Smosh Mouth - #20 - We Convinced Her Five Nights At Freddy's Was Real w/ Spencer Agnew

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Go to http://factormeals.com/smoshmouth50 and use code smoshmouth50 to get 50% off. Shayne and Spencer prank Amanda, talk about video games, and do Chosen things. 0:00-0:42 Intro 0:43-16:17 Real g...amers only 16:18-30:20 Addictive games 30:21-31:47 Sponsors! 31:48-32:11 Prank explanation 32:12-39:29 FNAF prank 39:30-47:31 Game education 47:32-49:44 The Chosens appear 49:45-54:59 Were you judgemental when you were younger? 55:00-1:03:25 Games video ideas 1:03:26-1:08:39 FNAF reveal WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Amanda Lehan-Canto // https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/ Spencer Agnew // https://www.instagram.com/spennser/ OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Pit: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Twitter: https://twitter.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:19 If you have questions or concerns about gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hello and... Hello and welcome back to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane. And I'm Amanda.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And we have a special guest that we haven't had on before, Spencer Agnew. Thank you guys for having me. Is that your last name? Is that his name? Yeah. Agnew? I do really want to do a challenge where we all try and spell Angela's last name and see if you can get the close-up. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:01:00 G-I-A-R-R-T-A-Z-X-Y-V. I think that's correct. Thank you. Spencer, thank you for being here. Today is the gamer episode. This is all about gaming. So if you aren't a gamer, that's fine. Stick around because you're going to learn all about gaming.
Starting point is 00:01:20 We have two gamers here and one person who is not a gamer. She is such a gamer. She plays games every day of her life what were your top three games again? Grand Theft Auto I think it was
Starting point is 00:01:34 Vice City Vice City thank you and we've triggered that out 007 okay GoldenEye cool
Starting point is 00:01:44 for N64 it was actually Asian Under Fire very cool 007. Okay. Golden Eye. Cool. For N64. It was actually Asian Under Fire. Very cool. And what's the fucking, God, now I sound stupid. The Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk Pro Skater.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Thank you. I played that a little bit. Wasn't super into it. And that's in your top three. Also on Gateway 2000, the mouse game where the mouse has to go through
Starting point is 00:02:06 and chase the cheese by the castle. Thank you very much. And, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego? Okay. Hello?
Starting point is 00:02:13 That counts. Big gamer right here. Stop the clock. I searched for Carmen Sandiego and had to kind of laser elevators to see if I could find her. Do you guys remember that game?
Starting point is 00:02:25 You had the laser elevators? Yeah, it was like... I never played. Okay. I was playing real games. I guess the real gamer is here, me. But clearly, Spencer, you are the actual gamer. We know this because on Smosh Games,
Starting point is 00:02:41 we did a guess the game thing where we're shown an image of a sliver of a screen of a game, and you were scary good at it. You knew games that I had never even heard of, like Legacy of Kain,
Starting point is 00:02:58 and you were like, oh, that's definitely Psychonauts 2, and you would be correct. I think I just I kind of absorb that kind of knowledge like a sponge like oh and it happens for movies too like you know I I can really like I can see a movie once and I don't really forget that experience like that movie or like that game that I played like it's all just I don't know like it's crazy sometimes people be like I can't believe you
Starting point is 00:03:25 remember that. You saw that movie once. That's kind of why it's when people are like, yeah, I watched that movie four times in a week. That's crazy because I can kind of recount it pretty easily. I don't know. I'm with you on that. Do you have a bit of a picture memory?
Starting point is 00:03:42 I think so. Photographic. Photographic memory? Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's called a photograph. That's fine. Picture memories. You have a picture memory? I think for movies and games, yes. I'm the same way.
Starting point is 00:03:54 When people are like, oh, I saw that movie four times, I'm like, why? Everything is... Yeah, it was the same. Yeah. Yeah. I'll remember... I will, over time, start to fade out small details, but I'll remember the gist of a movie. Oh, I remember like all the little scenes. I have like standout moments,
Starting point is 00:04:10 and I think about those moments so much that I forget other parts of it. Like, for instance, Metal Gear Solid 4, there's a part where you're driving around on a motorcycle in Europe, and you hit this cool ramp and it goes slow motion for the first time in the game. You go through all the game and it never is slow motion ramp and it goes slow motion for the first time in the game. You go through all the game and it never is slow motion.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Suddenly it's slow motion for this moment and my brain just thinks about that because when I was playing it, young me was just like, whoa, freaking out. Oh, so you remember the really cool moments. I remember the moments that really got me going. You triggered a memory actually of another game that I played that probably, me and my sister
Starting point is 00:04:47 are trying to figure out what it's called but we can't remember it. I definitely had a lot of computer games. It was just me on skis. Like I played a guy on ski. On ski free. Is that it? See what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:05:01 So you'd ski a mountain and that's it and you're just like. And our whole goal was to try to get to this side of the mountain but you were ski a mountain and that's it and you're just like and our whole goal was to try to get to this side of the mountain but you were like and the Yeti comes and get you? Yes! Yeah, yeah, it's ski free.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It was in that collection with like the mouse game. And then there's that pirate named the skin taker and he shows up. That's the other episode. Yeah. Holy shit, I have a lot of questions. So you played a bunch of games like on your computer when you were a kid, or you didn't play them a ton.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We seriously, I grew up with, there was four sisters, so we had Barbies, but my little sister was a gamer. She was obsessed. Capital G. She played Age of Empires, she played Sims. She had a little fucking gamer. Other than that, we had nothing, what is it called? A little gamer.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Shut up. A little gamer. Other than that, we had nothing. What is it called? A little gamer. Shut up. A little gamer. I can judge you for not knowing a Game Boy. Anyways, we didn't have PlayStation until later, and my mom despised it. She despised it. She was like, turn it off.
Starting point is 00:05:59 She thought it was witchcraft. Yeah, we just couldn't Get that cursed device out of here. Your mom's a pirate. She's so piratey. So the computer games were like, because it would be like, oh, I'm working. Sneak in there.
Starting point is 00:06:14 No, it's really funny, like the absolute, like the quality of games that we would play as a kid, kind of because it was like all that was available. Because you couldn't like download games from the internet. Like now you go on Steam and it's literally thousands of games released a week. And you own thousands of games. I do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Do you? I think I own like, it's crazy. What if you throw out a number? I think it's probably 2,000 or 3,000. What? But you know that you're not gonna play at least 1,500 of those games. No.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Ever. I'm not gonna play, I'll play like a game a month maybe. Why do you have that many games then? A lot of them you just kind of, you kind of just wind up collecting them. Like I'll see like, oh, like I wanna play that game later. And it'll be like $10 so you'll buy it.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And then. Is it all in your computer? Yeah, so it's all, it's all on this account and you can open that account anywhere. So it's like I can, you know, put it on my computer at work. I can do, so it's all on this account, and you can open that account anywhere. So it's like I can put it on my computer at work. I can do, so it's like. So you're not working.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah, so I have like that. Well, he is working. He's in charge of games. Oh, my God. At Smosh. So, yeah. Technically. Did you ever read The Far Side?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Like the comics? Yeah, that's where they'd have like cows sometimes. Yeah, it was kind of cow themed. You've seen them. I've seen them. Again, comic books. It was next to the family circus. It was in the newspaper.
Starting point is 00:07:34 This is real gamer talk. Oh, in the newspaper? Yeah. The newspaper was for me to see what movies were playing. Do you guys remember when movies were only in the newspaper or you'd have to call and listen to all the movies? I'm not that old, but this is, what is happening? Hello?
