absolutely strongly disagree, and yet do so in a way that is constructive, you know, that is
offering, here are the reasons for my disagreement, et cetera. That doesn't happen as much on the
internet, and it just makes me sad to get completely unhelpful kinds of disagreement. Let's just put it
that way. But also, I got some very constructive comments, so that was very useful. Not that
many questions about that stuff in the AMA, though. Likewise, we had the even more controversial
episode with Derek Guy talking about fashion and the theory and practice of it. There, it was just
much more hilarious because people reacted very negatively to it without, before they even
could possibly listen to it. You know, I know that when you react to a podcast a minute after it's
been posted that probably you haven't actually listened to it. And again, the responses were remarkably
not very thoughtful for that one. Again, we had very good responses, but there were a lot of like,
oh, you've lost your way, what kind of nonsense is this, this is not why I'm here, cancel my
subscription, you know, that kind of thing, which I've gotten since the very beginning of doing
Mindscape, through the very beginning of talking in public, people have been disappointed in me
that I have not talked about the things that they wanted me to talk about. And I'm going to keep
disappointing them. But it doesn't just roll off my back. It does make me sad that we get those
kinds of responses. That's too bad. I thought the episode was great, and I hope that the people who
listened to it actually learned something about the theory behind this kind of frivolous occupation
that we call dressing well. What we did get this month, and as you'll see, is a bunch of questions
about the usual topics, most especially quantum mechanics, which leads me to mention that I have a
new course out through Wondrium slash the Great Courses.
Wondrium and the Great Courses is the same company, the company that used to be called
the Teaching Company.
I basically did a course on quantum mechanics based on my book, something deeply hidden.
So we'll talk both about quantum mechanics in general, but also about the many worlds
interpretation in particular.
And there were some things I did for the teaching company course that I did not do in the
book.
There's a little bit on quantum computing.
There's more on sort of ethics.
and the meaning of many worlds, things like that,
a little bit on immersion space time, and so forth.
So it's 24 lectures, half an hour each,
slickly produced by the people at the teaching company.
And I think the only difference,
I'm not even sure I understand this,
but I think the difference between the teaching company label
and the Wondrium label is whether it's streaming
or whether you buy the DVDs.
So go to either Wondrium, that's W-O-N-D-R-I-U-M,
or the great courses.
I've been saying the teaching company,
the great courses,
and you can get the course, I think,
I don't know whether it's still true
by the time you'll hear this,
but there was at some point a Black Friday sale.
Anyway, so much knowledge for so little money
that it's worth it no matter what they are charging for it.
It's a different modality, right?
Like some people like reading words on pieces of paper,
some people like listening to audio,
some people like watching videos, et cetera.
So if you like watching the videos and seeing the explanations with nice, slick animations and so forth, this could be the course for you.
Likewise, I wanted to mention two other things, bookkeeping things.
One, of course, is that these Ask Me Anything episodes are sponsored by supporters on Patreon.
Anyone can be a supporter on Patreon.
You can just go to patreon.com slash Sean M. Carroll and chip in a dollar or whatever per episode of Mindscape.
You know, it's much easier than you think to just sign up for Patreon,
give a little dollar here and there, not just to me, but to other creators and so forth.
It's a nice thing to do.
You can always get Minescape for free if you listen to the ads, but if you're on Patreon,
you get an ad-free version, you get to ask the AMA questions.
You also get little reflection videos that I do after each episode.
So a tremendous deal at patreon.com slash Sean M. Carroll.
And the other thing to mention is the M.K.'ske
Big Picture Scholarship, which is still ongoing, which you can either donate to, if you're at that
stage of your life, or apply for if you are a high school senior, which is at bold.org, that's
b-o-d.org slash scholarships slash mindscape. And I think that we're already funded to give out one
scholarship this year, and we're very close to being able to give out two. So that would be
awesome. So if you could kick in, we would go over the target to be able to give out.
two scholarships, that's $10,000 to someone who wants to go to college to study very difficult
big picture questions, which is what we're all about here. And if you want to apply for that
scholarship, please do the application deadline is December 15, 2023. And with that, I think that's
all the bookkeeping we've got to do, so let's go. Our first question is from Rue Phillips. I loved
the graphic your wife put out recently showing the entertainment value versus scientific value of
time travel movies. Movie making has always been fascinating for me, and I know you've been
involved in multiple productions. I would love to hear from you about your favorite and least
favorite movie making experiences. And if you feel generous about answering a follow-up, I'm very
curious what you would do differently if there was a new Pride and Prejudice adaptation. So what
Rue was referring to is that Jennifer and I did our first written collaboration. We do have a talk
that we gave together. We sort of tag a team to talk on Black Holes at the Royal Institution.
in London. That was a lot of fun, but we've actually never written anything together. We've
certainly commented on and helped edit and shape each other's individual writings, but we've
never collaborated until now. We co-wrote a story for Ars Technica, which is where Jennifer is
a staff writer. So you can go to Ars Technica, look for time travel, and what we did was we
took 20 time travel movies, and we ranked them, not ranked, but rated them, let's put it
that way, on a zero to ten scale, on both how successful they were as movies, that's one axis
of the plot. The other axis is how much sense they make as time travel. So that second axis
means both is the time travel more or less scientifically respectable, but also does it make logical
sense? You know, even if you just disappear in a puff of smoke and reappear at a different time,
which is not very scientifically respectable,
you can still be internally consistent, right?
And that's the kind of logical points that we gave,
and especially if you used time travel
in a very deep and important way.
You know, again, we didn't go for controversy here.
We were trying to celebrate the movies that did it well.
Twelve monkeys does it exceptionally well.
Interstellar got some points,
but also lost some points for the weirdness at the end.
And Star Trek, the Voyage Home does remarkably well on these, at least on the scientific time travel kind of axis.
I also thought it was actually quite a good movie.
So you can read about those rankings.
We had a lot of fun with that.
And of course, we get controversy.
You know, we don't look for the controversy.
The controversy came in one part that we expected and one part that we didn't.
One part that we expected was that neither one of us really liked the movie Primer.
And I know this is going to raise people's hackles because it's a cult classic and the people who love that movie really, really love it. But we neither loved it that much as a story nor as a time travel logic thing. The time travel and primer is extremely convoluted and there's a lot going on, which I think gives people the impression that it's kind of deep. But I don't think it actually is very deep. I mean, it does use time travel to, that's very much the point in the movie. It's not.
just a little side device, obviously. So it gets points for that. But at the end of the day,
it does the usual kind of time travel logic mistakes about changing the past and not having
things be perfectly consistent, et cetera. So sorry, Primer fans. We wanted to like it, really,
but it didn't quite work out. The weird thing that I wasn't expecting is that in our list of 20
movies, we did not include time bandits. And people got very upset about that. And I will tell you
right here right now, we watched Time Bandits for this purpose. We thought it was going to be on
our list. But the thing is, Time Bandits doesn't really use time travel in any intimate way.
Time travel is in the movie, that's true, but it's just an excuse to sort of be a fantasy,
escaping to different parts of the world by escaping to different moments in time, right?
It didn't actually have any commentary on affecting the past or going to the future,
or loops or anything like that.
That wasn't actually there in Time Bandits.
And in fact, by the end, it's just obviously over-the-top fantasy,
having nothing to do with time travel at all.
So that's why we didn't do Time Bandits.
Sorry Time Bandits fans.
Look, it's a list of things on the Internet.
What is the point of lists of things on the Internet,
if not to disagree with them
and put in your own opinions in the comments?
You're welcome to do that.
As far as the actual question that Rue is asking,
I don't want to say, you know, what my least favorite movie making experiences are.
I've absolutely had experiences where I did a certain amount of work, you know, collaborated with a writer or director or whatever, and it never came to anything.
That's kind of frustrating sometimes, but that's very much the way that Hollywood works.
You know, I think I mentioned before back in my youth, I had ambitions to maybe someday write a screenplay or collaborate or something like that.
But these days, I don't think I would be interested in doing that anymore because it's just a way.
weird business model that Hollywood has where you put a tremendous amount of work into things,
then you get literally nothing to show for it. And I'm not even talking about the recent spate
of studios making the whole movie and then just not releasing them for some weird tax write-off
purposes. I'm just, you know, talking about the very, very common thing where as a writer in
Hollywood, you put a lot of work into a screenplay. You're paid to do it even, and then nothing
ever comes of it. Very, very frustrating. In terms of favorite examples, actually, I think my
favorite experience there was on the TV show Bones. And again, I've talked about this before,
but it was a long time ago. There was a wonderful episode written where Richard Schiff,
who played Toby on the West Wing, played a physicist on Bones. And his daughter got murdered,
and I'm not going to give away any spoilers or anything like that, but he was a suspect.
and part of the reason why he was a suspect is because they portrayed him as a slightly stereotypical physicist without a lot of social skills.
So he didn't act as upset about his daughter getting killed as the investigators thought he should have.
But then he finally managed to capture his love for his daughter in a series of equations, almost like a little poem in the form of equations.
And so I got to write the equations and I got to write the blackboards and I got to write
other, some other lines of dialogue when, uh, the character was talking about physics and so forth.
So the characters, Richard Schiff's characters, most recent paper bore a tremendously
resemblance to a paper that I had recently written. Let's just put it that way. So that was fun.
I actually got to be on set while they were filming it and everything, much more involvement
in TV than at the, at the movie level. Like movies are, you know, huge industrial efforts these
days, right? So I've never been on a movie set. And the writers on a movie have much less effect on
what you actually finally see as the product than they do in TV. TV is a writer's medium.
Movies are more a director's medium, if not a studio's medium. So writers for TV are the ones
who are important, which is just not true in the movie world. As far as Pride and Prejudice is
concerned, my advice would be, do not adapt Pride and Prejudice. It's already been
done more or less perfectly by the BBC with Jennifer L. and Colin Firth. You don't need to adapt
Pride and Prejudice ever again. Next two questions I'm going to group two together. One is by
Tise Janssen, who says, in the past, you mentioned or maybe in some way even recommended David
Wallace's book, The Emergent Multiverse, for a deeper dive into Everettian quantum mechanics. But I get
stuck, especially the parts beginning with, as you recall from your quantum mechanics textbooks.
These are hard to understand for me because I never had one.
There's a huge apparent required knowledge gap between your quantum mechanics books and this one.
Can you recommend a way to bridge that gap?
I don't mind to do some work for it, but I don't feel motivated to do unguided self-study
with a Copenhagen quantum mechanics textbook.
And then Chris Murray says,
The first biggest ideas book features an essentially complete description of what general relativity is,
which, though unaccompanied by many of the tools needed to actually work with it, is tremendously insightful.
Will the second book provide similarly complete descriptions of quantum mechanics or quantum field theory, or would that be too much?
So I'm grouping these two questions together because they both involve the book that I just finished copy editing, which is Quanta and Fields.
That's going to be Book 2 of the biggest ideas in the universe series, going to come out in May 2024.
And it is, just like Book 1, the idea is to be popular science, to explain things to everyone,
who's interested, not just to professional physicists, but to show you all the equations.
And it's interesting because for Tise's question, I don't know whether that will be a good
background, but probably it's the best thing I can think of, you know, some linear combination
of that book and the Suskind series, Lenny Suskin series on the theoretical minimum. He has a
book on quantum mechanics. His book on quantum mechanics is more sort of traditional, right? Straightforward.
Here is how we would do quantum mechanics if you were learning quantum mechanics as an undergraduate,
but without necessarily quite as much detail as if you were officially a physics student,
so it's a little bit easier to get through.
Whereas my book, because it tries, so Lenny has a whole book on quantum mechanics.
My one little book is doing both quantum mechanics and quantum field theory.
So all of quantum mechanics happens in just the first three chapters, and you know,
there's 12 chapters total.
So most of it is quantum field theory, which leads me to Chris's question, which is,
is the level of detail, is the level of completeness the same in the quantum field theory book
as it is in the general relativity book?
Well, no, is the short answer.
And I say this right at the beginning, you know, try to be very upfront about it.
When you do relativity and classical mechanics, you can, even in a relatively short book,
basically give all of the equations in complete detail.
You won't, like I said, like Chris said, correctly,
the goal is not to try to solve the equations, so that's okay,
but you should at least understand exactly what's in all of the equations.
In quantum field theory, quantum field theory is just a much larger subject
than general relativity is.
General relativity, despite its intimidating reputation,
is relatively self-contained,
and the number of ideas is relatively small,
whereas quantum field theory is enormous.
I mean, just the idea of a quantum field
is more or less the same amount of content
as the idea of general relativity.
But then you have to get in the different types of fields.
You have spinner fields and gauge fields and scalar fields.
You have to get into renormalization and effective field theory.
You have to get into symmetries, gauge symmetries, and group theory.
You have to get into the different phases of quantum field theory.
so you have Higgs phase and Kulam phase and confined phase, and you have to do all of that stuff,
not to mention explaining what Feynman diagrams are and interactions are and so forth.
So there's a lot you have to do.
There are a lot of equations.
Honestly, the density of equations is maybe a little bit higher in book two than in book one.
And the equations are correct ones, okay?
But not every detail is there in the same way that it is in the relativity book.
Just as one example, when you do fermions in quantum field theory.
So a fermion is spin one-half particles, particles that take up space and obey the Pali exclusion principle,
like electrons and quarks and neutrinos and so forth.
If you were a student learning quantum field theory, there's a lot of effort that goes into
understanding the mathematical structure of the fields representing fermions.
So they are called spinner fields.
They have certain indices.
They behave a certain way under Lorentz transformations.
They involve things like Pauley spin matrices and direct matrices.
They anti-commute with each other at the mathematical level.
None of that stuff is going to appear in the book.
But things like the mass term and the kinetic term and the interaction term for fermions with gauge fields,
and also things like the spin statistics connection and why particles with spin
and one-half are fermions and take up space.
All of those conceptual things are there.
So the difference in book two is I really tried to focus in on the concepts.
To the extent that sometimes the best way to focus in on the concepts was to make the equations a little bit simpler in this book
than they would be in an actual textbook.
So for those of you who are experts out there, things like Fierts identities,
are not going to appear in this book. But hopefully, I really think that, you know, there's still
enough notation in there that it will look weird and intimidating if you're not used to it. So I encourage
people to give it a try. And if you do give it a try, you will actually come away knowing what is
actually meant by things like gauge symmetry, renormalization, the Higgs mechanism, things like
that. So it's a fine line that I'm trying to balance there in that.
book, we'll have to see whether it's successful or not.
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Robert Ruxendrescue says, for two or even three years, my sister didn't want to stop eating.
And she didn't like walking or doing any physical work, not even for her health.
She just ate and stood in bed speaking to people on the phone.
because of this, she got heavier and heavier and her oxygen levels started to go down dramatically
until we found her dead in her bed a few weeks ago. I could probably have saved her if I and my
family would have put tremendous amount of effort into this. Also, she would have survived if violence
would have been used. She said that for a handful of times, she just didn't care if she lives
and she just wants to eat. My question is this. How do you navigate these complex issues?
How do you determine if you should use violence to save someone, for example, or if violence is simply unacceptable?
So I'm really, really sorry to hear about this, Robert. I mean, Robert has been a long-time supporter of Minescape and asks a lot of great questions in the AMAs over the years.
This sounds like a really, really difficult thing to go through for everyone involved. So I'm sorry to hear about it, and I hope that you're doing okay.
And the issues are complex. There's no simple answers here in my mind.
And it depends on a lot of things that I don't know.
So at some level, you have to navigate these things as a human being rather than, you know,
hoping to find some clear, crisp, algorithmic answers.
I think what it comes down to is autonomy and responsibility, right?
I'm a big believer that different people, at least as long as they are responsible and in their right minds,
should have the autonomy to do with their lives and their bodies and their brains what they want to do.
For example, in a slightly different example, but a related one, it often is the case that when people get older, when they get very old, they want to do things that are maybe considered unacceptably risky by their children or their caretakers or whatever.
And generally my perspective is that they should be allowed to do that.
It's their lives, and they should be allowed to do it.
The question, the reason why that becomes complicated is because sometimes it's not just risky, but genuinely self-destructive, these kinds of behaviors.
And then it is perfectly reasonable to ask, is the person engaging in these self-destructive behaviors, are they actually of sound mind as well as body?
Or are they struggling with some mental illness or something that could be cured?
either medication or therapy or something like that. And I don't know, and I'm sure that it's hard
for anyone to know the question like that. At a philosophical level, the question is, who is
responsible? When is a person, when do they deserve to have the right to make choices about
themselves? You know, someone who is an addict, for example, a drug addict, or someone who, you know,
clearly has a kind of specific mental illness that leads them to be incapable of making decisions,
then I can see other people intervening in some way. I don't, you know, I'm not quite sure why
the word violence is necessarily here, but certainly intervening in someone's life to save their
lives, even if it's against their will, is absolutely allowed under certain circumstances.
But under other circumstances, I think that people have the right to decide.
And even if that decision is to let themselves go or even end their lives, I think that that should be something that people have the right to do.
But again, there's just no easy answers here.
The only thing I would say is don't be too hard on yourself for whatever might have happened.
It's not like you made a mistake.
It's not like there was some clearly right thing to do and you didn't have the guts to do it.
The point is that someone else, your sister, was making choices.
and the default should be to let people make the choices, even if they're not the choices you want them to make.
I can imagine circumstances under which it is useful and necessary to step in and intervene,
but those are the exceptions rather than the rules.
So don't be too hard on yourself.
You know, things happen.
Sometimes terrible things happen.
Sometimes tragic things happen.
Sometimes preventable tragedies happen, even if everyone is doing the right thing at every point along the way.
So sorry to hear that that had to happen. I hope that you sort of can sort through it and move on. Again, I don't think that you personally seems like did anything wrong whatsoever.
Sid Huff says, you have noted that democracy in the United States is under threat. If worse came to worse, an American democracy collapsed. Would you and Jennifer consider moving to another country, assuming appropriate professional opportunities presented themselves? I do think that,
that American democracy is under serious threat. I think that we are not as a culture, as a
nation. We're not taking that threat nearly seriously enough. I go on about it. I guess that's
something to do. It's not very effective, but it's a little bit. And so would we leave the country?
It certainly wouldn't be my first choice. I could imagine doing it under certain circumstances,
but what I would rather do is stay and try to fix things, try to fight, try to make things better.
You know, I'm in a position where it's easier for me. It would be hard for us to pick up and move for various reasons.
Friends, house, job, all the usual things. We're very, very established at a certain part of our lives.
You know, we're not just picking up and moving kind of people right now, but we have the resources to imagine doing it, whereas other people don't even have those resources.
And it seems not quite fair to me to abandon those people when times get tough.
So I don't know what it would mean to resist and to keep fighting against it, et cetera.
But that would be my first desire.
That would be my first inclination is to try to make things better.
You know, democracies do come and go.
And if they go, they could possibly be brought back.
Again, I don't know how to do that, but I would like to think that I would try.
Nick C. says, there was a recent article in the Washington Post talking about how John Klauser,
who recently won the Nobel Prize for quantum mechanics experiments, is a vocal climate denier,
news which disappointed me quite a bit. From what I can tell, his objections are not terribly credible.
I guess I'm curious for any thoughts you have on that particular situation, or the general situation,
where professional physicists go on to become crackpots in other fields,
at what seems to me to be an above-average rate compared to other scientists. Why does that happen?
Well, I don't know why it happens.
You know, this is compatible with the perspective that I previously suggested that you shouldn't have heroes, because people can be really good at certain things and really bad at other things.
And I don't know whether physicists go on to become crackpots at a higher rate than average.
But some of them do become crackbots.
That's absolutely true.
It shouldn't be completely surprising.
Let's put it that way.
The reason why it shouldn't be completely surprising is it would be a mistake to think there is something called general purpose smartness.
