Smosh Mouth - S1: #10 - "I'm Nothing Without My Following" and Tinder For Hot Dogs

Episode Date: April 24, 2019

Shayne and Smosh’s long-time Staff Writer Monica Vasandani join Ian on this week’s SmoshCast to talk about Jessy Taylor’s infamous Insta breakdown, that one time Ian got racially profiled, and the Smosh sketch Shayne REALLY wants to get green-lit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Now I'm swimming along and this big nurse shark appears on my right side And I had to keep kicking it with my And then on my other side this Barracuda shows up I got to experience One of my first times

Ever being racially profiled Monica had a few pitches she was like this sketch This sketch and tinder for hot dogs Was an idea I had and I just go Yes! There's this like kind of character voice I do sometimes that my wife hates that I'm not allowed to do, and it's horny baby.

Oh, baby want. And Monica, levels please. A pee-pee poo-poo, pee-pee, poo-poo pee-pee, caca pee-pee poo-poo. Yeah, hey, I'll be talking like this. Pee pee poo poo, pee pee poo poo. Well, guess what? It's another Smoshcast.

We're still alive. Yay. Oh. Hello, everybody. I'm joined today by Shane Topp and our wonderful, illustrious writer, Monica Vasandani. Hi. Hi. Thank you for coming, Monica.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for being so illustrious. I'm super illustrious. I heard that word not that long ago, and I was like, that's a good word. I'm jacking it. 100% don't know what that means. Good. I'm a writer.

I can't tell you with absolute certainty. Imaginative, I'm guessing? Is it illustrious, like illustration? I think it's like a... Visually... Like a very, like... It's obviously a good thing. Like, if you've had an illustrious career, it's like a... It's a bountiful of good things.

I think of it as the same as voluptuous. Oh. Yeah, so it was weird. Yeah. But, like voluptuous. Oh, yeah. So that was weird. But like really nice. But nice, though. I'm going to look it up right now. Well-known, respected and admired for past achievements. Huh.

That is correct. That's OK. Yeah. I mean, I don't know about respected, but I don't know where to go with that. We'll cut that one out uh before we jump before we jump too much into this um i just want to give a huge shout out to to y'all that are listening um you guys are super awesome i looked at the itunes rating of the smosh cast it has five friggin stars with over a thousand ratings.

We did not ask you guys to do this and you did it. And thank you. And if you feel like rating it and saying nice things about us still, I encourage it and keep it up. And thank you for listening, of course. So I guess let's just jump right into, Monica, you told me like two days ago that

when you first came on to Smosh, it took a while for you to warm up to me. That is correct. So one, I thought you knew this. No, I did not. Oh boy. Okay. So- I'm very oblivious to things. Because you've been here for, it's been years. Almost three years. Yeah. So for three for, it's been years. Almost three years. Yeah, so for three years you had no idea.

Nope. Okay, I'll explain myself. So when I first came on, I think my first week was VidCon. So none of the cast was in. And then I think right around that time, you guys also shot Smosh Games or Summer Games. So again, didn't really see you. And then you were working on Ghostmates. You were just this person who existed, but I was like, oh, he doesn't actually come into the office. And then you showed up and it was like you and Anthony just giving me notes and so I was like

okay so this guy I don't know is gonna come in here and tell me I'm not funny but like ultimately like at that time I didn't understand Smosh's voice yet yeah so really what I was writing didn't work at all but I didn't know how to take notes and so I don't know just so you're just kind of like fuck that guy kind of yeah so I was a villain like I knew that I was like oh this is this thing you built and so I had respect for that but at the same time I was like who's this guy it's also tough because at that point you and anthony had been making these sketches for so long you guys had your system yeah and so you were trying to come in and and write and help out with something and you're thrown into a completely new territory that you're figuring out and so you're getting all these notes and you're like where is this coming from it's like it's like a well-worn

wagon path you know like we've we've we've taken our oregon trail wagons across this trail for you know 12 years and we've we've worn in those ruts so then the moment monica comes in here and like a fucking tractor and just starts driving over our tracks like this is how you do it right hey guys let's go left yeah and like, whoa. That's not what we do. Here's some notes on how to drive a tractor our way. I don't know. This is a terrible analogy. I'm trying to wrap my head around it.

What I'm saying is, you know, way to judge me. I mean, eventually we got there. Yeah. Because you were working so hard on other stuff. You also weren't writing anything at that time. Yeah. So I like, I didn't hear any jokes you had written, but you were like, I hate your jokes, but like, wouldn't. I don't think I said in those words. No, no, not in those words. Like you were nice and diplomatic about it, but ultimately I got really sensitive. And so I was like, he's so mean. Yeah, that's true. Because we were like 100% focused on getting Ghostmates finished.

And then, yeah, Smosh Summer Games. So, yeah, we really were just, God, that was a crazy time. Like, because we were doing so much crap at once. And I had totally forgotten that, like, because that was Smosh Summer Games camp, where we were off in, like, some secluded forest area. In the middle of, like, working on the shoot, Anthony and I would go off and give, like, notes on Ghostmates and, like like figure that out so to to also have to be working on the sketches was was a little bit of a stretch yeah yeah there were definitely periods of time back then that were

nuts uh especially for you guys and i feel like all of us went through that sort of phase that you went through of like joining the new guy joining a comedy brand that's been around for well over a decade and you join and you're like, all right, how do I learn to learn this comedy's style while also bringing in my own? Because I'm sure early on I brought a bunch of sketches or ideas that it was just like, all right, cool. That's fun in Shane's mind. How do we make this fit and work um so what if we all just yell yeah well you brought i mean like one of the first things that you brought which was a which was in your audition was uh tom cruise working at a subway it was working at a chipotle chipotle yeah yeah and and so we were like like, obviously your Tom Cruise impersonation was great.

And we basically worked it into Tom Cruise was our roommate. Yeah. We're like, oh, okay, what's a scenario that would actually make more sense in the Smosh world? And then this fucking guy contacted us like six months later and was like, you stole my idea of Tom Cruise being a roommate. Like we had to like come to this like agreement. Cause he was, I want to say that I would never do Tom Cruise ever again.

Yeah. Channel or something. It was, it was, it sucked. Cause we like, we vividly remembered organically coming to the idea. Yeah.

And also our sketch beyond just the overall idea was so different. But I felt awful because I was like, oh, great. I'm the worst person. And that's when you were new? I was brand new. And I was like, God, this sucks. What are the chances of this? And the sketch was seven years prior.