Starting point is 00:07:51 I don't know why I don't remember that. You don't? Do you remember the newspaper? No, I remember this. Do you remember the newspaper? The only two things I would go, I would see what movies were out and then I would see, and then I would read like fucking Dilbert. Okay, I would read Dilbert. I feel like Spencer and I are very similar.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah. But the Farsight, anyway, there was this one cartoon, and it was like this little kid sitting there. I know this one. Yeah, and the little kid's sitting there, and he's playing like he's a Super Nintendo or something like that, and there's the parents behind him, and the dad's got like a pipe and stuff,
Starting point is 00:08:20 and they're looking like really proud, and it's like hopeful, and the caption's like hopeful parents and it's them picturing this like, the job listings in the newspaper. It's like wanted gamer, like $100,000 a year salary, like plus Ferrari, like all those. And it was like all these listings and my parents would always bring that up to me as a kid, like oh yeah, this is what you think
Starting point is 00:08:41 is gonna happen, blah blah blah. And now that I literally do have a job, I love shooting that joke back at them. No, in many ways I truly do get paid to be a gamer in many ways. Which is. You do. It's funny that you mention that you play a game a month
Starting point is 00:08:58 because you are so busy making content about games that you actually don't have enough time to game. That's true. It's like, I mean, it's kind of the same like with shows and movies and games. Like by the time I'm done with work, by the time I get home, I kind of just want to watch YouTube.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like it's, I don't really have the, like to me watching a movie is kind of energy or playing a game is expending energy. It's thought, or there's not really head empty. What's funny is that I feel like you and Damien are seen as more the gamers on Smosh, but I do play a lot of video games in my spare time. I just don't play the games that we play on camera that often. I'm playing Legend of Zelda
Starting point is 00:09:46 all the time or I'll play I was playing Vampire Survivors for a while I did get hooked on Party Animals though that game was awesome it's always really funny to see what you get hooked on I get hooked on and it ranges but I've had a hard time with games that require a big
Starting point is 00:10:02 commitment like RPGs and stuff like I think I know we always talk about Last of Us Part 2 but I think had a hard time with games that require a big commitment, like RPGs and stuff. I know we always talk about Last of Us Part II, but I think if that were to come out right now, I'd be like, I don't have the time to play this. I know, I know. I feel like Last of Us, my friend, watched all that gameplay. I feel like if it's really interesting,
Starting point is 00:10:18 I would be down to watch the gameplay of that. There's so many games that I would like you to see because I think you would be into them. Like, I think you would truly be into so many of these games. I know. I honestly, I know that I would. I think when I get exposed, like with D&D, like when I get exposed to something, I am so into it because I love like mystical stories. And my husband's a gamer.
Starting point is 00:10:43 He plays games. And I'll sometimes I'll sit and watch and be like, ugh, I can't do this. But some of them, like Diablo, I was like, ooh, I'm fucking into this. This is dark and spooky. I would argue that if you enjoy watching Diablo, there's other games you would really enjoy.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Because Diablo's not that fun to watch, I would contend. Yeah, there's certain... I would almost say. There's, yeah, there's certain, yeah, like, I would almost say, like, the, the, like, The Last of Us show was, like, fine, but the game is almost, like, even more crazy, especially by, like,
Starting point is 00:11:15 by the time you get to the second one, like, just, I think you'd be really blown away by, like, the fidelity and stuff like that, and, like, the storytelling at Expose Me. No, I think that'd be awesome. I think it'd be great. And look, we have a whole channel where we can do it. I would absolutely love that because...
Starting point is 00:11:32 What about a horror game? You know I love that. Okay. I mean, Last of Us is scary. But there's like horror games. No, like horror. When I played Baldur's Gate with... Well, I didn't play.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I sat and watched Damien do it. I was super into that, too. Oh, yeah, that's a storytelling game. I love storytelling. I love characters. I love creatures. I love creatures. And I love, there's horror,
Starting point is 00:11:54 tons of horror aspects in Baldur's Gate. Yeah. Isn't there like a brain that moves? It's not a horror game. But there are a lot of like, I am obsessed, and I was thinking about this driving in, like how many, just kind of how much I love
Starting point is 00:12:08 like horror concepts, like as a, because I'm trying to remember what I wanted to explain. But yeah, just like, you know, like the concept of like that worm infesting your brain. Speaking of, we were just talking about Followed the House of Usher, and that main actor, Roderick, he gets the worm in him in the Star Trek movie.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I don't know if you remember. He does? I remember he's the captain who, like, and remember they have, like, the worm that they put in his ear? Yeah. So I watched a bunch of Star Wars. Star Trek, never really watched. Dude, the J.J. Ambrose movies?
Starting point is 00:12:40 They're good. Unfortunately, super fun. Oh, okay, I've watched a couple of those movies. They're really good. And also we were talking about that Captain Kirk's face is Halloween mask. Yeah. Oh, yes, yes. I thought you meant Chris Pine.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I thought he was hot. No. No, no, no. Chris Pine? Scary. The original William Shatner. But that actor from Follow the House of Us sure does a lot of stuff. He's been acting forever.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. I'm trying to remember his name. I'm bummed I can't remember. Put it in the comments down below. What's his name? So, the games that you played were when you were a kid. So, you have not played any. They've come a long time.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You haven't even played any games on Smosh Games, have you? No, but I... You're more in our board game. But I would honestly love to because during COVID, like H does these things where he's like, my birthday gift, play Diablo with me.
Starting point is 00:13:30 My birthday gift, play Age of Empires with me. And I said, I think on this podcast that I played Age of Empires with him and I loved it, but my whole goal was to like feed the troops
Starting point is 00:13:40 and build it up. And then I look up and H has like built a fucking castle around me and about to attack me. I like to build it up. And then I look up and H has like built a fucking castle around me and about to attack me. I like to build the world. I like to build and live in a world. So if there's a game that I can play,
Starting point is 00:13:52 there's so many. Look, the game that I always pitch to people is Stardew Valley. Stardew Valley. Stardew Valley, because you can't lose. You're just, you. That's the other thing. I don't give a fuck about winning or losing
Starting point is 00:14:05 like i'm competitive but when it comes to winning or losing it's too big that i'd rather just like survive and play let me tell you the premise of stardew valley and you're gonna you're gonna love it okay okay because i was addicted to this game okay you it starts off and you see your grandpa and he's sick in bed because he's old and he's dying and he gives you a letter he's just like he's like hey um i want you to have this um this letter and i want you to open it up whenever you in life feel that you've hit a dead end and you want like a change and so then it cuts to your character it's very like pixelated it's like old school like imagine like 90s yeah yeah looking thing and it cuts to a building in the middle of a city and you're at a cubicle and you're sitting there typing with a bunch of cubicles around you. And then your character sits back and then opens up a drawer and finds a letter.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And you open up the letter and it turns out your grandpa gave you the rights to his farm near this town out in the middle of like the sweet town. And he gives you his old farm that he's like, if you want this farm, it's yours. And so then you move to this farm, and you then start off, and it's this little tiny farm, and you've got all this land, but it's covered in weeds and stuff. And you just start fixing up this farm, and you have the town with all the people there, and you get to know all of them, and there's a story to every person that you meet and you you just kind of do your thing and and you cannot die if you go out if you go out too late you pass out and you wake up at your front porch or uh so you there's no losing in the game you just slowly kind of build up your farm
Starting point is 00:15:41 and you and you get crops and you plant them and you have to water them every day, and then you grow them, and then you sell the plants for money that you then use to build up your farm. It's like Oregon Trail. Yeah, but it's even sweeter. It's like the end of – it's like if it – It's like Oregon Trail, but you can't die. Okay, I like that. There's no dysentery in Stardew Valley. I like that, but I will say it's fun to have an underlaying of something coming and consequences.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Also, I like that very much. I think that would be really, really fun. But I think the part of Age of Empires was like this little underlaying of consequences. Someone's in that fog that can come out and kill me. Yeah, like I still kind of like that because it like puts a fire under me. But I think if I were to play that game, I think I'd be on it constantly.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I think there's another side of me that like. You're afraid. I'm afraid to get into games because I'm like, what if I lose my soul? Like I'm just constantly playing it. Oh, get addicted? Because I get addicted to shows. Some detective shows, I'll be up until four in the morning watching them. That is a good, because I know a lot of, I mean, this might get a little, I don't know what the word is, but gender stereotype.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But everyone's always like, oh, dudes, they're came and they're like they're up with their boys playing call of duty but a lot of like women i know it's like you know they'll play sims and they'll be doing like the most depraved shit until like like staying up like all night i know those women that's my sister and some of my friends they're like dude fucking i got pregnant i was underneath the blankets i was having sex i'm building all these houses i'm like when do you sleep? They're like, never. And I'm like, I can't. That was my friend with Stardew Valley. So she was like, oh, I've been playing a lot of Stardew Valley.
