Smosh Mouth - S1: #15 - Why Cancel Culture Should Be Cancelled

Episode Date: May 29, 2019

Ian, Courtney, and Shayne kick off Gemini season by breaking down all of the current YouTuber drama, from Tati & James Charles to Cody Ko & Jake Paul, and discuss why cancelling someone in the midst of a scandal may not be the best idea.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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like, oh, this person that I idolized is a monster, and then they freak out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you should do in any legal situation, is face all of his lawyers by yourself. A guy thinks I was super in, like, thinking that we were dating, and he, like, avoids me now

because he thinks I'm, like, in love with him or something. Virgo season, I'm just gonna wear a cloak all month, hide away, and be like, don't look at me. An old TV in the back just playing Ally McBeal. Yes, do it, Ally. Yes, you litigate. What level are you? 37.

Okay, I'm a little hot. It's the Smashcast. Number 15, bros What? Oh my gosh, I'm really glad I realized you were starting Because I was about to sing some really copyrighted music Oh, good We're just going to cancel the whole podcast

Today, myself, Ian Hecox Is joined by the lovely Courtney Miller And the illustrious Shane That's me Illustrious Pain painting a lot. I'm having a great morning. My avocado toast was creamer free. I saw somebody comment on that episode

when we talked about the avocado toast. I believe that was two episodes ago. Because not only did we talk about avocado toast, I also talked about my snobbery about coffee, which you will not stop me from being snobbish about coffee. Somebody was like, wow, they're so California. I think people enjoy coffee everywhere.

Everywhere. Pretty much. Funny story, my Keurig broke the next day after we recorded that podcast. Signed from God. But I fixed it because I'm a handyman.

Oh, okay. Wow. Dude, I fixed my dishwasher last weekend. I felt like suchman. Oh, okay. Wow. Dude, I fixed my dishwasher last weekend. I felt like such an adult. It was actually the easiest thing ever. I was going to say, are you all like greasy? Are you in a wife beater?

No. Are you like a cat with a rag? It was like Lego. I took like two pieces off and I was like, oh, there's the problem. And then. Oh, there's a chicken bone in the spinner thing. There was like a bunch of paper in there. I don't know if somebody was trying to wash their homework in my dishwasher.

I put a paper plate in there. I like that it's your home. So you're like, who is doing this? You say that a lot. Hey, who was doing this in my house? Like with where, I don't know how this decoration got here. It's like, who is in your house other than you? I don't know.

Hey, who pooped in my bed? Well, that was me, clearly. But the other stuff, I don't know. I don't pay attention to things. But I do, I will say, I thoroughly rinse all of my dishes that go into the dishwasher. Oh, good. Like the good boy that I am. Right. And this must have been

perpetrated by somebody else i'm just putting it out there interesting ryan todd because he's been living with you oh that's true so so ryan todd our our longtime director um still lives in sacramento and he comes down here to shoot with us and to work with us. So to save money, I allow him to sleep on my couch for, we trade off every other week. So it's kind of like every other week, it's like we're two divorced dads that live together. Don't you have a guest room? Couldn't you get a bed and put that in there? I do have a guest room.

You should put a fold out. You should get a bed. Guys, let's start a petition. Get a bed for Ryan Todd. And also in that same petition, can we also make sure that Ian goes to therapy? Yeah. Well, hold on.

Let's try to make- Same petition. Let's try to make some money off of this. Purple, hit us up if you want us to sponsor your beds. Because I know they do a lot of podcasts, right? I don't know. That's a bed company. I've never heard of them.

Sponsor us. All right. And then also Talkspace. Hit us up as well. Yeah, both of you guys. Yeah, please. Get at him. Because I'm not going to go to therapy until I'm paid for it.

Oh, my gosh. He goes to college to become a therapist to get paid for therapy. No. In the last episode, Pam came on here, my ex-girlfriend, and we talked about how I never went to therapy and how I need to go. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I still want to. I still, like, know I need to go to therapy. And, like, I totally believe in therapy and all this stuff, but I still haven't gone.