So I'm like, I can't scour the internet every time and be like, oh, this is relatively close. But I think now we're pretty good about like, as soon as we have an idea and it's, we're like, oh, this has some traction. We immediately just search everything for any combination of words just to make sure we're not. It's still, it's still scarred me with tweets, with everything. I'm like, has this been done before? And I'll often in pitch meetings, just pitching an idea. It still scarred me. For the most part, yeah. With tweets, with everything, I'm like, has this been done before?

And I'll often, in pitch meetings, just pitching an idea. I'll be like, this may have been done before. I just want to get that out there. But this is my idea. And, you know. It's also like everything's kind of been done before. Like there are very few ideas that are 100% fresh. Right.

Especially on YouTube specifically because there are certain things that, you know, do well or that we go after. And it's you sometimes have to be like two people in the entire universe are going to have a similar thought it was just it was weird with the Tom Cruise roommate thing we were just kind of like fine

it wasn't a big deal it's not something we're going to waste our time like you know getting into a legal battle about right I will say

Macaulay Culkin tweeted something that I tweeted oh so you got to get him yeah verbatim he added a word to the end Macaulay Culkin tweeted something that I tweeted. Oh. So. You got to get him. Yeah. Verbatim?

He added a word to the end. Should we go after him? I think we should. I posted screenshots of both of our tweets. It got 10 likes and no one really cared. Oh, okay. In your defense, his tweet was, as an Indian woman, I feel. How I start all of my tweets.

Yeah. All of my tweets. Yeah. All of your tweets are that. I'm glad they expanded the character count because I was really not getting much more in there. That's how you could get around having your stuff stolen. Just say, as an Indian American woman, this, this, this, who also has a little baby boy, and then you have three characters left for your actual joke on your Twitter. this, this, this, who also has a little baby boy.

And then you have like three characters left for your actual joke on your Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds good. That's smart. Way to go, Ian. So one thing that the viewers might notice, listeners can't see us, I'm sorry, but for some reason we all wore pastel today.

It was entirely planned on Monica and I's part. We brought it up yesterday. And you were there when- I wasn't listening. Yeah, well- You were 100% physically there. That sounds about right. Yeah.

I looked you dead in the eyes as I said it. And I just blinked. And you nodded. I just had a soulless look in my eyes and went, uh-huh. Sounds good. No, what was it? What was it? Was it two days ago that you were talking about,

or we were talking about Ian not paying attention. Yes. You entered and we were like, yeah, we were talking about something. And you're like, oh yeah, that thing. And we're like, what thing are you thinking we're talking about? And you're like, oh, the thing. And we're like, I thought you said, what are you talking about? And then you lost track of what you were saying and forgot you were in a conversation because i realized i realized that i completely heard you guys wrong when i walked in because because i

there's a big topic that i wanted to talk about on this podcast and i was coming in there excited to be like hey guys we should talk about this and then I could have fucking sworn that you guys were saying that as I walked in. So I was like, Oh my God. Yes. Let's talk about that. And you guys are like,

huh? And then I was like, Oh, it took us 10 solid minutes to coax it out of you. Cause we kept asking what you were talking about and you were like refusing to tell us until we told you what we were talking about. So weird. Yeah.

What were you guys talking about? I don't remember. I don't even remember. It wasn't important. It was probably like something mildly personal. Wait, no, weren't we literally talking about Ian in meetings? No, that was because we were talking about someone feeling worthless. Oh, well, there you go.

Someone. I'm worthless in meetings? No, you're not worthless in meetings. No. No, that's a different subject. That's different. What is going on? Shane, you're getting adjusted.

I'm getting adjusted. For those who are just listening on audio, someone came in and I had thrown up a little bit on my shirt. Kevin, our producer. Producer Kevin. Sorry. You know, Vinity also stood up. There was people moving around. Someone

put a weird hat on me. Someone gave you a little handy under the table. Yes. That wasn't Kevin. I don't know who did that. How do I get in on that? Surprise. Great. I'm waiting. Well, you have to earn your keep here at Smosh. That doesn't come until you unlock year five.

Okay. I'm not even on year five. I can't. Shay got his handy early. I'm not even on year four yet. What? I'm not. Really?

Not yet. Are you sure? I am 100% positive. When did you start? I started in June. Okay. But we were talking to you probably around this time, right? Yeah.

It took a while. It took a while to finalize. It took a while to coax me in. Yeah. I was like outside and you're like, you're like, come on, come on. And I'm like, and I like would get, I'd be like, oh, and then I'd run away and you'd have to get some bread and toss it, put it out in lines. And I'd like be like.

And then the final thing that got him was the handy contract. The handy contract. But I said, if you're, I said, if your biceps get swole enough, I can cut a year off that contract. Oh, so I just got to get swole. Cha. But you're already swole. Oh my God. Thank you, Shane.

I've gone rock climbing with, with Monica and she kicks ass. Do you like, do you like rock climbing or bouldering better? So I just started bouldering, which if you aren't familiar with climbing, bouldering is shorter walls and no ropes, but there are pads under you. So you just kind of hop off and then roped climbing, taller walls, you're attached by a rope. And I started recently and I actually really like it. I kind of roasted it for a while because there's definitely two different camps of climbers. And the people that I climbed with were also very anti-bouldering, so we would just talk shit. And then I started doing it, and I fell in love.

Because it's more, like, technical, right? It's, like, small challenges, and, like, you can constantly fail and then get back up and try to do it again. Yeah, you can really, like, you spend a lot of time getting one move right. Whereas I feel like sometimes when I'm on a taller wall, I'm just focused on moving on to the next part and not nailing the move really precisely. Yeah, I freak out immediately. Once I get like five feet off the ground, I'm like, but what if my guy doesn't catch me? I'm a very risk averse person.

My dad was definitely more of the risk taker. He did hang gliding and all that stuff. That's crazy. Yeah. Being like way up in the sky or being in the ocean really scares me. Yeah. Ocean doesn't scare me. Really?

Dude, it's, but it's the same type of feeling where it's weird. Cause I remember when I was younger, we would go to Key West and go fishing and we'd be out like 15, 20 miles. And there was one vivid memory I have of just jumping into the ocean. Just like I was in my swim trunks and I was like, let's just jump in. It's just like, we don't know. You don't belong there. Where this goes, um, my great, great, great ancestors were fish.

Have you heard of thalassophobia? That's what, yeah, the fear of the deep. Is it open water or? It's a compulsive fear of the sea or really any deep, dark body of water. I don't think that I have a compulsive fear. I just understand that we're not meant to be there. I will admit, there was a time when I was snorkeling, and the water can get really murky, whatever.

