Smosh Mouth - S1: #11 - Is Joven Coming Back To Smosh Games?

Episode Date: May 1, 2019

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But I had to have my friends text message me memes because I wasn't getting my memes. And to be completely honest, I stole the idea from Saturday Night Live. I was holding onto my hoodie and my hands were shaking uncontrollably. That I've never experienced before from a movie. The human body is a machine and you have to know how the different cogs work and what's close to be able to feel. Stop it. Just shut up. Just shut up.

Just shut up. I regret this. Yeah. I don't like this at all. This is terrible. My grandma has a Yadro collection that she said I'm going to have. And I was like, I don't want your Yadro collection. You made up Yadro.

All right, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Smoshcast. Yeah, we're going. We're in it. You guys ready to cast this pod. Yeah, we're going. We're in it. You guys ready to cast this pod? Let's cast this pod. We're doing it. I was just asleep.

How did you get me here? You know, you actually got some sleep last night. Oh yeah. Gosh. Thank you. Because barely, barely me. Barely you. Because we saw a certain superhero movie.

For those listening or viewing, you may notice that I am not a bearded white man with glasses. But I'll get there eventually. I'm Courtney Miller. I'm here with Joshua Ovenshire and Matt Robb. Is this both of you guys' first time on this podcast? Both of you? Yeah. Yes.

No, I haven't. I think we did a testy boy early, early. Testy boy. Yeah, before we did a real pod, but I don't think I've ever been on this podcast. We're going to do it here and have a good time. And Courtney will judge us from that side. Yeah. Well, it's my first time hosting.

So you guys will be judging me. Oh, it's just a judge city. Judge city. It's just like high school. Next 70 minutes. Nobody knows what they're doing. Strapping. Ian is doing a side project, which is cool.

Are we allowed to say what it is? Yeah. He's doing a side project, which is cool. Are we allowed to say what it is? Yeah. He's doing a thing for Tastemade. He's going to be like cooking. Cooking with Ian. Yeah, Ian cooking. He's so tasty. We stay in a kitchen, daddy.

Yeah. So this is cool. Yeah, man. I'm very happy I'm doing this with you guys. This is great. I love you guys. And I love you together again. This is safe. It's a safe space I love you together again. This is safe.

It's a safe space. I'm judging you. Except we're judging. Yeah. Safe judging. Happy judging. Yeah. It's cool to see you two next to each other.

It's been a while. I know. It's been a hot second. Joven, you're here. I am here. People are like, where are you? I'm like, I'm here.

Now you're here. I'm here. I see that 10 times a day on YouTube comments. 10 is a small number. Yes. Yeah. It's like 12. Yeah. day on YouTube comments. 10 is a small number, yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's like 12.

Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot more. So what's the answer to that? Like, do you even respond to comments? Well, I do, but I wanted to wait because I felt like this would be a good time to talk about what's going on, where I am, and to explain that I am here. Yeah. I'm just not always here. Yeah. I'm like not always here. Yeah.

I'm like Captain Marvel during the first Avengers movie. I'm saving a planet somewhere. It's just we're getting there. No, I'm currently working on my YouTube channel. I am also working on some other career aspect stuff, but at the same time, just to kind of jump right into it, I'm still part of the Smosh family. Of course.

Yeah. Of course you are. I'm still hanging out. We're going to film some stuff. It's just, it might not be an everyday thing, but like, you don't get to choose your family. You just, you just have to go work on some stuff. We're with each other forever. Yeah.

And it's all, it's all happening. It's all happening. And like, so are you going to be in videos or what's the plan? You and I have already started talking about some stuff we want to do together. I, um, uh, over the last few days I was watching some older videos of ours and being like, Hmm, I love that. So I'm excited to jump back into the mix, but, uh, just full transparency. I'm just gonna be completely very honest today.

And, uh, I'm working on all this stuff. I, I want to see. Yeah. I've seen stuff on Facebook. very honest today and I'm working on other stuff. I want to see... Yeah, I've seen stuff on Facebook. Like, you've got stuff in doing. Yeah, so I'm in the process

of selling shows and I think that is something that you and I have talked about over the last few years. Like, what is,

like, what does the career path look like? And I just had to take a moment to figure out, like, I didn't see myself at 65

and retiring as a Smosh Games talent. I did not think that was going to take a moment to figure out, like, I didn't see myself at 65 and retiring as a Smosh Games talent. I did not think that was going to be a viable career. I don't think anybody does. Me. I will be Smosh Games. It'll just be me playing video games. That's not a joke. Old geriatric hands.

And it'll still be funny. No, I just had to. And this wasn't even like when the evolution of current Smosh happened. This was something that was in the making that happened last year also. And it was just like, how am I going to retire? Because I'm married now. One day we want to have a family. I've got three dogs.

I'm like, how do I maintain what an adult YouTuber life looks like? And it was a matter of just trying to see and make decisions that affected me 30 years from now now so as much as i love filming with you guys and i love hanging out all the time i knew that that wasn't something that i could continue to do and then eventually have something to like a little nest egg or i needed to know what the next step of of jovenshire's life was and uh it was very scary and it was very sad and it was a very tough decision but it was. And it was very scary and it was very sad and it was a very tough decision, but it was something where it was just like,

all right, I gotta, I gotta take a, I gotta bet on me. I have to see if I can be successful as well or if it's just a Smosh thing.

Right. Because like, before Smosh happened, we were clever games and we were being threatened with zero dollars. So like, if you don't get views,

you're not going to, you're not going to be anything. Not fun to stream. Yeah. That's how clever people sound? Yeah, that is. And at the time, they're like,

hey, do you guys want to partner up with Smosh? And it was just like, wait, they get views, right? Yes. Yes,

we want to do this. Yes. But like, did you know about Smosh before? I had seen two videos. Okay. I had seen the Pokemon. Okay. I had seen the Pokemon video, and then I had seen the Legend of Zelda rap that they did.

And this is 2012. Earlier than... No, yeah, yeah. It was early 2012. Early 2012 when all that went down. But I mean, you're absolutely right. You hit on something I want to talk about. It's about evolution, right? And it's like, that's what we're doing with Smosh games too. We're evolving we're you know it's not changing for

the sake of change it's evolving for the sake that we're able to like do different things like we hit 273 episodes of game bang 200 a show that we didn't think was going to exist simply because of the name we hit 273 episodes 272 it was a 272. It was a 272? 272. Yeah, we called it 272. I think we did an extra one probably. Probably. Yeah, we actually did. But I mean, like, that's a lot.

That is like how many, like, I can't name. Simpsons doesn't have that many episodes. Well, none do. I can't name more than Simpsons. I can't name many shows that have over 250 shows. That's a lot. That was five, six years every week doing the same show. No breaks.

No breaks. Trying to come up with new ideas. Do you know how difficult it was coming up with punishments that other people would agree to? It's very difficult. After 272 episodes? Guys, we're basically the Simpsons. Yeah. Simpsons, Smosh Games did it first.

Yeah. GameBang did it. Smosh Games did it. I mean, it's true. And we have to evolve as well, which is why it's so exciting about the stuff that we're doing. And like, you get to be in more stuff

and Shane and Ian get to be in more stuff. Like in this new iteration of Smosh Games is really rad because we get to like actually try things that we've never gotten to try before because we had this daddy corporation that was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You want to try?

You want to experiment? That's not going to do well. Daddy with a Y or IE? Hmm? Daddy with a Y or IE? Which is the worst one? D-A-D-D-I-E Daddy with a Y

Y is Y is The one that makes you feel A little uncomfortable Yeah D-A-D-D-I-E But that also sounds like a candy Yeah

I will say like I wanted so badly To be more a part of Smosh Games Like all the time Like throughout all of it Because like Just I love video games And so it's like cool

That that's actually happening now And we have some stuff that you guys are wanting to do with just me and i'm so excited it's very exciting well that was something like that was never on camera either where like you and i would just like walk through the kitchen and then start talking about skyrim or something i'd be like oh that's right yeah it gets it we shot uh one of my favorite things we ever did with you was the sellouts pilot oh my god no you hate it but i loved it so much so we right yeah's right. Yeah, what we did was basically our old president of the company walked into my office for the

first time in my, at that point, three years of working there. He was like, you need to make a mobile game show. I was like, do you know my last name? Yeah, probably not. He was like, you need to make a mobile game show. And I was like, ah, okay, I guess we could come up with something. At the time, none of us liked mobile games. We all hated mobile games.

We're like, this is a dumb fad. I think it was like just after Angry Birds at the peak of Candy Crush. And we're like, mobile games are just icky. There's no good mobile games. Couldn't do Skyrim. We couldn't do anything fun on a phone line. A great Marvel game where you put five cool characters together

and make them fight against other characters. I haven't heard about that. But what you came up with though, like was so cool and such a concept and like it was really fun to host. I was so nervous. I remember. Did that go anywhere? It didn't go anywhere.