Someone has since created a Twitter profile. The name of the profile is Ian's Reminder. And the bio says, reminding, something like reminding Ian to go to therapy. And now they're just tweeting me every day saying, go to fucking therapy, go to fucking therapy. Wow. Well, it sounds like you need to go to fucking therapy. And now they're just tweeting me every day saying, go to fucking therapy. Go to fucking therapy. Wow. Well, it sounds like you need to go to fucking therapy. I think it's important to go. Even when you don't think anything's wrong with you.

Well, that's when you should go because you want to go before something awful happens that then brings out, that exemplifies all those insecurities and issues. I don't have any insecurities. What are you talking about? I'm not insecure about anything. What are you talking about, bruh?

Not insecure? Do you want to fight right now? Insecurities are for girls. I don't have any. And I'm not a girl. I'm not insecure about being a girl. Damn. Yeah, it's crazy the timing of my therapy i had my first session the day before the shutdown of the fire wow good timing right before anything was wrong yeah yeah a nice little good little pillow to fall to fall back on yeah yeah i was i was actually really impressed with the response to last week's episode there was there was obviously a couple tweets that were like, wow,

got a freaking beta over here. Oh my God. But actually, those guys are always going to be that way. But surprisingly, it was only a couple.

Like everyone else was very positive. Some people were like, wow, that really encouraged me to go talk to my significant other. That's awesome.

And like, oh wow, it related to this part of it. So, yeah. Yeah sometimes the internet likes healthy non-abusive relationships on Twitter

I was listening to it on my drive drive home and I got halfway through it and it was so good I listened to it while I was at the gym as well like I kept going I was like I gotta keep listening to this man in between squats, he's just hearing Pam

like, lovely voice. It was actually, it was leg day. Yeah. I was listening to you guys talk about your problems. I was doing squats, listening to you guys

talk about your relationship. That's, um... How's that? How's that make you feel, Ian? Uh, it's a little strange. I feel like I need, I need something a little bit more up-tempo

than people... Well, I did do some lunges. Okay. like I need, I need something a little bit more uptempo. Well, I did do some lunges. Okay. While you were, while you were, so that, oh, oh, you mean the, what you're listening to is uptempo. I was saying what I was doing was uptempo while listening to you. I think. I love podcasts during workouts, especially when it's like the boring parts, like cardio. I totally love a podcast. It makes it go way faster, except for when it's a funny one. And like, when I'm like in the middle of like doing a set of something yeah and you start laughing and i'm like oh yeah that's dangerous i i always avoid that for that reason well same thing if i'm

running and i'm listening to a comedy podcast i don't want to look like a psycho running just laughing maniacally yeah it's. Have you ever seen somebody smiling while they're running? No. It's weird. Yeah. I'll sometimes listen to audio books

while I'm at the gym and that's a full body workout working out your mind and your body at the same time. Yeah. I've listened to the entirety of the first couple

Game of Thrones books while I was working out. Whoa. Yeah. You work out for a while. How long do you work out? I'd say it's roughly hour 15 to two hours. He's doing pull-ups.

This character was, blood was gushing on him. He's like. Littlefinger turned to Sansa and said, Sansa, you can trust me, I promise. I'm just like. Don't do it. Give him a pump on. Don't do it, Sansa. Sansa, don't listen to him.

But like about the podcast episode, what I meant was like it's, you hear usually so much drama and like hatred coming from breakups. And I think it's refreshing for people to hear the healthy side and good side of a breakup. Unlike what's been happening on Twitter lately. Yeah. to hear the healthy side and good side of a breakup. Unlike what's been happening on Twitter lately. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a little bit of a, what could you call it?

A shit show on the internet. Yeah, there's three sort of, every time you think it's going to smooth out a little bit on internet land. It doesn't. And it's only gotten worse. I think this has been the craziest couple of weeks as far as YouTube goes. Just because it's been so many different. All of these would work if they were in one month, each of them individually. Right. They all happened within two weeks of each other.

Yeah, man. And we thought the ProJared thing would smooth over and that'd be done with and everyone would go into their respective holes. But oh no, baby. No, it's not. Because I woke up this morning to my friend being like, whoa, you seeing this? And it's Holly Conrad, the accused mistress of the whole cheating scandal with ProJared, clapping back at the former wife of ProJared and just kind of spelling out this whole story with receipts,

being like, hey, she's not great. She's abusive. She said that this whole sort of like poly, there was like a poly relationship kind of thing with poly. Those of you who don't know, I don't know if people don't know what that means, but like you could be with or sleep with other people in a relationship. And I guess she said she was okay with that. Then the receipts didn't exactly show that she was okay with that.