And I was probably like nine years old, and I was swimming along, and my dad was spearfishing, so he would sometimes just go way ahead, and he would leave me just like kind of by myself. Nope. And there was a time the water was really murky. He was trying to kill you. Probably.

And there's these fish called tarpon and they can get up to like eight, nine feet or no, not a, but like six,

seven feet, right? So like a school of just massive ones suddenly just like comes towards me and they just appear. So you just suddenly see these massive things

and they're so close to you. It's really trippy that it's just all this stuff is always around. Did one touch you? No, but you will touch things. Like things get so close. There was a time when my dad was, he was, he had some fish that he'd killed and he gave me the ring of dead fish. So I had three dead fish. I'm like, same age.

You mean the shark bait? And I'm swimming along and this big nurse shark appears on my right side and is like, I'm going to take those. Like, I'm going to get those. And this shark is way bigger than me, but I know it's not a shark that'll kill me. Yeah. But it's swimming towards me and I had to keep kicking it with my livers. And then on my other side, this barracuda shows up.

Oh, yeah. And barracudas are actually terrifying. Those are frightening. They look like a Disney villain. And it's trying to get it on my... So I'm sandwiched between them both. And I'm like, I'm like kind of like trying to yell, but I have a snorkel in my mouth. So to confirm, your dad left you.

Yeah. And you didn't die. So then he was like, hold these fish. I'll be back in shark infested waters. You do that all the time. Actually, my brother, when he was younger, this was years prior, same situation, a shark did bite his hand with the ring of fish

and bit the glove. Luckily, he was wearing a glove. What the hell? But it took the glove off and took the ring and he comes up and he goes, Dad, I like whatever,

like the shark bit the ring out of my hand and stuff. My dad goes, you lost the ring? Oh my God. Oh my God. Very, and stuff. My dad goes, you lost the ring? Oh my God. Oh my God. Very, very intense. My dad is insane when he gets in the water.

Shane, I don't know if this is too personal, but do you think your dad ever wanted kids? Ah! Or do you think he wanted- He wanted to go out to the sea. Did he have a life insurance policy out on you? Maybe. How often did...

Hi, I'm going to go out to the ocean with my eight-year-old son. I'd like to get... Just in case he dies, I want to make sure I get some money. Yeah. How often did he make you hold the dead fish that are bleeding in the ocean and attracting sharks and barracudas? Well, all the time. Oh, my God.

Did he ever hold all those fish? It was only that one time. That really sucked. I hated it. Because it didn't work out. So you had to... Yeah. No, he gave up. He That really sucked. I hated it. Because it didn't work out. Yeah, no, he gave up. He's like, ah, not this.

The fish don't want him. Yeah. Well, nurse sharks aren't. Even the fish don't want him. Those aren't dangerous, right? Nurse sharks aren't dangerous, no. But they'll try to get fish if you have them. And same with barracudas. They're not dangerous.

They're not going to go for a person. But if you're wearing, like you shouldn't wear jewelry or anything, anything shiny because fish will just go up and bite your ear off or something. I'm going to have to Take off all my earrings. Don't do it, Ian. Sorry. It's just part of your personality. I know. I look so fabulous.

Thank you. I'm sorry that, you know, your dad tried to get you killed. It's okay. It made me, it made me who I am. A YouTuber. A disappointment. A disappointment. This is how Monica talks.

Like even when she is genuinely super excited, you're at this level. Like, it's always, I feel like. You're always like, oh, yeah, I'm really excited about that. That's very cool. It's there. Also, Monica, you like to make people feel awkward. Like, sometimes you'll just, and I guess I do it sometimes too, but, like, you'll be like, yeah I guess I do it sometimes too, but like,

you'll be like, yeah, that's interesting. And then just stare. Can you make Ian feel awkward? Yeah. Because I feel like it's not possible

with him. Well, I mean, there's a normal thing she does, but then also horny baby. That's the best though.

Monica, and I don't, how did horny baby even come across? How did that even come up? I don't remember how it came up. I think we were just talking about characters. Oh, here's what it was. I came in

and I was like, oh, there's this kind of character voice I do sometimes that my wife hates that I'm not allowed to do. And it's Horny Baby. Baby, you want a fucky um and so I wanted to do it at work because you can't get it out it's fun to do

yeah and I can't do it at home oh my god but then you bust it out I'm like I'm like oh no it feels bad it feels bad to do it

but it's such a fun voice to do does horny baby have any other lines? That's pretty much it. That's it. It's a baby. Babies don't know many words. They just know baby and want and fucky. Yeah.

Yeah. Great. I hope so many kids are listening to this podcast with their parents. I hope that my son does not unearth this. Yeah. Oh, he will. Tinder for hot dogs. Tinder for hot dogs.

Yeah, what about it? Tinder for hot dogs was a sketch that you pitched. Shane and I were locked in a room. I still feel like we might do it. Oh, we're going to do it at some point. And you know when we're going to do it?

Hold on. Well, first let's talk about Tinder for hot dogs. Yes. Because whenever Monica and I are, you know, it's like, hey, sometimes they'll be like, hey, Monica, Shane, go come up with some ideas for stuff or write out some stuff. We need some new sketch pitches, whatever. And Monica and I will hit on a topic and we're like, that's it. That's gold. ideas for stuff or write out some stuff we need some new sketch pitches whatever and monica and i will we'll hit on a topic and we're like that's it that's gold when usually it is not sometimes it is anyways uh monica had a few pitches she was like this sketch this sketch and tinder for hot dogs

was an idea i had and i just go yes, this is obviously a great idea and viable. Yeah. So yeah, so then I pitched it at a pitch meeting and no one gave it the respect it deserved. Well, hold on. I'm pretty sure I said something akin to, yes. I mean, dude, Tinder, come on. First of all, beyond a sketch, it's a good idea.

It's just a genuinely good product. You want a hot dog, but there's many types of hot dogs. But the world, our economy doesn't cater to differentiating between hot dog tastes. Right. And for hot dogs being such an American food, we don't put it in the spotlight enough. We really don't. This is true. It's like sometimes you're in the mood for Nathan's.

Sometimes you're in the mood for Hebrew National. But see, you're talking about different brands. We really don't. This is true. And it's like, sometimes you're in the mood for a Nathan's, sometimes you're in the mood for a Hebrew National. But see, you're talking about different brands. We're going beyond that. See, Tinder for hot dogs.