So we originally shot the pilot. It was just the footage. And you helped me, Jovan. Yeah, just the two of you together. Yeah, we played a game together. I don't remember what the original premise of the show was. I think it was a challenge based game while trying to play the game.

We were drinking fake. Oh, no, no, no yes yes fake slam because we played on the word sellouts right selling out and we made like a fake we made a fake soda called slam and you guys had to chug slam soda while playing some dumb game and we shot it and we're like how do we do a year of this it doesn't make any sense so then i was like what if we just did a thing where they played a game and then we did something out in real life? And everyone's like, that's cool. Let's do that. Yeah. I love that show.

I really do. I think like on behalf of like the entire, that Smosh Games cast, we're like, we love, that was our favorite show to do. Because if you ask like a favorite moment of Smosh, like everyone has a sellout story. One of my favorite shirts is still stained from grease because of the first sellout that went on air was with the suit. Oh my god. Yeah, when we were in the suit of armor. That was a stupid great idea. We came up with some great stupid great

ideas. I love that I got to go to Vegas with you guys. We did like a couple days in Vegas. You like talked me into getting a massage while we weren't filming. That's right, that was Vegas. Yeah, dude, that was, and I vlogged that. That was such a fun trip. It was a blast. Yeah. Dude, that was, and I vlogged that. That was such a fun trip. It was a blast. Yeah.

And that's actually what I'm really excited about what you guys, what we're doing, you guys are doing next where, and I never really talked to the fans about this,

but I was always, not necessarily offended, but I always wanted to correct people when it's like, oh, my favorite Smosh squad member is this person, but my favorite Smosh games member

was this. And I was like, no, there's no, there's no line in the sand. And it, sometimes it felt like that on camera there. And I'm excited now that that line is blurred. And you should be on Smosh Games channel all of the time

because you love games and you're great at what you do. And Shane and then vice versa. I don't know. It's very exciting to see that that line is going to get blurred because it should have never existed in the first place. Yeah, I think the whole Smosh game, Smosh squad, like labeling was such a branded thing of trying to package people to brands.

And it wasn't about like the relationships at all at that point. We were segregated by corporate nature and it was so stupid. And like, luckily, you know, when we moved into a different part of the office, we were able to be closer to each other. But there was a period in time.

The reason why. So Joe Beretta and I created Summer Games. And the reason we did was because at the time in the building, the Smosh squad and the Smosh games were literally at the opposite ends of the building. So it's like, we're like, you guys, we're on the same brand. It doesn't make any sense. Like, you guys, we should be doing something. So Smosh Summer Games was created literally as a morale boosting thing. And then we're like, let's shoot some content while we make it happen.

And literally it was, I think, some of the best bonding moments because we're all stuck in a cabin during a blizzard or in 120 degree heat in the middle of Nevada. Yes. Oh my gosh, so fun. Because I wouldn't see you guys for a month sometimes. Because you're either traveling or just you're so far away. Right, yeah.

No one would see each other in the office when we came over to your office to do Pokemon Go because you guys were closer to the PokeStop. Yeah, and it was something that we tried to do to break that. And luckily now that we, you know, with Mythical coming in and like us being able to be in control of our own destiny, like something that Ian and all of us talked about from day one was like, we have to make the Smosh family.

There's no squad. There's no sketch group. There's no games group. Like it's a Smosh family and it's all of us. And that's what's rad. And that's, you know, being able to put you in videos and being able to put Sarah Whittle and stuff, be able to put Tommy and Spencer and me and like actually show the people the actual family environment that we created as opposed to this weird fake lives that we

had to create to show that there was a thing. I was like, that's not what we are. Yeah, because it's like, guess what? Like, I have more conversation with Spencer, our editor, on a daily basis than, like, Noah. Right. Like, you'd never know. Wes got onto Smosh Games because he was just our editor that we were friends with and we had a relationship.

And, again, it's the relationships that really translate and go past what like you can see on camera it makes it special and and when you like i remember the first time we had tommy on the uh an actual video i think it was a board af and i remember seeing him do his thing i was like well he's the newest member of sposh games cool yeah we just shot an episode of try not to laugh with him and it's like a new format dude Dude is hilarious. That we're super excited about. He crushed it. Yeah. He's very, very funny. He's a funny boy. But I think that like,

that's something that we're really pushing for. Cause like, you know, I get the questions a lot. You do. I'm sure you do. It's like, okay, Smosh Games is back. Like before we came back,

they're like, where's Smosh Games? And then as soon as they came back, they're like, okay, it's back. So authoritative. Yes. It's back,

but like, I need to know exactly who the Smosh Games cast members are. And it's like, that's the thing is like, there is no exact. It's the Smosh family. If Smosh main, youtube.com slash Smosh is the sketch scripted arm and Smosh pit is the more reality based kind of like personality YouTube arm. Games is just the gaming arm. It's the same group of people.

It's the same folks. It's the same everything. It's just we, now we can play video games over here. Yeah. We just have different platforms for ourselves to play on. And so when a new viewer comes, they can just subscribe to Smosh Games if they just want to see us gaming or Sketch if they just want to watch Sketch. That's just – it makes sense. And I think it's cool because we get to share our relationships because we are sharing our lives with people who are watching YouTube. And we want to share, like, the good parts that we love because if we love it odds are they'll love it too so when we have people on like or if they're

not on it's not a big deal yeah but yeah it's just we want to be honest I'm sure it was frustrating for the fans like because it takes time we want to ease people into what the news is when we had all this transition of course but and the benefit is like you know being able to do what we're able to do here but also letting you and, and a lot of the other Smosh games folks that have started different projects and stuff, allowing you guys the ability and the privilege to come back when you can. I have a Marvel show now and that's super cool,

but I still love those moments when I can come back. It just like, I have so little time and it's how you do it. And, and so I'm, I'm very thankful to the audience for being there

and supporting and I will always want to give back to them and by doing that being able to be on more stuff with you guys it's a win-win for me because I'm going to

hang out with you guys at the same time it's time management yeah what people don't realize is when we were making Smosh Games content there was a period in time

because you guys started at 12 pieces of content a week 14 no it was 13 because Sunday was only bonus that's right so it was two pieces content there was a period in time because you guys started at 12 pieces of content a week 14. 14. no it was 13 because there was uh sunday was only bonus that's right yeah so it was two pieces of content every day for seven days except for sundays and then i came on board and i was like no no no this is insane so we cut it down to seven and then we cut that down to like five but i think at our peak when we were just like going ahead like we were probably five or six pieces of content

that was we were never not shooting six pieces of content that was we were never not shooting yeah it was constant and then there was traveling for sellouts or traveling for a brand deal traveling for some like like con or something always we traveled so much that this year it's literally my goal not to travel like we traveled that much before i'm like no i'm good dude i feel that sacramento every other week. Oh, my God, yeah. My southwest points through the roof. I have to fly to see my family for free for a long time. If it's a flat or a squeal, a wobble or peel, your tread's worn down or you need a new wheel,

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But traveling to Sacramento once a month for us, we, So Inky, Laser Corn, and I, our favorite macaroni and cheese is in a small restaurant in the Southwest Terminal

coming back. Capteria? We gave it a different name because we called it Priorities because it was a priority to get there each time. Nice. Yeah, we don't know where we were.

That's good. It's good that you could landmark knowing how much travel you've done. He's been in the middle of a pyramid, by the way. No, I think it's important to be able to show that we're able to kind of like make content at, you know, to the point where we're not killing ourselves but still able to like keep the channel going. Yeah, because this isn't like even TV shows have season breaks and stuff like that. It's constant. Again, Game Bang, 272

weeks in a row is rough. Non-stop. And then add five or six other shows at the same time. Right. Sellouts went for a year. I mean, Honest Game Trailers we had, that was a beast that kept going. We had everything going for a while. People always want to see more Grand Theft Smosh, but we didn't know what else to do.

And that's another thing. Like, like things like when we gamified games, like Mario craft or Grand Theft Auto, like that's hard because we were essentially, you know, small M machinima, basically taking a video game and turning it into our thing.

You can only do that for so long. We did GTA for three and a half years. We did Mario craft for four and a half years. We did MarioCraft for four and a half years. And that's the beauty. We can come back and we're talking about potentially doing a mini MarioCraft run and doing a mini-series or doing a GTA mini-series. That's when it's exciting because it doesn't feel like it's just like, alright

another 50 weeks of this show. Let's do it. We want to make stuff that we're excited about making and that only comes in small doses. A small behind the scenes tidbit for the fans. If you ever see an episode of Grand Theft Smosh where there was a West list, we literally did that because we didn't know what else to do. Yeah, we ran out of ideas. It's like, Wes, come up with four races.

I don't know anything. Yeah, what's a West list? He basically put like a list of levels together because you could do custom levels. And we actually, yeah. So small teaser, Wes is actually coming back to be in one of our videos. And we are going to be doing a Wes List style thing, which is fun. And also, you're coming back next week. And you don't even know what you're coming back for. I don't.

