Smosh Mouth - #49 - Explaining Five Nights At Freddy's Lore To Amanda

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

Shayne, Spencer, and Courtney explain the deep lore of FNAF...but it's just a theory.Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping, at https://meundies.com/smoshmouth! Listeners can save on the perfect gift by visiting https://AuraFrames.com/SMOSH to get $30-off plus free shipping on their best-selling frame! 0:00-3:49 Intro 3:50-6:25 Shayne’s accident 6:26-8:26 Amanda’s SparkNotes of Five Nights at Freddy’s 8:27-48:33 Breaking down the entire FNAF timeline 48:34-1:05:52 FNAF theories SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Courtney Miller // https://www.instagram.com/co_mill/ Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Amanda Lehan-Canto // https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/ Spencer Agnew // https://www.instagram.com/spennser/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Selina Garcia Editor: Luke Baker Producer: Amanda Lehan-Canto, Shayne Topp, Selina Garcia Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar, Josie Bellerby Prop Master: Luke Brau Prop Assistant: Adam Mustafa Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Videographer: James Hull Assistant Director: Marcus Munguia Director of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Coordinator: Marcus Munguia Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Ovsana Tsaturian Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Social Strategist: Erica Noboa, Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia Operations PA: Katie Fink CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Pit: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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two special guests, Spencer and Courtney. Hi. Hey. I'm Spencer. Guys. Courtney. It. I'm Spencer. Guys. Courtney. It's finally the episode. It's been months in the making. Forever ago Spencer and I pranked Amanda to believing that Five Nights at Freddy's was a true story that really happened.

Which maybe there's some truth to that. And then that led to us playing a bunch of the Five Nights at Freddy's games which I dreaded. I hated it. I loved it. Yeah, this ended up being the best thing for Amanda. But throughout all of this, we have not told Amanda what the actual story is,

what's going on. You've been guessing this whole time. I have. But today, we're going to do our best because there's a lot of depth and there's a lot of debate. But we're going to do our best to explain the real story of Five Nights at Freddy's to you.

I want to preface by saying we will because it's just, there's a whole lot there's a lot of different theories and it's all really just a theory. We're probably going to fuck some things up. I know I will. And we know Scott did.

So the comments, there's going to be people who are going to be mad at us. And I'm saying me because I'm probably going to really. They're going to be mad at you, Amanda. No. I can't take that one. But we're going to do our best. We want to just introduce you.

And I will say, like, when we get MatPat someday, he can really clear everything up. But before MatPat, we're going to give you the one. So you guys are going to do your best. We're going to do our best. Courtney made this awesome board. That's so good. Conspiracy board. For the people who are catching up still

on the lore of this situation, why are me and Spencer here? Well, Spencer and Courtney. We got married in the... Courtney, you got super into Five Nights at Freddy's. I feel like roughly around the time when we pranked Amanda. A little bit before. It was when we went to Horror Nights and they had the Blumhouse exhibit.

I've always loved animatronics. And I used to spend hours as a kid Googling robot dinosaur videos because I was like, that's the coolest thing in the world. And then we went to this Blumhouse exhibit at Horror Nights where they had the animatronics on display. And I was just so into it. And, like, I had always loved the Jack Black video where he goes, And I was just like, I love this vibe. I think I need to dive in. And then that's where it all started.

Yeah. Wow. So Courtney, I think, is actually knows far more about the lore than I do. You're invested. I believe that. And I actually think by the end of today, you might know more than me. I have realized every step of the way that I'm like,

I thought I knew what was going on. I realize I don't. And Spencer knows more than all of us probably. Maybe. Yeah, Spencer, talk about this vest that you're wearing and then go into. So last year, Alex and I went to Gen Con, and all the official Gen Con helpers had these fishing vests on.

And I was like, those look cool as hell. And so I've kind of been looking for one for a while, and I finally found one on eBay, and so I ordered it. It's pretty cool. It's excellent. So does this help you tell the lore? Yeah, well, you know, I kind of wanted to go all in and dress like a full-on conspiracy theorist, like with a bucket hat and stuff. Yes.? Yeah. Well, you know, I kind of wanted to go all in and dress like a full on conspiracy theorist,

like with like a bucket hat and stuff. Yes. But I was like, you know what? This feels like a good time to debut the vest. I love it. It's pretty awesome. I think it's incredible because all of us are in jean jackets and you're in this vest. Yeah.

We actually thought you were going to wear a jean jacket with us and then you showed up in this. Yeah. Yeah. How do you guys feel? I feel pretty good. I feel like you have answers. That's how I feel. No. Okay, good. Yeah. That. How do you guys feel? I feel pretty good. I feel like you have answers. That's,

that's how I feel. No. Okay, good. Yeah. That's the, that's the, that's the vibe I wanted to put out.

So is it a, is it a play on words? Like you said, lure, lore, best? No, that actually,

that actually just, that just struck me. That worked out. That's pretty sick. Like a speeding bullet. Wow. Before we get into this, I should,

I should also say, I messed my finger up with a vegetable peeler really bad. And so that's why I have a cast on my fingies. Was it a vegetable peeler or was it Freddy? The cut of 24. It was the cut of 24. No, I truly, the tip of my finger.

No, no, no. I heard it too many times now. I can't hear it again. You chopped your little finger. My finger looks like Frankenstein. It's the tip of it had to be sewn back on. And it's like, it's black thread, like a fricking, like a Tim Burton character.

Oh my God, you're literally Five Nights at Freddy's. Like, look at their faces. They look like they're sewn together. That's you. That's you. You just look. That's you. You're Springtrap.

Okay. Or Foxy. What the fuck? What? So did you hit both fingers? Yeah, the very tip of this one. And then my middle finger is the one that got really messed up. Oh, so you can't flip me off ever.

Well, he can. Now it just looks really silly. Ew. I can't take that serious. I think we're filming stuff on green screen. We're going to have some fun, dude. I'm going to flip people off and it's going to be half my finger. Turns out Kermit the Frog was a finger donor.

Wow. No, it's Shrek. Anyways. No, it's Shrek. Before we start, I'd like us all to go around and say which character we feel the most connected to in Five Nights at Freddy's. Okay. I'll start. Who are you most connected to? Chica. Yeah? Because

I feel like all the other ones were like, whoa, what the hell? And with Chica, it's like, what the hell is going on? Like, I felt like I wanted to know her, you know? Because she really progressed. Well, because the second one is when she's suddenly like. Yeah.

That's Toy Chica, I think. Toy Chica, and then she becomes a woman, and then. Shadow Chica. Shadow Chica. Nightmare Chica. And then, was it Security Breach, where she's like kind of a little not well? Well, yeah, that's not even Chica. That's a whole different.

Those are different ones. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get there. We'll get there. Spencer? Michael Afton because he smells bad. Okay.

Okay. Don't know who that is. You'll find out. You'll find out. Okay. Court? I really. Bonnie's my favorite, but maybe I'm more connected to Foxy.

Ooh. Okay. Foxy Rising. And I'm Balloon Boy. You're Balloon Boy? You're the nightmare? Hello? You're such a nightmare.

Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Okay, let's go. All right. Before we start now, Amanda,

you've been talking about what you think is going on. Yeah. What is your, what are your theories? What do you believe is the story of... Yeah, now that you've played all the games,

what have you gathered? Generally, you don't have to nail every single part. I will give you guys the spark notes. I definitely think there's a fungus going on. Okay. There is an underlayer connecting underneath the pizza parlor, or whatever it's called.

And they're all connected and all the like little souls are connected and they're controlling the animatronics and when one animatronic gets hurt, the other one feels it.

Oh. And then when they were at, what's the house one? What's the, what is it, four? So, when they were there, the animatronics

lured the kids to this house to have like a pizza hangout, and they trapped them there. And they had to do it, they have to have some type of charismatic powers to make the parents just be like, yeah, sure, take my kid. Interesting. And I think it's like they're all working together because they're all fungus underneath. Okay. They're all working together because they're all fungus underneath. Okay. They're all connected. Well, you're wrong about some stuff, but honestly, Amanda, there's a lot of stuff you're going to be like, wow, I wasn't far off.

Really? I think. Okay. What you just said, no. Yeah. That's a different franchise. Incredible. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Billy, what you just said. Fine. But you did correctly. I. Billy, what you just said. Fine. But you did correctly one-to-one do the plot of Resident Evil 7, which was actually incredible. That's the plot of Resident Evil 7. Yep. Guess you have to play that.

Which we'll be playing. You're gonna love that game. Wait, that's fucking awesome. Yeah, a lot of fungus. Is it scarier than... So much fungus. It's different. It's a different kind of scene. Wait, that's fucking awesome. Yeah, a lot of fungus. Is it scarier than? So much fungus. It's different. It's a different kind of scary.

I love fungus in the really positive way, but also to think of it as a scary way is cool. Oh, yeah. You like a fun guy. Yeah, I like a fun guy. Yeah, totally. Okay, let's begin then with this. Let's start off with the first game, Five Nights at Freddy's. Okay.

So you're a security guard, you're working at a pizza place. Michael Schmidt. Mike Schmidt. Mike Schmidt. Nice. Good memory. Not Michael, Mike.

Now, something that, there was a lot of lore that we probably didn't pick up on because we were talking whenever the phone calls came in. Yeah, we talked the whole time. We were like, how do we play? But in that one,

he talks about a bite that happens. That I believe, yeah, it's Five Nights at Freddy's 1 that he's talking about. He talks about the bite of 87. Yes. Which is different from the bite of 83. There's two different bites. But you only at this point learned about the bite of 87. Bite of 87.

Okay. Now, the bite of 87, as far as we know, there's not a ton of details on it. But we know that a guest was bitten by one of the animatronics. So let me stop you right there. Okay. Whoa. So I actually downloaded all this right before. Great.

So do you want to start in chronological order? Yes. Do you want to start at the beginning? Yes. Okay. So in the beginning, there are these two guys. One is William Afton. Wait.

Hold on. Stop, stop, stop. Do we really want to go through the entire... I think I can speed us through and get us to the games pretty quickly. Okay. So there's William Afton. Okay. And he is an Imagineer type guy. There's William

Afton and then there's Henry Emily and they're business partners. What a name. Yeah. So they're business partners and they're business partners and we want to make Yeah. So they're business partners and like we want to make Freddy Fazbear's whatever pizzeria. Okay. There's like a million different

like Freddy Fazbear's. Yeah, because first of all even you're wrong there because they both had their own and then they kind of started working together. Oh, yeah. They had Freddy,

like it's like Freddy's Diner or some shit like that. Yeah. Fred Bear's Family Diner. Yeah. So the two of them. No, the animatronics, they were like normal. They were suits at first.

Or they're suits, but it was nothing crazy. So there were people in the suits. Well, so William's claim to fame is he invented the Springlock suit, which is a, it's essentially an animatronic. So it's on stage, it's doing its fucking thing. And then if you like press this button or whatever on the back, it kind of flips open. Oh, yeah. And that's what you've been seeing.

And then you could get into it and then move it around. So it's like an animatronic slash suit. That's like his. A little bit of both. That's his technology. I would never get in that suit. Exactly. And they're apparently very dangerous because the lock mechanisms could fuck up.

And then the person inside would get skewered by the suit. And then so that was, like, kind like claim to fame and you know they had their thing where you know like the it was like a chuck of cheese basically yeah and then uh that's when things started to go wrong uh-oh someone got in the suit and that's the bite of 87 kind of so first he had the bite of 83 so he had three kids william did william afton had three kids. Of his three kids, one of them, the youngest one, who you play in Five Nights at Freddy's for, when you're the little kid running around, he is deathly afraid

of the animatronics. Oh, the one who... Because he saw something. I think his name is Evan. So Evan's like the little kid. I never saw his name. How'd you find out his name? It's in one of the books, I guess. There's books? Okay, this is why I was nervous about going in chronological order,

because I think it might be a lot harder to download to Amanda's mind. But, like, the lore is basically, Amanda, the lore is so big, and the creator got so deep and entangled in his own lore that there's literally books. There's, like toy journals that have clues and Easter eggs are in every piece of his merchandise about this entire franchise. And so it's like there's a lot.

And it's really, at a certain point, it's a lot of guessing. He's actually texting me lore right now. Whoa. Scott Cawthorn. He also had a habit like people had like it became a game for people who played the games to find hidden easter eggs in these video games basically where if you had you had to turn up the brightness on a certain frame

in the video game then you'd find like a secret word or stuff like that like our code that's why the lore is literally is That's why people are so obsessed with this, is because it's a lot, it's like controversial because there's so many secrets and so many missed things, and there's the biggest way that you learn the lore of these stories is in those

minigames where it's the 8-bit stuff. That's where you learn most of the story. And sometimes you don't even get all of those when you play through and sometimes you have to play it a certain way in order to get a certain cut scene that will tell you something very dark and very like failing it or winning yeah so we didn't get everything but we got a lot of good stuff so so in four you're the little kid and you're running around and those are basically his nightmares like he is having nightmares the kid

evan evan afton i think is his name again we just jumped we just jumped really far well yeah so he's he's running around he's having all these nightmares and stuff like that and then like you know how like you do the mini game and you're kind of walking through and then you see the the foxy mask pop out that's your older brother michael afton so that is the older brother and he knows he knows that you evan afton are really afraid of the animatronic so he's kind of scaring you and then it kind of culminates in a prank uh where william afton i think you guys saw this and it's where william afton no sorry michael afton it gets really confusing michael afton all his buddies they take evan afton and they're all at the p Afton and all his buddies, they take Evan Afton,

and they're all at the pizzeria, and they're like, ha-ha, like, hey, like, stick your head in the machine. Stick your head in Freddy Fazbear or whatever fucking thing. And then the machine snaps. Well, not yet.

In the cutscene, the kids put his head in. Yeah, so, like, their prank is like, ha-ha, we're gonna stick you in the animatronic. The animatronic snaps and essentially kills one of the sons the son so one of these sons it's a cain and abel situation kills the other son uh well he technically puts him in a coma or whatever and like the fifth night is like you in a coma but yeah so you the player of the fourth game are killed basically at the end by the other son are killed basically at the end by the other son.

Are you sure about that? Yeah. By the other son. So there's three sons. There's, there's two sons and a daughter. We haven't even gotten to the daughter. Yeah.