There just isn't.
There are different kinds of smartness, and common sense is one of them.
An ability to judge different sources of evidence is another.
An ability to do very, very precise, accurate physics experiments is a very different one than either one of those.
So physics is perhaps, you know, the most hyper-specialized of the sciences. It's the most advanced science. And I don't mean that as bragging. It's the easiest science, as I've often said. The questions that physics asks are very deep and very profound, but they're also easier to address and make progress on than questions in biology or psychology or things like that. So as a result, you can be a super successful physicist.
with a rather narrow skill set, with being really, really good at one very particular thing,
you can be a Nobel Prize winning physicist.
There's zero reason to think that that particular skill set should generalize to other hard problems.
And as a result, you see plenty of people who are highly credentialed physicists,
whose opinion about issues that are not within physics are completely bonkers.
and climate change is one of them.
Climate change is absolutely one
where a number of physicists
who are very successful
have found it more attractive
to be saucy contrarians
than to actually just get the right answer,
which is pretty darn clear at this point.
So I don't know exactly
whether physicists are more likely to do that than others,
but I do think it makes sense
that you can be a super successful physicist
and also bonkers on other things.
There are physicists who are believers
in parapsychology or whatever, you know.
Physicists should be, well, let's put it this way.
I once had, I was talking when I was a postdoc about some philosophy question with one of my
physics professors, and we were in my office, and there was a, I think it was like the
Feynman Lectures on Physics was on my desk, and the professor was arguing me about
this philosophy question and said, like, you know, what would Richard Feynman say about
philosophy. And I said, look, I will take very, very seriously whatever Richard Feynman has to say
about physics, about theoretical physics, quantum field theory, quantum mechanics in particular.
I see zero reason to take seriously what Richard Feynman has to say about anything else at all.
I'm sure that sometimes he's right. I'm sure that sometimes he's wrong, just like any other human
being. But the ability to be really, really, really, really good at quantum field theory does not
give you any special expertise in anything else. Now, I absolutely realize I'm opening myself up
to being criticized because I talk about all sorts of things, right? And what I would say is,
yes, I do talk about all sorts of things, just like Richard Feynman did. And Richard Feynman
has every right, as does John Klauser, to talk about whatever they want. So do I. But you
shouldn't believe what I have to say about climate change or politics or religion or what
John Klauser says or Richard Feynman says just because we're physicists. If you believe or don't
believe, do so because what we're saying makes sense and comports with the data and your
understanding of the arguments and things like that. I'm going to keep talking about all sorts of
things, but you should think about it, not just believe what I say because I'm a physicist. Not that
anyone ever has, but just to point out, I am not asking you to do that.
John Capstan asks a priority question.
Remember that if you are a Patreon supporter, then you get to ask a priority question once per lifetime.
I'm going to just trust that no one abuses the privilege and tries to sneak in with different
names or anything like that.
And with the priority questions, I will do my best to answer them.
So John asks, imagine that a spin-up particle is spit into spin-left and spin-left and spin-
right components. The components interact with two quantum computers, whose operation is then
reversed so that when the spin components are brought together again, we recover the original
spin-up state. Is it true that the quantum computers cannot be acting as conscious observers
measuring their respective spin components? Because if they did, then we would have ended up with a spin-left
and spin-right particle rather than a spin-up particle. So this is a somewhat, I'm not completely clear
on the experimental setup here.
So let me say things that I think are true.
If you take a spin-up particle, as John says,
you can measure its spin,
so it's spin up along the Z-axis, let's say,
but you measure it spin along the X-axis.
You measure it in some axis that is perpendicular
to how it is originally oriented.
So you will get it 50-50 split
between spin-left and spin-right.
And you can do that,
and you have to be careful.
You don't want to measure it,
but you can split it.
So you can send it through a magnetic field, and then you have a component that is going spin left, a component that's going spin right, but you don't actually measure either one of them.
You just know that that's what they're doing because you understand the rules of quantum mechanics.
And then you send these spins into a quantum computer, and you process them.
Now, ordinarily, that processing would involve at some point doing a measurement.
And then when you do that measurement, the spin that you had will disappear in one of the two,
apparatuses that you just sent it through. You'll be in one branch of the wave function, the spin only
would have gone into one quantum computer and not into the other. In the other branch, it would have
gone into the other and not the first one. You can invent something that you're going to choose
to call a quantum computer for which no measurement or decoherence or branching happens. So basically,
that's just a fancy way of saying, I have my wave function that has these two different parts to it,
the spin left part and spin right part, I'm going to let those things interact, but not become
entangled with anything that they're dealing with. It is only if they never become entangled
that I could ever bring them back together to get a spin-up particle. Okay. So if they didn't
become entangled with anything, then it's almost as if quantum mechanics is not relevant to
what is happening, right? It has nothing to do with conscious observers. The,
It is true that the correct thing to say is that these two things that you're choosing to call quantum computers,
even though they're not really regular quantum computers, because regular quantum computers do involve measurements.
These two things you're choosing to call as quantum computers did not measure their respective spin components.
So has nothing to do with consciousness.
They just didn't measure them.
They didn't measure them as conscious observers.
They didn't measure them as unconscious observers.
Now, there's a more subtle question.
do you have to do measurements to be a conscious observer?
Well, no one quite agrees on the definition of what a conscious observer is.
I would argue that to be a conscious observer,
you have to participate in the arrow of time.
So you have to generate entropy in the universe
to form memories and things like that.
And therefore, in general, things that you recognize as conscious observers
will be doing measurements, increasing the entropy of the universe.
etc. Something that is completely pristine and reversible would not in general, in my mind,
count as a conscious observer. Shlyer says, in your reflections following the Weenersmith's
podcast, you opine that living is good, life is good, having more life elsewhere in the universe
would be a good thing. Do you think of this as a base-level subjective preference, or does it
reflect some underlying principles such as valuing complexity or joy? Well, I'll confess, I do
Do not think that this is any deep philosophical statement, or it's certainly not an overarching
absolute principle.
It's just a vague feeling.
I think that I personally prefer a universe with living creatures in it.
I'm not going to say that we need to maximize the number of creatures or anything like that,
but I like living.
This is absolutely my subjective preference.
There are people out there who wish there were no living creatures in the universe.
I don't get it.
I know that living creatures do both good.
things and bad things, but overall, I would like there to be living creatures. Yeah, that is a hill
that I will try to defend. Roland Weber says, in chapter six, space time of the biggest ideas
in the universe, volume one, you write, here's an idea. Let's define the energy of an object
and relativity to just be that zeroth component of the four momentum. That felt like it was just dropping
out of the sky. Why can we ignore the three spatial dimensions of the four momentum and just pick the
time dimension here? Well, we're not ignoring the three spatial dimensions at the four momentum.
Those three spatial dimensions have a name already. They are called the momentum. You know, if you
are doing pre-relativity physics, if you're doing Newtonian mechanics, Newtonian mechanics,
Newton wouldn't have said this because he didn't know about these ideas, but if you're doing
Newtonian mechanics before Einstein came along, you would have said there is a three-dimensional
vector called momentum, and there is a scalar quantity, a zero-dimensional
number called energy. So you have four numbers, the one number of energy and the three numbers of
momentum. All that happens in relativity is that those four numbers get combined together to make a four
vector. And the way that they get combined together is that the energy is the zeroth component,
the time-like component of the four momentum, and the ordinary three-dimensional momentum are the
spatial components of the three momentum. It's not just a definition. It's not a definition in any sense.
Well, in some sense it's a definition because, of course, when you go to relativity, the actual formulas for energy momentum get changed a little bit.
They get changed in a way that you wouldn't notice if you were moving slowly compared to the speed of light.
But once you start moving near the speed of light, you begin to notice a lot.
But they all reduce to the usual quantities when you have slow velocities, with, of course, the tiny exception that there is an intrinsic energy to any object that is just sitting there.
namely MC squared. The rest energy of an object is MC squared. But that doesn't really matter in pre-relativity physics because it's just a constant. It doesn't really change with time or anything like that. In relativity, then you can change. You can turn that energy into other forms of energy. So that's why it turns out to be a sensible definition to make, even though it's a definition that is just a generalization to relativistic contexts of the definitions that you already had.
Emmett Francis asks, do all non-rotating black holes have a spherical event horizon?
Short answer is yes.
Of course, there's always a longer answer.
One part of the longer answer is, what do you mean by the word spherical?
In mathematics, we distinguish between topological spheres, which are just sort of a sphere,
but you can deform it smoothly into any shape you want.
So an oblate spheroid would still topologically be a sphere versus geometrically.
a sphere, which I swear to God this is true. The technical term is the round sphere. So a non-rotating
black hole in three non-compact spatial dimensions, plus of course the one-time dimension,
will have a perfectly round spherical eventorizing. If you let the black hole, and that's true
whether it's charged or not charged. If you let the black hole spin, then it becomes an oblate
sphere. So the event horizon is still topologically a sphere, but geometrically, it's not round. By the way,
I'm assuming that we're talking about the event horizon at one moment in time. At the full event horizon
is a surface in space time that is a null surface. It extends in time as well as space and light rays
are exactly parallel to it in the right direction. But anyway, I think that probably what you're
getting at is at any one moment of time in three plus one dimensions with all the dimensions large,
then a non-rotating black hole will indeed have a spherical eventorized. And this is part of the
no-hair theorem for black holes. Basically any black hole is completely, once it settles down and
after it's made, it will be completely characterized by mass, charge, and spin. So if it's not spinning,
it's just characterized by mass and charge. And the full metric is the short shield metric for
uncharged black holes, the risiner-nors-drametric for charged black holes, they both have
spherical event horizons. I keep saying three plus one dimensions because there are weird things
called black strings. If you have a compact extra dimension of space, then you can have a black
hole whose event horizon is kind of like a cylinder in that extra dimension, but those are
subject to various instabilities and it's a subtle question. So the rough answer to this question is,
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about quantum field theory, the mass of a single particle is resulted by an interaction between
an excitation of the Higgs field and an excitation of the electron field. It seems to me that
Higgs field should have positive and negative excitations. If that's correct, theoretically,
can there be a particle with negative mass as a result of the interaction between a negative
excitation of the Higgs field? So, nope, there cannot be a particle with a negative mass. But more
importantly, there's a couple of misconceptions going on here. The mass, so for one thing, super duper
important, and I talk about this a lot in the upcoming book, because people get the wrong impression.
In quantum field theory, there's no rule that says you need a Higgs boson particle or a Higgs field
in empty space in order to get mass. If you think about the history of quantum field theory,
the first really successful one was Dirac and quantum electrodynamics,
which later was even more successful after Feynman and Schwinger and Tominaga, etc.,
showed how to renormalize it.
But there you have a theory that doesn't have any Higgs bosons in it.
It's from the 1930s, and it has electrons and positrons, and they both have mass.
There's no problem at all.
What's up with that?
The issue is that in the specific context of the standard model of particle physics,
and in particular, in the specific context of the weak interactions, as they are understood in the Weinberg-Salem Electroweak Unified Theory,
there there's a very special property, which is that left-handed particles and right-handed particles are treated differently.
This is parity violation, which was unknown in the 1930s.
And it turns out that when you have parity violation of this form, then you cannot have masses for the fermions
without a Higgs mechanism, a Higgs boson in empty space.
So Weinberg figured out how to fix that problem by adding the Higgs boson in.
But that's only because of the specifics of the standard model,
and in particular the parity violation.
So it's not true that just to get mass you need a Higgs,
to get mass in this particular theory
where left and right-handed particles have different symmetries,
then you need the Higgs particle to get a mass.
And the next thing is it's not excitations.
in the Higgs field that give mass to other particles. It's the expectation value, not excitation.
So an excitation is the vibrations over and above what we call the expectation value.
The expectation value is just the average value of the field in empty space.
So that's a positive number. It is unambiguously positive for the Higgs boson.
A fluctuation of the expectation value would make it a little bit less positive or a little more positive, but still positive.
And it's that expectation value that matters. An excitation of the Higgs field gives rise to Higgs boson
particles which play no role at all in getting masses for electrons and things like that. It's only
the average background expectation value that matters. Sandro Stuckey says, science has its experiments,
mathematics has its proofs, but how do philosophers settle an argument? Or do they? Can you tell us a bit
about the process by which philosophical communities you are part of make progress on important
questions. Sure, they have arguments and logic and reason. I mean, the usual way that people
settle arguments. Of course, philosophy is a very, very broad field. There are parts of philosophy
that are very formal, mathematical logic is part of philosophy, and there you literally have a
proof, okay, with the rules of logic expressed in certain ways. There are questions in, you know,
let's take something that we're all very familiar with here, the collapse of the wave function
in quantum mechanics, okay? And it is philosophers who really have insisted that this is not okay,
the sort of traditional physics Copenhagen version of the collapse of the wave function,
because it makes no sense, because it's incomplete, because it's just not well defined. Maybe
something like it is true, but it's not well specified. So a philosopher will say, look,
here is where in your description of what happens in quantum mechanics, you have been unclear.
Here is where you need to be more precise. You need to define what these words mean. It's an argument
using reason and rationality, right? And of course, they might suggest a solution to that.
The philosophers of physics are less good at solving these problems than pointing out when they
exist. In questions like morals and ethics or epistemology or metaphysics, different kinds of fields
will have different standards for what constitutes an argument. But very often, you will see something
like a formal syllogistic argument, arguments by induction or by Bayesian reasoning or something like
that, as well as good old deductions, if p then Q, therefore Q, kinds of things. Very often, you know,
these arguments are informal, which is also true in math, by the way. We all know, well, sorry,
mathematicians have established what it would mean to give a incredibly careful, precise, rigorous
mathematical proof of something, and they never do it. To be really actually precise is just
incredibly unwieldy. And mathematicians all know this. So even though the standards for rigor in a
real math paper are much higher than in physics papers or whatever, they're still not anywhere
close to the quintessence of formalization that, for example, Russell and Whitehead did in,
Russell and Whitehead did in their book Principia Mathematica where they tried to establish
the foundations of arithmetic. And they didn't quite succeed perfectly, but okay, that's a different
question. So, yeah, just the usual way that we make progress on other kinds of arguments.
You know, what are your assumptions, what are your conclusions, did you derive them
carefully? Jesse Rimmler says, in a recent AMA, you said,
that the economic system you prefer is regulated capitalism. You noted that a free market leads
to more efficient pricing and innovation, as opposed to the planned economies found in socialist
systems. The defining feature of capitalism, one could argue, is not the free market, but
private ownership of capital. Capitalist owners decide what to do with profits. Employees rent themselves
out for a wage and have little to no say about how a company operates. In this way,
the capitalist model is fundamentally undemocratic. Of course, socialist systems have been state-run
undemocratic or even totalitarian, but another model in the socialist tradition is the worker-owned
cooperative. This setup extends democracy to the workplace, giving workers the ability to determine
how profits are distributed and how to grow or innovate their companies. I'm curious about your
reactions to these definitions and models. You know, as far as definitions are concerned,
you can define things however you want. It doesn't really matter to me. And also, I guess it rubs
me a little bit the wrong way to say that capitalism is not democratic because there is private
ownership of capital. It's democratic in the sense that there is private ownership of capital,
but anyone can be a capitalist, right? Any person could privately own capital. There's no
intrinsic discrimination in that kind of system. Of course, there's de facto discrimination
because people are not born into equivalent circumstances in the world, and that is absolutely an
issue that you could take, that is a fact that you could take issue with, that you could
disagree with. But the idea that anyone can be a capitalist is what makes it democratic. Also,
I don't care if it's democratic or not. I think that government should be democratic. For an economy,
I want it to serve the purpose of the economy. I want everyone to be well off to the extent that
that is possible. So, but that's just all definitional issues. I think that you're raising a very
interesting, good question about private ownership of capital versus collective ownership of capital.
You know, I'm open to the possibility that this is a good idea. I'm a little bit skeptical
because I'm not sure that this is stable in some sense. You know, this is always one of the
big problems with socialist attempts to reformulate how the economy works is that they tend to be a little
utopian. They tend to say, well, if you have this kind of setup, then everybody will be happier. But the
problem is they propose a setup, and again, I'm not saying this is true. I'm saying this is the thing to
worry about that I would have to see established. They propose a kind of setup that is unstable to
people taking over, right? It's unstable to inequality. You have some kind of equality built into your
system, but the usual workings of the system drive it toward inequality in some way. I don't think it's, you know,
I don't think it's fair to criticize socialism or communism just by pointing to the USSR or the Communist Party of China or other real-world 20th century implementations of things that called themselves communist, because I don't think that they were very true to the ideals that Karl Marx would have noticed.
But I am completely sympathetic to the critique that that kind of lack of fidelity to the original goals is more or less inherent in the system.
That could just be a very natural kind of thing that any attempt to be a traditional communist society will end up in these kinds of anti-democratic, unequal distributions of power and wealth.
Again, I don't know that for sure, but that's what I would worry about.
And again, I think that what matters to me much more is what the effects are.
You know, when it comes to economies, I am pretty consequentialist.
When it comes to governments, I am less consequentialist.
I think that my most important reasons for supporting democracy are more deontological.
I think that people have the right to have a voice in the way their government is run.
I'm less sure that people have a right to own the company that they work for.
you could make the argument, but that's less obvious to me.
And I think that I'll just say it again.
I said it many times.
What we should do is we should tax the bejesus out of people.
We should let people, individuals are motivated.
They're more motivated for their self-interest than for the greater good, on average.
Not always, but on average.
And I think that an economy that is driven by that self-interest can be very, very effective.
And then we let people earn a lot of money and we take a lot of it back to redistribute.
reviewed by the government, that seems like a relatively good system. That's certainly not exactly
what we're doing right now. We're letting people keep a lot of the money far more than any individual
really, really needs, even to be quite successful. T.J. McMorrow says, what is your view on the,
I think, relatively fringe fields of econophysics, socioeysics, and other projects which attempt to
apply physics and or physical principles more or less directly to domains well outside its
standard purview? Well, I love these fields.
I love it when they are done well.
I am completely sympathetic to the idea that often they are not done well.
You know, physicists have a completely earned reputation for thinking that they can waltz into other fields
and clean up all their problems with just a few minutes of work and being spectacularly wrong about that feeling.
Like I said before, there's nothing about being a successful physicist that gives you any special insight into other fields of endeavor.
However, I do think that there are fields, that there are, not fields, but ideas, concepts that
physicists do develop in the very, very simplified contexts that they care about, in the
spherical cow contexts, that can very well be of wider applicability, whether it's ideas of
entropy and friction and momentum, or ideas of networks and interactions.
and energies or ideas of phase transitions and collective behavior and emergence.
There are a lot of ideas that come from physics that could in principle be very applicable
to other areas.
Otherwise, I would not be working on a book called The Physics of Democracy, which is
exactly what I am working on.
I think that it is absolutely the responsibility of anyone who wants to think in these terms
to be very, very careful that the usual simplification
and assumptions the physicists like to make still hold in the context where they are considering things.
They often don't, which is why you have to be more careful when you talk about economy or society or things like that
in terms that physicists would recognize.
Shahil Abdullah says, what is your opinion about cryonics? Do you see any legitimacy or future in it?
