Smosh Mouth - S1: #1 - Defy Drama!

Episode Date: February 22, 2019

Ian, Courtney, and Shayne SPILL THE TEA on Defy Media and break down how we all lost our jobs, had no idea if Smosh would ever come back, and how two tall men came in to save the day. Learn more abo...ut your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:48 Find a Michelin TreadExperts dealer near you at TreadExperts.ca slash locations. From tires to auto repair, we're always there. TreadExperts.ca And it's an email saying that we've all been effective immediately, laid off. People were smashing Defy mugs with baseball bats. Oh, I know that. Jake Paul calls former Smosh YouTuber Anthony Patia an imbecile. Imbecile.
Starting point is 00:01:13 We were all single on Valentine's Day. I know, dude. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the first ever Smoshcast. Whoa. Whoa. Wow, it's already off ever Smoshcast. Whoa! Wow, it's already off to a great start. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Oh, that's, oh, Jesus. My name is Ian Hecox. I'm Courtney Miller. I'm Shane Topp. We are some of the people that are on a YouTube channel called Smosh. Yeah. Yeah, you might have heard of it. Maybe. It's been around for a few years. Yeah, you might have heard of it. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It's been around for a few years. Yeah, there's a lot of things to talk about. I guess the big thing on people's minds, and we probably click baited the title, something like, you know, I don't know yet, is where the heck have we been in the past three, four months? All over the place. Hell and back. Yeah, it's been a journey geez let's just take us all the way back to um november was it november was it october it was like november early november it was the first couple weeks of november yeah so we were
Starting point is 00:02:22 we were all working at our parent company, Defy, which most people know by now, and everyone's in love with them. Oh yeah, they're the best company to have ever existed. Yeah, they have a great reputation. Just Google it. I would say they're up there with the greats, like Enron.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah. The Devil Corporation. Devil? Devil Corp. You know, Satan Corp. Oscorp. Okay, yeah, that one's, yeah. For the nerds out there.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You're so nerdy, wow. Whichever corporation made the Terminators. Apple. Apple? Terminators Apple product. Well, there goes our Apple sponsorship. Sorry, sorry. So back in November or October, who knows, because this feels like an eon ago.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah. We got a lovely, and this is completely out of the blue. Yeah, we were in the middle of a writer's meeting or something. It happened. And there were rumblings around the office that things weren't too great. And there were people that were starting to trickle out of the company. Yeah, mind you, for the past year before that, every couple months, there'd be just massive layoffs.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And like 30 people would lose their job. And we'd all be like, oh my God, this sucks. Our budget kept getting cut and cut until we were like, we're shooting sketches with nothing. So basically, we were just hanging out. And then all of a sudden, we get this email that's like, everyone get on the phone in 30 minutes. Emergency meeting. That's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And so we were like, oh, that probably can't be good. I don't think I realized the gravity of it, but our head writer immediately was just like, well, all right. Start packing up your things. He literally was like, it's over. And I was like, whoa, it's just a phone call. We't know that but boy did he call it yeah yeah so we got on the call and and they were like well um uh by california law we have to uh let everyone know that uh we're giving you a 60-day notice yeah so, so we had until January 2nd or something like that. To work until then and you find another job.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So everyone's like, gosh, that really sucks, but at least we have until January to figure out next steps. And that was a Friday. So weekend happens. Obviously not a good weekend. Nobody sleeps. Yeah. And Monday comes around and we're still sort of working, you know, trucking along.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I'm writing a script. And then we get an email. I remember exactly what I was doing. I was in the writer's room with Matt Robb and a couple other people. I think it was some Smosh Games people. We get this email, and it shows up on Matt's computer. He's like, do you guys see this email? It's an email saying that we've all been effective immediately laid off.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah, everybody at once. Everybody. Like, go get your paycheck in this, laid off. Yeah. Everybody at once. Everybody. Like, go get your paycheck in this office right now. Goodbye. Yeah. So the funny thing was because, I don't know, I felt like it was a moment that I needed to remember. I was like, selfie.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Oh, my God. I remember that. I took a photo. Some dark humor. And, like, I think you're in the photo and you're just like. I wasn't there, actually. What? He wasn't there yet, I remember that. I took a photo. Some dark humor. And like, I think you're in the photo and you're just like. I wasn't there actually. What? No, he wasn't there yet.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I remember. I was working, I was filming on the Goldbergs and I got home and I got the text. I saw the text as soon as I got home of like, hey, everybody got laid off. It's over. And I was like, oh my God. And I quickly got all my stuff together and I drove all the way to the office and by the time I got there all the sadness
Starting point is 00:06:10 had dissipated and now the party started yeah so there was an immense amount of delirium after the layoff so nobody knew what to do I was writing a script so I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:26 well, I don't think Smosh is really going to be over, so I guess I might as well finish this script. So I just kind of sat there and finished the script. Which script was it? Do you remember? I forget now. These past couple months have been a blur. Yeah, a little bit. So some people went out and got a fair amount of booze.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And we were supposed to shoot the very next day. So we had a whole bunch of crafty and snacks and stuff. We were supposed to shoot every Domino's ever. Yeah, we had a bunch of Domino's. And a bunch of pizza from that week. Still got to shoot that. Yeah, we got to film that. Still got to shoot that.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Oops. But yeah, there was tons of food laid out, whatever. I brought, out whatever I brought I think I brought some beer I mean full disclosure I was like
Starting point is 00:07:09 alright I'm gonna grab a six pack bring it over to the office and yeah people were sad but it was one of those things it was kind of like kind of felt like
Starting point is 00:07:17 a high school graduation or a college graduation where it's like we had spent so much time here together doing crazy stuff and then it was over immediately I was expecting to continue to work there where it's like we had spent so much time here together doing crazy stuff and then it was over immediately.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was expecting to continue to work there for a long time. And suddenly, and, you know, yeah, there was that optimism in my head and all of us were saying, oh, it's not over. It's going to come back. But at the time, really, thinking back on it, it very likely could have been completely over at that point. I think there was still some hope because because when that first the the termination of everyone happened there were all of us kind of gathered in this mosh room and like everyone was
Starting point is 00:07:54 like really down a couple people had speeches i do have footage from that moment i feel very bad that i was like i'm gonna film this right now i, I was just like, that'd be so weird to have footage of this moment. And Matt Robb of Smosh Games was like, he came in and gave this amazing speech. I almost wish I had filmed that. But like, we were like, this isn't over. Like just because this is happening, like we are too, too, like we're doing too well
Starting point is 00:08:21 and we are too together with this. So like, so there was still hope and still a chance we were all still going to be together. But it was still end of the world feeling too. What was the real kicker too was that we had had our best week ever the week prior. Like statistics wise? We literally had like, we were planning a celebration I actually think
Starting point is 00:08:42 because we had Smosh main Smosh pit both had their best views ever and subscriptions were up like it was like up 600% everything was doing great so we were like oh my god we're we've never been more successful and then suddenly oh
Starting point is 00:09:00 we're all now out of a job so the party turned into a little bit of a shit show yeah it did turned into a little bit of a shit show. Yeah. It did turn into a shit show. Some people started breaking some things. Breaking things, looting a little bit. I won't say if things actually happened, but I say mayhaps people stole things. Mayhaps there was damage done.