From the simplicity of an app on your phone. Go on. You're getting like, do you want a bratwurst? Do you want, do you want beef? Do you want turkey?

These are all the different types of dogs. What flavor profile do you want? What flavor profile? What sauces do you want? You know, it gets any type of buns you get. Oh my God, the extremes, you know.

And you want to know that it's close by. Like I want to know that I don't have to travel more than four miles. Yeah, you want to see how close. And you can specify in your bio. It's like dogs under six inches, swipe, swipe, swipe left. Get really specific with it. this podcast is brought to you by tinder for hot dogs no it's great it's a great idea

it's funny but it's also good I have to admit I tried to write it I got nowhere I think Ryan Finnerty like left me an hour to write it and I tried so hard. I got six lines in, and I was like, I'm just going to work on something else

because I hate this while I'm working on it. Just hand me the reins, and I'll give you an autobiography on Tinder for Hot Dogs. You're going to write Tinder for Hot Dogs. Is that what you're saying right here? But an autobiography, so from the point of view of Tinder for hot dogs. I don't know what I was going. I'll give you a book, The Size of the Odyssey for Tinder for hot dogs. You know what I think?

I think if enough listeners give us a five-star review with the review saying, make Tinder for hot dogs, then we're going to have to make Tinder for hot dogs. If we get enough five-star reviews on this podcast. And if you guys go to the YouTube and like it and subscribe. Yes. If we get 50,000 likes on YouTube, on the Smoshcast YouTube video about this. We'll make Tinder for hot dogs.

We'll make Tinder for hot dogs. Make my dreams come true, please. Somebody do something for Shane. I can't stress I can't stress how much I want Tinder for hot dogs made. And this is the only way that it's going to get made, guys.

You all have to come out in droves and support this podcast in every way possible on YouTube, on, on Spotify, on iTunes, in every way. And Tinder hot dog,

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you went to FITM, right? Yes, I did. And that stands for? Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising. That also really works, like FITM, like, you know, because you're making stuff that people fit into. Tell me about those pants. They fit them. Where does this fit into? Oh, dang. Got them. Nice. Where does this, how did you end up?

So you went to college for like fashion and merchandising and stuff. Yeah, kind of. Not exactly by choice. Okay. My grades were really bad in high school. And so I couldn't get into a lot of schools. But I was like, I can go kind of a trade school. You couldn't fulfill the immigrant parents' desires of becoming a lawyer or a doctor. Right.

So fashion. Yeah. What did you want to be when you were growing up? Oh, I wanted to be a comedian. Oh, really? Yeah. From like early, very early on. Yeah, when I was like very young, I used to write a lot and I used to on, I used to jack

my brother's talk boy and do like a little radio show and like, and make my family listen to it. And I think they didn't like it that much. And now you're on a podcast, you're gonna make your family listen to it and i think they didn't like it that much and now you're on a podcast you're gonna make your family listen to this oh i would hate it if they listen to this oh man i miss talk boy i don't even know what that is oh my god it's just like a little tape recorder um okay but it was marketed for children cool yeah cool there's a classic old, or was that Yak Pack?

I'm getting confused with the Yak Pack, I think. Talk Boy was similar, but they have a commercial where it's like, this like boy like sneaks up on like his like sister making out with the boy.

And he's like, stop drooling on me. That's, I think that's Talk Boy. That sounds like the nineties. It sounds like a nineties commercial. Oh, it was the most nineties commercial ever.

And then they made the Talk Girl. Oh, it was the most 90s commercial ever. And then they made the talk girl. Oh, it was just pink, right? Yeah. I was like, wait, girls aren't buying this because it's blue. We got to make it pink. It was gray, which is a gender neutral color. But because they had boy in the title, they were like, oh, now we can, yeah, get more of the market. Love the 90s.

Different time. So you had to talk boy. Yes. Wow. Because it was my brother's and we often shared one toy. What? Like we were given one thing to share. Like when we both wanted a toy.

That sucks. We were given one of them. That sucks. What? That's a bummer. That's a real bummer. One toy. How old was your brother?

Were you the same age? He's two years older than me. Okay. And I get it because my parents were never going to get their money's worth if they're like, let me buy two of the identical thing, and then it would be abandoned. I've been to your parents' house, Monica. They're doing okay. Yeah, because they didn't waste their money on two toys for two kids.

They didn't buy so many Talk Boys. They saved doing okay. Yeah, because they didn't waste their money on two toys for two kids. They didn't buy so many Talk Boys. They saved up instead. I get it because, like, now I have nieces and a nephew or whatever, and I see, like, you get a toy for them, and it's like, that'll be done within a month. Oh, yeah. Like, they're going to get bored with that. So I fully understand where your parents are coming from.

But remembering as a kid, I would have hated that. I would have hated having to share every single thing. I think I didn't know any better. But also my brother and I used to fight and beat the shit out of each other. Well, that's why. Were you bigger than your brother? No. Were you older than your brother?

No. But I used to bite him and then cry to my parents that he started it. Nice. The ultimate little sister move. And you only became better because you were on wrestling team, right? Yeah. And then I remember back in the day when Kurt Maloney still wrote with us, he was like, yeah, if you try to wrestle Monica, she will defeat you.

Yeah. Yeah. Ian and I. I tried. You tried to. Well, I. Ian didn't go that hard because. I just don't.

I just don't know what's what's OK and what's not okay in a play wrestling match. So I challenged- She was saying that Kurt would- She would throw down. Yeah. And she'd beat Kurt at wrestling. And for those listening, Monica is- How tall are you?

Five feet. Yes. And Kurt Maloney is like 5'11", whatever. But yeah, you would destroy him if I remember correctly. I only heard about it, but he was like- We were pretty evenly matched, but usually I would come out if I remember correctly. I only heard about it, but he was like, we were pretty evenly matched, but usually I would come out on top. Yeah.

So I, I tried to, I tried to play wrestle Monica. And then I want to say, you just kind of like, you just kind of hopped on my back or something. You, you just kind of like a little spider on me.

Yeah. And then I, I just admitted to, I believe I admitted defeat. And I was like, or just a stalemate. This is a weird thing to be doing. I think I had a moment of clarity.

Yeah, I think we both did. We are at an office party right now. Someone's going to get hurt. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. We kind of both had a moment of clarity from the time that probably 30 seconds after I realized that you were just stuck on my back and nothing was going to change. So you did wrestling in high school, which there's a great photo that we have floating around here somewhere. Yeah, I brought in, I found like my wallet size freshman year wrestling picture.