Well, I don't think that there is any violation of the laws of physics involved in.
in the idea that we could freeze somebody cryonically and wake them up later on. There are
enormous challenges at a practical level, and I think that we are nowhere close to actually
addressing these challenges. So I think that current ideas, current literal attempts to cryonically
freeze people in the hope of waking them up sometime in the future, are complete quackery,
complete scams, honestly, but maybe in the future it could happen. You know, by all
is something that lots of progress remains to be made. We're nowhere close to figuring it all out,
how to do things. So I can easily see lots of progress along these lines in the future. I have no
idea how fast it would happen. Andrew Goldstein says, do you have any noteworthy discussions you can
share about the classes you've been teaching in the physics of democracy or the philosophy of
physics? Well, I mean, yes and no. I've had lots of noteworthy discussions. I don't like to
discuss the discussions that we have in class outside of class. The classes, for those of you who are
just tuning in, this year and last year, at Johns Hopkins, I've been teaching small seminars for
undergraduates. Last year, I taught a seminar on the physics of democracy, another seminar on the
philosophy of physics. This year, I'm teaching a seminar on philosophical naturalism, and another one
on the arrow of time. So these are not lecture courses. These are courses where I might get up and
talk about something, but mostly we're sitting around the table discussing things. And it's a
different kind of thing. If I stand up and give a lecture, then I'm generally completely okay with
having that lecture recorded or talked about or whatever. That's fine. That's me and I'm supposed
to be prepared. But a seminar is where you're supposed to be responding in the moment, right,
without necessarily having thought about things ahead of time. You're supposed to be working through
ideas. So generally, I don't think that those things should be recorded, either formally or even
talked about afterward. So not trying to avoid your question, Andrew, but I do think that I don't want
to say anything too specific. I will say it's been a lot of fun. You know, I think that this
kind of course is just the quintessence of a university education to me. The idea is, you know,
sitting around a small number of people really grappling with something at a deep, careful level,
and talking with each other about it is just wonderful.
It also doesn't work for everything.
Certainly, it's much more intrinsically successful
on the philosophy side than on the physics side.
On the physics side, we've had very good discussions.
You know, that movie, the article that Jennifer and I wrote
about time travel and movies was inspired directly from the course
that I'm teaching on the Arrow of Time,
because for the course, we had some movie nights
where we watched a couple of time travel movies,
and we discussed them, and that was great fun, and that got us thinking about the whole thing.
But in physics, there's going to be more material that you just have to lecture on or get across in some way.
So you can make it work.
The seminars I did in the physics side of things have worked,
but the philosophy ones have been a little bit more directly to the sweet spot of people discussing things
and really being engaged with them.
And it has been very interesting.
You know, I think the one thing that came out of the philosophical naturalism course,
a few things came out of that.
You know, this is my attempt to teach an upper-level philosophy course that nobody else is teaching, right?
I mean, obviously I can do philosophy of physics, which I did last year,
but I was trying to do something different that wasn't just secretly physics, right,
in the philosophy department.
So I did naturalism.
Nobody teaches philosophical naturalism.
This is not really a course that you can find online for the most part.
There's probably some exceptions out there.
I'm sure that there are, but it's not a standard part of the curriculum, which is arguably a little bit weird, since if you go to the survey of philosophers' beliefs, the large majority of them are naturalists, and I think that there are a lot of questions raised by naturalism. Some of you know that I organized a workshop a few years ago on moving naturalism forward, where rather than rehashing tired old debates about naturalism versus theism or supernatural
or other forms of non-naturalism, we sit down as naturalists and try to confront our own problems.
And that was very much the spirit of this course that I'm teaching this year.
So when you're a naturalist, okay, good, you're a naturalist.
So what is good and evil to a naturalist?
Do numbers exist?
Where does consciousness come from?
You know, these are all questions that even naturalists need to address.
and I honestly don't think that they kind of have nearly as well as they should have.
And what I discovered, among other things, is that it's a fun kind of course for the students
because it cross-cuts other kinds of courses that they're taking.
You know, from week to week, we might be doing some epistemology or some ethics
or some metaphysics or some philosophy of science,
but they've done all those things individually in different courses,
because they're all philosophy majors,
but they've never put them all together in a sort of overarching way, you know, from start to finish.
So I think that's very, very useful for the students.
The other thing is, you know, there are sort of traditional dichotomies in philosophy
that I come to realize, yeah, they're real, they actually exist.
So this is an oversimplification, but within naturalism, there is Kant versus Hume,
Emmanuel Kant versus David Hume.
And they're kind of two personality opposites that show up in philosophical conclusions.
A humian, forget about, there's specific definitions of humian in different contexts,
but what I just mean is the general idea that the world is a set of things.
The world is a set of individual little events and things happening.
And then we look at the world, we attribute patterns to those things, right?
We say, oh, here's an atom, here's an atom, here's another atom.
they make a table. Here is a set of atoms that sort of persist over time in a certain pattern. That
makes a person. There's no fundamental essence of personhood or tablehood or whatever. There's just this
sort of emergent higher level pattern. David Hume was the quintessential emergentist. Whereas Kant,
even though a naturalist, is much more sympathetic to essences and single right ways. You know,
in the case of morality and ethics, we talked about constructivism, and there's a
a distinction between Humian constructivism and Kantian constructivism. Humians are likely to say,
well, every person will construct an ethical system given their own moral inclinations and intuitions
and so forth, whereas a Kantian is going to say everyone constructs their own moral system,
but there is only one right way to do it. Every rational person will agree. The Kantians are much more
sympathetic to these absolutes, these essences, these single right answers, the Humian
are a little bit more approximate emergence, that's all okay. And it's interesting to see that
kind of dichotomy, which arguably goes back to Plato and Aristotle, with Plato and Kant
being somewhat sympathetic and Aristotle and Hume being somewhat sympathetic. But it's educational
for me from the learning the history of philosophy kind of perspective.
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Aaron Berger says,
it has been over five years since you started Minescape.
How, if at all, have your goals for the podcast changed since the beginning?
That's a good question.
I would honestly say, I think it's true that mostly they haven't.
In fact, surprisingly little they haven't.
One of the things that I find hilarious about people who listen to the Derek Guy
fashion podcast is that,
you know, I liked it better when it was nothing but physics. And if you go back to the
original episodes of Minescape, it was never nothing but physics. It was, there was always musicians
and actors and psychologists and things like that on the podcast. So I think that, yeah,
it's almost surprising to me how little the goals of the podcast have changed. I mean, there's
two sets of goals. One is to bring to a wider audience, really, really,
real good thinkers in various ways. I don't always agree with the thinkers, but, you know, there is a
public, what can I say? There is a public sphere of people who like to talk about ideas, and not all
of them are very good. And, you know, there are pundits and commentators and other podcasters who just
have opinions about everything. And you can get these opinions, and, you know, some people are louder
than others. Let's just put it that way. And I very specifically wanted to make sure that the people who I
tried to bring on Minescape were the careful thinkers, the people who really dig deeply in our experts in
some field, not just the loudest talkers, not just the people who had opinions about everything.
It's okay to be a loud talker, to be a person who has opinion about everything, as long as you have
some specific area of expertise where you are really expert level, deep knowledge.
And there's no necessary reason why such people should always be familiar to people in the public.
How would they know, right? So that's my job as the podcaster. And I've said this before, but
I'm in a happy, fortunate situation where I don't have to make my living being a podcaster. I don't
need to optimize for monetary return. So I don't have to bring on the most famous people,
the people whose names you would instantly recognize. Sometimes I do.
if they have something interesting to say.
But many times, I presume it's true that almost everyone who listens to Mindscape has not heard of all the people that I have on before.
I hadn't heard of all of them before.
I look around in different areas.
I'm like, you know, man, we haven't done history in a while.
Let's get a historian on.
And I try to look for somebody interesting to get on.
Of course, you get a lot of pitches from people who have books out, and that makes your life easier.
But many of the guests I have just are people I've found as a lot of.
an academic who are doing something interesting. So spreading the insights and what people have to say
who are super-duper experts who the general public doesn't get to hear very often is something that I
definitely have as a goal. I want more people to hear people like Elizabeth Anderson, who they
might not have ever heard up before. The other goal, of course, is that I want to talk to interesting
people, you know, and I've said this before also, but I have a long pile of books next to my
nightstand that I would like to read, and who has time to read all the books? I have, I have time
to read books, but not nearly as many books as I want to read. So I get to talk to experts. I get to
look through their books. Some I read cover to cover, some I just skim through to get enough
questions to ask. But I get to ask the author of these books or the author of these ideas,
you know, what's going on? And I get all my questions answered and things like that. So
it's both very useful to me and very useful to everyone else, somewhat useful to anyone else,
anyway, and I think that those are the goals and those pretty much remain the goals. I hope that
other people are enjoying it as much as I am. Jameson says, does eternalism mean that every moment in
space time is equally real, or does it also mean every moment is equally persistent? For example,
the current moment has the distinguishing characteristic that is happening right now. Do all other
moments also have this distinguishing characteristic? I don't even know what this would mean.
Certainly the first part of the sentence is the right one. Every moment
is equally real. That's what eternalism says. It doesn't even say every moment in space time. It means
every moment in time. The lingo that people use here is in space time, a point is an event. If you have
a specific location in space and moment in time, you're an event. A moment in time is a slice
through all of space time. And you can talk about how slices through space time are dependent on the
observer or the coordinate system or whatever. Fine. But however you do it,
However, you slice space time into moments of time, and eternalist will say they are all equally real.
No moments of time are persistent at all. I mean, persistent literally means lasting through time,
and that's not what moments of time do. So I do not think that every moment is equally persistent in any sense.
The traditional wrong thing to say about eternalism is every moment exists simultaneously or every moment exists now.
That is not what eternalism says.
Eternalism just says every moment is equally real, past, present, or future.
And then you say, Jameson, the current moment has the distinguishing characteristic that
it's happening right now.
I think that that sentence is just ill-formed in some sense, because you're switching from
a point of view of inside the moments happening to outside, okay?
When you say the current moment, is that the current moment when you tell you,
typed that sentence or the current moment when I'm reading this, which current moment are you
talking about? To an eternalist, every moment in time has the feature that at that moment it is
happening then. And people who are living in that moment would say it is happening now.
But there's no distinguish, there's nothing to distinguish, I suppose I should say, any moment
from any other moment. All the moments are created equal. Malcolm McGregor says,
people talk a lot about the fine-tuning of physical constants, as if they were variables to be set in a computer program before running a simulation of the universe, and that if the constants were only slightly different than the universe as we know it would not exist. But is it possible that if we knew the fundamental laws of nature, the values of the constants would be what they are as a natural consequence, and we would see that they could not be any other way in the same way that the value of pi comes about from the properties of a circle? So then saying if the universe, sorry, if the charge,
on the electron had a different value than the universe would not exist, would be like saying,
if the value of pi was different, then circles would not exist. Well, you know, it's possible.
Long time listeners know, whenever you ask a physics question, beginning with the phrase,
is it possible that, the answer is always going to be yes, it is possible. However, we have
absolutely no reason to think that that particular possibility is true. We have a huge distinction
conceptually between numbers that appear in the laws of nature like Newton's constant of gravity
or the fine structure constant versus mathematical constants that are universal and everybody would
agree on. It is very, very easy for us to imagine alternative worlds where the value of the
fine structure constant was a little bit different, or the mass of the neutron is a little bit
less than the mass of the proton instead of vice versa. We cannot imagine a universe in which the value of
pie, as conventionally defined, comes about in and to be any other value than it does.
That's a very important difference.
Now, so I'm going to, I'm going to be negative toward that particular scenario that you're proposing.
But let me be positive toward the underlying question here, which is, how should we be talking
about the fine-tuning of physical constants?
As you say, people talk about them as if they were variables to be set in a computer program.
My personal belief, and this is a future research project that I have absolutely every intention of doing,
I don't think that we talk about values that the constants of nature could and should have in anything like a sensible way.
I do think that we have to do it in some sense, in the same sense that we have to talk about counterfactuals more generally.
when we talk about the universe, we do more than simply say, this happened and this happened, and
this happened. We say things like, if things have been different, then this would have happened. That's
the origin of talk of causation and reasons why things happen, because in this other universe,
where X didn't happen, why would not have happened, right? And so we should be allowed to talk about
the fundamental physical constants in the same way. The problem is, a little bit in order
counterfactuals, and very much in the physical constants context, we don't have a good measure
on the space of possibilities. It is not true that our universe is randomly chosen from some set
of possible physical constants. We don't know whether there is some underlying reason why
the physical constants were likely to have the value they did, or whether there is just some
arbitrariness in the way the world works. Maybe there's some multiverse where different things
look different in different parts of the universe or whatever. We just don't know. So we're in this
weird situation where we need to talk about this idea, and we have no idea how to do it. So
I would like to improve that situation. Maybe it'll be impossible, but that's certainly a goal.
Georgio says, is the concept of time we know and love necessary to be going, sorry, necessarily
going to be the same as the parameter we often label as T with respect to which the wave function
of the universe evolves.
I love this question because the answer is no.
It doesn't necessarily need to be the same thing.
Maybe it turns out to be the same thing.
So for just to back up to make sure everyone's on the same page here, I have often said that the
most fundamental equation we know about in physics is the Schrodinger equation.
The wave function of the universe evolves with respect to some Hamiltonian that tells us what the energy of the wave function is,
and the Hamiltonian times the wave function tells us the derivative, the time derivative, the rate of change of the wave function.
So there is a parameter T called the time that appears right there in the Schrodinger equation.
But as you know, quantum gravity is a tricky subject.
We don't know exactly how the real world that you and I experience emerges from that wave function of the universe.
So is it possible that the time we measure on our clocks is different than the time that appears in that universal Schrodinger equation?
Yes, it's absolutely possible.
There are even hints from things like the ADS-C-F-T correspondence and string theory that the same underlying quantum evolution can correspond to two different very classical space times,
two very different classical space times, where time is measured differently in one than in the other.
So I don't know what the right answer here is, but I do think we should be open-minded about those possibilities.
Michael Schildingford says,
What accounts for objects being more than conventional or non-anthropocentric in your ontology?
In something deeply hidden, you say these things would exist even without humans, but I'm not sure the finer details.
Well, you know, at some level, this is just a good question and a tricky one, and no one has the exact answer to it, when things should be said to exist.
My rough answer comes from Daniel Dennett, former Mindscape Guest, in his notion of real patterns.
I'm not exactly sure that my understanding of Dennett's real patterns is the same as Dennett's understanding,
but my understanding is that you have a bunch of things happening in the universe.
You have a physical system called reality, whatever it is.
But you don't know everything about reality.
You have incomplete information.
There are certain circumstances in which you can say very, very,
informative, predictive things about the universe, even though you don't have complete information.
So if I tell you I have a table, let's say I have a dining room table, then you would instantly
infer that I could put a plate on that table and it would not fall through. Now, I did not tell you
what every atom in the table was, you know from the idea of a table that it has certain properties.
So the fact that there are things called tables is a persistent higher level real pattern.
in the ontology of the world. There is nothing there that requires the existence of human beings
or knowledge or consciousness or anything like that. There is a pattern that can be picked out.
Now, whether or not there are people doing the picking out is a different question,
but the existence of the pattern is absolutely real and objective and independent of human beings.
Christian Rodarte says, priority question. If all matter has some rudimentary form of experience,
Do you think it's possible?
We could remember things that happened during the Big Bang like Barrier Genesis.
It's crackpot, but if creation myths and stories were symbolic of what happened during the Big Bang, it would be poetic.
Well, like we said, if your question is, is it possible?
Yes, it's always possible.
However, once again, in this case, I think it's completely implausible that All Matter has a rudimentary form of experience.
I think we have zero evidence for that, plenty of evidence.
against it. So I don't know how to answer questions of the form. If this false thing were true,
what would happen? You know, if you want to answer to this question, you would have to talk to
somebody who thinks that it is plausible that all matter has a rudimentary form of experience.
And then maybe they have further consequences of that. To me, I get off the train right there,
so I can't say much more about it. Jeff H. asks another priority question. As you fall toward a black
hole, from your perspective, does time dilation cause hawking radiation to blue shift asymptotically
the closer you get? In other words, are black holes white holes in slow motion? Well, this is a good
question, but the different parts of it have different statuses here. The, in other words,
has kind of thrown a monkey into the wrench. Black holes are not white holes in slow motion. That is
just not true. A white hole is not just something that glows and gives off radiation. A white hole is
literally and explicitly the time reverse of a black hole. So a black hole is something that you can
fall into and never escape. A white hole is something you can escape from but never fall into.
A white hole has a singularity in the past. Black holes have singularities in the future.
So there's zero sense in which black holes are white holes in slow motion. Now there is a
tricky and complicated technical question about what you see as you fall into a black hole.
In fact, I have a student working to improve our current understanding of this, because our current understanding is just not that good right now, to be honest.
Roughly speaking, you don't see more and more high energy radiation as you fall into the black hole.
What you see is almost nothing.
You don't see anything special as you cross the event horizon of a black hole.
Now, the details matter here, and the details are tricky because if you're standing far away from the black hole,
the typical wavelength of radiation you see is comparable to the short shield distance,
the short shield radius of the black hole. So a small black hole will have short wavelength
radiation, high temperature, a big black hole has long wavelength radiation, low temperature.
And so when you're near the event horizon, if it's a big black hole, if it's much bigger than
you, then you don't have enough time to observe radiation at all, right?
because the radiation is on wavelengths much larger than you and on time scales much longer than
you're falling into the black hole time. So it becomes a very non-trivial question. You can't
just imagine standing at the event horizon and asking what you see. You're not allowed to stand
at the event horizon. So what you instead have to do is some complicated thing where you literally
model falling in on some trajectory with a particle detector and turning on the detector and turning off
the detector, and then making sure that what you're observing when you do that is actually from
the black hole, not from the particle detector that you turned on and turned off. So it is a subtle
question, but the short, quick answer is that as far as we know, you do not see, you know,
asymptotically brighter and brighter, higher and higher energy radiation as you fall into the black
hole. Pete Newton says, I've heard you say that the universe is approximately flat and expansion
happens most in the large open spaces.
All the systems I know of that undergo self-organization from protein folding to nuclear decay do it to be in a lower energy state.
Finally, if you stretch a curve, it becomes flatter.
So could dark energy be caused by the universe trying to flatten to be in a lower, more stable energy state?
This is a clever idea, but the answer is no.
That is not what is going on.
There's a couple of things to keep in mind here.
One is the motto that systems undergoing self-organization go to a lower energy state is not quite right.
Of course, energy is conserved in these processes, right?
When you have protein folding, nuclear decay, and so forth, the total energy before is exactly equal to the total energy after.
What's really going on is dissipation.
The system that you care about is giving off energy in the form of the parts of the system you don't care about,
whether it's sound or heat, light, or low-energy photons, things like that.
So that process is actually characterized by increasing entropy.
It's the increasing entropy that is most important,
not going to lower energy because energy is conserved.
Now, the case of the expanding universe,
the entropy is indeed increasing,
but the idea that it is trying to flatten is not quite right.
In fact, what it's trying to do is to empty out.
That's true.
And what the empty state will look like depends on the value of the vacuum energy.
Depends on the value of the cosmological constant.
What's important about our current universe is the value of the cosmological constant is very, very tiny on the scale of physical parameters that we might imagine.
So therefore, the state that we're approaching looks pretty flat.
But if the cosmological constant were large, which it absolutely could be, then even the empty space state of the universe would still have a large amount of curvature.
Now, the final complication here, just to be completely honest, is that you have to distinguish between the geometry of space versus the geometry of space time.
Okay? When I say the universe is approximately flat, I'm talking about the geometry of space.
in cosmology, where you look at the approximation
where things are homogeneous and isotropic on very large scales,
then there's this well-known fact that if the geometry of space,
the three-dimensional geometry of space is homogeneous and isotropic,
then it's either going to be positively curved, negatively curved, or flat.
And the observations tend to tell us that it is flat,
or at least very close to flat.
That is not to say that the geometry of space time
is flat because the expansion rate of the universe also contributes to the geometry of space time.
So at early times when the expansion rate was very large, space was flat, but space time very much
was not. At late times, like now, space is still flat, space time is much closer to being flat
because it's become dilute and emptier as the universe has expanded.
