Silicon Valley Girl: AI, Tech and Career Growth - The 5 Levels of AI-Native: How to Get From Level 1 to Level 5 in 30 days | Peter Yang

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Peter Yang spent 10+ years building products at Roblox, Reddit, Amazon (Twitch), and Meta. Then he walked away from a high-paying job at Roblox to go all-in as a solo builder. His newsletter Behind the Craft has 140K+ readers, and his podcast has deep conversations with 30+ AI leaders from Anthropic, Google, Cursor, and Replit. In this episode he breaks down how: how to move from using AI like a search engine to building systems that run your work, how to build a personal AI that knows your strategy, and the one thing to do this week to get ahead.We cover:The 5 layers of AI adoption, from "I ask ChatGPT questions" to "AI runs my whole operation," and how to find which layer you're actually onWhy you should stop using ChatGPT and Claude chat and switch to Codex or Claude Code, even if you've never written a line of codeThe one-day reset: cancel every meeting, brain-dump your real workflows out loud, and let AI turn them into skills that save hours every weekTRICK: the personal advisor skill — a one-page Google Doc with your goal, your principles, and what gives vs. drains your energy, so your AI checks your decisions before you make themHow he uses learnings.md so his AI remembers the right things about him and gets smarter every conversationThe "last 10%" rule that keeps AI content from becoming slop, and why human taste is the whole job nowHow he builds a working personal app (a fitness tracker, a scam-email blocker for his parents) in a couple of hoursHis honest fears: getting dumber on a flight with no wifi, and what he's doing differently to raise kids who still learn the fundamentalsThe exact action plan for your next 7 days to go from consumer to builderLinks: Subscribe to my free newsletter where I go deeper on AI tools, career strategies, and building with AI: ⁠https://siliconvalleygirl.beehiiv.com/subscribe?utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=futureproof-sub&utm_content=PeterYang⁠ 🔗 Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/siliconvalleygirl/⁠ 𝕏 : ⁠https://x.com/siliconvalleymm⁠ 💼 LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinamogilko⁠ 📌 My Companies & Products: ⁠https://Marinamogilko.co

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I just don't feel like working anymore. That's Peter Yang. He spent a decade building products at Reddit, Meta, and Roblox. Now he runs a newsletter for 140,000 people with no team, almost all of it through AI. Unlike like an employee is never going to leave you. And it's only getting exponentially better. Last 10% you gotta add your human touch to it.

And you don't have to be a creator to make this. I see a lot of creators that they like to get AI to generate 10 posts per hour. And like the slop goes viral. This is heartening. For someone who's trying to stay ahead in this AI era, which should they be doing? So step number one is use codex or clock code. And step two is to. So I really wanted to make this podcast practical for everyone who's watching. There is something that's going on in AI right now that everyone is talking about is self-improving. And you recently build cause self-improving skills. And the whole narrative is like, stop prompting your AI,

make it figure out what to do next. Can you talk about that? And is self-improving a reality for people who are just using AI versus researchers? Yeah, there's like different ways to do it. I think, first of all, like, you know, I think all your audience knows the skill is just like a text file with a bunch of instructions, right? And, yeah, I have skills for making my podcast, for editing my newsletter posts and so on. Most basic ways to do itself improvement is after use the skill and you have a back and forth conversation with AI, because it never gets a right in one shot.

Then you just say like, hey, based on our conversation, can you please update the scale to account for, you know, to try to get to it in one shot faster, right? And then I'll make a bunch of changes and then you should review it. And then hopefully you'll do it better the next time. When I integrated AI into every part of my work, it almost feels like cheating. And a year before that, you said you were drowning in meetings and projects. What are the top three things that you deployed in this year that dramatically changed how productive you are? So I can tell on my creator work, because we're both creators.