I feel like Chica. No, no, no, no. She becomes, hold on, hold on,

hold on, hold on. I think we're really getting ahead of ourselves. I really do. This is the first in chronological order of the games. Wow. Four. So one important thing to know.

This is fun. I'm having three people tell me the lore. I know. And there's going to be a lot of arguing because it's all theories from different people. Like you watched a different YouTuber's videos than I did. Yeah. So are we going to have different?

Courtney's an expert on the Matt. I watched all the Matt Pat videos. So I think they're different. we going to have different- Courtney's an expert on the MatPat. I watched all the MatPat videos. So I think they're different. I think they have different theories. Is MatPat 100% correct? Well, there's a lot of controversy because MatPat got so deep into the lore that people argued that Scott, the creator, actually was like, actually, yeah, that is the lore because he got so lost in his own story.

Got it, got it, got it. But one thing that is important also is, yeah, lost in his own story got it but one thing that is important is also is yeah the games are in an order but that's not the story's order there's like this one two three four five sister location whatever not that's not how it all the order of it all happening yeah four takes place first yeah Oh, and four is with the kid and the rock stars. No, that's the last one. Oh, four

is the Texas Chainsaw House. That's the one where you thought the kid was being invited back to this house for the pizza party. But actually, you're playing as one of the children of the creator of Freddy's Animatronics. While they're still alive?

Yeah, he's still alive during the game, and then he is killed, I think, between the fourth and fifth night. Well, and there's controversy because at first the creator said it was all a dream, and then later he said it's actually not, and that there was a lot more to the story. Because there was apparently,

Scott said that, I keep calling him Scott like I know him on a first-name basis. I don't know this man. Don't know his values. That's how my friend talks about Markiplier. It's really funny. She's like, ugh, I'm watching the new Mark video.

I'm like, that's crazy. Weird. But yeah, this kid gets bitten and his dad is devastated and is kind of making sure that he can make his son okay again and that ultimately is what drives him insane. Why are the animatronics at his house in the fourth one? Well, they aren't. Well, they...

Up for debate. It's up for debate there too. But he is the creator of these animatronics. So there are theories that... And you were saying like oh something's connected underneath there's theories that there were there was something connected to him making animatronics and robotics underneath his house that were then tormenting okay it's okay but there's also the thing the original theory of like oh it's all a dream so it's kind of like

it's up for debate but there are theories that that there was stuff that was coming up that the dad was using. In the books, it's like very clear that a factory or a facility is connected to a house. Yeah, that's sister looking. So I think for me, I think that we should go in order, not based on the games, but in order where like the origin story starts and give me which game that correlates to so that was right that was that was four and then so after the kid is bitten but after his brother shoves him in the animatronic and he's bitten that is the bite of 83 that's the first one that's the first bite and that happens at in the fourth game that happens diner but that no no sorry the the fucking the names of all like the pizzerias it's like the diner the pizzeria

the pizza store like it it doesn't frankly make any sense but it's like basically they keep closing and reopening and closing and reopening and it's confusing and i think we should de-emphasize like the names of the... Basically, it happened at one of the pizza places. Know that there are multiple locations of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. Because it was successful, so they opened up new ones. Got it. But sometimes they would close down because of controversies such as that.

Yeah, controversies. There was one location where they had the animatronics. And then there was, for some reason, kids kept getting murdered at this place, so they closed it down, and they opened a new location with those newer, the toy animatronics that you see, supposedly, I think I have that right, and those ones were built with this special predator pedophile detecting security wear in their technology for some reason. But it still just keeps happening

and they don't know why. So the animatronics started killing kids after they bit the creator's son? It was a mistake. Because we haven't gotten to the concept of

possession or like as it happens in the Five Nights at Freddy's universe. So after a child is killed in or around the animatronic, typically they will possess the animatronic. And the first instance. The child's soul will possess the animatronic. And the first instance of this is in the fourth game, which is the first in the chronological order. After the child is bitten, Evan, he kind of takes the, he's in the Fredbear animatronic. And the Fredbear one's confusing.

Oh, I remember that. Because didn't he say, like, climb in me to be safe? That was Security Breach. That's Security Breach. Oh, oh, oh. I wouldn't worry about that game too much. There's Fredbear and there's... Because the game is not good.

No, there's Fredbear and then there's Freddy Fazbear. It's fucking... There's Rockstar Freddy. Golden Freddy. I think we're... Okay, if I can pause for a second. I think we're getting

into a lot of nuances first. I'd rather us focus on William Afton. Yeah. And that story first. And then we can start branching out into the more nuanced things. So yeah, so for, you know, William Afton has two sons and a daughter. The one son accidentally kills the other son.

And this drives William basically crazy. Yep. He's already kind of a crazy guy. He's already a very determined, like think about like, you know, the weird types out there who run big companies. He's obsessed with his craft.

Yeah, he's obsessed with animatronics. Mad scientist. And he wants to make these things. He's also got a fear of death. A lot of people talk about in their theories and a desire to live forever kind of thing.

Now, he starts going crazy after his son's bite. And he has his business partner. When you say bite, is he dead? He's dead. He goes into a coma and then he dies. Yeah. But he has his business partner,

Henry Emily, who he feels a lot of animosity and jealousy towards. Why? Henry Emily had, they had different, they both had like they made animatronics basically henry emily made a different kind and they were like newer and when they had come together they had kind of disputed over which animatronics would be on the stage and

stuff and i think um there's a lot of resentment from william afton and and it was just like they didn't get along very just like they didn't get along very well and they didn't stay working together for very long so which animatronics did henry emily make he made uh so if we're going back further then they did originally start by having their own restaurant types of places yeah and henry emily was known for having uh chica's party world or something like that it was but he had Chica, and he had made... Is he more of the rock star? He made Bonnie. No, no.

Yeah, because William Afton had this one, and they didn't... There was disputing over which Bonnie would be on stage. When they were at the diner, they would be the ones in the costumes. Right, I was wondering that. Yeah, so I think Henry would be Bonnie, and William would be Fredbear.

Yeah. But they came together to make the diner. Okay. And then they eventually opened Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. So they were doing really well. But William Afton starts to lose his fucking mind. Yeah. And he's crazy.

Right. And he becomes kind of a sadistic monster. Okay. And he eventually, I believe, the first, he murders children. The first one he murders is Henry Emily's daughter. Oh. This is after, though, he loses his own daughter. Yeah, but that's too deep.

We'll go back to that later. Oh. Because I wanted to get just to the main five nights first. So he kills Henry Emily's daughter, and now we get into the whole- Family dispute. Yeah, but I don't think Henry Emily knows that William Afton's the one who killed her.

And how does he kill her? He goes into the animatronic? She is outside of a birthday party at one of the establishments. You see this in an 8-bit cutscene. And she is being protected by the puppet. The puppet is someone who Henry Emily makes to basically protect kids from the murderous.

He's the scariest. Yeah. Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure. See, because the theory I read is once she is murdered, William Afton murders her, she then, her ghost, her spirit, possesses the puppet. That is correct.

Do you remember the puppet thing? If you didn't wind the thing up. I remember. And the little kid that came up. Balloon Boy. Balloon Boy. Oh, that was Balloon Boy. So she possesses the puppet.