And that's just kind of the thing. Like that's why kind of the thing. That's why I didn't want to make, when we were talking about it before, I didn't want to make it about Holly because it's like, look, we don't know what goes on in a personal relationship and that's honestly none of our business

and that's why I chose to focus on him soliciting fans for nudes. Which is obviously still the case. Still the problem. Still did that. So that's still the crime. Yeah. The overall crime.

But as far as their relationship goes, you can't really know what really went on there. And that's the same with the Tati and James Charles stuff. Yeah. You know, because Tati comes out, accuses James Charles of all these things that are kind of personal between the two of them. Everybody takes her side because they're believing her. Yeah, they want to support someone. James Charles comes back a week later, and they're all like,

oh, now Tati's the villain and James Charles is our hero. And it all made me realize, I'm like, if you don't know someone personally, you have zero idea what's going on. Yeah. You're never going to know. It's just so uncomfortable and weird to see so many people's dirty laundry. You know, it's just like, remember when you'd be like, oh, I love that celebrity. Oh, did you hear he's actually married? And you're like, oh, cool. And that's it.

Like now it's like, I know too much about these people that I don't know. And I feel like I don't like it. I really don't. And then that scandal opened up to all these other things and allegations that had nothing to do with the reason why she came out in the first place. And look, I'll be completely honest. I didn't watch all of the videos because I got better shit to do and it doesn't involve my life. But I did watch some. And then I saw some of the some of the fallout and some of the other stuff

and it's like I'm just sitting there like well I mean most of these people are going to benefit from this. Oh they're all going to benefit from it. But but then you have

like you know Jeffree Star weighs in and lays on some pretty heavy allegations against James Charles saying I think, I think he said that he accused James Charles of molesting a Dolan twin while he was sleeping or something. Yeah, I don't know the details on that.

I didn't even hear that. I didn't hear about that. I just saw in James's video, he was like, yeah, there's some weird rumor about me and the Dolan twins, but we're fine. And they were one of the first people to call me and check on me and see if I was okay. Where did you hear that one? Yeah, I didn't hear that one because all I heard was that Jeffree Star said he was going to come at him with receipts and then was like, you know what? I choose to just stay out of this. And like I take everything back.

But that does bring up something that i something i was upset about with the whole thing and this was when with tati's thing because in her video she said james charles you you kind of harassed or tried to manipulate this waiter and i i'm curious what other people's opinions are on this because my opinion is i'm like you don't get to, you don't get to bring up an accusation for another victim. I'm like, that is the victims, that person who was attacked, if they want to bring it to the forefront, if they want to make it public, they are fully allowed to talk about that. You don't get to accuse someone else of doing something to someone else. You don't get to say, hey, this person, you assaulted this other person and I saw it.

That just opens up a can of worms on the internet that is awful. Yeah, I guess it was a tweet that Jeffrey had sent to James and then James posted it. So it's like, ah. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, but it's like, if you're going to say, like, that's some high crime. Jeffrey gets very heated and emotional and, like, impulsive when he posts on social media. It's pretty regular. Right, but it's like, come on, man.

Like, Jeffrey's got this huge business to run. Why is he getting involved in this garbage? Yeah. At the end of the day it's it's none of his business adults trying to take down like a kid yeah that's just turned 20 like it was before it even even before james charles came back i was just like this is a 37 year old yeah who mentored this teenager and is now like i'm gonna destroy you because you promoted a brand that competes with me i'm like that's a little that's crazy to me that I would never, I can't think of anything that would

happen where I'd, in my mind, I'd be like, I'm going to make a 45 minute YouTube video annihilating a person. And what is really scary is how much people enjoy it. Millions of people enjoyed watching someone getting destroyed. We love it. Yep. We are so into it. It's the gladiatory games of the modern day. It's very sadistic. And it's not massively sadistic, but it's something that seems to exist within the average person. It just feels like high school. Like you hear a rumor and you believe it.

