Smosh Mouth - #5 - Getting Tarot Readings w/ Jackie Uweh

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:19 If you have questions or concerns about gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hi, welcome to the Smoshcast. I'm Shane Topp. And I'm Amanda Lee Hankento, and we are here with our wonderful guest, Jackie
Starting point is 00:00:42 Uwe. Hey. What's up, girl? I'm so excited to be here. This is fun. This is the mood lighting. It's different. I know. It's bright.
Starting point is 00:00:50 We're not in our apartments. I know. I know. It's a very different vibe. Amanda never experienced that vibe. No, I didn't. Too bad. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Too bad. This episode's a little different than the past couple. I found out recently that Amanda, you do tarot readings. Yes. So I pull tarot for genuinely for myself. Like I'll do morning cards, but over COVID, I actually was like pulling for friends for fun, even on zoom or like after COVID, I would do it in person. And it was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:01:25 oh, I'm kind of just in love with this. I'm kind of good at this. Well, I mean, maybe, but yeah, I've,
Starting point is 00:01:33 I've been pulling tarot for probably three years. Wow. My really good friend, Dunya, who's incredible, um, has been pulling tarot for a while and she kind of got me into it. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:01:42 I don't know about this. Cause like, I've never been to a psychic before and I'm And I was like, I don't know about this, because I've never been to a psychic before, and I'm a bit of like, I don't know about this. And then when I started pulling tarot, I was like, oh, this is just something that is in your mind subconsciously, and you pull and you go, oh, that's what that thought is.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Interesting. It just helped me understand things, put things into words. Interesting, because I am definitely a skeptical person. I'm not an active believer in a lot of things like this, but
Starting point is 00:02:13 I am also very open to the possibility of stuff. I do believe in there's so much going on in my head that I don't know what that is. So it's kind of like when you flip a penny to make a decision and then it lands on the opposite thing of what you wanted. And that's how you figure out what you want. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Kind of that vibe. Exactly. And then the tarot cards can give you a sense with actual written words in there. And you're like, oh. And then you have the whole day, especially if you do morning pull, which is just like one card. It's like morning pages,
Starting point is 00:02:49 but it's like, then you have the whole day to be like, oh, oh, I see. It's really fun. Have you ever had
Starting point is 00:02:55 your cards pulled, Jackie? Jackie, have you ever done this before? Jackie, have you ever had tarot? I have had tarot done before. I do want to say, I'm not a skeptic, but the way I was raised, just with African,
Starting point is 00:03:08 my culture, we really respect witchcraft because it is on and popping. So I am also very respectful of tarot, where I'm like, oh, I don't live by it, but I'm like, no. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I have had my cards pulled before.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I had them pulled on the Smosh Pit channel, which is very fun. She said I needed to spend more time with animals. And then my first cat showed up that night. The lights went out. My cat showed up. And my life was changed. And then I also. See, that to me is where tarot gets really kind of cool,
Starting point is 00:03:45 because you're like, universal things just happened. Yeah. It was super wild, because I've never had a pet before, and then she just literally showed up that night. But we also made the joke of, I think her name is Emma. I want to say her name is Emma. No, Irma. The tarot reader that we brought in,
Starting point is 00:04:04 we were making a joke, like, she was probably outside my house just throwing cats. Just throwing cats on the block. She needs to believe in me! Yeah, yeah. But also, I have had the pleasure of having Amanda pull my cards. Yes, you have. I have.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It was, what, the last day of VidCon? It was the last day of VidCon in my hotel room. Yes, and the vibes were right. There was background music playing. I think Harry Potter was on the was, like, background music playing. I think Harry Potter was on the TV. It was background music playing.
Starting point is 00:04:29 It was, like, TNT. TBS was on. And she pulled, like, the best, like, coolest reading ever. And it meant so much to me. Did she cry? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And when I say she, who knows? I don't know. Nobody knows. But it was great. And I just think you're really great at it. great and I just think you're really great at it and so I just felt
Starting point is 00:04:46 very like privileged to have that done especially like after such a long weekend yeah it was really cool it was an amazing thing to do for you
Starting point is 00:04:53 after a long weekend of VidCon where we were like chilling about to go home like so much extrovertedness and then I pulled your cards and it was like
Starting point is 00:05:02 vroom like we just zoomed in and you were like oh shit yeah yes and that was really special because I I didn't know what you were thinking I didn't know the question that you asked and it was really cool to like go on that journey with you and I think
Starting point is 00:05:16 that's the thing with Tarot is like things just come to light where you're like okay I'll listen to that yeah you know there's like a million things to think about every single day so like even having like a million things to think about every single day. So like even having like a little like push in the right direction or a direction, right? Not even the right direction. A direction I think is really cool.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, I think that's my mindset on it is even if you're not a believer in anything spiritual, it's a nice like mindful exercise to do because it focuses in your thing. And often when you're told a statement of like, oh, you think this way. If it's wrong, that's still helpful because it kind of makes you think about what you actually think about stuff. Yeah. How you actually feel about the world. And so I have actually gone to a psychic. What?
Starting point is 00:05:58 And when I went and did it, I was very much like not a believer in it. And I'm still not like an active believer in it. But I went and I remember doing it. And I remember walking away and feeling really good. It's kind of that just feeling focused, feeling kind of zen. Because for an hour, you're sitting there and someone is telling you things about yourself. And some things do ring very true. And it does make you very introspective in a great way. And it was, like, dare I say, enlightening. It was an enlightening experience. I didn't walk away going, oh, I believe in sidekicks. But I did walk away going, that was worth the money that I paid.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And I enjoyed that. And would I go again? Yeah. But, you know, like myself, I'm sure many people are viewing are not like active believers in that, that's okay. Like we're not trying to convince you of anything. This is something that's important to you.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Exactly, this is just, this is something that has helped me personally. That's why like, I don't pull tarot for people and you know, do a business or anything. It's genuinely just for me, it's for me and my friends to pull for each other. And I think it's totally okay to be a skeptic, like, and unsure about it. Because I think whatever works for you, whatever helps you find enlightenment or figure out what the fuck is going on is good for you. Like, you should do that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And for me, it was tarot. Because I am a verbal processor and I really loved like understanding what was going on. Also, what I like about tarot is it doesn't tell you your future, right? It doesn't, it's not like you're going to die in seven days. It's not the ring, but it looks like that's why I, and I still am afraid to go to a psychic and I have not gotten my cards read by a professional that I don't know yet. Interesting. go to a psychic and I have not gotten my cards read by a professional that I don't know yet interesting I've gotten my cards read by my friend Dunia who's incredibly connected just an amazing person also has such a great heart and she has really helped me figure out what the cards mean I'm like okay I don't really understand this card and she like talks to me
Starting point is 00:08:00 about it so for me I still have my skept. Like I'm still afraid of specific things. But I think genuinely it's just like what works for you doesn't always work for everybody else. Right. You know? Absolutely. I will say there's nothing funnier to me than like psychics who are clearly frauds.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Because those do exist. Do you remember that one? There was one who was on a talk show forever ago. This is messed up, but there's a clip of this online where these parents, it's on like a, it's like a Maury or a Dr. Phil type of show. Naturally. And it's this old 60-year-old blonde woman.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Her hair is fried. She's got just insane makeup on. She's got cats for sure. 50. But these parents, whose son had been missing came to the show. And they're like, where is our son? Like, where is our son? And she tells them face to face.
Starting point is 00:08:51 She's like, your son is dead. Oh. The son was then found like a week or two later. Dude. It's like, dude, come on. At least be a better fake. Be like, it's cloudy. I don't know
Starting point is 00:09:06 well you know those psychics that they bring on for murders it's like they give them all the crime scene photos and they're like they're by a river and there's they were probably kidnapped
Starting point is 00:09:18 and murdered there's rocks they're calling me from the dead and you're like sorry you just know how crime works. Fingerprints were found at the scene.