And being a creator is like a lot of repetitive work, right? Like a lot of repetitive copy and pasteing back and forth. and like changing things from like a newsletter or post to like uh like youtube description to like social posts. It's like a lot of kind of like different formats. And I just decided to spend one day like just like, you know, no meetings and just sat down with codex and be like, hey, I basically just brain dumped all my workflows to codex and here's how I do it manually. And I use something called whisper flow just like bringing it up. So my voice. So there's like a couple of major ones like, you know, prepping the podcast, post production, there's editing my newsletter posts. There's posting

to the various social media platforms. And then another one is I just like setting up an advisor to kind of give me like business advice, like checking ideas. Is it like an agent that's running? It's just like a skill that's distinct to a Google dog file that has like a bunch of personal information about my business. And then it kind of gives me advice.

Talk to me about posting on different platforms. How does it work? Do you dictate something with your voice or does it see what kind of videos you produce and repurposes them? I have some like crown job. which is basically like, you know, like this morning briefings, weekly reports that send me how, like, other channels are doing, what kind of videos are popular. Now I post you social media platforms through Kodax directly.

Before I was using this tool called Typefulfoli, these like social media tools. But like some of the platforms I posted like substack notes, they don't have any kind of like API integrations, right? So I just told Kodes, hey, like I want to schedule posts to substack notes. Can you help me figure it out? And then it went to the browser and it sniffed out some internal APIs that they're using. to post. So it's not the internal APIs. And then it could also do computer use, right? It can also do computers. Yeah. So you can do both. But now, but now I can post you like four platforms. I can post to X, LinkedIn threads and subsect nodes at the

same time. And in the skill, it has like some nuances. Like for example, on X, you want to tag the person that you interviewed, right? You want to find the handle. But on LinkedIn, you can already tag. It's kind of hard to tag. So like I can just bring dumped it all the codex and now it can actually do the tweaks for her for me. So it kind of sees me a lot time. Do you get the final approval before it posts or it just goes ahead and post by itself? I still drafted. I don't just get it to generate copy to post. So I still, I just like, you know, use whisperflow and bring bring down some random thing into codex. So you talk to it? It takes your voice and just like creates different social media posts. It creates some social media posts.

It also has my, you know, examples of posts that I've done that have gone very viral. So it can help me like, clean out my brain dump into like a more polished post. Yeah. And then I'll take a look and and then be like, okay, go post it to all four platforms. Does it have access to your analytics to assess what's going on right now? It does, yes. It has access to analytics from various platforms and also typefully, the thing I use also has analytics. So it did some analysis. Like, for example, it found that on LinkedIn, I don't know if it's good or not,

but like if you just do a post with a bunch of links to all your tutorials and stuff, it tends to do better than if you do a single one. So I had no idea about that. So I'm going to do more of that now. What about newsletter? Is it the same process where you talk about, what you want to have in your newsletter and it creates it? Newsletter depends on what kind of post I'm making.

So for example, like, I think by the time this goes out, I have published a post about why I'm leaving my job. So that one, I just kind of like went on a walk and kind of dictated to Whisper Florides voice tools and kind of just like brain dumped my real thoughts. To codex, direct into codex, right? I don't know, I could do it to Codex, but I use this tool called like Super Whisper

that records like 10 minutes of my brain dump. And then I copy and paste the whole thing into codex, Because codex, I'm just worried, like, if I take it for 10 minutes, code will get confused. That's my worry, too. Or something stops working. And it just keeps processing and nothing happens. That happened to me a couple of times.

And it's not just codex. I think it's the context field that is not designed for a 10 minute prompt. And how many edits do you typically do in this process? It's interesting because, like, with AI, I'm kind of giving me a feedback for it to edit. It's actually hard to just edit yourself and just give it feedback, right? So like, I bring it up it. I give it a code. It does a bunch of editing.

And it uses my best examples to edit. And then, you know, it'll be just something wrong. So I have to re-through them. And then I kind of voice takes a bunch of feedback. And it doesn't ever pass. And then maybe the last 10% I have the amount of change stuff. Yeah. Like it's actually important.