And then someone has an even crazier rumor that's like, no, it's actually even more insane. Like, oh, okay. Like, do not believe everything that you hear. Well, so these people have a lot of followers and they have a lot of money. And there's nothing we like seeing more than somebody with a lot of money getting, you know, dragged.

Because it's like, oh, ha ha. Like, you know, we all, you know, he because, because it's like, oh, ha ha. Like, you know, we, we all, you know, he's a, he's a celebrity and, um, you know, people are, people are jealous of, of success like that. And obviously there's, there's probably some, some hatred for like who he is and how he represents himself. So, I mean, and I don't know, maybe a lot of those people are just angry girls too, like angry young girls. I don't know. There's, I think there's, there's just a whole lot of stuff and all of our lives are boring. So when something exciting like this happens, you know, some of us happen to jump on the wagon and we're like, yeah, watch it burn.

I think we all, I think a lot of us are just bored. I mean, I really, and I think we really want a villain right now because things are so muddy. And that's the reality of life is no one's perfectly good. So we kind of want to find that. And we kind of want to be like, oh, well, this person's evil. So we're all good because that person shows what he's truly bad. So we're not. They enjoy finding opportunities that make,

that are making other people look lower. So they feel higher and feel elevated in their ego. It's affirmation. Yeah. Yeah. The amount, the amount that people unfollowed James Charles. And then came right back.

Crazy. Oh, did they? They all came right back. Tati lost a ton of subscribers and they all went back to James. It was so fast. Hilarious. It was so fast.

And I mean, I can't say that I'm innocent. I mean, when she came out with her video, I was like, wow, I can't believe James Charles. In my head, and now I'm looking back and I'm going, I can't believe I would make a decision that quickly based off a YouTube video. Well, when she came out with that video, my first response was, wow, I can't believe this video is 40 minutes long and it's not getting to the point it there really isn't a point and i was like i was like so wait what why why is she mad there's something about makeup and like i just i i just couldn't understand why people gave a shit about any of it and then it was just like i don't think they knew i don't think they knew why i think they just wanted to hate him yeah and then it was just like more... I don't think they knew why. I think they just wanted to hate him. Yeah, and then it was like he clapped back with receipts about refuting

all the garbage reasons that she had, and then we got clapbacks from other people. Yeah, I mean... It's just like, I don't... It's all garbage, and it started from a garbage place, and it's just piling on more garbage. It's dirty laundry. It's started from a garbage place. And it's just piling on more garbage. And it's dirty laundry.

It's because she made it public. If I met Tati on the streets and she said, hey. Hey, it's Tati on the streets. Tati on the streets. And she said, oh, yeah, James Charles, we're friends. And I helped him start his whole thing. And then recently he promoted a competing brand. I'd be like, that's really crappy.

I'm really sorry to hear that. It's that she made it public. That was like, that doesn't need to be public. That sounds like a very personal thing. But she wanted, she chose to make it public and she felt she faced public repercussions and is now acting like, I can't believe this happened.

Like, of course it happened. And if that small mistake hadn't happened with the promotion, she wouldn't have aired out all his dirty laundry and accused him of all this other stuff. I think she might have still. Like maybe if something else set her off. Yeah.

But it's like she was just waiting for something else. Otherwise she was holding this back willy-nilly. But it's so ridiculous because why did Jeffree Star have to get involved? It wasn't about him. Why did he get involved? Because you see that it's – ridiculous because why did Jeffree Star have to get involved? It wasn't about him. Why did he get involved? Because you see that it's – It's reality TV. Because her video got 16 million views in like two days.

It's smart. It's why Jake Paul was like, oh, this is the thing that's working right now. And then cancels Cody Ko. Cody Ko. Or tries to. He cancels you. But this is the thing. Even though it looks, it appears as though it blew up in Jake Paul's face,

Jake Paul is going to get more views from this. That video got so many views. It works. It works every time. It works for now. But what is the public opinion of Jake Paul? Not that he's ever really seemed to care about the public opinion, but it's not, I don't think that's really thinking long-term when, when you're, when you're just looking for

short-term massive gains, you're not thinking about, does this really reflect who I am and what I believe, or am I just chasing something in the hopes that I get views or followers? But yeah, that, Oh God. I will say that video is hilarious. Well, yeah. Oh, God. I will say that video is hilarious. Well, okay, so let me wrap up the James Charles thing. I just want to just wrap that up in a nice little package, kick it into the garbage can.