Starting point is 00:09:31 On a rock. And the detectives are like, and the parents are like, thank you. But I get it when you're a parent. Like, oh, my god, if your child is missing, you're. You don't have to ask anything. I would literally do anything. Smoke signals, whatever. OK, so. All right. OK. Shall would literally do anything. Smoke signals, whatever. Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:09:46 All right. Okay. Shall we introduce? Let's start. Okay, so here's the thing. There's like a thing that is told with tarot that you're not supposed to buy your own deck. I've heard this before. This deck was gifted to me by Dunya, who's incredible.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But I have bought my own deck, and I researched it, and it's one of my favorite decks. So I can't say if that's incredible. But I have bought my own deck, and I researched it, and it's one of my favorite decks. So I can't say if that's true. If people, like in the comments, if you guys totally believe that, that's really cool. I think you should live by that. But I have actually decided like, oh, I'm gonna buy my own deck.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I think it gives me more of like a magical or more of connected feeling to it. So anyways, this was gifted to me. It's called the Witches Wisdom Tarot. It's the tarot that I read for you. Have not read for you yet. It's so cool. So you can, they have an Instagram which is amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Their Instagram, we'll link it below. But it's Witches Wisdom Tarot on Instagram. And like Phyllis Carat does the writing and Danielle Barlow does the art of it. And what's cool about this deck specifically is that, so tarot uses the suits, right? Swords, wands, pentacles, cups. Those are all different meanings.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And then those are the minor arcana. And then the major arcana is like more of life themes, right? So like the star, the moon, the fool. And when you say arcana, what does arcana mean for Shane? Not for me. Okay. Us who've been playing D&D. Well, arcana is your magic intelligence.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Shit! Arcana to me specifically. Remember, this is all specific to my taking of this. Arcana is like magic, like everyday magic, everyday spirituality, everyday connection to the other world. Yeah, the unseen. Trust the universe. You got that, Shane? I got it.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That's to me. I do. Okay. And to be clear, I believe there is more stuff in the world that I do not understand than I understand. So that is, and that can be called magic. That's just the unknown. That's kind of what this is. So a major arcana, like the fool, the star, all these cards are more life themes for you.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And the minor arcana with suits can be like, oh, this is a theme for you today or or yesterday or this week or this month what's cool about this is they um it's called the witch's wisdom so they use earth air fire water instead of suits which is like pretty cool they they they believe that tarot they believe that you can find so the original tarot decks believe that enlightenment is when you're like left you know on another plane like you you have to leave earth they believe that yeah exactly avatar they believe that enlightenment no it's it's i feel like tarot can be whatever you want it to be they believe that enlightenment can be found right here on earth in nature in our bodies cool which i actually love
Starting point is 00:12:46 yeah yeah i love that look at this cool so there's like this linen little um bag that it comes in which feels very special love it love it the box is special love the vibe the box is so special there's a little fox in the inner oh how cute, that's you. For those of you just listening to the podcast, there's a little fox. There's, I don't know if you can get this. That was a perfect description. There's a little fox. There's a little fox. There's a little fox.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Shane, that's you, hiding behind the trees, wondering, what are those witches doing? Okay, so I feel like today we're going to do three cards each. Okay. And with three cards, you can really do anything. It always feels very full circle to me. We're going to do past, present, future. Great. So I'm going to shuffle this, which might get annoying for the mics.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Or maybe it'll be ASMR. Ooh, ASMR. Oh, get out. Shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. Tarot, tarot, tarot. Guys, ASMR is pretty sick. There tarot, tarot, tarot. Guys, ASMR is pretty sick. There's probably so many traditions to tarot, I'm guessing. Kind of like you can't buy your own deck.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I'm sure there's just tons of things of like, don't bend the cards. Exactly. Don't shuffle them this way. There's also like, oh, sage them after you pull for someone. I feel like there's a lot of different things, which just makes it fun. Like some people are like, when you first get a deck, leave it out in the moonlight to charge. Like there's all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I think I staged it. I don't really have moonlight that enters my apartment. I ain't got access to the moon, sorry. I wish I had, I wish I had a moonlight just coming in so I could charge my phone. It would be sick. Someone somewhere is selling portable moon chargers.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Right. Oh, absolutely. And if not, you're welcome. I love that. I think charging your stuff in the moonlight, if you don't have a small apartment, I think that you should go for it. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:14:39 It can't hurt. The moon is very special. It really is. It's really cool. They definitely, definitely believe in the moon in this deck. The moon is very special. It really is. It's really cool. They definitely, definitely believe in the moon in this deck. Like, the moon, like, changes your feelings. You can go through different cycles. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So, I'm going to pull me first. Okay. Go ahead. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And sometimes how I do this is I'll, like, spread it out and then pull from that or I'll do numbers. Oh, okay. Like you can – I'll go through the deck and count off numbers for me.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Like maybe I like woke up with like the number five. That's just also my favorite number. Or I'll do like when I had my wedding, I was doing numbers of my wedding and I was pulling the same cards all the time. Which was tens, which is our completion cards. And it was like celebration, marriage, wedding. I was pulling the same cards all the time, which was tens, which is our completion cards. And it was like celebration, marriage, wedding. I was like,
Starting point is 00:15:29 okay, wow. Okay. Universe. Yeah. Okay. Sometimes I'll pull the same card like every day. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And this is after you shuffle. Yeah. Oh, spooky. So what's today's date today? Oh, it doesn't matter because this is going to be, well,
Starting point is 00:15:42 that's, that's fine. So we're recording this. Um, guess what? It's the fine. So we're recording this. Guess what? It's the fifth. So we're recording this kind of early. It's the fifth.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We're trying to get ahead on some of these podcasts. Ooh, fifth is my favorite number. It is the fifth as of recording this. You know what? Let's just do five, five, and five. Great. So I'm going to count three, four, five. So I have the whole deck in front of me, and I'm going to count. Three, four, five. So I have the whole deck in front of me, and I'm just counting fives. So you're dropping four cards, and then the fifth card is the one that you pull.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yep, and I'm setting them up in order into threes. So the first one is my past, the middle one is the present, and the third one is my future. Great. One, two, three, four, five. five okay i have all three cards laid out and again you can like spread them out and pull from that okay it depends on whatever you guys want to do okay okay so with past present future i usually like to flip them over one at a time just because sometimes i suspense like it's too much yeah oh also with this deck another tarot thing is some tarot
Starting point is 00:16:45 decks do reversals so if you flip it and it's upside down like uno there's another reverse i gotta draw to the card skip two skip two oh we'll put a plus four here the wild god dang it i guess i'll make my own how was tarot iot? I lost. I got a wild card, so I guess it was choose your own adventure, and blue fucked me over. Why are you doing all this cocaine? I got a wild card. I can do whatever today. That's what the tarot lady said.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, basically, tarot can be whatever you want it to be. You can play with Uno. I'm just kidding. So the first card is my past, so how I see my past or whatever i need to remember about that so this deck does not do reversals they just chill but reversals are usually inner like that's an inner thing that you're thinking about and uh up upright is that's
Starting point is 00:17:39 like outer world is affecting you interesting So reversals is really inner. Upright is outer. The tarot reading I got had reversals because there was a card that was upside down and she was like, oh, that's upside down. That probably means something. And I remember at the time being like, oh yeah, I can see why that's that way. There's specific meanings for it,
Starting point is 00:17:57 but sometimes if you just look at it and you don't have like a book that says all the meanings, you can just think that that's like an inner thing. Okay. Okay, so my first card oh okay i got a 20 which is a major arcana so if they're numbers there's no suits here so there's no earth wind water fire and it's the priestess okay i'm so sorry uh hello does do i look like the priestess um i was jackie literally going to say, is this you on my card? You're not watching the video version?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Okay. I look like the priestess out in these streets. Yes. The priestess is in the garden by the moonlight getting charged up. Your past is Jackie. Your present is Jackie. Your future is Jackie. It's kind of amazing because the pass card is the priestess
Starting point is 00:18:45 and she's standing in between this river, this little water from a well, and on the right side is roses, on the left side is white roses. She's got a little cute frog and she's just, are you, is that a drum? Is that a? Hey, it's whatever I want it to be.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And look at that dress. And you have half moons on it. And you're holding your chest. And there's a full moon behind her. A full moon behind her. That's a stunning card. Fully charged. Okay, so I guess priestess is my past,
Starting point is 00:19:15 which could mean I was a priestess back in the day, or the vibe of priestess is me. So since we're a little bit low on time and also like if you want this deck, there's a full reading on exactly what the Priestess is. But I'm going to read the essence of the card and the counsel that it gives me. Great.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So the Priestess is a major arcana. So this was like a major life theme for me in the past. The essence of this is women's mysteries. Whoa. Jackie? Jackie Uwe. Okay, mysteries in between. This is insane that it says in between because my best
Starting point is 00:19:56 friend just released a single called In Between and we've been talking about it, which is just like this kind of gray area where you're like, I don't know what's going on, but it feels good, it feels sad, but it also feels like kind of cool. And it's the in between. So self-knowledge, magic, manifestation, wisdom, prophecy, destiny, spiritual leadership, sacred sight. OK, so that's the essence of this card.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Basically, Jackie, your counsel is when you encounter the priestess she will ask you what do you want to know think carefully about your answer what do you really need to know to create the future that you long for the priestess points to your heart the answer you're seeking is already within honor all that's brought to you to the to this moment of self-awareness with love compassion and acceptance the future is unfolding like a red rose blooming in the moonlight your magic is returning oh okay this is pretty this actually this actually means kind of a lot to me um like kind of embracing my womanhood embracing like this part about me, definitely like some things going on with me,
Starting point is 00:21:07 like womanly, like not pregnant. Don't think, don't worry about that. But like, I just got married. Like I'm embracing like my womanhood, menstrual,
Starting point is 00:21:18 everything. And I feel like this card is kind of that. Do you know what I mean? Your magic is returning. Okay. Pretty sick. That's my past. What do you know what I mean? Your magic is returning. Okay, pretty sick. That's my past. What do you guys think about that? I, well, I was like, I always.