Like I always emphasize like last 10% you got to add your human touch to it. You can just like AI slopify everything. Basically all your written content is created with the help of AI. Talk to me about this strategic thing that you're doing. Is that like in the morning it briefs you on what's performing, what's not? Every week it sends me a brief about how much money I made this week and also like how did my past 30 days content perform? And also like all the other channels that make similar content,

is there any kind of outliers? You know, so it does that for YouTube and also for Substack. And for Substack, it doesn't have API, so it has to use browser use to look up everything. Yeah. So that would take me like. an hour to do manually, but like it does it. You mentioned some of your editing is done with AI.

Yeah. Is that where you, do you dump a transcript and it edits it out or what's the process? Yeah, for video editing, I feel like maybe I haven't gotten deep into it yet, but I still use like a human, like a video editor. But the transcript is very useful because I dumped the transcript into codex and it tells me here's the moments where like you had like awkward pauses or like stuff you should cut.

Here's the timestamps. And also for like the intro, here's kind of like we should pick like here's like the spicy quotes from the interview. Nice. Yeah, it's fascinating how this has become so much faster versus a year ago. Yeah. It's just, yeah, it's a different reality these days. So you've described all of these things that you've built.

How often do you build something new? Pretty much every single time I talk to AI, something changes, right? Like I'll take some skills or something changes, but you're somewhat like from zero to one. Well, my hope is that I can streamline a lot of my content production. And, you know, for the audience, I'm not going to sloppify everything. I'm still applying taste, but I want to streamline a little bit so I can save more time. Because I actually want to be a builder because, you know, I spent a decade of my career just building products inside big companies. And I want to, now that we have all these agents and tokens we can use, I want to like build different tools, like open source tools or things that, you know, solve my own problems.

Yeah. So I want to do both. I don't want to just be a creator. I want to be a creator and a builder. Nice. So I'm going to spend more time doing that. How do you make decision when? to build something and when it's okay the way it is?

It's usually, I feel like, you know, it's best to kind of build stuff to solve your own problems. So like, for example, I built like a fitness app. I mean, everyone has been with fitness apps, but I built a fitness app that helps me trap my workouts. And then it has an MCP to kind of like send me emails all my health. You know, that's one thing I built. I'm doing something else right now.

You know, in Gmail, like you get a lot of scam, scammers. And like, my parents have no idea. Like, you know, their bank sends them an email, but it's actually like xyz at hotmail.com. Right? So I'm trying to build like some sort of extension to just hide that this is a scam. How long does it take it to build something like that? I think to get to 80% there, it probably just takes a couple hours. Because you just make a plan and you get code to do it.

But to actually make it good and to test it and polish it, that takes more time. That takes like a couple days or like, you know, depending on where your quality bar is. Yeah. Where you want to go. Before we start building something, you have this system with five, layers of AI adoption. Can you walk me through them and let's decide which layer do we want to land on today? I made this five layer thing actually like six months ago. So most people are in layer one, which is just using AI for everyday answers. They're using chat GPT and cloud and asking questions.

I think the second layer is like using AI for daily work. So you're still in chat GPT and cloud, but you're using projects and other things to like to not do too much copy and pasting, to like set up projects for different things like, I don't know, give me your life advice, automating your content stuff. But because it's in chat chipeting in Cloud, you still have to copy and paste the output to somewhere else. So it's still like a lot of going back and forth. And then I think this is more from like a product perspective,

but then a lot of people in my, you know, as a product manager, you want to use AI for prototype typing. Because like product managers, we all used to just write a bunch of doc documents that none of our engineers want to actually read. So now with all these tools like lovable and like Replet and Codex and everything else, you can actually build prototypes. of your products.

So like I usually take a screenshot on my product and I'm like, hey, can you make a prototype of this and make some changes and show it to my engineer and the designer? So that's then. And then you can use AI level four to build different apps.

So like, there's never been building a personal app for yourself and trying to like build an app that like millions of people use, right? So when I say building apps, a lot of it's just like personal apps for yourself. Does, where do the agents go in these layers?