Astro Nobel says, we always distinguish four fundamental forces, and many,
attempts have been taken to unify them. First by Kaluza and Klein, with electromagnetism and
gravitation, later by Weinberg and Salam, who successfully described the Electro-Week force.
Why do we never speak about electricity and magnetism as separate fundamental forces,
and Maxwell is the one who succeeded to find a unified description for them?
Well, we do. We do all the time. By my upcoming book on Quanta and Fields, and you will read
exactly those words. Maxwell's unification of electricity and magnetism.
was one of the first early examples of a successful unification in physics.
We don't talk about them in exactly the same footing because that unification was what
eventually led us to invent special relativity, to think of space time in a relativistic way.
And once you have relativity, once you are immersed in that way of thinking, then electricity
and magnetism are automatically unified. You don't need to work hard. They just are different versions of the same
underlying thing in exactly the same way that space and time are different versions of the same
underlying thing. Whereas the unification that Weinberg and Salam did or Kaluza and Clyde are trying to do,
they are all presuming relativity from the start and trying to do some particle physics-based
unification from imagining that there's a single underlying symmetry that gives rise to these
apparently different forces. So it's not because of relativity that these extra unification
attempts are happening. It's a separate symmetry-breaking kind of thing when and if they actually do work.
G.S. says, what do you think the path to normalcy looks like for the American democracy?
Even if a Democrat progressive candidate wins the 2024 election, it's clear not much progress can be
made without control of the Senate and House of Representatives as well. This is a long question,
so I edited some. I do encourage all questioners to make their questions short. They don't listen to me,
but I encourage you to do that.
Anyway, the question continues,
I'm honestly feeling very hopeless.
So much real world harm has been done
in just the last few years,
and even if I vote in every election in the next decade,
I feel like the odds are just stacked against
those of us who want to live
in a more fair, kind, and progressive society.
Is the path to this society just to keep voting
until all the obstacles mentioned above are overcome,
even if that might take decades,
if it even happens at all?
Well, you know, the short answer here
is I wish I knew how to get American democracy
back to normal, healthy functioning.
I don't think it has anything directly to do with voting for Democrats or progressive candidates.
You know, you should do that.
I am pretty Democratic, progressive myself.
And as of right now, as of 2023, the Democratic Party is much more in favor of traditional,
literal, lowercase D democracy than the Republican Party is.
But that's not the underlying issue.
The underlying issue is,
a lot of people in the United States aren't that much impressed with democracy. They think that
there could be a better system. They think that their party being perpetually in charge would
be better. I think that protecting the health of democracy does not come down to voting
for this or that party, but for convincing other people in the country that democracy is a good
thing. I think this is an aspect of living in a democracy which has been under-emphasized in
recent years. We look at the results. We look at who is elected, what policies they have. We forget about the fact that the whole
point of living in a democracy is the people who are citizens of the country are supposed to be
the ultimate authority from which the government derives its authority. And so if you want people
to do good things, you convince the people. It's good to vote. It's good to run for office if you
want to do that. It's good to campaign for your favorite people. But you also have to talk to other
citizens. You also have to convince people that it's okay to lose elections sometimes. A democracy
Democracy only works if you're willing to lose elections. And I think this is not just about the United States. I think this is true for any burgeoning democracy. If you are a country that recently overthrew an autocracy or a monarchy or a dictatorship, and you say, well, look, we've had an election and the people who won the election are now governing the country, we have a democracy. I would say, no, you don't, not yet. You have a democracy when the party or person.
who is in power loses an election they wanted to win and hands over power to the opposition.
That's when you have a functioning democracy. And I think that we need to think that's okay in some very
real sense. We need to people on all sides, I think people more than one side than the other,
but people on all sides need to be willing to talk to each other, to listen to what each other
has to say, to try to persuade other people, because that's the foundation of an actual
working democracy. I have no specific ways of making that happen, but I do think that's what we should
work toward. Soonest Mended says, I know you don't have kids, but if you did, what are some big
picture concepts that you would want to be sure to teach them? It's a little open-ended this question.
I'm not quite sure what kind of concepts you mean. Do you mean like conservation of energy? Or do you
mean, you know, how to be a good person? I'm not sure. I do think that how to be a good person is a more
important concept than conservation of energy. And related to the question I just answered about
democracy, you know, I think that taking other people's desires and values into consideration
as a person, listening to other people is perhaps one of the most important skills that we can have,
really accepting that other people can be different than us, and that's okay, as long as they're not
hurting us, right? There was just, as I'm recording this, there was just this little conversation
on Blue Sky earlier about Derek Parfit. Derek Parfit is a very famous philosopher who died a few
years ago, and he was one of these people who sometimes you see in not just academia, but
high achievement people in various forms, who was kind of a jerk. He was kind of a jerk to
his loved ones and friends and family because, you know, he had a friend, I guess a former
relationship, a former loved one who was dying of cancer and went to visit him just to say
goodbye and he didn't have any time to talk to her. He said, I'm writing my book. Leave me alone.
I don't care that you're dying of cancer. And my response to that is, you know, that's his
choice. Like, I don't think, I don't want to be him. If I had my kids, I would not want to teach my kids
to be like that, but I would want to teach my kids to accept people like that, to not try to make
every person just like yourself, right? I think that's one of the most important things we can
teach people. I would also like to teach kids to, you know, be curious and be honest and have
integrity and help others and all sorts of different things. But different, you know, the thing about
human beings, even if they're kids, are they're individual human beings. They're going to do
what they want to do. At the end of the day, we have to give.
them a good environment and let them become who they're going to become.
Rob Petro says,
You seem incredibly productive.
From the perspective of an academic who's interest in doing more public outreach
and generating more high-quality content for people interested in learning more about my field,
I find the sheer amount diversity and quality of the content you produce to be incredible.
I'm curious if you have a specific strategy or method for getting things done.
Well, thank you, Rob.
I appreciate that.
But I don't feel incredibly productive myself.
I feel that there's all these other things I want to do that I don't have time to do.
So that's the version of my feelings about my productivity that is foremost in my mind.
But no, I don't have a method.
I don't have a specific strategy.
You know, it reminds me of, for a few years back in L.A., I was working with a personal trainer.
I would go to the gym and, you know, there's a thing you sign up so you get personal training lessons.
and he's a very nice guy, and he would help me out, and he once told me the story of, you know, he had a group of friends, and they decided to, like, in general, do self-improvement and help each other do self-improvement.
And so they asked him, because he's a personal trainer, they said, help us get motivated to go to the gym and work out all the time and exercise.
And he gave what I thought was a very insightful answer, which is he said, I'm the last person who should help you with this, because I'm.
I don't need motivation to go to the gym and work out and exercise.
That's what I like to do.
That's what I would do, left to my own devices.
I'm not the person who will help you overcome a reluctance.
And I think about that when you ask this question because, and again, I'm very, very fortunate
and privileged to be in the situation, but I do the things I like doing.
I like doing scientific research.
I like doing philosophical research.
I like making the podcast.
I like writing books.
I like doing all sorts of things, giving talks.
And I also like the fact that I get to do all of them.
I wouldn't be happy if I were only doing one of these things.
And I know a lot of people, there's sort of basins of attraction where you try to do many things,
but one of them works out the best for you and you end up doing nothing but that.
I am just a different kind of person.
I am happiest when I can do a little bit of all these kinds of things.
So I don't really need a strategy or method to get,
the things done that I get done.
I'm, you know, these are my hobbies.
These are the things that bring me joy.
These are the things that I would do, left to my own devices.
So I don't need to sort of strategize.
I still feel bad when I'm like late for a deadline or whatever.
Or I'm ill prepared for a podcast.
You know, I feel bad all the time.
But I don't need to motivate myself to do these things because it's what I would rather be doing
than most other things that I would do.
So if you're not like that, I'm not sure what to say.
I mean, I guess the general strategy would be find a way to sort of optimize what you want to get done versus what you intrinsically like to do, you know.
Try not to swim against the current too much.
That's my secret for getting things done.
Define as the things you want to get done, the things that you would like to be doing.
And then you'll be a success at that.
Getty Lee Smolin says,
I can't find exactly where,
but I think you said something along the lines of.
The laws of nature are patterns
which we can learn about
through hypothesis testing and observation.
I don't remember exactly saying that,
but that sounds like something I would say.
Does this change if you're a Laplacean demon
or omniscient being?
Do the laws of physics become like the rules
of a video game, immutable and hardwire
into the fabric of reality?
Yes, actually they do.
If you're Laplace's demon,
then the way in which you think about the universe is very, very different.
Remember, I talked about those real patterns, about tables and chairs and things like that.
Laplace's demon need not know that there is such a thing as a table or a chair, right?
Because Laplace's demon knows all the information.
Tables and chairs become interesting and important when you have incomplete information.
So Laplace's demon only needs to know the most fundamental level of reality,
and from that everything follows.
And that's a very different way of thinking than you or I are thinking.
I don't necessarily think if the implication of your question is that Laplace's demon or Domitian being would see the laws of nature as inevitable,
then that I don't think is necessarily true at all.
I think that, again, we can imagine different laws of physics, different laws of nature.
So Laplace's demon would know that the world works in this way and not in that way.
but it would absolutely know what those rules are at the deepest possible level.
Liam McCarty says, in your book the big picture, you say the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely known.
In other words, the core theory is and will forevermore be correct in its domain of applicability which encompasses everyday life.
Might there be, however, complex dynamics that begin outside that domain and yet ultimately affect everyday life?
Could a proverbial butterfly which flaps its wings in a domain beyond our current,
an experimental reach, cause a proverbial tornado in the domain within our reach.
Guess what, Liam? You've asked a question of the form, is it possible that? And the answer is,
yes, it is possible that. That might very well be. As usual, that is not where I would stop
the questioning. What I would ask is, given what we know about the universe, how likely is it
to be true that this kind of thing is there? And in the big picture and in other ways of talking about
this, I do not simply say the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely known.
I provide the reasons for thinking that, namely, that the fundamental laws of physics in the
regimes that we're talking about seem to run according to the rules of quantum field theory.
Indeed, quantum field theory is more or less the only rules that are possible if you believe
in things like special relativity, quantum mechanics, locality, things like that.
And if the laws of quantum field theory are true in the ways that we currently understand them, then no.
Then the complex dynamics that begin outside that domain will not ultimately affect everyday life.
It is a conclusion that the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely known,
not an assumption or a guess or a suggestion.
Given certain very strong beliefs that we have about how the world works,
it follows that the laws of physics are completely known.
So that's okay.
There's plenty of other things that we don't know.
We don't know the laws of physics underneath the level of everyday life.
We don't know non-physics laws like chemistry or biology or whatever.
Plenty of work still to be done in science and other areas of human endeavor.
Roy Thompson asks,
is there a symmetry or other proposed reason why the imbalance in matter and antimatter quarks
and the imbalance in matter and antimatter leptons ended in an analysis.
electrically neutral universe, or local universe at least. Well, it's absolutely possible that there
is a reason. It's also possible that it's an accident. So here's what we think we know. If space,
again, space, not space time, three-dimensional space, is compact. So if space is a three-dimensional
sphere or tourist or something like that, then the rules of electromagnetism say there must be
exactly zero net electric charge in the universe. The way you can think about that is if you have a
single electric charge, there are lines of electric force that go out from that charge to infinity,
and there's a rule, Gauss's law, that you can integrate up the electric field at infinity
to figure out how much charge is inside. But if space is compact, then there is no such thing
as infinity, right? There is just the whole universe. You have those electric lines of force,
they would have to go and meet themselves somewhere else in the universe,
and that would be an opposite charge, a positive charge,
if you would start a negative charge, et cetera.
So in a closed universe, the electric charge has to be exactly zero.
If it's not closed, if the universe is not closed,
then it doesn't have to be exactly zero.
It can be some other number,
but there's no reason why that we can think of.
It shouldn't be zero either.
So this is not generally thought of as a big positive,
as far as modern physics is concerned, but we don't know precisely the situation yet.
X-L-R-W-R-P-O-90 says,
How do experimentalists get their hands on particles they haven't decohered with?
Presumably they decohered with their apparatus before the experiment began.
So I'm not exactly sure what this question is about,
but let me again try to say some true things.
One true thing is that we often in the universe work under the assumption that we are not entangled with other things.
And that is an assumption, but it's a good assumption for good physical reasons.
For example, you are not entangled with the chair you're sitting on, for example.
You're sitting on it and you're interacting with it.
But if there was some quantum state that entangled you with the chair, that would mean that you, different parts of your wave function were connected.
to different parts of the chair's wave function.
Now, in principle, in the wave function of the universe, that very well might be true.
But because both you and the chair are big macroscopic things, you would quickly also become
entangled with the environment.
And that means, from an Everettian perspective, that you would branch the universe.
And there would be one branch of the universe where you and the chair were doing one thing,
another branch where you in the chair were doing another thing.
And on those individual branches, there is no more entanglement between you and the
chair. Now, an elementary particle is not a chair. It is not a big macroscopic object. So the question,
how do experimentalists get their hands on particles they haven't decohered with? For one thing,
I'm not even sure what the word decohered with means, the phrase decohered with something. You don't
decoherent with something. A quantum state is either coherent or decoherent. So to decoherent
means become entangled with the environment. So maybe, probably what you mean is, how do you get your
hands-on particles that you're not entangled with? In that case, well, you start with a particle and then
you measure it. And as soon as you measure it, you're no longer entangled. You have seen some
experimental outcome. So, for example, it's most clear if you just think about the spin of a particle.
And you want to say, people will often say, start with a particle that is spin up. And you might very well ask,
do you know that the particle is spin up? The answer is, you measure it. You measure the spin. If it's
down, you throw it away and try again. If it's up, now you have a particle that is spin up and you can do
with it whatever you want. Tyler Smucker says, out of all the great progressive rock albums from
the 60s and 70s, what are some of your favorites? You know, I thought about this when you asked the
question. I'm not a great, like, ranker of albums or anything like that. You know, I have my favorites,
but I don't insist that one is the best, et cetera.
And I love progressive rock, but, you know, these guys generally did tend to have both high points and low points on the same album.
So I'm going to say something like Fragile is an obvious choice by yes, but they have those dopey little solo parts of Fragile.
Fragile had these group compositions and performances that were amazing, that were great, Heart of the Sunrise,
roundabout, south side of the sky, et cetera. But then they also had, you know, apparently they were
short of money and they had just replaced their keyboard player. They kicked out Tony Kay, invited
in Rick Wakeman, and they needed to pay for Rick Wakeman's new keyboards. So they needed to bang
out an album as quickly as possible in order to pay for his keyboards. And it was quicker to let each
band member record a little solo piece to fill up the album rather than to actually just write
song and record it. So that makes it a very kind of disappointing effort, especially because
they had just recorded a cover version of Simon and Garfunkel's America, which was an amazing
cover version. They could have just put that on the album, I think, anyway, if I'm remembering
the timing correctly. So that would have been a perfect album, but they didn't do that.
ELPs albums at the early days.
I love all of them and they all have weak points.
Maybe trilogy might be my favorite one there.
I think that has the least of the sort of indulgent instrumentals
that Keith Emerson loved so much.
And the first King Crimson album also a classic.
Many, many classics back then.
And I make no pretense to being up on what the kids are listening to these days.
I'm sure there's just as good music coming
out now, as there was when I first started listening to music seriously in high school and college.
But I don't know what it is, and I've got other things on my mind. There you go.
QBit says, you said that the preferred basis problem of many worlds disappears when thinking
in terms of density matrices, since we only have to find the basis in which the density matrix
of the of interest becomes diagonal. However, this cannot be the final answer when we talk
about many worlds in the wave function of the universe simultaneously. In this case, there is a
no well-defined subsystem with respect to which we can trace the environment, and therefore the
density matrix represents a pure state with seemingly only a single world. How do we find the
preferred basis in this case? Apologies to people who are not experts of quantum mechanics for this
question, but it's a sufficiently interesting question that I think it's worth a stab at answering
it. The very short answer is this is a really important problem. It's an open problem, and I write
papers about it. So you can look up my paper with Eshmeet Singh on quantum myriology, where we talk
about exactly this problem. How do you divide up the world into a system and environment so that
you can find a preferred basis for just the system, rather? So the basic physics idea here is that,
again, since we're not Laplace's demon, we coarse-grain our descriptions of the universe. And one of the
ways that we do this in quantum mechanics is to divide the world into systems that we keep track
of and environments that we don't keep track of. Now, often in practice, this is just kind of obvious,
right? Here's a cat. That's the system, but then all the photons of light in the room that are
bouncing off the cat, those are the environment. We're not keeping track of all those, okay,
if you're doing Schrodinger's cat experiment. But you would like to do better than that,
especially if you're interested in the foundations of quantum mechanics, you'd like a principled
algorithm for figuring out how to divide the quantum state into system and environment. And so
Ashmead and I proposed such an algorithm, the quantum myriology algorithm for doing exactly that.
And basically, it's based on the idea that you want to find a decomposition such that the system can have a classical limit so that it can behave fundamentally classically.
And there's a set of criteria that you can put in to make that happen, and it ends up that the system looks kind of classical looking, the environment looks kind of environment looking, with a bunch of easily manipulated low energy degrees.
of freedom. Now, just to be super clear, I certainly have never said that the preferred basis
problem disappears because the preferred basis problem is a good problem. I think it's solved,
but it doesn't disappear. And even when it's solved, it's not just find the basis in which
the density matrix of interest becomes diagonal. The density matrix, for those of you who are not
experts is how we talk about the quantum state of a subsystem that is entangled with the rest of the
world. Okay? If two things are not entangled, you can talk about the wave function of a subsystem,
but if they are entangled, the density matrix is the thing that keeps track of as much information
as you can keep track of without knowing what the rest of the world is doing. And it will always
be true that if you have an entangled system, so you have a density matrix that describes it,
You can diagonalize that density matrix.
You can find a basis in which the density matrix looks like a diagonal matrix.
But that's not the point.
That's just a trivial mathematical fact.
The important physical fact is that you can figure out ahead of time
that once the system becomes entangled with its environment,
the system's density matrix will become diagonal in a predefined basis.
So this is exactly Schrodinger's cat, okay?
This is the question, why, when you look at the cat, is it always either the awake cat or the asleep cat,
not 1 over squared of 2 awake plus asleep or 1 over squared of 2 awake minus asleep?
The answer is because the states that define definite spatial configurations are the ones in which
the density matrix will become diagonal.
You know that ahead of time.
You don't need to just have the density matrix and diagonalize it.
Why do they become diagonal?
because the environmental degrees of freedom, the photons, etc., become entangled separately,
they become entangled differently with the different macroscopic configurations of the cat
or any other macroscopic system you may have.
So this is all work.
This is all stuff you have to figure out, and I don't think that the state of the art is
complete and finished yet, but we kind of see the outline for how it will all be settled
once we understand everything perfectly.
Nomad 666 says, I've been hearing about JWST's new data, and can you tell me what's going on with the mystery of the Hubble Constant Tension?
Yeah, I actually just got lucky enough a couple days ago to sit in on a colloquium at Johns Hopkins by Adam Rees.
Adam, of course, is Nobel Prize winning observational astronomer, former Minescape guest, and, last but not least, my colleague at Johns Hopkins.
So we unfortunately had a last-minute cancellation in the colloquium series,
and Adam agreed to step in and talk about the Hubble tension.
The Hubble tension, which we talked about on the podcast with Adam,
if you want to go check that out.
That was from a couple of years ago.
But basically, it's not gone away.
It's just gotten worse.
And what I mean by worse is the following.
The Hubble parameter, you know, we call it the constant,
but of course we all know the Hubble constant changes over time.
So it's a parameter in our cosmological model.
And it's a physical thing that we can measure.
Okay, so these are two different aspects of the Hubble parameter.
One is you can just measure the velocities and distances to galaxies.