Starting point is 00:21:33 First of all, it's Jackie way. As a priestess, I was like, I do be walking up to people and I'm like, so what's your passion? What are you about? What are your dreams? This also could be kind of connected to you right now, too. That you're here. No, wait.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It says, but that's your past. That's your past. So this is my past. But it's also a major life theme. Right. OK. So it's a past that could be, like, still lingering with me. But it's also, like, could be, like, months ago,
Starting point is 00:22:01 which is very much when I experienced, like, a new kind of lease on like womanhood. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Awesome. That's a good one. That's a really good one.
Starting point is 00:22:11 How high do the numbers go? I didn't know they went up to 20. I thought they went up to 10. Forever. No. I got 1,050 once. So the suits go up to 10. The minor arcana, the suits, the earth, water, air, fire.
Starting point is 00:22:26 The major arcana goes up to 21. Technically 20, and then the pilgrims slash the fool. And then you get the wild card or reverse. Go back to the start. But the, no, it goes up to 21, and then it also, it goes from zero to 21, because zero is the fool, which is, in this one, it's the pilgrim, which is like, the fool is basically like a guy jumping off the cliff
Starting point is 00:22:52 with like a little dog and he has got like a little like thing of travel and it's like, here we go. So if I get that card, it's like, you're a dumbass. No. Sorry, you're a, we got the total loser card. Yeah, exactly. It's more of like your inner child.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Okay. But also, yeah, for you, maybe it might be dumbass. Okay, good to know. Okay, now it's time to choose my second card, which is the middle card, which is my present card. Ooh, okay, I've never pulled this card before. It's a six of water. So water is a minor arcana, one of the suits.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So water also has a very specific meaning. So what I'm seeing is, what is that? A duck? Is it a turtle? That is not a turtle, y'all. Here, can I see? That is like a duck with a beak. Mallard?
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah, that's like, oh, I forget what they call them, but they're, yeah, they're. Yeah, what is that? Oh. It's not a loon, is it? No. But it's like a lake. It's not a loon, is it? No. But it's like a lake. It's like a bird that chills in a lake and swims around like a duck. It's a bird that chills in a lake like a duck.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Like a mallard. And it'll actually probably tell me when I pull to it. And it's swimming, ducking down, and about to eat a fish. Yeah, yeah. So this is six of water. So remember, they're one through ten, or ace through ten. And this one is, I'm sorry, one through ten. And this one is, no, no, no, it's ace.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Ace through ten is the one. So this is six. So this is like kind of middle. Five and seven can be kind of intense numbers. Six is like a bit more of a relief. Water is emotions, heart, love, and dreams. This is my present. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Okay. Okay. But does it say what that bird is? That's the real question. Yes. What if the reader's like, we have no idea what the fuck this thing is. This is bird that chills on lake. This is mallard? We think mallard?
Starting point is 00:24:43 Mallard? Mallard? A.K.A. Cormorant. Oh, that was my second guess. Do you guys know what that is? I was going to say that. Yeah. So this is a Cormorant, and it's plunging into a darting school of fish.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Okay. The water, the seabird's feathers, the fish's scales, bubbles up. Bubbles of rising air and unexpected light all glisten sparkle and move oh okay so the essence of this card is dive deep let go go with the flow unexpected change okay that's pretty fucked up because i actually pulled a card and it was all about like you are very comfortable right now but change is a coming i pulled a card this this morning like a morning card because instead of doing morning pages I will just pull it saves a lot of time so this card is confirming that so this card is
Starting point is 00:25:36 literally confirming that and the council I'm so sorry Jackie's phone phone I'm sorry shit my pants that was just so crazy it's okay come in i'm shitting my pants so just so you all know who can't hear us or who can't see us jackie shitter pants okay the counsel for this is you cannot redirect the river of life instead plunge in surrender to it dissolve in it allow the molecules of your expectations plans and intentions to mix with the waters flowing all around you let Let go and let your heart become a vessel of understanding. Let it hold the memories of your life.
Starting point is 00:26:10 To remember, you must allow the waters of life to flow through you. Begin now. Fill the waters of your life with stories before the cormorant appears. Oh. So you're the fish. I'm the fish
Starting point is 00:26:25 which is crazy because fish don't know that they're swimming in water so I no they never experience anything else they don't know
Starting point is 00:26:32 that they're swimming in water until you hook them with a fishing line and then they're like what the fuck is this they come back and they're like do you know we're in water
Starting point is 00:26:39 hey dude do you know you're in water okay Mike you're crazy oh my god that's a big ass Cormorant what is this so basically the Cormorant Hey, dude, you know your water? Okay, Mike, you're crazy. Oh, my God. That's a big-ass cormorant. What is it? So basically, the cormorant, I'm probably saying this wrong,
Starting point is 00:26:51 is the unexpected change. Yeah. And as a fish, you just have to surrender to the tides and where water and life is flowing. So basically, let go, go with it, and a cormorant is about to come up and snatch me to a new place. Maybe. Maybe I'm gonna go to a fishbowl.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Dude, you're Nemo. As long as I'm not Dory. I looked, where am I? That's Dory not accepting. She's just like literally lost. Okay, so I'm about to pull my third card. So I got major arcana and a Minor Arcana of Water. And my third card is my future card.
Starting point is 00:27:30 So this could be like tomorrow or like a year down. A year. Okay, so I got it upside down, but I'm going to turn it back because that's... Oh my God. So it is a Major Arcana, number 21, the last one, council of all beings. Girl! I don't know what that means, but it seems big.