Starting point is 00:17:30 That's what I'm worried about. I've been playing dozens of hours. I was like, oh, that's crazy. And she invited me to her farm. Because you can visit someone's farm online. And I visited. And my Switch literally could not. It was chugging.
Starting point is 00:17:44 There was so much stuff. The hardware of the Switch could not keep up with how much shit she had built out. See, that's what I get worried. I think it's because the way I grew up, as my mom was like, TV and all this is going to rot your brain. I get worried that I would get trapped and addicted. Yeah, I think there's a way to moderate moderate it what's tough with games and how you
Starting point is 00:18:06 get addicted is that it's games are designed to kind of feed into your reward complex in your brain right of like oh i'm working on this thing and i achieved this thing and i got a reward for it and you kind of keep wanting to like do that if you find the right game that perfectly gets you in the way that you're motivated in the way you like to achieve things, it will be bad. I was at one point in my life absolutely addicted to a game to the point where it was a problem and that was a game called World of Warcraft.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And I was 14 years old. I think you saw the movie. With Tom Cruise? No, Warcraft. What am I thinking? Oh, War of Worlds. Yeah, that one. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I've got it. That's a great movie. I did not see the movie. So at 14, I got super addicted to World of Warcraft. And I was acting at the time, so I was homeschooled. And my school was online. So I could be doing schoolwork online, but I would just have World of Warcraft pulled up,
Starting point is 00:19:08 and I would play it for all day, every day. And I mean, there was a year, and you could see the amount of time you played. Now, I would often just have it up on my computer where I wasn't playing, so that a lot of these hours don't count, technically, but in the span of a year, I had logged like three months of play time.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Jesus Christ. Yeah. And it was so bad that 15-year-old me that year, it was December, 15-year-old me was like, I have to stop. Yeah. I recognized it.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I was like, I have to stop. And I uninstalled the game. I threw it out. And I was like, I have to stop. And I uninstalled the game. I threw it out. And I was like, I'm never playing it again. I was like, I'm never playing it again. Now, I've played tons of games since. But I realized for me, I needed games that I can beat. If I can beat the game, then I can beat it.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I know I won't be addicted to it forever. And I've had a much healthier relationship. then I can beat it and I, and I know it won't, I won't be addicted to it forever. Um, and I've, I've had a much healthier relationship. I don't think games are like bad, but I think people have to recognize, and this is anything, just if you have an unhealthy relationship with something, with something where you feel it's messing up your life in some way,
Starting point is 00:20:20 then yeah, you have to, you have to recognize that and do something about it. And that could be anything. But for me, it was that game. And I, dude, I was so recognize that and do something about it. And that could be anything. But for me, it was that game. And, dude, I was so addicted, man. And I remember it.
Starting point is 00:20:33 The Glory Days, my Tauren warrior. I was going to ask that. I was a giant, like, bull-like monster, a minotaur-type monster. Oh, cool. And so you would play. It was entirely online. And so there's tens of thousands of people playing and you're in this big open world with tons of people playing and i chose uh to be in the horde which is the like bad guys so i was orcs undead and i was a giant minotaur
Starting point is 00:20:57 guy but i was a warrior so i had a giant axe and um i joined a guild of like a bunch of other people. And so me and like 40 people would join up to go and go in dungeons and like fight giant monsters and stuff. And you're all talking on microphones and stuff and like you have a part to fulfill. On Ventrilo. Yeah, and it felt you had such an obligation. It kind of got to a point where it was no longer fun
Starting point is 00:21:24 and like, oh shit yeah my guild is meeting up tonight oh you didn't go to the you didn't go to like the the raid so you don't get the rewards and then you never actually really leave your house as a person it's it's and that becomes your social circle and that and and it's it's it
Starting point is 00:21:39 can be I do think it can be a problem I don't think it is inherently, but for me it was. And I mean, without, maybe it was shitty, I didn't even tell my guild, but I think my guild fell apart.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Your guild is gonna show up like, say shit. But it was so much fun. It was, but a lot of it was just this feeling of, oh, I wanna achieve this, and I gotta do all this stuff to achieve this. But I look at what I was actually doing in the game, and a lot of it was just this feeling of, oh, I want to achieve this, and I got to do all this stuff to achieve this. But I look at what I was actually doing in the game, and a lot of it's really dumb.
Starting point is 00:22:09 A lot of it I'm like, oh, I'm hunting in this area for these gems, and I'm just going in a circle for hours trying to find these creatures to kill to get these gems so I can go sell them and get money. And then go back and get the gems. And it would take, in order to achieve something in that game,
Starting point is 00:22:24 I wanted to get a mount, a horse. But for my character, it was like a giant monster thing. Yeah. It took me weeks of work to get it. Then that's, I will say that's a good game because they fucking got you.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You have to pay monthly. What's your most addictive game, Spencer? I was addicted to World of Warcraft a little bit. It was an incredible... So kind of everyone was, but I was nowhere near the degree of that. But the addictiveness of games is something that I've thought about a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And because World of Warcraft is kind of the first one I remember a lot of my friends being addicted to. I remember watching my friend get addicted to Call of Duty 4 in like real time and a lot of it i was kind of realizing was like the sound design and world of warcraft is kind of the same way like there's a very specific sound like when you level up like that becomes nostalgic that becomes like it becomes almost like you want to hear that sound it's it's like the slot machine thing where like you pull it in call of duty what they did like for the first three games you know it was like you would you would join an online game
Starting point is 00:23:30 you would shoot all the people and then you would and then you would log off and you'd be like that was crazy and starting with the fourth one that was when you would shoot somebody and it'd be like plus 50 points and like and then like with that 50 points, it would be like, okay, now you're closer to level two. So it's all like that reward sound. So it's a reward sound, so now in every Call of Duty, there's a sound like when you shoot something and hit something.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like it's a very distinct tick sound that your brain almost gets trained to enjoy. And then there's a sound for if you get three kills in a row. What's that, Pavlovian? It's very Pavlovian. And World of Warcraft is kind of one of the first ones I remember. Makes sense. Just like there are these sounds that get stuck in your head
Starting point is 00:24:21 and you just want to hear them because it's satisfying. It's like a TV show opening song that you get addicted to that you're like, ooh. There's like a little, like in Call of Duty, there's like a little guitar riff when you gain a level, and it just becomes. And then you go back and play older games, and when you're missing that, you realize you lose a lot of that satisfaction. That's so interesting. A lot of it, I think, really got bad when games now have an incentive to keep you playing. Because back when I was younger, before World of Warcraft,
Starting point is 00:24:52 which was since it was a monthly subscription, they wanted you to keep playing. So they were trying to incentivize you to play and not wanting to stop playing. But before that, games were just kind of designed to be like, we try to make this great game so that people would buy it. And once you buy it, now they don't get any more money because we only just sold you that.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But nowadays, games have so much more stuff in them to spend more money on. They want you to buy upgrades. They want you to keep playing, like have a subscription to it. So they are actively trying to design it to hit that reward complex in your brain to make you want to keep playing that next bit. And it's not just a matter of, oh, I'm playing that game because it's really fun. It's-
Starting point is 00:25:35 I gotta unlock the next step. I'm compelled to keep playing. Like a lot of, the two biggest ones right now, I mean, two of the biggest are Call of Duty and Fortnite. And both of them, the main mode that most people play are free.
