Smosh Mouth - #107 - The Angela And Shayne Show

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

Angela and Shayne do a deep dive of each other! Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/SMOSHMOUTH to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today.  0:00 Intro 5:46 What are our vibes? 8:53 Sponsor! 10:13 Getting to know each other PODCAST: https://bit.ly/SmoshMouthSpotify https://smo.sh/SmoshMouthiHeart https://bit.ly/SmoshMouthApple  SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Angela Giarratana // https://www.instagram.com/angelagiovanagiarratana/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Selina Garcia Editor: Vida Robbins Producer: Amanda Lehan-Canto, Shayne Topp, Selina Garcia Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner, Josie Bellerby Stage Manager: Alex Aguilar Prop Master: Courtney Chapman, Abby Schmidt Art Coordinator: Bridgette Baron Set Dresser: Carly Hough Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Audio Utility: Dina Ramli Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Videographer: James Hull Camera Operator: Eric Wann Assistant Director: Oliver Wehlander Executive Vice President of Production: Amanda Barnes Senior Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Manager: Jonathan Hyon Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Caroline Smith Director of Post Production: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran DIT/AE: Beni Kimuene Post Production Coordinator: Ariana Martinez IT: Tim Baker IT & Equipment Coordinator: Lopati Ho Chee Sound Editor: Gareth Hird Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Senior Motion & Branding Designer: Christie Hauck Graphic Designers: Ness Cardano, Monica Ravitch Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Channel Operations Coordinator: Sabrina Lieberman Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Merchandising Manager: Mallory Myers Social Media Manager: Kim Wilborn Social Media Coordinator: Margaux Bernales Brand Partnership Manager: Chloe Mays Operations Manager: Selina Garcia Talent Coordinator: Danielle Moses People Operations Specialist: Katie Fink Front Office Assistant: Sara Faltersack CEO: Alessandra Catanese Executive Producers: Anthony Padilla, Ian Hecox EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Associate Producer, Special Projects: Rachel Collis Executive Assistant: Katelyn Hempstead OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Pit: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames SmoshAlike: https://bit.ly/Sub2SmoshAlike FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh

Hi, welcome to Smoshmouth. I'm Shane. No. Yeah. Can you just do it again? Yeah. Hi, welcome to Smoshmouth. I'm Shane. I'm Angela. And I'm Angela. Too loud? Nailed it. And we don't have a special guest, so you don't have to say that part.

Okay. Could we just do all that again? Sure. I'm a little nervous. Yeah, it's fine. Okay. Welcome to Smoshmouth. I'm Shane. And I'm Angela. And we have a very special guest, no one. This is good. This is good. This is good. This is good stuff. We're off to a hot start. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the show. Uh, this is trippy. This is really trippy. I'm very nervous. Why? Because of how trippy it probably is for you. It's not like that wild. Okay. You just said this is trippy. It is not like, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, we knew this was happening. Yeah. No, 100%. We've gone for months. And I prepped. Yeah.

My, did you listen to my episode with Damien and Amanda? Yeah. I prepped. That was my prep when being like, what is Shane like? Okay. Yeah, and I feel as if I'm ready for this challenge. But I'm also just ready. I feel like, we talked about this.

I feel like I never just sit down with you without a game in front of us. Yeah. And we just do, we do so much like group stuff. Oh, I guess we had Gartick phone. Yeah. Where we were like hanging out. But rarely are you one-on-one with people. Yeah.

So like Amanda's kind of the only person that I really feel like I've just had so much conversations with. Truly. When we started Smoshmouth, I had not had many of those moments with Amanda. Yeah. So it's trippy. And then you like, you learn your dynamic. I also just the pattern of the show. I love this show, but it always takes me a bit because it is so different than all of our other stuff because it's just hanging out.

It truly is. And just telling yourself like you're enough, you don't have to do bits. Like I already did a bit right at the top. I didn't need to. I could have just fucking ring up. You're allowed to do bits. Wait, I'm dying to see what's behind me. I was trying to ignore it.

Oh, yeah, yeah. The art made a board. And this is who you are. Whoa. So there's Shakespeare. For those listening, there's a portrait of Shakespeare. And that looks like a Yasafide Shakespeare. That's a pretty good Shakespeare.

I don't think he looked like that. I think he's wearing the hats you guys. Ah. God, that's cute. really put their all in that. He looks like chiseled with like... I feel like that's the standard Shakespeare

portrait. He looks like a step away from death if you see like the real. That looks like he's like... Do you think that's how... Do you think it's one of those things where we don't know how he actually looked or is that how he actually looked?

I mean, some people, sometimes, have you heard the theory? That he's not real? That he just never wrote that stuff. Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, I'm hop skipping to jump away from believing that. Or that it was like multiple people

and it kind of compiled it and were like, yeah, This is Shakespeare. Who fucking knows. Who knows if you even looked like that? Plagiarism had to go crazy back in the Renaissance. Oh, my God. You could just be like, I wrote that.

And they'd be like, well, we have no proof. Even like kids writing essays, they didn't have chat, GBT. Like, if you used, I can't even think about being a kid now when you can have to write an essay. And, yeah, anyway. Oh, my God, that's my favorite one. Yeah, you in the lime shirt dressed as me. Wow. And then hamcake.

Yeah, that looks disgusting. That looks awful. I thought it was salmon cake. at first, but no, that's Ham King. No, that's a different sketch that we will write soon. We kept Hank Green's $2 bill there. That's awesome. Yeah, very cool. And then your baby. Wow! What a

great picture of Cho! And then Selena wrote, are they compatible hosting a podcast together? Gun to your head. Are we compatible? I think we got this. Water gun to your head. Water gun to your head. I think any two, any combination of two people at Smosh could host a podcast and it would crush.

Okay. I agree. Okay I'm trying to think the weirdest I don't know if me and Ian could do it I think you could do it I think people would be there for it And Ian would be like Been on any good freeways lately

No Ian It's like the Chase Sapphire Rewards program Yeah how he's now hating on it He just traveled with Ian And he wouldn't shut the fuck up Ian will like Be the bearer of bad

news so often where you're like, oh, yeah, this cool thing. He's like, no, you shouldn't do that. It's actually bad. Wait, do you actually do that? You shouldn't do that. No, it's actually a huge scam. You could put your credit card down. He's like, are you a part of that rewards program? Whoa, dude, you're losing a lot of money. Yeah. And then you just got to kind of sit in it. Yeah, man, you're getting screwed over, unfortunately. All right. Cool. Thanks, man. Anyway, I'll pick up the bill. Huge bummer. Anyways, I'll put my card down. Just don't look at it, man. Okay, and then there's, I've seen your side before, but it's really good. It's nice to look at them all.

Yeah, it's, it's sick. It's really cute. No, our art department really is incredible. They're doing so much stuff all the time. They do a great job. I love the color of the curtains. Yeah, it's really, I love the burnt orange. Yeah, no, I love a good burnt orange.

In your original Smoshmouth photo shoot, aren't you guys in roller skates? Not in roller skates, but we're in just like very, like, 70s. Are we in roller skates? No. Why do I have in my head that you guys are in roller skates? It's very 70s aesthetic. Okay, okay. We were kind of going for like Sunny and Share type of vibes.

Oh, I love that. And I know I'm only doing like a couple episodes, but we have a whole photo shoot planned, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whole, like five looks. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be huge. We're going to put them on billboards around L.A. Yeah, that's really good. With no context.

Yeah. Just photos. Injury? Call here. Yeah, injury. Call here. That'll be great. All right.

Well, we're just hanging out today. We're actually going to see if I think we. Like, like, what goes on underneath the fun, competitive, fun stuff? Like, are we, are we a good vibe? Yeah, yeah. Like, we're going to see how these next few weeks are going to go. Yeah, a lot of people think we have sibling energy. Uh-huh.

Why do you think that is? I think. Is it because you don't want to kiss me? Yeah, that could be part of it. Yeah, that could be one of them, I guess. I see the sibling stuff all the time, and I think it's because, very early on with you starting here at Smosh, I think we both clocked like, oh, we both can trash talk.