Starting point is 00:27:50 You're going on a cruise. There is a whale on that card! Are you guys cruise people? I have, I've never been on a cruise. I wanna go on one, one time. But it has to be with the right group of people. Yeah, I don't know. It is not for me.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You been on one? Yes, I have. I went to Alaska. I felt trapped, genuinely. And the food made me like, I had a brick in my stomach. We were all like, where's the laxatives? That was basically it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:20 So if you guys have a Rider-Waite tarot deck, which is like the original deck, this card that I pulled, Council of All Beings, is the Judgment card. Aye. Okay? So it's the Judgment card. So this is my future card. Sounds pretty fun already.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'm like, the whale ate the comorant. Comorant? Comorant. Comorant. Comorant. It's inside the whale. Okay, so this is what this card looks like. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's like a starry night, the tree of life. We got some cute animals. We got a giraffe in the background, a bear, a hawk, a lion, and then a whale underneath. You guys want to pass around the card? Okay, so Council of all beings. The essence of this card, urgency, summoning, connection, community, maturity, readiness, reverence, kindness. Okay, so the middle, so the, okay, so this is like, okay, so the first card is all about like feeling the spirituality, like the magic in my womanhood. The second card is about like let go, release, surrender. And the third card is about a connection, maturity, readiness, and community. The first, this is the council. The first thing magic changes is you.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's time to attend to the, so maybe this is the change it was talking about right it's time to attend to the magic within and around you pay attention to signs and synchronicities i see synchronicities all the time because they reveal the emerging pattern of your destiny realms of spirit are open to you and there are guides and allies who will help you. The teachers you are seeking know that magic isn't made with supernatural or willful manipulation of unseen forces. You won't find it in someone else's incantations or recipes. Open your heart and discover what real magic is, the power of divine love flowing into you and through you into the world. The council advises you
Starting point is 00:30:27 that the future deepens on your ability to cultivate that love with yourself, with Mother Earth, and with all her peoples. Wow. I love that.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Oh, I love this. This makes sense because it's like all the beings in one. So basically this, to me this card is like this is the change that's coming is understanding that everyone around
Starting point is 00:30:48 you is all connected to like the magic that is in you that's how I took it what do you guys think so yeah are you saying it's going to kind of be more of an internal change is coming like how you view things will change that's how I took it
Starting point is 00:31:04 your connection with people is about to strengthen. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely about maturity and connection with people. So like letting go of old beliefs that probably hold me back or make me get kind of like spikes out at people. Like I feel like this is more about accepting
Starting point is 00:31:23 and journeying into another path yeah when you said the power of divine love flowing into you and threw you into the world i was like well that's amanda i was like oh i just feel like you have such oh my god so so jackie's the past shane is the present and i'm the actual future no you're the fish with me you're d Dory. I'm also a fish, chilling. You're the turtle. You're the surf turtle in Finding Nemo. Every single card is like,
Starting point is 00:31:52 and you got the surf turtle again. Wow, fifth. I didn't know there were five of them in this deck. Dude. So crazy. Are there bad cards and good cards? Are there cards that are like, this card is bad?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Good question. There's no way for this to be good. I feel like there, I can't say that there are bad cards and good cards. There are more like warning cards. Yeah. Like something, like unexpected change or you're like, you need rest.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Or you're trying to do it all. Stay indoors today. Yeah. There's no like, stay indoors, a tsunami's coming. Okay. But there is like, hey, watch out, a bird is coming's coming. Yeah. Okay. But there is like hey watch out a bird is coming to eat you up. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Or there is like if you keep on this road you are gonna exhaust yourself and lose your way. Got it. Right. Or if you keep these old beliefs
Starting point is 00:32:35 that are holding you back you might not be able to go down the path. Yeah. They're more like warning cards. Depends on the deck though to be honest.
Starting point is 00:32:44 This deck feels like I'm a witch and woman, which is incredible, and I feel like we do need to focus on nature and the earth, rather than like, that's what this card's about. It's all within us, it's all around us, use the resources that we have. But some decks are dark. I have a pagan deck, and it can be kind of dark.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I don't want a dark deck. No. I kind of love it, though. There's not like you're going to die today. You're going to die in seven days. But it's like. First card. You hate your parents.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Watch out, your parents. You hate them. And it's just a gamer announcer. announcer okay so those are my cards pretty those are pretty like spiritually cool yeah that felt very you yeah that felt very me i mean to be fair if jackie pulled the card that looked like jackie i would be freaking out a little bit more i'd be like okay that's weird i love it That's ookie, ookie, ookie. I love it. Yes, those feel very me. I would say certain numbers, like five and seven, can be pretty, those are like, stop. Like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Like, this is a warning. You are ignoring messages. Like, boom. All right. Which is crazy. That makes me a little nervous. No, no. Well, it's specific to you, too.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Okay. It might be like, Shane, you're the turtles. Find your way, I guess. You're the turtle, man. Yeah. How are you feeling, Jackie? I feel good. I mean, I'm still thinking about your last card and the future,
Starting point is 00:34:16 because even learning that Amanda pulls cards is a new revelation. At least, I been working we got hired in the same month yeah we did yeah so it's been three years it's only four years in november stop bro um but this is like the i just found this out about amanda and i feel like slowly but surely like amanda is like opening up more but she's also so loving and always i don't not to get too deep in but you know what I mean? Like, like,
Starting point is 00:34:46 like this is something you're so passionate about. And finding this out was like so cool. I know. So it is like, I know. I don't know. Thank you. I get pretty,
Starting point is 00:34:55 I realized that I like, I, I guess I get pretty protective or like, I don't really open up about my personal life when I'm at work. Because it helps me to like be professional sometimes yeah but like I guess tarot has just always been a part of my life that when I shared it with you guys I was like oh wait people are into this because you know sometimes people like they don't want they don't want to talk about spirituality they don't want you to
Starting point is 00:35:21 feel like you're pushing something but that's why I feel like tarot is so universal. It's like every card is universal to you. And it's something that I love to do. And as long as people are cool with it, I love sharing it. Yeah, I also wouldn't let anybody pull cards for me, personally. Really? No. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Well, I'm honored. Oh, no. I'm honored. So you wouldn't let Shane pull a card for you? Shane could pull for me. Look, there's some witches I know. Oh, no. I am never coming to their full moon ceremony.
Starting point is 00:35:53 No. Sometimes, witch is a loose term, because sometimes you're like, um, what's going on? Yeah. There's some witches out here in LA. I don't know. I feel like, yeah, there's probably a lot of different, different kinds. Yeah, of witches.
Starting point is 00:36:07 But I've learned through the internet that I'm like, oh, there's a huge community and it is very different from what I grew up assuming. Yeah. And also, I feel like I'm from Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:36:18 very close to Salem. Like, I grew up in spooky Massachusetts with like fog over the ocean. Massachusetts is very witchy. That makes sense. It's like old school Salem witch trials, but also very witchy. Yeah. Okay, whoever can't see this, Jackie has gorgeous nails.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, we're freaking witches over here in Massachusetts. We're wicked witches. We're Boston witches. Wait, that should be a bar. Welcome to Wicked Witchy. Wicked Witch Trap. You fucking loser. You fucking loser.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's all blood colored because we're witches. Maybe there is. I mean, wicked. Hey, you pulled the seven of patriots. You got Tom Brady. Hey, you got tickets for me in your pocket. Give them up. That's what the card said.