So I brought one into the office. It's so great. It's you just in this like the wrestling position. I'm sure everybody's wrestling photos the same. Yes. It's just kind of like a. Yeah. Like just like crouched. It's pretty great. Yeah, Yes. It's just kind of like a, eh. Yeah. Like, just like crouched.

It's pretty great. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly that. Did you ever wrestle? Were there other girls that you wrestled against? Yeah, so there weren't that many girls, but there were tournaments that were girls only. And then a few teams did have girls on their, like,

varsity lineup or whatever, so. I mean, because with wrestling, like, the weight classes are so defined right yes so so to get another girl that just so happens to be in your weight this is not like cross country where it's just like everyone just runs at the same time and it doesn't matter how good get out of there yeah just like go through the woods or something and then come back eventually go away and then come back so if there wasn't a girl in your weight class would you wrestle a guy then yes and then were they like i mean it's high school so everybody's just awkward yes but like was that just like really weird for them yeah some guys refused wow to wrestle me did they ever give it like on what grounds was it like they just did it for, they thought of it as a lose-lose.

Because either you beat a girl or you lose to a girl. And because of sexism, that's like bad. That sucks. Either way. That sucks. I mean, there's definitely no toxic masculinity in wrestling. No. Come on.

I mean, on the flip side, you definitely have to be comfortable with yourself if you're going to like walk around a little like, little onesie or what do you call that? Singlet. Yeah. I can't imagine doing anything like that. And I mean, I guess I'm the one, I did swimming for a while when I was like early teens

and having to wear those Speedos or whatever. I'm like, this is, this sucks. Being a teenager, a teenage girl, like show, like being like, oh, everyone can see my whole body. Cool. That was also when I asked my mom to start buying me thongs because I was like, I can't be the girl with the panty line. Oh, in the singlet.

In the singlet. Yep. Yeah. That's about when I asked my mom for thongs. Yeah. Yeah. She said no. I'm sorry.

No, you know. You're an adult now. You can get your own thongs. Oh, trust me. I do. I'm sorry. Well, you know. You're an adult now. You can get your own thongs. Oh, trust me, I do. Good. Yeah. Monica, when I was over at your parents' place, it was your baby shower? Yeah, my wife's baby shower.

It was your wife's baby shower. I mean, because she carried the baby. I didn't do anything. I was just there. I just rooted her on. I guess I never thought about that Yeah Alright

So yeah You didn't do anything At all I do now Yeah I just left her alone For nine months Yeah Well good luck with that

You left her out in the woods Yeah like cross country Yeah It was It was at your parents place Where I I got to experience One of my One of my first times ever being racially profiled.

Yeah, you got to see how it felt. Yeah, and it was fun. One of Monica's relatives came up to me and she started talking to me. She assumed that I knew this guy. The only reason she assumed I knew the guy was because this guy was also white with a beard and glasses and glasses and she assumed that you know all the white guys with beards and glasses know each other

well did you know him no i didn't i didn't know him you freaking know him you're like oh yeah damn it but uh but i i didn't take offense to it but it was it was funny to me because i was like i was actually a little excited because i was like oh it's my first time being racially profiled yeah that's how it feels every time i do i get a ribbon is that how this works do i get do i get anything for it uh you just yeah you get treated like a second class citizen oh okay yeah it's awesome um okay that's good to know actually no it's my second time being racially profiled earlier in the year um i was at a thai food place and i asked for a certain spice level and the guy was like are you sure and i was like yeah i mean like it shouldn't be too bad and

then like the the the lady that ran the place came out and she was like are you sure i was like okay i guess i'll get the less spicy and it came out and it wasn't spicy. And I was like, I think I've been racially profiled. I don't think that's because you're white. I think that's just because you look like a huge wuss. Yeah. You're a very soft man.

Yeah. I'm a soft boy, but I do like my spice. Yeah. You're soft on the outside. Wow. Being racially profiled twice. Yeah.

I don't know. It's tough. Like what's. I think I've been racially profiled less, but I don't know. I can't remember yeah I don't know it's tough like what's I think I've been racially profiled less but I don't know I can't remember I don't know I feel like I

I wouldn't know I mean I I assume everything's personal between you and Damien well yeah we're the same person yeah literally the same

that's because we're on we're on Disney Channel I don't think about it all the time but I'm sure that I've been treated differently by some people, like based on my race or being a woman or being gay.

But I don't think about it because I'll never know which one it is. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of hit the lotto, Monica, of like things you could be discriminated against yeah so i just i can't because then i will drive myself crazy trying to be like well is this person more uh like are they more of a homophobe or more of a racist and you ask them and it makes them short circuit because they're like i don't know why i'm mad at you like which one i need to pick one to be mad at you and they just yeah sparks fly out of their neck Did you grow up in an area that was like welcoming of it?

Or did you kind of keep a lot of it like under wraps? I mean, I think that you're talking about being queer, right? Not being brown. Being short-circuited. They knew. Yes, yes. I grew up like in the suburbs outside of L.A. So because it's Southern California, there is definitely like people are accepting and a little bit more liberal.

But it was a suburban area. So I still like I didn't feel 100 percent comfortable there. But it was also within my own home life and stuff. I didn't feel 100% comfortable there, but it was also within my own home life and stuff. I didn't feel 100% comfortable. And of course, you know, my family has now come around and been really supportive, but it took a while to get there. In like high school and stuff, were you out then or was it just kind of like a thing where like, I can't fucking deal with this right now. I'm going to wait till after, or I guess I don't even know if it's, I don't even know if that's the decision process. I came out when I was 16 and it's, and I kind of started before that where, you know, I'd tell a

couple people and got a generally accepting reaction. And so became a little more comfortable with myself and got to a point where I was like, well, if this person doesn't like me or accept me, then it's better that I know. And then, because this is who I am. So, so yeah, I came out in high school, which at that time, not a lot of people were out in high school. Yeah. Because this was. I feel like, because we're like the same age and I feel like we were on, we were on that cutting, that sort of like edge of like Prop 8 passed. Prop 8 was the California law that banned gay marriage.

Yeah. And that passed in like 2008. Right. And so, and I was 16 in like 2003. Yeah. So yeah, five years before people were still like, Hey, we don't like this. It's gross. Yeah. I didn't know anybody in high school that, that was out. Like I knew a couple of people came out afterwards, but in my high school, I mean, there was, there was maybe one girl that was like very much out. Other than that, I didn't know anybody.