Starting point is 00:25:50 But they'll do season passes, which are like, it'll run for a month or two. And if you get to, if you play during that time, you can unlock certain things that will never be unlockable again. So you're like, fuck, I have to buy the season pass right now and unlock certain things that will never be unlockable again. So you're like, fuck, I have to buy the season pass right now and unlock these things.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And then you'll have points left over from that one. So you're like, fuck, I might as well buy the next season pass, because I want the things unlockable in this. And it just kind of becomes this vicious cycle. So this game that's free, Fortnite's free, and I probably spent over $100, which isn't that much in like
Starting point is 00:26:26 compared to what a lot of people have spent but like it's crazy cause you know it's whenever like the first one's free and then it's like. It's honestly brilliant. It's genius but it's. I will say like to me when I play those games I'm thinking about other things. Like I'm thinking about the group of people who are creating the guitar riff.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And, like, I'm thinking about these two guys in a studio. Like, meow. Like, I'm thinking about all those other things. And I'm thinking, like, wow, this is brilliant marketing. Wow, this gets this. So it's like I would have to be really into a game to get immersed into it like i will say when i played age of empires which is like such an old game but i loved like the travel aspect of it i i like when it's like a different layout like a different frontier and but i think the spending
Starting point is 00:27:20 money is is hard i think that maybe would turn me off because I think it's the way I grew up. TV was very limited in my house. We weren't allowed to watch that much TV and money was very conscious. We were very aware of what shit cost. But just my mom was really intense. We were the type of kids who would,
Starting point is 00:27:42 if we heard our car come in, we'd turn off the TV and be like da da da, da da da, da da da. really intense. Like we were the type of kids who would like, if we heard our car come in and we turn off the TV and be like, it's so much more complicated nowadays with so many subscriptions and just like digital purchases all over the place. It's so easy for your wallet to just leak nowadays. And kids do like, I'm sure it's preying on them sometimes too. Well,
Starting point is 00:28:01 I'm watching my niece and nephew like ask for my mom's phone or my sister's phone and they they're like oh my god my phone has like seven new games on it what is this yeah and i look at them just like consistently playing their games and there's nothing wrong with that it's just like i i also get like uh fidgety do you know what i mean like it's actually hard for me to sit and read a book for hours because i amanda get fidgety in a seat like i would struggle sitting in a seat for that long that's just yeah i honestly think that's really the biggest thing i i am a believer of because i really like video games but i am a believer of kind of like, I need to set aside the time that I'm playing it. And when I walk away, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And I struggle with the kind of concept of just at any moment, just being able to pull out your phone and just playing a game. And I think that can kind of mess up my brain. I'm not going to speak for other people. But I think it's important for me to be like okay for this next hour here's what I'm doing but I'm not going to be going in and out and that's when it gets bad and that's where things like a game or anything really can kind of start spreading
Starting point is 00:29:14 and taking over your life in a bad way but that's my take on it but I've fallen victim to it Have you ever played any mobile games? Like games on your phone? On your mobile games? Like games on your phone? On your phone. You got games on your phone? I have zero games on my phone.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Have you ever had a game on your phone? I had the snake game on my Nokia when I was 16. Okay. Pretty sick. No, I'm just really intense about, I have a time limit on Instagram. Wow. Like I'm really intense about I have a time limit on Instagram wow like I'm really intense about my phone
Starting point is 00:29:49 I I don't know what it was but I like I get ill like I feel sometimes though I'll be like I want to go on Instagram
Starting point is 00:29:58 and I want to fucking laugh I want to laugh at funny videos and I'll let myself I'll give it and then when I get off I'm like ugh I don't feel good. Like I truly could not play games on my phone. I just fucking, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's just like I didn't really do it as a kid. I genuinely think because I wasn't really allowed to have that much screen time as a kid that it put me in this other. See, I think mine was kind of the opposite. Like, I played, I was not allowed to have an in-home console, and we also didn't have cable. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Going up. You didn't have anything. And I also wasn't allowed to have Pokemon cards, and I mean, now look at me, I'm all fucked up. Damn, you're far. They tried and, no, they tried and I think it kind of backfired. I had all of it as a kid, but I kind of ended up, I feel like, in the middle.
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Starting point is 00:32:25 but Amanda knows nothing. So because of that, we decided to prank her and convince her that the plot of the video game 5 Nights at Freddy's is a true story. So, enjoy. I don't think it's good to be so restrictive, but for me, my obsession lies in like movies i love movies my favorite thing is to like find a good movie i also love to re-watch my favorite classic movies i love
Starting point is 00:32:54 international series like i have an addiction to that we all have a love for movies here i think we're the three i think i'd say of cast, us three are the most movie people. Like, I feel like that's fair. I mean, everyone loves movies, but I think us three are like, we watch all sorts and a ton.
Starting point is 00:33:14 A ton of movies. Those are my addictions. Are you gonna see Five Nights at Freddy's? Freddy Krueger? No, no. It's this weird story
Starting point is 00:33:24 that is based on a true story. Yeah, it's... I know y'all did the horror thing, but it's truly one of the most fucked up stories. It's a true story? So yeah, the movie is based on this true story. So what happened was there was this guy who... It's basically Chuck E. Cheese. And what happened was there were these kids
Starting point is 00:33:50 that pulled a prank on this other kid. And they put his, the kid hated, it was like a birthday party, and the kid hated animatronics. And so they were like. I saw the trailer for it. Yeah, but this, I don't think they'll do this in the trailer for it yeah but this like I don't think they'll do this in the movie
Starting point is 00:34:06 because it's like yeah it's dark I thought it was one of the kids of the owner of it put the other kid in in the suit
Starting point is 00:34:15 or like so he so they were pranking the kid and they put his head in the suit but they were like these like it's called like a
Starting point is 00:34:22 it's called like a spring lock or something yeah like a spring trap it like a, it's called like a, Springlock or something? Yeah, like a spring trap or a springlock suit. It was these, because it was these like kind of experimental
Starting point is 00:34:29 type of suits. The guy who created it like really, I don't know, but it ended up, it ended up, I think killed the kid. It's,
Starting point is 00:34:40 so basically the jaw like snapped on the kid's head. Did he die? He, he died not immediately. They like took him to the hospital. I think he died later. But then he died. But then the owner, the real story is that the owner like lost his mind.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And then the owner, and I don't know if it was proven, but the owner ended up killing like more kids. The owner killed kids and would like whoa how did i miss out on this true crime story there's this guy uh his name is matthew patrick and he like has this youtube channel and and he'll like he kind of like goes into it because he goes into he's a true crime youtuber and so he goes in on all of these types of things. And he does a full in-depth thing about Freddy Fazbear is the main mascot thing. And I think the owner would, it was a really messed up thing. He would wear these costumes. That's how he lured the kids.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And he owned the place. And I wonder, I've always wondered if it was very covered up because places like Chuck E. Cheese and Disney still exist, didn't want that type of connotation. So that's how it kind of got pushed. This is all in the eighties. Um,
Starting point is 00:35:54 I mean, I think it, the internet's also, the internet's also built a ton of lore. And so, you know, for a lot of this, it's all just a theory,
Starting point is 00:36:02 but, um, it's, it really got nuts. And I think there were more, where the internet got nuts was that they were saying that the animatronics were at a certain point doing it on their own. Well, yeah, the internet. You have to be really careful with internet and crime stories because they go off. And it's funny because I was going to come back at you guys with all my murder shows.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And we knew it. And you guys fucking knew this one before me. You had never heard of Freddy Fazbear. I hadn't. But what I was saying is like, you know, like the murder show about the hotel, Cecile, the Cecile Hotel. It turns out that like all of that was just like web sleuths like their opinions so i
Starting point is 00:36:48 i sometimes i stay away from commenters but there are some people who are pretty on point like on tiktok and youtube that you're just like holy mad pat's pretty good he's he's really yeah that's his name but yeah so well after the bite of it's it's called like the bite of 83 like if you look He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:37:09 He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:37:16 He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:37:23 He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He would hide the bodies in there, yeah. But obviously, possession's not real. Blah, blah, blah, that's not real. But then the movie's like, oh, but what if those suits were possessed, blah, blah, blah. See, you talk about getting addicted to games. That's what I get addicted to. Like these stories.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Angela and I, we always trade stories, but I will go for hours digging into Oh, I go rabbit hole so deep. I also go rabbit hole like if I'm watching a movie and I see someone that I like, an actor, I'll go on a rabbit hole in their life. So I get nerdy when I watch movies. I'm like
Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh yeah, that guy was with this person and he did this other movie and that director blah blah and my sister's like, can you just... That's what I get ner that's what I get nerdy about I get nerdy about so what we're talking about is something you would technically nerd out about
Starting point is 00:38:10 oh you know you know later I'm gonna fucking google shocked you haven't heard about it the bite of 83 yeah well
Starting point is 00:38:18 I thought it was the bite of 82 no there's the bite of 83 it's the bite of 83 yeah no it's well known it's super well known yeah you would love
Starting point is 00:38:27 Matt Pat stuff Matt Pat great name yeah true crime yeah true crime is my geek out
Starting point is 00:38:34 how you've missed out on arguably the best true crime channel on YouTube wow yeah looks like we're the experts I don't think so
Starting point is 00:38:42 I don't think so I wrote down he's been on the channel a couple times. Okay, guys. I get it. All right? Fucking, I get it. I suck ass.