Well, if you're just building an app, like, you know, you can just put it on Versel or something and then have a link that people can use. So it's not really looping or anything. Okay. Yeah.

So, and that's layer four? Layer four. Yeah. And layer five? Layer five is what we've been talking about, which is like you actually use AI kind of for like as a personal agent to try to like stream and automate as much as you can.

Right. And like, and like it sounds like very complicated, but really is just about like sitting down. Like like canceling all your meetings for a day and sitting down and like thinking through your past week, all the time you spend time manually doing stuff. And just like sharing it. with your AI friend. Can you walk me through a process that we just talked about

in a very practical way so that people who've been using AI on like level one, maybe some level two, can move to maybe ideally level five, where it's more. I feel like the most practical step that most people should take is just to stop using chat chit and clod and just start using codex or a clock code. That's like step one. And like people get intimidated by this stuff,

like code like this is like a programming, Sounds very nerdy. Yeah. But in reality, it's just like, you're still just chatting with the AI, right? And like when I use codex like 80% of time, I'm not building, I'm not coding or doing any of that. It's just more powerful because, you know, these two apps, they have, you can build skills for them. They have access to APIs and integration so they can actually get work done across your other apps. And they're just like way more powerful than just default chat chip between Cloud.

So basically like what I recommend you do is use codex or Cloud code code code. and set up a new folder, call it like personal OS or whatever you want to call it, just call it a folder, right? And then I asked it like, what are the main workflows that it can do here? And you can kind of see here that, um... Oh, you asked Codex to come up with... Well, this is all the stuff that I've set up over time, right? So basically like, you know, as we talked about, it uses like various different skills and skills are just text files to do work for me. So like, for example, to edit my newsletter.

It has this skill to shape a rough note into transcript, and then it also uses other skill called last 30 days to add fresh research and then it uses another skill called no AI slop to make the writing clear I like that what if you don't ask it for last 30 days it's just gonna yeah I think somewhere in the skill I have some instructions like hey do some online searches to you know make sure I'm like you know saying stuff that sets you true another thing like people should recognize is that there's a lot of like open source skills that are really good you know so last 30 days is like some open source skill that I found on GitHub and it does like searches across like Reddit X and all these other platforms

genius, I need this. And then it uses an OIA slob to, and then eventually the newsletter posts gets to a good enough point, and then I used social writer skill to turn newsletter into a bunch of threads. So that's for newsletter, and then for podcasts, it's a very similar format. Like, I use this podcast prep skill to research guests that I have. And then, you know, as part of making stuff on YouTube,

you know this is better in any way. You're going to have a really good thumbnail title and copy. So I have a whole skill to just, like, test different thumbnails and titles. And then, and then based on that, I decided the podcast is even worth doing, and then I do like a post-production skill, like turning into all kinds of stuff. Yeah, sponsors.

We both have sponsors. It's like a lot of work. So I asked it to keep track of my sponsors through different skills and also help me draft and brainstorm sponsor copy, help me, you know, schedule stuff on the inventory and all that kinds of stuff. Yeah. So I guess the TRDR is like these workflows are done by connecting different skills together that you build.

And like for all these skills, I don't actually... Can you show? One of them, like, just go into like strategy, for example, where it's built and, like, walking through how you built it. Yeah, sure. Let's just say open, personal. I think one of the most useful skills that I built is just like a personal advisor skill. Because I guess my wife is tired of me asking for advice all the time. It literally is just a text file, right?