They all made those videos. They all got massive amounts of views. Then people were like, okay, where's the proof of all this crazy shit? Molestation, accusationation all this stuff and then suddenly everyone's like we've decided to all just be friends and this whole thing is in the past now please no one ever talk about it ever again well i think in a way i think james charles kind of had the last word because he had all the receipts and had actual video proof from the people who were accused and all this stuff.

He had proof that those things weren't true. And then Tati was like, I'm on family vacation, so I'm not going to speak on it. And then Jeffrey's like, I'm coming at you with the receipts. And then the next day he's like, you know what? I'm never doing this again. I take back my involvement. It's like, oh, OK, so you are OK. So James kind of won.

And that's how I see it. I feel like James kind of won that one. I think the only people that won. Were the people watching? Was YouTube. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Damn, that got a lot of views.

So many views. It's crazy. I mean, the reality is you don't, we don't know any of them. We have no idea. That's so weird. And you might think you know who's the worst person on the Internet or the worst, you know, person out there. You have no idea. There's probably a YouTuber you think is great and is actually evil.

You have no clue. Yeah. It's like with Jake Paul's documentary that Shane Dawson did. It's like I just I wanted to watch it, but like I just would get upset and be like, this is literally none of my business. This is no one's business. I don't need to understand this person. It's their job to put out content and for other people to enjoy it. It's not your job.

Bo Burnham dealt for a long time with when he would perform and have this persona on stage. When people met him in person, they expected him to act a certain way. And it's like, no, that's a separate thing. I'm still a human being and I have my life that I'm going to keep my own. It's like people, I just like, I hope this whole cancel culture and like this, everything is my business stuff is just, people just need to get over themselves and like just allow content to be enjoyed and be genuine. And I just hate it.

I think the problem is the content isn't genuine. So then when that veil is pulled back, then fans realize like, oh, this person that I idolized is a monster and then they freak out. So I think it's really just like people aren't representing who they truly are online and because YouTube is so close to reality compared to television or movies, people feel like, no, no, no, that is the real person.

Yeah, we pretend it's reality. Yeah, yeah. Like a David Dobrik vlog, he presents it as if it's supposed to be real. Obviously, it's completely real. So wait, wait, wait. You're not telling me that in the daily normal world, David Dobrik just isn't going around buying people Ferraris. No, no, I refuse to believe that. I think he's been doing that since day one.

I feel like the last time I saw him in person was like at VidCon. He's just like tired. I'm sure he's tired. He works so much. Yeah, yeah. That is the thing I'll say overall is every YouTuber, regardless of what type of content they're making, they're all hard workers, man.

Even Jake Paul and Logan Paul, I'm like, God, the work ethic is crazy. Yeah. Everyone's just grinding. And people who have worked, I think we know some people who have worked with James Charles and they've said James Charles is like a powerhouse and he works really hard too. I don't doubt it. James Charles, or Jeffrey Star

has the freaking company. All three of them are super hard workers. I mean, I can't imagine. I mean, when did James Charles start Jeffree Star has the freaking company. All three of them are super hard workers. I mean, I can't imagine. I mean, when did James Charles start making videos? When he was like 14? A couple of years, yeah. Like the fact that he has this, he has such a control over the way that he presents himself.

And even I watched, I actually watched his entire receipts, receipts video. Me too. That was entertaining. And he is like, you could tell he has total control of like how he looks on video. Totally. And he's able to completely somehow put together this like 12 minute long run on sentence that you you literally can't escape the video because he's so good at like whether he talks so fast yeah and so constantly

that there's no way that you can actually like pull away like with with the toddy video i was like i was like a minute and i was like yeah a lot of pauses there. A lot of pauses. I think James Charles has mentioned he's actually like impatient in general. Like with other makeup videos, he puts it on like sped up. Yeah. So when he watches them, and I think he's generally just like wants things to move faster. So he just thinks in two times. Fast forward, yeah. I believe that, man.