Starting point is 00:38:52 It's okay. Hey, hey. No worries. Matt Pat. This was a long time ago. This was a long time ago. This is the 80s. Tomorrow I'm going to come in with a Matt Pat shirt.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You're going to come back in tomorrow and you're going to know everything about Freddy Fazbear. Matt Pat. Bite of 83 hat. And what was that? William Afton was the name of the guy? That was the. Yeah, William Afton.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I can't believe I missed out on that. Sometimes I'll go on Netflix and be like, what is this about? Night Stalker? Hmm. Like sometimes I'll miss out on huge ones. But like the small random like the murder in, you know, Cork, Ireland or something. I'm like, oh, I know everything about that. This all happened in Utah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Utah. Utah, man. Why do so many murders happen in Utah, Illinois? There's nothing else going on out there. It's all the damn repression. It's true. East Coast, too. Utah tried to make their own Chuck E. Cheese, and this the damn repression. They tried to. It's true. East Coast too. Utah tried to have one.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Utah tried to make their own Chuck E. Cheese and this is how it went. Oh, God. I have thought a lot about like the, I don't know what the word is. Almost like the concentration of horror writers that come out of like Maine and Massachusetts. Like stuff like that. I mean, you have like all of like the biggest like horror creators have kind of come out of there. It's almost like how crazy it is the amount of music that comes out of like England for
Starting point is 00:40:10 how tiny it is. Like there's so many like English artists, English actors. It's because they talk like this. Yeah. You gotta sing. You don't want to hear them talk. Mate, you reckon that we should sing? Also, I feel like for now going into Irish, but I feel like for actors,
Starting point is 00:40:26 they're in England because they take acting on another level, like very theater-y, very serious. And Ireland, who comes out of that? Colin Farrell.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Colin Farrell. Just Colin Farrell. Just Colin Farrell. The one, is Saoirse Ronan, is she Irish? Saoirse Ronan. Saoirse Ronan.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Saoirse Ronan. But she Irish? Saoirse Ronan. Saoirse Ronan. Saoirse Ronan. But I think there is something super pleasant about when English or Irish or Scottish actors do an American accent. I think it almost hits different. They do it better. They're focusing on words in a very different way. They have to be more intentional, and I think a lot of that pays off in a very subtle but do you agree that they sound a little bit more east coast
Starting point is 00:41:11 yeah do you know what I mean like Chris Hemsworth like maybe that's just Australian like a little bit more like east coasty I don't know maybe that's just me yeah it's probably just you.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Anyways, pretty cool. You ever heard Dan Stevens do his American accent? No. It's crazy. I can't wait to hear it. Yeah. MatPat, Bite of 83, Dan Stevens. Dan Stevens.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You're going to come in as an expert. I have fucking homework to do, but nothing on games. Actually, I really do. If you were to show me three games that I could watch. I would love to do that. Or play, can we do that? We could play some games on Smosh. I mean, this is your decision, Spencer.
Starting point is 00:41:57 But we could play some games on Smosh games where it's introducing you to a huge franchise. So people who are into it would be like, oh my God. That's what I've always wanted to do, and I'm sorry to throw on main, but like Kiana. Because Kiana knows almost nothing about games. It's so funny. Arguably a lot of movies. And I'm like, you are like the perfect like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 Kiana and I should. Yeah, like person to be like, because she had never seen like Jurassic Park. I was like, that's insane. That's insane. OK. It's almost like, because she had never seen Jurassic Park. I was like, that's insane. It's like, it's almost like, it's like, oh, have you ever heard the story of Jesus? It's like, no.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It's like, oh, let me tell you this crazy story. I can't handle that. I also will say being married to someone not from this country, he hasn't seen a lot of the, like we watched Good Will Hunt, he watched Good Will Hunting for the first time with me. And I was just like, and Hocus Pocus,
Starting point is 00:42:44 do not show someone Hocus Pocus for the first time now. Don't. It's not great. Because they don't like it. Yeah. It was like, this movie's weird and wacky. And I'm like, huh? And also, Death Becomes Her, one of my favorite movies ever.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Don't show someone who's never seen it back in the day. Because if you're, I think movies in the 80s and 90s, they don't translate unless you've seen it before. Unless you have that nostalgic memory to it. Yeah. It's tough. And you're biased if you watched it when you were young. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's hard then. They're like, this is silly. And you're like, what? Yeah. I think it does require a certain like suspension of almost like, you know, this is another can of worms, but it's like when you show someone anime, it's like there's so many things where it's like if you watch anime, it's like, yeah, that's like kind of par for the course. Like where someone who doesn't watch it watching,
Starting point is 00:43:35 they're like, what the fuck is this? Like that's weird as shit. Like what's the part of that? And it's like if you get hung up on those, but there's just certain, you almost build up a tolerance. And I think think you know this is this is like so goofy of us for saying this but like even 80s and 90s and like even like early 2000s movies like just like the things they're saying if you watch a movie before like
Starting point is 00:43:54 2010 you like i usually like it's like you like if you give them you give them a certain amount of time a comedy movie from before 2010 oh there's certain words they will say it's like i give them a certain amount of time. A comedy movie from before 2010. There's certain words they will say. It's like I give them 30 minutes before they say that word. It's tough. 10 minutes. Comedy's pre-2010. You're just not going to get through it without there being something that's like, yeah, that doesn't work nowadays. So do you think movies back in the day are the same as games back in the day?
Starting point is 00:44:19 Do games translate as cringy now? That's actually a great question because I try to replay games from like pre, I mean, honestly, sometimes it's like pre-2015 and I'm just like, it's just hard. It doesn't,
Starting point is 00:44:34 they've improved so much that like, this happened to me. You're not gonna know what I'm talking about, but there's a game called Bioshock. Oh, have you played Bioshock? Biodome?
Starting point is 00:44:44 No. There's a game called Bioshock. Oh, have you played Bioshock? Biodome? No. There's a game called Bioshock, and it's so popular. People who've played this game love this game. It's got a whole community around it. Or Verbinski was going to make the movie. It was going to be sick as hell. Cool. It's a really cool premise where, like, back in the day.