So it's a text file to give me an honest advice. And, you know, you're my trusted life and business advice. And then keep your tone warm, right? And then this stuff is. like a little bit more fancy there's like evals and stuff but we can talk about that later learnings md is that your file yeah it's codex itself has memory but i asked it to save another text file called learnings like md to save memory from our past conversations so it kind of learns about me this is kind of the self-improving stuff that we talk about with something they've released yesterday

because they release something when it now remembers all of your conversations like has this expanded memory do people still need learnings md well i don't actually know how their like system-wide memory works So maybe you don't need it, but like it's also useful for me to read Learnings.mD and see what kind of like conferences I've had with it in the past. For learnings MD file, do you ask it, how do you prompt so that every conversation contributes to that file? Yeah. So you also have to think about managing the context window because you don't want it to be like super long. Yeah. Right. So I have some instructions saying like, hey, like after every conversation you should ask me like you should recognize kind of like patterns and like learnings that you have. And,

ask me if I want to save learnings.md. So I asked me. And there are more strategic learnings, right? Because this is your personal advisor. So after every single conversation, it uses best judgment, whether it wants to ask me or not. And then I also ask it, like, if you're going to save it there, just like have a few lines. Just like have one or two sentences. Like don't, don't run like huge paragraphs. So that's the way, it's so interesting with these, like how, what, what AI actually remembers about you? Yeah. Because sometimes you think maybe it remembers everything. And you can, you think maybe it remembers everything. And you hope that it does, but in reality it doesn't or remember stuff that you don't really care

about. Yeah. So these learnings and these, so you basically prompted it saying, where does this prompt go? Does it go? It's adjusting the skill file, like the the main skill file of like, hey, before you before you answer any questions I have, like just quickly skim through learnings.md. And once we finish conversation or like in the middle of conversation, we see something, ask me if this should be added to this learnings MD file. And the skill runs across everything that you do. Because skill is triggered based on like your description, your skill description in the top, which is like,

so here I say like use whenever the user is stuck on decision or working through a hard problem or asking for a gut check. But sometimes it doesn't trigger on, sometimes I have to like actually do like slash, give me a slash personal advisor. Yeah. And then ask the question. How do you come up with all the like for me when I'm building this?

Yeah. There is so much brain work going into this like when I trigger the skill. All the nuances. Do you use codex for that as well? Yeah, I never write any of these files mannally. But you still, no, it's even not writing. It's just thinking about all the nuances. Yes, I can think about a lot of things for you.

But then there are so many different things that you want to remember, like when to trigger the skill. What types of information you want to go there? Oh, maybe, and then you wake up in the middle of the night. Oh, I forgot to add this to it. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And Anthropic actually has a skill to build skills too.

Personally, I'm like very worried about just like it becoming sloppify. like it just like starts adding stuff. I don't even read it. And it becomes like super sloppy. Yeah, because you also want to make sure you're in control of whatever it's in the skill. And if AI just build a huge skill for you, then you don't have time to read it. So my, so my, I have like a skill editor skill. It's very basic.

It just like looks for like duplicate instructions or like slop content and try to remove it. Like I tell you try to keep my all my skills to like one page max. So I can actually read through it and see if it makes sense or not. Let's take a deeper look at what's next. Yeah. So, so, so, yeah, so like update the plan and then, and then like, so for this personal advisor thing, I have my, you know what, why don't I just ask it to? Can you read my plan Google Doc and share its overall structure without sharing confidential info? So, so basically like, and this is just the way I do it, like, I have my actual plan or like, you know, my business plan or whatever in the Google Doc. And like I find it's very useful to as creator to like have some principles to help make decisions.

So basically it's like a one pager with my goal, my principles, like background my business positioning and some other stuff like energy and other stuff, right? Like I don't know what your goal, but my goal is just to like make X amount of money and just like actually be in control of my time and who I want to meet with. And then my principles are like like I have a problem where I tend to take on too much stuff. So I ask you to like just keep the main thing, the main main thing. like that's one of principles like which is like you know people invite you to conferences and like you know do all kinds of like try to write write a book or do all kinds of stuff and just and just you have to say no because you want to you should focus on making a newsletter and a podcast great