Starting point is 00:09:19 But hey, I don't know. And mayhaps somebody, and I don't know who, I heard peed in one of the guys that was essentially running the company. I didn't hear about this. I heard that somebody peed in his office. Oh, my God. No way. Yeah. Oh, my God. I fully believe it.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That's hay. I had believe it. That's. I had no idea. There's, like, people that were. Mayhaps that mayhaps have happened. Yeah. And, like, mayhaps people were smashing Defy mugs with baseball bats. I know. I know that.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah. I know about that. And that's. I heard that someone. So crazy that somebody, like, used a plunger on one of the computers of people's offices. They took a plunger to one of the CEO's computers? Who would do that? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't think anybody has video of it either. Okay. I just can't believe someone peed and that's crazy. That's insane And that guy Never showed back up to the office To be fair The leaders of Defy
Starting point is 00:10:34 I won't say names But they fired everyone And then didn't talk face to face With anyone Didn't show up And I was really bummed about that Because I was trying to learnmed about that because I was like, okay. Because I was trying to learn a lot about just being a leader and what's it like to do business because I had never worked in an office place before.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And I was just really bummed because I was like, that just seems like really poor leadership skills. Because part of being a leader is, yeah, you're going to fail sometimes. And even if it's a massive failure, you've got to own it. And they really didn't. and that bummed me out. The large issue for me at Defy was the leadership. And I told people before, I felt like Defy was just kind of rotten at the top, and we had huge issues with the person that was directly above us.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And I went over him to tell the other, the higher ups. I was like, hey, look, this guy's a problem. He's terrible for the culture. He's, you know, people are leaving because of his leadership. And I got a response that was like, you know, nobody cares about Smosh more than us. We're going to do something about this. And they did nothing.
Starting point is 00:11:52 No. What I will say, though, a cool thing was that the three and a half years that we were there, there was a bond that all of us at Smosh had because we were kind of all put in this part of the office. We never really saw, I didn't see many of these corporate types that were in control of it, but we banded together
Starting point is 00:12:13 and we were always trying to make great stuff. We were always having fun and doing crazy shit. And we all had this kind of common enemy the whole time. We were kind of like, ugh, these corporate overlords that are always- It felt like an 80s movie. Really, it did. We were the breakfast club and Defy was the principal that would come in every now and then be like,
Starting point is 00:12:29 Stop having fun. You gotta do this, whatever. And we were like, okay. And it was tough because they didn't have a sense of humor. They didn't understand comedy. It was a really weird dynamic. I was saying this earlier. It feels like a bunch of theater kids were just put into a cubicle. Yeah, I gotta give them credit. Like we were able to do a lot of stuff and we were able to
Starting point is 00:12:50 use a lot of resources. So, I mean, like I can't, I can't completely dump on defy. Like they, they got us to where we were at. We just needed better leadership. We needed a company that was actually behind us rather than just kind of like there, not really doing anything to kind of like help push us forward or create like a real business plan. It seemed to hold us back sometimes in terms of relationships with other YouTubers and companies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Well, yeah, because, I mean, I know there were definitely some YouTubers that wouldn't work with us because we were under the fire because they had baby speech. And they've talked about that on their channels. Like, it's nuts. So that happened. That all happened.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And then, you know, because the way that the company was shut down, it was complete anarchy. Like there was nobody saying like, okay, now you don't have jobs. This is what you're doing. There was nobody deciding what would happen with the channels. The channels were locked at first. Nobody could even get into them. Not even you, right?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So also we came back the next day or somebody came back. locked at first nobody could even get into them not even you right yeah yeah so yeah so also uh we came back the next day or somebody came back the next day and there was an eviction notice yes put on the door oh my god yeah so it's like and it's like who do we who do we tell about this yeah we have no idea we had no idea who to look to like all our stuff was still in there all of our props all of our costumes yeah because you you need some sort of guidance like they were just like okay like get out but like
Starting point is 00:14:31 they also left like so it was like yeah yeah there was they weren't even there they were technically fired too because the company was just crumbling yeah i'm not i'm not totally sure no idea yeah but it was just there was there was nobody to turn to, though. There was no structure at all within a day. So we basically had to just take things in our own hands. I contacted somebody. I was like, hey, do you have access to the channel? And then I got access to the channel.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Let me just put up videos. Yeah, because we had a full week of just, I was just at my I just put up videos. Yeah, because it was like, we had like a full week of just, I was just at my apartment like, all right, so I'm chilling now, doing nothing. And then we all were like, okay, we're gonna meet up at Ian's place and talk and maybe film something because let's keep making videos. But it was, there was something kind of cool
Starting point is 00:15:24 about then knowing we're going to this phase where, hey, we're going to make videos just us from scratch. And I was like, this is kind of cool because this is kind of where the channel started from. Like forever ago, you and Anthony just decided to film videos, the two of you, and it blew up from there. And after becoming this massive thing, it was kind of going through. I kept saying when it was all happening, it was very sad, but I kept being like, guys, this was kind of going through, I kept saying when it was all happening,
Starting point is 00:15:46 it was very sad, but I kept being like, guys, this is kind of like Avengers 2. Yeah. I'm like, Avengers Tower crumbles and we got to scrap together and do it ourselves. It really felt like a cheesy.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's what we ended up doing. Like, you know, one of the things that was sort of like validating for me was the fact that everyone came together and helped. And, you know, we had some people come out and shoot for us just because they had always shot with us. You know, they believed in what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I mean, I paid some editors out of pocket. I just, you know, the show had to go on. Yeah. Yeah, we filmed some videos on my iPhone. I edited those on Final Cut. Yeah, we filmed some videos on my iPhone. I edited those on Final Cut. Yeah, we all did a little extra. I had to learn how to upload to YouTube again. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And YouTube's so different from what it used to be, too. Yeah. Because, I mean, like, look, I know people at home are like, wow, you don't upload your own videos. You're totally out of touch. But look, when you have like four channels and you have to schedule those uploads and you have to make sure all the metadata is there. Multiple uploads a week. Yeah. You need somebody to do that on all those things. It's so much work, man. And I realized that very quickly. Yeah. Because I, oh man, some thumbnails that I decided to, that I thought I could make, that was a bad idea. Oh, yeah. I remember I tried taking a crack at one.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Like, some are okay, but a lot of times, like, those thumbnails, a lot of work goes into the ones that we have on those channels. It's all so much hard work. I have immense respect for people who do it all by themselves. I don't know how they do it. It's insane. Everyone's got a pro. Need tires?
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Starting point is 00:18:27 But there are still YouTubers who do everything by themselves, which is crazy. Yeah, and then months kept going by. And we would meet up every now and then and film stuff. And it was really fun. And we were still holding on to hope of like, this is all going to come back. Everything's going to come back the same. And I mean, at least for me, I can speak, you know, get got into December and like towards late December, I was like, all right, this this may be over. I was like, scary. This is starting to get
Starting point is 00:18:54 scary because we were we were in silence. We were we had radio silence because Ian couldn't tell us really what was happening. but there was so much happening. Yeah, so I thought I didn't have any sort of control over what was going to happen because we had sold Smosh years and years and years ago to Defy. So when Defy went out of business, then it was in the hands of the bank, and it was just going to be sold to the highest bidder essentially.