Yeah. And we do not mind it. Like, we think it's funny. Yes. And I think there's other people, too, that we, you know that you can do it, like Trevor. Yeah, Trevor's like that. But what's funny is, I think fans, some fans don't, don't clock it as quickly. Yeah, we've talked about that.

They're like, they're like, they're being mean to Angela. Like, Shane is being so mean to her. And same with Trevor. I saw a TikTok where it was like, it was like, Trevor's in a video, and they're being mean to him. It's so great. And I'm like, if only they knew, like, when we cut, we're, like, laughing about it. Like, that's funny to us.

Like, getting roasted is funny, and roasting other people is funny. But I only do it with people that I'm like, okay, it's going to land. Yeah, it's like when you see those dogs and they're just like, you hear, like, at the dog park, I remember there was two different sounds. When dogs are, like, hardcore playing, and it's like, it sounds kind of crazy, but you can tell the difference between, like, Like, Right. And like, yeah.

So that was a little ASMO. That was really good. Still playful. You're like Caesar Milan. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You understand their behavior.

I used to love Caesar Milan videos. Dude, that was the vibe for a while. For a while. In the 2000s, we were all, everyone was obsessed. And he really wasn't doing much besides just being like, it's not the dog. It's you. It's you. You're the problem.

And every time it hit. It was incredible. Did he, it, there was. like a situation where it was like, oh, he's a hoax or he's a scam, right? I always feel like sometimes like 10 years later, you'll be like, oh, but did you hear like it was all scam? There was like four dog handlers back there? Yeah, it was actually

puppets. It was actually not. They would swap out the dog with a better behaved dog. Like, I feel like that shit happened all the time. That would be crazy if they had twins but dogs. Do other animals have twins? Why have I never thought of that? Me either. They have to. They have to. Wait, hold on. Are we the only species with twins?

like identical twins? Like born at the same, like, can two birds be born out of their mother's puss at the same time? I guess I wouldn't know, like you see it, you see like a horde of penguins. It's not like you're like, well, they're all, some of them got to be twins, right? Which one of you are twins? Come on, which one are you identical twins? They're all moving exactly the same way.

Maybe they're all the same. Yeah. Going to see a bunch of penguins? Which one of you guys are twins? Which one of you guys are twins? So this is what you're in for for the next few weeks is a lot of people. Penguin jokes, some Caesar Milan jokes. A lot of twin shit.

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That's ZOC, doc.com slash smoshmouth. Zockdoc.com slash smoshmouth. What was that? Back to the show. I had a, okay, so I was thinking of some questions these past few days. First off, you're drinking a cup of coffee. Who do we think is drinking more coffee, like, lately? Like, on the regular.

Me or you? Me or you. Okay, let's talk about it. All right. So is this, is this your first cup? Yeah. Which is why I'm drinking it now, because usually I try to have my first cup before we roll. And sometimes I don't time it right.

Do you just straight black coffee? Mm-hmm. Nothing in it? First cup is black. First cup is black. Yeah. Okay. Throughout the day, we had more treats to it.

Okay. Do you like, are they separated or do you kind of just keep refilling the cup? Depends, depends. But I, yeah. Okay, so you like a hot coffee all the time is what I've noticed about you. I can do it.

I like a cold brew. Oh, really? I do a cold brew. Because I feel like when we take an afternoon coffee order, you're getting something warm, usually. Yeah, it depends. In the afternoon, I never feel like I finish it. It's also, it's tough because, like,

if I'm doing Reddit stories or something, I'm afraid of, like, ordering, like, a latte because if there's milk, I think that affects how you talk. You think? Right? Doesn't it kind of like... I know that it affects like the way you sing.

Like it dehydrates you no matter what. It can kind of affect speech a little bit, make it a little bit harder. I've heard. So I just kind of take that. So I feel like I sometimes order like an iced coffee or cold brew. But I think it varies. I'll feel differently. Top of the day, you're having a black?

Top of the day, hot coffee. I make my own. I do the pour over. I have the chemX, the hourglass thing. And I make like a pretty decent amount. And I do over the course of like from, When I wake up to probably like 11 a.m. I'm drinking that whole thing.

That whole thing? Yeah. So, like, now that's like two or three cups that it fills up. I think you drink more coffee than me. But I kind of stop usually by noon. I rarely drink coffee in the afternoon. You don't have your 4 p.m. cup? I don't really do a 4 p.m. cup that much.

My 4 p.m. cup is more important than my 8 a.m. I might drink more coffee in the morning, but I stop at a certain point. I think you drink more coffee throughout the last. whole day so we might be kind of tied yeah but also it is it is interesting because I think my culture around caffeine completely shifted when I started working here I think I don't I think it's a brain thing I don't think it has anything to do with um how much coffee I like I think like for some reason at the top of every video it's like I can have a placebo it could really be like not it's the ritual of it like I need like a little something to be like and we begin right um like

even like there's a whole thing right now my friend will berner he's a star kid but he was on broadway and he was like everyone on broadway needs a celsius before the show yeah and now it's just becoming a thing where like you just yeah like it's just wild though because it's just your brain being like okay i'm about to do this thing like a performer thing i don't know what it is but being like i need to like spice it up i i only recently and i i i don't touch is energy drinks right but recently I've done a couple and it's because we had a couple times so we were in Canada

Yumi, Courtney and a few others and we had a show that ended it like it ended pretty early but then we went to another improv show we watched dropout do improv and it ended 1130 and it ended at 1130 and then we knew we had to leave for the plane at 4.30 in the morning so all of us collectively decided

we're just not going to go to bed we realized that that previous nights the parties had been ending at about two or three. So we're like, if we go out and we talk to all these people that we just watch to perform, we're going to be talking to them for a bit.

It's going to, like, if we don't get out before one, it's not worth it. We recognize we're all going to at max get sleep for like an hour and a half, two hours. So you might as well, our logic was you might as well just power through. I know that ultimately any amount of sleep

is better than power through. I don't buy that at all. I think any amount of sleep is better for you. No. It's better health-wise. You might feel shittier because you, like, are falling asleep and coming back up. You think?

I think sleep is one of those things where, like, pretty much as much as you can get. It's, yeah, there's a limit of how much sleep you can start oversleeping, and that's bad. But generally. I wonder, though, if you're getting an hour, if you're even hitting REM, and if it was even worth it. Because if it's not REM, I don't even know what the fuck REM is, but I learned what REM, like, someone told me about, you hit REM. And now I'm like, well, if I didn't get enough REM, What even is REM? I'm not even entirely sure either, but I need it.

But I also need to know if birds can have twins. Yeah, can birds have twins? What is REM? We're asking the real questions here. But that night, I was like, all right, I'm going to drink a Red Bull. Oh, yeah, I did see you drink a Red Bull. And I drank a Red Bull, and I got through that night. Yeah.

I was like, I am not the type. Did you feel buzzed? I definitely felt a little crazy. I wasn't even drinking any alcohol that night, but I was like, whoa, like, I'm feeling this. Because I do not drink them. And then recently I did the show, the Dred Show at Dynasty. And our show is at 7.30 p.m. We had filmed all day here.

So I was like, oh, man, I'm feeling a little sleepy. I need to be up and like aware. So I drink a Red Bull right before going out on stage. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. And I was amped for that show. And then I got home and I went to bed at like midnight, right? And I was like, oh, yeah, it's like I'm able to sleep on caffeine. I woke up at 5.30 in the morning.

I woke up at 5.30, like, and I was like, already my mind was like, have you thought about this? Have you thought about this? You should be pissed off about this. And I was like, whoa. Like, I woke up. My brain was already mad about stuff. And I was like, what is going on? So much about me. I was like, what is going on? I usually wake up and I'm an early morning person normally, but I wake up and you just have that moment where you're just like, what's going on? like, all right. I haven't had that since I was 12. I've never woken up where my brain is moving at that pace. I was like, damn. I might get emotional. Maybe that's my problem. A drinking caffeine later in the day is bad for you. You can drink, I think you can

drink a lot of caffeine as long as you stop at a certain time. I'm not a doctor. Do not take my advice too hard. Because I grew up in a household. Google this research. Yeah. I'm always scared to say research for yourself because some people, when they research for themselves, they end up in a horrible place. But, yeah. Watergun. What I've heard more than anything is how far from going to sleep you drink caffeine is more important than anything. But then I go into like if I've been doing it since I was a kid, oof, that's stark. But I mean like in my household, it was like espresso after dinner.