Starting point is 00:37:04 That's very Boston. Seven of patriots. Oh Give them up. That's what the card said. That's very Boston. Seven of Patriots. Oh, my God. I forget what his number is. A tarot deck of all Patriots players. Oh, that's fine. That's probably a thing. Probably a thing.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It's probably a thing. The ideas we're giving people today? Crazy. I love it. Okay, so. All right, Jackie is about to pull three cards so go like think about your past think about old jackie past jackie and pull a card shane's not looking i don't know why it's like i'm now i'm now thinking about my past don't get your past all over my it's all gonna be like turtle
Starting point is 00:37:42 if there's a turtle in one of the ones I pull, I am gonna be scared. I'm a skeptic, but I also am very easily like scared by stuff like that. Okay, now pull your present card. And your future card. And it doesn't matter how you pull. Sometimes I like to listen to music that's like on my mind when I pull, or I think heavily about like good feelings. So it's all up to you.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Okay. All right. Okay. Should I put these back? No, you can keep them out. Okay. So you can flip your first card, which is your pass card.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Okay, that was my nervous giggle. This is what Jackie was like when I was pulling her cards. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Roll a coaster. Ooh, let me see. Craftsman of air. Okay, so that doesn't look like you. No.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Will you describe what's on the card? It looks like a fucking nerd doing math. Dang it, I'm a nerd. It looks like a freaking nerd man. This is you in the past. You were a nerd in the past. Was I a white man in the past?
Starting point is 00:38:55 You were a white man. I could be like a philosopher. A man of the stars. I love it. A physician. No, no, a physicist. Yeah. Okay, she definitely wasn't a nerd in the past.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Let me see. Okay, so this is, oh, cool. Okay, so you're holding some cool designs. You're cool. I mean, you're not cool, but you're holding cool stuff. So you're a craftsman of air. So air is a minor arcana. It's one of the suits.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It corresponds to intelligence, intuition, language, and communication. So normally in the old deck, they would do king and queen. So craftsman in this deck is like their version of king, even though they don't do king or queens. So like the top is goddess. I hear you. Top is goddess. And right next to the goddess is the
Starting point is 00:39:45 craftsman okay it doesn't mean it's masculine or feminine that's just how they mark it down okay so craftsman of air is your past oh all right essence study hidden truths divine expressions and embodiments here's your counsel Magic is more than special effects. It's more than formulas and incantations. Though those are useful in achieving self-mastery, magic will not grant you the power to control the world, but it may grant you the ability to understand it and yourself. And with understanding will come reverence, respect, and responsibility.
Starting point is 00:40:25 A witch is a craftsman who knows that the first thing magic changes is oneself. Oh, okay. So this is kind of a complex card, might I say? Intelligent and intuitive, instinctive and contemplative, the mind works best when it's open. Okay, the world will open for a craftsman who knows that nature doesn't require mastering once the mind has been mastered. Ooh. Okay, so this is kind of a complicated card. I've never pulled this card.
Starting point is 00:40:56 What are you thinking? The way it seems complicated seems exactly like the thoughts in my head. Oh. Yeah. Some might say I'm a bitch of an overthinker. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And maybe I'm a bitch of a control freak. Yes. I don't know. Okay. Me thinks I'm freaking out right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I also think I'm like pretty, I feel like I have a pretty strong intuition in general. Yes. I don't think I'm connected by any means, but I do have a really strong intuition.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So some of the words. That's why I love pulling people's cards because they are so unique to them. I mean, yes, these can be seen as universal ideas, but specifically, we pulled completely different past cards. And that's why I feel like this one's complicated because I don't relate to it at all. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I'm definitely a thinker, but like this seems like you think about everything in one, like in an instant. Yeah, girl. Oh, okay, great. Girl, the anxiety courses through my bones. This could be my present card. No, this is your pass card.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It says a witch is a craftsman who knows that the first thing magic changes is oneself. Wow. So this is a pass card, but it's kind of leaning towards your present that it's like, all right. Yeah. Formulas, all these things, isn't the way towards magic. Yeah. It's changing oneself, changing your idea. So maybe this is kind of trickling in.
Starting point is 00:42:25 That's so, honestly that's super wild because I've been working really hard the past almost year now to really look at my habits, patterns, and the things that I do and the rules I have to make myself feel safe. So that's why it rings really true to me. I've been working a lot with my therapist about this stuff. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Obviously without getting too deep about it, but this is a very, very accurate card for me. Oh, amazing. Yeah, it's kind of wild. Maybe that means it is something that you've been working on and it is a bit in the past. Yeah, it honestly is. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, I've been trying to release a lot of control and just kind of like go with the flow. I love that. I ask a lot of questions. I've been trying to ask less questions and just kind of like. Go with it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you are not a white man in his study anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Nah, man. I'm a black girl. Sorry, Shane. I'm a black girl on the moon. It's okay. My journey is to remain a white. A white man in his study. A white man in his study.
Starting point is 00:43:31 That is my journey. So the next card that you're going to pull is your present card. So remember that is like a fleeting, more not a major theme in your life, but like minor. That's wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Oh, cool. Oh my god. Wait, you have another air card. I got another air card. It's a little porcupine. Look at this guy. So wait, you got another air card. And look, the tree is all like split. What is this, two of air?
Starting point is 00:43:57 The tree looks like lungs. Two of air. That's so true. OK, will you describe it? Like, the tree looks like lung, yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to jump. I'm sorry for putting my- Guys, don't say sorry, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I was putting my oils on the card. I was like, girl. All these cards are oily. Yum, yum, yum. Okay, so Shane saw lungs in the trees, what do you see? Yeah, I see a splitting. I don't know open it ooh
Starting point is 00:44:25 maybe it's the splitting of your past self moving into that's right future self that white guy he's getting out of here that white guy's getting
Starting point is 00:44:32 it's more of the porcupine yes okay this you're actually gonna love this so this is two of air air is again intellectual your mind
Starting point is 00:44:40 it's kind of amazing that it's connected to the first card I just want to point out really quick that's a I believe that's a hedgehog oh it's connected to the first card. I just want to point out really quick, I believe that's a hedgehog. Oh, it's a hedgehog? Oh, why did I say porcupine?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Because it looks like it could have spikes on it. But it's okay. He's right, he's right, he's right. This is a hedgehog. God, killed it. Love it.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Okay, so two of air. This is about vulnerability. Present. Pay attention. Things are more than they seem. A brown and prickly chestnut trembles, rolls and uncurls into a hedgehog. The hedgehog breathes
Starting point is 00:45:12 its tiny lungs reflected in the great tree towering above it. Okay, Shane. Crushed it. Go off, King. The breath of life moves back and forth between them. Two crows sitting high up in the branches look down with curiosity i saw the crows and there's a crow in this one too oh my god they
Starting point is 00:45:29 too are breathing with the tree everything is connected by the breath of life leaves stir gently in the wind that carries connects and whispers which is wisdom the divine is a breath away okay so you're getting closer to the magic. Openness, connection, trust yourself, trust life. Counsel. Okay, this is perfect for you right now. It's time to let go, to trust, to allow yourself to be vulnerable, which I know can be very universal, but to be honest, I feel like it's so connected, and it's air as well,
Starting point is 00:46:00 which is this is about your intellect. Breathe and the trees breathe with you, exchanging the breath of life with you. Breathe and be aware that you are always nurtured by the world to which you are connected. It's time to open to the safety of ever present divine love. All you need to do is breathe it in. So work less in your mind. Yeah. And just take it in and breathe in
Starting point is 00:46:25 what is. Don't try to make up what's going on. We should figure out what a hedgehog, like, how a hedgehog is connected to Jackie.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Well, the lungs, you know, the lungs are, but the hedgehog, like, I don't know much about hedgehogs. I don't know much
Starting point is 00:46:39 about hedgehogs. Shane? They're just really cute, so maybe that's how it's connected. But they can be spiky. But they roll around. Yeah, they're just really cute. So maybe that's how it's connected. But they can be spiky. But they roll around. Yeah, they roll around.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And I don't know. And they can be blue and very fast. They can be blue? Well, Sonic. Oh. Get the fuck out of here. What if it was just Sonic on the car? Wait, what if it's Sonic the Hedgehog?