But then William Afton, and we'll probably dial it back at some point, but William Afton And I'm probably We'll probably dial it back At some point But William Afton then Continues killing kids And it's because he wants To like It's because he keeps Just wanting to bring back

His own kid Basically He wants to learn more About how the possession Stuff works So he's like If I can like So his kid can come back

Even if he's possessed Exactly Because that's I think you have it on there Mad scientist Where he The I will put you back together. That's what he says to his son as his son is like slipping into death from the coma.

And I think there's probably different theories on his reasoning why. But we know for sure that he murders a bunch of kids. Now he murders a bunch of kids. And with the help of now that the girl is possessing the puppet, she helps guide these kids' spirits into the animatronics. And Henry Emily's like, what's happening? Exactly. Pretty much. So

you were saying it was a fungus. We finally get to one of the answers, big answers. You thought it was a fungus. It was actually that all of these animatronics that you saw in Five Nights at Freddy's 1 have the ghosts of children that the creator had murdered and they possessed these animatronics that you saw in Five Nights at Freddy's 1 have the ghosts of children that the creator had murdered and they possessed these animatronics.

And supposedly in one of the cutscenes of when the first kid gets, or is it the second kid? No. Basically William Afton would stuff their bodies into the animatronics to hide them and apparently one of his kids saw that and that's why he was so afraid of the animatronics to hide them. And apparently one of his kids saw that and that's why he was so afraid

of the animatronics at some point. So none of the owner's kids are actually in the animatronics except for the puppet. Well, Henry Emily's daughter is in the puppet. But otherwise, it's just other kids that what he would do

is he would get in the Freddy suit. He would lure kids to the back and then kill them. I remember seeing this. I remember like, remember we saw an old man in the Freddy suit? That's, well, that's William Afton. Yeah. We'll get there. Remember?

What color was he? At the fourth one, it was the beginning part. It almost looked like, like, what's the Pac-Man game? Yeah. Remember it was like, teet-a-dee-ta-dee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like like what's Pac-Man game yeah remember it was like and then it looked like an old man

that's when I say 8-bit that's that pixel-y yeah what color what oh yeah but then but then I remember

the purple one looks familiar but then I remember I could actually tell it was an old man interesting in the Freddy suit and I can't remember which one it was.

So he wasn't old. He was dead. I think if what you're talking about, because essentially we'll get there. That should be the title of this podcast. We'll get there. Essentially, we'll get there. So after the fourth game, blah, blah, blah. Then you have quickly the daughter, Henry the daughter uh uh henry emily's

daughter dies becomes the puppet wild then you have the events of five nights at freddy's two henry emily's daughter was murdered by william afton yeah and then afton's the murderer he's killing he's the bad guy um he is the ultimate bad guy and then and then um then you have the events of five nights at freddy's two which is the one where you're kind of, you're sitting there in the security room, and it's like, the vents. Yeah, it's black in front of you. You kind of click the flashlight.

So that one you play. And Springtrap is the only one that can. That's three. No, that's three. That one's confusing. It's confusing. Three. Two is the one where you didn't need to use the cameras.

That's the mask. You put on the mask. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I thought the mask, right. I thought the mask was also, you use the flashlight in front in Springtrap. It's not mask. You put on the mask. Yes, yes, yes. I thought the mask, right. I thought the mask was also you use the flashlight in front and spring trap. It's not spring trap. No.

So two is, three is the one where you're just seeing that guy. That bunny guy, that spring trap. The one that moved differently. Yeah. The one who'd be peeking out the doorway and he'd be looking at you. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's spring trap. Two is the one we did mostly in VR where you have to pick the thing up

and put it on. Yes, the mask. And then they come straight down. That's where Chica's suddenly like different looking. And also huge in VR. Yeah. She is so tall in VR.

So the second one you play as, I think, kind of just a normal security guard for the first like five nights. Yeah, but it's the security shirt that makes the animatronics be like, oh, you're first five nights. Yeah, but it's the security shirt that makes the animatronics be like, oh, you're the bad guy. Yeah. Why? Oh, because

William got it. It's a purple shirt. Basically, at the end of Five Nights at Freddy's 2, you are killed offscreen. That is the bite of 87.

William Afton is no no oh sorry me yeah you the security guard in two you have your frontal lobe bitten out and like at a birthday party because the phone guy who calls you is like hey like I need you to like you know wear like the wear the security

guard outfit and stay close to the animatronics and then your frontal lobe is bitten out. The security guard is William Afton. No, no. Come on! And then after he dies, there is like a sixth or seventh night, I'm not sure which,

and that's when you take over and you play as Michael Afton, the other son, the son who accidentally killed his brother. But is he alive? He's alive. The brother oh but is he alive he's alive the the brother how does he live with him he's alive but he smells bad yeah he's alive but he smells bad why why why is that why is that part of it um okay but then so after two ends then it goes into one and one you chronicle in the order or in chronological order then it's one and that is where you're playing as Mike

Schmidt aka Michael Afton who is William Afton's son who is basically he's going around and at the end when it's like you're fired for tampering with the electronics it's because he's kind of trying to find and like dismantle like everything that's happening so Michael is

trying to so Michael killed his brother he's trying to, so Michael killed his brother. He's trying to dismantle the animatronics because he feels bad that he killed his brother and he wants to stop his dad? Yeah, more or less. He wants to stop his dad. Does he feel bad that he killed his brother?

Of course. Yeah, I think he does. He was a kid as well. He was a kid as well. So he's actually, so who's the person calling? I think that might be William Afton. It's also so who's the person calling i think it's i think that might be william afton it's also that it's up for debate whether it's a phone call that's what i

just said and you said no oh i thought you're saying who the security guard is no the guy calling yeah yeah i i think it's i'm not sure i think it might be i've never heard that it's william afton i've i've heard that it was courtney but it's also it's up for debate if it's actually the a phone call or if it's a tape that you're listening to. Oh. And not happening in real time. That's what it says on there.

Phone call or tape on the board. Yeah. Oh. So, yeah. God, the guy who created this was probably like, what did I do? Literally.

What's funny is, as Courtney said, these games would be made, but then MatPat and other theorists would create this story that they think is going on, and that would then affect what he then makes, and they're kind of one-upping each other. Yeah, because sometimes their theories

would be better than his lore, and then he'd be kind of stubborn and wanting to be like, actually, it's something else, and try and, like, it was a very, like... So they were literally Matt, Pat, and this creator was literally Henry, Emily, and William. Exactly.

Whoa. That's just a theory. In many ways, Scott was William Afton and Matt, Pat was Henry, Emily, and there was some jealousy. There was a lot of stuff. Sounds like it. You know what it's like?

Do you remember the movie The Village? Of course. Do you remember how that ending got leaked months before the movie came out and then M. Night Shyamalan changed the ending and the ending then sucked? The ending sucked, but I do not remember there being a leak.

I don't remember. That's Ron Howard's daughter and then what's that other actor's name who's in? We do this every episode. We do this every episode. Who is that actor? I've never seen it. And we have so much to cover.

Anyways, so back to this. But that's what was going on. And that's why the lore is confusing. And there's a lot of debate. And things often don't make sense. Or there's very different takes. That I can understand. Because, you know, like I said, Courtney is from the school of MatPat.