I know how much you love it. We're all learning things right now. You love getting sticky. No. No, no, no. No sticky, no more hot peppers. Yeah, we had hot peppers. We are doing sticky, but not with you. But we are going to make you drink some gross smoothie stuff. Because, you know, it's fun.

And remember, put in my mouth, memory. Yeah, yeah. I can't forget that. There's some things you look back on and it's like, oh, man, I can't run for office now. I've never shut my laptop watching one of our videos. I put in my mouth episode where they had a disgusting smoothie and you. There was some backfire? Terrible acts.

Not backfire. Spit up. Spit. Backwash. Into a smoothie. Into a smoothie. Well, this is... So we're playing... So they just opened up custom levels in Smash Bros. Oh, yeah. And I'm very excited about that. Like, you can jump on the actual DVD load screen

as it moves and stuff. So I want to play that. But I was like, well, we got to do something different. We got to play with gaming with a twist. So there are 60 different character-inspired as it moves and stuff. So I want to play that, but I was like, well, we got to do something different. We got to play with gaming with a twist. So, uh, there are, uh, 60 different, uh,

character inspired ingredients that you have to put into a blender. This is all Damien. Damien was like, I got it. And like, I've looked at the list and I was like, Oh my God. Yeah.

It'd be fun. Hey, just don't lose. As long as there's no hot peppers. Laser corn actually tricked me into having a lot of hot pepper recently, like on camera. And I was not about that life.

Was that real? Because I was like That was one of so one of the shows that I do on my channel Totally Unprompted where it's we write scripts

for each other and Laser Corn wrote in my script that oh I love hot peppers so much and he's like I've got one right here

that literally I did not know that was going to happen Seriously? I was not happy but I'm a trooper-ish. If the camera's rolling, I'll be a trooper. Yeah, oh yeah.

And it's like, all right, cool, I guess I'm doing this right now. And we still had to film five more episodes after that. And you can still see that I'm dying from it. Yeah, the whole hiccups. And you have different guests on the show, right? So it was me, Wes, So Inky, and Laser Corn. So there's different combinations of that, and then they'll do it. But if it does well, I would like to have another batch on.

I feel like I need to have Damien and Shane on. Yeah, I want to talk about that. Yeah? Let's spill some tea. All right, you guys, what do you like? Some hibiscus tea. I like the hibiscus. Do you like it iced or hot?

Normally iced, actually. No, it's hot today, boy. Today's hot. Yeah, so I saw a lot of comments. Oh, boy, that was a fun first day. Yeah, so your episode went live and looked like people thought your show was kind of familiar. I was so proud of

this because I paid for a crew, I got the guys in, I was proud of the concept, I edited the video myself, which I haven't done in like eight years. And you're blind, Lee. I edit, so I move very slowly. And like Yoda.

And then the second comment was like, oh, Damien and Shane did this. And I was like, what? That must have been a one-off thing. And then a few more comments. I was like, what? What, what, what? Several shows. Apparently, it was a running segment that they had done on Smosh Pit Weekly.

And I will say right now, I did not know that. I thought I heard Damien say that you complimented him. Nope. I also blindly compliment Damien because it keeps him happy and moving forward. So most of the time, I don't know. He'll just come up to me with a smile. I'm like, hey, the thing you did last week, I loved it. Good job.

Oh, my God. I'm good for another day. It does keep them going. This tea feels cold. I'm sorry. Well, to kind of heat it up, the reason I didn't know is I didn't watch those episodes of Smash Pit Weekly. It was a segment in Smash Pit Weekly.

It wasn't an entire video. So there, yeah, that is- So it was something that was, and to be completely honest, I stole the idea from Saturday Night Live. There's the tea. And to be completely honest, I stole the idea from Saturday Night Live. Literally, it was a segment on weekly news where they wrote each other's jokes. And I was like, that's hilarious. And I had been wanting to do something that felt like old Why We're Single videos. I was like, all right, let me take this and add a Why We're Single element with people in the background.

It's just more personality-based and the jokes are there. And then we'll see what happens. And I was so happy with the final product. For the record, by the way, Damien and Shane did it before SNL did it. I'm just, yeah, I want to make sure everyone is aware. I almost wonder if they saw it because they searched weekly. And I'm like, I saw it.

Michael Shay is a huge smosh bit weekly. That makes sense. I stole the idea from SNL, but to Damien and Shane, I will not say this again. So hear this once. Oh, and it's going to be forever, Zs. You guys are just brilliant, talented, funny people. So I feel lucky that I came up with an idea that you had already done a few times. That means I'm kind of on the right path to making something entertaining.

That's very sweet. And if they would like to come on, I would love to. I felt bad because I thought I had something great. But here's the thing. It's very sweet. And if they would like to come on, I would love to. I felt bad because I thought I had something great. But here's the thing. It's the internet. There's nothing original on the internet anymore except for whatever they're about to do on Smosh and Smosh games in the next few months. Nobody's drank a smoothie ever on the history of the internet. Yeah, we've never done it before, period.

I feel like the Smash Bros idea, I didn't know how secret it was. This seems very original to me. I think so. I mean, that's the thing. There is no originality. how secret it was. This seems very original to me. I think so. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, there is no originality. All you can do is put your stank on it. So, like, you guys put your stank on it. It's how you did it.

It was different. Yeah. A little Smosh seasoning, a little Joven seasoning. I'm sorry, Damien and Shane. I started watching the Goldbergs literally just to support Shane. I think he's a very talented individual. Your view counts. Every view counts on that show.

I like to think so. Just like on YouTube, right? I don't know what to believe now when you go, that thing you did. Yeah, no, just, if I sound sincere, I'm lying. Your view counts. Every view counts on that show. I like to think so, just like on YouTube, right? I don't know what to believe now when you go, that thing you did. If I sound sincere, I'm lying. Oh, wow. We didn't completely negate what you just said. We're real here.

This is the real, real. Oh, my God. Well, that's good. So, yeah, you've got that show. You've got the Marvel game show. I pitched a show to Fox Next, and I didn't hear anything for months. And I was like, well, there goes my career. I'm done. And then they hit me back up, and they're like, hey, we like this thing.

Do you want to do this? And I was like, wait, I'm going to have a show with Marvel and Fox, which is the most scared I think I've ever been. Because you and I have talked about this, and I want the fans to know. No one that you've ever seen, met, or talked to or have heard of in their life knows what they're doing. In LA. If you're a coal miner or a teacher, chances are you know what you're doing. Or a doctor, hopefully.

No, doctors are faking it. They guess every day. Little known fact about doctors, they don't know anything. Do you see how many books they have? Do you think they actually read all those books? No. Nobody reads that much. Cool. And so they came to me and they're like, all right, great. We want to do this.

And I was like, wait, I've been guessing my whole life. And now the spotlight was on me and I had to come up with how the show is going to work, the structure and everything about it. But also having Marvel and Fox looking at the same time at every tiny detail that you do was a new type of pressure. And it was, you know you do was a new type of pressure and it was, you know,

it was a learning experience and I'm having a wonderful working relationship with them even though I didn't get invited to a premiere or anything,

that's fine. But I still, I don't know, it's something that I'm very passionate about and it's something I get to do with them and so there's that show.

I brought Top 5 back this week. There's Totally Unprompted which we'll go for another batch and we'll try to get some more in if Shane doesn't, I don't know, give me a cease and desist.

Or punch a hole through you. Yeah, that too. He's been known to do that. I got Magic the Gallery videos up there because that's a really popular thing. That's something that even you'd get mad at us for talking about Magic the Gallery. Because it's real nerdy. I did the same thing with Damien about anime. When he starts talking about his weeaboo stuff,

I'm like, I don't know what you're saying, man. I was like, look, I can tell you literally every single character in every Marvel movie and their history and their first issue, but you start talking to me about like Boko no hero no no no. There's so much anime. He says a different anime every day. I'm like,

there's a whole world that I don't know about. Courtney, I think he's making this up. I think he's making this up. I think he's making this up. Have you seen Spirit of the Darkness, Dead Boy Man, Hero Love? It's like, yeah. It's like, oh, you don't know? It's the best. It's the best. I highly recommend it.

I'll need to have him on an episode of Where to Start, but it's just manga. Yeah. And that's the comic book show where we go over, and I want to have you on eventually because we just talk about like, hey, here are the comic books that you need to know. So I'll have Damien on to do manga. You come on and ask.

It's Munja, I believe. Oh, Munja, okay. He'll love that. And then I can tell that he did a good job and he'll definitely believe me. Until he watches this podcast and his heart literally breaks.

Dude, we have such a nerdy office. We do. We really do. It's cool. Like even before this office specifically, just our workspace, it's just filled with people with, like, pretty similar tastes. Yeah. So, just, like, on that same level of, like, nerd.

Mm-hmm. Which is cool. Like, we, so we were up till 3 a.m. seeing the new Avengers movie. Mm-hmm. And, like, this morning, you see doors are shut and people are talking, like, okay, they're all talking about the movie right now. Yeah. And, like, that's pretty common, like, the new new Game of Thrones episode I feel like you were always very notorious

for having your door shut I was like people would make you said you know because there was always something that we just saw that people were talking about up with you here we went to or the latest episode of something and everyone's like I don't want to hear this yeah I need another day yeah we were doing that this morning cuz we finished watching endgame I saw it twice in one day. The movie hasn't even been out for 12 hours. I know.

