Silicon Valley Girl: AI, Tech and Career Growth - Top 1% Career Playbook: How to Get Hired in the AI Era
Episode Date: September 4, 2026Seven people who run companies employing more than 30,000 people answer the same question: who are you hiring right now? Sal Khan, Yamini Rangan, Aaron Levie, Luana Lopes Lara, Grant Lee, and Conor Gr...ennan get unusually specific about what they look for in you before the interview starts and what makes them say yes. And Ryan Roslansky, who ran LinkedIn for six years, opens up LinkedIn's own data. By the end, you have a step-by-step plan for getting hired in 2026.📩 Follow my Newsletter: https://siliconvalleygirl.beehiiv.com/p/7-skills-that-make-you-irreplaceable-adc6?utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=futureproof-sub&utm_content=7-skills𝕏 : https://x.com/siliconvalleymm🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/siliconvalleygirl/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinamogilko📌 My Companies & Products: https://Marinamogilko.co
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Breaking into the job market right now is harder than it has been.
in 37 years, harder than during the Great Recession.
244 people apply to the average open role.
And a great resume isn't enough anymore because a machine reads it before a person does.
If it doesn't have the right keywords, nobody ever sees it.
And if you load it up with keywords, it starts looking like AI wrote it and half of hiring
managers throw these out.
Some people tell you a degree still matters.
Others say it stopped mattering completely as long as you have three,
three specific skills. So what is actually going on? I asked people who run companies employing
more than 30,000 people and every one of them decides who gets in on a daily basis. By the end of this
video, you'll have a step-by-step plan for getting hired in 2026, skills they're hiring for,
what to bring instead of a resume, and the exact thing to say in the interview. And as a bonus,
you get numbers from inside LinkedIn on how fast your job is changing. You send their resume and then you
Maybe something comes back three weeks later.
Usually nothing does.
And you never actually find out what happened to it in between.
So I put that exact question,
Desal Khan, who runs Cannes Academy, and hires constantly.
And he was honest with me about it.
Imagine this.
Someone today graduates from Stanford,
pick your major, good major,
with a 3.9 GPA.
When I look at that resume, I say,
okay, probably smart, got into Stanford,
good GPA.
I don't know if those skills they learned are going to be directly transferable,
but there's probably someone I can work with.
Leadership skills, I don't know, looking at their GPA,
maybe, oh, yeah, okay, maybe they're the class vice president
or if they were the co-captain of the lacrosse.
Okay, maybe they have leadership skills.
I don't know.
But that's only you're kind of reading.
There's signals, not evaluation.
And what I normally do now when I see a resume,
even someone who's been working, no matter what they write,
I look for YouTube videos of them.
I look for some evidence of like, how do they communicate?
How do they?
And then you try to do it in an interview, which is just you only have a few hours to do it.
When we're hiring, my team is on your social media profiles the same afternoon.
We're asking around for references.
And we always end up on LinkedIn because that's where the real picture is.
So I put the question to Ryan Roslansky, who ran LinkedIn for six years and took it from 700 million members to 1.3 billion.
What does LinkedIn's own data say about where careers are going?
Since the beginning of LinkedIn, the feature that is requested most,
from members is show me what a typical career path is supposed to look like. LinkedIn, you have all this
data. So if I want to become a CFO or a CEO or an accountant or whatever, what is the path that
people take? And the reality is in the data, there is no such thing as a linear career path.
Like, it's all over the place. So the more that people first and foremost recognize that you have to
take your career into your own hands, there's no natural path that exists that you just get on,
I think is really, really important.
Right now it's more important than ever, though,
because skills are changing.
The types of skills are necessary for a specific role on LinkedIn
have changed north of 25% over the last couple of years alone.
We expect they'll change by 70% by 2030,
largely influenced by AI and new tools and new ways of doing these professions.
So I often, when I talk to people about what they should do with their career,
It's less about where do you want to be in five years.
And it's more about over the next few months,
like what new skills do you want to learn?
Because to your point, these roles are flattening.
Generalists are more and more where people are going these days.
So we always thought that the extension of your LinkedIn profile
isn't just where you went to school, where you've worked, what skills you have,
but the ability to demonstrate the actual knowledge that you have in your head by posting on LinkedIn.
Being findable and being chosen are two complete.
different things. And the gap between them is exactly where people get stuck for months
without ever understanding why. Because what employers are scanning for isn't sitting on your
profile at all. I heard a version of it from everybody I spoke to, but Yamini Rangan is the one
who laid the whole thing out in a single answer. She runs HubSpot, a publicly traded company,
thousands of employees, and she names three specific things she hires for in 2026 in the era of AI.
The way I would frame it, we are looking for explorers.