yeah and it's so hard to stay focused right but but because I have that principle so when it gives me advice it has that principle in mind so you can kind of check me um and then the business stuff is more just like um you know like all the financial information and I think this is very one important section is like what gives me energy and what takes energy away and just like a couple of bullet points but like you know what gives me energy is like you know vibe coding with codex what takes energy away is like i don't know like doing too many zoom calls or something yeah so so like so i think i think it's very important like you don't have to be a creator to make this document right for any kind of of career you have just make this document uh and putting in google doc somewhere and then set up a skill to

references document when it gives you advice. And I think that like it's literally one of my most useful skills. It's like not super complicated, but like it helps me make a lot of decisions for better for worse. Most people use Claude like a search engine. They type it a question, they get an answer. Most times they're not really satisfied with it and they close the tab. I did the same thing for months and I was looking at people who were saying AI is changing their life and I'm like, hmm?

Then I spent one afternoon setting it up properly, uploaded a few files about how I think and how I work, and it completely changed. I wrote the whole process up step by step. You get it when you subscribe to my newsletter, Future Proof. It's free. The link is in the description. Yeah. Well, this is very powerful because then you can use it for anything that you do, so it adheres to your principles. Do you have a team?

I have like a video editor and a few contractors, but no, I don't have a full-time team. Have you ever tried building like an AI chief of staff? Yeah, I have one. Right now I'm using this thing called Ermus. Uh-huh. Yeah. Can you talk about this? It's like open claw, but it's like a little bit more reliable.

And there's like a team that built it. But you can also just set up in Codex too. But like I'm using Hermes right now because I like having it in my messaging apps, like in Telegram and like wherever I want to use it. How do you use it? Talk to me about that. Because I'm trying to build something. You are. I'm trying to build an AI chief of staff.

Yeah. Where first of all like my strategic decision making happens on Zoom. calls and in Telegram where I give feedback to my team and I say yes or no. Yeah. So I want AI to learn my strategic decision making style. Got it. And then I just talked to, you know, how I interviewed the front of Kalshi. And she has a team of developers, but they build this thing where it goes across all the

Slack chats they have every Sunday and tells her where the team is stuck, what was promised to be delivered, what hasn't been delivered. So somebody who just watches the whole operation and keeps everyone accountable. I see. Is that where you're trying to build it with Ermus? So you just have to think about where the inputs? What are the, what are you trying to do?

And what are the outputs, right? So the inputs for like any kind of business is probably like Slack. Yeah. And if you use Granola to record meetings, there's transcripts there. Just set up all that, just ask like codex or Hermes or whatever. Just set up all the integrations.

Be like, hey, can you hook up to my Granola? Can you hook up to my Slack? So for anyone who's at level two, let's say, and wants to get to level five, what are the steps they should be taken? I think this is the step number. really build something like a strategic mindset behind all of your AIs and projects and agents. Yeah. What are the next steps? So step number one is as I said, like you just actually use code

or a clock code just start using that instead of like the regular stuff. Right. Even projects like you yeah I I switched away from projects because like I set up all my projects here instead because like with a project if I want to edit and use that our post it spits out output and I have to copy and paste the output to to Google Doc. or like manually update stuff. But this stuff can just update Google Doc for me. So it saves a step. Right?

Makes sense. So now sometimes you use the right apps. And step two is to just ask the right questions. Like bring down your workflows and ask the right questions. Because I feel like a lot of people don't realize what this stuff is capable of doing. You know, like this stuff is basically capable of doing, in my opinion, any kind of knowledge work that you have, as long as you're patient with it and give it the right context. Yeah.

So just ask the right questions. And then set up the workflows. like we just talked about and then build the skills and integrations and then you're off to the radius. What do you think your life is going to look like in a year? A year. I've always worked in big companies

where there's always being a lot of cross-functional alignment, right? You've got to align different teams and different orgs. I really actually do really miss my engineering team and people that I enjoy working with at work. But I feel like these days, this is like the era of solo entrepreneurs and I feel like you can get so much time

with these agents, stuff that you don't want to do, that you can, it really frees up your time to do stuff that gives you more energy, you know? And even the stuff that's like strategic or gives me energy,

I feel like now I have this partner that knows me. Yeah. And can like just, like kind of be my pair programmer or like partner to kind of figure this stuff out. Do you think you're going to be working less or more in a year?