Sure. I think I think there's variations because espresso's not the same as like an energy drink. That is the devil's lettuce in another way. What do you mean? The energy drink. I just think you're right. You're so right. An energy drink is fucking psychotic.

Like what are we doing? Have you ever had a four? I think, I have not, but I've heard so many stories about four locoes. I have friends who have the most insane four loco stories from when it was four loco. Yeah. What the, when you're the original four loco for the kids in home. But it was extra loco. Millennials can tell you the loco stories.

You're wondering why all millennials are cringe because we're drinking that fucking gasoline. Because we're still coming down from the four locoes. Half of my membrane or whatever the fuck's back there is gone because I'm, I was drinking four locoes when my brain was trying to grow. Our brains are all small beans because we were drinking four locoes. It's like taking a piss on a little sprout. Yeah. My God, I was, I was.

I won't say who, and I won't tell the whole story because it's theirs to tell. I will say I have a friend who was like, we drink four locoes, we woke up the next morning, and we had decorated for Christmas, and it was August. And I was like, that's awesome. I was like holy shit I never I never had one I was terrified

I was terrified of four locoes let's get them on the phone lets you a brand good live show and it's the last under the influence we ever do we drink four locoes no but the four locoes now are not now there they've paired them down

quite a bit because back in the day they're like yeah it's the equivalent of five cups of coffees and seven beers I'm like that's called dying you're gonna die I're crying we gotta get

OG 4-Loco and put one on the table. Also, right now it cuts to this episode of Smantro is brought to you by 4-Loco. Four-Loco. Okay, I remember my first For-Loco was everyone at UCLA, there was one weekend where they would pick to all go to Vegas. Oh, God, you're at UCLA when For Loco

is at its peak. That's crazy. And you guys wonder why I don't know a lot of logic. I don't remember anything, man. What was the flavor? I don't even fucking remember. Twisted fuck. Ball Cruncher Arctic Titty Twister fuck

Conservative This one's half-calf Oh my god So I remember the first time I've ever had one We are all in Vegas Everyone at UCLA picks one weekend to go to Vegas And then you're walking around Vegas And it looks like UCLA because everyone's there

And it's like big school, big decision Everyone goes right there Big decision Big decision. So then I was like young in my alcohol drinking life. I had just kind of started. So I, um, remember I had a sip of one and I'm drinking it. And my, and I'm like, I'm fucking feeling the best I've ever felt my life. Okay. And I'm like, oh my God, this is, this is life. This is, all these lights are gorgeous. Everything in this,

Vegas is the most gorgeous place in the world. And then my friends are literally going, don't tell her. No, it's okay. I think it'll freak her out. Don't. No, I don't think so. And I was like, what's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? And they're like, um, no we should we shouldn't i was like guys what's going on so your your your cheek is twitching like crazy and we don't want it to freak you out like my cheek was like you're like five sips into a four loco probably yeah i was like what do you mean and they're like i think it's just going to freak her out and i was like your mouth is migrating

to your forehead don't tell her just don't tell her what's going on you guys and it was all my improv friends and okay wait i'll say story really fast, because I just remembered it. That night, the For Loco night, me and all my improv friends, we were like, okay, we don't have a room to stay in. We only stayed one night, and we decided to stay another night, but we were like, all these frats and sororities, they have all these big sweets.

And we're like, we'll go to one of them and we'll know somebody and we'll just lay down. That's... It's crazy. Out of this world. It's crazy. And only improvisers drinking for Locos could decide to do that. You're going to improvise.

Like, we're just like, oh, we'll be like a personality hire and just kind of lay down on the ground. So then we're going up and then we see one of the housekeeping carts and we grab a fuck ton of sheets. Okay? Okay. And we're like, great. So we're just literally plug and play. We'll just like literally walk in, hang out and just fall asleep on the ground. You're going to walk in with a bunch of

sheets. And then yeah, one of us like put them in the corner and the rest we all just start hanging out. It's like a big party in this suite or whatever. And it was like all these like cooler UCLA people. And we're hanging at and then at some point we like try to start to lay down. And then someone's like, hey, you guys got to get up. You're not, you didn't pay for the room.

And then it's like me and like six of my buds, right? We get up and we leave. And then we're walking out. And my friend goes, we left the sheets. And my friend goes, we got to get the sheets. We got to get those sheets, man. And we docked on the door and I'll never forget. They're like, what's up?

And we're like, we want our sheets back. We want our beds that we brought to your hotel room back. They're like, fine, go get them. And then we went in there, grew up to all these sheets. how many of you were there of this improv team? There's six of us I think there that day. Six people tried to walk into a hotel suite and go to bed

and then I took a nap on a slot machine walk up and it's fine. You took a nap on a slot machine. I kind of just like I guess you know what, to be fair, I see old people doing that all the time when I go to Vegas. And if they can do it, so can we. Yeah, that's true. Wow. We should go to Vegas together. That'd be crazy. Do you like to gamble?

You'd be unhappy. You'd hate it. We need to go. You'd hate it. You know what's funny? I actually don't like to gamble that much. I think you like to gamble when it's not a game. I don't like to gamble money.

Okay. I enjoy chance. I enjoy games of chance. I love like in video games when there's a chance element or board games when there's a chance element. Because that's just fun because it's unknown. I mean, Day at the Races. It's the best. Yeah.

Mario Party, Day at the Races. It's the best. What a gamble. But when I'm in Vegas, I actually don't find myself gambling that much because I, I, I, do have bad luck when it comes to gambling in Vegas. So I don't, it has a bad taste in my mouth because I've just not won that much. Yeah, I've worked with you for a couple years, and I know you always roll low on the guys. It's actually kind of shocking.

It's like pretty remarkable how you always roll low. I say this, I've said this before where like I'm not, I'm a skeptic. I'm very skeptical of everything. The only times in my life that I believe in like the divine or like the supernatural is when my luck is terrible. because my like when things go right I'm like oh yeah things went like that we got lucky there whatever it seems like it just seems kind of random

but when things go wrong they go wrong so perfectly then I'm like that's got to be something and so like truly I'm like there it's got to be something there that went so poorly in like a way that challenges me in such a specific way where I'm like oh right that's a sign and actually thinking about that for that Christmas dread

when it was like you rolled so low so then you became Santa or like Santa jumped into your body I got unlucky in that way. But yeah, in all of Baff Legacy and when we played D&D, I truly, like, I would roll well sometimes, but

the average was so low. Always so low. The average roll, like if you totaled it all up, divided it, it had to have been like three to seven. Like it had to have been in that low range. It was shocking. But that's weird. I feel like, okay, so do you think you have bad luck? No. I think,

okay, if I'm buying into, if we're going to talk about luck here, I think I'm actually an extremely lucky I think you are too I'm extremely lucky where I have bad luck is just located in these games of chance and I'm fine with that

because I can choose not to gamble but I have bad luck when it comes to dice and parking okay parking I think I have actually I have like I have pseudo bad luck because I'm gonna always find a parking spot but it's just not gonna be close

whereas I know some people like my dad and my mom will be that she'll be like we're gonna find a bought right up close. He always does. Yeah. And it'll just truly like someone will pull out right at the front and he just always finds that. And some people have that type of luck. Yeah. My parents always have that luck where they're always in line. The line was not a line. And then you look back and they're like, glad we got here at the right time. And the line's really long. That's a good type of luck to have. My parents

have that luck in a big way. I think a type of, I don't think this is luck. But Courtney and I feel like have good luck with like waiters being really cool. But I think we're just really chill to waiters. Yeah, I think we get a lot of like free shots sometimes. We don't want them. We don't do shots, but people will bring them and we're like, no, no, like. See, I have really

bad luck and then randomly incredible. And then back to bad. Back. Maybe that's just how luck works. I don't know. But like, it'll just be so bad. Like my car's been stolen twice. Holy shit, bro. Right? But then sometimes

like, I'm like, just like, sometimes I'll roll like a Sometimes you get a free car. Sometimes the cars just fly at me. And then I got hit by a car. And I was like, hey, hey, car. And I went in it, drove it. Got it to the passenger seat, stole it.