I saw it twice. Six hours of those 12 hours. Six of my 12-hour day was watching Avengers. This office was empty by like 4.30 because everyone was out. It felt like Christmas, like something big like that. And it was. It was one of those things where just like, for this and Star Wars, like you have to get there first or you're going to see something online, whether it be a troll or just like you can't not talk about it. I went on complete social media blackout for two days.

I was texting because I couldn't go on Reddit because Spencer told me. He's like, front page of Reddit, big old spoiler. I didn't go on Twitter because I know. So I told you when I went to Force Awakens, I was like tweeting. I was like, gonna go see Star Wars. And literally someone just replied to me and said, Khan dies. I'm like, are you serious? Like, what the fuck?

I hate that. But I went in total blackout mode. I had to have my friends text message me memes because I wasn't getting my memes. I was like please send me memes. But then they just send you Marvel spoiler memes. Send memes yeah. SOS. Yeah SOS need meme hard day. But I was like just send me stuff and then

I went in and then I'm like okay good. It was so liberating. You made it. Being able to go back on the internet is so liberating after 24 hours. Now you're in on the joke. I know. For the week prior, I was pretty good. I was just, in general, scared of leaks or something. I was pretty good at staying in my lane because I still want to put out my own social media.

So I was very good at navigating that. But day of yesterday, I was literally like, I kept accidentally opening Twitter and clicking the discover page like an idiot. And I'd see a picture of Rocket. I'd be like, get that out of here. I did a live stream yesterday to kill time. And I was like, I'm sorry, guys, not looking at the chat. So good luck. I'm going to do this. And you're there too. Ian tweeted this morning or last night being like, yep, can't see it until next Friday because I'm busy, which I'm hoping he'll be able to see it. No, so we go to New York on Sunday,

and I think we have a little bit of time on Monday. He's not going to survive. No, he'll be okay. And then he'll have his tweet. Someone spoiled it. Oh, my God. Did he see it? I hope not.

I hope not. If you're going to tweet about, oh, spoilers, there's going to be somebody. It's just anarchists. It's just people being like, I want to ruin this guy's day. It's like, I don't care as much, so I'm going to break somebody. It's just anarchists. It's just people being like, I want to ruin this guy's day. It's like, I don't care as much, so I'm going to break. That's stupid. But what are you going to do about trolls?

What you're going to do is you're going to try to see the movie as early as you can. When we were at the movie theater, I like. Yeah, you had to like. I'd poke my ears and go, la, la, la, la, la, la. Because we did it ourselves. Talking about it, walking out. They had to say in the arc light intro thing they had to be like also reminder when you're leaving the theater

there are certain people that haven't seen the movie yet do not spoil it don't be that guy yeah I am so ready to talk about this movie yeah please and thank you

dude so did you see it twice did you see it you saw it twice I saw it last night at 1130 got home very very late yeah but you also saw it really late right

yeah it was 1145 showing now is that because that was the first time you were available to do it or like me, you procrastinated and just had to find the furthest theater

that still had a seat available? Shane actually, like he was like, well, there's no way like I'm buying tickets. It was like super far in advance. He's like, I'm just going to buy

a bunch of tickets right now for this one showing. Right. And so we, then a bunch of people just hopped on. So I was luckily able to just be a part of that.

I backed into the fan screening at five because I was like I'll go but it's like second row back and I was like ah what if the seats suck so I was like

I'm just going to buy a second so you're like this the whole time like ah because I really want to see it and I and then it ended up working out because there's so much

of the battle that I missed there's so much of the stuff oh yeah are we getting into spoiled territory spoiled boy well yeah so basically we

I loved it I loved the movie yeah yeah hands So basically, I loved it. I loved the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Hands down. People should go see it. But there's going to be people who haven't seen Infinity War that are going to go see this. There's going to be people like that.

Yes. Don't do that. It's on Netflix. Watch it. Yeah. If you didn't see Captain Marvel, you could survive and watch this movie. If you didn't see Infinity War, you'll be confused. Yes.

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Oh, yeah yeah so spoiler time Yeah spoiler time Spoiler time I don't know Just to be safe Just come back And rewatch this Yeah if you're

I mean this is You're gonna hear the audio The Wednesday after it comes out You're gonna see the video The Friday after it comes out And by the time If you haven't seen it It's already been spoiled for you

So yeah Yeah If you go on social media at all It's literally anywhere But yeah let's go Yeah I mean what'd you think What did you actually think Well my

I had like a physical reaction To that movie it was so much yeah like that movie i love i loved it so much um when the battle was happening like when it was like on your left and it all everybody comes out i almost cried again when you said it's time everyone started coming out. And when I saw Peter Quill, like I literally, I grabbed myself and like my heart was pounding, obviously. Everyone's was. And then like as the battle started happening, I was like holding onto my hoodie and my hands were shaking uncontrollably. That I've never experienced before from a movie. Like I was trembling. I was just constantly just like crying.

Just like my eyes just, I didn't want to blink because there's so much going on. I didn't want to miss anything. But like my heart, my heart rate didn't slow down until I was home. Like I was, I did have coffee with dinner. So that may have been part of it. But hands trembling and shit. Like I, wow. It was, yeah, amazing.

And it's, it's, it's funny that you said that you've never had that reaction before it's because we've never had this experience before exactly no one's had this experience before this is 11 years and I know that we were all saying this the same thing last year where it's like 10 years to get to this one movie yes and this is even more true now because it is 22 movies that led up to this one experience the best part of this movie is that you will never be able to experience this again and especially like that even if you see it a second time and it might be as good but like not knowing what was going to happen wondering when the movie was going to stop you will never experience 22 movies leading up to one movie

ever again yeah like people will try, but okay. Yeah. Maybe. Executed with everybody in it. Executed. I mean, in my opinion, so well. Perfectly. And yeah. Everybody had their moment.

Everybody was able to have a cool comic book hero shot. Everybody got to have it together. You got your girl squad moment. Yeah. You got your best friend Cap and Iron Man moment. Like it was just, it worked. It felt pretty flawless to me. They brought up every loose end.

Every loose end. Yeah. Well, close to every loose end every loose end well close to every loose pretty almost because we're in spoilers let's just get to that that that moment in the movie where you said you had like a physical reaction i literally jumped out of my seat when captain america got the hammer oh yeah oh my god this was me like i for audio people at home she's making a face from a ring. I look like a demon. I was so shocked. I've seen quite a few movies with Laser Gordon, So Inky. And I did see this movie with them and Mari last night.

And I've never noticed before that they'll always switch off who sits next to me. Because I yell too much in movies. It's a thing you do. Yeah, I get excited. I clap. I clap. I cheer. I get into it. And ladies and gentlemen,

afterwards, like, yeah, I'm going to watch the movie again because I didn't hear a few lines and you were yelling. I was like, it was so good. Yeah, and it was,

I'm so used to that. We saw it together. We saw it was you, me, Damien, Shane, Ryan Finity. And I was kind of looking at that because it was a second screening for me.

So I wanted to go back because I wanted to watch people's reactions. My favorite thing to do in a movie if I kind of know what's because it was a second screening for me. So I wanted to go back because I wanted to watch people's reactions. My favorite thing to do in a movie, if I kind of know what's happening, is to watch what people are doing and how they're reacting. So I kept looking over, and you were just in the fetal position. And Shane, no joke, the entire time, didn't make a noise or change his face. He's just...

Yeah. The entire time. I looked over a dozen times, and he's just... I was like, is he upset? Or like, is he sad? He's just in complete, just like comatose face.

Like it was so, it was jaw dropping. It was exhausting. It was exhausting. My heart, yeah, I felt physically drained. I felt like I was in the battle.

Like my heart was hurting. My head was hurting. I didn't want to talk to anybody. Like I tried to be a little bit a part of the conversation, but like, I needed to sit down. Like my body was not okay after watching that movie leading up to this i almost like would lose like nerd cred for some people where they're like how am i gonna do

pee breaks it's so long i was like bitch you didn't do three hour lord of the rings midnight screens also come on this is nothing i trained for this moment yeah and then like watching this I'm like how much time has passed it feels like this movie should end right now no we're still going like literally when

the two armies are going head to head I was like it's gonna cut to black right but this is the end of the movie no it's not because I also

sometimes time check and I was like cool where are we in the movie like generally try to figure it out and I was like when they finally decide

to have that brainstorm session I like turned to my wife and I was like, there's another 90 minutes to this movie. And when they go into the battle, when the battle ends, there's another 35 minutes to the movie. And I'm like, this is, there's so much content. I just love that when it's like, yes, there's more movie.

No, exactly. Exactly. I didn't want it to end. Again, I'm not gonna have this again, at least for a decade, if someone started right now. Right. Which I guess, phase five, Marvel, maybe.