He is a product of growing up on YouTube. Yeah. He was the first male on the CoverGirl magazine. I wish the cancel culture affected other jobs like it does makeup gurus on YouTube. Because imagine if your house was on fire and some firefighters showed up and it was like, oh, that's Craig the firefighter. He was mean to his buddy, Steve, the firefighter, and he didn't support Steve's birthday. So, Greg, get away. You're not allowed to take out the fire here in my house. I don't support you.

That's my dad's whole life. And that's the tea. And that's the tea. And that's the tea, chief. Yeah, cancel culture is very strange. Who do you think was, like, the first person online that got cancelled? Wasn't it Toby? Toby Turner?

Kind of? I mean that's one of them for sure but there's gotta be That's one of the big ones. Shay Carl kind of got cancelled. Was that afterward? That was after.

I don't know there's probably someone forever ago who got cancelled but it really is more now because we follow people. We used to just kind of watch video by video,

but now people subscribe to someone. And so if something happens, there's a lot of power there and going, oh, I can unsubscribe to you and destroy you. I guess maybe Toby was really like one of the first people to get like super canceled where, you know, he saw like a serious hit to his following. And that was before the beast evolved, where, you know, he saw like a serious hit to his following. Yeah, and that was before the beast evolved,

the cancel beast where he would have clapped back because like he didn't really fully clap back. And I think it wasn't until like the past year where he decided to like upload a video, like reopening up the whole thing. Yeah, which is weird. It's weird. I think, I mean, he was the first cancel i ever experienced but now but now we're reaching now we're reaching a level of like the cancel culture where

where it's now pierced beyond people that care about youtube drama like i think like newsweek and other like publications were reporting on the james char situation. And so you have all these like 40-year-old, you know, stay-at-home moms that are like, who is this James, James Carl's man? Yeah. Well, the James Charles thing is also weird because with Toby or with a lot of things, it's canceling someone

because they committed a crime or something. It's like, oh, they're a criminal. That's one thing. But the James Charles one, we were canceling him and we weren't really sure why. Yeah. That's what was weird

is I'm like, I'm never going to cancel someone because of a personal thing that happened between him and a friend if he didn't support. Like, honestly, even hearing it's like,

people were mad. People were canceling him because he didn't support her brand and he supported a company. And I'm like, that is a business decision that he is allowed to make. He,

I do not care what business decisions he makes. And the circumstances are all the same. But yeah, I'm like, that is a business decision that he is allowed to make. I do not care what business decisions he makes. And the circumstances are all the same. But, yeah, I feel like if I – and I've had people who are, like, in the digital space who have wronged me. And I'm like, you have the option to not be able to work through it on your own and be okay. Or you can get it off your chest in this kind of immature way, which is announcing it to the world. Which is like a feast for all websites. Twitter.

Everyone goes to Twitter to see what's up. Every new, it's, it's everyone's just feasting on it and gaining AdSense from everything. It's crazy. Also the thing that like she got mad at him about were fucking vitamins. And she made so much money off of the whole thing for her vitamins. Like vitamins that will make you pretty.

I can't believe James Charles ate Flintstone vitamins. That made her so mad. I just don't, I don't know, supplements. It's ridiculous. When I see it's like supplements, I'm like, okay. It is weird though because I feel like we exist in this part of YouTube. There's a lot of channels that are just so out of the drama. And there's all these channels that are constantly in it.

So it's weird to watch it from the outside. I mean, I guess now I'm like, wait, now are we part of that drama loop? No, because we're not like reveling in it. It's not like Keemstar or something where it's like, oh, wait till you hear this. We're just, we're. Damien. Wait till you hear this. It's also kind of in the past now. Like we're walking around the rubble being like, oh, wait till you hear this. We're just, we're... Damien. Wait till you hear this. It's also kind of in the past now.

Like, we're walking around the rubble being like, oh, what happened here? We're like, whoa, what's that? That's gross. But the Jake Paul video, I thoroughly enjoyed. That is actually... I haven't seen it. I wish it was scripted because it's so funny.

Oh, my God. Because it's him being like, I'm going to confront Cody Ko. He's an internet bully, which he's mainly bringing up just that Cody Coe has made fun of him and his brother. Oh, no doubt. And that's the only reason he's upset. But he goes to confront him

and he catches Cody Coe off guard. And all he says is, you're a cyber bully. I don't like that. Yeah. I don't like that. I don't like that. I'm like, this is so funny. It's almost as effective.