And then looked at the registration in my name. You've had two cars stolen? Literally. Holy crap, dude. And in this day and age is what they say. It's so stupid to get your car stolen because they can find it so fast. Really? The cops told me.

They were like, don't worry. stealing a car is so lame right now. This happened to Miles Bensignor recently too. He's got his car stolen and the cops said the same thing. They were like we're gonna find it. You just have to hope it has all its shit in it. Like, because people will take it for a joyride

and then take apart, but then they find it because they're like with the license plate bullshit, they can find it so fast. Did they find your cars? Yeah. Both times? Yeah. The second time is pretty known. I've told you about it. I've told you my story when my car was stolen with dogs inside of it. Yes.

Found the car then. And then the first time, it was, it was like my first car ever. I had a RAV-4. And I guess RAV-4s at that model were really easy to steal. Didn't know. Wow. And you got that one back. Yeah.

It was stranded somewhere in like a field or something. And the radio was gone. Whoa. Yeah. I, um, and by the way, for listeners who haven't heard the story, you had a car stolen with dogs, but all the dogs were okay. The dogs were okay. So was I and so was the car.

But it was a very, it's a very, it's a very long-winded story that I've tried to say in a minute under I can't but yeah my car was stolen with a bunch of dogs that I was walking um I cannot think of a worse situation like just as far as like agony and stress and anxiety goes like oh my god it's like I remember all the dog walkers in that in the community because I was like I would go to the dog park every day with with my job every one of them was like we can't believe this happened to you we've all been doing this for 20 plus years and this happened to you. So it was like, that's the kind of luck I get where it's like a little performative where it's like, wow, this bad luck is bad. Yeah, that's like, that's like a

movie, like a TV show. Yeah, where you're like, this was a little bit written to be bad luck. Come on, please. They'd get in the car full of dogs and they would drive off with it. And they found the dogs walking together. Come on. That's, that's, that's the only wholesome part of that story is that the dogs stuck together. It's really good. Wow. Holy crap. I one time left my car unlocked and someone stole the airbag out of it. You could take that out? Perfectly? I hop in.

I see that my door is slightly ajar when I walk up to my car and I'm like, oh, shoot, like, what does this mean? And I get in, and truly the steering wheel just empty, like on the middle part. Just, they had perfectly taken it out. I take it to a shop and they go, whoever took this was an expert. They were like, this person rocked at this. It's the airbag buncher. They're like, had they, like, ripped it out?

What a fuck the thing. done terribly, you would be replacing so much more. Because they perfectly took the airbag out, they knew exactly how to do this. All you have to do is replace this airbag. And I was like, thanks, thief. Thanks, dude. Hey, hey, thanks. He's going, scalpel. Thanks, bad guy.

One, two, three, and up. Like, immaculate. It was just crazy to see, like, the steering wheel without the middle chunk. See, that's good luck. I was like, okay, as far as bad luck goes, that's good luck. They also stole my saxophone, which was in my trunk. Oh, that's so sad and lame. To be fair, it had been in my trunk for years.

You're a saxophone? They told my saxophone. You're my aback. Oh, boy, my saxophone's gone. I was never going to play that thing again. Sapphire, guys. Safari, my favorite. My favorite.

My saxophone's gone, guys. Okay, here's a sibling dynamic thing I want to ask you about. Okay. We can revisit it later. But something I'm just floating. I want to get a new car. I don't know what to get. I'm not the one to ask about a new car.

I've been driving the same car forever. Because I wanted to get a Prius, but people take the shit out of the Prius. Oh, do they? People take the, um, catalytic converter. And I'm like, so what do we get? What's an affordable? I don't fucking know, man.

I've been driving the same car for, I, I've been driving the same car. I was driving the same car before. I got, the car I got when I was 17, it got totaled, because I got rear-ended so hard that I hit the car in front of me and they hit the car in front of them and they hit the car in front of them. Four? Four cars. It was crazy, bro.

It was, I got, my car like got lifted off the ground. It got hit so hard. Were you okay? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was fine. Whoa. Yeah, I was perfectly fine. I did not, like, seriously, not, somehow miraculously, good luck.

Yeah. Nothing wrong. But the lady, like, lady in front of me gets out, she's like, what the heck? And the lady in front of her gets out, and she's going, ah. And I was like, this person's screwed. I was like, that sucks. And I was getting calls from an insurance company for like a year or so being like, yeah, have you suffered any injuries or whatever?

And I'm just like, no, like, whatever. But I'm like, oh, I know that. person's getting insurance pay out. I am, this is like a very dumb thing about me. I'm more afraid of like fender benders than like a big ass car accident. I'm terrified of both. Why is that? But like because the hassle of like a car accident of like insurance forever, I'm just like

yeah, that's that now you're dealing with that forever. What if I told you I've been in a lot? I've been in a couple car accidents. I've been in a lot. How many car accidents have you been in? Eight. Eight. car accidents

and I'd say four of those are fender benders but they were pretty like once I was driving on the 101 and a big truck rear-ended me and my entire glass window came flying like it felt like it was raining I was driving

didn't feel the hit my god felt all this glass holy shit bro there was just like a bad car karma I had for like three years four years you're saying karma what did do to... Oh, no, I didn't ask for it. No, I didn't

know, I didn't earn it. You're just bad luck. Yeah. Just bad luck. Just happening at you. Yeah, it's done. I think you got it all out of the way. Truly, I got all my car shit for my entire life out of the way. I wonder what the average amount of car accidents is for an American. I feel like it's got to be like, it's shockingly, I think it's got to be like two to five. God, that's... Because everybody's been in a car accident.

Cars are awful. I truly hate them. They suck, especially when you're drinking a four loco. I know. It's hard to operate. I'm trying to drive my Jeep on the opposite side of the freeway drinking my four loco, and people just don't get out of my way. Three to four is the average.

How terrifying is that shit? That's so scary. I hate them. I hate cars. I'm really like, I'm always a little, I'm always actually very scared when I'm in a car. What really freaks me out is now it's the norm to have a dash cam. I know, because it's just like, yeah.

That's horrifying. No, it's truly, it's Mad Max. We're already in it. It's awful. God. Anyways. I wrote out some questions. I have some stuff too.

All right. Sick. J.K., I'm just going to go on MySpace. Okay. I'm pulling up my shit. All right. Hold on. Okay.

Okay. All right. Oh, the first question I had, we've already kind of covered it. It was like, do we hate each other? Yeah. No. No. I think you could, like, any moment where we're, like, actually at each other's

throats. I think you could see it's making us laugh. It's very funny. Yeah. And then followed up with that is now that we're actually sitting here talking, do you actually like Mader from cars? Yeah, let's talk about it. I'm kidding. Because I feel like the other day you were like, yeah, I don't actually. There's not a lot of love there. So many fans are crushed right now. I hate saying this. There's not a lot of love there. I do hate that what's his face gets all the attention. Lightning McQueen? Yeah. What's his fuck? That's all. I feel like they split the attention pretty well from the franchise. No, I think every single little Rolly Kid backpack is Lightning Queen. I guess that's true. And I feel bad for our beloved Tomeyter, but I actually don't really give a shit. And you can even see in that clip, you say, you make me laugh so hard by being like, you love Mater.

And that idea makes me laugh so hard that I'm like, I love that I want to love him. I'm going to be hurt by this. Uh, yeah. Okay. I did something great. Okay, and so I have to kind of go through this, but one of my best friends recently wants to get engaged with her partner. Oh shit. And she goes, we're doing 186 questions.

And I was like, what? And she goes, have you heard of the 180? Oh, 183, 183 questions. And it's like this thing people use and it's 183 questions to answer her before getting hitched. Whoa. And listen, I know your tape. I feel like there's a new one of these every day because I know Selena has the like the 36 questions to fall in love. Yes, yes.