I didn't have any gay friends that I knew of. So it was very weird. Like I feel like nowadays it's much more encouraged. I mean, visibility really helps. Like when you have people that you can look to and, and know that there are, uh, successful people who are like you, um, you know, aren't like who are doing well and they're happy. It gives you the courage to come out and living in a time when it's everyone's quiet about it. It makes it even more difficult to be the person who is like the first person out of all your

friends or whatever and like i guess like in like in the arts i guess it was always that was always a little more okay you know like if you saw someone successful as like an actor or like a theater actor and it was like it was like well yeah but that's like it's okay to be gay there but like you said like seeing other successful successful people, now like in business, you're finding like, oh, this person's gay, this person's gay. And politics.

Politics, same thing. So now it's like a much like broader thing where it was just like, before you would only see like very open people in like the arts. Yeah. And I think we're, I hope we get there with sports.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, oh man. Yeah. And I think we're, I hope we get there with sports. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, oh man. Yeah. It's tough with,

it's, I mean, yeah, it's the hope it's masculine, you know, very masculine industries. It's just like, it's such a tough fight,

man. Like it's tough to, I don't know. And it's probably, and I think some of that falls on the fans too. Oh, absolutely. I think most of it does.

It's just that culture. It's just, they're just not accepting of it. Cause I don't, I honestly don't think. They're the fans too. Oh, absolutely. I think most of it does. It's just that culture. It's just, they're just not accepting of it. Because I honestly don't think. They're not comfortable. Yeah. It's an insecure. I mean, masculinity is so insecure at its core. And that's the issue.

I honestly don't think a lot of the athletes even give a shit. Like, I think it's more on the. I think some of them do, but. Yeah. Yeah, it is on the i think some of them do but yeah yeah it is on the fans because um the la kings the hockey team uh they have a pride night once a season and um i follow them on instagram and they posted about pride night and i made the mistake of looking at the comments and it was just people being like why would you do this don't do this what about vets night and like

stuff that already exists? What? And it's such a bummer. Yeah. They're suddenly upset about things regarding that that they would never be upset about regarding anything else. It was the same as when, God, what is his name? There was the LA. It was when there was still the St. Louis Rams. There was a player who got drafted, and he was openly gay.

Yeah. Michael Sam. That's right. I was like, Sam. But he kissed got drafted and he was openly gay. Yeah. Michael Sam. That's right. I was like, Sam. But, you know, he kissed his boyfriend and people made a big deal. They're like, he did that on purpose to show it in our faces. I'm like, how many people lean and kiss their wife or girlfriend in the same? I bet you we can look in earlier in the same draft, but you have an issue with that because

you're looking for that and you're paying attention to that and you're upset about that. And a lot of people react to male on male affection as icky. And then girl on girl is hot. Basically, yeah. It's like hyper sexualized and it's like, this is icky. So I need to find a reason to justify why I don't like it because I can't just say it's icky. Yeah. You can't say it's because you're uncomfortable with yourself and with your own masculinity. Yeah. Because it is that it is obviously the cultural like

discriminatory view of it, but it's also in people I know who are like that. It's a fear of vulnerability. Right. And then, you know, it's a fear of like, here's someone who's just openly like there's there's an aspect of that. i think it's why sexism and homophobia i think are so tied especially with men regarding regarding that because it's just like it's a fear of of being more in touch with your emotions and stuff which is why the i feel like that side those same people who say those horrible things also are the ones who are rocking those mugs that say fuck your feelings so i'm like yeah because you kind of are scared of feelings right so it's better to just say i'm gonna kill feelings like shoot feelings with a gun as opposed to let yourself feel stuff and be okay

with a mug that says shoot your feelings with a gun feel empathy i'm sure it exists i'm gonna check um new smosh merch but like it, bringing it like back around to, to, to Smosh, like, you know, there's obviously all types of people that, that watch our stuff.

And, and I want our content to, to represent everyone. I want it. I don't want it to, you know, offend and offend people intentionally. Obviously some people are just going to be offended by the nature of a joke,

because jokes have their... Yeah. Tom Cruise people offend them. But I mean, that's where Monica, you're so instrumental, or as Courtney would say, detrimental on accident. She said that in the last podcast. She got those words mixed up. But I feel like you're a very big piece to this. And I don't mean to shoulder this burden on you. But being a woman, being a person of color, being queer, those are not life experiences that I have. Right. That I'm excited to have somebody like yourself who had a completely different life experience add that sort of knowledge and know-how and experience into Smosh.

Yeah, I mean, I definitely appreciate how much my voice is valued here. Because at first, especially, there was like a little bit of a fear. And I felt like I had to maybe conform to like everyone else's point of view, which, you know, everyone writing for Smosh was a straight white man, basically. So, you know, feeling like, oh, I have to adjust myself so that I fit in with this. And then realizing that I'm here because I have my own unique voice. And I don't think it's like a tokenism thing. I think it's just like, hey, let's make sure we have as many points of view as we can have in this. But then there are other times where it feels like a lot of responsibility to be like, oh, I'm here to speak for all people of color. I'm here to speak for all women. I'm here to speak for all queer people when there's no way to do that like i could do my

best to um do right by marginalized groups but there's no way that i can speak for all of them so does that like do you ever so you feel like that's a pressure sometimes like um sometimes and then sometimes i also feel like i i don't want to be the downer here but this is like like i'll i'll say hey this is kind of maybe not great for this group yeah here yeah um which you never want to be the downer in a room um but i think we all but whenever you've brought it up it's it's made sense. Like it hasn't been like, you know, a very, very like insane thing. And you're not the only one who's doing that. I feel like we've all as a group have gotten and we've gotten better about it.

Yeah. And I think it was a lot of that feeling of responsibility was just this like internalized thing that I have that I'm kind of working through. So, yeah, because I know that nobody ever, no one's goal is to hurt people because we want to do the opposite. Like we just want to make people laugh. We have a small amount of time. Should we talk about Jesse Taylor? Should we bring that up? All right. jesse taylor should we should we bring that up all right so so there was this there was this girl um she she's sort of like a controversial instagram user she posts a lot of like

like underwear photos bikini photos that kind stuff. Very like in your face kind of controversial person. Her name is Jesse Taylor. And, um, she attracted the ire of people online and they got her account, uh, deleted on Instagram. She had 130,000 followers. So she took to YouTube and, uh, went on this big tirade about how this was her life. And without her followers, her life is meaningless. And how she's, she says that she's not something to the degree that she's not like the 90% of people who can work a nine to five job. And she says that she's incapable of doing that. And that's why, and that's not why she moved to LA and she she also said she said like I'm worthless without

my followers and this is this is my favorite quote she told this website that her account being deleted felt like a murder she said I felt like it was a homicide like somebody murdered me and then went online to say, I murdered this girl. She then said, I called the police actually and told them about this

and they said, you can't compare a murder to this. And I was like, no, that's exactly what it felt like. That part's really funny. I called the police. This whole story and the video that she put out is a wild roller coaster.