Well, you've got X-Men stuff. There are going to be more geeky moments in the future. We're going to get things that we've never gotten. And the Russo brothers are just in my top three of directors because they know how to do these moments so well. Like the opening to Infinity War, I think is brilliant. How like we see how badass Thanos is just by fighting the Hulk. Like you don't really need to see him destroy Xandar.

You don't need to see him like wipe out all the Asgardians. You just see him fighting Hulk. You're like, oh, all right. He's a bad bitch. Got it. And that was my one gripe with this. One of, like, two gripes with this with Endgame is, like, Hulk never got his, like, redemption moment. And I think we were saying, I think his version of redemption, like, that they had for him was coming up with the time machine or trying the time machine and then the snap.

Yeah. Yeah. The river, the double snap. The double snap. Snap back. Yeah, snap back. That moment where just Thanos' arm shows up. It's like, what the hell is going to happen right now?

And then you just hear the faint sound. You're like, oh, okay. Oh, my God. It's happening. I know it's happening. And then you just see the strange portal, and you're like, I was like grabbing people's arms. Yeah.

I ugly cried at Avengers Assemble. I was like, I literally, my wife grabbed my hand. I was like, yeah. And it's, it's, it's amazing. And like when they ended the first movie,

cause we all saw infinity war together. And like the fact that they just blew everybody's minds by killing everybody at the end of the movie. And like, everyone was like, what? Like you have a year of us building and and theorizing and trying to figure it out. And the fact that they subverted all expectations in the first 10 minutes of Endgame is amazing. I did a video after Infinity War.

I was like, Marvel's making the same mistake that Star Wars made, where it's like, if you give someone a year to theorize, episode eight just went against what everyone thought. So then they hated it for it. I was like, well, this movie won't be what we think it's going to be so we're going to hate it yeah and the movie started off so slow that it almost made me like doubt if it was going to be good right like after like the thanos stuff in the beginning i was like oh what if this movie's just kind of just them dealing with it yeah that made me feel super confident in the movie and i

was like oh like we going to stay here. And, like, we're going to, they're emotionally bringing us in, like, so much. And, like, I cannot believe, like, the amount that cinema and, like, movies can affect a person. Like, it's a bunch of people who have a job. And they're doing this thing. And they're creating this thing. And they're all passionate about it. But it's, like, the fact that millions gather and just looking at a screen just creates

so much response and it was just done perfectly yeah there might be some issues here and there and anytime anytime you throw

time travel into a movie like for me it's gonna take me out I'm like alright well this ruins everything in the timeline and they did it

so well and literally at times just by throwing out any preconceived notion of time travel in a movie and just like kind of well and literally at times just by throwing out any preconceived notion of time travel in a movie and just like kind of resetting your thought on it

and it's like, okay, so this will make sense. It just worked. Like it just worked and it was just kind of perfect and it's like, honestly,

they could never make another movie and it'd be like, that was, you know what? We did it. That's our Godfather trilogy. It's 22 minutes long

or 22 movies long. 22 minutes long. And that's it. Like, honestly, they could never do another Marvel movie. And I feel like I feel okay with it, you know? And like, you're right. But like, how do they follow up in two months with what the movie that's supposed to end phase four, which is Far From Home?

I don't know. I have no idea. I mean, it's going to be Spider-Man stuff. I mean, that's the benefit of doing something like this. And then something a little smaller is like you go from the macrocosmic to the microcosmic. So this can be more about like Peter, his life, how it was affected, all that stuff. Which I'm still like, they're really good at having lines where to kind of clear up any questions that you might have. If I had a kid in high school and he got dusted and then he's back all of a sudden, like, I don't know if I'm going to send him on a school trip to Europe or anything.

Allegedly, they're going to address it. They're going to address the fact that Peter Parker's five years younger than literally everyone he's back all of a sudden. Like, I don't know if I'm going to send him on a school trip to Europe or anything. Allegedly, they're going to address it. They're going to address the fact that Peter Parker's five years younger than literally everyone he's in class with. So they'll figure it out. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. It's going to be weird.

Well, yeah, I think you just start like some people moved on. All right, great. You're now in college. Is Zendaya in her 20s now? Is that weird? Is she dating a 16 year old? Any character that we knew before probably also got dusted and then came back. I don't know.

It'll get addressed. Yeah. It's going to be great. I'm very excited. I'm excited to see what the future is. I'm excited to see them kind of do weird, more obscure characters. Like they have to pull a couple more Guardians out of their ass. Like they have to pull a couple more of like, let's, all right, let's take a franchise or

a comic book from the seventies or the eighties that nobody gives a shit about, and let's make it a very big and popular thing. I thought I was excited for Guardians 3, and then I got so much more excited for Guardians 3 when I was like, oh, throw Thor in it. That's how it gets better. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Yeah, give us fat Thor. I'll be honest.

I think Star-Lord, Chris Pratt, I don't know. I feel like he was kind of half-assed performance in Endgame, man. It's interesting that you say that because there was a point in time where, especially when all the dusted characters came back, where I felt like we weren't getting the satisfaction of seeing these relationships or personalities come forward. And I had to stop myself a few times and be like, it's not Star-Lord's movie. It's not Stranger's movie.

This is Captain Iron Man and Thor finishing off their story. And like, that's where the magic needed to be. He didn't want anything pulling too far from that. But when he sees Gamora, I like saw, like, I was like, I want to feel this right now. But like, I just didn't feel it from him this time. I think they're saving it for the third movie. Probably. I think that they were teasing, like, that they're going to do a search for Spock. And they're saving it for the third movie. Probably. I think that they were teasing like that they're gonna go search, they're gonna do a search for Spock and they're

gonna go try to find Gamora. The thing is like, man, I, okay, so it's like everyone, all the fans say like, oh, I'm a Chris Pratt fan. I'm like, I'm more a Star-Lord fan than a Chris Pratt fan. He's good in other movies, but like Star-Lord, Peter Quill, and the way he performed that character in

previous movies, I like, I've never loved a male character more than that. Well, it was, and I'll say this all the time on my channel, the way that you make a successful superhero movie is you need to do something different. And Chris Pratt as Star-Lord was a very different leading man versus anything we'd seen for the eight years before that. We needed that kind of superhero.

I mean, he's Han Solo. Let's be honest. I think he's Han Solo. Yeah. No, I see it. Han mean, he's Han Solo. Let's be honest. I think he's Han Solo. Yeah. He's Han Solo. No, I see it. Han Solo. He's Han Solo.

I see that. He's got that Han Solo charm. Yeah, he's got the swagger. He's got the swagger, but like this guy. I'm talking Han Solo, New Hope. Like, he's kind of like, he's kind of an idiot, but he's also kind of a hero. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's just that.

I could see the comparison. I still have a little bit more lying down the center. He's gatekeeping Han Solo right now. Yeah, just stop. Just stop. Just let it happen. But I loved it. I loved every aspect of it.

I think, you know, sitting through a three-hour movie twice is definitely never something I ever thought I could do. But I did it, and I was like, fine. And they made us care about Thor 2. Yeah. Like, that alone is a feat. Oh, my God. Jeez. The moment with the... I deleted that

one out of my brain. Right. Everybody did. Which is why I feel like, alright, we gotta... What the fuck happened in Thor 2? Writing the script. Did anybody here see Thor 2? Nobody? Was that actually Natalie Bortman that we saw in this movie? Yeah. For a shoot? I feel like they used... Because I think they used...

They had all this extra footage from when they shot those movies. I think they used stuff and then they used a body double when she gets up and rockets yeah they did there's a close-up of her face and it's definitely now natalie really i thought so i thought so everybody that's the one negative of this movie it's like everybody like gwyneth renee russo everybody's kind of like oh that movie was like 12 years ago like i forgot you've had like a long time to kind of like oh that movie was like 12 years ago like I forgot you've had like a long time on this planet

since that movie happened so when I saw the close up of her I thought she looked fresh I thought she looked good like back then good maybe but also they made Michael Douglas

not look like he's the Crypt Keeper so like they probably did a little bit of magic CGI magic on her face it was great it was a great moment

made me care about it I don't care about that character but I was like, this is rad. This is cool. Like I was into it. What moments made you cry? Like so many. Like so many little ones.

It happened a few times. As someone that prides himself on having a lack of emotion, it came a few times. It came a few times? It did. Sorry. Well, it was that good.

I did the joke. There was that wave of emotion like dozens of times throughout that movie. But I think the captain getting the hammer. I lost my shit. When Gamora puts her hand out for new Nebula. Oh, yeah. The orange Nebula.