And Hubble's law says velocity of distant galaxies is Hubble parameter times distance.
So if you get a bunch of galaxies, you plot them on a straight line and you fit the slope, you've measured the Hubble parameter.
Good for you.
But there's a whole other thing you can do, which is you can start with a model of the overall evolution of the universe.
Our favorite model these days is the famous Lambda CDM model, a model based on general relativity
and scale-free density perturbations at early times or nearly scale-free, plus matter, radiation, dark matter,
cosmological constant. And within that model, you have different parameters that pin down
which version of the model you're looking at. What exactly is the density of dark matter? What exactly
is the amplitude of density fluctuations? What is the current Hubble constant? Okay.
the current Hubble parameter.
And that model can be measured.
Its parameters can be pinned down
by all sorts of different cosmological observations,
such as the cosmic microwave background,
large-scale structure,
what we call barion oscillations,
the different amount of structure in visible matter
at different wavelengths,
gravitational lensing,
a whole bunch of different kinds of measurements.
And so from that model fitting,
you can ask,
what is the value of the Hubble parameter
that you need to best fit the model.
And these two methods, one is the direct method
using galaxies and Cepheid variables
and supernovae relatively nearby.
The other are these kinds of global methods
where you fit to the model.
These two methods disagree.
That's the Hubble tension.
The direct measurement method gives you about 72
for the Hubble constant as a number.
The cosmic microwave background measurements
from the Planck satellite and elsewhere
give you about 67.
These are pretty close, and, you know, when I was your age, we didn't even know whether the Hubble constant was 50 or 100.
So we had factors of two discrepancies, and now we're on 10% discrepancies.
But still, compared to the error bars that we expect to have, the discrepancy is statistically significant at a level of more than 5 sigma to you scientists out there, which is very, very significant.
And Adam gave a very good talk where he just went through all.
of the ways that the local measurements, which is what he does for a living, could be wrong,
all the sources of error, et cetera. And he made a persuasive case that they're not wrong,
that we have various sources of possible error, we checked all of them, basically the measurements.
So the new wrinkle that we have now that we didn't have when we did the podcast is some new
measurements from the James Webb Space Telescope. So here's a little bit of in the weeds
for you astronomy fans out there.
So we're trying to measure the local value of the Hubble constant
by looking at actual expansion of the universe in our neighborhood.
Now, our neighborhood still means, you know,
millions and millions of light years, okay?
But it's just not the whole global universe at once kind of thing.
So we're looking at pretty high red shifts
compared to our Milky Way or something like that.
Anyway, you use a kind of traditional cosmic distance ladder.
The cosmic distance ladder is what you need to do
because you can't measure distances directly.
What you can do is look at a supernova in a distant galaxy,
and supernovae are very good standardizable candles.
So you know that all the different supernovae,
you can reduce to a common brightness,
given their light curve shape and things like that.
What you don't know is exactly what that brightness is.
But what you can try to do is find supernovae in galaxies
where you also have what are called sephiate variable stars,
stars that pulsate with a given period and luminosity.
And over a century ago, Henrietta Levitt showed
that there is a relationship in Cepheid variables
between their period and their intrinsic luminosity.
So again, they are standardizable candles,
so you can relate the brightness of the Cepheid variables
to the brightness of the supernovae in the same galaxies.
Now, still, you don't know the absolute brightness
of the Cepheid variables,
but there, there are some Cepheid variables that are very nearby.
And you can basically use parallax, literally the geometry,
the fact that a nearby star moves a little bit in its apparent location on the sky
when the Earth is on one side of the sun versus the other side of the sun.
So that's a direct geometric measure of the distance.
So he goes from parallax to Cepheid's to supernovae.
And what JWST has done is improved our precision at measuring these Cepheid variables.
among other things, but this is one of the things
that Adam was excited about and was talking about.
So it's kind of interesting.
I'm a theoretical physicist.
What do I know about this?
So it's interesting to see the real good observers at work.
You can take an observation of these Cepheid variables
with the Hubble Space Telescope,
which was, of course, unprecedentedly good in its day.
But sometimes you got a little bit of error
because the Cepheid variable you're looking at,
the literal number of pixels that it took up,
in the camera, overlapped with other nearby stars.
It was hard because you're literally looking at stars in other galaxies.
They're very far away.
It could be sometimes hard to get non-overlapping, completely separate pictures of the Cepheid variables.
So this was a known source of potential error.
And now, with JWST, you have higher resolution,
so you can actually remove, sorry, you can distinguish between the Cepheid variable you care,
about and the other stars that are nearby. So you, apparently, from what Adam says, you get the
same answer either way, but of course you're now more confident in your answer because you have
removed that particular source of error. So he went through a list of like 10 different possible
sources of error. This was one of them, but there are many different sources, and he painted a good
case that we know what we're doing. So I'm actually relatively willing to believe that the
Hubble tension is a real tension.
The question is how to resolve it.
And there, there's basically two camps.
If the Hubble tension is real, so if measuring or, yeah, measuring the Hubble parameter by
local measurements versus model fitting of the whole universe, if you really get different
answers, there's two possibilities that obviously come to mind.
One is there's something subtle about the evolution of structure in the universe that
we are getting wrong, okay? In other words, within the known laws of physics, but when considering all
of the tricky details of the origin of density perturbations and their evolution, something has
gone wrong, so that we've measured the local Hubble constant correctly, but our figuring out
what that parameter should be in the context of Lambda CDM is somehow making a mistake. I have no idea
what this mistake would be. I'm not an expert at that, but I think it's legitimately on the table.
The other big, obvious, exciting possibility is that there's something wrong with the laws of physics. There's some new physics going on. And people, like my other Hopkins colleague, Mark Kamienkowski, have been very active in proposing models for what that could be. Maybe there was a temporary period of dark energy in the early universe over and above the dark energy we see today. Maybe there are,
are some effects of magnetic fields in the early universe that we don't know about. Maybe the universe
is tilted or something, some kind of, there's like neutrinos or hot dark matter, in addition
to cold dark matter, all sorts of different possibilities are being looked at. None of them,
none of the thousand of papers written that proposed models for this have yet kind of stood up
and said, yes, look, I am obviously the right answer. So as far as I can see, this is still
a good question. We're still thinking about it. That's what makes cosmology fun.
Arnie Moskowitz says, I am a 96-year-old male fellow atheist in good health.
My doctor says I will make 100.
My atheism allows me to enjoy life with little fear of the end.
Imagine you are a 96-year-old atheist.
What advice would you give fellow non-agarians?
Sorry, Arne, I'm not exactly sure whether you're asking me what you are literally asking.
What advice would I give to non-aginarians versus specific.
specifically, what advice would I give to atheist non-agenarians? Or maybe what you're asking is,
as an atheist, what advice would I give to non-athist non-aginarians? In any case, you know,
I'm probably not the guy to be giving advice to non-agenarians. I congratulate you on living
such a long and fruitful life and on being a happy and fulfilled atheist. You know, I'm not
not going to downplay the reality of mortality and how important it is. We're all mortal. It's
going to happen. And as naturalists, as atheists, we think that the life that we have is the
whole shebang. There's not anything that comes after that. I mean, it sounds just glib and simple and
unhelpful, but, you know, accept that. And not only accept it, but relish it, is my advice.
so much as I could possibly say. What we do here on Earth is what matters, and someday that's
going to come to an end. It's absolutely possible, not to get morbid about it, but it's possible,
Arnie, that you will outlive me, because I don't know how long I'm going to live. We don't have
that view of the future. So all of us need to be aware that we should both, we had to simultaneously
to live a good life, think about and imagine our future accomplishments and activities,
and make sure that what we have already done is pretty good, right?
You can't live your life only planning for the future, but you can't live your life
not planning for the future either.
So, you know, I don't like to live in the past or the future or the present.
I like to live in all of these simultaneously.
That's what my eternalist sympathies lean me toward.
So it's perfectly okay to look over your long 96-year-old life.
It's also still perfectly okay to say, well, I got a few years left.
Let's write a book.
Let's learn how to play the piano.
I don't know.
Let's learn a foreign language.
It's absolutely like four years or 10 or 14 years, whatever you get.
That's a long time.
You can do a lot.
Learn quantum mechanics.
Look forward to your life, however much there is left,
as well as enjoying reminiscing about.
the life you've already lived.
Anthony Nalt says, suppose I set my credences according to the Bourne rule to be 90% spin up and 10%
spin down for some particle that I'm going to measure.
But I happen to be mistaken about how the state was prepared, the amplitudes are actually
reversed.
What could I observe on the many worlds interpretation that would clue me into the fact that I was
wrong about the state?
If I understand right, it can't come down to the frequency of outcomes.
Actually, it can come down to the frequency of outcomes.
The philosophy of many worlds is different, but the place you end up is exactly the same as in a Copenhagen-like interpretation.
What I mean by that is what many worlds says is that if you literally do have a spin with a certain amplitude squared for spin up, a certain amplitude squared for spin down, both branches of the wave function will come into being, according to the Schrodinger equation.
you will have some self-locating uncertainty as to which branch you are on once that measurement has happened.
And the argument that I make, and I made it with Chip Stevens, and there's other people who made similar arguments, is you should assign a credence to being on the different branches that is given by the amplitude squared, given by the Bourne Rule.
Now, that's a philosophical justification for assigning those credences.
But once they are assigned, everything is completely normal.
So as Chip and I say in our paper that you're encouraged to read, what about, you know, Bayesian theory confirmation? How does it work in this context? And the answer is, it works exactly the same way as it always works. If you have a spin that you think is 90% likely to be spin up and 10% spin down, do many measurements on it. And if you find that most of the measurements are spin down, then you should contemplate two possibilities. One is,
you got the credences wrong for whatever reason, right? You were mistaken how the state was prepared
or something like that. That is absolutely a possibility. Another possibility is that you just got unlucky.
And as a good Bayesian, the chance that you just got unlucky should go down the more you do this
kind of experiment over and over again. So in that sense, at the end of the day, the accumulation
of evidence does come down to the frequency of outcomes. Now, the thing that gets some people about
upset about this is there will be some people in the multiverse, in the whole wave function of the universe,
who will come to the wrong conclusion. They will decide that the born rule isn't right,
even though it is for other observers. And the answer is yes, that there's just going to be some people
will be unlucky. There was always the chance that some people will be unlucky. Many world says it is
definitely true, some people won't be unlucky, but it also says there's a lot more people than in a
single stochastic universe. So to my mind, everything balances out, and the progress of
science and the updating of your credences goes in exactly the usual way. Going to combine two
questions here. One is from James Allen, who says, say I'm trying to examine in a Bayesian way,
whether or not I might be a Boltzman brain. Would I give weight to the fact that I don't just
have memories, but that they all seem coherent, is a Boltzman brain that remembers all
of his episodes of Mindscape, hosted by Sean Carroll and in English, less probable than a Boltzman
brain that remembers those podcasts consisting of gibberish, and half of them hosted by Ariel and Caliban.
And Claudio says, my intuition tells me that a Boltzman brain, if and when it appears, won't
persist as such for more than a small fraction of time, so why is it even a useful concept?
Well, I think both of these questions start from asking the wrong question, okay? So the reason
why the Boltzum Brain scenario seems a little weird to us is because we keep wanting to ask
what is a typical observer like in a world dominated by Boltzman Brains? A typical Boltzman
Brain is very different than you and me, okay? There was an episode of Star Trek Strange
New Worlds that had a Boltzman Brain character in it. It was very, very bad scientifically. If we
had done, Jennifer and I had done a little pie chart of that, it would be, sorry, two
dimensional space of that, it would be very high on entertainment value, very low on scientific
value. Boltzmann brains typically randomly fluctuate into existence, exist for a very short period
of time, and then go away. So if the question you're asking is, what does a typical thing
look like? Boltzman brains look very, very different than you and me, no doubt. But there's another
question that you could ask, which is more relevant for questions of who do I think I am in these
universes, which is not what does a typical brain or observer or agent look like, but rather,
given that I am who I am, given that I have all of my body and all of my memories and things
like that, what is the most likely prediction for the rest of the world? Okay. That's a question.
You conditionalize on knowing everything you know about yourself. And that's the case where you had a very
different answer if you believe in a Boltzmann brain cosmology versus a conventional one, because it's
your implications for the rest of the world that are very, very different if the universe is dominated by
Boltzmann brains. There will be essentially Boltzmann brain-like fluctuations that look exactly like
you, that have all the memories of all the podcasts you ever heard, all of the things that you're
seeing in your room around you right now, et cetera. But the rest of the world is in thermal equilibrium.
And given that you are who you think you are, given you conditionalize on the macroscopic,
surveyorveillance that you have, the Boltzmann Brain Cosmology says that with enormous
probability the rest of the world is in thermal equilibrium. And that all of those
impressions of the world that you think you have, of memories of podcasts and so forth, are not actually
attached to podcasts you listen to, those memories just randomly fluctuated into your brain.
Therefore, this is not a cognitively stable situation.
This is not a situation where you have any right to believe the Boltzmann brain scenario, even if it's true.
You never have justifiable reasons to accept that you're in a Boltzman Brain cosmology
and be in a Boltzman Brain cosmology at the same time.
My advice is therefore try to construct cosmological models that are not dominated by Bolshev brains.
John Wyman says,
If I understand quantum field theory correctly,
everything is a field and a particle is a vibration in the field.
If so, this means a planet or cat are just a lot of vibrations in a field.
Is that too simplified or just wrong?
No, that is exactly right.
If you want to read more about it,
read my upcoming book on quantum fields,
and I will go in great detail
to answer this question about why vibrations in quantum fields
look like particles to you and me.
This kind of always bothered me, even after I'd taken a year's worth of quantum field theory,
kind of was rushed over in the class, so I think it's a perfectly good question,
but the answer is exactly yes to what you were asking.
Go Mazant asks a priority question.
If quantum gravity is proven, what would it look like?
In the classical sense, gravity is an attractive force.
In the relativistic sense, it is a bending of spacetime.
Given that even at planetary levels, gravity is weak,
what would that translate to its subatomic levels with all the noise that happens down there?
Well, nobody knows.
I'm sorry, I know it's a priority question, but the rephrasing of the question would be
what kind of quantum gravity model is going to be the right one?
Because there are different proposals for what quantum gravity might have to say
at the most microscopic level when it comes to questions like,
what is space time, what is the structure of quantum space time, things like that? Is time
fundamental? Is space fundamental? Are there really strings or causal networks or something like
that or loops? Nobody knows the answer to this. These are all questions that we talk about.
So I wish I knew. I wish I could help you. But this is how science works. You propose models,
you try to figure out which one is right. In the case of quantum gravity, there are many models
that are at least semi-plausible, none of them that we actually know to be right.
Anonymous says, should all the universes created during eternal chaotic inflation be almost flat, having the observable part being as old as ours, stretched exponentially with no horizon problem, no magnetic monopoles, etc. Then there's more to the question that I kind of edited out. But the basic question is about what we call the cosmological measure problem. So when inflation was first proposed, the idea was you have a tiny little part of the universe.
It would be dominated by a temporary dark energy period that would accelerate the expansion
to beat the band.
Everything would stretch out and get flat.
And then it would reheat and you would get a universe that looked like our Hot Big Bang cosmology.
And it was nice because the idea was that no matter what had happened before, this period
of inflation would stretch everything out and make it look the same.
The idea of eternal inflation is that that process happens within some region of space,
but in another region of space, there's a quantum fluctuation that keeps inflation going on,
and that region will expand and some of it will cool,
but other parts inflation will keep going on due to quantum fluctuations.
And in this picture, you don't get a unique future for the universe.
There are different patches of the universe where things can look
very, very different. So that raises a new question that wasn't there in the original inflationary
model, which is how do you compare the relative importance of one kind of area versus another?
And the answer is nobody knows because the numbers are infinite. There's going to be an
infinite number of things that look one way, an infinite number of things that look the other way.
People have tried. I'm not very convinced with any of the attempts to actually answer this
question. And it's a very strange situation because inflation kind of works, right? I mean,
it makes predictions for perturbations in the early universe and so forth that modern observational
astronomers and late universe cosmologists just use as a black box, right? They make predictions
on the basis of it. They test these predictions. They narrow down the parameter space,
et cetera, et cetera. But this looming question about eternal inflation draws into question whether
any of those predictions make any sense at all.
So this is the measure problem, and it doesn't get a lot of attention, but I think it's super duper
important.
I also think it's solvable, even though I don't know what the solution is.
I do think that it's completely plausible to me that there is just some right measure that
will say most universes are almost flat, no horizon problem, et cetera.
There's going to be a small fraction of other universes in the appropriate measure that look
weird, but they're a small fraction. So I don't know what the answer is. I'm optimistic that it's out there. I think this is a very good problem that deserves more attention than it gets.
Asian Bodin says, I was wondering if you have any opinions on psychological egoism. The idea that human action is always motivated by self-interest. And what about apparent altruism? Well, I don't know a lot of expert level stuff about this particular perspective, although I would very strongly say that it is perfectly,
obvious that human action is not always motivated by self-interest. I find it hard to believe that
anyone can actually have experience with actual human beings and believe that. It's also perfectly
obvious that sometimes human action is motivated by self-interest. Sometimes it's not.
See, I don't see what's so hard about accepting that. That's why it's interesting to think about
human psychology because it's not something so cut and dried as, yes, it's always motivated by
self-interest. You have to be able to accept nuance and complication in the world. You should expect
that of human beings. Human beings are not intelligently designed. They grew up under the course
of evolutionary history with all sorts of random accidents, as well as selection pressures.
Sometimes a band of humans can stick together and work in cooperation, and that helps them survive.
Other times, human beings can betray all their friends, and that helps them survive.
So the selection pressures are not at all obvious.
You know, I think that we should glory in and work to understand all the nuances and complications of human psychology,
rather than trying to boil them down to a simple motto.
Chris says, what are the best arguments you've heard for consciousness being fundamental,
and how would you refute them? You know, I don't want to be unfair here. I don't know any good
arguments for consciousness being fundamental. It is a point of view that some people have,
and they hold it very strongly, and there's some very, very smart people who do that. Therefore,
I think that these people are worth engaging with, because as a good Bayesian, I think that even though
I hold a certain point of view very, very strongly. If there's a whole bunch of smart people who
disagree with me, I have to carve out some credence that I'm wrong. But as far as actually
hearing the arguments and being persuaded, hmm, maybe there's something there, no. I have had
zero persuasion that there's any reason to think that consciousness is fundamental. So can't really
help you with what the best arguments are. Nicol Kramer says, if you were put in charge of the
grand renaming scheme for all of physics, what would your main choices be and why? For example,
in your new great course, which we talked about at the very beginning of the intro here,
you described the term wave function as a dumb, boring name. Likewise, I've heard you express
similar misgivings about terms like dark energy and entanglement. Similarly, what might be a
clearer, less confusing, or ambiguous term for the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics?
Yeah, you know, I actually haven't thought about these a lot. And I'll tell you
you why, I do think that some names are more clear than others. You know, names serve two purposes.
One is that they're labels, right? You could call this just alpha, beta, gamma. You could just
give completely symbolic labels to all these things. It helps you distinguish whether you're
talking about alpha or beta. But then also, names ideally would at least suggest what it is
that is being talked about. Okay. So wave function, for example,
example, that's just a terrible name just because it's boring, not because it's inaccurate,
but because it's boring. When they invented the idea of a wave function, when Schrodinger
first wrote down his idea of what the wave function was, it was something that he used to make
predictions for hydrogen atoms and things like that. We now think of it, and even Schrodinger
presumably came to think of it as the fundamental description of the state of reality, right? I would
prefer to call it the quantum state or the state vector because it's a vector in Hilbert space.