Starting point is 00:44:58 He did parts of the Caribbean and shit. Oh, amazing. It's a cool premise. Basically, like, back in the day, super rich people created this utopia at the bottom of the ocean, but then they all went fucking nuts. It's honestly one of the coolest concepts of all time. It's a great game to watch. So Bioshock doesn't really translate.
Starting point is 00:45:22 So I tried to play it years after it had come out. It came out in like 2007? Yeah. Around that time. And so I tried to play it like close to a decade later. And I beat it, but I remember just kind of being like, all right, like cool. There's so many games that have taken its formula
Starting point is 00:45:43 and improved on it since. It's kind of like when you watch an old black and white movie and people are like oh I love that movie but I'm like yeah but it sucks now like it's cool I get it I get that this is where so many other ideas came from but as far as entertainment goes we have
Starting point is 00:46:01 made things more entertaining at least for my modern brain and there's certain old movies and old games that for the time you're goes, we have made things more entertaining, at least for my modern brain. There's certain old movies and old games that, for the time, you're like, oh my god, this is incredible. I would say that they still translate. They still translate. There's definitely black and white bangers.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Casablanca is incredible. Roman Holiday. It's a different type of thing. It's a different vibe. It's a fully different, I mean, the medium was still in its infancy, and that's what you gotta remember with video games. It's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:30 they've only been around since the 70s. That's true. Yeah. Even in the 70s, it was primitive. That was Pong, yeah. So what game was like back in the day still translates now that people still love it? Okay, what games from older times
Starting point is 00:46:47 are still just as good now and someone could pick it up just now and play? I would argue, first off, I think the Super Mario Brothers games are actually... I was gonna say that. I think those have aged, especially when you go back and you play the other ones from the era.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I don't know if you played any of like Spyro the Dragon or Rayman or Donkey Kong or... Nope. What was the other one? Maybe at like a friend's house, but not enough to... Banjo Kazooie even. Like all these games, they just do not play as well as the Mario games.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Because you can put anyone down in front of a Mario game and it's still like, it handles beautifully. And that's something. So that's basically what. So Mario. Mario. I would say like Super Mario Brothers 3. Like going old school.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Like the side scrolling ones where you're jumping on Goombas and turtles. I think. Oh, we play that on the games channel. We have next to our... In our games pod where we work, we have a tiny little TV screen with a Super Nintendo
Starting point is 00:47:50 and we have those games. Tim's been playing Link to the Past. He comes by and sits down and plays that for a while. I think that could be one game that could introduce you. Here, I'm gonna...
Starting point is 00:48:01 I feel like as I'm thinking of games that... Yeah, no, I agree. I feel like... Spencer, you're not gonna be able to see. Here, I'm gonna, I feel like, as I'm thinking of games that, I feel like, Spencer, you're not gonna be able to see. Yeah, you're not. Let me get my glasses. No, you're not chosen enough. Shit.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Other games that could introduce you to the medium. That's tough. Definitely Super Mario Brothers, I would argue. What's your name? I am the Chosen. Okay, great. Other old school games that hold up super freaking well.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Crap. Pretty much the early works of Shigeru Miyamoto. Yeah, definitely. Zelda. I would say the original Zeldas. I would argue that Ocarina of Time hasn't aged well. Ocarina of Time? Yeah. That's fun. Have you argue that Ocarina of Time hasn't aged well. Ocarina of Time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:47 That's fun. Have you heard of Ocarina of Time? I've heard that it's time for me to go back upstairs and leave you boys down here. Okay, can you get us some Dunkaroos? You know what? It's time for me to get the pizza bagels
Starting point is 00:49:02 and bring them back down here. Bagel bites time. No, I haven't heard of that all-knowing one. Have you heard of any Ashley Judd thriller movies? Yes. Along came a spider. I told you that before we started. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And it was a trick because I don't think she's in that one. She's in... I definitely have seen some Ashley Judd movies and I'm just trying to... Double Jeopardy. Yeah. Kiss the Girls. Yeah, there you go. Is Kiss the Girls a thriller?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Kiss the Girls is a thriller to the max. What a weird name for a thriller. To me, any romantic film is a thriller because, frankly, it's a little scary. Yeah, well, have you seen Akira? No. Have you seen Paprika? That's a spice. Have you seen Sweet Home Alabama?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Yes, I have, actually. Okay, well, there we go. We've seen some stuff. And that guy, the lead actor of that is the Home Depot voice. Pretty cool. See? Those are the things I know. Anyways, do you guys want iced tea?
Starting point is 00:50:08 Okay. You guys want iced tea? Where are you looking? I was looking all over the place. My eyes are closed. Yeah, yeah. Oh, anytime I'm playing The Chosen, my eyes are fully closed.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Oh my God, I feel so much better because The Chosen is just like all-knowing. What did you think of dudes who played video games when you were younger? Would you judge people for it? Nope. I genuinely, because my little sister played video games all the time, I genuinely just like
Starting point is 00:50:36 thought it was another world. I was like, man, I'll never understand that. It was more like I got written off like right away. It was like, you wouldn't know. Like, what's happening right now? It was like, you wouldn't know. So when my brain went, you it was like you wouldn't know like what's happening right now it was like you wouldn't know so when my brain went you're right I wouldn't know so I'll never do it do you know what I mean so yeah I've been bullied my whole life um no I'm just kidding I always wanted to play but I I I'm very different now but when I was younger I didn't want to mess up.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So I would less try to go out and experiment things because I was like, well, if I don't know it, I don't want to mess up. Whereas now, it's like, oh, fuck it, I'll try it because I don't care as much about messing up.
Starting point is 00:51:16 But I think back then, it was like, oh, they said I could never touch it, so I probably won't be able to. My little sister was like, you wouldn't get it. Were there things, this is kind of a bigger question,
Starting point is 00:51:25 but like were there things you were judgmental about growing up? Because I feel like you're so non-judgmental, but it's like, did you see like maybe Pokemon Kart and you're like, that's nerdy. Nope.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Interesting. Judgmental about, I mean, my sister loved Marilyn Manson, but I wasn't really judgmental about that. You're judgmental about it now. I think you wasn't really judgmental about that. You're judgmental about it now. I think you could be more judgmental about that. Now I am.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Honestly, I was a little bit like, what a nerd, to my little sister who was obsessed with karate. I mean, she slept in her karate uniform. Okay, that's insane. She was a little bit like, Kikiya! That's fully insane. Get away. But I was such a little freak when I was little. Such a little nerd.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Because my dad gave me a video camera, and I stopped the world to make little commercials when I was younger. My sister, I would make her fucking drink Folgers and be like, Folgers in your glass. I was a freak. I guess you couldn't judge anyone. I was a freaking loser freak.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Like, I, loser in a good way. That's not that crazy. I know, but, like, I didn't have time to be like, ugh, you're so annoying. Like, I didn't give a shit about fashion or makeup, really, or, like, really cool clothes because I always got my sister's hand-me-downs. I was obsessed when I got the video camera. I think I was like six. I was addicted to what was the next little short film or commercial that I was gonna force my sister
Starting point is 00:52:53 to be my husband, my mom, the murderer, the villain, the director. She's like, I just wanna do karate. Stop this. She literally was like, what do I have to do? And I'm like, okay, you are in the pyramids, and we are finding hieroglyphics. Go. Once I made her a mummy for hours. I'm like, okay, you are in the pyramids and we are finding hieroglyphics. Go.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Once I made her a mummy for like hours. I was like, stay in this room. When the camera hits you, when I do this, the camera's on you, react. You know what I'm gonna say here is that I think it's kind of messed up that you had your sister participate so much in your hobbies, but it doesn't sound like you ever really paid attention
Starting point is 00:53:21 to her in your rooms. It's so true. Okay, I didn't mean for that to actually be me. No, but it is true. Like, I... As the older sibling, you... As an older sibling, I'm like, whatever. How do you think it would make your sister feel
Starting point is 00:53:33 if you showed up and you're just like, hey, I know everything about Pokemon now? Do you think she'd be like, what the fuck? I think it was more Sims. Like, if I was like, hey... If you went to a restaurant with her and ordered an imperfect Simlish, how do you think she'd react?
Starting point is 00:53:46 I don't know what the fuck that is. Simlish is how the Sims talk. Garbled you. My sister would lose it. As well as my husband. I feel like he wasn't into Sims, but if I sat down and been like, hey, do you want to play Dota?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Do you want to play Diablo? He'd be like, what? Wait, you told me months ago that for your husband's birthday, you promised that you'd play Diablo with him. be like, what? Wait, you told me months ago that for your husband's birthday you promised that you'd play Diablo with him. Yes. Have you? I did.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You did? Yeah. How was it? It was fun. I had a good time. What'd you play as? I don't fucking know. Some creature that was like,
Starting point is 00:54:15 What was your guy? I, like a big dude. Oh, like a big barbarian dude? And I would have to like go and search in this cave and pick up all the gem things.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, you were a barbarian. I was more into Age of Empires. When he told me to play Age of Empires, I was like, I'm down. Age of Empires is great because you can build up. That was my favorite. I'd always want to make my little town against a cliff or something like that. Yeah, so you're protecting.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Find the right place. Oh, there's berries here. There's trees here. But you played it too peacefully. You're so right. You need to have a more messed up mindset. Should I show up to my sister's birthday in a full karate outfit and know Sims? She would be so happy.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Well, Sims, this is the thing. Knowing Sims is just knowing how to take a shower and take a dump and feed yourself. That's all you do. Hey, I had a Tamagotchi. I played with that. Okay, so you know. Okay. Yeah, but I was tooagotchi. I played with that. Okay, so you know. Okay. Yeah, but I was too involved.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I never wanted them to die. Yeah. That's the thing. I invested too hard. I think I would invest too hard. I can't shut down. Like, when I'm watching a movie, I am fucking in.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I'm like, I don't know how people can just be like, oh, yeah, he's gonna die. Like, I'm just so invested. So I think maybe naturally I'm protecting myself because I think I would just get addicted and obsessed. Sims is insanely addicting.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It is addictive. Look, if you went to Courtney and you said, hey, could we play Sims sometime here? Maybe on a live stream, maybe just... I think I know this. Or just for fun. And if you just said, hey, could you teach me how to play Sims? Courtney would lose her mind.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I think I would know that. Steam would come out like, she'd be like, what? And then she'd... There's a lot of people I'm gonna make happy. Yeah, I'm trying to think if we did a livestream or a video where we were introducing you to a game, I'm trying to think what would be some good ones.
Starting point is 00:56:04 One of my favorite ideas and it would be like try not to rage. That's what it was internally for me. It would be either you or Courtney playing probably Dark Souls, which are these really... We already brought this up because
Starting point is 00:56:19 Damien and I said we were going to have you play this. Maybe look. Maybe we do it. It would be try not to rage and it would basically be like you – so you would play, and then Damien and maybe Shane would have to watch you play and try not to get frustrated. Yeah, we'd have to try to keep it – So you guys would watch me play Dark Souls, and you guys would try not to rage at me playing Dark Souls.
Starting point is 00:56:42 That would be very fun. While we're trying to help you, we should be actively trying to help you get through it. And we have to stay very positive and we cannot get upset at all. That would be very fun. And it would be challenging because those games are tough and they are so hard to tell someone how to play them
Starting point is 00:57:01 if you don't play those games. Wait, I would absolutely fucking love that because you guys would want to murder me. You guys would despise me. And I feel like I can keep calm if I want to but I think I would have a hard time and I can only imagine how Damien would feel.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Because Damien's so good at those games that he would... Could you imagine if I played Baldur's Gate and he was just sitting and watching? That'd be so fun. Oh, that would actually be... That might even be funnier. No, but that, like... Because I also think I'm, like, really calm,
Starting point is 00:57:31 but I think watching anyone play Dark Souls for the first time, just because you have, like... You know, we've been playing those kinds of games for, what, like, 10, 15 years? It should be Elden Ring. We should just put her into Elden Ring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Elden Ring sounds fun. Elden Ring. It's the same type of game. No. Cool. I don't think there's elves in Elden Ring. We should just put her into Elden Ring. Yeah. Elden Ring sounds fun. Elden Ring. It's the same type of game. No. Cool. I don't think there's elves in Elden Ring. Elden Ring is like Dark Souls, but you're just a hero in a messed up world. What's the log?
Starting point is 00:57:55 Okay. That's pretty much it. You're a hero in a messed up world. You're not even a hero. In those games, you kind of play as a messed up thing. You're just a dude. It's just some don't know i i oh i think i surprise i surprise myself you think they're gorgeous i think i think what holds me
Starting point is 00:58:11 back is trying to do it perfectly right rather than exploring and discovering so i think that that would be good for me yeah yeah okay well amanda plays elden ring and we try not to lose our minds watching is a very good premise of a thing look let's do it we've pitched other things on this show
Starting point is 00:58:28 that have become a reality sniper chess again yeah you're gonna love it I really hope we get to do it again I would love to do it
Starting point is 00:58:38 yeah yeah it was a lot of fun I I love what we've been doing lately like things on pit things on games like it's been so fun that game wavelength you didn't you didn't play but we played it on pit and it was so fucking great and i brought it to a party and people were obsessed with it it's really fun it's like i think
Starting point is 00:58:57 of i think of a subject and you or you guys think of a number and then i have to ask from one to ten and then i have to ask a question, and you have to give me an answer based on what you think the rating is. So say it's like, Oh, right, right, right. Like a nine, and I'm like soup, and you're like broccoli cheddar,
Starting point is 00:59:14 but it has to be for you, and I'm like does Spencer like broccoli cheddar? Does he fucks with me? Interesting. It's pretty fucking rad, although when I just explained it, it sounded pretty lame, but it is very cool fun.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Or we should bring Moose Master all over the place. Dude. More Gentleman's Moose Master. More different themes of Moose Master. Yep, Spencer's actively always trying to. Bro Moose Master. Bro Moose Master. You know I would love.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Bro-y Moose Master. I would love to do that. Bro-y Moose Master or like Tea Time Moose Master. Well that's Gentleman's. That was kind of, yeah. Gentleman's Moose Master. Nice try. No, we already did that. Rowing Moose Master or like Tea Time Moose Master? Well, that's gentlemen's. That was kind of, yeah. Gentlemen's Moose Master. Nice try. No, we already did that.
Starting point is 00:59:48 No, no, no. That's already been done. Like ladies. Chosen Moose Master. Chosen Moose Master would be sick. Chosen Moose Master could be very good.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Go around and say like a Kira Kurosawa film. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. No, and here's why. Oh, Amanda would be screwed. I'd be fucked. Okay, actually. Give me one That's pretty good. No, and here's why. Oh, Amanda would be screwed. I'd be fucked. Okay, actually.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Give me one, give me one. What? Seven Samurai. You'd like these movies. Oh, I think I've seen Seven Samurai. Speaking of going back to anime, have you seen any Hayao Miyazaki movies? Is that Spirited Away?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah. You know what? My two friends are obsessed with it and their favorite movie was Spirited Away? Yeah. You know what? I my two friends are obsessed with it and their favorite movie was Spirited Away. I struggled. It made me feel ill. I
Starting point is 01:00:31 it made me feel like I didn't like the pig troughs. Oh yeah. I struggled. The pig trough is rough. I like
Starting point is 01:00:40 I saw it in fifth grade and it really scared me. I don't It's scary. I don't like kind of also like No there's a lot of I don't. It's scary. I don't like kind of also like. No, there's a lot of gross.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Gross animation. It is gross. Ren and Stimpy. Yeah. That's fair. Okay, that's fair. And there's a lot of. But I'd like to watch more.
Starting point is 01:00:54 A lot of the Miyazaki stuff like Princess Mononoke or Nausicaa. They have got a lot of the. And that's kind of what I was talking about with the anime. There's kind of a certain allowance you give. there's a certain expectation of like you know this definitely isn't every anime but a lot of the popular ones like akira has like a lot of the gross like body horror where it's like the like veins will be like contorting or like kind of expanding i think i'm getting more yeah i'm like like when no face like kind of like expands and is like swallowing up everything like there's a lot of the really vis Like when No Face like kind of like expands and is like swallowing up everything. Like there's a lot of the really visceral, gross, like kind of undulating or like throbbing like mass of things.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's like really, really gross. No, Spirited Away, I think it's PG. It's one of those PG movies where you're like, damn. I think it mentally made me feel like the people, like the parents turning into pigs. Oh, that scared me. Oh, it's terrifying. I think it mentally made me feel like the parents turning into pigs. Oh, that scared me. I think it mentally made me feel like, ugh. Like it made me feel low, but I know people love, you know they're doing a live action Spirit of the Way.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Oh, I don't know how I feel about that. They're doing the play. People love, so I wanna give his movies more of a try, because even if something grosses me out, I still wanna see more. Sure. That's why I'm always kind of, not confused,
Starting point is 01:02:06 but people are like, Spirited Away is such a vibe, like blah, blah, blah. Did we watch the same movie? It's kind of an intense watch. Horrific. It's horrific, but the ending is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Their favorite movie. Oh, that's weird. What? But the ending of Spirited Away is beautiful. It ends in a very beautiful way, but it's very horrifying at the beginning. And it's very symbolic. I think what's also is that that movie is very symbolic for a lot of feelings you have as a kid and that that pig trough scene is absolutely there i think what's
Starting point is 01:02:34 yeah i think for me anime like we watched a lot of it you know remember the hans christian anderson right original disney movies or whatever so in the day, they would make anime but put, like, English voices on them. Do you guys remember that original Little Mermaid? It's a little mermaid. It's like anime with English voices on it. It's really, really dark. I grew up watching that. So in a way, I was introduced to anime in that sense,
Starting point is 01:03:03 but it was really, really dark dark but it wasn't gory. It was more fantastical. You haven't seen that one? No. I remember like Little Mermaid dies in the end. Oh it's the original. It's the Hans Christian Andersen ones. It is funny like seeing what I know like Courtney loves
Starting point is 01:03:19 Speed Racer and things like that. Like the old old anime. So it always has been prevalent, but it's never quite... I don't know. Yeah. So basically we need to mix worlds. You guys, I gotta get into...
Starting point is 01:03:35 We gotta do a live stream of Dark Souls or Elden's Ring. Elden Ring. Elden Ring. Elden Ring is a good one I think we could do. Sims is another option. And I feel we cannot end this stream ring elden ring elden ring is a good one i think we could do sims is another option um and and i feel we cannot end this stream without being honest with you i think another one um uh there's another game called five nights at freddy's um jesus where you're a security guard at a pizzeria
Starting point is 01:04:02 in utah and there are animatronics that are alive with ghosts. That should be a game. It is a game. It is? It is a game. We should play it. We were unfortunately lying. It's made up.
Starting point is 01:04:16 No. There was no bite of 83. There was no bite of 83. I can't end this podcast just leaving that. Matt Pat has this show called Game Theory where he kind of like, because Five Nights at Freddy's is a very simple game where you're kind of looking at security things
Starting point is 01:04:33 and the animatronics come in and they're like, but he's pieced together the story from all these different things. Five Nights at Freddy's is a video game series. So everything we told you is in the game. You guys make me feel so bad. You guys make me feel so bad. You guys make me feel so bad about murder. That is my thing.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Do you know how hard it was to say all that with a straight face? I almost lost it. Did you guys plan this ahead? Yeah, we did. We talked about this. We were going to convince you because we knew that we could convince you.
Starting point is 01:05:00 We knew that you were probably the one. I mean, the bite of 83 is such a meme., like the bite of 83 is such like a meme because. Wasn't it bite of 82? No, 83. Yeah. There's also a bite of 87. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:11 You guys, I fully believed it. I was like, wow. That's the, that's how intense the lore of this video game series is. And it gets so fucking stupid. We could literally do an entire podcast of just explaining the rest of the lore to you.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Cause it gets so, it's like, oh, he killed them. then they possessed them, then brought him back, and then he got in this other suit, and that suit collapsed on him, and then through sheer will, he stayed alive in that suit for 20 years, sustained by hatred, and then he was harvesting the, yeah. I was like, how did I not know about this man
Starting point is 01:05:43 who kills children and puts them in the animatronics? The setup of it, I think, is really cool. The setup of this guy and how he loses his mind and kills children, I think, is well done. Five Nights at Freddy's does have a lot of cool lore. It does get insane. Let me say the other cool part is at one point, so the main guy, the guy who killed those kids, his son kind of wants to figure out what his dad was doing. So at one point, he finds his underground lair and stuff. And then he winds up getting scooped,
Starting point is 01:06:14 which is this machine that basically scoops out his organs and his bones. And then it puts one of the machines inside of his body. So instead of the person being inside of the animatronic, the animatronic's inside of him. But then all of his flesh and stuff starts rotting so he smells really bad. And that's why he becomes
Starting point is 01:06:32 the purple man because he's like this gross rotting. It's a crazy, so it's a horror video game series. Scoop. And the way that you play the first video game,
Starting point is 01:06:41 and I'm wondering if it's a good one for us to play sometime. It's fucking, how do you do with jump scares? Yeah, so you're a security guard. I get really scared but I love it. You're a security guard and the game is you looking at all the security footage of this,
Starting point is 01:06:54 you're staying the night at this pizzeria but the animatronics are alive and stuff. So you have to try to like not let them get past you and sneak up on you and you're trying to like. Wait, I wanna play, I want to play. I love that shit. All right, maybe. We're going to figure out what game we're going to introduce you to.
Starting point is 01:07:13 But it's We Lied and I'm Sorry. You fuckers. I wasn't sure we were going to get away with it. In the fight of 83, I was like... But for a moment there... Matt Pat's real. Matt Pat's a real YouTuber guy but he does video game I hate you guys so much I believed it's so hard so anyways for a moment there
Starting point is 01:07:30 Amanda you believed the plot of five nights at Freddy's was a real story and that's a cool experience I feel betrayed I also feel like I wasn't a good murderer person you know you I do not know true crime you know that if you don't know it that it doesn't exist I was like I also feel like I wasn't a good murderer person. You know, I do not know true crime. You know that if you don't know it, that it doesn't exist.
Starting point is 01:07:47 That's the thing. I was like, Shane knows nothing really about true crime. Every time I bring up true crime, he's like, huh? And I'm like, dude, where are you? Charles Manson? The Manson girls? I feel bad. It was very funny.
Starting point is 01:08:03 If you are allowed to get back at me in any way, it was some sort of prank. Okay. I, I deserve it now. Tommy Lee Jones is going to come at your desk. What? Tommy Lee Jones is going to come on my desk?
Starting point is 01:08:15 I said, I was going to say that, but I was like, where did that come from? All right. I said, come at your desk. You look that way.
Starting point is 01:08:23 What does that mean? You know what? Nothing. Okay. Spencer, thank you for being here. Thanks Spencer come at your desk. You look that way. What does that mean? You know what? Nothing. Okay. Spencer, thank you for being here. Thanks, Spencer. That was awesome. Did you have fun? I had a blast.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Yeah, this was really cool. Amanda, we're gonna start introducing you to some games. So pay attention to that. On Smosh Games, we'll probably do it at some point. Yeah, I would love to. Yeah. Okay. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I'm about to nerd out, bitch. Thank you for watching. Let us know. What games do you want Amanda to play? Yeah, what games should Amanda play? Let us know in the comments down below. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:58 See you later. Bye. Bye. Oh, man. I'm so sorry. So the movie is based on the video game? Yes. Fuck.

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