And I'll tell you what that means.
I think there's a fundamental shift that's happening with AI where not everybody knows exactly how to go from point A to point B.
You know, if you knew exactly and think about them as map readers, right?
You know exactly what point A is, point B is.
You read the map because someone has figured out the path and you follow the directions and you get there.
That is what we were doing because you had playbooks that worked and you were,
you know, really clear about following the playbook.
Today, with AI, there is no map.
So you have to get comfortable with being an explorer.
And there are a few skill sets that are important.
The first one is that you have to have almost a scientist mindset.
And I look for people who are comfortable experimenting
and having a hypothesis, proving if the hypothesis is right or wrong,
versus saying there's a set path, right?
like experimentation, moving quickly, having a hypothesis and proving whether you're right or wrong,
that is like skill number one. And I look for examples of when they have done it or how they
have comfort around it. That's like number one thing that I look for. The second is just this
passion and curiosity to go deep in the work. What is happening is that in order for AI to be
effective, you've got to be close to the ground. You have to know what parts of the workflow are
broken, what parts of the workflow can actually get value from AI. And you've got to get like
really close to the ground. And I talk to customers, but we also do a GEMBA walks. We look at like
how people are using different technology. I'm looking for people like that who are very close to the
ground, close to the process who can actually make changes. That's the second one. And then the third
is really what, you know, I would say as just curiosity and customer orientation. Again, my focus has been,
don't forget about AI, use it to solve something for your customers. So can you be super curious
and ask the right questions of, you know, your customers to get the right thing? And if you have
the ability to experiment, the ability to stay close to work, the ability to stay curious,
then you're actually going to thrive in the world of AI.
If you are stuck with your playbook, if you are very comfortable with going from point A to point
B in a path that someone else is prescribed, then you're just not going to be successful in the world
of AI. That's what I'm looking for.
Here is how I test for that when I'm the one hiring. You don't have to write code. You just
have to know which tool does the thing. It's on the list for every single role we hire for,
either the skill itself, or a real appetite, to go and learn it. For example, my YouTube producer
or built something this year that a few years ago would have taken an actual engineer.
And we keep building stuff like that.
Because when I was hiring them, I was looking for this itch to build something, to automate
something.
And they absolutely love that because that gives them more time to actually think strategically
and do more fun stuff.
Another guest that I wanted to highlight in this video is Graham Lee.
He co-founded gamma that we use all the time.
And I asked him, do you have anyone on this team who does this best?
And by that, I mean automating different processes.
and he didn't name an engineer at all.
I feel like nearly all employees are what I would still define as generalists today,
even though they spike in different areas.
So, you know, for instance, our head of design, exceptionally talented designer, very visual,
but he also knows how to code.
And he was coding even before, like, you know, vibe coding was more accessible to most designers.
But the fact that he can now ship something like end-to-end, test it,
like get early versions into hands of users, that's a superpower, right?
And so he can cross domains where, you know, traditionally it'd be a designer or a
UX researcher that does a little bit, some of this like early, you know, sort of investigation
or like early research.
He can do that himself, develop the early prototype, ship the early prototype, get something
into the hands of users to actually give feedback on and oftentimes then ship something
into production, like almost like completely end to end.
That just wasn't really possible before.
But for us, like we try to look for that, the spirit of like a generalist across every
function, whether it's, you know, sales, market.
engineering, product design.
And I think that allows you to have a relatively lean team that can, again, like,
play across multiple domains at any given point in time.
And I think in general, that just means a team that can be pretty collaborative to
because you have deeper empathy for what each function can bring to the table.
And like when you're bringing something to an engineer, for instance,
you've already done so much work to think through like, okay,
how do I make this right so the handoff is as seamless as possible?
These things, I think, are hard to quantify.
but when you have a team of generalists, there is some magic and working together.
And you're probably thinking, so I keep doing my current job perfectly.
And at the same time, I teach myself technical skill for a job I don't even have yet.
That's two jobs and almost nobody has room for two jobs.
So asked Aaron Levy, how technical you actually have to be.
He's been running boxed, again, a publicly traded company for 20 years and he hires across marketing,
sales, finance, engineering, all of it.
He drew a very specific line.
and then he told me exactly which tools to open first.
When you're hiring now, how is it different from hiring five years ago?
What are you looking for in a candidate?
So I think right now is a great time to be going deeper technically.
It doesn't mean like you have to like be vibe coding all the time and building entire products.
But you should try and really understand what is the agent doing.
How does it work?
How does MCP work?
How do CLYs work?
How do skills work?
And getting really well versed on that.
The people that are doing that will have a huge leg up in the next kind of three to five years
because all of these companies will be hiring for people that can do that within their workflows.