It's so funny. It's almost as effective as the Dobre brothers stop that video. It really is. No, it was actually a joke. I was like, this is so, so funny. Maybe he's the Kaufman of our generation. He really could be because, man. What was Cody's?

Is my mic not working? Hello? You just got to get closer. Hello? Sorry, you've been, Courtney, we canceled you. I didn't see the video so what did cody co say cody co responded to well code in the video he's just like um i'm sorry man i'm sorry for cyber bullying you he says that he just kind of like no no he says in the very

he's like oh man i'm i'm sorry for cyber bullying yeah also also there's literally no good way that that he could have responded in that situation. Like Jake Paul ambushed him with cameras and was like, you're a cyber bully. And I was like, what are you supposed to say to that? No? Yeah. Yes? Cody co-uploaded a video just kind of going over it a little bit.

Really? I need to see it. Oh, and his podcast comes out. Yeah. And he's just kind of like, yeah, it's weird. I don't know what to say about it. I've never, like, any, the evidence that Jake Paul used is not good evidence. Cody Ko has totally, like, gone and dissected videos and, like, made fun of people.

Like, there's this whole, like, blue ass water where he's making fun of this, like, influencer. But he later had that dude on his podcast and it was, like, a wonderful time. And he's like, oh, I want to have him back. He's actually a really cool dude. And so like it just feels like Jake didn't even do much research at all. No, because Jake is confusing criticism with bullying. Like what Cody Coe makes is critiques of videos. He's not bullying people because he thinks they look dumb.

If they say something dumb in a video, he critiques that. And that's the whole- And there's so many of those. That's a whole section of YouTube. And maybe it's a small difference if you're dumb. Are you cyber, but I think it's,

but I mean like, look, if he honestly believed that, that Cody co was a cyber bully because he made fun of his videos, then dude's got to take a little step back. H3 was like, wait, you doxed post Malone's house.

And then he was later held up at gunpoint because of that. So no, you don't get to call someone out for cyberbullying when you've legitimately bullied people. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to go and call Jake Paul a cyberbully. I don't have receipts.

I think it was a stunt. I think Jake Paul knew it was a stunt. I think before he made the video, he's like, this is going to get a lot of views and it'll. He actually, all Jake Paul did was help Cody Ko. Cody Ko is going to have so many more views and subscribers now. I think it's very interesting. Jake was just like, I'm going to try a cancel video. I'm going to try cancel culture.

I see if that'll. Because, I mean, him and Tana Mongeau have been making videos lately. And like that was their whole thing that that was kind of making them more relevant. And they had talked about, like, yeah, we haven't really been controversial in a while. Like, what's the deal? The timing was very suspect. It's very funny. And then Tana, in a way, I think kind of using jokes and humor kind of got Jake out of that slump of controversy or whatever.

Just by being like, when he's in a scandal and you're not. It's like a photo, and everyone was like, oh, yeah, anyway. I hadn't been watching their videos, but I heard they were actually kind of endearing. It's cute. The videos with him and Tana

were actually kind of cute and funny. It's a really cute dynamic. So hopefully he just goes back to doing that. I think there's a world where Logan and Jake, and I haven't heard anything about Logan in a while, but if he just goes back to doing that. I mean, I think there's a world where if Logan and Jake, and I haven't heard anything about Logan in a while, but if he just like was like, oh, maybe I'll just start making content that isn't like this. I'll just have fun.

Yeah, I think he came out with a couple series that I think were not problematic, but I don't think they were really getting a ton of views. I mean, the problem is like when you build your whole sort of career off of, you know, pushing the limit, you have to keep pushing the limit if you want to keep people entertained. Well, it's like if Keemstar was like,

"'Hey, I'm gonna talk about positive things today "'and the good things that people have done.'" Nobody would watch it. Yeah, it's an unfortunate reality. So I understand there's probably a part of Jake Paul that's real that doesn't want to do that but he's thinking I have to.