Like that for me, like just a sister relationship that I like literally watched. I was like, that's sad. And then like even the later scene was starting and I was like that's sad and then like even the later scene was starting and I was like oh it was really sad yeah

yeah what about you any other cry scenes honestly it was just assemble for me when he says assemble and like it's been like they've been teasing it for 20 movies

and he hasn't said it fully for the longest time and then he says it and everybody's there and it's a battle I lost it but they technically already assembled

because they are already all came together. Well, they were just kind of looking in different directions. Also, he whispered it, so maybe they didn't know. Maybe he wanted to yell it, but he's like, wait, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

So there we go. Yeah. You? Thor talking to his mom. Like, just, it got me and I was like, and then all the way up to Steve Rogers Thor talking to his mom. Like, just, it got me, and I was like, ah! And then all the way up to Steve Rogers at the very end. The slow dance?

Before that, when he's on the bench. Oh, yeah. And I was just like, maybe that was just like the emotional, like, it just, even just watching the movie for three hours and finally came to this moment, I was like, he's earned this. And he got to, like, he the world. Who knows how many times is now able to like, like the moment he didn't come back. I was like,

oh, I, I grabbed my, my, my wife's hand. I'm like, oh God, here we go.

And then they, uh, I think what also did it was the fact that Bucky knew that he was going to be over there and then push his Falcon that way. And I was like, ah,

it's getting to me again. It was just like, that Falcon that way. And I was like, ah! It's getting to me again. It was just like, that was the perfect ending where it's like, you've earned it. Yeah. For me, that was like, I don't know. I guess it's good. It's not just killing people off. It's easier. But I was like, this is the first time since Winter

Soldier that I actually liked Cap. I've always thought Cap was super vanilla. I was like, he's just super boring. I didn't like him comics at all yeah i was like he's just he's whatever he's cyclops nobody likes cyclops everybody likes wolverine you know what i mean so it's like for me i was just kind of like and then in this movie i i genuinely like chris evans i think chris evans is one of the funnier actors out there and he doesn't get to do it and i think that they kind of made the decision they're like we got rdj and he's rdj and hemsworth is really reaching for this comedy stuff so you got to be you but the fact that they kind of made the decision. They're like, we got our DJ and he's our DJ. And Hemsworth is really reaching for this comedy stuff.

So you got to be you. But the fact that they let him do it where he's like, I could do this all day. He's like, I know. Like those moments actually made me care about Cap. And I was like, this is so good. And then at the end of the movie, I was like, but wait, you don't go. I like you now. I know, you're on my team now.

I think the one issue that I had and the reason I'm bringing it up is you kind of touched on the scene. The one thing that I would have done differently, because I am a professional, of course. You work with Marvel. Yeah. So they're listening. Is when Cap says that line about when he sees himself. Yeah. And that fight happens, Captain America swears.

I know. You would have wanted him to say language. I thought the other Cap should have been like, language. I thought about it, but I was like,

it's, there's so many things happening in that three scene shot that I was like, if he says, oh, you got to be shitting me

and then the other one says I got Loki and the other one says I'm not Loki. If they were to say swearing, it felt like a hat on a hat. It would have been a little too much.

That's crazy. I wonder if they actually did film it and be like, maybe. I didn't think about the swearing thing. Was this movie a comedy? Because there are some times

where like Marvel has always tried to like really jump into the comedy. Well, the Russos got their start in sitcom. In sitcom. Yeah, like community was the thing to put them

on the map, which is also great because they put almost every community regular in a Marvel movie. Yeah, like, community was the thing that put them on the map, which is also great because they put almost every community regular in a Marvel movie. Oh, and we got Danny Pudi. They had Ken Jeong. We got Ken Jeong this time.

And Nicole Brown was in this one. They've done, I think everybody but Alison Breed, Chevy Chase, and Joel McHale. Everybody else has been in it.

Yeah. It's great. But yeah, it was just funny. And then, like, sometimes I'll be like, is it trying to be too funny? too funny i'm like no it's just like perfect blend yeah it just felt like it felt like oh this is a little mini sketch right now that's happening and for me that's the difference between marvel and dc is marvel knows how to make it look like they

are a little like they don't care as much like we're chill like we we aren't taking ourselves so so seriously i'm sorry you are a little more on the DC. I work for Marvel. With a Batman tattoo. Don't tell them that. I will say when Cap sees Margaret through the window and doesn't do anything about it, that was like a really powerful moment to me. Because he's just so strong.

He's so strong emotionally, physically. Whoa. But, like, sorry, like, just, you know. And it's just, even when he got knocked down by, was it Thanos? And he still is just getting back up. I almost yelled, get up. Because it's like, that's Cap. Always gets back up. He almost yelled, get up. Because it's like, that's Cap. Always gets back up.

He can do this all day. And just the fact that, like, all of their egos were out the window for the most part. Like, for this movie, because it had been five years, whatever. Like, the egos were all super hot in the beginning for the five-year jump. Thor's got a gut. Yeah, dude. It was so refreshing to be able to see a Marvel movie and have a shirtless superhero and me feel like I'm doing okay.

Well, this was a conversation my wife and I had. It's like, do you think, there's no way they're going to keep that. Like, I was like, she was like, do you think Chris Hemsworth's like, oh, I don't have to get in like super shape. And I was like, I don't know, man. I feel like there's a little bit of me that's like, Oh, they're like representation. But also it's like, I feel like they're probably like,

you can't have an action figure with a gut. Well, you also like, if you look at, I buy it. Like Thor at the end of the movie was as big of a badass as anyone else. If not the biggest badass there. And he had braids in his ears.

When he hit the circle, the lightning God's like, here's a the biggest badass there. And he had braids in his ears. When he hit the circle of life, the lightning god's like, here, this is really good for you. This is really good for you. He didn't get abs in 10 seconds, so that's for sure. He could still have the build that he has and still be a great character.

Yeah, they made a perfect, like, it's muscular but it's overweight. He still had all the muscle there, but it's crazy. It was good. The prosthetics on him? No, just pizza. It's like a ton of pizza. He did Christian Bale.

Yeah. Just gained all the weight. I mean, he's actually, he's very method because it was a Master and Commander. No, that's the other one.

He did the whale movie and he was like emaciated. He's lost like, he's done that thing where he's like fluctuated in weight. So like part of me was like, did he gain like 55 pounds of fat for this movie? But he it wasn't in his face so i think it was i think it was just the suit but which yay for practical effects suit and i think maybe some body double

stuff i mean it makes sense yeah yeah yeah for sure i mean if they could do it with cap looking like a scrawny kid they can yeah it's like all right we did the scrawny kid strong guy thing now we got to do strong guy fat guy guy thing. And they did Skinny Tony. Skinny Tony. They did do Skinny Tony. Yeah. That was hard to watch. It was like, ah, too much. We also, like, I mean, the dude's had a hard life.

But like in the last movie, I was like, yikes. He's only 54. He definitely looks like he's clocking 60. Like he's lived a long time. I mean, fighting everything. In the MCU and that. When you're saving the universe all the time, you know. Yeah.

Getting drunk and showing up in people's backyards in the 80s. When you see Obama when he first got elected. Yeah. They fought Thanos. They fought Thanos. But it's amazing. I'm excited. I probably will go again.

Will you go again? Will you go again? I think I need to. I think it was so much physically, too. I think I definitely want to see it ten times more but I think I need to

be in the comfort of my own home more intimately with the screen so I can just look at more that's funny I think my next screening will be like

on a Wednesday at like 11am where no one else is at the theater and I'm just like alright cool good luck yeah I'll have to wait

yeah three weeks do you guys remember that period like years ago when people were like, oh, people are going to stop going to theaters and cinema's going to die?

Like when internet and Netflix was such a thing? No, people just make bad movies. And then Marvel happened. Yeah. It's still not doing well. Is it? Theaters are still not doing great. Theaters are.

Well, the movies are. Blockbusters are. The movies are. But blockbusters have always done well. Right. That's the thing. It's like you're always going to have those. It's always going to do well.

But like, you have your Netflix's and your things that are taking a chunk out of movies. I mean, you can just see it in the fact that like,

every movie theater is like, you can get a recliner now and you can get food to your table. They're making it very easy. Yeah. Yeah. But it's definitely the Marvel. I mean,

this movie is probably, by the time this comes out, we'll know, but this movie, probably going to do better than any movie. Oh, no. That's something that I find kind of annoying every time. I know it's just good marketing,

but it's like every movie has its records that it beats. I'm like, you can't do that every single time. Yeah. No, but this will. This will. This, before the movie came out, was like. Oh, it shattered records in pre-sale. Yeah.

Will it win Best Picture? No. No? I don't think so. I think it might. It was so good. But it's as a one-off movie by itself. I feel like that's going to be something so many people are going to see this movie and like have not seen it anymore because many people just need to see it because they're

like, oh, well, everyone's seeing it. So I got to see it. Did it, um, return of the King win best picture? Yeah, but it was also at a time where there was kind of like nothing dropping. I feel like there's also so many, I mean this, it'll be interesting because this is going to go up against like a Joker. And I feel like a Joker is probably going to be up for more things just because of the Scorsese of it all. And the fact that it feels a little more Oscar.