Spencer's from the school of Vest. Yeah. Yeah, Spencer's from the school of Vest. I don't know what's going on. And you're from the school of Health. I thought I knew what was going on in every single sentence that said, I'm like, I know as much as Amanda. But I wanted to get to the big first thing, which is it's ghosts. It's ghosts of children that are controlling these animatronics.

Now, the children are, what is their motive to move around? They're trying to find William Afton or they're just trying to live and have a party? I don't think they're trying to live and have a party. I think they are probably vengeful spirits. Are they vengeful? I think they're trying to get William Afton to stop. Got it. I'm stud.

So, do we now move on to Five Nights at Freddy's 3? Sure. I don't know much about this one. Oh, this is the one that I think I... Perfect. Let me... So Five Nights at Freddy's 3 is the one where it's kind of more of like it's years in the future. And it's like, oh, we want to make this haunted...

Based on all these stories we've heard about Freddy Fazbears and all the weird shit that's gone on there and the murders and supposed things that have happened. We want to make this horror attraction. Sorry, real fast. Do you remember which one three is? Three is the one where it's just that yellow rabbit coming. And then you'd have the flashes on screen, but it wouldn't be dead. And you'd turn it off and then you'd hear.

Is that what you're talking about? That's the bedroom. No, no, no, no, no. That weird hallway that it was really dark and it was like a little game and you turn on the light and you don't have to wrap to the spot. No, that was four. That was four. That's a minigame. That's a minigame in four.

Three is the one with the computer where you'd have to reboot. Remember? It's like reboot all. Let me show you what the room looks like in FNAF 3 If that It's like where you're in that room Like the whole time It's the one where he pokes his head out

Of the It's like he'll walk by Yeah yeah yeah That's the one where you have to turn to the computer And it's like oh I have to reboot the systems Oh oh Remember when we had to keep rebooting And it's like, oh, I have to reboot the systems. Oh, oh. Remember when we had to keep rebooting, and I was like, let's just reboot it all at once,

and you were like, no, don't do that. Just reboot the vents. Just reboot the whatever. I remember when I was told not to do something. That gets me back. Yeah, so we... Remember when you got in trouble, and we had to take you out back?

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. It was awful. I barely recovered. Only being chased by the yellow rabbit. But there's the weird faces that would just pop up sometimes. Yes, yes, yes. That was the first one where you, like, cried.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, oh, my God. That's why I forgot it. Yeah, it was dramatic. And then you would see there was one really fucked up, messed up robot animatronic thing on the ground in one of the cameras. Yes, yes, yes. There was different eras where they would take away certain animatronics or bring in other ones. Yes, they vaulted them.

And those shadows that you saw was their spirits. And it was like kind of the game being, so it's like you could get scared but still play. Oh, okay. But it was like, they called it Nightmare Shadow Bunny. It's because you had to like, it's like, it's because you were like running out of air. Remember you had to like reset the air.

Now I remember, I remember that, the ventilation. Yeah. But you're being, we're only running away from that yellow rabbit. Yeah. What is your theory? Did you have a theory on who that yellow rabbit was? Springtrap. Springtrap.

There's just the one guy. And we'd be sitting there being like, fuck you. I remember that. Well, now I have more of a theory than I did back then. Maybe it's the, well, you said none of the kids are in the animatronics. Well, the spirits of children are in these animatronics. So which spirit of, yeah, but. But the bodies were eventually found.

They did like find, but then the animatronics were still left behind. Oh, so the possession. So it wouldn't be, Springtrap wouldn't be the youngest son. The bite of 83. I like that guess, though. The story is pretty insane. You're probably not going to... Tell me.

It's a lot. So I know the general one. And then we can add, we can solve it. We can add the details. So William Afton's killing all these children, right? But he's,

he eventually ends up, he goes back to the Five Nights at Freddy's, or he goes back to Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. He's there. And then he sees the ghosts of these children. And they.

And it's famously known that it's five of them. Five of these children. And he sees them. He's freaking out. They chase him and corner him. We got to this cut scene at one point in Five Nights at Freddy's 3. Yes. Where they all show up and you see this yellow bunny suit.

Yes. And there's this purple guy and you're like, who's this purple guy? Uh-huh. He then is like, okay, you're not going to get me. I'm going to stop you. I'm going to hide in this suit. I'm going to hide in this suit. I'm going to get in this suit.

William Afton. William Afton. The guy who killed all these children. The guy behind it all. He gets into this suit and then the spring lock stuff messes up and it skewers him and just completely decimates his body on the inside. So he's now possessed. Well, this is what's really crazy.

Fucks him up. He's there in this room. Nobody finds him for decades. And he doesn't die. He refuses to die because he's such a hateful, vengeful, crazy person. A little hate I aspired at. This is where the game takes a train to crazy town. Okay.

He doesn't die. He's just in the suit, basically as this weird, undead, robotic nightmare person. And he's there until that's found and it's brought to that horror attraction. And so that is literally William Afton coming after you.

He's just a murderous monster. And one of the fun things that's on this board, that's like, for example, of how people are putting some of these things together is this kid who's leading the other kids in, in chasing him. You see on this shot,

there's a tear streaming down with an eye, very similar to the, these are tears going down the puppet's face. That is so sad. So that's the, that's Henry Emily's daughter, who was helping all these spirits get revenge. And then he's like, I refuse to die. I refuse.

So then he's in this suit now, and he just doesn't die because he just doesn't die. And he's the worst looking one. Yeah, he's super messed up. Yeah, that's why he moved differently than the animatronics that were just like. Yeah, because he doesn messed up. Yeah, that's why he moved differently than the animatronics that were just like... Yeah, because he doesn't understand. Well, because he's a body.

They're just spirits within a machine. Actual animatronic. And so he's literally... That is so scary. I think that if I knew that, the games would be scarier. Really?

Yeah. See, I think that made it less scary for me because I'm just like, oh, there's all this crazy lore. No. I think attaching like, I know it's not true.

Well, I don't know. Attaching those type of facts to it would make it scarier for me. Wow. Yeah. Are there any questions you have as far as the first four games that you are curious about? So so william afton's son

michael killed his brother by accident he was young he felt really really bad about it so he became the security guard and william afton was like oh fuck i can't believe this is happening but like i want to keep going and then because he was so, he wanted to figure out the possession of his own son. He started killing kids, stuffing them in the animatronics. And the animatronics started coming after him as the possessed souls. And then he had this, during all of that, William Afton had this like, kind of like, fuck you, one-upping situation with Henry Emily. And then he kills Henry Emily's daughter.

And then she becomes a puppet and then kind of protects the realm and then he, all the souls of the kids go after him and then he jumps into the yellow bunny and then he's now spring-trapped and fucked up. That's what I've gotten so far.

Honestly? Pretty good. You gathered it really well. Yeah. Look, people in the comments might dispute some things, but you know the general story. Shane, your comments are going to be a nightmare. I like information. I like information. I didn't realize this about myself, but Garde is always just like, okay, you won't say yes until you get all the information. I love information so much, so i am eating this up right now whether whether it's true or not whatever this

is our theory also for for people watching we will have you watch the matpat videos so you can then fully know but this is like the introduction i'll watch him if I can meet him. Because this is us regurgitating MatPat as far as we interpreted it to you. So it's a game of telephone, and we're probably fucking up a lot. But that's okay. This is fun. Big question. Should I watch the movie? I want to watch it with you.