Wave function just sounds like a temporary label that you put on something before you come up with
the right one. But I also think that despite the fact that these labels don't always convey
useful information, it's not the biggest deal in the world. I'm not that worried by the fact that
these labels are not descriptive, that they're merely pointers, that they're merely labels. One,
Once the label is accepted by the world, you got to deal with it.
I don't think that renaming things is a very useful use of our time, right?
People have heard the word.
It's better to just be clear about what the word means.
Dark energy is kind of fine.
It's not the best label.
Even dark matter is not the best label, because the important thing about dark matter
is not that it's dark, it's that it's invisible, is that it's transparent, right?
it neither glows, which is what makes it dark, nor does it absorb light. That's what's important. It's
invisible matter, but that sounds even spookier than dark matter. At least in the case of dark matter,
the word matter is distinguishing it from other things like radiation or vacuum energy. Dark energy,
the word dark is just as misleading, but also the word energy is just nondescriptive,
because matter also has energy and radiation also has energy. So it's not a very helpful term in that,
form. But again, it's accepted so people are going to use it. Entanglement is worse for two reasons.
One is that at the practical level, it really does make people think that there is some tangible
connection, like a little string or a ribbon that is connecting two different entangled particles,
which could not be further from the truth. And the other more conceptual one, and this is where I become
a little idiosyncratic minority member, I don't think the right way to think about the world is,
as little individual subsystems which are or are not entangled.
That makes entanglement seem like a mystery.
Why are these two different subsystems entangled with each other?
How will we ever account for the mystery of entanglement?
From my point of view, it's exactly the opposite.
You know, the world is a single state vector.
And entanglement only comes about because we insist on dividing
the Hilbert space in which quantum states live into subsystems.
And then some of them are going to be entangled, and some of them are not going to be.
But it's not a mystery.
It's your fault because you divided the world into subsystems because that's easy for you to do.
Only if you're already thinking classically and thinking of these subsystems as fundamental,
do you begin to think that entanglement is somehow mysterious or weird?
As far as many worlds goes, people often do simply call it unitary quantum mechanics.
That's what it is.
It's the idea there's only one wave function, and it evolves unitarily, that is to say, smoothly, according to the Schrodinger equation.
But many worlds is fine. I call it that all the time. Other people do. Language is for people to communicate with each other, and that's okay.
Dan O'Neill says, have you ever considered writing a memoir? If you were to write one, how would you imagine weaving conceptual material, like your intellectual interests, into your life story?
Nope. I have not ever considered writing a memoir, not anything I'm going to do. I mean, I might write, like, when I get to be Artie's age, and I'm 96, maybe I'll write like a short article telling some funny stories about my life or something like that. But even myself, I think that the ideas that I think about and talk about are way more interesting than the specific anecdotes that happened in my life along the way. So let's largely leave it at that as far as I'm
concerned. Helen Edwards says, I am trying to reconcile views of the account of physics and free will.
In reference to past guests, on the one hand, and currently popular authors, and their views,
on the one hand, Robert Sapolsky and Sabina Hosenfelder, and hard determinism, and no free will,
then there's Jan Ismail and Dan Dennett, who have amazingly reasoned views and conclude that we do have
free will, even in a deterministic universe. All outline their views so precisely, yet I find,
don't fully dispute each other. Yeah, I get your frustration. And honestly, I try to occasionally
answer questions about free will, but I don't like talking about it because very, very often,
people are just disagreeing with each other's words and definitions. You know, I had a podcast
discussion with Robert Sapolsky. I really like him as a person and as a scientist. He wrote his book,
determined that just came out, and I actually got some chapters to read ahead of time so that I could
offer commentary. And his discussion of compatibilism was just not any good. He clearly, he was saying
you shouldn't be a compatibilist because determinism is true. And the whole point of compatibilism
is to say that free will is compatible with determinism. You can disagree with compatibilism,
but you can't sensibly argue that the fact of determinism is somehow a refutation of it,
because it's part of it.
So I would rather, and I did this when I appeared on Sam Harris's podcast,
and we talked about free will.
I said, you know, look, let's cut out the possibility of just having semantic arguments over definitions
by agreeing not to use the phrase free will in our discussion.
I do this all the time, and no one ever goes along with me.
So Sam did not go along.
We talked about free will.
It was boring.
It was all about definitions.
I think there's much more interesting things to talk about
than what those definitions should be.
So I would rather talk about those.
P. Walder says, Robert Sapolsky, once again,
in an interview about his book determined,
dismissed the many worlds view of quantum mechanics out of hand.
The basis for his dismissal was this notion
that many worlds allows for time running backwards.
I don't recall you ever discussing this,
is he right? I don't know if he is right about, I don't know what he means by time running
backwards. I don't even know what that would mean time running backwards. You know, with respect to
what is it running backwards? I do think that there is a fact of our physical observable universe,
which is that there is an entropy gradient. One end of time, the entropy in our observable universe
is lower than the other end of time. After the fact, ex post facto, we define time so that early
moments are the ones where the entropy was lower, later moments are the ones where entropy is higher.
If someone chose to define a time coordinate which moved backward, good for them. They're still
describing the same time physically, so I don't even know what that means to say time is running
backwards. All I will say is there's an interesting, again, psychological fact about people
who don't like free will, people who want to argue against free will, which is that they,
and I've said this before, they really get beholden, they fall in love with determinism.
They think that the reason why free will isn't there is because the world is deterministic.
And I have to point out, the world is not deterministic.
Certainly not the world as it is observed by actual observers, by people, because there is
such a thing as quantum mechanics.
Sorry, you can't predict what's going to happen.
because quantum mechanics says you just can't. That's the laws of physics, as we currently
understand them. And this is absolutely irrelevant to your picture of free will if the laws of
physics are stochastic versus deterministic that has zero impact on whatever you think about
free will. But for some reason that is entirely psychological, people who want to argue against
free will think that it's their duty to downplay the lack of determinism in the laws of physics.
They will say, oh, yes, there can be quantum fluctuations, but they're not very big.
Well, they could be big, and also, even if they were small, they're still not deterministic.
It's just not right.
Why not say things that are true rather than things that are false?
I don't know.
I don't know why people are so in love with determinism when it's not true.
Have a discussion about realities would be my advice to these people, who are not me,
they don't need to listen to my advice. Herbert Berkowitz says,
The Moon appears larger when it is near the horizon than when it is overhead.
Since we know that its actual size doesn't change, this is known as the Moon illusion.
There's no scientific consensus to explain this phenomenon, although there are multiple theories.
In your opinion, what makes this not so hard to crack?
Well, because this is a question for psychology, not for physics or astronomy.
That's what makes it so hard to crack.
You know, at the level of physics and objective reality, you can easily just take photographs of the moon when it is near the horizon high in the sky, and you can compare their angular diameter, and it is the same as it more or less needs to be. So there's zero physics problem here at all. But remember, the human brain is not a camera, okay? The human brain interprets what it sees because it wants to keep us alive. You know, we are subject to the pressures of evolution and the constraints of energy use.
and things like that, that's what makes all sorts of optical illusions possible.
So the question is, why is this particular optical illusion something that the brain is so prone to?
I have no idea. That is absolutely a job for psychologists.
I'm going to group two questions. One is from Mark Kumari, who says,
you have mentioned that space is almost surely not fundamental, while the jury is still out regarding time.
although you are of the belief that time is likely fundamental.
There appears to be some tension between the statement and special relativity,
where we talk about space time as being a single entity.
After all, if space is emergent but time is fundamental, what is space time?
Emergental?
And Doddsod says, in a theory where space emerges from entanglement,
is their preferred reference frame, i.e. one that is stationary with respect to the entangled elements.
So, of course, the short answer is we don't know what is going on here.
once and for all, these are all conjectures, hypotheses that we're still dealing with.
So the context is trying to understand how space time, maybe just space, maybe both space
and time, maybe just time emerges from some underlying quantum state.
Sometimes this is stated, including by me, as emerging from entanglement, but as I just said,
entanglement isn't the best word here.
The better way of thinking of it is just a single quantum state without any pre-existing
structure, how can you say that space emerges from that and what about time? And then it seems to be
that in these attempts to do that, space and time are being treated differently on a different
footing. That is contrary to the spirit of relativity. And it's actually worse than that,
because in my favorite versions of these questions, the number of degrees of freedom in the
observable universe is finite. So we work with a finite dimension.
Hilbert space, which essentially means it is impossible to be exactly Lorentz-invariant,
where Lorentz invariance is the statement of relativity that there is no preferred
distinction between space and time. So, even though we don't know what the final answer is,
I think it is absolutely possible that in the fundamental theory of everything, there is a
preferred notion of time versus space. And the fact that in the world we live in, space and
seem to be on an equal footing, in that case, would just be an approximation. This is very
unpalatable to a lot of physicists, and I absolutely get it. The idea that Lorentzen variants,
the symmetry that Einstein put into special relativity to make it all work, that that might not be
exact, that it might just be an approximation, that it might not be fundamental. This is worrisome
to a lot of people, and I'm not devoted to it by any stretch of the imagination. Let me just say two
things about it. One is that it would be great to have some experimental test of these ideas,
and the idea that Lorenz invariance is being violated is perhaps one of the most straightforward
examples of a possible experimental test. So in that case, that sense it would be great.
The other is that our universe has a preferred reference frame, the rest frame of the cosmic
microwave background. This is typically described as not.
fundamental. It is a feature of the stuff in the universe, not of the underlying laws of physics,
but there is still a question, where did it come from? Why do we have a frame of reference in the
universe that is somehow picked out as special? This is something we don't know the answer to
on the basis of the early universe or inflation or anything like that. We just kind of bake it in
to the fundamental description that we have. So maybe it's not an accident that the universe has a
preferred reference frame if the fundamental laws of physics do as well. That's just a completely
wild speculation at this point, but it's something to keep in mind or developing better theories
of fundamental physics. DC says, my understanding is that conservation laws are only true on a time
average basis, meaning that on a fine enough time scale, conservation can be absolutely
savaged. PV equals NRT, the ideal gas law, is a weakly emergent non-fundamental finding,
a shortcut that blessedly saves us from the horrors of statistical mechanics.
Are Einstein's field equations like that,
in that on small enough time scales you can violate the equation?
I don't think you're right that conservation laws are true on a time-average basis.
Certainly in typical physical situations like conservation of electrical charge,
that is absolutely 100% obeyed all the time at the most microscopic basis,
not just on a time-average basis.
Conservation of energy and momentum is 100% absolutely obeyed by the unitary Schrodinger evolution of the wave function of the universe.
Quantum measurements violate conservation of energy, but that's a more subtle thing, and I think personally that in the wave function of the universe, everything is still conserved.
Of course, it might be that in a more fundamental understanding, we find that these are just time-average quantities.
But certainly as far as current ideas of fundamental physics are concerned, these are exact, not just approximate.
Plant-based Heisenberger says, I don't believe that humans have a separate soul from their bodies.
I also sympathize with the idea that what makes you use the pattern of matter that makes up your body and brain,
not necessarily the ever-changing bits of physical matter that fills that pattern.
With this in mind, I struggle to understand what someone means when they say they were born into the wrong body.
What is the you that was put into the incorrect body?
I understand the confusion here, but it's a purely linguistic one.
You know, you have to think deeply about what these words mean in these slightly more subtle contexts.
So, yes, humans do not have a separate soul from their bodies.
But that doesn't mean you don't have a soul or you don't have a self or you don't have a self-identity, right?
What we're saying is that this idea that we've had for millennia that human beings have souls or essences or selves is not fundamental, is not something that is part of your bedrock ontology.
It is emergent out of a description that is more physicalist and made of atoms and things like that.
But exactly like tables and chairs, as I keep saying, that doesn't mean it's an illusion or it's wrong, right?
we do have patterns of atoms and molecules and energy that make us who we are, and we are somebody.
We individuals have preferences, we have instincts, we have feelings, and it can absolutely, it's not even very hard to imagine how it could be the case, that someone has desires or instincts or feelings that they are a certain kind of way, and an actual physical manifestation.
being a different kind of way.
I see no difficulty whatsoever
in a physicalist,
non-essentialist view of human nature
to imagine that psychologically
some people feel happier
and more natural
in a different kind of body
than what they were born into.
And, of course, experimentally,
it happens all the time in the data.
So if your theory does not accommodate
that, I think you should kind of
try to update your theory
so that it does.
Ned Grady says,
do you read the comments
underneath AMA questions and give them any weight to your answers, in your answers.
Yes and no.
Mostly no is the answer.
The way that it happens is that on the Patreon web page, I look to see all the comments at
once.
Usually there's like pushing 200 comments, and I cut and paste them into a text file so I can
edit them, remove the ones I'm not going to read, you know, edit individual questions,
et cetera, move them around sometimes.
And that cutting and pasting does not always include all the comments on questions.
It usually will include like the first comment, but then click to load more or something like that.
So I don't see all the comments.
And therefore, if your comment is, this is a really good question, you should answer it.
I would take that into consideration.
Possibly, it doesn't get 100% weight, but I would count it in wondering whether or not that's a question I should answer.
but you should just include that as a separate comment.
By all means, feel free to just leave a comment saying,
oh, I liked X's comment or question about this.
You should definitely answer that one.
And then I will absolutely take that into consideration.
Matt Haberland says, if I understand correctly,
there have been shifts between the use of frequentists
and Bayesian techniques and scientific practice over time,
and Bayesian techniques seem to be more popular now
than they were during most of the 20th century.
Would it be better if the Bayesian paradox
I'm preferred in all fields of science, or is there still a place for frequentist statistics?
You know, these are debates that go on by very knowledgeable people, and I'm not very familiar
with those debates. So you should not take my opinion very strongly here, but for what it's worth,
my opinion is that frequentism is just a special case of Bayesianism. Bayesianism is a way to assign
credences to different things you're unsure about. One way to do that is to imagine.
that that thing you're unsure about is a frequency of something happening over and over again.
So roughly, I think that, yes, Bayesian paradigm should always be preferred, but that doesn't mean
that frequentist ideas shouldn't be used. They should be used in the proper context where that is
the kind of Bayesian reasoning that is relevant. The Great Deceiver says, how can we ever hope to
understand the universe without first understanding the thing through by which we understand the
universe, i.e. the brain or mind. I don't see how it's that complicated, really. It's like saying,
you know, how can I understand this Wikipedia article without understanding the thing that brought it
to me, namely my personal computer in front of me? I don't really have a deep idea of how the
circuitry in my computer works, but I can still read the Wikipedia article, perfectly fine.
I think you should distinguish between the thing you're trying to understand and the thing by which
you do understand it. I can drive a car to get somewhere without knowing how cars work. I can do
science, actually without knowing a lot about the scientific method, and certainly I can have
thoughts without knowing too much about how the brain works. Varon Narasimachar says,
Papers that critique your mechanism for an emergent space time tend to attack the uniqueness
of the emergent space time. Do you hold uniqueness to be an important criterion, or would
you be happy to have a mechanism that induces the emergence of at least one such structure?
Well, I tend to think there probably will be at most one space time that will emerge from a different underlying structure,
but I think that we are still trying to figure out what the criteria are for seeing a successful emergence.
I do think that in our experience, because of how we're embedded in the world and the arrow of time that we have, etc.,
we have a very specific love for the classical limit.
You know, we talked earlier about real patterns.
The classical limit being applicable is a quintessential example of a real pattern embedded in a very different picture, which is fundamentally quantum mechanical.
So I think that if you looked for a classical limit and you look for an entropy gradient, so there was an arrow of time, and you looked for something like locality in some number of dimensions, I bet there would not be more than one unique emergent space time from any underlying quantum structure.
I don't know that for sure, but these are my guesses.
Callum says in 2008 you wrote an essay entitled The Cosmic Origins of Times Arrow
that briefly described your project with Jennifer Chen to produce a time-symmetric cosmology.
Have you updated any part of that theory in the last 15 or so years that have elapsed on new scientific findings?
Not very much, but I'm trying to.
I'm trying to write an article right now that talks about some of the loose ends in that model.
In particular, I'm very interested in whether the best.
baby universe scenario that we relied upon is the only way to make it work. I think that the general
idea of unbounded entropy and a time-symmetric, large-scale cosmology is a very, very interesting
and good one, promising one, but there could be different ways to implement it in realistic
cosmologies. So if you could do that without baby universes, I would like to be able to do that,
but I haven't quite decided whether or not that's possible. Dalius Kubalis,
says, can Gertl's incompleteness theorems, as presented, for example, in Douglas Hofstadter's
Gertl Escherbach, be applied to physics? If physics is based on theorems compatible with number
theory, they can never be complete and consistent, even if they are updated according to new
experiments. I don't think that's quite right. I don't think that you are correctly paraphrasing Girdle's
incompleteness theorem. The incompleteness theorem says that a given formal axiomatic system
can never prove its own consistency. That is one of the same.
of the theorems. Another theorem says that there will always be statements you can make in that
formal system that can neither be proven true or false if the system is consistent. So you can't
prove whether it's consistent, and there's certain true statements you can't prove if it is
consistent. So neither one of those statements has any obstacle whatsoever to physics, as far as I
can tell. Physics assumes consistency and moves on with that. And if you have some theory of physics,
I mean, by the way, I should back up. A theory of arithmetic or a theory of number theory,
like Erdels and Completeness theorem directly applies to, is very different than a theory of physics,
right? A theory of number theory says how you add things together. A theory of physics says what
quantities you add together to make different quantities like Momenta or something like that. It's a
specific model within a general framework. So I don't think that the analogies between number
theory and physical theories are even right from the start. But having said that, in any given
physical theory, I can use the axioms to derive theorems and things like that. And either I'm going
to find that they're inconsistent, in which case clearly I had the wrong axioms, or
I'm going to find that they agree or disagree with experiment.
That's how physics goes on.
It's not that it can't be consistent.
It's that, according to Gertel,
it's that I can't prove that it's consistent,
but that's okay.
In physics, I do lots of things
that I can't prove.
They will always be right.
Bits Plus Adams says,
in her book, How the Universe Got Its Spots,
former Mindscape guest, Jan 11 says,
there was no chicken in the primordial soup.
But given the initial conditions of the universe
and the deterministic nature of the way,
wave function evolution in many worlds, isn't there a sense in which it contained all the chickens
in every world?
Yes, there is, but let's be, but the details matter here.
And I'm actually thinking about this.
In part, inspired by the conversation I had with Slavoy-Zhechek on Robinson's podcast, which
you can look up on the internet if you want.
It's very plausible that the initial conditions of the wave function of the universe were
extremely simple in the sense that in the sort of comulgraw of complexity sense of simple.
It doesn't require a lot of bits to specify what the wave function was.
Our universe that we see around us right now is extremely complex in the sense that it takes
lots of bits.
But if information is conserved, how do you evolve from a simple initial condition to a
complex later one?
The answer in many worlds is that the overall universe is very simple, but we don't see
the overall universe, we see some little slice of it, some branch of it. So think about, you know,
a disc cut out of construction paper. A disc is very simple, but I could, with my scissors,
cut out a very, very intricate subset of the disk. And that's what our universe is like, right?
Our wave function, our branch of the wave function of the universe is an intricate slice cut out
of a very simple overall wave function. So would you say that that intricate little picture that I
cut out was always there in the disc? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. The possibility of it was
always there. And likewise for the universe, the possibility of coming up with a branch of the wave
function that has chickens in it was always there, but you can't really read off the details of the
chicken from the actual wave function of the universe at early times. Chris Gunter says,
Do you have an intuitive explanation for the degeneracy pressure of Pauley's exclusion principle?
What can we picture as pushing particles apart in, say, the pressure opposing gravity in a neutron star?
The explanation I've always heard is about fermions, flipping signs when swapped,
and allowing them to occupy the same state will allow them to cancel.
But is there a more intuitive picture than because the math doesn't like it?