Starting point is 00:47:02 What the frick? So you could literally, so basically your present is Sonic the Hedgehog. That's pretty sick, dude. That's honestly the coolest thing. Oh, I was gonna make such a bad reference. I said, gotta blast. I'm like, girl, that's Jimmy Nugent. That is,
Starting point is 00:47:12 as Sonic the Hedgehog once said, gotta blast. But that's good. Breathe in whatever's coming in right now. You know what? You just went for it. Accept it. Accept it.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Don't fight it. I love it. Okay, so that's your, so you're kind of moving away from the intense control and thoughts and like so many things going on at once. I mean, look at this dude. He's got like 100 inventions going on.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, literally. Is that a crow there? It's a crow there. Yeah, so none of your cards had crows. No, I had zero crows. But we've got, Mine are watery. We've got multiple crows already.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I got three crows so far. We are actively counting crows. Dang, maybe, maybe, What's a crow mean? Crows, you can make friends with crows already. I got three crows so far. We are actively counting crows. Dang. Maybe, maybe, maybe make... What's a crow mean? Crows? You can make friends with crows. Okay. Crows, you can like bring shiny things to crows. I did start watching Demon Slayer
Starting point is 00:47:54 recently. Okay. So crows, those crows, they be bringing messages. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Wow, how far are you into Demon Slayer? About seven episodes in. Wow, way to go. Good. Get out of your head, stop thinking, you into Demon Slayer? About seven episodes in. Wow, way to go. Good. Get out of your head, stop thinking, and watch Demon Slayer.
Starting point is 00:48:09 That's exactly right. Okay, future card. Okay, future card. You're like, get out of your head and watch Demon Slayer. Watch or Demon Slayer. And that is the only thing. Yeah, exactly. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:48:21 What the hell? Okay, another air card. All right. Seven of air. So Jackie got all air cards. That's wild. It looks like it could be a crow feather. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's a lot of feathers, man. Whoa. Okay, so it's like an open field. Look at the trees. The trees almost look like they're breathing, too. It's a bunch of fields. It's very cohesive. This is a very cohesive little pool I got over here.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You have an aesthetic going. Yes. And it's literally all air, which is language, communication, intelligence, intuition, the mind. So you must be really thinking about the mind. Okay, so seven of air. Seven. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Okay, so seven is the witch's ladder. A witch's ladder is a spell to make a dream come true. Seven feathers, each from a different bird, also birds, are knotted to a cord then tied to a tree branch. Each feather is a charm free to flutter and spin, yet all are connected to the earth
Starting point is 00:49:21 by an enchanted hag stone tied at the end of each cord, at the end of the cord. At the end of the cord. Each feather has come to a witch as a sign and a signal and an answer. Ooh, these are your signs. A witch's ladder gives them all back with gratitude for the guidance given by a wise and loving universe. Okay, your essence for the future. Clues, signs, insight. Magic is afoot. Magic is afoot.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Magic is afoot. Be careful. Be careful. The magic is afoot. Witch's ladder. All right. Here's your counsel. Messages are arriving from the sacred. Ooh. Signs and synchronicities are offering guidance
Starting point is 00:50:02 to help you manifest your future. Pay attention. If guidance isn't you manifest your future. Pay attention. If guidance isn't followed, it's no longer given. See, seven, this is seven. It's a bit of a warning card, but they like, I can tell that this deck isn't that harsh on that, but seven is always a warning card. So if the universe gives you a sign and you ignore it,
Starting point is 00:50:21 the universe will be like, fine, no more signs. Fine, fuck off. No more signs, bitch. I freaking gave you a sign. Done. I'm done. I'm gonna go watch TV. I'm gonna go watch Demon Slayer. I'm gonna go watch Demon Sl signs. Fine, fuck off. No more signs, bitch. I freaking gave you a sign. Done. Yeah, basically they leave you. I'm done. I'm gonna go watch TV. I'm gonna go watch Demon Slayer. I'm gonna go watch Demon Slayer.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I'm the universe. If guidance isn't followed, it's no longer given. But offering thanks sets magic in motion. So gratitude keeps it going. A witch's ladder asks and offers simultaneously. Honor the divine laws of nature and magic happens. A witch's ladder asks and offers. Okay, so just, girl,
Starting point is 00:50:48 just pay attention and have gratitude. Magic is a foot. I said I wasn't going to cry and I won't. I'm not going to because it's Smosh Mouth. Oh, what is it? Smosh Cast? Smosh Mouth? I like that.
Starting point is 00:51:03 That's actually a really good name, Jackie. Did you get that from the cards? That's the new name. I think so. The cards. Y'all seen The Princess and the Frog? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:11 The cards. The cards. The cards. Guys, should we name? Well, yeah, it's good. Smosh Mouth. Smosh Mouth. I like it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 What do you guys think? Think about it. Yeah. That's what's going on. Yeah. think so yeah that's your that's what's going on yeah so like basically your intellect went from like so intensely full to okay i'm gonna let go be a little hedgehog and breathe it in to now it's like there's some signs girl please do not miss it yeah pay attention just say thank you for it don't overthink yeah instead of trying to like um mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Magic is afoot.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Magic is afoot! I love that. Yup, I absolutely identify with these cards. My takeaway from this is like, I can be in my head a lot, so I guess just in general trying to like, get out of my head a little bit and allow myself to be in the space that I'm in, be thankful for the space I'm in, be thankful for the space I'm in,
Starting point is 00:52:06 practice gratitude for the things I'm, the space that I'm in and allow positive energy to come in instead of me trying to like think through it all and try to figure it out. Totally. And just be open to things. And make friends with a crow.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah. I gotta get a bird. What is going on? I need, I got two cats, I gotta make a bird. Make alliances with the right birds. That's perfect. We're gonna leave that right here.
Starting point is 00:52:28 No, no. Guys, how do you say it? Comerants? Honestly, I was like Amaranth. Comerants. Amaranth. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:38 So here's my thought. These are our cards but should we throw them back in the deck in case... I don't know what that card was. I know. This is a card for you because it just fell out.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah. When it falls out the deck, that's some shit. That's another thing. That's a very specific thing to tarot. If you start to pull, sometimes when I shuffle and a card falls out, that's your card. So this is one of your cards.
Starting point is 00:53:01 What if you're just drunk? Still your card. Look, man, this card fell out. I had nothing to do with it, man. Still your cards. What if you're just drunk? Still your card, baby. Look, man, this card fell out. I had nothing to do with it, man. Still your card. All right, fine. So what do you want it to be? Past, present, or future?
Starting point is 00:53:12 What are you feeling? Let's make that, screw it, let's make that the future. You know what? High stakes. Do you want numbers, or do you want me to lay it out? Just lay it out. Lay it out for me. You lay it out so you can touch the cards.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Also, people who pull tarot believe that if you're pulling for someone that they should touch the cards. But also what I do is if I'm pulling for someone, I have them play a song that they really love. Oh, that's so sweet. And then I pull their cards. Or like a song that's been on their mind recently. I did this very badly. No, no, no. So normally it's really hard to do it on this like wood table. You do it kind I did this very badly. No, no, no. So normally,
Starting point is 00:53:45 it's really hard to do it on this like wood table. You do it kind of like this? Yeah. That seems very, kind of mess it around. Don't lose that. I'm not gonna lose that.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Okay. You touched it again. So I've got all these cards spread out everywhere. I've made a big old mess. So choose your past card. My past. Oh, I'm so excited. I'm filing through it like, where's my past?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Oh God. This card is my past. Love it. So we'll go left to right? Yes. So now you just need your present card. This almost fell... If you can't see this, all the cards are on one another. But I love it. This is fell. Let's see. If you can't see this, all the cards are on one another.
Starting point is 00:54:26 But I love it. This is scary. Good. There's a lot of cards all around here. It's like 52 card pickers. Nothing's standing out to me quite yet. I'll just pick one. I'm picking one.