Okay. Fuck yeah. But it's also, the movie doesn't align very much with this lore. It's confusing. It's kind of a different thing. It's a weird Frankenstein. Honestly, it's visually really cool. Blumhouse did the best they could with

the script. Got it. Understood. And they had, I think, Jim Henson company make all the puppets. Not even joking, no. It's really cool looking. That's really crazy. That's really crazy. Jim Henson?

I think his son took over theenson. Yeah, his son. Because I think his son took over the company. It's really cool. His son took over the company because he did what to his other kid? Yeah, because Jim Henson... See, Jim Henson and Stan Winston had a... No, no, no, we're joking that it's a Henry Emily, William Afton situation. No, Jim Henson was a real guy.

No. Okay, what else? Okay. I guess we get into Sister Location now. Which takes place kind of in between four and two. Up for debate. Sister Location

is... That was the one where you guys... It was the first one where you guys were like, this is really different. It's like where you're crawling and you have to keep stopping. Oh, I was not a fan of this one. The door, the door. Yeah, you're trying to hold the door from the baby.

Yeah, it's awful. You're holding the door from, yeah, that baby. Ugh, this one drove me nuts. Okay. Yeah. So that one, you are playing as Michael Afton. I believe so. Yes, and I, see, I heard chronologically that this could, this could take place who fucking knows when.

But you are playing as Michael Afton. Now, the crazy thing about this one, do you remember this girl was the one who was like talking to us and leading us around the whole thing? See what this is? She talks so much, man. So the theory is that that is William Afton's daughter. Who got scooped.

Scooped? You just used the word scooped. She didn't know what that is. What's scooped? She got scooped. What's scooped? Did she get scooped? She got scooped.

Give me the definition of scooped. So these animatronics had, they were like a different model. very different from the other stuff and they had these weird mysterious storage compartments in their abdomen and so you might have seen in some of the gameplay where you look at blueprints of these animatronics that it like

you could almost see like a child inside of the abdomen of these things. And so, basically, the kids love these. Some of the kids love these animatronics. The daughter loved them. Some of the cutscenes, you see the brother, like, seeing her in the backyard playing with her little FNAF dolls. She was just like, Courtney. Yeah, and, like,

you might have heard a recording of the daughter being like, hey, like, why won't you let me near the animatronics? Like, I really didn't you make her for me oh that made and the daughter saying that made this one because they wanted to be alive it was like it was like a weird storm of william afton wanting to create life for himself to live on forever but also the then he it was just this this factory wasn't just making these animatronics it was harvesting children's souls and because there was something special and magical about a child's soul that is like truly magic and can be like used as like infinite energy that he was trying to use. And so she snatches the kid up and puts her in there,

and then she's stuck in there. She scoops her? Is that what scooping is? Scooping is a thing that happens in the factory where it's supposedly for the robots, but it ends up being done to people. Oh. And it becomes this weird back and forth

where William Afton is trying to basically create life and then these robots want to be alive. Oh. So there's books and there's cut scenes that kind of make it that it's potentially... Feels like one of those typical stories where like the mad scientist, his project takes

over. Yeah. Ex Machina. That's very much, I think FNAF... That's what this feels like. FNAF is just like Ex Machina. It's very much... That's what this feels like. FNAF is just like Ex Machina. Essentially, his daughter... He's already lost the son. He's already lost... Evan.

He already lost Ian Hecox from Smog. And then he's like, this can't happen again. And then he's making all these other robots because he's fucking stupid. His daughter is left alone with Baby. And Baby's like, Baby wants Baby inside of Baby. Exactly.

And then Baby kills and then ultimately possesses, I don't remember. Her eyes change colors. In the game, you see the daughter has blue eyes and Baby had green eyes and when i might that might be switched and then when the daughter gets possesses the robot her eye color changed to the daughter's oh because baby's like i want to know what it's like to yeah literally have the child's soul in me well if you listen this was the i listened to this like right before

we did this you hear it's when you're like pulling the fucking door shut that it's like when you're in the door you hear baby talking to you and baby's like hey like i was in the room with this girl and you know i gave her ice cream and the next thing i knew like she was she was inside my my stomach uh she was like and she was like that's where i think you guys heard her she's's like, oh, like the screaming stopped like really quickly. I remember this now. See, that makes it way scarier. Whereas like when I was doing it, I was so annoyed with the fucking door that now I would be like, oh, God.

And I think that is the. Freaky. If I can get a bigger picture here for a minute. I think that's what's hard to do about horror and like horror games especially. You have to know the lore. Well, no, it's like the second you get get frustrated the second it kind of becomes not scary and i think that's what you guys were encountering a lot in the newest one it's like security breach yeah second you guys uh we were getting frustrated so we weren't as scared so the game wasn't as fun yeah like you want in

a horror game to feel like if you fail, then it becomes frustrating. But if it's like, if you feel like you're about to fail, that's when it's really scary. Yeah, tension is what's scary. And that's why like when we did VR, what was so scary for me is I never saw the animatronics. And that actually made it worse for me because I was just like waiting to see them. The Jaws effect. Because that's the thing with horror is like sometimes it's a perfect amount of mystery that makes it more scary. And I think that that's also why those games weren't as scary because you're seeing too much.

You're seeing way too much. They're like interacting with you. You're like crawling around in Freddy Fazbear. He's like, he's walking you around. Like there's not, they're in full daylight. And the movie fucks up in that way where you see too much and you're like, you get the ick. You don't want to see too much. It's like the classic movie Halloween.

Like, that was one of the first real horror movies that really did that so well, which is what you don't see is the scariest part. And he's just a guy with a mask, but that movie is terrifying. It's why, like, my favorite of all the games, and the one I had the most fun playing, was the first one. Because it's just so minimal, and you're just truly in a room. You're looking at security cameras, and they're just there. They're just static. They're not moving around. And that always freaked me the hell out the most.

Once you get later on, you're seeing them move around. I'm just like, I'm not as scared now. There's too much going on when it's just still images. Also security cameras. I think the knowing that they're getting closer, but you can't see them. You can only see them through a blurry image.

It's brilliant, frankly. Like signs. It's really, really brilliant. Do you want to get back to it? Yeah. A theory that I, maybe I misinterpreted this from MatPat, but I think was something that made me less scared, just thinking about the story itself, is at the end,

because we didn't beat a lot of these games, but at the end of Sister... Well, we tried. We did try. We tried our best. We really did. But at the end of Sister Location, and you're playing as Michael Afton,

what happens at the end of that gameation and you're playing as Michael Afton what happens at the end of that game is that you get scooped. Yeah. You get led to a room by Baby. She leads you to a room and it then scoops everything out of him and then he is replaced. They replace what they scooped out

with animatronic, a machine. So Michael Afton is actually an animatronic. Which animatronic? He's a human with animatronic insides. Then it starts getting really messed up because then these robots, they start wanting to take on the people. It's like the roles are reversed and there's cut scenes of him walking around in the world and his body gets more and more messed up because he's basically this walking corpse

but with a machine moving his body. And so he smells bad. That's why he's stinky. Wait, guys. I don't remember playing it and having the smell bad thing ever be a thing. It's a cut scene. I don't get it either.