Well, I think I'm pretty type A, so I don't know if I'm going to completely check out. But I hope I'll be doing more work that I enjoy. And then I feel like if you and I retire would be a bored of a mind. go play golf or something but it would be very boring of course yeah i think we're gonna keep working yeah we'll keep working but we want to do work that we actually enjoy not like the montas copy and paste

or like you know that kind of work do you have any fear around AI uh i feel like i i fear that i'm getting dumber and and lay easier like if i'm on a flight and there's no like internet connection like that i just don't feel like working anymore because i don't have this partner you know that's evolution if you take our grandparents even my grandparents, like, they would never understand my lifestyle because they were constantly working. Yeah, yeah. It's either at home, like my mom raised me while working, while cooking, while cleaning, and I'm like, oh, I can't clean. I have, I need a cleaner.

You need a cleaner. Oh, I just bought a robot vacuum cleaner. I know how I lived without it. We're becoming laser and laser. That's true. Yeah. But I think it's actually, then we have more time for kids and meaningful time with the loved ones. I do worry about our kids because like, At least you and I grew up without AI, so we have like 20 years of doing the basic stuff,

like basic critical thinking skills and like, you know, learning how to do math and stuff. But I feel like our kids these days, they can start using codex right right now. Yeah. They talk to the, you know, computer. Yeah. So like, you kind of have to make sure they actually still learn their fundamentals. What's your solution to that? What are you trying to do with your kids that's different from how you are is?

I have kind of like a radical thing. I feel like they need to, maybe this is my bias, but I feel like they need to just like maybe start business or something and learn to real things because I feel like reflecting on my journey at my education I didn't learn a ton from the classroom I learned by like failing and like making mistakes yeah so I feel like they need to have the right mentality to do that kind of stuff and like they're hard to fail and just go out there and like try to do something do you ever have fear for your career yeah my career yeah I'm talking to a lot of creators these days and I see them at events and a lot of people think that creator economy is getting oversaturated because

Everyone is suddenly a creator because it's so much easier to create content. Do you think that might be a problem? I do think it's a problem because I see a lot of creators like just making a slop. They like to generate like 10 posts per hour and like the slop goes viral and it's kind of like this is heartening. Do you see that? But I feel like that I think that's why it's so important to find your principles and values. Because like I never want to be someone who just makes tons of slop even if it goes viral and makes me a lot of money. Yeah.

You know, but but I do think, but maybe people will get. get tired of a slop and people will be like, hey, I actually want human craft and human touch on this stuff. Let's finish with an action plan for someone who's trying to stay ahead in this AI era for the next week. What should they be doing? Okay. I think to stay ahead, get the $20 chat chappdpd plan, download codex, and just start

saving time and building workflows and building skills to save time and asking code to do it. Because I feel like that's more productive for you because you. you will immediately recognize that you can start saving time versus what a lot of people do, which is like they go on Twitter and try to like read all the news and like try to, you know, take some courses or something. Like switch from consumption mode to actual build mode.

Yeah. What if they come back and say, oh, I tried, but it didn't work. I don't know where you're talking about. It's so bad. It's so much easier to just do everything by yourself. Well, it does take longer. So it's interesting because like with AI, you have to set up the system first before you can see the fruit. of the output and it does take time to set the system but it probably only takes like one day

to do it right and you have to have some patience because uh even now with all this stuff i built it still cannot one shot exactly what i want so there's always kind of a back and forth and as long as your patient and you give it like feedback and tell you just save it in skills and memory it'll get better over over time yeah you know and unlike like an employee is never going to leave you it's going to be there's never going to leave you and it's only getting exponentially better yeah the model will get better single month yeah Peter at that Thank you so much. It was a very, very productive conversation.

Thanks, Maryna. That was great. Thank you for coming.