But this one is like, I thought this one was just fascinating because she said that they spent like two months. Every like a couple nights would sit with a couple of them talk and by the end they finished. And they got divorced. And he walked out. And they broke up. No, but he, she wouldn't mind me talking about this. He was just slower and she was more ready. And by the end, he just went, all right, I'm ready.

Wow. And I asked her to send it to me. That's so cool. Some of them are crazy. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, hey, that makes a lot of sense because you do need to, like, be on the same page. Like some of these, there's a whole finances section. Yeah, that makes sense.

It is kind of crazy that you could just get married to anybody. It's true. What schooling do you want for your kid? Oh, when you get into kids, that's crazy. Public school or, if you had a kid right now, public school or private? Public? Yeah. I don't fucking know now.

There's charter. There's charter. There's spectrum, internet. There's Zoom. There's Zoom. There's chat GPT. Yeah, you'll learn on chat, GBT. Wait, so I'm finding some of these.

Okay, okay. Okay. What's your biggest fear? Oh. It's something like metaphorical, right? or if that's anything you want like like being uh like failure public failure or just personal i think maybe personal failure like yeah the insignificance oof yeah like being forgotten yeah maybe that uh or and definitely fear of letting people down fear of hurting people yeah that's big yeah i have

fear of people fear of yeah no i i think if you're scared of people if you boil it down um i love people so much and I fear them as well. I think I'm in the same page I I oh I have some questions regarding this later but um like TikTok will occasionally throw some like therapy stuff at you yeah it'll be a person being like do you feel this way about this stuff then you probably have this and it's like stop and it was like oh do you view like hanging out with friends as like an obligation oh yeah that you need to meet and I'm like yeah you do you do you think that's because of the job I think it's from performing for so long um I fear boring people I fear um annoying people

and like just wasting people's time I'm like oh well I don't want to hit them up because like I don't want to make them they're probably busy they don't want to text me so then I end up not texting people and I'm like oh shit like they think I don't like them but it's because I'm afraid of like Yes oh no I totally relate

Something I don't talk about a lot Is that I I fear one on one so hard It's really hard and like It's always been a thing for me since I was a kid group hangs or like group situations are so much easier because you feel like you have fallback or three yeah three is easy two people it's i'm like fuck like okay so it's on me and i feel like i i like zone in on what that person wants and needs so much more than just being present yeah and i kind of just like

i don't know what it is like yeah it's why i was i've mentioned this a million times it's why i was horrendous at dating yeah because i would go on a date i'd go on a couple dates and after a couple dates, I'd be like, I have not been myself at all in these dates. Like, I am so trying to just say the right things and do the right things that I don't even know if I like this person or not, because I've been, just all I've been hearing about is their approval. Yes. That I don't even know if we do vibe because I haven't been genuine. Like, I've been a way, I've been lying to you this whole time because I'm putting on a performance. Yeah. And I can't, it's so hard to not do that. And that's why I think, you know, Courtney and I worked so well because we were in an

environment for so long where we were just friends. And it's just like, you don't have to force it. And then it just kind of happens. I mean, that's why I think I like some people rely on like some type of something because like I do love a glass of wine to get me to just like like something like that or like when I'm sick. I'm so tired that I can't think about the other person. I'm just thinking about getting through. Like just getting through this. Right. So I'm so better. I'm so much better when I have just a little hindrance to get out of my head

but then you can't rely on that you gotta learn how to like Right Yeah because you can't do that forever You can't do that in every situation I was gonna change the subject really quick Please To something a little more silly

I'm scrolling through finance shit I'm like let's talk about Mater Let's talk about finances TikTok I feel like What is your like social media of choice Oh Like not that you like it Or like oh this is the best one

What do you find yourself on a lot changes for sure um right now i am i am a little bit on ticot more yeah it's just so easy to pull up and just scroll right but instagram is like the toxic one right where i like i need it i check that all day see i think instagram to me is like the least toxic to me sometimes wow the way it affects me right uh i've noticed that all of them affect me in different ways and i think they're all i think all social media is toxic and yeah and i think especially now it's gotten so algorithmic. The second algorithms became a thing with social media, it

fucking all went to shit, right? Just because now you have an AI like going, oh, you like this stuff, so we're going to give you more of that stuff. So we're not experiencing new things. You're just experiencing more of like a heightened and heightened version of what you were already going for.

Yes. Or like the act of boredom doesn't happen anymore because I'm being served something before I knew I needed it. Yeah. And that's such a weird space. Um, but TikTok is like an easy one to pull up and, um, what TikTok has just become is just discourse. It's just people tell it. I've realized I scroll and I'm like, oh, every single one is a variation of someone telling me something. I'm like, there's no longer like, and it's all critique of things. I'm like, you're not seeing anything original. You're just seeing critique of stuff.

Yeah. And, and, um, there's an interesting, I got served an interesting clip where this professor was talking about how like she's like yeah she's a literature professor and she's like all my students um are terrified of of making stuff now because they're all terrified of being cringe because the internet is just critiquing everything and telling like so all we're doing is critiquing stuff and not making stuff because it's easier to critique things um we have a million we have an endless amount of critics but nobody making original stuff that's um pretty mind boggling like like how most podcasts now are watchback podcasts yeah it's it instead of like actually generating something and i find myself watching reaction and stuff like it's fun to like watch that

stuff but i realize sometimes i'm like am i how often am i actually ingesting original content or how much am i ingesting the the the echo of the reaction of the reaction of the reaction and i'm like god damn am i what is my brain actually getting right now and that's same with like what an algorithm kind of is is it's just kind of a repeat situation and I'm like this is this is not healthy for me and I'm like no wonder I sometimes feel like this past year or so I'm like I really struggle with creativity yeah I'm like because I'm like what am I because creativity is like an engine and you need like fuel for that and fuel is original things yeah um and nothing's better than the real world and walking around but it's my brain's not even primed for that sometimes

you walk around it's hard and I hear so much about how hard it is for everyone to focus nowadays I'm like, yeah, because the world is telling us not to all the time. Preach. Yeah. I didn't mean for this to become a deep conversation like that. I meant to ask, like, my TikTok feed is always telling me stuff, and it's always a very different thing. Yeah. And it switches up all the time.

Yeah. And, but lately, it's been one that I actually appreciate, and I think has been good. I think I benefit from this one. And it's just been TikTok. And it's alpha male TikToks. And it's alpha males. And it's, uh, don't listen to women. Um, no, it's suddenly been like fiber.

that's what my TikTok feed is it's just like hey fiber you need to be eating fiber and I was like whoa had no idea wait that's so funny my TikTok's going it's your cortisol levels it's every now and it's like hey man I I scroll right past the ones that I see are selling something yeah so I'm like I don't trust you and that's almost everyone every single one it's all selling you something and that's why they're telling you they're like here's what you're doing wrong in the world I'm like you're trying to sell me something but a lot of it's like hey fiber and for a while it was just chia seeds and it was just taking TikTok being like, you need to be eating chia seeds every day. And it's like, and then it's like, you get those and then you get followed up by a TikTok that's like, be careful with your chia seeds. Make sure you're doing it right. Guys, slow down on the chia seeds. And it's like, you need to soak your chia seeds, so you need to put them in water.

Oh, go fuck yourself. You have to soak your seeds? What are we doing? Because they expand. What are we doing? It's God created a seed. We don't need to wash it. God created chia seeds.

God, oh, inside. They are beautiful as they are. Don't you love it when you get a pack of lettuce and it was pre-washed? And they say pre-washed three times and I go, thank you! Yeah, it was pre-washed a month ago and then it sat in this package for a while. And I'm like, thank you so much. I'm not washing my fucking seeds. How do you even wash a seed?

You don't wash them. You just put them like so like you can make chia pudding, which I've been doing. So check this out. One cup, one cup of almond milk. Put in a mason jar. Four cups of protein powder. A fourth a cup or less of chia seeds. Throw that in there.

A tablespoon of maple syrup and a teaspoon of vanilla extract. Stir that up, throw that in the fridge next day. It turns into like a pudding. And what is that? It's good for you. No, but I mean like what is. And what is that? So but actually, like what is that?