Starting point is 00:54:37 All right. Middle, middle. Middle. Holler. OK. OK. So you can leave them. Here's this mess right here.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I love the way you work. I love the way you work. I love the way you work. Yeah, just pat it down. I hope it's all fire. I hope it's all fire. So. Okay. I'll put them all in the middle there.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Perfect. Okay. Yeah. All right, so. Your first card. This is passed, right? Is your passed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:01 The skeptic. You got the dumbass card. There is no card in there that says dumbass I promise you it's just fully the chosen it's just like this is you in middle school I'm like yeah it was
Starting point is 00:55:13 that would be insane if you chose I have a movie deck that I could bring one time really movie yeah movie stars you're past
Starting point is 00:55:19 John Cusack that would be sick alright let me see okay so Cusack. That would be sick. All right. Let me see. Okay, so. Did you not just say fire? I'm going to be a fire god! All right, so.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I want to establish. I'm so sorry. Woo! Jackie is standing up. Woo! Jackie's standing up out of frame. Yeah, she's freaking out. She did say that you were going to pull a fire card.
Starting point is 00:55:47 She said all fire cards, so we'll still see. Don't take this away from me, Shane. Alright, Shane, tell me what you feel and what you're looking at. Three of fire. Okay, so the three of fire, it looks like it's a swamp. It looks like a bog or like, you know, just a wetlands.
Starting point is 00:56:04 But there's some flames guiding the way. But otherwise, it looks very dark and foggy. So the path is like, it's like lit. But, you know, you're gonna have to get wet. It's not gonna, there's not like a clear path beyond these lights that are kind of like scattered about. So it's not like, here's this line. It's like, oh, you kind of have to follow that candlelight way over there.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And yeah, and there's even, yeah, some of them are so faint that you don't see them. But, because you can clearly see three flames. But there's another one that I see kind of by this log right there. And there's some flowers on the side. There's some flowers. Looks like, are those lotuses?
Starting point is 00:56:45 Definitely swampy. And yeah, the trees, there's no leaves on the trees. They all look, no, there's some tiny leaves. I love that.
Starting point is 00:56:55 But it's very green. Yeah. But it's still very dark. It's still dark. And it's three. It's three of fire. So it's like the beginning. So right,
Starting point is 00:57:02 this is a minor arcana. That's your pass. And remember, it goes from ace to 10. So ace is technically like their one. So three is like a beginning of whatever this journey is. So this is your pass. Three of fire, lights in the darkness. That's what this card is about.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah. Yes. I've always followed the light, the darkness. There's chosen darkness there's chosen okay mirrored in gloom the swamp is dark and dangerous three willow the wisps
Starting point is 00:57:34 I don't know what that is they're kind of like a spirit like a ghost type of situation glistening in the water do they light the way through the shadowy unknown or lure the unwary traveler into a treacherous bog?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Do you trust the pixie lights to guide you? In old tales, being pixie-led is often considered a bad thing, but not by those who have followed and returned changed.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Okay. So your essence is uncertainty, intuition, faith, guidance. So just getting from that is like, do you follow the lights? Well, some of them say don't follow those pixie-led lights because it's dangerous,
Starting point is 00:58:16 but not the people who come back and feel changed. Here's your counsel. In the face of the unknown, you may feel anxious and afraid, but is a safe passage what you actually need? This is your moment to let the pixie lights... Jackie's just over here like...
Starting point is 00:58:33 This is why I love reading with Jackie, because Jackie's like, oh, go off. Go off, girl. Go off, girl. Read him. But is a safe passage what you actually need? This is your moment to let the pixie lights lead you from the well-worn path into the wilderness it's in the dark wood where the straight way is
Starting point is 00:58:52 lost that we find ourselves it's scary and exciting but fear is only excitement that hasn't received permission whoa i like that yourself be guided. So fear is only excitement that hasn't received permission. That's actually sick. I love that. The way this book is written is unbelievable. And the art is amazing. Ooh, okay. So maybe in your past you had fear about like going down scary paths.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I mean, we all have fear. I was afraid of everything. Well path i mean we all i was afraid of everything well there we go i was afraid of absolutely everything yeah uh i mean uncertainty is certainly a good explanation uh explanation of my life i feel like i'm constantly like how the fuck am i here you know um i i've i've throughout most of my life i've i've hit periods where i'm like oh this is all gonna crumble and I'm gonna be screwed. And then I keep being like, I don't know what the hell. Yes. But I keep getting by, which is wild.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Let yourself be guided. That's why my eyes are so big. I'm like, let yourself be guided. That's like this one. That's cool. I like, you know, I'm also someone that fear can very much dictate me in bad ways, in ways that I feel trapped. And I'm like, oh, you know, I'm also someone that fear can very much dictate me, uh, in bad ways,
Starting point is 01:00:05 in ways that I feel trapped. And I'm like, Oh, I hate that. I let my fears take over. And I don't like the pixie lead. Well, but,
Starting point is 01:00:12 but, but, but I, I remember having like kind of a thought a few years ago of like, Oh, and I'm talking about existential fears, not like afraid of, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:24 you know, you know what I mean? Like I'm not afraid of snakes, but like afraid of, you know, you know, you know what I mean? Like I'm not afraid of snakes, but like, but whenever I feel a fear, that's when I know I have to do it. You know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:00:32 oh, I have to, that means I have to go through it. That's what has gotten you through then. Your permission, you're giving yourself permission. I don't always do it, but it's kind of like the,
Starting point is 01:00:41 of like, okay, I'm feeling this, I'm feeling this anxiety. It's more of an anxiety type of fear. Right. I got to push through and I just got to go do it. That means I got to do it.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And whenever I do, it's a very freeing feeling and it feels very good to push past that. Yeah. You've already been giving yourself that permission. Yeah. So that your fear is like an excitement. No, the image feels very reminiscent of my life. That's so cool. But in a, in a, in a very dramatic way.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Oh yeah. It's very dramatic. It's a swamp. My life has been very stupid and silly, but... It's swamp. You're the turtle who's like, look at that fire, bro. The swamp.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Okay, great. So let's pull your present card. Okay. Three for four. It's tense in here. Okay. Ooh. Tell me it's a fire card. That's this is chosen okay look at that that is a
Starting point is 01:01:29 chosen that is chosen there's there's a it's a two wolf moon okay not a three wolf moon that is a major and let me tell you how connected that is to the three of fire i'm geeked this is because i don't even need to look it up i'm'm going to, but that's a major arcana. The moon is all about the battle between the domesticated dog inside us all and the wild wolf also inside us all. That is the most chosen card I've ever seen in my life. Constantly battling. So it's a moon.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It's a war. Two wolves do battle. It's a crescent moon and a dog with a collar and a domesticated wolf. Also in what looks like a swamp, but it's like a lake. And then there's a bunch of otters, which represent the subconscious. Because the old deck has like a lobster coming out. So it's about dreams. It's about the moon.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Dude. And this is a major life theme for you. Okay. I'm so screaming. No, I love it. I mean, Greg doesn't love it, but I love it. Okay. I need to stop screaming. I'm so sorry. No, I love it. I mean, Greg doesn't love it, but I love it. Okay. This is a really cool card.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So remember, there's like a full description in this book, The Witch's Wisdom, but I'm just for time going to read the Essence and the Council. So Essence, mystery, wildness, physical instinct, liberated feminine power. Okay. Okay. Okay. So essence, mystery, wildness, physical instinct, liberated feminine power. Okay. Okay. So what I do know is that this is about the domesticated dog and the wild wolf inside of us all. And it's about following the wild. So when the moon appears and the wild calls, what will you choose?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Oh. The. Sorry. The illusory. How do you say this? Illusory. Okay. The illusory safety of your city tower,
Starting point is 01:03:16 the sanctuary of a witch's cottage with its tiny light shining in the forest. You can't pretend that's wildness. Howl at the moon. Race with the wolves. Swim with the otters. Fly with owls. Look back into the far distance and see the light from your cottage window. Feel a pang of sorrow for all that you have let go. Then turn to the moon above and feel a shiver of delight as you hear the answering howl of your companions. Watch the moon follow its rhythm in the sky. See how it pulls the tides
Starting point is 01:03:43 below. Feel that pull within you. Feel the moon in your body, in your heart, in your mind. When you choose to return to your cottage and community, you'll return changed. Whoa. You'll return changed. Free, whole, and wholly blessed by the moon. Okay, that's fucked up because the Three of Fire literally says
Starting point is 01:04:04 if you give yourself the permission to follow your fear and you go on the pixie-led fire path, you will return changed. And this literally says, when you choose to return your cottage and community, you'll return changed, free, whole, and holy. So I got a three followed by a four. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. So basically, follow the wild.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Do the thing that scares you. Give yourself permission to your fear. All right, I'm going to Burning Man. Oh, no. Oh, no. Whoa. Guys, we lost Shane in Burning Man. What did you pull in his cards?