It's only at the end when it's fired for tampering with the machine and odor. Oh, I remember that. And I was like, that's weird. So that makes a lot of stuff crazier is that the entire time you're playing as an animatronic person. Kind of, yeah. And the rest of those games are... When am I playing as an animatronic?

As one... In Five Nights at Freddy's 1 and 2. You're playing as Michael Afton, who has been scooped and is a dead guy, but who's still, like... He's trying to fix it. He's driven to solve the... Or, like, resolve the...

Make amends for his father's mistakes. Wow. So he's trying to, like, William Afton was, like, had a, like, a side quest of, like, making synthetic people, almost. Like, and that's what Michael Afton ended up becoming, was, like, because it's, like, robot inside, person outside. And a lot of the books are like, I guess they're not the best written, but like there's books where it's like about the daughter and how she might've been taken on by baby. But the story is about this young girl who's like, she's grown up.

And then she starts to learn that she's not a real person. And she was supposedly the daughter of William Afton. So like there's all these weird interesting side plots of him he literally tried to recreate his kids with this soul energy and with robotics I see so the kids are just dealing with the father's

madness did you ever meet her did you ever meet her I do remember her she's the one in the dark room that we're trying to hide she's the ballerina she sings yes mother yeah so that's it's it's really annoying to me because matt pat at first totally dismissed her and a lot of people don't really pay attention to her but it's like so obvious to me that william afton made her after his wife because there's so many like cut scenes where there's an upset disgruntled wife and literally baby the daughter and then

this woman so that's why i put mother because it's like very obviously like i don't think it's her soul but i think she left him and he wanted to replace her in a sense definitely that's my personal theory i believe that that feels like it's like why else and then people are like no he just wanted to make more sexy characters because there is this community that like totally sexualizes the animatronics and it's, it's a thing.

It's a different. It's a pretty awesome community. And it's frankly pretty sick. And remember, these are children. So what was funny is when you were like talking about Chica, it's like,

is Chica a baby or a woman? It's like, both. Kind of both, but a ghost of a baby or a woman it's like both kind of both but a ghost of a child well she's both but the young child is stunted in growth

they're not growing up to be adults right I guess not but then again why did the animatronic change so much is it a different animatronic

it's just constantly new models so it's a different model so the kid goes off and possesses the new models no I don't think so I think they're just fully different they're like updated so maybe it's a different model so the kid goes off and possesses the new models no i don't think so i

think they're just fully different like updated so maybe it's a possession of someone else but it's not an adult well i think he also murdered more kids than those five yeah oh yeah no those are just the original five so yeah i think you're right where it's like yeah he was literally like harvesting children's soul energy in this sister location facility where he's creating all these robots and that's how i powered robots and that's what empowered them. And that's where you see it's like the underground. It is like the sister location, I think it

might be under his house. Where the fungus is. Where the fungus is. The fungus is the soul energy. I don't think we really addressed, but in Five Nights at Freddy's 4, you know where you're like the sun, you're running around and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that son was so annoying.

There, you know, there's like the animatronic, like the little mini Fazbear on the bed. That's how the dad would kind of keep him in check. It's got like camera eyes. And I think you see the footage like of that like later in the game. His little toy and it talks to him, right? Yeah, that's like, you know,

his surrogate dad kind of like, you know. I thought it was just to him right yeah that's like you know his surrogate dad kind of like you know i thought it was just like him yeah just surveying yeah so like there's like surveillance cameras in the in like all throughout the house so when the little kid evan is going through one of the games he's not dead yet he's not dead but he dies in the game like kind of like off camera. I didn't know that. Well, because sometimes in the gameplay, you see like hospital stuff.

You might not have paid attention to the environment so much. Well, I don't think y'all got that far. Which, understandable. It's so scary. Yeah, there are occasional moments, I guess, in the game where if, and I need to just watch someone else play it again,

because I watched Markiplier play it, but you'll occasionally see like is it like an IV or something? You'll see like hospital things. So it's like once you're on the fourth night or fifth night and so you're like oh wait why is the environment kind of changing and it's because then

I guess supposedly you're then playing. So like the first four nights you're like having a nightmare and then in between it's like night four and five, or five and six, or whatever. That's when the bite of 83 occurs. You're in the coma. And you're in the coma, and then as you're dying,

you have the one last nightmare, and that's when your father's like, I will put you back together. That's truly the most horrifying plot line of any of the games, and that is also the worst game to play. It is so terrifying. I love that we're putting all of this information

and then attaching game to it. I know. Like, game. And the game is, like, so minimal and silly. Yeah, no, because in Matt Pat's videos, he's telling all this lore and story and showing cut scenes, but he doesn't show a single lick of gameplay. It's so interesting.

Well, it's because you see the gameplay and you're just like, yeah. You're just like, the gameplay is not, it's, yeah. Sitting guy. But it's funny, I mean, even all these, like, horrific events, when you see them in the, like, you're just like the game is not it's yeah but it's funny i mean even all these like horrific events when you see them in the like in the like cut scenes it's just like and then like the worst thing ever happened you see like a silly little so so do we know which kids are in which animation i don't think like there are there is content i think

there's like they all like like one of the kids like, one of the kids, I think one of the kids' names is like Fritz or something silly. It's Fitzgerald, but it's Fritz. Who's in Chica? That's what I want to know. A girl, a little girl. A little girl.

She's hungry. Now, I don't even know the answer to this, but is like another kid in Balloon Boy and stuff? I don't know the Balloon Boy lore. We gotta give this to Shane. This is his obsession.

I don't know Balloon Boy lore. He needs to know Balloon Boy. Okay, so the kid, okay, so there is a child the Balloon Boy lore. We gotta give this to Shane. I don't know Balloon Boy lore. He needs to know. Okay, so the kid, okay, so there is a child within Balloon Boy. His name is Shane Topp. Yeah. It's me. And he keeps coming in.

Hello. Hello. It's me. Hello. Hello. So we need to know Balloon Boy lore. I don't know Balloon Boy lore. I don't either.

Same. I think, I wanted to cover just that it's ghosts. Yeah, and there was a lot of, was a lot of these animatronics, like the puppet, it was supposed to be surveillance by purpose. Yeah. And it was a surveillance thing for, not just for the kids' spirits,

but when it was built for the pizza place, it was to watch kids. Oh, just to like, oh, I'm sorry? So Balloon Boy's, his pronouns were he, him. According to the Five Nights at Freddy's wiki. The Five Nights at Freddy's wiki is fan-made.

Oh, it is? It's all fan-made. But the creator of these games be popping off on Twitter, or at least used to be. Yeah, there's no lore on the wiki. Good job. Well, I guess the commenters... You literally interrupted me deep into some lore to give us nothing.