It's a massive. Because we all watched this video together. And we started off being like, oh, God. And then it got us all to a point where we're like, oh, no. But then we went through every emotion. We were like, I was rooting for her. And then I was like, but I'm kind of disgusted, but like, I want the best for you. Cause it suddenly comes up that she used to be a prostitute and we're like, whoa.

Oh, okay. Okay. And it goes so many places. Do we know what exactly she did that they used to get it deleted? Well, I saw an old video. Cause that's a factor. I saw an old video where she very gleefully uh proclaimed that she's a racist oh yeah that's not great that's that's not so solid um she's like yeah i'm a racist i was like is that is that yeah not defending that's pretty

bad obviously i didn't see the context is there. Is there, like, I'm curious, if she's posting content like that all the time. Look, I went to her backup account, her Instagram account, and it's a very little substance. So, and she, her complaint was that there's plenty of other larger users that are controversial. So why can't she be controversial? Well, isn't the guy who took her – how great is the person who took her down too?

Because it's kind of like the guy who came after the director of Guardians of the Galaxy. The guy who came after him was also tweeting horrible stuff. I mean it's like – Right, right. Yeah. Well, the guy – it's not necessarily – I don't know if it's necessarily the guy or his fans, but the guy, well, I didn't do enough research, but there's a guy, Ice Poseidon, he's known for having like these very terrible fans that basically they ruin his life.

And that's, that's his whole kind of gimmick. Okay. Like they like swat him in public and, but he's made a career out of it, but he's also kind of attracted a very sort of toxic fan base. I think he, I think she sort of directed the ire of him and his fan base. So they came after her.

The craziest thing out of it was her saying, I'm nothing without my following. And it makes me wonder for us, like in this industry, what would your reaction be if you just suddenly it was gone? If all your social media just got deleted and you have to restart it all? Well, I mean, I think, I don't know why I always want to give people

the benefit of the doubt. But when she said that, she went on to say that it's because that was her income. So without followers, she had no income. It's true. I mean. Right. But then.

But also saying like, I will not work a nine to five job. Right. Like I have. She said like. Well, because she said she used to work at McDonald's and she hated it. But then she said she has no skills. Like she just went back and forth. It's all over the place.

You'll feel bad for a second. Between like, are you saying that other people like are worse than you for doing this stuff? Are you saying that you're like, they're better than you? Or what are you getting at here? I do think that video says a lot about society though. Yes. Yeah. I think there is a part of that mindset

that's in all of us. Yes. Because I think there is a part of that mindset that's in all of us. Yes, I think that anyone who's, like their main income or their job is essentially being in the public eye has a little bit of that, like I'm worthless without my followers. But if your whole brand is being controversial and being a problem.

And like, we give like way too much attention to the people that we really shouldn't give attention to. And she made a living off of it for a time. She claimed that she made $500,000 over the three years that- What? Yeah. Okay. So yeah. So she said she made $500,000 from her account over three years that... What? Yeah. Okay. So, yeah.

So she said she made $500,000 from her account over three years. She said, that money does not last. She said, you go to the Gucci store a few times, you pay a couple months of rent. I'm not rich like I used to be. Absolute roller coaster. I'm telling you, everything she says will change your... Every sentence she says will change your mind about her. Yes.

Every single sentence. I mean, there's a lot of just really poor decisions in this person's life. And she says, when somebody says. How old is she? She's 21. I mean. Yeah, she's 21. I was a piece of shit when I was 21.

That's the thing, man. Like with social media, we're like constantly, it's like a 19-year-old says something. I'm like, dude, what decade? Yeah. But also, like, she alluded to, like, not having a good family life and being kicked out and being alienated and, like, having all her friends backstab you. But also when somebody says, everyone's backstabbed me, it's like, well, maybe you were the problem. And then there's this, like, you want to believe this person who's like, well, maybe you were the problem. And then there's this like, you want to believe this person who's been victimized,

but you're also only hearing one side of a story. It's so hard to pass judgment when you don't know anything. I think the big thing is like, this is sort of a clear example. Somebody that just needs a really good person to just kind of like be like, honey like just like well that's probably the problem yeah doesn't have any sort of support i've seen like actual support yeah i've seen people like her i know people like her and and it's just it's not necessarily their fault but

they but they but what happens afterwards it's like okay it's not enough personal responsibility five hundred thousand dollars let's say you're 18 you get five hundred thousand dollars what are you gonna do with that money that's true i mean yeah you can't fault any when you don't have somebody like my dad's an accountant so and also like he's hammered into my head like yeah you get money and you save it finances are really difficult and we do not teach anything regarding that's what i have a kind of i don't think it's that much of a conspiracy theory but the reason we don't teach finance is very early on is because i think that's what society wants they want you to blow all your money they don't give it to everybody else they don't teach you about credit card debt like no

you you get into college and they're like here's a credit credit card. Go have fun with it. It's free money. Or like, yeah, come to school, take out this huge loan at this crazy interest rate. Like sign up for this when you're 17. Yeah. This like crippling debt. Pay us until you're 45. Like we, like, I remember like, I don't know if it was an economics class or what. We learned how to like write a check. Teach me, teach me about 401 check. Teach me about 401k.

Teach me about mutual funds. Teach me about, you know, how to do my frigging taxes. Oh man. Which I don't know how to do because again, my dad's an accountant, so he does my taxes. It also must be insane like for her to go from having no money to that amount of money. Not like she slowly, like her lifestyle slowly changed

to fit that. It went from nothing to Gucci. That's my autobiography. From nothing to Gucci. I just, it's nothing good came out of this. It's definitely sad in a way. Yeah. But I think there's definitely sad in a way. But I think there's definitely a lot.

There's a whole ton of lessons you can learn from just this one video of her freak out. And I don't take enjoyment out of the fact that she's in this situation. But I also definitely don't approve of her content or anything she's done. Can you imagine if you worked any other job and you were like kind of a dick about it and then you got fired and then released this video? Yeah. Can you imagine a job that paid you $500,000 over the course of three years and then you get fired from the job and then you're like, well, I just can't work another job. I just can't do it.