And what is that? It's fiber. It's good for you. It's seeds. God, do you remember fiber one bars? I never really had them. But I feel like an old-ass man that I went to the grocery store and I was like, what cereals are high in fiber?

Jesus, dude. You're getting so fucking old. Okay. You're washing your fucking seeds. God, someone needs to take this guy on a walk. Take him on a walk to the back of the barn. You give me a podcast, Mike. And then because I'm watching so many fucking podcast clips,

then sometimes I'll see myself, like, go off. Yeah. That's the thing that you do with podcasts. Okay, but my, so I've gotten into something that I highly recommend for people. Okay. My friend Kylie got me into it. She goes, I have a second TikTok account.

Oh. And I go, what? She goes, it's my sleepy algorithm. Okay. And it makes me sleepy. Okay. And it's a bunch of stupid, boring shit. Okay.

And she just scrolls through it, and it puts her to bed. That's pretty smart. We're reinventing the lullaby, folks. Do you get into ASMR at all? No. Yeah. Why would I do that? Some people are into it.

I'm getting some people are into it. I do like ASMR when it's with a visual. The sound isn't just good enough for me. It's sound, I realize, is not. So I For the longest time I thought I didn't get it at all I think I get it with But it's a very specific weird thing

And I realized my entire life Where I think I've felt ASMR is when I get a stethoscope When the doctor's like putting it on your back And they're like all right breathe in Breathe in breathe out And I like for some reason that And then I realize like there's a ton of ASMR people Who are doing like fake doctor stuff

Where they're like all right We're going to measure your face And okay and we're going to measure right here And then there's this one that's really popular Wait I'm obsessed with this I know I'm like wow how specific they get. And then there's one that's really, really popular

where they're like, okay, we're going to do this test where we have this thing here. It's got like a wheel at the end that's got like kind of like pointed ends. And it's like, all right, I'm going to roll this on you. And then I also have this thing that's just like a cotton-tipped swab, and I'm going to press this on you. And I'm going to go back and forth. And you're going to tell me if it's sharp or dull.

And so they'll just like, all right, and here we go. And then they'll just be pressing it on a person and their eyes are closed. And it's like, all right. And what's this? It's like, oh, that's sharp. Dull! It's like, that's dull. Sol!

Okay, sharp, dull. And honestly, I'm just like... Are you hearing something different for dull and sharp? You don't really hear anything. You're just watching this person, like, get this test done where it's not a real test. It's not a real doctor thing. I know, but you're just hearing someone go, that's dull, that's sharp? Yeah, I mean, they're kind of like whispering it.

It's not like they're like, yeah, it's sharp. Yeah, that one's dull. Ouch! That's got to be sharp. No, it's like, it's like, dull, sharp, dull. And you like that? I don't, I like it is a weird way to say. And you're sitting there with your grown man pudding?

Watching that? My grown man pudding going like, mm-hmm. Oh, that one's sharp. No, I, it's not, I don't think I feel any ASMR, but I'm kind of like mesmerized by it a little bit. But sometimes they get it wrong. Like, there's clearly parts on our body where we don't feel that well, where they'll like roll it against like their temple and they'll be like, dull.

And I'm like, that was sharp, you idiot. I was like, oh, I'm not into this. They're stupid. I'm just kidding. but then what I also you know what I also get? You know what I also get that actually I like? What? So

a thing that's big in L.A. and you're not going to be surprised by is Reiki Healing. Okay. Now, Reiki Healing is some people are going to be mad at me for saying this. Rakey healing is for rich people who have expendable money to throw at things that don't do anything. A rich woman gave Spork. A rich woman gave Spork Rakey Healing once

and I'm 50% I think it changed him. 50% think it was just a hug. I think it was a hug. Okay, I'm skeptical of it. I'm skeptical of a lot of things. I do kind of believe in it. People are allowed to, hey, if someone says I believe in it, I'm not going to say they're wrong. I don't personally believe in it.

Good trained internet boy. But I will come across Reiki Healing on TikTok, and I love that shit. Because it'll be like this Australian man who looks like Jesus, and he'll be like, he'll be like, if this video has found you, it means you have some negative energy that I'm going to purge. And he's got, he's got like a crystal, and he's like, here we go. And then he's like, he's like, psh, and I'm sitting there like, yeah, well, I mean, he's, I have to watch this because if I have negative energy, he's going to take care of it. And I'm like, I'm skeptical, but hey, if I, maybe that, maybe he's right. You lose nothing. I lose nothing. I only stand to gain something.

You're sitting there with your cup of seeds. Just sit there. Get your energy clean. That's also how I view because the internet is filled with misinformation, right, that I gauge that most things I'm skidding. served or misinformation. So as long as I'm like, okay, if I buy into this misinformation, as long as I'm not hurting anyone or I don't get harm. You don't lose anything. Then I'm like, okay, I'm willing to play along. Like fiber, right? I'm like, I know it's healthy. I knew that before. Yeah. But I'm like, okay, that's not bad advice to get that I need to eat more fiber. But also, if like a guy's like, hey, I'm going to heal you really quick with this crystal right now, I'm like, I don't believe you, but I'm sure. Why not? Hey, why not? Yeah, there's some witches. There's like witches on Etsy that

you can, like, buy a spell, and then you have to put something down, right? But if I'm just watching it, and they're like, stay on here so your day can be blessed tomorrow. I'm like, I'll buy it. Because then there's misinformation that's, 90% of the misinformation is bad, and it leads to bad things. And it's like, hey, believe this about the world. And I'm like, no, man, like, I lose a lot if I do that. Let's read some books and back this up. Okay, wait, really quickly.

Do you mind if I go back to Chia seed? All right, we'll go back to Chia seeds. Just really quick. You called that pudding. It's chia pudding. I'd say because it was in the morning. I'd call that oatmeal. It's not oatmeal.

With seeds. There's no oats in it. I'd say pudding is for the evening. Oatmeal is for the morning. You think pudding is for the evening. You also thought yogurt was yellow, right? Or pink. I think most yoghurt's are pink.

But I want to go back to this really quickly. That's the wild. That's wrong. I think cake. Definitively wrong. You think cake. Hold on cake. Okay.

Is morning pancakes. And that's cake. Right. Go with me on this. Sorry. Sorry. You think cake is morning On my phone somewhere

I've been thinking about it for a while I think pancakes Pancakes are breakfast cake That's it The other pancakes, yeah Cake is in the name And I think Oatmeal

is breakfast pudding Nope, nope Yeah Pudding for dinner Uh oh I don't see in any way How oatmeal is pudding The texture is completely different

I just think those are Hold on Let me figure this out A cookie. A cookie. Breakfast biscuit. Okay. Just different times of the day.

Okay. I mean, yeah. Well, in many parts of the world, that is a biscuit, right? French toast. Okay. Where are we going with this? I think they all are the same, just time of day. Asahi bowl is breakfast ice cream.

I would, okay. I would argue an asaibol is closer to a smoothie than ice cream. If it's in a bowl, I think it's ice cream. So if you dumped a smoothie into a bowl, it's now ice cream. Yes. At night. But a smoothie doesn't have a smoothie. I lost you.

I was doing so well. This whole thing's fucked. And I was like, ooh, this will be fun. I could bring up my whole theory about pancakes and cake. Yeah, I mean, pancakes are technically a type of cake. It's pancakes. So then what's the bagel for the evening? A bagel for the evening?

Bangle for the evening. I don't know. A bagel? A bagel for the evening to me. You can have bagels at any time of the day. It's the bread basket. What? A bread basket? What is the steak for the morning?

Steak for the morning? Steak and eggs. A sausage. Breakfast sausage. That's pork. Pork or chicken or turkey. Yes. You're going literal.

I guess beef sausage you can. I'm like let go. Like really thinking of theory. Like what is the vibe? Stop. Okay. You're just talking about vibes here. All right.