You know, part of me wants to say that the correct explanations are always because the math doesn't like it.
it, or more particularly because the physical theory that we have described using the vocabulary
of math doesn't like it. Everything else is just a warm and fuzzy feeling, okay? The physical theory
is what actually is telling you what's going on. So you kind of should try to learn to be
happy with that. And I talk about the math behind it a little bit in quantum fields, my upcoming
books. You can check that out. But, you know, depends on, so since all we're after is a feeling of
satisfaction, it's going to depend on what you qualify as satisfactory in an explanation.
The thing about fermions in quantum field theory is two fermions must have zero overlap between
their quantum states, okay? So it's not just they can't be in exactly the same quantum state,
they can't be in almost the same quantum state. So when I have two electrons in an atom,
their two wave functions need to be exactly orthogonal to each other.
That can happen by having the spatial part of the wave function be exactly the same,
but the spins be opposite.
That's why you get helium atoms and other noble gases and things like that.
When you have two different atoms,
what happens when you try to push them together
is that the two electrons, let's say two hydrogen atoms,
try to push them together.
If they were exactly overlapping,
those electrons would be in the same quantum quantum.
state, that's not allowed. If they're almost overlapping, then the wave functions have a lot in
common, and that's still not really allowed. So you have to sort of imagine pulling them
apart until you can deform them in a way, so there's zero overlap between the wave functions
without putting too much energy into the system. So there's a push and a pull, right? The atoms
want to be close together because, you know, the total energy is lower. If there's no
difference between the things, but the Pali Exclusion principle won't allow that to happen,
so you have to look for the lowest energy state that is allowed by the requirement that the two
wave functions have no overlap. If that has no explanatory value to you, then sorry, I don't
know quite what to say. DMI says, would there be a difference between a bet that, quote,
when an initial pure quantum state undergoes gravitational collapse to form a black hole, the final
state at the end of the black hole evaporation will always be a pure quantum state, and, unquote,
and a bet that, quote, information can escape from a black hole, unquote. Well, there's a slight
difference in how those are stated, but I think morally they're the same. If what you're asking
is, when physicists say, can information escape from black holes, is what they mean that a pure
state will evolve to another pure state, even if it goes through black holes as an intermediate state,
then yes, that is exactly what they meet.
Tim Converse says,
if we encountered an alien civilization
that had advanced math and physics,
how different do you think their math and physics
could be from ours?
For example, human mathematicians think
the Riemont hypothesis is interesting and central.
Is there any reason to think
that interestingness is also objective
and would be shared?
You know, honestly, I think it's a very good question.
I don't really know the answer.
I could easily imagine it either way.
Let's put it that way.
I could imagine that alien
think in such a very different way
that we haven't thought of ourselves
because we think like we think
that their idea of what mathematics is
is just entirely different.
You know, Tim Modlin, who's a recent mindscape guest,
has this project where he reinvents
all of topology based on lines
rather than sets.
And he's interested in relativity
in the hour of time and things like that.
There's a reason for doing that.
Emily Real, who's another mindscape guest
from a while ago, has a way of
a different way, and it's not just her, but there's a group she's a part of
that has an entirely different axiomatization of all of math
that doesn't use set theory, but instead uses some constructions from category theory.
Whether or not these end up with very different final sets of theorems,
you know, they have to be compatible with each other, but they could seem very, very different.
So I could imagine that aliens would have even more different ideas about mathematics.
But I can also imagine that even though the aliens are very very different,
different. They're still in our same physical universe. They're still driven to care about the same
things. Triangles and circles are still very important. Maybe they have more or less similar ideas
about math. I think it's a very interesting empirical question that I don't really know how to judge.
Eric Doveji says, who is your Mount Rushmore of NBA basketball? You know, there's a tough one,
again, because I'm not a big ranker of things. I'm not a big lister of things, but if you force me to do it,
This wasn't a priority question, but I'd like to mix up the question.
So here's a little bit of a breather.
You know, I think that the two best basketball players of all time were probably Michael Jordan and LeBron James.
I think that's the sensible way to go there.
And in fact, I would pretty easily put Michael Jordan first.
And this is, even though it's pretty easy, it's not necessarily quantitative.
That's the impression I have as someone who has watched both Michael Jordan and LeBron James play basketball a lot.
At his peak, when Michael Jordan was playing, if you were on the other side, because I was never rooting for him, I was rooting for the Sixers, and they were paying against him.
And even when he was playing somebody else, I was generally rooting for the underdog, which the other team always was.
When Michael Jordan was playing, you really always had the impression that he was going to win.
That if he, you know, he didn't always win, of course, but it just seemed like a weird, bizarre fluke when his team didn't win because he was just so overwhelming.
and so central and so accomplished.
With LeBron, you know, he's won a lot, he scored a lot, et cetera,
but you don't have that same impression.
I literally watched the Sixers play the Lakers the other day,
and the Sixers destroyed the Lakers.
The Lakers are who LeBron is playing for now.
And admittedly, he's an old man.
He's very, very advanced in his age, LeBron.
He's played more minutes in the NBA than any other human being ever has.
But, you know, look, to be honest, I barely noticed him.
You know, he scored some baskets, but he looked very human, very ordinary.
And Michael Jordan never looked ordinary to me.
Still, given all of his accomplishments, I think he got to put LeBron on there.
And then I think, and this pains me as a Philadelphia 76ers fan, I think he got to put Bill Russell on that list also.
Not the most talented basketball player in some ways, but he just won.
He won basketball games all the time, and at the end of the day, that's what matters.
He was by far the most effective winner in the history of NBA basketball, and he also won
the Olympics and in high school and in college and everything.
He's the guy you wanted on your team when you wanted to win a game, and I think that should
count for a lot.
And then I think you have to put Wilts Chamberlain on the list also, because if you look in
the record books, the things Wilts did, no one else ever did.
And in terms of statistics, in terms of scoring, and rebounding, and block shots, and all of these things, he led the league in total number of assists one year.
He was the most amazing physical specimen and athlete that NBA basketball has ever seen.
So if there's four people on Mount Rushmore, then those are the four I would probably put on.
Of course, my personal favorite basketball player was always Julia Serving, because Dr. Jay was the guy who got me interested in basketball from the start.
And I think that modern ways of judging basketball players very much underrate Julius Irving.
There's a reason why the Sixers went to the NBA finals in half of the years when Dr. Jay was on
their team and have only been back once in the many decades since then.
He was a winner also.
And he did it in ways that were not always obvious.
He scored, but he didn't score more than anybody else.
He also had a lot of steals, a lot of assists, a lot of blocked shots, and you know, you can play games in the basketball statistics databases like basketball reference, and you can look for things like what basketball players have in the history of the NBA or ABA averaged, you know, more than this number of blocks, steals, assists, points, and it's not hard to find criteria such that Dr. Jay is the only person who shows up on those lists.
He was also endlessly entertaining and a wonderful person to have on your team.
So I have a special place for him, even though he's not top four of all time.
Christian Dobo says, in last month's AMA, you said you find it incoherent when people who say free will is an illusion
are still trying to make choices as well as trying to convince others about making choices as well.
Can you help me point out this contradiction?
In my mind, they are not saying the illusion of free will doesn't exist, or that is not central to our everyday behavior.
Moreover, they say that lacking free will, the only thing that can actually change your mind is an outside influence, like someone trying to convince you to do or to not do something.
I mean, I don't even know what to say.
For one thing, the only thing that can change my mind is an outside influence just seems wrong to me as someone who has changed my mind before.
But let's put that aside.
My point is, if you think that free will is an illusion, then you should also think that free will.
that moral responsibility or praiseworthiness or blameworthiness is an illusion. If the only thing,
remember, compatibleists are perfectly happy to believe in the laws of physics and that human
beings obey the laws of physics. What that means is there's a perfectly consistent and
comprehensive way of talking about what happens in the world that never mentions human beings,
free will, choices, anything like that. It's just atoms obeying the laws of physics. But that
The compatibilists say there is another way of also talking about the world where there are humans and they do make choices.
And in that way of talking, we can assign moral goodness and badness to the choices that they make.
What I don't see is how you can say there are no choices.
Choices are just an illusion, but I'm still going to say that some choices are good and some choices are bad.
I think that's pretty obviously a contradiction to me.
Robert Holmes says,
Do you have a list of criteria for distinguishing pseudoscience from real science?
I'm especially interested in critiques of astrology.
It has no established mechanism, but neither did gravity at first.
Its predictions aren't 100% true, but no model in science ever is.
So what sets astrology or other pseudosciences apart?
Honestly, here I am, again, in a minority perspective here.
I almost never go around calling things pseudoscience.
I certainly don't go around worrying about some distinguishing criteria for saying this is science
and this is pseudoscience.
I'm perfectly happy to call it all science.
I just say that some of it is bad science and some of it is good science.
The problem with astrology is not that it's pseudoscience, that it doesn't fit some made-up
criteria for what's really science.
The problem is it's just crappy in making predictions.
It is completely disconnected from other things we know about the universe, and there's no reason
to believe it's true. You can call it science if you want. I'm just not going to call it
worth my time. David Maxwell says, movies and games let us digitally create sights and sounds
an increasingly realistic way, experiencing things we never could in reality. My childhood
dreams of digital sense remains elusive, but if it happens in our lifetime, what new
olfactory experiences might you dive into? So I have no idea what new olfactory experiences might be
worth diving into. All I will say is that if you haven't already, you should go back and listen
to the podcast I did with Anne Sophie Barvich, who is a philosopher of smell, as philosopher-slashantist.
She actually has a lab where she discusses these things. And I'll warn you ahead of time,
smell is very, very tricky. Part of how we appreciate smell is extremely contextualized. One thing,
one chemical, can smell very pleasant in one context and very unpleasant in another context. So,
I don't know what will happen when we can digitally generate smells, because we're also going to have to digitally generate an entire context to put them in before we say whether they are pleasant or unpleasant.
Larry Hertzberg says, you often mention David Lewis's approach to modal logic when discussing how philosophy deals with the topic of possibility.
But I've never heard you mention Saul Kripke's popular alternative.
Kripke's approach does not posit the existence of other equally real worlds containing counterpart
objects that are merely qualitatively similar to those in the actual world. Rather, he views
possible world talk as just a convenient way to analyze the truth or falsity of counterfactual
statements about actual objects, based on our modal intuitions about the necessity or contingency
of their properties. I was just wondering whether you're familiar with Kripke's approach,
and if so, what you think of it. I am only very, very tiny amount familiar with Kripke's approach,
and, you know, from the little that I have heard, I'm actually more sympathetic to it than I
to Lewis's approach. Personally, I think that the idea of possible worlds is absolutely crucial
for how we talk and reason about the one actual world. But I am not a modal realist. I don't think
that the other possible worlds are actual in any real sense. If that is also what Kripke is saying,
that I am completely on board with what he says. The only reason I always refer to David Lewis
is the philosophers I hear talking about these ideas mostly talk about Lewis's version of it.
Someone like Barry Lower in particular thinks of what he is doing as building on David Lewis's approach to modality and possible worlds.
Lewis did get into details about physics and time and things like that.
So that might be why, the people who I talk to more often referenced Lewis than Kripke,
but I'm not trying to implicitly judge one as superior to the other.
Wade Dunn says, is there a recognized group of accredited,
scientists who are proponents of a young Earth and also anti-evolution that aren't openly
religious? No, not that I know of, certainly. I mean, well, so there's no recognized
group of accredited scientists. I don't know what it means to be an accredited scientist.
I do not know of any group of serious scientists who are proponents of young Earth cosmologies,
whether or not they're religious. Nick Gall says, my question has to do with the role of course
graining and what it does to our perception of complexity. Is it possible that the eventual
decrease in complexity in our universe is only apparent due to the fact that the structural
complexity of the cream mixing into coffee may continue to increase, but only at scales smaller
than the coarse-grained cutoff? Anything's possible, but we're thinking about, so this is in
reference to the paper I've been working on with Scott Aronson, an update of our old paper on
the origin and evolution of complexity in closed systems with cream mixing into coffee as our
paradigmatic example. The setup that we care about is the phrase closed systems in that
title refers not just to systems that are isolated, but systems that obey deterministic
underlying laws of physics, right? Like we think classical mechanics is or unitary quantum
mechanics is. So in that case, complexity must be.
something that arises from coarse-graining.
Because if you have deterministic reversible underlying laws,
then the total amount of information contained in the state
is constant over time.
It doesn't go either up or down.
So the complexity can't go either up or down.
It is only once you combine reversible underlying laws
plus some macroscopic coarse-graining
that what we call the apparent complexity
can go up and then go down.
And that's exactly what happens.
So the eventual decrease of complexity is, yes, it is apparent in some sense, but it is also real.
Both things are true because in the real world, we actually do coarse grain the universe.
We do not see all of the microscopic things going on.
Jim Spangler says, reading a blog post about Sam Bankman-Fried, I came across it, he's the guy who got indicted or maybe convicted by now, I don't know, for the FTX cryptocurrency scandals.
Reading a blog post about him, I came across a tweet he made back before his life fell apart.
In challenging the idea that Shakespeare was the greatest writer in the English language, he says, quote,
The Bayesian priors are pretty damning.
About half the people born since 1600 have been born in the past 100 years, but it gets much worse than that.
When Shakespeare wrote, almost all Europeans were busy farming, and very few people attended university.
Few people were even literate, probably as low as 10 million people.
By contrast, there are now upwards of a billion literate people in the Western sphere.
What are the odds that the greatest writer would have been born in 1564?
The Bayesian priors aren't very favorable.
Now, notwithstanding the fact that literature is subjective,
this strikes me as extremely bad reasoning,
but I can't put my finger on why. What do you think?
Well, I think that the fact that literature is subjective is relevant here.
More relevant, I mean, clearly overwhelmingly relevant,
is the fact that the idea of having a greatest writer in the English language is not very well defined, right?
What do you mean the greatest writer?
Shakespeare certainly isn't the best-selling writer.
That's, if it's not the Bible, then it's Agatha Christie or someone like that, right?
But Shakespeare is arguably the most influential writer.
He coined an enormous number of words.
He set the stage, as it were, pun not intended,
for the way that we think about poetic language and drama in general and characterization and things like that.
He pioneered forms of historical plays and tragedies and comedies, et cetera.
You know, anytime you see a comedy of errors, whether it's the Marx Brothers or the Three Stooges or whoever, Shakespeare literally wrote the Comedy of Errors, right?
There are reasons why the kinds of situations that arise in Othello and Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet
are used over and over again in modern dramas.
But guess what?
If that's your definition of the greatest writer, the one who's the most influential in a good sense,
then you shouldn't put a uniform prior on all the writers who have ever lived.
It's much easier to be influential when you were born earlier.
Okay? So I just think it's kind of silly, this kind of argument that is given in the quote, because it starts from an ill-defined idea, the greatest writer of the English language. It then smuggles in an implicit assumption, namely that your prior should be uniform over every person who was born, and then reaches a conclusion. So the logic there is just based on a whole bunch of sketchy assumptions. This is a big problem overall for people who consider themselves to be.
be rational. It's not okay just to have some assumptions and draw conclusions from them. Your
conclusions are no stronger than your assumptions. And so you have to be very careful that your
assumptions actually accurately track with the world. And there is a very human flaw that people
have, which is they like their assumptions to be simple. They like them to be easy and clear and
cut and dried, as we talked about with T. Nguyen, back a while ago, right?
Clarity and simplicity are just really, really seductive to human beings.
So the idea that we just take all human beings, give them an equal chance of being the
greatest writer in the English language, and then act shocked that the greatest writer was in
the 1600s, it's natural, it's compelling, but it's actually not very rational at all.
Jeffrey Siegel says,
The discussion of the reality of mathematics in the last AMA was interesting
and made me wonder how justified some of our choices for mathematical solutions are.
In engineering, complex numbers can be used to describe amplitude and phase, for example.
But starting early, we're told that the real-life solution for x-squared equals 4
is plus 2, and we should simply ignore the minus 2 alternative as not realistic.
Is there a deeper philosophical rationale for this choice?
Do you have a Bayesian prior regarding how likely it is that we might someday discover that the minus two alternative could be interpreted in terms of the physical world?
Well, I think that the deep underlying philosophical principle is that you were taught badly.
There's no reason whatsoever to say that if x squared equals four is all you know that you should ignore the minus two solution and stick with the plus two solution.
What is probably going on is that you don't only know that x squared equals four.
There is some context in which you're trying to understand something, right?
Like if someone says, I have a number of pebbles in my hand,
and I will tell you that the number of pebbles squared is four.
Then you can reasonably conclude that they have two pebbles in their hand, not minus two,
because the space of possibilities is only whole numbers, natural numbers, I guess.
0, 1, 2, 3, et cetera, right?
You can't have minus 2 pebbles in your hand.
So there is a physical context in which some solutions are physically reasonable and some are not.
But there is no a priori philosophical rationale that you should always choose positive roots to algebraic equations, to polynomial equations.
That's just not a thing that you should ever rely on.
Mike Meyer says, whether it's discussing current topics in physics or the history of physics, you seem to have a
talent for recalling the names of significant individuals and their accomplishments. Are you
especially good with names, or does this mainly come from repeated exposure to these topics?
I'm certainly not especially good with names. You know, I'm as embarrassed as anyone or more than,
worse than average, when it comes to remembering the names of people who I've met personally.
and I'm hilariously bad at remembering the names of actors in movies and things like that.
It's just not something my brain is very good at.
I think probably to the extent that you're a very nice compliment has any relationship to reality,
the point is that as someone who spends time writing about these topics for a broad audience
or talking about them for a broad audience,
it is often the case that I'm interested in looking up some of the history for how things happened, right?
Looking up, so exactly what happened when Isaac Newton came up with the ideas behind the Principia Mathematica
or the real origins of Riemannian geometry and things like that.
So I do a little historical digging.
Like I actually read Riemann's paper on Riemannian geometry, which essentially nobody has ever read in the modern world where we use Riemannian geometry.
If they did, they would realize that most of what we think of as Riemannian geometry was developed by Italian geometers after Riemann, but that's a different story.
But, you know, it's reading these stories that makes the names stand out.
It's not because I have any special facility for names, but by knowing a little bit about the actual history and the stories behind them, that brings the people to life, and that helps you remember their names.
I don't know if that's good advice overall, but I think that's where I get these names from.
Dragon-sided D says, have you seen any candidates on the Democratic ticket that you think would be preferable to Biden in the primary? And if so, why? Either way, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the U.S. presidential Democratic primary. Happy to give you my thoughts. My thoughts are that Biden is going to be the nominee, unless some disaster happens. Disaster to Joe Biden, not to the world. He's going to be the nominee. Deal with that. You know, I completely
understand an urge to challenge candidates in primaries. You know, we have a weird system in the United
States where because of this thing called the presidency and because of our particular first-past-the-post
voting systems, everything about the system encourages there to be two and only two political
parties. And that dramatically narrows down the space of possible candidates who can get elected,
especially for nationwide office.
It's a very, very narrow spectrum indeed.
In a parliamentary system or one where you had ranked choice voting or something like that,
you might imagine a wider spectrum of possibilities.
And by the way, the wider spectrum means not only more people with weird extreme views,
but also more people in the center, right?
The fact that you have to have two and only two parties means that to get nominated by the parties,
you have to be a little bit away from the center,
rather than right in the middle of it.
So anyway, I am entirely on board with complaints about the system.
However, given the system that we have,
something that you have to do as a grown-up member of a democratic society
is choose between the actual candidates.
It does not help you or the world or the country to say,
well, here are the candidates on the ballot.