Well, once you get used to that lifestyle, you must think, like, it must be impossible to go back to actually working. Yeah, right. Like, for her, like, she got used to – and I mean, for so many people who make these types of livings on social media where it's like, oh, I can just be an awful person and make money and just post whatever and make money. And then suddenly that being done. And I don't know if it's the thought process of I can be awful and make money, but it's like you say one terrible thing and then it blows up and it gets all this attention. So you're like, okay, that's what people want to hear and see.

And then you start to buy into your own shit. Yeah, that's like the Star Wars. Yeah, there was that video. Some conservative twitter account uh this this you know ashley something with with american flag emojis i don't even want to say her name yeah yeah well that's the thing i don't want to give her attention but she posted this video of this sweet guy reacting to the star wars trailer like getting super excited about it and she was just like star wars and these comic book movies are breeding a whole new sort of undateable man like it's so pathetic or something like just attacked him and it's the sweetest video

yeah and of course it just goes so viral every all the tweets replying to it and so many people are retweeting it being like i can't believe she would say this guy. And I'm like, we're just, she clearly, this was her plan. And what else did she think was going to happen? I think I've seen maybe 20 of the people that I follow respond to that tweet and like quote retweet it. I'm like, just stop giving her attention to be so sick of seeing this woman's tweets. It's so hard because you want to silence these people, but you also want to shame them because you're like, Hey, that person who like has this following and people like they suck.

And here's why. But those people, they're not shamed. They're not shameable because they take, they get more attention off of it. And she honored a Twitter account was making it like she was the victim. She's like, I can't believe all these people are saying so many mean things to me. And other people responding to that being like, I know what's wrong with them. And I'm like, my God, but it is she was the victim. She's like, I can't believe all these people are saying so many mean things to me. And other people responding to that being like,

I know what's wrong with them. And I'm like, my God. But it is also cathartic, like reading the comments, responding to her, defending the guy, which was great. And I was definitely getting like a little bit of a high off of just reading those.

And I wanted to say something. I wanted to pile on too, but I'm like, she doesn't care. She's not responding to any of these. She clearly, like the insane things she's saying, no normal human. She's not gonna be shocked that we're responding. And I mean, society had already weighed in.

So what's the point in just adding to that pile and then attracting more and more and more attention. And it's great for the guy in the video, if he happens to have seen all this mayhem, like it's great that we're supporting him because he shouldn't feel bad at all in this. Yeah. But I do hate that she, it feels, I can't help but feel like she was victorious in it. And that's the same with any time these troll, regardless of political or religious beliefs

or whatever, just trolls on the internet, when they get so much attention, when they cause an eruption, it's like they won. It's like a drug. They're like, yeah, right in my veins i need another hit yeah i mean that's just what they do you say something insane and you're gonna get a bunch of views yeah and then hey i just i just try to ignore those people like my my comment on it isn't on twitter isn't going to change anybody's minds and if and if i don agree with it, why would I want to bring everyone's attention to it? That just seems kind of, you know. And it's tough because it's like you said,

like there isn't a right. Like the people who were responding were correct in supporting the guy, whatever. I can't say they're wrong for responding to her, but. Also, I think I read that that guy's married. Yeah, no, he's doing fine. He's not undateable, okay? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's address that guy's married. Yeah. No, he's doing fine. He's not undateable. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Let's address that guy fucks. Yeah. Probably. Whored. It is actually the sweet, that video is actually the sweetest video ever. He is just sobbing.

I love it. I love it when people just unabashedly like a thing. It's like this pure like emotion and connection with something. And so I love it when people just unabashedly like a thing. It's like this pure emotion and connection with something. And so I love that stuff. Nintendo fans reacting to Smash Brothers. It's so much fun. It's so sweet. I actually, okay, real quick Game of Thrones thing.

I will often, after watching Game of Thrones, days later they'll often release just reactions to that episode. And I will watch so much of that stuff. There used to be videos of a whole bar. They would record it of them all react to stuff. And I loved it. Cause I was like, if I watched the video alone,

then I'm like, ah, then I, but I want to like, I want to make sure other people are just as hyped as me. Sweet. People that are more drunk than me. Yeah.

Sick. Why would you watch Game of Thrones in a bar? That's so, that sounds awesome. No, no, they're, they're like,

they're all like legit fans. So it's dead silent. Oh, that's cool. And then the crazy thing happens and they all just go nuts. Yeah, and they're like, shh. Yeah, yeah. Or you hear the one like, oh my God, is that? Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.

Stacey, stop. Wait, what did that guy do? Shut up. Is that the bad guy? God, dang it, Stacey. Where's Voldemort? Oh, God. So when we were talking, when we were discussing topics for this, something that came up that we haven't gotten around to was the first video that I worked on here.

Oh. And I was like, I don't remember because the way we do things is, you know, our production is a certain amount ahead of the writers. And then there's the release schedule. And so when I first came in, I was doing punch up on a few things. But it was like months before that stuff came out. The first full video that I really wrote on was Every Bird Ever. Oh, no, Monica. You shouldn't have said that.

Somehow I got away with it. You shouldn't have said that. Somehow I got away with it. You shouldn't have. I think, you know, we've talked a lot of crap about Every Bird Ever over the years. I will say, I think I was the one, I believe I was the one who pitched it. Yes. I was like, I came into the office and I was like, guys. That was the original. We got to do Every Bird Ever.

And I remember a lot of people were like, well, all right. And I was like, guys, we got to do every bird ever. And I remember a lot of people were like, well, all right. And I was like, guys, we got to do it. It'd be so good. So I, you know, and I think the script, the script was actually really good and everybody did their job really well. And it just. Sometimes the magic just isn't there in the end. Not all 10,000 of our videos can be absolute bangers.

Right. You know? Every once in a while, you just got to have an every bird. Even though tons of people love every bird ever. Sure, sure. Tons of people. It's got its cult following. It's like Blade Runner.

It's exactly like that. Similar audience, I would say. Blade Runner, every bird ever. Exactly. Very similar crowd wow what a bombshell to leave this podcast on I had no idea

that's also crazy just how long we've been working together it doesn't hit me until I think about that well Monica, Shane, thank you so much for coming on this podcast I feel like I learned so much what? thank you you're welcome uh and and and you guys at home uh thank you so much for listening to us just

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