So we're definitely looking for people whose technical acumen is growing,
whose AI sort of saviness and fluency is growing.
You want to be using these tools, you know, in your free time as much as possible,
so you, again, understand kind of how they're working and what's going on.
At the same time, I don't think a lot of the – I think it actually still matters
that you have like some degree of domain expertise, like,
you're really good at marketing.
You understand what customers want.
You're really good at selling.
You're good at product management and interviewing customers and assessing markets.
Like those are these like timeless sort of, you know,
skills that transcend any kind of technology revolution.
And so AI is just a way of augmenting those domain skills.
So in some respects, any role that we're hiring for,
marketing, sales, finance, engineering, et cetera,
we need all of those domain skills,
but also we need you to now be increasingly kind of,
AI fluent or a little bit more technical.
Can you recommend top
three apps that people should be using?
You know, I mean,
it probably won't be much of a surprise.
I would download Codex. I would download Cloud.
Even for non-technical people?
Yeah, 100%.
Well, especially, partly is because
Codex is becoming more
inclined
toward knowledge work use cases.
And what should they be doing with it? Like, automate a process
within their... Automated process. Give it just
a crazy problem and see what happens.
Like, go do this research in this market.
You know, wire up multiple MCP servers to data sources you have.
So you understand, how does it work?
Like, how is it querying that other system?
How does it, how is it accessing my email?
Like, oh, scary.
Oh, no, actually, I understand it now.
Like, like, get a sense of how that all kind of is working together.
So I think just any one of the top AI tools for productivity, maybe for coding, is a good way to get started.
And it'll already get you like 90% of the way there.
So Codex?
Probably Claude Co-Work, Perplexity.
Like, these are some just easy ones to just get started with.
Yeah.
And you'll have a good sense of kind of what the market looks like.
There is one more side of this market I want to talk about, and that's junior roles.
Job openings in the U.S. fell to $6.5 million at the end of last year, the lowest level since 2020,
and 43% of recent graduates are now working in jobs they don't require the degree they paid for.
So the bottom rung has genuinely got harder to reach.
But the more of those conversations I had, the more it looked like what's actually shrinking is
the junior role as we used to define it.
The version that was basically a list of tasks, somebody handed to you.
Luana Lopez-Lara co-founded Kalshi, a prediction market whose entire business is running the
world on the numbers and pricing what happens next.
So basically they're predicting all types of things.
And nobody has better tools for seeing where all of this is going.
How are you hiring these days?
How has it changed from the last year?
We like being very lean.
So we were 170 people at the moment.
And people that work very well at Kaoshi, they are very low ego and willing to learn a lot.
I think we're very direct culture.
We really like being efficient with time.
So that means like feedback is like, I don't like something you did.
I'll tell you right now and I'll be honest about it and you have to be in that kind of like
cultural side is very important for us.
But realistically, the true things that matter the most is just working really hard
and having like a commitment to to work above everything else.
When I say commitment to work is more about when we ask you to do something.
And we trust you if something, we can trust that it's going to be done great.
It's not about a number of hours.
It's not about these things.
Is it about AI as well?
It is about, so in the engineering side, in the engineering interview, we put a lot of time
into it in kind of like, now you can use AI in the interviews and it's completely fine.
And all of that.
And actually in a lot of the systems review that we do interviews on systems review or like
previous project review is kind of a big component of that because now a lot of the
things that we used to look at like two years before of like, oh, can someone actually do
this or do that?
like whatever like that's just not relevant we are actually talking about um in design now I
told you that we're trying to get more and more on the figure out how to use AI in a better way
in design in our design interviews we're starting to be like has this person used a lot of
so it's spreading to design what about knowledge work less so we need to do one thing actually
funnily enough in the legal team we're starting to do that a lot too to be like because we have
so many yeah cases and litigation we're trying we're starting to be a lot more like
like, how have you used AI for this? How would you use AI for that? It's less about,
and it kind of adds, goes back to the willingness to learn. I think it's less about them having
the answers or having used it to do something amazing before, but more like, are they willing to
do it? Because we have, again, like our engineering team, what we're doing is that we're kind
of putting them the AI group in like design. And then they're going to go into legal and
try to kind of like, how do we help them to do it. And we just want people to be open-minded.
And the answer is like, what they used to, how they used to work is not the way that we're
going to work at Kausha and the world's going to do, and we just need them to be open-minded
and have, like, low ego to figure out, like, oh, this thing that I thought I was very good at
is actually, I don't need to do anymore. When we were hiring a social media manager this year,
every single question asked was some version of the same thing. How would you automate this?
Where does AI go into this process? And honestly, I don't need anyone to have the right answer.