Yeah. You and I talked about this and it kind of like, as much as I am expecting a lot from that movie by expecting very little, could that be up for best picture? Maybe. lot from that movie by expecting very little. Could that be up for best picture? Maybe this just like, again, it's just this moment in history that took 11, 11 years to get up to it. I almost feel like it's just like,

you've earned it. Take it. It's unprecedented for sure. But I also feel like at a time when I think the Oscars are trying to fight for a better audience. Well, that's why they created the, like the fan award or the most popular award or whatever.

Like they, they try, but at the end of the day, it's, it's old Hollywood. You know what I mean? They don't want this. They don't want these movies. They want, you know, the movie about the kid that falls in the ice. They want those movies to win. Like that's just how it is.

I haven't seen trailer for Joker. I actually didn't see any of the Infinity War trailers. Nice. For Endgame? For Endgame. Yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah.

Kudos to them. These are the best Marvel trailers ever. It didn't, it didn't, it showed us the first five minutes of movie Yeah, maybe that's it and they didn't do the cool thing I actually kind of like the marketing trick where they'll like change things in the trailer delivery Yeah or different like although like we're in Infinity War they show the scene where Hulk is whole and stuff like that and it's like they didn't do that with this which is

Interesting they did show footage from Infinity War and play it off like it's in this movie Which is kind of fun, but but in the Joker trailer as a DC fan I was watching this trailer and people were like what did you think I'm like I don't know

they didn't really give me anything you know I haven't seen Dark Knight and anything following really you never saw Dark Knight never saw Dark Knight

wow I love Heath Ledger so much I just never got around to it and then it's just been a thing yeah you need to go home and watch Dark Knight

we need to be moving that girl yeah I. We need to do a movie night, girl. Yeah. I was, my family were very much into Batman. Yeah. But like for some reason, it was just a crazy time. You gotta watch Dark Knight. Like Dark Knight is just one of those movies where it's just like, no, that's a good movie. You should see that movie.

Yeah. Luckily nothing's really been spoiled too bad. I mean, it's hard to, he's ledger, he's ledger died. Oh no. I'm so sorry. I'm the first to tell you. I'm so sorry. This is how you find out.

Oh my God. Can you imagine? He what? He, we. Yeah, you follow him on Twitter. He's still tweeting that thing. It's a meme account. Yeah.

I always thought it was weird. He would have such dank memes, but whatever. This, I just feel like this is kind of just the conversations that happen at work anyway right literally well I mean that's the beauty

of like what we do is like you know when we were just in a hole on the game side like we would just talk about the geekiest crap

and then we're able to kind of like blend in together and it's like you're able to come in with different things like I've watched you over the last couple years

become this Marvel super fan which is so cool to me I was a fan before. Like, I said, they asked what my favorite movie was in my interview, and I said Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah. But it's true. It's one of those things where you, like, you,

it's cool for me because, like, I literally grew up in the comic book industry. So, like, for the fact that, like, all this stuff was, like, kind of passe and I would kind of get picked on in, like, school for liking comics and stuff like that, and now it's, like, if you don't like comics, you get picked on in like school for liking comics and stuff like that. And now it's like, if you don't like comics, you get picked on like the kid that didn't go to the end game is like,

look at this. Like, it's so weird to me. It's so insane. And like watching like everybody in the office kind of like come in with different things. It's just, it's one of those things that I think is so amazing about these Marvel movies,

the superhero movies in general is like, they don't have a bad taste. Like we, you know, we remember Spider-Man three and like going to X-Men and be like, why are they in general, is like, they don't have a bad taste. Like, we, you know, we remember Spider-Man 3 and like going to X-Men and being like, why are they in black leather?

Like, that was the stuff. It was just like so dumb and like stuff before that and like watching, you know, the Hulk show and all these different things.

But now it's like so, it's perfect. Yeah. Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't change most of that movie last night. You know what I mean? Like I was like,

as a fan who knows a lot of these characters in and out, there's a lot that I wouldn't have changed. And the fact that we're able to share that together in the office is just so rad. I love that. Because anything, whatever your favorite Marvel movie was,

it had its moment in this. You'd be like, that's my guy, that's my girl. There was something for everyone. Again, it was just perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Look at you. I remember when I first started working here, that was my first time seeing offices being personalized. So when I saw your office having all your cool stuff,

and you eventually had an Infinity Gauntlet in there before, and I was like, what is that? What's up, Rob? These are Infinity Stones. Yeah, you explained a little bit. You're like, no, I wasn't nerdy enough. No, no, you weren't ready. You weren't ready.

I was like, trying to explain that stuff is hard. I still wasn't apparently because my body physically had an anxiety attack. Your office has always been something that's like a staple in all, everything I've been through here

because it's like, it's got everything that we all love. And like, I remember going at, even just here, like you have the video games going. Oh yeah.

You got it. I mean, that's the most important thing is like, I mean, it's something that we try to do is like not, is try to keep it, keep it fun. Yeah.

Cause if like, you know, I don't want to be the guy with like a corporate office and just like, who has charts on the wall. I don't know, business papers everywhere. I don't know how it works, but like,

just a chart, just a chart. Guys, it's going up. I don't know what it is, but a chart. Just a chart. Guys, it's going up. I don't know what it is, but it's going up. So business is great. I've never wanted to be that guy. So it's like I've always made sure like my office has tried to be like, you know, a moment of me, like a capture of what I love and like the geeky, dumb crap.

And I'd have a WWF belt hanging from my ceiling and like crap like that. I think that really echoes just like what you need to be successful on YouTube though is, is personality first and it should never stray away from that, which kind of going back to what we originally talked about is why I'm really excited to see what happens next with you guys is because it's personality first. It's unfiltered for the first time ever.

We get to make stuff and not have a committee decide whether it's a good or bad idea based on that one chart in my office. Yeah. I think it's cool. Like it's based on that one chart in my office. Yeah, the going up chart. Yeah. I think it's cool. Like, it's all of us coming up with ideas together. I'm really happy you're back and that you don't hate Smosh.

Yeah. I never hated my family. It was just, I want to see if I can be successful. You got to try. You can hate me a little bit. I like you more than my actual family, so it's fine. I mean, we've known each other for almost a decade. Almost a decade. Which, how we survived this long, I don't know.

You're such a crazy dude. I was the best man at his wedding. I was the best man at his wedding. He was the best man at my wedding. He actually helped me shave on my wedding day. As those who are watching this video can see, he doesn't know how to shave. I don't. Did you tie his tie for him, too?

No, Mari did the tie. Mari did the tie. I think maybe while he was putting on my jacket to shave. I don't. Did you tie his tie for him too? No, Mari did the tie. Mari did the tie. I think maybe while he was like putting on my jacket or something. I can't be trusted. Yeah, I had to put your vows on,

I had to download a teleprompter app on my phone because you couldn't read your vows because it was so small because he's blind. Yeah. So I had to get it on his phone. So we,

I mean, we've been in each other, this September will be nine years. Nine years. That we met. We've known in each other this September will be nine years nine years that we met we've known each other for that long so like

and the fact that you know we were lucky enough to be able to work in an office every day and see each other and not strangle each other yeah

was pretty impressive I mean as long as I've worked here I mean I've seen you guys it was like Captain and his first mate like that's what

it always seemed like to me just a couple of seamen. I'd see you. Yep. It came so fast. I'd see you like you would do this stroll into Matt Robb's office and the door would shut

and I was like, ah, it's the guys. It's Don Draper. We're just kissing. No one knew. Just a little kisses. The gauntlet. Yeah, no one knew. Just a little kisses. You've seen what I can stick to his beard. The gauntlet. Yeah, don't touch the gauntlet.

No, but I mean, that's what's been cool about it. And that's what's exciting about this is like, you know, we talked about it. We talked about what was happening with Smosh. And we talked about what you had coming up. And it's like, we want to make sure at the end of the day, we're still able to be who we are on film with each other. You know what I mean? And like, there's never been animosity. There's never been like, oh, I hate them.

Oh, I quit. Oh, I'm leaving. Like, you know, you were freelance when the Defy stuff went down. Yeah, that's something that a lot of people don't know is May 1st last year, I didn't work at Defy. I was just coming into film videos. And if you couldn't tell then you might not be able to tell now it's one of those things like it's just you know the there were mandates as there were was like our cast was too old and we couldn't put certain people on

everybody had to be a 21 year old and speak nine languages and so like it was kind of forced on me to be like we gotta we gotta phase them out and i was like i don't think it makes sense so like in may you know you and mari kind of became freelancers and that's the thing that no one really knows. No one really talks about. So now like the fact that you guys have able to like, have been able to like build this career for yourselves and still be able to come back and do stuff. That's the most important part.

And like when, when the defy thing happened, like I was there at the office, but because you texted me, I was like driving home. I was just literally hanging out with you that day. I was like, hey, you might want to come back. And I mean, I was there because again, it's family. I didn't lose my job that day. So I was just there to support and help and, you know, not steal stuff. Yeah.