You're just their equivalents. Yeah. he like sucks the energy and then he like does this and it's that part that it's kind of like weirdly satisfying it's like oh you're grabbing energy and then you're like just like kind of dusting it off put pull I like it and then there's some rakey dealers who have these like weird sticks of gems and they're like tapping them together and I'm like this is working I gave yeah my friend my rich friend took care of spork one day this is so long ago and I came back and she was like he was a little

anxious so I gave him a whole rakey treatment and then he's looking at me like he's like hello angela and he's drenched in lavender i was like you smell amazing dude and she goes he really responded well or like i used to when i was a dog walker would drop off dogs for acupuncture in brantwood wow and i was like my god this dog's getting better treatment than i will ever oh do you get do you ever get served the things where people are like putting out a meal for a dog and it's like all these organic crazy ingredients and it's truly it's truly like $100 worth of stuff where it's like an entire

chicken, like an entire whole chicken to like quail eggs like a tomato and then like all these powders and stuff and I'm like this dog is playing in the NFL. Yeah. Like oh my God. Overnight Oats is oatmeal. Yeah

literally Overnight Oats is oatmeal. But then why does it say overnight oats and not oatmeal? What? It's just, what? I'm asking what overnight oats are? Overnight oats. It's overnight oatmeal. It's oatmeal. But what is the difference? There has to be a difference. There's literally no difference.

Overnight. Oat's hot. Overnight Oats are cold. Right? Overnight Oats are not cold. What is overnight oats? Outs is when you can make it in a crock pot, right? Is that mine, am I wrong? Here? I thought overnight oats is chia. It's similar. Overnight Outs, you put in the fridge. Oh, you do put in the fridge. Okay. But that's still oatmeal. So there, fuck you.

So there, I'm right about everything that we just talked about. We did all 83 questions. So there we go. All misinformation is good. No, just kidding. By the way, I just want to go back. I feel like I said it, but misinformation is bad. Misinformation is very bad.

Let me say that misinformation is bad. In no way was I saying that any misinformation is good. Yeah, no, you were fine. There's some where I just go, okay, I'm going to allow this for right now. Yeah. But then I'm going to wipe away. But what you said, I think is really important where it's like looking at our internet, like, activity and

am I losing something when I take part in this? Does that make sense? Yeah. Because there's so... Or does it lead to an action? I think if social media is telling you something that leads to an action in your life, you need to really be scrutinizing it. And know that your

feed is telling you things that it thinks you like and it'll keep telling you. So it'll feel like the whole internet's agreeing but it's just your little corner and that's how people end up with these twisted mindsets. I even go that way with Instagram where I'll see like someone will do something out of the story

or someone won't repost a story I tag them in and I go like and I'm like oh are they mad at me and I'm like nothing really just happened I was just here there was no action that actually happened but I was just like

sometimes it's so hard not to like give it so much weight because it is interaction with a human but it also isn't I don't know it messes me up it messes me up and then Reddit depresses the shit out of me when I like go on Reddit too much

I'm like oh man everything's really bad. Okay, you're in line for your coffee. What's your scroll? Unfortunately, sometimes it's Reddit because it's just articles and it just like it goes all over the place. Was it Twitter before? It was Twitter and I refused to go

on Twitter. I hate it there. It was nice when it, like I feel like Twitter was what Reddit. Yeah. I had curated, sorry to interrupt. I had curated my Twitter account years ago to be so funny and it was just comedians posting dumb ass jokes. And I would go there and I'd be laughing my ass off.

And I know it can still be that, but I can't support it. It's so... And it just got really bad, and it's really negative. And there's a lot in the world to critique in a fair way. I think Twitter is often just feels like just really, it's just bad. Took a turn for the absolute worst. Also, like, Twitter, I felt, I was like, I'm seeing people say words that I thought we put in the closet forever ago. I was like, God damn Twitter.

Oh, yeah. Like, what the hell? And it's, I'm like, people that I thought were like, people are, you... thinking it's good like in some ways and I'm just like guys stop like what the hell

we gotta get Spencer off there this is what internet does yeah is like it it becomes your reality and it affirms things that you should like take a step back

and go wait what's the real world can you curate Reddit does it have an algorithm yes yes you can you so you subscribe to different subredits yeah

and you can only get those subredits you can make it very positive Reddit can be kind of anything but even still like it's communities right and I just find looking through comments, I just feel like the top comments a lot are just always like, oh yeah, the world's awful

and everyone's bad. I'm just like, all right, like, okay. I need to take a step back sometimes. Yeah, it's interesting though because if I'm like waiting for my coffee, I need visual. Like I don't want to read. Like I have to like kind of sit if I want to read.

My Instagram for you page is actually the most positive out of all of them because it's just fashion stuff. Oh. Now it's kind of shopping-esque, which I'm also like this isn't great that it's just kind of cart. But I'm like, okay, like, it's kind of almost a Pinterest board of men's fashion. That's using it in a great way. Yeah. And I, I, so that's probably the positive one. I try to now sometimes just be like, do I need to get on my phone? Like, I'm waiting in line 15 years ago. I would

have just been here. Yeah. But now I'm finding that I'm like, similar to what you were talking about with like having a drink to like be able to talk to someone. I'm like, can I literally not be bored? Can I literally not sit still anymore and I'm like that can't be good. It's so terrifying. And it's hard as hell though. It's so hard. I did a dropout show yesterday where you couldn't have your phone and I had to sit and it was like so

it's crazy that something that should be so simple which is just sitting with your thoughts has now become a battlefield because I've let in so many other quick like I know I know I'm the same way my brain moves way too fast and it's but I

find it going slower when I actually go a couple weeks with like, I have a timer on my phone now for things, but I often don't listen to it. It's like, hey, your time's up and I'm like, yeah, right, it is. Yeah, right, it is. I'm asking for 15 more minutes and I'm going to ask for 15 more minutes after that.

Oh my God, I wanted to tell you this morning it happened. My alarm clock? The alarm? And did you watch an ad? Yeah, but now they got me answering questions. What? I was going to screenshot it, but I was half asleep. But I remember going, oh, I got to tell Shane this. But it was like, which one of these brands do you use? I was like, none of them.

I was doing like literally surveys. Can I tell you this is a, that is a scene straight out of Blade Runner. That is some dystopian shit right there that you wake up, you wake up in order to sleep, you need to watch an ad and ask questions. Yeah, if you guys haven't heard this, I have this intense alarm that will change the sound every day and then also make me fill out memory, like, what is it? It'll show me like, a little puzzle. I used to do math.

Had to stop doing that. But I can do little puzzles, and it gets me to wake up faster because I just get... All the corporate America attack me first thing in the morning, I will not do math. I'll take all the surveys you want. But I ain't fucking adding or subtracting. I'll wake up and immediately tell you what detergent I like, but I am not doing long division. There's skin off my back for that. Literally, it showed me this morning.

it was like, only when I asked to snooze only when you ask to snooze, does it make you do work? That's crazy, dude. This sounds like hell. No, I, oh God, it gets me up. It gets me freaking up. Yeah, of course it does. What sound do you, you're not like a wake up before your alarm person.

I do wake up before my alarm. God. I wake up before my alarm. God, you are a mystery to me. I am so far from you. It's crazy. What time do you go to bed? Like when caffeine goes through your body, I think it's like one pipe. Yeah.

I've got a special organ called the caffeine organ Up my arm and goes You're a giant silly straw Literally And you're just like tank Tank It's because of all the fiber I have

It's those chia seeds They're managing it It's that cup of seeds Yeah it's that old man pudding I'm eating Disgusting Yeah What time do you go to bed?

Different every night That's why Are you kidding? Sleep schedule dude You have a bed time sleep schedule i just like i'm in bed by a certain time and i'm fall asleep generally like a window i have a window during shoot weeks non-shoot weeks i don't have a window oh okay like weekends you're up a little libit later that's fine but you're do you set an alarm yeah okay i also think like um i think

what i've heard is like oh if you need to start like going to bed at a certain time it's easier to just wake up earlier and then you'll be tired that night yes um but uh but i need my alarm for that I love waking up earlier. I plenty of times use my alarm, and I wake up for my alarm. But a lot of times I do wake up before it. Yeah. But, you know, I wake up and go to the gym. But, like, today I set an alarm for 545, and I woke up at 5.30.

You're a special breed. Once you get, you get used to not be able to wake up at 5.30. I mean, no matter what I'm up early. Totally. Like, if I don't have an alarm. We usually are here by 8 a.m., which means we're usually all waking up by 536. Like on Saturdays, I will wake up, like, at seven or six, and then I, sleepy, I'll go, get back on there. Wow.