Starting point is 00:19:23 So scary, dude. The Monopoly man. Smosh. Yeah. So, I mean, I realized after like a week or so, I'm like, wait a second. Like every moment that I'm sitting here not trying to figure out a way to pull this out, I'm wasting. So I hired a consultant that was a guy that i knew we started trying to find a way build a business plan uh and essentially like pitch smosh to investors and try to pull together like an
Starting point is 00:19:54 investing party to get the monies to to buy it um and it was really it was weird man like i got like a crash course in business stuff. Because we're going to these meetings where there's this investor guy that invested in all these tech companies. And he's sitting there. He's like, all right, what you got? You're in Shark Tank all of a sudden. He's got a cigar. All right, what you got, kid?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. Show me the stuff. I've heard of this YouTube thing. All right. What you got kid? Yeah. Show me the stuff. I've heard of this YouTube thing. Uh, sounds hot. So yeah, it was, um, it was really exciting and, and it was another validating thing where all these investors we were talking to actually knew what Smosh was. And that was the only reason why we got like seat time with them. Cause they didn't need to give us the time of day day but it was sort of validating like this thing that we've built actually has you know value yeah um this thing you put over a decade in actually kind of means something yeah it's kind of cool but the problem
Starting point is 00:20:58 was uh the time that that we had to get it was just too little of a time. So as that was going along, we were starting to realize less and less, we might not be able to get together this group of investors. And then we also kind of realized as we were going, okay, even if we get the investors, I won't have a controlling share of this company and it'll be controlled by some random people. So that was starting to be a little bit scary. That kind of fell through. And then there was some other companies that were thinking about acquiring it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 One particularly bad one actually almost got it. Yeah. Some foreign company. They were like in the lead, right? Like they were. Yeah, some foreign company and their whole plan was like, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to take a Smosh and we're going to just hire a bunch of other people in other countries and start like new Smoshes there. So like, we're going to go to Thailand. We're going to, we're going to find
Starting point is 00:22:00 some talented Thai boys and we're going to're gonna look up to the talented Thai boys. And they're just gonna be like Thai Smosh. We're gonna spread Smosh across the world like a plague. We're gonna infect every country with Smosh. So that didn't happen. Yeah, clearly. And just the idea that they
Starting point is 00:22:23 wanted to take that control and start doing that stuff. Yeah. And they had a whole bunch of other terrible ideas. There was this freaking guy that was kind of leading it. He was like, I mean, there's all these things we could do with merch, like really wacky things. We could sell a small straw, but it doesn't work. And that would get an article in the New York Times of like,
Starting point is 00:22:47 hey, you know how straws are polluting the world? How do we do that better? How do we troll the planet more? Yeah, he was pitching these wacky, crazy ideas. Oh my goodness. Smosh trash. It's just already trash. But it's $29.99.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Take it, stupid. But you, what did you guys do? One of the issues with that is that that's somebody that thinks that Smosh is a kid's channel. He's like, oh, it's like a wacky, crazy, fun time. It's like, that's not Smosh. It really is the approach of so many business types when it comes to, honestly,
Starting point is 00:23:24 when it comes to YouTube in general. Yeah. That is like, it's so hard for them to grasp that mature people like this. Like people actually, I don't know, they think of it as this just Nick Jr. type of thing. They just didn't get it. Because they see the slime videos and they're like, oh, so everybody on YouTube is a kid? Yeah, it's like, dude. And even for people who are kids who are watching this, they're smarter than that.
Starting point is 00:23:48 They're more mature than that. 12-year-olds don't want a straw that doesn't work. Yeah. And then, yeah, his whole argument was like, well, there's like AKB48, which is the 48-member J-pop band. And he's like, well, then they went off and made a Vietnamese version of that. I'm like, yeah, but that's a format. Smosh is a brand.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It's people making a certain kind of comedy. Yeah, it's like a family. Smosh isn't a format. You can't just put that onto other things. So thankfully, in the in the freaking zero hour Rhett and Link come and save the goddamn day it was nuts call like like I don't remember I don't uh it was like uh well we got on a call with them and and um we essentially told them what we thought the price was. And the response was, I think we could do that.
Starting point is 00:24:49 That's so cute. That's such a Rhett and Link response. Well, I think we can do that. Well. That's my Rhett and Link impression. Well, sure. Yeah. So, I mean, this whole, like, the past, like, three or four months was a roller coaster of emotion.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Whereas, like, one day it was like, you know, we'd have a good meeting with somebody. We'd be like, this is going to be it. It's going to happen. This is going to be the thing. And then next day we get, like, an email back. They're like, I'm sorry, just in the time, we can't do it. And it's like, everything's gone to shit. We're all screwed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And it was just literally every day was like we're gonna make it we're dead and then make it dead that's why you never told us really what was going on well obviously you were under an NDA for the stuff but also since it was such a roller coaster I know honestly if you were telling me every day that that stuff was happening I probably would have cried like twice as much because that's like scary. And you, yeah, you basically told us you didn't want us to have false hope a lot of times. Yeah. Yeah. And it was also, it was getting to a point we'd hear about, you know, we'd hear about
Starting point is 00:25:53 these companies and the one we were talking about. And when I would hear about that in my head, I'm like, even if it gets, you know, bought by this company, I don't know how I feel about signing on to it if it's going to be another Defy. Exactly. If it's going to be another one of those situations because I love this job and I love Smosh, but when we're, I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:13 oh, but what if we're controlled even more than Defy? Then it's not going to be fun. We're not going to get to do what we love. I mean, because I knew, for a long time, like, wanted to be more like creatively involved and not just writing and and being in the videos like i had all these ideas all the time and so i would go to somebody at defy and be like i have this idea say it was a show or merch or whatever and like they would go uh-huh cute okay go back to get your makeup for the video bye-bye
Starting point is 00:26:42 like very dismissed and and already like it's been such a short amount of time and I feel so involved and I really feel like I'm helping Smosh a lot more. The reality now is that it's kind of just us doing our thing. Rhett and Link were like here's this studio we have, do whatever you want. I mean that's because Rhett and Link have succeeded because they're in control yeah like
Starting point is 00:27:06 they the the thing that i love the most about about mythical which is their company is that they don't have any investors they own it yeah which is huge and that was that was the big concern when when we were trying to thinking about getting investors for smosh you're not in complete control but but they are. So they're smart enough to know that it worked for them, it could work for us. Yeah. You could say it's like the part in Avengers
Starting point is 00:27:33 where it's like we're doomed, but then Rhett and Link are vision. They come in and they save everything and they have a vision. They had a vision for us and they made our dreams come true. Except for Ultron was a lot sexier than Defy. Oh, word.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I wouldn't, yeah. I don't really remember Age of Ultron. I just kind of blocked that out of my mind. It's just kind of there. It is just kind of there. It's really just kind of there. Yeah, okay. Well, I liked it, so.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I like it, but it's just kind of there because Avengers 1 and Avengers Infinity War are both just. Yeah, they. Well, I liked it. I like it, but it's just kind of there. Because Avengers 1 and Avengers Infinity War are both just... Yeah, they're great. It's like a sandwich except the bread is the good part. Oh. You know? It's like I don't really care about the turkey and caprese, but I like the bread. So the turkey and the what?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Caprese. Okay. I guess you wouldn't have turkey and caprese. It'd be a caprese sandwich. Sorry. Welcome to Smosh, Italy. Welcome to Space Smosh. Basically, we came very, very close to ending up in a really terrible situation.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And I made it clear that if we were to end up with a Nether Defy, I was not going to go along with it. And it would be very likely that nobody else would go along with it as well. Although I did think it would be pretty funny if like everybody dropped out except for Keith. And Keith was just running Smosh all on his own, just making like tons of money. Crushes it. Oh my gosh, yeah. He's the next Jeff Bezos. A lot of people on social media throughout this process were like,
Starting point is 00:29:11 why do you guys need a new parent company? Why do you need that at all? You guys can do it on your own. And they're kind of right, but there was the whole aspect, just to answer that, was you needed to get it out of jail first. You needed to buy out Smush from the Monopoly man. Yeah, it wasn't ours. Yeah, like, just to even get to that point.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And I think this is, like, the dream team situation where, like, this is as close to being our own company as it could possibly get, but it's, like, safer and, like, Rhett and Link's people are, like, giving advice and trying to help us. Like, hey, this is some ideas and, like, be better, but, like, you don't have to do this if you don't want like it's it's like a very collaborative thing it like when that does happen but for the most part it's been like us like there's no like creative director
Starting point is 00:29:55 that's telling us like you need to make a science show or uh or a nature show and those were those were cool shows like they were awesome but like they weren't things that we wanted to do. Yeah. I love animals. That was Defy going like, well, TV's pretty cool, so we can make a TV show, right? Let's be TLC. Yeah. Why not?