It's, I mean, and the fact that we're able to kind of come back and we're able to like, we were able to completely triumph as the failure happened in November and come back as this Phoenix. And you're able to come back and Wes and Mari and laser corn and everyone. So hinky everybody. And we're going to have you back in more stuff. Like I said, we've got something coming up,

you know, next week and, uh, no, nothing sticky. Uh, no, you never said that.

Yeah. You never said that hot peppers. So sticky hot peppers all over your body. It sounds good. Ah, uh, physically hurt to hear. And I mean,

like, you know, we are probably going to do summer games this year. Say what? We're probably going to do summer games this year. Yes.

And you know, you'll be back for that. You'll be able to be a part of it. No, maybe, you never know. Times are different now. Times are different.

Times are different. Your time away has made you stronger. No, it hasn't. Your vision is so strong now. Five years later. Exactly.

But I mean, like, that's the beauty about it. It's like we can still make stuff together and you can still be in stuff. And there's no animosity. There's no like, I miss the old. It's like, no, the old is the old. Like, we want to evolve. We want to do something different. Yeah, everyone's like, do the wax job again.

I'm like, no, I'm going to do different things. It's like you saw that. You saw that. Why didn't you see it again? You know what I mean? Just watch the video again. Right. And if we're going to do something again, we're going to do it with different people like Secret Hitler. You never got to do different things. It's like you saw that. You saw that. Why didn't you see it again? You know what I mean? Just watch the video again. Right. And if we're going to do something again, we're going to do it with different people

like Secret Hitler. You never got to play Secret Hitler. Yeah, that was my first time. You know, I never got to do it. Like we actually did it. I just didn't play the game. You know what? It's fine.

And I blame. It was a fun video. It was fun. It was fun. Was it like a huge difference? Like was it a big deal? No, because like at the end of the day, you found the balance and it worked. The rules are

just there to help with the balance a little bit more. I feel like liberals won, right? Yeah. But it was down to the wire, though. Yeah, if you guys were playing by the rules, I think you guys would have won faster. I was a liberal. That's the crazy part. I was just being an anarchist. The fascists would have won

faster, so what you wound up doing worked better for the video. Yeah. See, look at that. So weird how that happened. I was so dumb in that video. It was great. No, you were hilarious. You were my favorite part of that video.

You were so funny. And like, you know, being able to do more stuff, like you've got a new series we're trying out where you get to do some crazy stuff in Sims. And like, we want to try stuff. And like, that's the beauty about YouTube is like, you can try stuff. And as long as you guys are with us, we're going to do some crazy stuff in Sims. And like, we want to try stuff. And like, that's the beauty about YouTube is like, you can try stuff. And as long as you guys are with us, we're going to do it together.

Like you're along for the ride, the fans. Yeah. And the comments, there's always going to be comments of, where's this person? They're not, just because someone's not in that video, maybe they're freaking sick, dude.

Or like during the shutdown, Olivia got to go do a movie. Right. Like, and then Shane was able to do Goldbergs without freaking out about scheduling and making sure he was a part of everything. Like, we're doing other stuff. Like, this is a dream job.

It's my dream job. But like, there's other things we kind of want to do. And it's like, who are we or who is, who's anybody to stand in someone's way of doing something that's like they've been dying to do their whole life? Yeah. We always talk about like, oh, you do what you have to do to survive. And I don't think that is us really now that I think about it. I think it's like, no, we do what we do to try to live now.

Right. I mean, there was for the longest time Defy, and we could talk about it, had a mandate that we couldn't do anything outside of Smosh. I got in trouble by one of the execs when I did that Legends of Gaming because I didn't know I was going to show up on the cover of Variety. And that show sucked.

It wasn't great. I know, but I mean, like, that's what's crazy is, like, we're able to do these things now and actually try things. Like, the notion that, like, oh, if Courtney goes and does a show, it's going to be, like, competition with Smosh. Like, no, that's not how the internet works. And there were these old execs making these demands. And it's like, no, if you go off and become a star on tv and you're still part of the smosh fan that's

all gonna help each other like that's what's cool about it and the fact that we're able to come back together and still do it and and you can pop in you you live 10 15 minutes away it did not take me long to get here it's great and we're all we're all close to each other we're able to kind of like do stuff and shoot stuff together and that's that's the beauty of it to how it should have been 15 years ago. You're going to hate having an office too close to me. Cause one day you'll just be in the office like, what smells like salami? And just like me looking like Thor.

Oh no, we get smells all the time. I need you around dude. Like I, yeah, the kitchen, the mythical kitchen. It's every day.

It's a journey. But I do, I miss, sometimes I show up to work and I'm like, I am really tight on my shoulders. Like for people who don't know, every day it's a journey um but i do i admit sometimes i show up to work and i'm like i am really tight on my shoulders like for people who don't know joven was known in the office for he's very good i could have been a masseur as as as uh marie's even it said as well yeah uh and and i don't know why uh this is making me uncomfortable i don't like this conversation

but i you i literally like you've helped me so much you got magic fingers bro this is making me uncomfortable I don't like this conversation at all but I literally you've helped me so much you got magic fingers bro I got you buddy a long long time ago I used to live with someone that was learning to be a masseuse Wes Johnson

there's like maybe one person that likes a Wes massage and he thinks he's good at massages is Wes good at massages? Who's not here to defend himself? He is not good at massages. He's too strong. He's just like, let me break your butt.

He's like, a good massage is just jamming your thumb deep inside of them. And if his thumbnail was too long, he'd probably puncture me. He's very strong. It's like just sausage fingers.

These giant sausage Wes fingers just massaging. Keith liked those massages a lot. Did he? Keith has probably never had an actual massage. Yeah. No, the human body is a machine and you have to know how the different cogs work and what flows to be able to heal.

Stop it. Just shut up. Just shut up. I regret this. Yeah. I don't like this at all. This is terrible. Yeah, but it smells like salami right now.

What's the deal? Well, I just like my morning salami sandwiches. That's weird. Yeah, but it smells like salami right now. What's the deal? I just like my morning salami sandwiches. That's weird. I don't miss your salami breaks. Fried bread, a lot of mustard

and just salami and a few onions. Yeah, gross. That's my normal scent. That's if you guys don't get on the other side of the camera. Thank God.

I'd be happy because you'd be like, is this an A&E show? Does this guy have a problem? This is bad. This is the intervention. Yeah, this is it. I've always wondered if smell will ever be a component in like TV or movies.

I hope not. It's like in 4D stuff. Because I'll have to stop. It's like Shrek. Or the Simpsons ride. Or the Simpsons ride, yeah. Simpsons, bring it back. Bring it back.

Full circle, baby. I love it. So you've got a couple shows now. Yeah, so I am at full force on my YouTube channel, but so that's always me present. I am working on, so there's top fives. I've got the Marvel show that happens once an update. When that comes around, totally unprompted.

Thank you, Shane and Damien, for being the inspirations in my life. We got Shane right here. Come on in. Come on in. He's got boxing clothes on. And then, yeah, we're just, I'm actually,

I have sold a cartoon. Hey! And we are currently trying to get that up and moving, so I'm very excited about that. I don't have a lot of information

because apparently it takes a long time to do that. True. So it's in the process and maybe the fans will hear some familiar voices if we get those opportunities.

It's just you doing all the voices. So since you work at Marvel now, like, there's like a Guardian story movie. Yeah, I know all the details. If I could, you should just like get me in there. Yeah, just. Just in the room with us. Into Chris Pratt's green room. In his dressing room, right?

I mean, to start. Yeah, to start. Sure. That's where most people start, actually. Wow. What's that mean? I don't like Sure. That's where most people start, actually. Wow. What's that mean? I don't like it. What does that mean?

You're in, but yuck. I'm in, but like what? What's going on? I'm having a great time. I'm very excited with what I'm working on right now because for the first time, I feel like, it was always Jovenshire with Smosh Games, and it's the first time where I'm definitely on my own, and I feel like I'm an adult and kind of like I have a business now.

I run a production. But at the same time, I'm very excited now that you guys are up and running to be able to jump back in here. I'm just excited for us.

I think it's just a... Because again, I don't think it's surviving anymore. I think now we're just... We're living. We're learning how to do it but we're all together

and we're working on stuff and like you were saying, if someone's on the channel, they've got a channel. Go watch and support what people are doing. That's what you want to do. That's why we broke down the fourth wall. So you guys aren't just the fans, you're family too.

So come hang out with us. And then comment, why are you not in Smosh Games anymore? Yeah. Where are you? Where's this person? Where are you? Why are you not the thing that I know? What am I? What am I? What is Joven? Where is Joven? Yeah, exactly. Well, where are you? Where's this person? Where are you? Why are you not the thing that I know? What am I? What am I?

What is Joven? Where is Joven? Yeah, exactly. Well, that's awesome. And you know, you're going to be back in a couple of weeks for another video.

And as I've been told right now, yes, as you've been told right now, right now, and you're going to love it. Maybe a Smosh for our Grinch. Yeah, maybe,

maybe. I like how to say Smosh for our Grinch. You have to like sit out of the side of your mouth right now, because it's not official official. It's just the stroke it's the stroke you're having well thank you guys

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