And I turn my brain off because, yeah, I try to. Oh, see, I love, like, on a weekend, waking up super early is awesome. It's the best. Getting a lot of nods. A lot of nods. Favorite time of day. No, truly, waking up at, like, 5.30 in the morning. If I wake up at 5.30 and I feel...

On a Saturday? Yeah, because check this out. I wake up at 5.30 in the morning. I feel good. If I feel good, I'm like, oh, extra awesome. I go down, I'm like, this is, I'm like, the sun's not even fully up yet. I'm like, nobody's up. The world is not moving.

This is free time. It's as if like, this doesn't count. No, but there's only boring people around you. What are you talking about? I'm not sick as hell, people are asleep. I'm not going out. I'm staying in. You're right.

You're right. And I'm like, oh, playing a video game, low volume or like watching a TV show or reading a book, first thing early in the morning is incredible. And what's great is like, I have cats and cats are always up. Oh. But they're up, but this is like 5 a.m. to 7 a.m. is when cats are up, but they're not doing crazy stuff. They're just kind of up and I'm being adults. I sometimes, like, I'll wake up and I'll go down and like on my couch, my cats are just chilling there.

Just like up, but just like kind of sitting. And I'll sit down and play video games and they'll just be like chilling, just like hanging out. I'm like, this is awesome. Like this time doesn't count. Oh my God. Because like 8 a.m. 9 a.m. rolls around. It's like, okay, what am I doing? Now you're up with America.

They're looking at the market. 5 a.m. doesn't matter. Nobody can judge me for what I do at 5 a.m. Because nobody's up. It's like bonus time. That's what it feels like. Wow. Can I ask you a question about your guys' cats? Yeah.

My parents are having a crazy thing with this cat. I rescued them a cat two years ago. And the cat is now, her name is Pino. She is, my mother named her. You're kidding. Not kidding. Pino is, do your cats kind of play sides with you and Courtney, because Pino is doing this thing where Pino in front of my mom

is my mom's number one. Yeah. And then the second my mom closes her eyes, Pino will go to my dad. Wow. But if my mom wakes up, Pino's like, I'm not friends with him. Whoa. Yeah. Our cats don't do anything that extreme.

I mean, Bertie definitely likes Courtney more. I think both of them love Courtney. Bones annoys me the most. Like, he knows, like, I will mess with him. and play with him a lot. So he will come to me and he'll be meowing at me a lot. They have different schedules, though.

Like, in the afternoon, I feel like they want to, like, be around Courtney more. And in the morning, every morning, like 5 a.m. Or even earlier, like 3 to 5 a.m. He gets up in bed with me, and he wants to, like, be able to do a little bit.

At your core, are you a dog or cat person? I think I'm both, man. I've had both growing up. I love them both. I like, kind of like all animals. My take is, like, I can talk as much shit as I want because there's certain breeds of dogs

I'm like, oh, little dogs. Like, I'm not into little dogs. I'm like, if I had a little dog, I would, then love it. I don't really care. I was a big dog person all my, like, I just loved big dogs. And I never wanted a small dog. They're all great.

It's crazy how it just happens. I like them all. Like, it also depends on the individual animal. Like, some dogs suck. Some cats suck. And then you meet like, like, growing up, I was like, oh, chihuahuas, because we were in the era

where there was just chihuahuas everywhere. Yeah, and they were all shitty. And because they were poorly trained, right? Because people just got them because it was a fad. Isn't there a Taco Bell Chihuahua too? Yeah, man. No, the early 2000s, it was Chihuahua Central. There was movies about Chihuahuas.

But I hated them when I was a kid because I was like, they're annoying. They're not friendly. They're just barking. But then, like, over the years, I've met some Chihuahuas that are amazing. And I'm like, whoa, this is the best dog I've ever met in my life. Trying to think of now all the corporate dogs. There's that bullseye target dog. He's not around anymore.

He went. They got rid of him. Him. The Taco Bell Chihuahua. Got rid of him, too. Wasn't there another? They all went out of work. Or they just died?

Well, I'm assuming it was multiple dogs. Twins. Yeah. What are other dogs that were like? That were big? Symbols. Like corporate dogs. I think those were the two big ones.

And they're no longer in business. Have you heard the whole theory that all these food chains are now making their their slogans less about food and more. more just like life advice. Yeah, so that's a big, that's an algorithmic thing. Really? That's an algorithmic thing.

What do you mean? It's an algorithmic thing. It's because it's a matter of like, they want them to have a personality. They want them to be like humanified. So that like, oh, I love this brand. Like I love like its personality and stuff. That's wild.

And also, once again, don't take my word fully for this. But there's a, oh God, there's a book that I read by, the author's name is Kyle Cheika. And it's called Filter World. And it's a book. book all about like how the premise, the essay

of the book is how algorithms flatten culture. And he talks, he talks, the big example that you can all see is coffee shops. Coffee shops in the 90s all had personalities and now they're all these slate gray like blank things. And he's all talking about with bookshops. He's like sometimes it's a good thing right. Like indie bookshops

have had a big rise in the past few years. But it's not about like, oh, is this bookshop good? Is their inventory, whatever? It's the personality of the bookshop. And so that's everything, everything. It needs to have a social media presence. It doesn't matter in real life what you are, what you do, or how good the business is.

It's your social media presence. It's how people read the personality of it. That's interesting because I thought with stores, it was just like a style thing where I remember everything shifted to minimalism and the Apple store. I remember the first time I ever went in the Apple store. I was like, oh my God, there's just tables with nothing on it. The millennial gray.

Yeah. The millennial, because like 2010, you started to see like everything, all color went away all design went away but then maximalism is kind of back I hope it comes back man oh it is like TGI Friday's aesthetic it's kind of I mean look around I just want like uniqueness I don't want it to all be the same though because what I think we're getting like having individual like gallery walls are like they've been back right right we're talking about maximalism but I'm I'm saying I'm down for it I'm down for anything but I don't want them to all do the same thing yeah right because that's what we're seeing now and that's algorithmic is that it's like oh but this is

what people want. This is what's selling and this is what the internet wants. So we're all going to do this now. And I just don't want to see all the same because that's what happened with the millennial gray is that everything looked the same. Yes, yes. And so I'm like, I'm down for maximalism. I'm also down for just every place that you walk into to be a different vibe. And you get that with indie stuff, like small businesses and things. But you don't get that with big chains. But I'm like, if all of them just start doing the same exact thing. But I couldn't read a book like that. It would rip me a new asshole. Like sometimes I need a little I need a little bit of ignorance. Bless.

Yeah, it was a fascinating book. I highly recommend it because what I've said today, I'm sure I'm sort of wrong about some things, but Filter World, one of my favorite books I've read this year, really awesome. Next to a new car, I'm also looking really quick. I'm also looking for some new music. Are you listening to music, or are you out of it?

I have not been listening to a lot of new music lately. I've fallen off my album a week thing. I need to get back on it. Courtney's been listening to some incredible stuff and I feel like I just hear it by proxy. Having a partner that's like a music guru is so helpful. What is it?

Marina? Is that, is that? Yeah, that shit rocks. Fuck yeah. There's just so much good stuff. There's so much stuff. But anyways, we are over time. I'm just, I'm just chat now, dude.

I was thinking this was going to be like more laughter, fun time. Sorry. We've got some serious stuff. No, that's how it goes. That's how it goes, bro. Dude, it's how it goes But I'm excited for these next few weeks

We're going to do some silly shit The shit we have planned, I'm really I'm really pumped It's going to be a great time I wonder if Amanda's going to watch these episodes That adds pressure That's really sweet I hope she does

Let's say something like So we'll know if she did or not Yeah Amanda If you watch this Text us Potato Potato And it's gonna look bad if you don't, babe

It's gonna be really cringe Because like what are you doing Like, what are you up to? Just be on YouTube right now I don't know what else you could be doing I'm sorry You've got time Potato

All right Thank you guys for watching Well hey we'll be here next week That's so fun Sick dude Bye Bye