That's tough. Let's all pray for Jake Paul. He needs it. He needs it bad guys. Text 555 55555555 8555. I can't sing in the arms of an angel. 0.31415.

One penny a day. Sarah McLaughlin's Angel is playing in the background. One penny a day. We'll go to Jake Paul. Jake Paul. Just directly to him. Cancel protection fund. Cancel protection fund.

So he could go to school and learn the difference between criticism and bullying. I'm just thinking of like a anti-cancel suit that you could wear. It's like, well, you can't get canceled if you're wearing this suit. I just think all this YouTube drama is going to make for a great YouTube detention sketch. Oh, snap. I think it's time for another. I agree. We do need to come out with another one of those.

They're really fun. The format's really fun of those ones. We were having a conversation yesterday of like, oh, if we made another, what YouTubers would we play? So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see, man. Because when you played Logan Paul, you died dabbing, right?

I did. I think I did. Log Paul and died dabbing. So yeah, maybe we could take on a fictional version of Jake Paul or something. So Jake and Tana are dating. They're now Jana. They're quote unquote dating. They're like teasing that they are, but they aren't like just making this will they won't they thing.

I don't know where. They should have a new word for like clout dating. You know what I mean? Isn't that power couple? Well, I mean like, but power couple could be like aout dating. You know what I mean? Isn't that power couple? Well, I mean like, but power couple could be like a real thing. Like do you think this is a real thing or is this a play for clout?

No, you're right. It's a clout thing. So there's gotta be a new, we need to come up with a new word for that because you know, first it was like drama for clout and now it's like, oh no, they're getting together

and they're like doing kissy things for clout. Kiss for clout. Reclouchenship? Relation clout? No. Clouchenship? I don't know. We're gonna get to the bottom of this.

We'll let you guys know. Tweet at us and comment some ideas. You'll get the credit. So Courtney, your apartment's falling apart? Oh yeah, I put that down. My flooring is coming up in large. There's one that's almost as big as this table

here. And I stumble over it sometimes. It's just air. It's like that cheap laminate wood that's just a layer of rubber pretty much that looks like wood. And in two places it's like a bubble coming up. And they said they were going to fix it. But it's taking longer than they thought.

Are you sure you don't live above a fault line? Or maybe you live above like a geyser like they have in Yellowstone? They checked for moisture. There's no leak. There's no geyser. Wait, did they check for moisture or did they check for geysers? Geysers. They didn't bring their geyser test arms.

Dang it. Amateurs. Yeah. So my stuff, my furniture has kind of moved around away from the bubbles so that they can cut with scissors probably, the laminate wood, and lay some new stuff down or re-glue it with some Elmer's. Kindergarten scissors. Yeah. They're going to fix it with some scissors and some Elmer's glue.

And some Elmer's glue, yeah. Yeah. I love my apartment though. It's like my favorite that I've lived in so far for sure. And it like, it was funny when my landlord came in,

he was like, you've done well with the place. It makes it look good. And I was like, thank you. It's my favorite so far. And he was like, oh my God.

And it's like nice. Are you like crazy tight with your landlord? He's chill. He's young. He's like, he's not my landlord. He's 12 years old. He's like, I think he like works He's chill. He's young. He's like, he's not my landlord. He's 12 years old.

He's like, I think he like works for the landlord. He's like the manager for the building. But like, it's awesome. Like I texted him about my floor and he had someone over within the hour and it was like eight o'clock at night. I, dude, there are things like the apartment's dark. I wish I had more light in it, but like I'll take a good landlord system over some extra sunshine. Yeah.

It's priorities in your apartments, guys. I want to know more about this landlord. Is he cute? Oh, shit. He's actually, he kind of looks like you. Oh, so he's cute. He's, like, real fucking cute. He's a snack.

He has the same. Oh, my God. He has the same, like. He's a snack. He has the same... Oh, my God. He has the same, like... He's a whole lunchable. He's the same, like, kind of monotone-ish voice as you, I think. But his hair is black. And, um... Dark Ian.

Ooh, yeah. But he's really nice. My landlord's a, uh, older German lady. Wow. Yeah, I had a noise complaint early on when I moved in, and she knocked on the door and was like, it's very loud and it's late at night, so please don't. What were you doing that was so loud?

We were trying to put up picture frames. