Smosh Mouth - #48 - Are These People For Real?

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

Shayne, Amanda, and Tommy chat about some of their favorite reality TV/internet/real life people who are simply iconic characters. 0:00 Intro 3:00 The best places for people study 6:26 Real life characters we love to watch 1:04:37 Shayne loves Chappell Roan (as he should) SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Amanda Lehan-Canto // https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/ Tommy Bowe // https://www.instagram.com/tomeybones/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Selina Garcia Editor: Luke Baker Producer: Amanda Lehan-Canto, Shayne Topp, Selina Garcia Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar, Josie Bellerby Prop Master: Luke Brau Prop Assistant: Adam Mustafa Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Videographer: James Hull Assistant Director: Marcus Munguia Director of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Coordinator: Marcus Munguia Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Ovsana Tsaturian Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Social Strategist: Erica Noboa, Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia Operations PA: Katie Fink CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Pit: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tommy Bo. It's right over here in the podcast today. Amanda was showing us a clip of the famous acting coach, Stella Adler, absolutely losing her shit. She's very angry. I don't know why my Instagram is serving me Stella Adler acting videos, but it is. Can you do two seconds of that? Well, see, you have to act with your soul.

You can't do this. Why don't we act with our soul? For anyone... There you go. For people who aren't into... Do they talk about Stella Adler in theater classes in high school and stuff? Yeah, they kind of did. Sometimes they'll mention it. Because as soon as I got into acting and came out

here, it was like, Stella Adler and Uta Hagen and they mention them so much. Even though they're more like theater acting coaches. They're not like film and TV. No, they're theater. There's like Stella Adler and Uta Hagen and they mention them so much. Even though they're more like theater acting coaches. They're not like film and TV. No, they're theater. There's a Stella Adler theater. I'm sure there's every kind of theater.

But no, Stella Adler's one of them. Yeah, so anyways, that's what we were talking about right before and that's why you guys did that. It's for the show. It sounds like they're holding in their teeth with their tongue. They're keeping their mouth with their tongue.

She's not even like, I guess she is kind of old enough, but she's just kind of nuts. She's kind of old. With the way her arms were flailing, I'm assuming she's pretty nuts. It's the end. I think it's the end of the time.

She's like, I still got it. Yeah, she's nuts. Today we're talking about characters again, except today we're talking about our favorite real life characters. People we see on the internet, people from reality television, or just anywhere. But there are people in the real world

walking among us who are funnier than any character anyone could ever come up with. Oh yeah. And we'll be talking about that today, But first, Tommy, how are you doing? I'm doing fantastic. I've got sunburns on both of my arms, but just little ones. How? How'd you get little ones?

Well, I was at Universal yesterday, and I saw, okay, speaking of characters, imagine, here we are, walking through Universal. It's closing time in Universal. We're all walking on. This five-foot-tall woman, she was the smallest woman I've ever seen. You've never all walking on this five foot tall woman she was the smallest woman i've ever seen um she was like i don't look down um and uh she was like 50 and like beet red and like sweaty and she was with like her family and she like walks over to the like churro stand or something and she shouts at them and she's like, do you want cinnamon or vanilla?

They're closed. It just really got me for some reason. But I clocked her. I was like, study, study, study, got it. Yeah, Universal is probably an amazing, amazing place to see real people, real characters. Oh yeah, it's great. Disneyland. They're closed.

The best is in the afternoon at a theme park because then families start to argue amongst themselves. They're coming apart. They start to get tired. So you get to sometimes get a show while you're in line. Yep. And, you know, they have entertainment in the lines for rides, but you get the real entertainment when it's like, Nancy, okay, what are we going to do?

All right, we got to figure out what we're going to do next. Okay, guys. All right. Well, Steven's hungry. Yeah. So are we going to eat? All right, we got to figure out what we're going to do next. Okay, guys. All right, well, Stephen's hungry. So are we going to eat? Are we going to eat after this? And I'm like, this is awesome. Yeah, they just spent $6,000 to fly across the country to California or Florida.

And I love the people where they're too loud, but one of them doesn't want the public to know their fight. So they're like, stop it, Stephen. Stop it. Stop. They're looking around all stressed. And they're like, stop it, Steven. Stop it. Stop. They're looking around all stressed. And you're like, I see it all. You see everything that's happening right now. It's truly the best place to look at character walks, too.

Oh. Oh, the limps I saw yesterday. Jesus. New limps that you never even thought of before. Jesus. What? It was crazy. I loved it. It was crazy. I loved it.

It was awesome. Everyone walks weird. It's the best. Remember, this was like a few months ago, but we were impersonating everyone's walk at Smosh. Oh, yeah. We got really hooked on this for a while where we were just talking about like, oh, yeah, and we would bring up a different co-worker. And then we would all try to impersonate how they walk. And we realized that every single person has a unique walk.

Unique walk. Some people walk on their toes, some people walk on their heels, some people walk like chin forward. Chest forward. Some people walk like they're about to get in an argument. My walk is insane, apparently. Whenever people impersonate my walk. Your walk is insane. Your arms are out,

and you're boom, boom. How's my walk? Your walk is normal. your arms are out and you're boom, boom. Yeah. How's my walk? Your walk is this. Your walk is up, up, up and you're tight. It's very tight. Like your whole body is like

squeeze it in and your chin is a little bit up and you kind of tug at your shirt a little bit. You tug at your shirt. I tug at my shirt all... You've always got the middle of your shirt. All thy time? All thy time.

All thy time. I do. I'm constantly adjusting. Same. It's so annoying. I think you've got a little bit of a bounce. I have a bounce. You've got a little bit of a bounce.

You've got a little bit of a bounce. I skip into work. Yeah. I definitely have a bounce. Yeah. You have a flowiness, but a heaviness to your walking. Yeah, yeah yeah you have a flowiness but a heaviness to your walk yeah yeah yeah

a flowiness and a heaviness yeah it's like secure but it's also like you're not like ee lee lee you're like la la la right

and I feel like like Olivia feels like she's about to like walk into a wall but like very aggressively she's like Olivia's walk off also includes her

looking at her phone right some people some people have that yes okay Angela has that for sure She's like, she's trying to decide. Olivia's walk off also includes her looking at her phone. Some people have that. Yes. Okay. Angela has that for sure. Yeah, Angela's is fast. Angela's very, very fast. Who's the fastest, like unconsciously, who's the fastest walker amongst the cast?

It might be Angela. You're pretty fast, though. I'm pretty fast. You are pretty fast. I cover a lot of ground. But you are also walking fast. I am fast. But yeah, you know, your strides cover about 20 feet.

Yeah. I think Angela walks fast, but she kind of zigzags. She's kind of a little like, yeah, it's a little bit like a fly. She's escaping a crocodile or something. Yeah. I guess maybe it's me. It's you or Angela. I walk pretty fast.

I have a lot of things to do to get done. Right. Go to the bathroom and look at my phone. You know. I have a lot of things to do to get done. Right. Go to the bathroom and look at my phone. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. You got to get that done. You have to get that done. I do.

I really do. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Let's talk characters. Let's talk characters that we love so much. Okay.

That we know of. I have one recently that I didn't actually write down that just popped in my head um it's probably because i'm watching the jinx oh jinx part two um who who the first of all the two i don't want to give any spoilers so this is a spoiler well maybe it's not but it's it's bob durst when he talks on the phone to every relative he knows while he's in jail. Bob! That guy's insane. They go, you have a call from Bob.

And he goes, Meredith, it's Bob. That lady's so stupid. She's so stupid. They're putting me on the stand tomorrow. It's a good impression. No, he truly is a butt. You're caught up, right? Yeah, for the most part, yeah.

I'm mostly caught up. It helps to have the downgrade of the phone audio with that kind of voice. Yes. For anyone who doesn't know who Robert Durst is, he's a super rich guy who murdered several people. And when you watch the show, what's the most baffling part is how the fuck did this idiot get away with it? Because he's so insane.

He spent his whole life covering up one murder, then murdered someone else, then murdered another person. And then murdered another person. And he murdered these people. He basically got away with it because he's so wealthy and powerful and then agreed to go on this documentary about him which is basically the reason he got caught and they interview lawyers and the lawyer's like, I have no idea why he did this.

It's the reason he got caught. It's crazy. It's awesome. He gets caught in the midst of the documentary in the first season which is it is terrifying. He's a murderer. It is also very funny how he gets caught.

Yep. How he gets caught is hilarious. And he straight up goes to the bathroom with his mic on, and he's peeing in a urinal, and he goes, I murdered them all. Yeah. It says it. He's like, well, I did it. Well, I did it. I murdered them.

Yeah, I killed them all. You're watching, and you're like, what the fuck is happening? Huh? Yeah. And season two, he still, like, gives did it. I murdered them. While pissing. You're watching and you're like, what the fuck is happening? Huh? Yeah. And season two, he still like gives up things. We were like, what are you do? And I love his close circle of friends who are just they all the women that come in. They go, hi, Bob.

And he goes, stand over there. I want to see how you look. And they stand away and he goes, you still look sexy. And they're like, no, no. They're like 75-year-old women. No. It's, anyways, that's just something that popped in my head.

It feels really bad when you're watching like a true crime thing or just like a serious documentary and there is someone in it that is just kind of funny in a way, and just like as who they are so I finally watched something that you told me about I finally watched Mother

God oh no I didn't tell you about that you didn't tell me I haven't seen it you haven't seen it no I know oh my god Amanda you will freak over this shit someone kind of gave it away to me a little bit and it makes me like oh my god I like that this is a cult turn blue lady yes it is very me a little bit, and it makes me like, oh, am I going to like that? This is a cult.

Turn blue lady. Yes. It is very uncomfortable. It's not a, like, it's a weird kind of documentary, right? Yeah. Because it's not like a true, it's not like a murder or anything. It's not like these people are like, they didn't kill someone necessarily. Yeah.

Basically, this lady, she started a cult full on of people who believed she was God and she was telling them she was God. And at a certain point, it gets to the point where she's drinking so much colloidal silver and also alcohol and just everything. She's an alcoholic. She's a super alcoholic. She is fully just blue and dying from all the stuff she's putting in her body. And this is the thing, though. This is what makes this documentary series absolutely crazy, though,

is they're interviewing the people now, and they all still believe she's God. So as opposed to what you normally get, where it's people being like, this is how I got sucked into this cult, and it's crazy. These are people being like, talking about like,

and she returned, and we knew that she would come back, and they're like, yes, and she was God god and it was crazy to know that she was god and you're watching the documentary like you guys really and then you're watching you're watching the footage and it's like here's just this drunk lady that they believe right and she's like i'm god and they had to keep justifying it they were like yeah so she could drink more than most people because she was God. And it's like, she's just an alcoholic. It was insane, man.

But like, unfortunately, just seeing these people who are so locked in believing, I'm like, there's moments where I couldn't help it. Like, you're laughing out of discomfort. But also, like, there's no way this is real. But I'm like, I know moments where I couldn't help but you're laughing out of discomfort. But also, there's no way this is real. But I'm like, I know it is a real thing. But oh my God, these people are just, the way that they are yes-anding the most insane shit. Just at a certain point, because she obviously isn't God. And at a certain point, she's just like, guys, what if I made it all up? What if it's not real? And they were like, no, you

are God. And so she got to a point where she was like... She surrounded herself by people who told herself the lie that she was telling other people. Of course. That makes sense. They were feeding her the silver because they were like, you said it's going to cure you, so here you go. And they're like, drink up, drink up, drink up. And that's what killed her.

She's dead. Did they have her? They kidnapped her body for a while. She died, and they like. Oh, no. Okay, I knew all of this, and I was actually glad I knew all of it, because it's a lot. It's a lot of info. No, they like moved her body around, because they were like, she's going to come back.

I thought she was going to come back to life. She's going to come back into her body. Okay, I need to watch this. Under supervision with myself, I need to watch this under supervision with myself I need to watch this what? I put it on one night and Courtney and I were watching it and then I was like we gotta watch all of this

we gotta watch all of it it was unbelievable I feel like dark shows like that, unfortunately, have these characters because you are seeing people in the most vulnerable place

and they genuinely believe this thing that you're like, huh? Right. And you're seeing them and that's honestly why I love human beings

and it's like, I think someone said to me the other day, like, you're kind of fucked up. You watch too much true crime. And I was like,

well, it's people at their most like raw and vulnerable yeah and i think i like the study of those type of people yeah it's not like i want to glorify the crime but i like how people tick how people operate right totally it comes from like the love of human beings yes exactly study of humanity and social stuff i have a hard time with true crime that's like murder stuff. Right. But this one was different because this was like a fascinating.

A cult. And like a small type of cult where it was just like more of an interesting of like human psychology. Yeah. And how people work and what people can get sucked into. Because a lot of these believers of hers

were like, they are just the most normal seeming people. Yep. Yep. But then they believe that she's God and that starships are going to show up and take them all away. Oh.

No, it's like far. It is like far belief. They really went there. Yeah. Well, they didn't. Oh, God. They actually didn't go anywhere. Yeah.

They still believed. They actually fully stayed here. They stayed. They're still here. Oh, no. Well, except for one. Fuck. Her. Fuck, dude. here they're still here well except for one her fuck dude well her body is it's back in the hands jesus god so fucked um so yeah okay okay those okay i think a lot of this what inspired me was we were talking about someone uh a while, your favorite reality show person ever.

And it's related to what I would say in the past couple months has been my favorite character, which you're gonna be able to guess. But Abby Lee Miller. Abby Lee Miller. And I will say, I've never watched Dance Moms, but over the years, any clip. What?

Oh boy. I don't watch a ton of reality. You're making him mad. I don't watch a ton of reality TV,'re making him mad. I don't watch a ton of reality TV, okay? Okay. That's where I'm offline. I've never watched Real Housewives. Oh.

I have. I've never watched Dance Moms. I've never watched Vanderpump Rules. I've never watched all of these big ones. I never watched Vanderpump Rules, but I get served their crazy dramatic TikToks all the time of someone throwing a drink. That's awesome.

But I do get served on occasion over the years clips of Abby Lee Miller and they're always the, because they're out of context and I know nothing about her and I know nothing about what's going on, it is always the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. And here's the thing, Shane,

they are in context. They are in context. Wait, tell us about your love for Abby Lee Miller who is Abby Lee Miller wow oh my god this is like my dream to just be like talk about Abby Lee Miller

so Abby Lee Miller is like the I feel like everyone knows who Abby Lee Miller is which is iconic of course I call her Land Ursula she is a Land Ursula. She is a... Land Ursula! That's brilliant. Holy shit!

She is. She is a reality TV star. She is iconic. If I ever meet her, I will implode. So I really want to meet her, but also I never want to meet her, because then what is there to do? Basically, I'm really containing my energy right now.

I'm very proud of myself. I'm like, where do I begin? Basically, she, they wanted to do this show, Dance Moms. They wanted to do this show, Dance Moms. And it was like Toddlers and Tiaras. They were going to go to different studios and just follow different people. But then they were in love with these three moms and it turns out they were all part of the same studio and they were like well what's the well who's the what's

the teacher like and they were like well she's um a large angry woman and they were like film her and they did film her they were like i think the show is just this studio and so they filmed the studio and on the first day of filming or one of the first day of filming um she's like one of the little girls she's like you don't have the right shoes on get out and then like her mom comes in and she's like abby what the hell you did that and then she's like get out of my place and then she like calls the show she's like every every saturday we take the trash out get out and she um she always has like a good quip that's why she i'll get to it in a second so she calls the cops and she's like, every Saturday we take the trash out. Get out! And she always has a good quip. That's why she, I'll get to it in a second. So she calls the cops, and she's like,

no, no weapons, just her mouth. And then it was sold. And then Abby, it was sold. Okay, so she's the best reality TV person because she's built for it. She just knows how to say the right thing. She'd be like, maddie's gonna win this year and kendall we'll see about that it's always just like she's very like she just talks in that

like theatrical way but um the reason i love abby lee miller is because throughout the eight seasons of dance moms you see the rise and fall of a woman you see You see this woman being given everything. It's like, she's the star of the show. She's helping produce it, kind of. She gets locked into a four-year contract, which she did not want to do. They tricked her, she got locked in. So now she's in this reality TV show.

She's doing this show. She's screaming at children. Here's the thing. She's right in that her corrections are correct and that the world is that hard. Everyone just forgets, well, Abby always forgets that these are children. And that's always the key.

But she's an icon. And so you see her slowly, she's losing weight, her hair's getting bigger. She's angry, but in a controlled way. And then she gets two spinoff shows. She gets Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, which is where JoJo started. JoJo Siwa on Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition,

which is brilliant because it's just an audition show to be on regular Dance Moms. So like let's make another show of competition and then if the mom and daughter are good, we'll put them on the regular show. anyway so she gets two spin-off shows now her ego's like she's like i am literally god uh clitle silver she's the real mother god and then she gets uh caught for bankruptcy fraud awesome Awesome. Baby. How? Well, she had filed for bankruptcy before the show all started and everything.

And then she got all her spinoff shows. And then she went to Australia and smuggled some money back. She was just being a little silly with it all. That's fucking stellar. How much money did she smuggle? Do you know? Over, I think it was like,

it's between over 100,000 and half a mil. Somewhere in there. Oh, no problem. Right. Badass. And so then problem. Right. That ass. And so then Abby Lee Miller goes to jail, and she goes to jail on camera. That's fucking crazy.

What? Abby Lee Miller is in the car crying, eating macaroni salad or potato salad with her hands and a napkin because there's no silverware, and it's tragic, and you're just like, holy shit. Oh no.

And so Abby Lee Miller goes to jail. It's awful, but it's crazy. You're just like holy shit and so abby lee miller goes to jail it's awful but it's crazy you're seeing this woman on camera go to jail for a year for a year but then here then she's in jail for nine months and she gets released to a halfway house and she has back pain and she goes and see doctor and they misdiagnose her like three or four times and then finally she gets taken to the hospital, she has lymphoma in her spine. And so Abby Lee Miller, after going to jail, now is battling cancer. And so Abby Lee Miller fights and beats cancer

and goes back to Dance Moms, season eight in her wheelchair. And that's where you've seen that clip where they're like, you don't know theater etiquette? And she's like, eh. And they're like, where are you going? She's like, I don't know, Baskin Robbins. And then she's like going 50 miles an hour on the sidewalk.

And they're like, where is she? Where is she? Anyway. And she goes to the police. Right. To file a complaint against a woman who verbally assaulted her in her ear. To get off the phone. To get off the phone. Right. During a performance. Right. To file a complaint against a woman who verbally assaulted her in her ear. To get off the phone. To get off the phone.

Right. During a performance. Yes. So Abby Lee to me is like everything I want to be in that it's like the confidence and the sheer like self-belief and like self-righteousness and all of that. Like I wish I had that I'm Tommy Bo. And the way that she's like, I'm Abby! And she's also

all of my worst qualities as a person. Of just like, I'm always right. I get angry sometimes. Just like, she's like... In all of my interactions with you, Tommy, i have never once thought you that

you're like abby lee miller and i'm gonna make that change i have okay i don't think you come across like you think you're right all the time i definitely see some abby miller in you see yeah in in the best way when you're like i see it with your character bitch when you're just like boom boom boom and then you're and then yourself goes you can't do that, Tommy. Come on, Tommy. You can't do that. These are people. But it's there. I believe the devil on your shoulder is Abby Lee.

Right, and that's what I mean. Yes, yes. And maybe take away that confident part of her and put that on because God, incredible. What is she up to now? So after her karmic evening of her life, she has... She's a Greek myth. She is.

This is why I love her. She's a fucking grim fairy tale. She was like the Midas touch, everything turned to gold. She got everything she wanted but was evil to children, lost everything, got cancer, but the beat cancer, and now she's back on TV. I don't know. So Lifetime cut ties with her because she's also problematic.

Of course. Lifetime. Lifetime, the TV show, or the TV network. You're telling me she's problematic. What? Exactly. And so, yeah, so she's problematic. What? And so, yeah. So she's trying to do her own show.

And she's been on some, like, imagine Tubi, but even more. Who knows? I've never heard of it. One of those things. She's done, like, a show on that. Anyway. About what? Dance moms, but with adult people.

So it's like, who cares? Oh, yeah. We want to see. No, children again. Anyway. So that's Abby now. She should have, like, who cares? Oh yeah, we want to see. Children again. Anyway, so that's Abby now. She should have a daytime talk show. Wow. She was actually great friends with Wendy Williams.

Fuck. Ooh, Wendy Williams. Tough, tough, tough spot. Tough spot for Wendy. But Wendy at her peak. That's a similar one, where I never watched the show. I didn't even know who she was, but I would occasionally get served clips and I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. That's a similar one, where I never watched the show, I didn't even know who she was, but I would occasionally get served clips, and I was like,

this is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. She's so intense. I quoted her on Try Not to Laugh at one point, just because we had a random cut, and I just go, what was that? What was that? James?

No, and unfortunately, the clip with the Britney Spears thing is the funniest delivery of anything I've ever heard in my life. It's like, shame on you, Mr. Spears. And you too, Mrs. Spears. Death to all of them.

And then she puts her hand up to her mouth. It's so funny. You haven't seen it? No, but I have seen so many Wendy Williams clips where I'm like, oh my God. And she'll look in the audience and go, oh, who's that? Turn the camera away. Right.

And you're like, uh, Wendy. I've realized because like with Abby Lee Miller and Wendy Williams, to be a really stellar reality TV show person is really hard. Because there's a lot of really bad people in the world, right? And being an asshole is often, for the most part, I'd say not entertaining. Right. People don't want to watch an asshole is often, for the most part, I'd say not entertaining. Right. People don't want to watch an asshole. Right. But to be,

you got, like, what is it specifically that Abby Lee Miller and people like Wendy Williams that they do where it's like, oh, you're crazy? And honestly,

I would say shitty at times to people. Oh, for sure. But it's so entertaining. They also have that look. There's like a wink to the camera of almost like, uh-oh, did I just say that? Right. It was like a bit of humanity slightly at the end.

Do you think off camera they're that level? Or do you think it's, with Abby Lee Miller, it's got to be real. She's getting actually arrested. Right. You're getting real life arrested. When she drove her wheelchair all the way to the police station because someone said in her ear to get off the phone and she filed a police report

against them and said she was going to Baskin Robbins that you can't make that you can't act that there's an argument that she is that is the most impressive reality show personality of all time so I'm trying to think of who is more unhinged but also perfectly collected to entertain

at the same time. That's really hard to get. Joe Dirt? Not Joe Dirt. Joe Dirt? Not Joe Dirt. The Tiger King? Tiger King.

Tiger King was really good, but this is the thing. Why did I say Joe Dirt? Tiger King is tough. See, because this is the thing. You get to a point where it's like, oh, but you're actually like a criminal. I mean, Abby Lee Miller is a criminal,

but like... Yes, yes, she, but you're actually like a criminal. I mean, Abby Lee Miller is a criminal, but like... Tiger King is also a criminal. But Tiger King, I think, is too much to watch for eight years. No, no, no. I could not handle it. Tiger King and Carole Baskins, they're enough for that many... Carole Baskins I could watch maybe for eight years.

You think so? And then we found out that she's not a murderer. Oh, her husband is alive, which she said from day one. But Tiger King is a murderer. I've said this before, and it's the reason why whenever I've done characters that are women, they're always like a woman in their 60s or older. Because I think women in their 60s and 70s have the capacity to be the funniest people on the planet. Absolutely.

They give no shits anymore, I feel like, most of them. And I feel like Abby of them and i feel like abby lee miller maybe started that way maybe she was born that way what do you think abby miller was like when she was a teenager i think she's always been this like bombastic psycho i think she's always been just a looney tune i think the ego trip made her worse, and then the other stuff made her better. And now she's had like 10 facelifts, and her face is all stretched back to the back of her head. Does that make her more powerful, do you think?

I honestly think it makes her less powerful. I was going to say. Because she's like, I'm pretty. And it's like, no, you're a demon. Yeah, no, go back. Go back to being a demon. That's why I love you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, because it's like, no, you're a demon. Yeah. No, go back. Go back to being a demon. That's why I love you. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, because it's related to it, but a character, like a real life character that I've been kind of obsessed with, and it's one that's been getting served to me a bunch, is Jojo Siwa. Yes. And you know, here's the thing. Oh, me too.

I have no like real, as you all know, I don't know music. I don't know dance. I don't know this stuff. I can't really judge it. So when people are talking talking about the song talk about all the controversies of the song whether it's a good song or not whether she's a good dancer or not i don't really care what i'm more fascinated about is any clip i see of her talking any clip of her just all the moves she's doing and here's the thing everyone's talking about it's like she's doing really bad marketing she's she's she's doing this all wrong'm like, but did she just spend these past eight years unconsciously learning from Abby Lee Miller to become like really good at fascinating us all?

Because I got to admit, I think she is as a person. So funny. Like the clips I get served are so fucking funny. Her dance, her, her, I saw a whole montage of that fucking crazy ass dance that she does.

It's awesome. So like random strangers. Sometimes I saw this compilation of like a fan going up to her and then she just dropped her purse and did the dance for the fan. And the fan was like, I didn't ask for this. But you're talking about someone who has spent their teenage years, their formative years with a car with their face all over it. Yeah. Yeah.

With a millions of dollars Nickelodeon deal. Insane. Left Dance Moms to go to Nickelodeon and then immediately afterward was like, I'm going to wear black all day. I think she gets off camera and she's just like, anyways, so that voice is crazy. I don't know what she does. We'll see. By the time this episode airs,

I feel like there's always a new thing with JoJo Siwa all the time. Yeah, there always is. There will be a bunch of new developments, but as of what has happened so far, I think it's so funny. Dream guest on my podcast. Dream guest on my podcast.

Let's make it interesting. I think people are underplaying being like she doesn't know what she's doing and stuff. I'm like, give her time. I think she's gonna be Oh, 100%. My theory is that JoJo Siwa knows I'm not gonna be a singer-dancer, like professional singer-dancer,

but I will find a way to be famous. I'll be Abby Lee Miller. Yeah, she's an icon. She's not a artist. I really struggled with that. JoJo Siwa she's an icon. She's not an artist. She really struggled with that. JoJo Siwa did have that interview. She's like, I'm not a singer. I'm an entertainer.

And I'm like, you are an entertainer. You are entertaining people. But this look. The look is crazy. This look. Yeah. It feels like she went to a fair and got face paint on. And hasn't taken it off.

Look what she was raised within though. Like the, like. No, it's true. She hasn't probably gotten a chance to like live in reality. I don't think she has at all. Her mom made her perform.

I hate that I know all this shit. No, I love it. I'm so embarrassed. Her mom made her perform. okay. So you see me walk out the door of this building. I get in my car and I go work out and then I go home and I eat a protein shake

and I turn on a YouTube video that's like, what was JoJo Siwa's childhood like? And then I'm like, yeah. So if you're ever wondering why I'm mentally ill. But her mom would make her perform and wake her up. And she's like a little girl, wake her up. If she had friends over, her mom had friends over, wake her up and be like's like a little girl. Wake her up if she had friends over, like her mom had friends over. Wake her up and be like,

do the dance for us. So she's been like a performer forever. Anyway. So she did not have a childhood. All she knows to do is entertain and perform for people and try things out. Oh yeah.

I'm sure it was not a fun existence at all. What do you mean? I'm having a great time. But I think she's unironically so funny. She's very funny. Yeah. And she had that, I did see the clip of her,

they had that reunion, and she's kind of praising Abby Lee Miller, saying she was right. And all the other dancers are just like, what the fuck are you talking about? Oh boy. But I'm like, I think JoJo Siwa probably could,

has potential to be the next Abby Lee Miller, maybe with less crime. Maybe with less crime. I don't know. Abby Lee Miller has her own power to her. Like, land Ursula is the greatest, greatest comparison I've ever heard in my entire life. Yeah, she is. Like, that's what it is.

And you can't, I don't think JoJo Siwa could ever be an Ursula. No. Ever. Yeah. It reminds me, thinking of Abby Lee Miller, I play a game sometimes with Courtney because Courtney watches RuPaul's Drag Race. Yes. And so when I'm watching it,

I'll kind of come in and out. I'll watch parts of it, but they do the Snatch Game. Yes, the impersonations. And it's all about, and a game I like to play with Courtney is I like to try to guess who are drag icons. And I like trying to figure out what makes a drag icon.

Because it's not necessarily, it's like there's a lot of women who are like, that's a powerful, high achieving, incredible, kind woman. And then there's some that are like, oh, but that person's a piece of shit, but they're a drag icon because they're hilarious. And I'm like, so I'm always trying to guess. And I would assume is Abby Lee Miller

is absolutely gotta be. 100%. Well, she is a drag. She would tease her hair like this fucking tall. She would wear costume jewelry that was like five oranges taped together. It's like crazy.

Fuck. She was a drag. She like is a drag queen. She's not real. She's not real. That not real she's not real that's so awesome holy shit that's really funny

I'm trying to think of anyone from reality television who I think is like cause like I watch Love is Blind when that's around um Vanessa Lachey

Vanessa Lachey I you I hate when you do the you hate her so much who's gonna have another baby

and Nick's just there like yeah yeah okay Who's going to have another baby? And Nick's just there like, yeah. Yeah, okay, honey. Who's going to have another? Like, I think maybe Nick Lachey actually died, and then they made a clone version of him, and he has not aged. He has not changed. And he just goes, yes, honey, that sounds good.

And she goes, yeah. She just slaps him in the middle of the night. Like, she, not a lot of people drive me crazy. She makes me so angry. As a reality host. Can I ask, do you like that or do you hate that? Do you enjoy this anger that she gives you? Like, because this is the thing.

Because there are worse people than Vanessa Lachey by a mile who are entertaining. But you're saying Vanessa Lachey does she not. Like Denise Richards sometimes on Real Housewives, I'm like, oh my God, she makes me so angry. But like, not really. I kind of can't stop watching. You want to keep watching. No, Vanessa Lachey, I like would love to just never see her ever again in my life. I would be psyched.

And I think this in my life. I would be psyched. And I think this is my therapy. That's what I mean of why I think reality TV is actually really hard to nail. It is. We talk about reality TV stars. You're just a reality TV star. I'm like, that's a hard job. It's a hard job to do it right. You can just go and do it.

Exactly. And I just think that she was given this thing and they didn't like, they didn't do like a full background check on like, like, hey. Well, she just had all the power. You're okay with single people, right? And she's like, yeah, I'm okay with single people. But she despises anyone who's not married. And like, I, I just can't stand when she is a host.

I think she's extremely biased. She, oh my God. I just can't stand when she is a host I think she's extremely biased Oh my god Every single reunion I'm like She has to be doing this on purpose Where she purposefully like gives the Benefit of the doubt to the worst people In the cast And then picks a random like

Nobody's innocent in Love is Blind Every season everyone's kind of a piece of shit usually But she'll always just pick one person And just be like I fucking hate you. And I'm going for you. And it's like, why did you pick them? Meanwhile, someone else who tried to murder someone or lied the whole season, she's just like, we're all here for you. And I hope you're feeling good.

And I hope you're doing better. And it's just like, what the fuck is going on? And she's all, what I can't stand is she's perfectly done up at any time in Love is Blind. Like when they're doing their wedding gestures, she comes in, she's like, are we so excited for the wedding? And she's like all done up. It's all a performance.

And so I can't stand when she sits there with like her back perfectly right, her hand gripping Nick's hand. Because he's, well, he's dead. He can't feel it. No, she's pressing the buttons on his wrist. And he's going like this. Yeah, that's great, honey. Yeah, that's great, honey.

Yeah, that's great, honey. Yeah, exactly. I want more kids, honey. I want more kids, honey. And I just, I can't stand that she's like all done up. And she's a beautiful woman. She really is. But she just spews venom.

My theory on Vanessa Lachey is I just think she is trying really, I think she's trying really hard to be like a Wendy Williams, or to be like some of these hosts who spice things up and aren't afraid to cause controversy. But I don't think she's doing it right, because I don't think she's like that in person. That's my theory.

I think she gets on there, she's like, I gotta be this like, intense, insane, like, She's like, devil's advocate, and I'm like, no, stop.

It's like, you're just doing it wrong. But that shows how hard it is to do. I think so. I just don't, like, I think Abby Lee Miller and Wendy Williams

naturally have this like, fuck y'all. Like, I don't care. I'm gonna do my own thing regardless of what you say. And I feel like Vanessa Lachey is really putting on skin. Like, she's picking up different skin.

And when she's home, she's like. You know what she needs to do? She needs to pull a Wendy Williams. Next time they do the reunion, she's hosting it. She's saying her shit. But then she just needs to cough and fart. And then it's all good. God, she would never.

She would never let that happen, Shane. I also, what I think is great about Wendy Williams and Abby Lee Miller is that they're like, I am fucking gonna destroy you. And they admit it, whereas Vanessa Lachey is like, I'm a good person, and I love you. That's fair. When people don't own up to their shit,

they'll never exist as a fucking icon. It's true. You have to own your shit. You have to own your shit. And my God. I love how much you hate her. I know, it's bad. Angela tried to watch the reunion with me

and she was like, I can't do this. Because of you? She's like, you just really, really are struggling. She turns over and you're just like, raking your arm, rests on your chair. Anyways. Do you talk shit at the TV

when you're watching it? Oh, yeah. Big time. Oh, big time. I'm like, leave her alone. Remember that fucking video where the guy's like,

leave Brittany alone. Yes. That's me. To Vanessa Lachey. No, to anyone else who's not Vanessa Lachey. Vanessa Lachey. Yep. That's really funny. Prettycker. To Vanessa Lachey. No, to anyone else who's not Vanessa Lachey. To anyone but Vanessa Lachey. Yep.

That's really funny. Pretty much. Man. Wow. That's crazy. That's my journey. Okay, so Abby Lee Miller, JoJo Siwa, Vanessa Lachey. What do you got?

I love these icons. Can I be honest? You guys are going to be like, okay, I'm obsessed with Barefoot Contessa. I know that. Ina Garten? I love Ina Garten. Is it Garden or Gart? Garden. Garten. Is I know that. Ina Garten? I love Ina Garten. Is it Garden or Garten? Garten.

Garten. Is that her name? Ina Garten? I think it's Ina Garten. Ina Garten? Ina Garten. I love her. She's got her gay friend.

I love her so much. And someone on Instagram does impersonations. I know. He is so amazing. I love it. Me and my sister send his impersonations back and forth. He goes, oh, it's Fourth of July, and I'm making my Cosmopolitan, and it's this huge fucking martini cup, and then this guy comes around.

It's like, Jeffrey, get out of here, her husband, who always eats her food. Have you ever seen Barefoot Contessa? I know of Barefoot Contessa, and I think my mom loves Barefoot Contessa. Dude, to me, she is a fucking... She's been around forever, right? She's an icon and I listened to her on Wiser Than Me, the Julia Louis Dreyfus podcast, and she knows herself. She is like...

says what she needs. She's like, oh, I didn't want kids. Of course not. Why would I want that? And Jeffrey was like, okay. And like, she wears the same button-down and she had Talbots make these button downs in like a hundred different colors and different fabrics for her.

That's, yes. See, that's iconic. Exactly. Right. To me, she is iconic. Is Barefoot Contessa a drag icon? I don't feel like I've heard of her.

I don't think drag icon. I don't think she's a drag icon only because she's, her mannerisms and like outward performance is very like tame and lovely. Yes, yes, yes. You gotta be big. You gotta be like big. You gotta be like.

Yeah, but she's a little icon to me. Yes. In my head. Yeah. Yeah. There's a guy that I miss. He was on TikTok and he disappeared off of TikTok. I think I found him on Instagram recently.

You showed me him, right? Yeah, this is Tommy Recommendation Hour. On TikTok, he was getting fit with Lee Howard. And he's this 58-year-old sun-baked white guy

who wears a bandana instead of hair. Um, cause he's like balding and he's like really slim and he wears these like really tight leggings and it's like all about his like freaky bulge and like his like plump old man ass. And so he, it's okay. So basically it starts and he's like, Oh, let me see if I can get his voice. Cause it's really scary. Yeah so he, it's, okay. So basically it starts and he's like,

oh, let me see if I can get his voice. Cause it's really scary. Yeah, you got it. He's got, he's like trying to speak gentle, but there's all of this anger in the background.

And it's so fascinating. Cause he'll be like, hold on, let me see. He's like, Hey, welcome to the party. How are you today?

I feel like sunshine. And then it'll cut to him fast forward dancing. And it'll be like. And then it'll flip around and then he'll take the phone and show his crotch and show his ass. And then he'll be on a bicycle. And then it'll cut. It's just like manic anger in an old man. It's not a joke.

No. He's being for real. Yes. That's incredible. He's, I really, like, there was a minute there where I was like, I need to take two months off of Smosh, get a documentary crew, find this man, and interview him. But he deleted his. He deleted his TikTok. What? He deleted his TikTok.

Is he anywhere else? He's on Instagram. He's in the mountains. He also makes music, and it's not bad. Whoa. I don't know. Whoa, really? Yes. He also makes music, and it's not bad. Whoa. I don't know. Whoa, really? Yes.

He plays, I mean, it's all. Oh, boy. That's incredible. He feels like he went to Woodstock, and he's like, ah. And he's got a lot of. He did the Ron drugs at Woodstock. Yeah. That's what he did.

Yeah. He's really angry, but he wants everyone to experience nature. Why isn't everyone dancing? Yes. Yes. It's like, ah, calm down. Your For You page is the most incredible For You page I've ever seen. Thank you. Tommy will send me TikToks sometimes or just show me, and you find TikToks that'll have

like four likes. That's right. And it is somehow so funny. Yeah. It's just an old person doing a filter. Yeah. And you showed us one a second ago. It was like this old lady and it just like going through these filters and it just says,

you will never find love. I know. And then she's just there just like. I know. It's so good. And Tommy, Tommy introduces me to so many amazing things. You introduced me to, what was it called? Palm.

Class of Palm Beach. It's this woman that goes around Palm Beach County, which is where I'm from uh there's so palm beach county there's the rich part and then there's like the retirement like not rich part and that's where i grew up which is why i was like i gotta get out here um so much death um uh so class of palm beach is basically this woman who you never see she's always you hear her voice she's recording. She finds these old people that are dressed up all the way, like Gucci, all the brand names. And they always have the weirdest plastic surgery face, or they're decrepit, or they have their husband who's like, no, no, don't film me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays golf all day, and they just get dressed all day.

And they walk around, and they go home. And they walk around, and they go home. And it's very that Florida colors, like bright pink, like kind of a bright blue or like a neon green. And they're done up, and this woman interviews them. She goes, what are you wearing? Well, I'm wearing Gucci top, and then I've got these pants. These are from River Mouse. Yep.

And my shoes, well, you don't want to know how old those are. Yep. And then it's like, you should come to my house. It's always like, whoa. And they're done up so intensely. They're like, yeah, well, this is a Prada. And they're just the plastic surgery. Their eyes are like gleaming.

Nothing is moving in their body. And they're on the street. And they're kind of like ready to go somewhere. But they're stuck there. And they're literally done up. Like they're going to a fucking party. Yep. They're the best.

It's one of the greatest TikToks ever. It's just like a great visual character study. You know? You're like, wow, look at these rich old your tiktok feed is almost entirely old people is there anyone under 50 on your yes yes i i have i have plenty of like medium age people um since doing more tiktok stuff for smosh my for you page is shifting to more regular things, which is a tragedy. But it's worth it to know what actually is, because it's like, when I made us do that one inside meme

about the Chinese trading company or whatever, and it flopped, I'm like, right, because I'm doing something that's based on my For You page. I got served a couple of those. Yeah? Okay.

Yeah, that had high views. So I don't know. The problem is there's so much. Right. There's so much of it. And I don't know what people who we are on their feed, what they're getting. I recently, my favorite TikToker, I would say he's my favorite, like just as a person, recently reappeared back on my TikTok feed after a while.

His name is Dr. Parkinstein. And so he's this guy. He's fucking awesome. He's this guy who's just his, he's just living his life, doing his thing, but he's obsessed with anything from the 20s or before. And so his entire- Wait a second.

Is it a guy that sounds like this? Yes. Oh my God, he's awesome. And I recently got served, like he did like a tour of his apartment. And he literally starts off, he's just like, hey, it's Dr. Parkenstein again. And so this is, first off, this is my car. And he has, like, just a Model T.

He's just like, this is what I drive all the time. And it's, like, the coolest car you've ever seen. And he goes into his apartment, and it's just, you're in the 20s. And everything, he's got, like, one of those old, like, players, like before, like just a standard vinyl player. Like this is like old, old.

This is like gramophone. And it's playing some stuff just like, hello my darling, I love it. And like, whatever. And then like,

he's just showing off his place and it's all old. And he's, but he like, also does crazy experiments where he makes like, he's like, today I'm making a Tesla

superconductor and he's got like, electricity going all over the place. Sounds like Kermit makes like, he's like, today I'm making a Tesla superconductor, and he's got electricity going all over the place. Sounds like Kermit the Frog. He's truly like one of these days, it's like, this is either going to be the guy who kills Superman, or he's gonna be the guy who saves the world. He's gonna find a new energy source or something.

But he's truly just loving his thing. Just a guy. He just loves doing his shit. He's obsessed with what he's obsessed with, and it's very cool and wholesome. And I just, I love, every time he comes up on my feet, I'm like, what are you doing now? What cool old thing are you showing off?

It's the best. No, he's incredible. I love the people who don't try too hard. They just grab their phone. They go, this is what makes me happy, and I'm going to show you. Do you think that they think about getting views? too hard they just grab their phone they go this is what makes me happy and i'm gonna show you do you think that they think about getting views or do they i don't think this guy this guy does not care about getting views this guy does not care about i i this guy truly in my mind no ego is this my hope this is what i this is what i hope this is

what i picture when i team this is this guy in my head, no ego he's just like, oh this is my purpose is to create like and to cherish things from this era and to reconstruct them and to try to build things and he's done some crazy stuff over the years that's really cool but he's

just doing it for fun, I think he just likes to share it I don't think he's trying to be a influencer, I think he's just sharing this. But then you think about he's posting on TikTok. He's edited his own videos on TikTok. So he's not. You're killing Chase's magic. No, it's one of those things where your idea of an influencer is always your idea of an influencer.

That's why it's so heartbreaking when something comes out. I've luckily not had any influencer that I love have a bad thing come out about them. But I imagine it's gotta be devastating if you're a huge fan, and it's like, oh yeah, they actually commit horrible crimes, or they have these horrible beliefs. It's like, oh, my idea of you is wrong.

It's gotta suck. I understand why people stop watching, because you're just like, well, my version of you is wrong. Like, it's got to suck. I understand why people stop watching, because you're just like, well, my version of this is gone, so I can't do this anymore. Oh, yeah. I was going to also say, though, because you mentioned the workout guy,

my feed, there's two that are incredible. There's a guy that is real, a real guy, and his name is El Campeon. And I don't know if, I don't think, this has got to be only on my feed. So this is on the most insane parts of like weightlifting TikTok.

And he's this guy, he's very not like, he's not out of shape, but he's just like not buff necessarily. He's a guy. He's a guy. He's a normal looking guy, but he goes to the gym. He goes to different gyms.

He wears full on work boots but with this skin tight workout clothing, the rest of it. He's always got three belts on, like those weight lifting belts. He puts on three of them. And he does it because he says it's motivational and he's doing

it for God, whatever. But he always goes up to any machine or any lift and he puts on the most weight you possibly can. So he'll go up to one of those machine chest presses where you put the plates on. He fills it up entirely with all the plates, and then he'll put bands around it and put more plates on it. And he'll be doing this for God, and he sits down. And then he doesn't actually do the lift. He can't do it. He'll just be like, doing this for God, and he sits down. And then, like, doesn't actually do the lift. He can't do it. He'll just be like, dead, dead, and then he'll be like,

and then he does a squat with all of them, which, mind you. He's going to die. Oh, yeah. He's going to crunch in half. The jokes, the comments are always like, I see it's spine day again. Oh, my God. And then he'll go up, and he'll have all these weights on the jokes, the comments are always like, I see it's spine day again. Or like, that's, but, and then he'll go up, and he'll have, like, all these weights on the squat, and then he'll just, like, sort of lift it,

like, just, just, just be like, gah! Is he at least on those, the ones that, like, that has, like, the safety railing? No, it's free, it's a free open rack. I can't. No, no, no, no, no. He could possibly die at any moment. What is wrong with this man? Well, he's doing it for God.

Oh, it's for God. The term that I'm sure, the term is called ego lifting, when you're just lifting weights that you can't actually do. But there's another guy that I've seen a couple times. I don't know this guy's name, but he's this old dude. He's always got a bandana and old school CD player in. And for some reason, it's always leg raise. And he'll be about to get on this machine,

but he'll just get himself fucking amped. Like so amped, he starts yelling. And he'll just be like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. And he's like hitting himself. He's just like, ah. And then he'll get on the leg raise

and he'll just be doing it, but so fast and crazy and he's yelling while he's doing it. It's awesome. He'll be like, ah, ah, ah, ah! It's insane. They watched Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary once. They're like, yeah!

Sounds good. Oh my god, what the hell? It is fucking awesome, no. The weightlifting TikTok is weird. I'm finally getting away from weightlifting TikTok. It got really bad for a while and I was like, why is this all of my feed? And now that stuff happened and I'm like, alright.

I'm full. I kind of like that. I feel like my feed is all like, are you feeling tired? Are you feeling sick? You have high cortisol levels, babe. Like, here's the powder to get you down. It's all like, are you a middle-aged woman with that

belly? We're gonna get cortisol. And I'm like, damn it! It's all like, are you a middle-aged woman with that belly? We're going to get cortisol. And I'm like, damn it. And it's like, hey guys, like honestly, ladies, we've got to bring our nerves down,

our nervous system down, put your head in ice water and we've got to do this awesome drink. Say awesome drink in my comments and I'll give you my awesome drink.

And one time I was like, okay, awesome drink. No way. Yeah, well that's what your feet is that way. And it's just water, ginger, lemon. I was like, okay, awesome drink. No way. Yeah, well, that's what your feed is anyway. And it's just water, ginger, lemon. I'm like, bitch, please.

That's like heavily my feed is like, babe, don't worry about it. Well, you're watching it. Yeah, of course. I'm watching the whole thing. That's why it's on your feed. Well, I also probably have high cortisol levels. So I need, here's the thing. They all tell me that I have high cortisol levels. I have still not figured out how to bring down high cortisol levels. So I need, here's the thing. They all tell me that I have high cortisol levels.

I have still not figured out how to bring down my cortisol levels. So I'm like, oh, okay, magnesium. That's kind of like my thing of like, babe, we've got you. Are you tired? Are you bubbly? I'm like, these are like old school commercials, but they're all over my feed. And then my other feed is like these old, I just showed Tom before we got here, is like this old rocker woman. Oh, she's the best.

She's called A Good Witch. I know. Have you seen her? Oh, I saw that. She's like, okay, ladies, the best thing to do is to live. And she's got this like witch hat and she does these like Stevie Nicks wannabe like witchy dances and then pulls tarot. And I was like, I mean, I love her so much. Do I want to get my cards pulled by her?

I don't know. But it's like got to fuck everything in your path. But like she's just amazing. So I'm getting all these like very like woman woman centric instagrams and then like you know i also get like fave tiktoks 420 which is like all the cringiest tiktoks compiled into one i don't know who runs it actually ian showed it to me i don't know who runs it but it is all these young boys who have this like cute little haircut who come up to the camera very close and it's all these voiceovers who are like, did he hurt you?

Let me save you. Jesus Christ. I'll save you. And it's them looking in the camera with a tear. And it's like fuck boy music but they're like I'll save you. Get away from him. It's like Edward from Twilight but like

Gen Z boy haircuts. Do you know what I'm saying? And it's like it's like edward from twilight but like like gen z boy haircuts do you know what i'm saying and it's all on these yeah it's like it's pushed forward and it's all like it's pushed forward it's almost like a mushroom top but it's pushed forward yeah and they're all like babe let me save you and it's just the cringiest tiktoks in one so that's my feed and it's really really fun that's funny a good witch is incredible she's incredible now if if someone's over the age of 60 and they're on tiktok they are successful they're incredible like nobody uses nobody uses tiktok quite as well as old people i know so why do we keep trying at it i don't't know. Okay. Well, that's why you look at my TikTok, and I haven't posted in like six

months, is because I'm like thinking about comedy and not just like staring at it from like three feet above it. But your feed, yeah, but your feed is so good, Tommy. Your feed is my favorite feed on this planet. There's this woman named Brianna, or Brianna? Brianna? And on, what

she'll have on the screen a list of, it'll be like, hi, my name is Brianna. This is me picking up an apple, taking a bite of an apple, chewing the apple, swallowing the apple, then setting the apple back down. That's what's written on the screen. And then she looks at the camera like...

And then she goes and that's the TikTok it's like it's like every single one she's listed out how many views does that get there

there some are there are some that did pop off but then there's some that are just her that's just awesome I just like

where in her head did she think like I gotta write out the plan. I don't know. The full storyboard and then do it. I don't know, but it's awesome. And then end it. That's great.

See, that's the thing is that they are like, this is great. It's like iconic. Yes. They're iconic. TikTok shows off the way people think in the ways that you don't think. I'm like, I would never think to write out what I'm doing on camera. It is so true that you just see some people and you're like, where did you, how did you come to this?

And especially knowing like you're not even, this isn't your job. You're not an entertainer. You're a person. You're the best though. You're a real person doing real things, but you decided in your time to do this. It's so unbelievable. It's some of the funniest things for me to watch.

Because you can always tell when a TikTok is trying really, really hard. And you're just like, yeah. Maybe it's just too close to our industry. There are some people who crush it. There are some comedians who like absolutely crush it. I think when you're trying too hard, it just like comes across as you're trying too hard. I think TikTok was at its best, frankly, in the middle of the pandemic because people were just at home losing their minds. And so TikToks were just the most unhinged, the most unfiltered they ever were.

Like there was nothing showy. Because it was impossible to do anything showy at the time. Cause everyone was inside their homes. And it was just, it was when I was most into Tik TOK. I was obsessed with it at the time. It's when I was most inspired to actually like use it. Cause I was like,

this is so funny. But nowadays we're back to kind of like, there's a lot of just like, all right, it's back to like pretty people. Right. Doing pretty things. You kind of reminded me that like with, with the, us all being quarantined that you know how like sourdough

bread was like a big trend there i'm also getting served all these sourdough girlies that'll go that'll go hey um i thought i was a sourdough girly so i decided to record myself making sourdough. And here's the final product. And it got to them looking horrible, like grunting, like making the sourdough, being like, and they like had the camera set up. And they're like, yeah, I thought I was gonna become a sourdough girlie and make all these awesome bread making videos, but I look insane.

I'm tired. That makes me think of, because I've seen people talk a lot about that one TikToker that, I think she's Mormon, the girl who's always making a dessert for her husband. Whatever. Wait, the cakes? Maya or whatever.

The cakes? She'll make- Not just cakes. She'll dress up as Sleeping Beauty and make the Sleeping Beauty cake? I think we have a- I'm like, what? It's a different person.

No, this one's very like trad wife, like traditional wife. Her. Yeah, where she's like, my husband wanted this, so I'm making rice krispies from like fucking scratch, where it's like you're even making the like krispies. I think we're talking about the same person. And it's just like, she has like short hair. Oh, no, no, no.

But it's just like all very delicate and all very like whatever. And she's got a full face of makeup and stuff. But I'm like, look, I've made bread a couple times. It's impossible to look good while you're doing it. Oh. You are sweating. You feel like shit. Cut to them being like –

Like that's these videos. And so I guess I'm being served something similar but it's a woman who dresses like a Disney princess and she's like I can't wait for my husband to come home and find me baking and she made the sleeping beauty cake

you know the cake that's like dripping over with a broom through it and there's all these little candles and she's all done up and she's like I can't wait for him to like it. And it's the whole video of her making it full makeup, full dress. There's a part of the internet that's also kind of going a little bit backwards.

Oh, for sure. The trad wife thing is crazy. Yeah. No, there's parts of the internet that are fully going back to, they think they're going back to the 50s, they're going to some bastardized, crazy version. Some insane.

A bizarro land. Yeah. No, it's very real. I don't know how it happened, but it's weird. I don't like it at all. No. So all those I go, not interested. I've seen people talk about how their idea of a trad wife

isn't even really, because it's like, what are you doing? What do you mean? This is strange. Yeah, do you think he really, because it's like, what are you doing? What do you mean? This is strange. Yeah, do you think he comes home and he's like, yay, are you feeling okay? Are you going to murder me? He comes home in a full suit with a briefcase, and he's like, where's the whiskey?

Yeah, so insane. Holy shit. I would love to, if possible, just go through my recommendations of crazy character people yes please okay um first and this is for you at home uh and uh you listening uh good morning i'm assuming nice um so there is do you remember i think i showed you i don't know if i've shown you uh icy spicy leonci um she has a song called Gay World. Yes, I've seen it.

Yes, she is a oddly shaped woman from Iceland and she sings songs on her YouTube and they're all kind of bad but they're great. So good. Everywhere you look you see a gay

boy, gay girl. Anyway, hey girl! So good. So she actually created gay pop? She's, yes. Yes. She, gay girl. Anyway, hey girl! She actually created gay pop. Yes, she did. Not Jojo Siwa. She's incredible along with Lisa Gale. Lisa Gale you can find on YouTube. Lisa Gale is a,

I'm pretty sure a teacher, I'm going to guess. She has blonde hair. You've seen her, Lisa Gale. She has a song called Three Second Rule, which is about how her husband can look at another woman for three seconds, but no longer. That's a long amount of time for like, my husband can look at like, three whole seconds.

Well, see the music video. Watch the music video, because it's definitely filmed in the school that she works at. Yep. And she hired a bunch of guys to do harmonies, and it's really bad. And then my other two recommendations.

You've probably seen her on TikTok. Her name is Harmony, I think. She has really intense, like blocky makeup. And she's the one who goes, who likes Krispy Kreme donuts? Or no, she says Kripi, Krispy Kreme? I don't know. She's like, who likes Krispy Kreme donuts? And then she takes a bite.

Anyway, she's awesome, if you can find her on TikTok. Very entertaining, I think something's wrong, but she's awesome. She's the best. And then my big, big recommendation is such a fascinating person. He goes by Tonetta. I don't know what his actual name is.

There's a YouTube documentary of him where someone did something, which was the inspiration of the thing earlier. He made a sculpture out of his own shit. He's kind of a lunatic, but he made this song, multiple songs, that are, some are on YouTube, some are documented. He also has an album on SoundCloud that's really good. He makes really good, but it's like, one of his songs is like,

I'm gonna tickle your ass with my tongue. It's like really like, and it's all like, loo-lee-loo kind of music, but it's all like raunchy and very odd. And he, oh my God, in this music video, I'll call it, he's like got just like a bikini bottom on and he's painted himself completely white. And he has like a doll mask on.

And he's like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, like dancing. It's the most gut-wrenching, shocking imagery to this really delightful song. It's very true artist, but it's also like

only someone unhinged can arrive at that conclusion. Correct. Anyway, I highly recommend those people. I feel like it's like back in the day artists. I need to check that out. Do you know what I mean?

That are still like doing their art. Yes. That's awesome. And I think that all ties back in with like people doing themselves regardless of what

anyone else has to say. Iconic. Make someone a weird icon. It sounds strange to say because of where we are at, but I do think the greatest creators always are like,

they're more niche. They're smaller. You know, it's the ones with under like 50,000 followers or something. They're always going to be actually the ones

who are making the craziest. They just don't apologize. Yeah. But they're so committed to their very specific thing that it's hard to get a're so committed to their very specific thing that they're it's hard to get a big audience such a very specific thing

yeah but they're perfect the tragedy of art the tragedy of art they're the truest artists out there you have to have a soul and we're back to Stella

how's your soul gonna act gotta be an artist gotta be an artist get over here. Anyways. Shane, you wanna take us out? Yeah, sure.

Last thing I was gonna say. Speaking of just gay pop, because I think this will fit. I'm still listening to music. And I listen... Guys, I listened to an album all the way through recently whoa what and I think it was my favorite album that I've listened to whoa this year so far what was it by the time

this comes out probably still will be hello uh it was Chapel Roan's album nice that shit was so good I have not heard it it was sick as hell dude oh yeah damn really good I think it just it fit a lot of vibes because I love like like, 80s music. Yes. Yeah. So, like, it was just kind of like, when I heard someone describe,

like, oh yeah, she's got this, like, 80s synth thing going on, I was like, well, I'll check it out. And then I was like, this is really dope. I'll check it out.

They're really good songs. Chapel Rones? Okay. Yep. Yeah. Done and done. Really, really dope. But that one,

that one rocked. That's awesome. What's next on your list? Good job. I don't know. So, that one rocked. That's awesome. What's next on your list? Good job. I don't know. So I have a couple. For the longest time, it was kind of like,

oh, should I finally listen to Taylor Swift's album? I don't know. I'm getting a lot of suggestions. I was thinking for a while of maybe listening to Kendrick Lamar's music again, but I have listened

to Kendrick Lamar's music a lot. Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of anything. I'm just kind of picking random albums here and there. So I'll find something. I can't wait to hear what you find. I'm going to listen to Chapel Roan.

There you go. You have it ready to go on your Spotify. I have it ready to go on my Spotify, because if I don't, I'll forget. Tommy, thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. I love talking about my people that I love. I love it.

And I think we tied a lot of it back to Abby Lee Miller. As we did. Icon. Yep. As she would have wanted us to. My favorite place to visit, the human zoo. Is Harambe there? Okay.

Nice. Bye, guys. See you later. is Harambe there? okay nice bye guys see you later love you