Go off, girl, give us nothing. He wears blue pants and simple brown shoes. Wow, see, I didn't know that. See, I actually didn't know that. Due to the fact that his only lines of dialogue depict him saying hello, hi, and laughter, Balloon Boy's personality is not clearly specified. Yeah. But the way that the... But of those these animatronics that were being made and with the timeline being all crazy this sister location where it was the facility where they made a lot of

these animatronics these animatronics weren't just in the facilities they were also rented out to birthday parties so there was like i think you could see a schedule of availability a schedule for of availability for each of the animatronics and you could see a schedule of availability a schedule of availability for each of the animatronics and you could see like oh Chica wasn't available because she was either in maintenance

or at a party and like so Balloon Boy could have been made and then they all just like had at some point they just had a soul

a generic soul that was just taken at some point. We haven't even gotten to brother location. But doesn't that is that made up brother location. But doesn't that, is that made up? Yeah.

But doesn't that suck that you die and you have to possess and then you have to work kids' parties? It's almost like getting killed and then you're like, all right, well you're dead.

Sorry about that. Go work this princess party. You're gonna be Cinderella for a bunch of 10-year-olds. A fate worse than death. Yeah. I don't, I think balloon, but some might just legit be animatronics because the animatronics work. for a bunch of 10 year olds. Good luck. Yeah. I don't like,

I think Balloon Boy, like some might just legit be animatronics because like the animatronics work. They do. Like you can, like Balloon Boy might just legit

just be an animatronic. Like they sing songs and give ice cream. Like that's like the whole thing. Have you ever met Charles Entertainment Cheese? No. Chuck E. Cheese.

Oh. That's his full name. I, so when I was a kid, I did not like going. Chuck E. Cheese. Oh. That's his full name. So when I was a kid, I did not like going to Chuck E. Cheese because I don't like animatronics and dolls. I get scared of them. I like dolls. Animatronics. I'm not around animatronics that much, but I remember Chuck E. Cheese being like, even, remember in the Goofy movie, when they went to go to a pizza place,

and they had fake animatronics, and it was kind of a scary scene, do you remember that? Well, I mean, what's crazy is, one, so you know how, the thing that started, the thing that started all of this, which was them telling you that Five Nights was a true story, the game itself is roughly nights was a true story the game itself is roughly inspired by a true story that happened at chucky cheese and this is trigger warning it is like

based on a real murder that happened it was an ex-employee came into a chucky cheese after hours like a party was running late and five employees were still there, five. And they were all, I'm so sorry, this is dark, but they were shot. And he thought he killed all five of them, but the fifth person was still alive, survived, and then that person was put to trial and arrested. So that person was able to be like, no. No, no, this happened where this person thought he killed all of them in a Chuck E. Cheese. They were not in the suits. Well, I need to look this up. Yeah, that's what started it all.

Whoa. And that was in the early 90s, I believe. Damn. This is like, it's such a crazy story, but it's also like, you know how they say there's like 10 stories and we just keep doing theories based on those 10 main stories? This is true. and we just keep doing theories based on those 10 main stories. This is true. It's very much greed, hunger, well, yeah, kind of hunger, but greed, jealousy, and having a bunch of people pay for one person's greed and their mistakes.

It's very much that story. But, shall I say, it's also very fungus-like because everything is connected and all the animatronics are also, they're kind of like talking to each other. So really,

I was correct. Yeah, I think you were right. It's like a spectral fungus. Well, the creator of Five Nights at Freddy's could come out and say, you know what, actually, Amanda's correct.

Yeah, he might. He could change it all and then we, you know what? Actually, Amanda's correct. Yeah. He might tweet. He could change it all and then we're like, that's it. That's true now. I doubt it. But that's awesome. Yeah. This was unbelievable.

Yeah. There's also so much we didn't touch on. Oh, yeah. Some things might have been out of order. There is cut scenes and stuff that happened to Henry Emily, the business partner. Yeah, I want to know about that. But yeah, I feel pretty good about what we told Amanda today.

You now could have a conversation with someone about it. Absolutely. When I meet Matt Pat, we will talk. Literally, no. I mean, look, I tried reaching out to him. I've had no success um but uh when someday we do have him on because that's my dream uh you will be able to just riff on it now so you'll have matt pat on and i'll have keith morrison on and we'll bring them on on the same episode exactly they're basically the same oh okay um, okay. But it's also important to note that we didn't really get to any of the resolutions of any of this.

Some of the games do kind of try and resolve this. Yeah. But frankly, there's five different endings where it's like, and then they finally kill William Afton, but he's back. Yeah. We didn't play some of the games, too. Yeah, there's one thing he says. He says, I always come back. Yeah. But you't play some of the games, too. Yeah, there's one thing he says. He says, I always come back. Yeah.

Oh. But you know the general idea. You know it's ghosts now. It's not fungus. You guys have launched me into the beginning of my research journey. Yeah, and I will be sending you the entire playlist of Matt Pat's explanations. We should make sure we send her the important ones. When you get the playlist, you can see there's some that have 600,000 views,

and then you'll see some that have like 48 million views 48 million yeah he's mad pat and and the problem not the problem but uh you know when he's making the earlier videos he doesn't have all the information like because no one did so he's making like his theories based on like just playing the first two and then by the time the third or fourth one comes out it'll kind of like undermine or cancel like things that like he. Cancel out. Like predicted. So I would recommend and, you know, we'll try and curate like, you know, maybe we'll post some in the comments too or in the description.

It's like, hey. I love that idea. It's hard journalism and research that he's done. Like he worked so hard. Don't laugh at that. No, I'm saying it's it's'm saying there's a truth to it. I don't even know how many hours

he spent researching the gameplay itself, all these forums, and trying to make sense of it all himself. And he truly told an amazing story so much so that he threw

the creator for a loop and honestly, it all imploded on itself. Whoa. So he became the mad scientist no he's henry emily that's what and then with the vr game that potentially plays into it where it's like oh he sold off the gameplay but turns out springtrap is inside the vr because you as an

employee of this vr company are inspecting the games when you're playing them and you get led down to actually let springtrap out on accident. It's crazy. Which is William Afton. Yeah. You think. But that's just a theory. You said it!

So cool. You said it! I'm so cool. Well, thank you both for being here. Yes, thank you so much. Thank you both for covering this for me because I didn't know. And this board.

We need to take a picture of this board and post it somewhere. Oh, this is so much. Thank you both for covering this for me because I didn't know. And this board. We need to take a picture of this board and post it somewhere. Oh, this is the thumbnail. Okay. Just that. None of us. Just picture MatPat. Amanda,

the Five Nights at Freddy's journey has been insane. Oh, and there's so much I didn't get to say. I know. We scratched the surface. I'm sure there's inconsistencies. People who are watching right now,

if you're a FNAF fan and this made your little soul cringe, I'm so sorry, but it's all just a theory like Amanda said. That's right. Yeah, that's what Amanda's known for saying. That's just a theory. Yep. A gang theory. Okay.

Now he's never going to come on. Yeah, I know. Don't do that. Hey, Henry, Emily, it's fine. Just come on the show. Yeah, come on down, Henry, Emily. Thank you all for watching. Amanda, thanks for being such a sport throughout all this.

Oh, my God. I love it. I was so, so, so curious, and now I have this information. Thanks for spending so much time on it. I appreciate it. I'm excited. I love it. I was so, so, so curious, and now I have this information. Thanks for spending so much time on it. I appreciate it. I'm excited. I love scary shit. Love you.

Love you. All right. I guess I'm attracted to you. What's going on? Ha! Ha!