Starting point is 00:30:19 Because they came to me one day and were like, hey, we're going to have you do a science show called Smosh Lab. And I was like, okay. They're like, have you do a science show called Smosh Lab. And I was like, okay. They're like, yeah, because you'll be like the science one. I'm like, I don't know anything about science, but okay. And like a lot of people like the show. But it was weird, though, because it was not my idea at all. And I felt weird in the show sometimes because I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just going to try to be silly here.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But stuff like that would happen. And it was always trippy. Whereas now we get to really kind of come up with what we want to do and organically create it. There was so much content. I remember when we had all those shows, we were releasing videos every single day. And some channels do that, like Sugar Pine. Sugar Pine 7 releases a video every single day. And it's them doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I don't understand how they do it, but we were doing that with these crazy well-produced shows that were so polished. I remember Woe Nature Show had like six cameras at one point on one set. And they weren't doing well overall because I feel like it didn't show us off. It's not authentic. Yeah, we were given a lot of lines. We were like, ah, this isn't me. You and Olivia don't have any animal content
Starting point is 00:31:36 before that. I like animals, that's all. Yeah, but everybody likes animals. But you weren't like, hey, check out this awesome snake that I love so much. And here's the thing, too. Say somebody saw Woe Nature Show and weren't like, hey, check out this awesome snake that I love so much. Well, and here's the thing, too. Like, say somebody saw Woe Nature Show, and they're like, oh, my God, I love this. Subscribe. And then the next day, they're like, what is this one-hour song machine?
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'm not into this music show. Yeah. Whoa, what is this science show? This isn't what I subscribed for. Bye. And meantime, we had done a challenge, like, early 2017 called try not to laugh and it blew up and it did really well and for forever we were like hey we should do more of those and they were just always like no or whatever we don't know how we don't we don't think we it wouldn't work if we kept doing
Starting point is 00:32:19 it whatever and we were always like yeah but it did really well we probably should do it again it was really fun we finally finally started getting the chance to do them. And of course they blew up. It was just a matter of because they had all these shows. And this is just what I think. They had every day a different kind of show because they wanted to have every possible kind of show that a brand would want to advertise on.
Starting point is 00:32:44 It seemed like they were just like, oh, we just have lots of product that you can shop. Yeah, it's packaging something into a specific show so that you can sell it to an advertiser later. And it's just when you're thinking about selling an ad first before the content, it's kind of dumb. Yeah, and this week already was the first week we got to shoot Smosh Pit stuff. And already you and I were like, hey, let's do a show where we just talk about dating. Let's talk about how we're awkward on dates, whatever. And we just did it. Yeah, we shot it.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah, but how can you sell that though? Tell me about this. Who's interested in buying it? Let's see. Okay, Cupid, we need some gold bars. But yeah, that was so cool. It was just something we wanted to do. We're like, we wanna try it. And it was just, yeses all around.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Everyone was just like, yeah, go for it. Like, we, there's just so much opportunity already and like everyone's just, it's so much more creatively stimulating. It also looks so much better here. This studio space is so much cooler looking than the DMV that we used to work in. Also found out unlimited avocados in the kitchen
Starting point is 00:33:57 just found out. Okay, and unlimited La Croix. Thank you. I know, insane. We rationed off our La Croix back at Defy. We really did. I killed a man over a La Croixix. Thank you. I know. Insane. We rationed off our LaCroix back at Defy. Yeah, we really did. We really did.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I killed a man over a LaCroix back at Defy. Which is perfectly acceptable. It was perfectly fine. Defy had a you're allowed to murder other people for LaCroix rule. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:16 There was one LaCroix. Any kind of carbonated, slightly flavored beverage. Me and this other guy, you know, I think he was an editor. We opened up the fridge. There was one LaCroix.
Starting point is 00:34:24 We looked at each other. I grabbed a pole, a wooden rod, broke it in half. He grabbed a champagne bottle, broke that. And we just battled it out. Who died? Star Trek style. Who died? Well, he died.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Because I'm here. I died. No, he actually, he was okay. He recovered from his wounds. And I visited him in the hospital. I was like, sorry, buddy. He was like, how was it? I was like, it was all right.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It was pumplemousse. Not my favorite. As long as it's not coconut. Coconut is the worst. Coconut's not terrible. It tastes like sunscreen. The only one I can't stand, honestly, is just the original. No flavor is a dumb thing.
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Starting point is 00:35:45 Nope, just comedians. Or Washington. Washington. Washington. There was a girl in my high school that would say Worsch. Whoa. I think, is she from New York? I mean, I think that's like a-
Starting point is 00:35:57 No, like every other word was like normal, like California. And it was just like, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, Worsch. Like, I don't know about that. Oh, and she also said rough instead of roof. She'd say like, oh, look at the rough. Oh, I've heard people do that. Huh. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:13 She must be from Mars. Yeah. But there were other terrible things about the Defy office, the fact that it was in Beverly Hills for some random ass reason. There was no other production it was in Beverly Hills for some random ass reason. There is no other production that is in Beverly Hills. It's just medical offices and agencies. Well, not just one
Starting point is 00:36:32 office either. They had two offices on Wilshire. Are you kidding? And those are not cheap offices. It was dumb. We petitioned to move to a better area every single year. We're like, hey, it would be cheaper if we moved away from here,
Starting point is 00:36:50 and we'd be closer to everyone. We wouldn't have to commute for an hour through some BS traffic. God, my drive there was awful. You know, we hired a real estate person, and they just can't find anything. They just can't find anything. They just can't find anything. There's like three houses in Los Angeles. Who's your real estate guy? Well, she's right here.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Alexa? Find nearest office. I'm sorry. I don't quite understand it. Sorry, buddy. We're trying. We tried. Next, we're going to get that Google one. Better luck with that one. Can't afford him yet, buddy. We're trying. We tried. We tried. You know, next we're going to get that Google one. Better luck with that one.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Siri didn't even want to help. Can't afford him yet, though. Yeah. I think also a big thing was how massive Ian's beard got. Oh, my goodness. It was crazy. It got very large. He daddied up for Smosh, you guys.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You don't understand in every way. Well, you see, I really have to take on the full role of Smosh dad it's been said a lot on the Twitters that I am essentially like the stepdad of Smosh and I'm just trying to keep my family together and are you the stepdad I guess I would just be the single dad yeah no yeah you were the you were the singer the single dad defyy was the rich stepmom that came in and kind of just took over. I have the name of a stepdad, though, because stepdads always have a one-syllable name, like Rob. Or like Turk.
Starting point is 00:38:15 You're like an ABC family single dad. Yeah. Sorry, free form. You know what I think you should do? I think you should grow out the beard a little bit more You should get it like straightened Sweep it so you have an upside down bowl cut Bring it back
Starting point is 00:38:35 I will help you It's like a Stranger Things situation It's the bowl cut from the upside down Nice Nice Yeah I've come more into my beard Yeah from the upside down. Nice. Nice. Yeah, I've come more into my beard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I haven't seen bare face. This is technically actually grizzly bear face, but like naked face. Yeah. Well, I mean, the issue was like a lot of sketches, you know, you don't want to have every character you play be a bearded man. Yeah. Especially if you're trying to play Kim Kardashian.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It doesn't really work. It's tough. Not quite. So without all the crazy videos we were shooting, I was like, well, I'm just going to work on my unemployment beard. Yeah, it was no parent company, no Vembeard. Which then went into Decembeard and kind of went away in January. January.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Oh. Oh, see, you shouldn't have shaved it. Then February Harry. February Harry. Yeah. And then. Starch. Nope.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, it didn't have one for March. Well. March doesn't have one. Well, that's it for the podcast. That's it for that. Forever. No. I never got to grow my beard out.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I don't think I ever will. Yeah, because of Goldbergs? Well, I play a teenager on Goldbergs. Personally, my beard, it was, I didn't. One day. One day you'll get a majestic beard like mine. Thank you. Right now I just have peach fuzz.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But Shane went a little crazy. Did a little jean cuffing. It's been getting wild lately. So I started cuffing my jeans. Let's get into it. Once you were single, you really started cuffing. Literally within a week of being single, I was like, you know what? I think it's time to roll up these bad boys.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So instead of dyeing your hair like every girl after a breakup. Or getting bangs. Yeah. But my jean cuffs are my bangs. Let's throw it up on the table over here. Are you able to? For the people who are just listening, there is a leg on the table and there is a cuff. He's wearing
Starting point is 00:40:35 high top bands. So I rolled them up once and then I was like, I like this. And honestly, it just keeps going up. Yeah, you've been rolling it more and more. At some point, they're going to hit my knees. At some point, your ball sack's just going to be hanging out the side. That's the goal. Also, going back to ball sack, what do you call it when it hits the toilet?
Starting point is 00:40:54 Well, that's Kurt Maloney. He wrote for us for a while. He referred to it as laying anchor. And he was like, yeah, you ever lay anchor? And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, it's when your ball sack dips into the water of the toilet bowl. And I go, dude, that's, that's a long way down. That's like, they're, they're dangling so far.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's a long way down or your toilet is currently clogged. Yeah. I mean, that's either the water's too high or your balls are too low. And you know, the ratio is off high or your balls are too low. And, you know, the ratio is off. The bathrooms here are very nice. Oh, my God. And the bathroom at Defy was awful.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Oh, my God. You guys talked so... Yeah. We got to go and... Let's spend 30 minutes talking about the bathroom. Oh, man. Because bathrooms can be awkward. And, boy, were they dead silent. But also far away.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Like, I've watched... Like, it's a silent film but even more. It's, have you seen A Quiet Place? That bathroom is quieter than that. But more terrifying. Well, it got to the point where you guys put a little weird radio in there.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Which was the greatest gift to mankind. And I would always just switch to the Spanish stations. But I never could poop there. I pooped there once and Noah was gift to mankind. And I would always just switch to the Spanish stations. Cute. But I never could poop there. I pooped there once, and Noah was in the bathroom washing his hands, and he kept laughing. He kept laughing at me. Oh, no. And now I will never, ever poop in public again.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Well, and speaking of pooping, Defy It, the height of its business, had maybe 200, 300 people working there. Yeah. Fyatt, the height of its business, had maybe 200, 300 people working there. And the men's bathroom that everyone had to share had two toilets. Two toilets and two urinals. Yeah. And they were always, the urinal or the toilets were always in use. There was always two people there, dead silent.
Starting point is 00:42:39 On their phones. Didn't sound like they were pooping. They were just in there for a solid hour just sitting there. Yep. Didn't sound like they were pooping. They were just in there for a solid hour just sitting there. You know, that's funny because the women's bathroom was always empty. I think that's because Defy just hired a bunch of bros. Yeah, Defy had a lot of bros. There weren't a lot of women there. And what also sucked, this was the worst part,
Starting point is 00:43:02 is the stall doors to the toilets had a massive space oh yeah those gaps they were had massive gaps and you've probably seen that at public bathrooms like oh there's too much space yep for this for this bathroom door and so i would sometimes walk past on my way to get some paper towels see some accidental dawn and i would just see a fully grown man sitting there like he's in confession, just staring forward. And we'd make eye contact. It sucks. And I'm like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Now, like, I can't look that guy in the eyes ever because I've made eye contact with him while he's dropping a deuce. That's really rough. And now you're married. That's at your most vulnerable. Like, the only eye contact, the only pooping eye contact you should ever make is with a dog. If you own a dog, they're going to look at you while they're pooping
Starting point is 00:43:50 and that's a trust thing. That's your best buddy. But you should not do that with any human ever. You know that's how you create the ultimate bond with your dog. You both poop at the same time and look at each other. Yeah, everybody knows that. Everybody listening knows that.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But you have to finish before the dog does. Yes, or else he is the alpha. You always. Yes. It's so true. So true. Your dog finishes first. He just looks at you and he's like, sorry, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:16 You disappointed me. Oh, my gosh. There's dogs here. There's dogs running around this office. There's a lot of dogs in this office. It's a dog-friendly office. It's cute. I'm waiting for a cat friendly office
Starting point is 00:44:26 office kitties would be really kind of cool it would smell a lot it's great for me because unfortunately my son we have our hand on Courtney's shoulder for those that are listening we are consoling Courtney right now
Starting point is 00:44:41 and it's because the dogs in the office is nice because I miss my dog. He, unfortunately, is living in Utah with my mom because— He really loves mountain climbing. He loves mountain climbing. He already has got his new rock climbing shoes. He chucks up his hands and he goes— He liked the city life, but he looked at you one day and he goes,
Starting point is 00:45:04 I'm afraid, Courtney, I must go to the mountains. What is that voice? It's Jorah Mormont. Oh, okay. Good. Can't least see. But yeah, basically, he was like such an anxious dog. And you guys saw for yourself what kind of anxiety he had when I leave.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And it was like, so he was anxious. I'm an anxious person. What? No. What? And it was so crazy. And so like that was just stewing between him and I because I was working so much. And when I got Django at first, I very quickly realized it was kind of a mistake,
Starting point is 00:45:44 but I had people in my life that were like willing to help me yeah you're in a relationship so you had a significant other that could take care of yeah they definitely like held my hand and guided me to this dog and were like yes get this dog and like um they were saying they were gonna help me a lot and like basically that first few months with that dog he was going all over the house like all not all over the house he was going to my boyfriend's place my my place, my dad's place, my sister's place at work. He didn't have any consistency. And he was an anxious boy.
Starting point is 00:46:14 He would try and chew through doors to get to me because he was in such a panic. And my heart cannot take that. It's a lot. And so with that inconsistency, he never knew where he was going to be the next day. of panic and like that's a I just I my heart cannot take that it's it's a lot and yeah so with that inconsistency he just he never knew where he was going to be the next day I was always worrying like okay what about tomorrow where is he going to be tomorrow and like I had a really crazy past with dogs when like we just had really bad luck with dogs getting sick and passing away so I was so fixated on giving this dog an amazing life. And I just didn't feel like I was succeeding in that.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Like I would drop a pencil in my apartment and he'd freak out and be like, are you leaving me yet? Like, are you leaving me now? Like he, I felt terrible. Like I, and I tried, trust me guys, I researched every possible way to help a dog's anxiety. But he was like a rare case where like I talked to professionals like think people like Cesar Milan I was talking to. And they were like, honestly, it doesn't like this is just one of those cases where it's there's no help, like unless you're just always with them. Yeah. And I mean, it's a lot harder when when you're living, living by yourself. Yeah. And you have a dog. I face the same issues because I have a big old dumb German shepherd and you know luckily I have a backyard
Starting point is 00:47:25 that she can just run around and chase squirrels and chase all those 16 outdoor cats that live next to my house um yeah so she stays plenty entertained I think yeah she's got the scenery and everything I still do feel guilt because I too was in a relationship when I got when I got that dog so it was like okay well she'll be at home with the dog and keep the dog entertained while I'm out doing YouTube-y things. But now I'm sort of faced with a similar thing where I'm like, she could be in a better home. And if that opportunity presents itself, then I'd be willing to give her up.
Starting point is 00:48:05 But you had a good place to give Django up to. Yeah, my mom has a giant, it's like a Doberman-Rottweiler mix, but they became best friends immediately. They run around the yard, they're playing in the snow. He's having a great time. I'm very happy with where he's at now. I couldn't even go to the gym. I'm a more docile person't even go to the gym. And like the gym, I'm a more docile person
Starting point is 00:48:26 when I go to the gym regularly. And like not getting that. I like to relax at the gym. I just like to chill. I go there to sleep. Just throw some cow bells. You just gotta. What do they call them, kettle bells?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Kettle bells. I don't know, I don't know words. Cow bells, nice. Just go to the gym. Just, dun dun dun. That's how you get your anger out. Nice. I mean it sounds like to me that you need to get a pet that doesn't give a shit about you,
Starting point is 00:48:48 which is why you should get a cat because they don't give a shit about you. They don't give no shit. They actively hate you, but it's kind of fun. Yeah, I grew up with cats. They're really great, and I do love them. Right now, I feel like I don't even feel like getting a pet right now because of i like guilt i still hurt it hurts like i feel like i failed like no dude and yeah i i haven't got i want a pet so bad i love animals beyond imagination but i haven't ever had a pet since i've been living alone uh because i'm gone so much that i'm like any pet i get i'm gonna feel
Starting point is 00:49:24 awful for it that i'm not there for it. I'm going to want to play with it all the time, but I can't. I mean, I bought a few succulents recently and even still I get home and I'm like, I'm like, shut up. Relax. Okay. Yo, can we talk about how awesome air plants are for a moment? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Your air plants. Yeah. You? Yeah, your wood plants? Air plants? Yeah, air plants are dope. You like dunk in the water once a month and then it's fine? Yeah, it's like once a week or something like that. But yeah, it's like they don't live in like soil or anything. They're just this plant and you just dunk it in water for like 10 minutes or something. Then you pull it out.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I think you're referring to something from Harry Potter. This does not exist. It's a baby, the crying baby. Yeah, it's great. And they're so aesthetic, too. Oh, they are pretty. See, that's the thing, too. I was like, what about even a little hamster or something like that?
Starting point is 00:50:14 You don't want a rodent. I just don't want to risk. Trust me. I can barely. My cactus died recently, guys. I've had a lot of loss in the past 12 months. How do you kill a cactus? In that regard, you should feel like a failure.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Not with Django, but with having a cactus die? Yeah, you can. Shame. See, the thing with a cat or a dog, they are actively in your face. So you're like, oh, yes, I need to feed this thing. But I'm very scared I'm going to mess up. I'm definitely not ready to have a baby. I'm going to do something wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I don't think anybody's ready to have a baby. Yeah, I know. No one's ever prepared to have a baby. Considering like, come on, look at where we are. We're working women. People shouldn't have had us. I wasn't a mistake. Seven kids in my family.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I was one that was planned. Not the only one, but. Sure. I mean it. No, you were the one that was lied to. Have you ever just put either of your parents on the spot and been like, which one's your favorite? No. Ooh, I think I asked as a kid, but at this point, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But we did have the guys who were like, all right, Dad, who's a mistake and who's planned? And he told us the story of each one. It was great. All right. Well, we were at a Holiday Inn. Can we talk about Courtney's weird closeness to her family for a second? So she sent a photo to us last night. It was the side of her pants pulled down.
Starting point is 00:51:44 So it was her ass cheek and i said fuck you on it and i realized uh she was out with her with can i talk about this yeah i'm just watching you're just ready to stab me yeah uh it's fine no i really so she sent this photo to us and i realized like she's out with her dad and her brothers for that photo to be taken it had to have either been your brother or your dad taking a photo of your ass i will say on my on my mom's side of the family uh people moon each other a lot yeah it's like a thing and that's fine uh but i but i will say because because uh i think ian you and i's family for the most part because my dad dad's side of the family and for the most part my family, we're not a very touchy-feely, affectionate family.
Starting point is 00:52:29 We're very much like, I am very proud of you. Perhaps I will hug you someday. Like that is very much. And I understand. Like there's nothing wrong with like with mooning. And there's nothing wrong with that kind of uh but i think the thing that that i have a question about is like the setting up the photo like like because it was in like the back of a car yeah so what happened was i was in the front seat um they just picked me up because
Starting point is 00:53:00 you'll understand why i had fuck you written on my right ass cheek. You will understand very soon. Hey, try not to laugh. Okay. Yeah. I wanted it to be a surprise. Well, they're not going to know. True. Some people may.
Starting point is 00:53:13 There's a try not to laugh with the valley folk. And this ass cheek valley right here. But, yeah, so basically I had fuck you written on my right butt cheek, and it was my brother's birthday. We were going to a concert, and I was in the front front seat and I was like, hey, Clark, happy birthday. And I got up and I showed him the cheek and he was grossed out. He was weirded out. Maybe it's just me who's overly comfortable with everyone else.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I think so. But our family is very affectionate and close to each other. But like, yeah, that was that. And then I asked him to take the photo and he didn't. He was he felt kind of weird about it but he was down also it was just cheek it was just right cheek just cheek bro you can't handle the left cheek bro relax it's just cheek just a little cheek just cheek for my bro
Starting point is 00:54:03 just dude we can't call anyone weird, though, when we do what we do for a living. Everything I do is normal. I will say I'm very thankful for, well, because it's seven kids in a family. There would be, like, four siblings sharing a room at one time. Like, we were forced to be close with each other, you know, and I honestly, I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Um, except for, I think I am now like, I'm very much an extrovert. So, uh, like being around people, it definitely is a comfort to me. So when we had those months, uh, with Defy being gone and waiting like and then i had jango it was like i couldn't leave the house i could i felt like i would do as much as i could for him like taking him to the park and whatever like i would get him as tired and and content as possible he'd still be anxious whatever i was alone and then and like my family i would go to my family's house but they were like all off doing other stuff. It didn't help that much.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So coming to this office setting and being surrounded by people every day again has been such a relief. Like so much. And it actually even took a little bit of adjusting. I was like, oh, these people. I forgot how to be human for a little bit. Yeah, you're just going around grabbing everybody. Yes. I don't know if I'm an extrovert or an introvert.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I took a quiz, and it was like, it's like an official quiz. It's not like a BuzzFeed, like, are you a potato or a cherry? It's like, it was a- Yeah, but what are, what, are you a potato or a cherry? That's more important.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Oh, we gotta take the official potato or the cherry quiz. Yeah, the science one, yeah. By the way, it wasn't a BuzzFeed quiz. It was very legit. It was a Facebook quiz. Yeah. Okay. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I feel like even a quiz, the problem is with a quiz, I'd worry that I'd get in my head and I'd overthink questions and I wouldn't answer necessarily accurately. It was nice. So the quiz, it was like very much agree, very much disagree, and then a bunch of dots where you could be indifferent and like it was a lot of questions where like I didn't even know how I felt about it
Starting point is 00:56:12 so I'd do indifferent. It's a spectrum though for sure. My therapist sent it to me. I think it's so weird when people like brag about it. They're like, I'm an introvert. It's become like But they use it as a crutch. Like, oh, I don't want to do that because I'm an introvert. Yeah. It's become like in to be an introvert. But they use it as a crutch. Like, oh, I don't want to do that because I'm an introvert.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Same with your Zodiac. There's a great book called Quiet, which is about introverts and extroverts, whatever. And it can be measured literally within months of being born. Whoa. Yeah, because it has to do with literally how you are processing stuff. And they talk about how an introvert, an introvert's laying in a hammock reading a book is actually getting the same mental stimulation
Starting point is 00:56:51 as an extrovert who's at a dance club with music blasting. Only one person's on Molly. Yeah, exactly. The guy reading the book. He's loving the feeling of those pages. Crazy. But yeah, and so like, yeah exactly the guy reading the book he's loving the feeling of those pages crazy but yeah
Starting point is 00:57:07 and so like just because you like hanging out with people doesn't mean you're an extrovert necessarily and just because you like spending time alone
Starting point is 00:57:15 doesn't make you an introvert so it's really interesting it's not black and white at all and being shy and being outgoing are different than being introverted
Starting point is 00:57:23 and extroverted introverted is when you recharge when you're alone. Extroverts are you recharge when you're with people. I don't know. I actually think I might be an ambivert, which is both, essentially. That's what I was going to say. Then that became a thing where they're like, well, I have some traits that are introverted, but then also extroverted, so I guess I'm an ambivert and it's like
Starting point is 00:57:45 I guess you're just a human being yeah it's that's the thing I mean there's extreme cases for sure but for the most part everyone is somewhere in the spectrum I mean I would say I'd say Damien is someone I know who's who's very introverted and I mean he loves people
Starting point is 00:58:02 but if he doesn't get that time by himself it you can see it messing with him. But I don't know, for me, I feel like, because I need both, I need both daily. I feel like if you have, some people that say they're introverted, like maybe you just have shitty friends. Just don't like them. Yeah, you don't want to spend time with them.
Starting point is 00:58:23 No, because if you spend time around people that you don't really want to spend time around, it is draining. It's exhausting. Because it's like, you've got to force enjoyment, and you've got to force the conversation. If you have good friends, and this obviously isn't just the only qualifier for
Starting point is 00:58:39 a good friend, but if you're comfortable and you don't feel like you have to force anything, you could just hang out. It's like the thing's like the thing in pulp fiction where she's like uh uma thurman's talking about the thing where it's like oh like we could sit here and not have a conversation and be okay just be silent yeah that's being comfortable with a person yeah i think for for me i know a lot of times why i think i'm an introvert is maybe because i'm not necessarily a people pleaser as much as I when I'm around people that I don't necessarily feel super comfortable with I feel
Starting point is 00:59:10 like I have to entertain like oh I'm afraid of them being bored so I gotta yeah I gotta keep the conversation going I gotta make sure they're they're having a good time um and that's exhausting so then I end up wanting to just get home and be by myself so I can relax yeah and not have to worry about performing for me it's like I'm extroverted, I guess. On the quiz, it was like I'm 64% extrovert. But I tend to in a conversation. I'd take more for a 66%. I would like 69%.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Sick. Girl can dream. Hey, you know, we went like an hour, and this is our first 69 joke. Wow. We just fist bump for those that are listening we'll have to make sure every single podcast we do
Starting point is 00:59:48 we'll have to time it out how long because I don't think we're ever going to make it to an hour again I think it's 15 minutes I'm so sorry you were rudely interrupted
Starting point is 00:59:56 Courtney that's okay I was just saying I'm an extrovert but I listen a lot I like to sit and observe and listen I guess it's me absorbing
Starting point is 01:00:04 the people around me but I'm not like – I definitely have that entertainer yearning for the center of attention, but once I actually get the center of attention, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, never mind. I don't like this. I feel bad. I've seen that happen before, by the way. I feel bad, but it's also very funny.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Well, that's one of those because you'll be like guys guys and then as soon as everyone's like yeah you're just like um okay so I feel like I kind of get the same way too because everybody's that way to some extent but especially
Starting point is 01:00:42 like now because now I'm technically leading Smosh. Yeah. Like in earnest. And when like we have the group of everyone together and I'm like saying something and everybody's like turned to me listening. It's intense. Then I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 You pee yourself. Oh, I just pee. I'm a boner for some reason. Listen, everyone. Look at me. We all look and you're like. Oh, shit. Oh, I just peed. He's a boner for some reason. Listen, everyone. Look at me. We all look, and you're just like, oh, shit. Oh, I'm scaring you. And just fluid comes out of every orifice.
Starting point is 01:01:12 You just deflate. Oh, no. Quick, say something business like synergy. Synergy. Oh, my goodness. Synergy is the business word ever since that Lonely Island video. So this was the litmus test for every meeting that I went into when we were trying to find a new home for Smosh. If the sort of business leader that we were talking to said the word synergy within the first paragraph, then I was just checked out.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Really? It's one of those buzzwords that people use that don't really know what the hell they're talking about. It's a great word, but if you have to use it in like every sentence
Starting point is 01:01:52 to try to sound like you're some sort of business expert, it's like, shut up. Full disclosure, I don't think I know exactly what it is.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Does it just mean like cohesiveness? Yeah, like it comes together really well. Okay, yeah. Great. Sick, nice. We did it. It's a fun word. It's a good word, but it's been- Synergy like it comes together really well. Okay, yeah. Great. Sick, nice.
Starting point is 01:02:05 We did it. It's a fun word. It's a good word, but it's been- Synergy. It comes together really well. Kind of like 69. Shoot, dude. What?
Starting point is 01:02:13 Sick. Shoot, dude. Sick, brother. Oh, shoot. Whoa. Oh, shit. Shirt. I'm shitted.