I don't like any of them, therefore I'm not going to vote.
that makes the world a worse place. I'm sorry. Again, you don't have to like the system. You don't have to approve of it. But until we change the system, you have to deal with it. And right now, with overwhelming probability, absent some health crisis or something else like that, as of December 2003, the Democratic nominee is going to be Joe Biden. And the Republican nominee is going to be Donald Trump, unless he literally gets thrown in jail or something like that.
So work to change the system by all means, but the idea of running someone against Biden in the primary is just sort of, it's not serious. You know, it's wishful film and fantasies. And I think that politics is a place to be serious, especially once the elections, once the nominees are known.
Paul Torek says, I'm still thinking about the episode with Katie Elliott. You dismissed the relationship between patterns, laws of nature, counterfactuals. Sorry, you discussed. That's important.
the relationships between patterns, laws of nature, counterfactuals, and causality.
Previously, you've said that causality requires more than just that events are related by laws of nature.
Emergent macroscopic asymmetries must be added.
But where in these structures and explanations do counterfactuals come in?
Are laws, counterfactuals, and physical properties part of a theory-building package deal,
as former mindscape guest Barry Lower would have it?
Yes, that is correct.
Laws, counterfactuals, and physical properties are part of a theory-building package deal.
The point is, once again, none of us is Laplace's demon, okay?
None of us has exact knowledge of the world.
If we did, if we had exact knowledge of the world and the laws of physics,
sure, we would know everything that happens in the past, present, and future.
But we would never need to refer to ideas like causality or even laws of physics.
We would just know everything.
We would just know what actually happens, okay?
where all of these other things come in is because we have imperfect information, because we don't know everything.
So if you want to say the, I, you know, my typical, I don't know why this is my favorite example.
My favorite example of causality is I was late because there was traffic.
There was a traffic jam on the road.
It's weird.
This must be from my Los Angeles past because I walk to work now that I'm in Baltimore.
It's very convenient, and traffic jams do not get in my way.
But what does it mean to say, I was late because there was a traffic jam, as opposed to saying I was late because of the wave function of the universe and the Schrodinger equation?
That latter thing would be true, but it's completely uninformative.
The former thing, I was late because there was a traffic jam, implicitly refers to counterfactuals.
What do you mean when you say, I was late because there was a traffic jam?
You mean, had there not been a traffic jam, I would not have been late.
otherwise your statement isn't really saying anything. You can't say, I was late because
two plus two equals four, right? That's not something where had it been different, there was an
obvious consequence. The had it been different is playing a crucial role there. Again, I don't
think that these ideas are fully settled yet. I think that this is why this kind of science and
philosophy is still very, very interesting, but there's some very crucial role being played in
how we ordinary human beings talk about the world by counterfactuals. And the reason why this is
very interesting to a physicist is what is a small deviation from the real world and what is a big
deviation, right? This is something the philosophers I don't think have gotten completely clear about,
and maybe some physics has something to offer there. Brendan says, some theologians seem to get
bothered by the need to explain God's origin, and they compare that to a naturalist view that the universe
does not necessarily need an explanation, i.e. it is eternal. They seem to think that's a double standard.
To me, it appears reasonable to stop at the universe as a brute fact, since it is within the natural world,
whereas something outside the natural world like God would need a bit of explaining. Are there other
aspects to this concept I might be overlooking? Well, I guess I think about it differently than you
are implicitly thinking about it here. For one thing, I don't think there's any connection with whether
not the universe needs an explanation and whether or not it's eternal. I can very easily imagine
a self-contained, physically consistent story of the universe for which time has a beginning. I just
don't see any problem with that whatsoever. That does not imply some extra kind of explanation.
I do encourage you to read the paper I wrote about this. Why is there something rather than nothing?
I try to be very clear about what my ideas are here. I talk about it also a little bit in the big
picture, but the paper, why is there something rather than nothing, is a much more clear,
uh, complete, uh, statement of how I think about this. So I don't think that whether or not
the universe had a beginning matters. The question is, what kinds of things demand explanations?
I don't think that many things demand explanations. I think that explanations are convenient when they
exist. I think that just like causality, just like we were just talking about, they are features
of higher level emergent phenomena. The fundamental nature of
in my mind simply is what it is. You will always reach a bedrock when you're talking about,
oh, this is true because of that, that's true because of this other thing. You will reach a bottom
and you'll say, this is how the universe is. It's not some other way. And that's true whether or not
God is part of your fundamental ontology. So I don't count the explanatory needs as either
pro-theism or pro-naturalism, to be honest. I do think it's fair. You're kind of alluding,
to the idea that a theistic ontology is more complicated. It has both the natural world and God
in it, whereas naturalism just has the natural world. That, I think, is fair. I think that's
perfectly fair to say the naturalism is simpler, and then the question is, is it too simple?
I would reject naturalism if it were simple, but it failed to account for things that we
actually observed in the world. I don't think that's true, so I'm a naturalist, but that's how I
think that the logic would work.
Aaron Anathema says, I hear that neutrinos are notoriously difficult to detect because of
their low mass, but photons have no mass, and I have two surprisingly effective photon detectors,
my eyeballs.
How does that work?
Easy.
I like this question.
I like the easy questions.
The answer is, the fact that neutrinos are notoriously difficult to detect has absolutely
nothing to do with their low mass.
Absolutely zero.
You could have low-mass particles that are very easy to detect, like photons, as you point out,
or ones that are very difficult to detect, like neutrinos, or for that matter, gravitons or axions, or other things like that.
The reason is because the mass of a particle is a completely independent parameter from the coupling strength of a particle.
The coupling strength, and again, plug, I'm going to talk about this a lot in my upcoming book,
there are interactions between different kinds of particles that we can define in particle physics.
So the electromagnetic interaction is what happens at a particle physics level
when a charged particle, like an electron or positron or proton for that matter,
either absorbs or emits a photon, the force-carrying particle of electromagnetism.
And in particle physics, we associate that with a strength, a certain coupling constant.
And the same thing is true for neutrinos or for axions or gravitons or whatever.
It's just that the coupling constants for neutrinos and gravitons are much, much smaller than the coupling constants for photons.
So the photon coupling constant is already pretty small.
It's the fine structure constant, one over 137.
But for neutrinos, it's way, way tinier.
Nothing to do with the mass, that the coupling constant is an independent parameter.
Douglas Dickie says, priority question.
I have always assumed that complex numbers are used in quantum mechanics
because, ironically, the mathematics involved is more straightforward.
In principle, I assume that it would be possible to develop a valid treatment of quantum mechanics
without the square root of minus 1, I, in sight.
Is that correct?
Yes, it's absolutely correct.
Indeed, you can go further.
There is absolutely nothing that is done with complex numbers that could not be done
without complex numbers.
They're just convenient.
Complex numbers have the property
that you can write them as A plus IB,
where A and B are real numbers,
and I is the square root of minus one,
and you combine that together to make Z,
that's the complex number,
but then there's a special property
that there's a map from complex numbers to themselves.
Z goes to the complex conjugate of Z.
In the real number way of talking,
that's i goes to minus i, or so b picks up a minus i in a plus iB. So you can just by hand by brute
force replace all of your z's with a plus ib's, and then rather than having i, just invent a new
rule that you have an ordered pair, a comma b, with the property that there's a map that sends
a comma b to a comma minus b, and you can multiply them together in certain ways. And secretly,
you're just doing complex numbers, but you're never mentioning
complex numbers. This would be ugly. It would not be much fun, but if you really didn't like
the square root of minus one, you could absolutely do it. R.E. Maudi says, when the universe experiences
heat death, am I right that fundamental particles still exist just infinitely separated? And if so,
would particle entablement? I think we meant entanglement there, as a typo. Entanglement still
be possible after the universe's heat death. Well, yes and no. Um,
I think that this is a case where your intuition is getting the best of you because the fact that the particles you're talking about are excitations in quantum fields actually becomes important.
At the heat death of the universe in a universe like we think we're in with a non-zero vacuum energy, the universe asymptotically approaches its vacuum state.
I guess that would be true even if the vacuum energy were zero, but the status of the vacuum state is a little bit different.
in the universe with a cosmological constant,
the vacuum state has a non-zero temperature.
It's called the Bunch Davis vacuum
after the two physicists who first solved the equations.
And so if you had a thermometer,
you would actually detect a non-zero temperature.
That means that you would detect a photon occasionally, right?
Rarely, but occasionally.
The point is you don't have a photon detector.
You don't have a thermometer because it's in the vacuum.
There's no you.
There's no thermometers.
There's no devices.
So there's just a quantum mechanism.
state, and as I said, you asymptote to a quantum mechanical state, which is the vacuum state. That means that there aren't any fundamental particles lying around. There is just a quantum mechanical vacuum state. You can ask, but what about particles that have left my observable universe, left the horizon? There, it's a little bit tricky whether or not they still become particles. You know, when the
reaches heat death, everything smears out, right? Everything becomes closer to thermal equilibrium,
and the notion of a particle becomes less and less obviously relevant. Let's put it that way.
So I would just advise people, if you're not really into all the math and getting it exactly
right, and you just want a hand-wavy way of thinking about this, think of the universe as emptying out,
and there being no more particles left around.
Ron Graber says, in your recent solo podcast on artificial intelligence and AGI, you presented an argument that LLMs slash GPs do not model the world.
Can you say more about what you've learned about how conscious beings like us do model the world?
Put another way, if LLMs aren't on the path to AGI, in part because they don't model the world, what does our understanding of human general intelligence suggest that path will look like?
Well, I guess the best thing I can do is point you to the podcast I did with Gary Marcus,
maybe also we talked about this with Melanie Mitchell or Stuart Russell.
I don't remember exactly the details.
But the idea is that you can imagine symbolic representations of the world.
So in other words, you have the world.
Here I'm looking around the room I'm sitting in right now.
I say, oh, look, there's something called a table, there's something called a coffee cup,
there's something called a computer, a microphone, etc.
And all of these have different relationships to each other.
Coffee cups are often found sitting on tables.
Tables are solid and have certain sizes.
All of these facts, right?
And a model is just sort of this set of facts and the relationships between them.
Whereas something that an LLM does are not models of the world like that, but rather sentences.
Now, it's interesting because it's completely conceivable.
that if you have a model of the world,
and then you said out loud every sentence
you could think about that model,
coffee cups are often found on tables,
things like that,
the information would be equivalent, right?
Maybe enough sentences
essentially determine a model of the world.
That is something you could conjecture.
How would you test that conjecture?
And what I tried to argue in the podcast was
one way of testing
whether current generations of LLMs,
in fact, implicitly, spontaneously generate a model of the world,
is not just to say, oh, the LLM sometimes make mistakes,
because that's obviously true.
They absolutely make mistakes.
You have to ask what kinds of mistakes they make.
Do they make the kinds of mistakes that they naturally would
if all they were doing was calculating probabilities of sentences and words
or tokens or whatever you want to call them,
versus having a symbolic representation of the world.
And with the examples that I gave,
I tried to argue that at least in that informal set of evidence,
yes, the LLM seemed to be making exactly the kinds of mistakes
that they would make if they were just trying to say
what words would most naturally follow previous words,
rather than referring back to some symbolic representation of the world.
I don't know a lot about how actual human general intelligence
works. So that's a very good question. I'm not an expert in these things. I'm looking forward
to how we learn more about them. My main goal in the podcast was to emphasize that LLMs aren't
built to be general intelligence, and therefore, although it's remarkable how intelligent
they can sound, we should still be suspicious whether or not they're actually generally
intelligent, and when you press them in exactly the areas that you imagine they would fail,
they often fail.
So I think that it makes perfect sense, that story.
That's not to say that we can't eventually make general intelligence.
Gary, Marcus, says we've got to work with symbolic approaches to AI, along with connectionist language model kinds of models.
Maybe that is the way forward.
I honestly don't know.
Nita says on episode 51 with Anthony Aguirre, you said that you don't put high credence in inflationary cosmology.
only 50%. Why is that? And what's the creative alternative that would allow for distant regions in the CMB
to have the same temperature at 3 degrees Kelvin? Well, I think 50% is an enormously big,
credence, honestly. The point in my mind is the place in cosmic history where inflation purportedly
happens is way, way, way beyond anything of which we have direct experience, right? The energy scales,
the time scales, just the part of the universe that we're talking about is entirely speculative.
You're invoking new physical fields, new initial conditions, new phenomena, etc., etc., etc.
And it kind of works, right? You kind of get the answers that you want to get. It works remarkably well
to the extent that I'm happy to put a 50% credence on it. But the other 50% is not some other creative alternative.
the other 50% in my mind is something we haven't thought of yet.
We're talking about the origin of the universe here.
Why in the world would we think that we have a 99% credence of having the actual correct answer already in hand?
I think that any good Bayesian would always put some credence on something we haven't thought of yet.
When it comes to the first 10 to the minus 30th of a second in the history of the universe,
I think that credence should be pretty big.
Michael Lesniak says,
I'm going to answer two more questions, and they're both a little more fibrillous because the holidays are coming.
So Michael Lesniak says, being that Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, I have to ask, do you enjoy the traditional Thanksgiving meal?
And if so, what is your favorite part?
Short answer is no. I do not enjoy the traditional Thanksgiving meal.
I've just never been a fan of turkey.
You know, I like a good turkey sandwich with some, you know, lettuce and mayo and things like that.
But the big roasted turkey, I've just never been a fan of.
It's too easy to make it badly.
I understand some people can make it well.
But it's too easy to make it badly.
It's usually kind of dry and flavorless, to be honest.
I do like stuffing, and I like gravy, not a big mashed potatoes guy.
So overall, I can imagine a halfway decent Thanksgiving meal,
but I certainly don't look forward to it in any particular way.
You know, it's telling that we don't make roasted turkey on many other days of the year.
In fact, when we lived in Los Angeles, Jennifer and I had a true.
of going to Las Vegas over Thanksgiving and having Peking Duck on Thanksgiving Day at
Jasmine in the Bellagio. So we were eating poultry at least, but a much, much tastier
poultry than everyone else was having for their Thanksgiving turkey. Now that we're on the
East Coast, this year we just gave up. We've been too exhausted with moving in and
doing my job and things like that. So I didn't leave the house during the entirety of Thanksgiving
week. The nice thing that Hopkins does is you get the whole week off.
So what I did was on the weekend before, I went shopping, and I bought a whole huge amount of food,
and I spent the whole week cooking, different things.
So we had paella, and we had pasta carbonara, and a whole bunch of different things that I really enjoyed cooking.
So that was much more fun to me than the traditional Thanksgiving meal.
And then the final question is from Norman Romian, who says,
given the end of the year holidays are upon us, I have a cocktail question for you.
What is your preferred ratio of gin or vodka to vermouth for a classic gin or vodka martini?
Shaken or stirred favorite garnish.
You know, I've written and talked about this quite a bit.
In fact, I had a holiday message podcast a few years ago that talked about cocktails,
but I tried to be a little bit expansive about that, so it was less about the actual mechanics of cocktails.
I have different opinions that are of different levels of firmness, and the overall opinion is whatever you like, right?
I mean, I'm absolutely not a prescriptivist when it comes to cocktails.
So when I give you my opinions, please interpret them as my feelings, not as objective truths.
With that in mind, there's no such thing as a vodka martini.
That's just an abomination.
The whole point of a martini in particular or of cocktails in general is to enjoy a combination
and an interplay and an interaction between different kinds of flavors, okay?
So there are two problems with how many people make martinis.
One is, if one of those ingredients is vodka, vodka doesn't have much taste at all.
If you sip vodka, or you take little shots of vodka, small amounts, pure vodka,
and you do a taste test with different kinds of vodka, then you absolutely can taste the
difference between them. There's different mouth feel, different little tiny spices that leak into it,
but they're very, very subtle. And you really have to be pure about it. Vodka is not supposed to be
strongly flavored. So if you put into a martini, you're putting vermouth in there, which is
somewhat strongly flavored, and you're not going to get any interplay between vodka and vermouth,
especially if you don't put much vermouth in there. Then you don't have a martini. You have a vodka
transferral system, and it's basically good for getting drunk. So go nuts. Have your vodka,
put it in orange juice, get drunk wherever you want. My preference is to have a subtle,
interesting, martini, which is a cocktail, which relies on an interplay of flavors. So first,
one of those should be gin, because gin has flavors. Indeed, for those of you who don't know,
roughly speaking, gin is flavored vodka. You can buy
Gin making kits. I have one. It's tremendous fun. So you get a bunch of botanicals, right?
By flavoring, I don't mean like put, you know, food coloring in there or or high fructose corn syrup or something. You get botanicals. You get herbs, primarily juniper, if it's traditional gin. But you get different kinds of botanicals. And you can seep them, infuse them into vodka to make gin. And if you have your gin making kit, the good news is you can.
make your favorite kind of gin, and it's actually very good. It can be very tasty. The bad news is
professional distilleries will, after they do that infusing, remove all the color, because generally,
those botanicals are going to impart a slight color to your gin. So, like, pure gin is actually
slightly yellow, and it's not actually very attractive looking, but it still tastes really good.
And I'm not even much of a traditionalist about gin. You can get very, very good. My
most, my favorite traditional gin is St. George's terroir gin, which I think is very good, mostly
juniper, et cetera. But they're also Japanese gins. The Japanese are more playful about it.
You know, they have tea flavors and Yuzu in there and everything, and it can be very, very good.
And then a cocktail, again, is based on the interplay, and therefore you're going to want some
vermouth in there. There's this weird macho thing where people try to brag about how little
vermouth they put in their cocktail, in their martini, which again, then you're just drinking
gin or vodka, which is fine, but just do that. So I would like at least, let's say, 20% of my,
so that's a four to one ratio of gin to vermouth, and I'd be perfectly happy with a three to one
ratio as well. Shaken or stirred literally makes no difference. It absolutely does not change
the taste. There are aesthetic things. I guess the one way
There's one way that it changes the taste, which is that if you shake and stir for the same amount of time, shaking is probably more effective at cooling down the martini. And if one thing must be true about a martini, it's that it must be cold. The low temperature is crucial for a martini. I kind of got in trouble at a friend's house a little while ago where they knew that I liked martinis. They were very excited about serving martinis, and they gave me a martini at room temperature. And I've
was not able to hide my disappointment, which was not very polite as a guest, I have to say. Sorry,
I just couldn't help myself. I felt bad about that. Cold, cold, cold, cold is what you want a
martini to be. And so shaking works for that, but you can also, it can cloud up the martini a little
bit. Again, it doesn't change the taste at all. But if you want that absolutely crystal
clarity in your martini, stirring is better.
Yes, don't take advice on anything from James Bond, okay?
People forget that when Ian Fleming first wrote James Bond,
he was not supposed to be the role model of sophistication.
He was kind of not sophisticated.
That's why he wears wrist watches that are sort of diver's watches,
like Omega's and Rolexes.
That's not what you're supposed to wear with your tuxedo.
And these shaken martinis are not right either, okay?
So I actually stir my martinis most often, but I, again, don't object if you want to shake them.
As far as garnishes are concerned, this is crucially important and where I am absolutely a pluralist.
I will have olives. I will have onions. I think if it's an onion, then it's a gimlet or something like that, right?
Or a different name, but to me it's still a martini.
I will do a twist, and when I do have the olives, sometimes they're with a pimento.
sometimes they're with garlic, sometimes even a jalapeno.
It all depends on my mood.
I think you should do them all.
I think you should enjoy whatever you like.
And in fact, that is holiday advice of more general applicability.
Don't hurt other people.
Be nice to them.
Talk to them and listen to them.
And within those constraints, enjoy yourself, have a good time, be who you are.
Oh, I forgot to say at the beginning, we take the holidays off.
So there is no January AMA.
there is no Christmas Day Mindscape podcast.
So if you only listen to the AMAs, you'll hear me again at the beginning of February.
Otherwise, I'll talk to you next week.
Have a good holiday time period.
However, you might construe that in terms of celebration.
Bye, bye.
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