Starting point is 01:04:39 He's following the wolf, man. He's following his wolf. He just howls. It's a bunch of TikTok videos of Shane in the distance. All these fans have pictures and videos of Shane just howling in the distance. Amanda's like, fuck, I should have never told him to follow the wolf. Never pull tarot for Shane. I'm about to be like, hey, Shane, you want to do this?
Starting point is 01:05:00 No, I think I'm okay. Bro, follow the wolf. Come on. Dude, we need to follow the wolf. Bro, follow the wolf. Remember to follow the wolf. Okay, I'm actually psyched. okay bro follow the wolf come on dude we need to follow the wolf bro follow the wolf remember to follow the wolf let's get Korean barbecue okay I'm actually psyched
Starting point is 01:05:08 Korean barbecue for the wolf for the wolf I'm psyched to see your future card that Chosen alright you pull it over so this is his last card his future card
Starting point is 01:05:16 this is the card that fell out of the deck while you were shopping I can't deal with this this is the card that fell out of the deck this is so stressful and it's a public bathroom.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Follow the wolf to the public bathroom. Okay, here we go. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Messenger of water. Oh my God. Okay, it's definitely a mermaid. Yeah. Merman. It could be a mermaid. Yeah. Merman. I mean, you don't see... It could be a merman. You don't see the bottom
Starting point is 01:05:48 half of that person. And is that like a seal? That looks like a seal to me or a sea lion, whatever. Ooh, maybe this is like your sign. This is what the wild is. So messenger of water
Starting point is 01:06:01 is a minor arcana. Is that five? I don't know what this is. There's no number. No, it's part of like the court. So the old deck has court cards, which are page, knight, queen, and king. So this is technically a court card, but they use messenger, witch, craftsman, and goddess instead. Oh, yeah. She is like a merperson because she has webbed hands.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Or he. Or he. They. Yeah. They are a mer-person because she has webbed hands. Or he. Or he. They. Yeah. They are a mer-person. So messenger of water? Messenger of water. Oh gosh, it feels like...
Starting point is 01:06:33 You have tons of water going on, P.S. Yeah, so it starts off with this swamp, then it goes to a lake, then it goes to the ocean. You're deep. Oh my God, so it goes to, you're following the path over the swamp, then it goes to you're on top of a ledge over
Starting point is 01:06:47 and now you're swimming in it. Now I'm fully in it, dude. Dude. I'm fully with the wolf. That's not a sea lion, dude. He called to the wild and we've lost him swimming. Sorry, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I'm the messenger of water now. Okay, this is the messenger of water. Water carries the stories of everything that has ever been and ever will be. Ooh. Wait, sorry. Repeat that. Water carries the stories of everything that has ever been and ever will be. Ooh. Wait, sorry. Repeat that.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Water carries the stories of everything that has ever been and will ever be. It carries the legends of the Selkie, a seal who swims forth with the cold where the mystery dwells to drop its skin and take human form. Okay. So the Selkie. Sorry. Okay. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Those who live by the sea say that the deep within the waters where the kelp forest grows thick and green, seals and Selkies swim together. So this is a Selkie. Okay. And with them swims a young girl with long red hair and webbing between her fingers and toes. Okay, no, she's a young girl. Okay. Okay. Okay. They say she is the child of a Selkie and a human who shapeshifts as she moves between the worlds,
Starting point is 01:07:48 knowing all worlds are one and all living things have their magic. The essence is messages, inspiration, gentleness, innocence, movement between the worlds. Here's your counsel. There are messages waiting for you. To find them, listen to your
Starting point is 01:08:03 heart, reread your favorite stories. Words have the magic to open doors to other realms and other ways of being. Allow yourself to be transported, enchanted, inspired. You are the author of your own story and it's hero, heroine or hero. Hero. So you are the author to your own story. Dive in. Enjoy it. It are the author to your own story. Dive in. Enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:08:27 It doesn't seem like a big burden. It seems like something light and gentle and innocence. And you are just, now that you've accepted a call to the wild, you've now are just allowed to freely be in this place of excitement. You are the hero of your own story in this last one. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:08:45 How do you feel, Chosen? Jackie, how do you feel? Jackie's just like, I'm just like, oh my God. I will say, it is cool to see how aesthetically cohesive
Starting point is 01:09:01 all three of ours are. It is, very. You know, I can only describe it to you, but, you know, mine is very green, and it does have a lot of water. You know, it's this kind of... I mean, it is cool.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Like, yeah, you start off with a swamp, you get to a lake, then you go to the ocean. It does feel like a very internal... Yeah. Journey. Psychological journey. Very full circle, too. Yeah, too. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 No, it's very meaningful. And I think it gives me a lot to meditate on. I don't know why I'm so emotional. Well, I love it. I'm so emotional. I love it because Shane was saying that he's a bit of a skeptic. But to be honest, that's what's great about tarot to me is that all it's doing is highlighting something that was a thought in your mind that you maybe didn't recognize yet or realize. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:50 It's pretty sick. Yeah. No, I think this is very – this gives me a lot to think about. The visual of it helps. Visual. You know? And the words, too. I am a believer in, like, needing visual – like, if you're overthinking on something to write it down or whatever so that
Starting point is 01:10:06 you can see it but yeah I think this is really cool and I look I mean it's a lot of stuff that I these are things that we're talking about that I've known forever of like oh yeah I let my anxiety get to me like sure I've known that but it is cool to see this and it is
Starting point is 01:10:21 yeah it's more messages yeah it's very reminiscent and I I love that so Shane's is Call to the Wild Jackie's is get the fuck
Starting point is 01:10:32 out of your head girl and just be thankful you're alive hell yes and mine is like change is coming change is coming yes
Starting point is 01:10:40 you're gonna get snatched up yeah well thank you guys so much that was tarot reading yeah this was really cool it's so coolatched up. Well, thank you guys so much. That was tarot reading. Yeah, this was really cool. It's so cool. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for sharing this.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I love doing it. And the Witch's Wisdom is the tarot deck that I use right now. We'll probably link their Instagram if you want to check them out. They're amazing. And it's also like a good thing to pull with friends, I would say, too. Yeah. And thank you, Jackie, for being here thanks
Starting point is 01:11:05 Jackie for having me very cool our hype girl oh honestly I'm like I'm like I'm in between two of the most talented individuals right now oh I just feel very privileged to be here um I love it okay also too on your card specific sorry I know we're wrapping up on your card specifically Shane I just feel like I I I love telling you how great you are. And I'm like, Shane, you can like. So it's just like, I'm like, yeah, follow the wolf. You're following the wolf. Call of the wild.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Call of the wild. I love that. From here on out, I will be following the wolf. Yeah. Sorry. Well, thank you guys for joining us. This is Smoshcast. I'm Amanda Lee Hancanto.
Starting point is 01:11:41 And I'm Shane Topp. And this is Smoshmouth. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. This is Jackiep and this is Smosh Mouth yes yeah yeah this is Jackie and this is Jackie okay bye
Starting point is 01:11:49 bye bye

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