If somebody says, I'm not sure, but here is how I tested. Here are the two things I try first.
That's exactly what I want to hear. Because in the 10 seconds, it takes them to say,
say it, I can see the entire shape of how they think.
Connor Grannon told me something very close to that.
Doesn't that just break your heart when people are struggling to find work, right?
And with AI, I think that we're in a zone right now where the opportunity is absolutely colossal.
For this reason, it requires understanding AI and really using AI well is an incredible tool
because you don't have to learn anything.
You don't need to be a coder.
You don't need to be anything.
Literally all you need to be able to do is talk like a human and everybody can do that.
That's number one.
But number two, and this is the really important thing, it's not enough to just go into a job interview and say, I know how do you use AI?
Because everybody can say that.
And it's sort of like Excel thing.
Everybody uses it, but people are using it to make a grocery list or something like that, not to transform, you know, how a hedge fund operates.
The Holy Grails, can you invent the work of everybody around you?
So if you go into a job interview, and this is what I tell everybody to do, go into a job interview prepared with what they do.
Like, they'll have given you a sense of what you should do.
So go in there and say like, hey, here's my domain expertise.
But let me just show you what I would do with AI and how I would reinvent this process.
Because folks, and you know this too, right?
Anyone can do this with Claude Gemini chat chabit.
You don't have to come up with it.
You just have to monitor and steer it.
So say, here's how I would change this role to even potentially put me out of a job, right?
I mean, senior leaders would love that.
But here's the really holy grail, this is the kicker on all this.
This is the kicker.
It's such a chat chatea thing to save my goal.
I take it back.
But here's the really important thing.
Say, and here's how the team can use this in a very different way.
Here's the exact workflow.
Here's what I would change.
Here's how I would think about it.
Because we want to upskill a team.
You don't want just hire somebody to come in and do AI differently.
You want somebody to come in and change the way it's done around that person.
That, to me, is the holy grail.
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Everything in this video comes back to being visible somewhere,
and it works in both directions because the only reason you get to hear any of this
is that founders now show up on podcasts and on socials.
10 years ago, I had really hard time explaining
what I was doing in Silicon Valley.
Today, founders come here and tell you exactly who they hire.
So if you're a job hunting right now,
leave a line about yourself in the comments.
People really do read them.
And I know that a lot of my guests read the comments
after the podcast goes live.
This is a moment in time where even though in some ways
it's hard to get a job,
it's also a place, we're in a moment
where it's actually still easy to differentiate yourself.
Like today, if I put on a job application that I have a web page, people are like, big deal.
But in 1996, if you said, I have a web page, people are like, ooh, let's hire this person.
They know what's about to happen.
Now you can say I come with 100 agents.
I come with 100 agents.
Or why don't you interview my agents first?
Or do you have an agent that would like to talk to mine?
Or here's my portfolio of AI generated art.
Or here are my workflows that I've automated.
Or here's a loom video I created a day in my life where I have automated my life.
agents. If you know anyone like that, I would be interested in hiring them for Khan Academy tomorrow.
But all in all, here's what surprised me once I put all of this together. Not one of them
told me that a resume was the thing that got somebody hired. None of them pointed out a degree
either or at years of experience. Every single person asked described somebody whose work they had
already seen before the interview ever started, which is why none of this can wait until
the week you start applying. So here are five things, and you can begin all of them this
month. First, take one process inside your job you already have and rebuild it with AI,
like properly, until it genuinely saves time. That's your demo and that's the single most
useful thing you can do right now. Second, write about it publicly. Like, come on, I've been
telling everyone to start being active on socials many, many years ago. Now, with LinkedIn,
I think the awkwardness of it goes away because Instagram is more like style, day-to-day,
YouTube is long-form, latent is where your professional content lives. Because every single one
of those people goes looking for evidence of you before the interview and your posts on
X and LinkedIn are the ones that keep working while you sleep. Third, try to go one level deeper,
technically that your role strictly requires. The way Aaron described it, just understanding how
the tools actually work underneath. Fourth, keep two or three real examples of experiments you run,
including the ones that failed because people like Yamini, who runs HubSpot, are going to ask you
exactly for that. And fifth, when you finally get into the room, don't spend any time.
defending your resume spend it showing how you would rebuild a process because the whole narrative
that's had companies now is let's make our company suitable for agents let's make sure things that can
be automated or automated so you have to be the one presenting this opportunity for them i really hope
this was useful and i don't know if you're seeing this but what i'm seeing from my perspective is that
i is creating more jobs more new jobs than it's taking away so it is a social elevator for a lot of people who've been
waiting for the next opportunity. And if you are the one who wants to jump on the social elevator,
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