Starting point is 01:02:23 That's my favorite thing to say. I'm so shitted. I'm so shitted right now. top 10 youtube channels who have shitted number one smosh oh my gosh can i bring something up it is semi-smosh related um something happened on valentine's day to anthony i saw so he did a video um like uh with um about like jake paul fans about Jake Paul fans. Oh, okay, yeah. I saw that one. And Jake Paul got mad on Twitter and tweeted at him. There was an article about it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Can I? What? I did not see this. Is this a little off topic? No, it's not. Nothing's off topic. I know, because YouTubers that have shitted, there was some shitted happening on Twitter
Starting point is 01:02:59 about- Can I just put it up on my laptop? Is that the definition of shitted? No, not at all. I have no idea what the definition of shitted is. Shitted means anything we want. It was Dexerto.com. Oh, that garbage website.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I've never seen this website in my life, but it was like, Jake Paul calls former Smosh YouTuber Anthony Batia an imbecile in heated tweets. Jake doesn't know those kinds of words. Apparently. That was Jake's lawyer. What is this photo they have of Anthony? It's apparently. That was Jake's lawyer. Jake. What is this photo
Starting point is 01:03:25 they have of Anthony? He's like. It's like basically how they looked in the conversation. We're not gonna be able to show that to anybody, but Anthony is like,
Starting point is 01:03:32 uh, and Jake's like, mm. Controversial YouTuber Jake Paul is beefing with former Smosh member Anthony Padilla due to his video
Starting point is 01:03:40 discussing Paul's fiascos with his young fan base and their parents. But seriously, apparently Jake tried to DM Anthony about it because he was upset. And since I guess Anthony didn't get a chance to read it, I'm sure his DMs are nuts. And so Jake decided to make it public and tweeted at him being like, like, yo, what's the problem? What did he say?
Starting point is 01:04:02 He said, you're making videos with my fans to try and make them and me look bad. I've never had a hater mentality, so maybe I'm missing something, but you should be upset with yourself. Oh, no. That's wild. Anthony should box him. Actually, he might have a chance.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I think Anthony's got some reach. Anthony's a lover, he's not a fighter. Anthony's not a fighter at all. I don't think Anthony's got some reach. But I don't. He's been training. Anthony's a lover, not a fighter. Anthony's been training, but yes, he's a lover. Anthony's not a fighter at all. I don't think Anthony, I don't think neither Anthony nor myself have ever been in a real fight before. Accidental fights. I've never been punched in the face in my life. On purpose. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Anthony punched me in the face and broke my nose. Yeah. Uh-oh. Why did I remember that? Not you. That was on a video. I don't know. Well, because I got punched in the face.
Starting point is 01:04:46 That's why I don't remember. And because I'm a true fan. He was practicing. Yeah, Jake Paul tried to start beef with us once, and I just ignored the tweet. Oh, he was mad at- We don't need to- I don't even want to-
Starting point is 01:04:59 Something- I don't even want to. Yeah, it's whatever. It's not worth it. It's whatever. But yeah, that sucks. Well, that was very Valentine's-like. Yeah, there's no love in that.
Starting point is 01:05:09 We were all single on Valentine's Day. I know, dude. Oh, yeah. We were all very single. All three of us were single on Valentine's Day. This is actually my first time. This might be my first time as an adult being single on V-Day. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Really? Wow, really? Holy crap. I've been single being single on V-Day. Whoa. Really? Wow, really? Holy crap. I've been single on many a V-Day. This is my first single V-Day in like three years. Aw. All right, well, less of a pound, but I'll pound it. Goop.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Yeah, you know, I tried to find love on Valentine's Day. I went and saw Alita Battle Angel, and I did not love that. Aw. So my brother said it was really good. He was like raving about it. Do you get used to the eyes? It's got cool CGI, it's got really cool fights. Do you get used to the giant eyeballs?
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah, I was not bothered by that at all. But look, I will never hate on someone liking a movie because I like plenty of bad movies. The dialogue is pretty garbage sometimes, I think. There's parts that she's like, what's with this girl? Oh, she. That's chappy.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Literally. No, the movie started. You see her within the first two seconds, and I turn to my friend. You see the battle angel? You see the battle angel, and I turn to my friend and I just go, that's Alita, the battle angel. Oh my God. I don't get excited when I see James Cameron's, and I turn to my friend, and I just go, that's Alita, the battle angel. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I don't get excited when I see James Cameron's name attached to things. I do, because I feel like there's always technical advances that are awesome. Yeah, technically, and he obviously knows how to create a blockbuster, considering he made two of the largest movies ever. Literally, yeah. One of which now has four sequels planned. Have you seen the titles? It's sequels planned. Have you seen the titles? It's been ten years. Have you seen the titles for the Avatar movies? It's been ten years.
Starting point is 01:06:49 We're going to get some old, wrinkly, blue aliens in this next one. Wait, seriously? Four sequels you said? Yeah. They planned a billion. I cannot believe that. Avatar, that movie, people commit suicide because of that movie. because that world
Starting point is 01:07:05 that was created was so beautiful because they thought what was it called Pandora was that the name Pandora was the planet I saw that movie
Starting point is 01:07:11 seven times I saw it once in theaters I was in second row far right it was 3D still loved it I was sitting next to Johnny who was wearing
Starting point is 01:07:19 a leather jacket get ready for Avatar the way of water Avatar the seed bearer Avatar the token leather jacket. Get ready for Avatar, The Way of Water. Avatar, The Seed Bearer. Avatar, The Token
Starting point is 01:07:29 Rider. And Avatar, The Last Airbender. Yeah, he's just like, screw it, I'm buying the franchise. And Avatar, The Quest for Ewa. Yo, these are straight up sci-fi novels.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Sick. Like really bad. And look, I'll say this too. There's different aspects of movies that I enjoy, right? And with this one, like Alita, and same with Avatar, I'm like, I'm not going to this movie for the insanely good dialogue or story structure. I'm going because it's going to be epic. I enjoyed Avatar when I first saw it.
Starting point is 01:08:06 But like there's not a fan base for Avatar. You don't see people going to Comic Con dressed up as their favorite Avatar character. They're not eight feet tall and blue. Oh true. But they don't even want to be Captain Scarface man with the big knife.
Starting point is 01:08:22 That's right. Captain Scarface man with the knife. Or like tough Pilot Girl. Did you see the Halloween costumes for avatars? Olivia had to wear one for every costume party ever or something. Yeah, they're bad. That was real rough. Yeah, they're not good. Real rough.
Starting point is 01:08:36 The only good bodysuit costume I've ever seen was the Zero Suit Samus one. That one was like good material and fit really well. I even tried buying the Captain Marvel one by that same company, but that one didn't fit as well. Like the material was loose and weird. Well, maybe in the next Avatar they'll come out with a better bodysuit, and then we can all live out our Na'vi fantasies. They've had 10 years to develop it, so hopefully.
Starting point is 01:09:03 All right. Well, that about does it for this first podcast. Wow. We're running out of time. I swear we'll get better at this. So stick around. Hey, we did okay. I honestly really enjoyed this.
Starting point is 01:09:18 This went a lot better than I thought it was going to go. I have to say, good job, guys. We're fist pounding. Fist pounding in the center. For those that are just listening, we're doing a triple fist pound. Oh my God, Captain Planet, Captain Planet.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Oh no. Please subscribe to this podcast on whatever you're listening to this on or if you're watching this on our YouTube channel, I don't, is this YouTube channel
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Starting point is 01:09:46 We're going to have some people that you've seen in Smosh videos. We're going to have some people possibly from behind the scenes, but that are part of the Smosh family. Yeah. And we're going to bring in some of our friends from the YouTube realm from time to time. And Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
Starting point is 01:10:03 He'll be on every other week. And I'm trying to get in contact with Alita the Battle Angel to come on yeah we'll see well it just feels really good
Starting point is 01:10:13 to be here okay I really am happy things are going so well I'm happy too I love you guys I love you guys alright and we love you
Starting point is 01:10:22 and we love you I love you listening in your little ears you guys I kind of love but I definitely love you guys. Alright. And we love you. And we love you. I love you. You guys. Listening in your little ears. I kind of love, but I definitely love you guys. Yes. Ew, come on. I had to do it to them. you

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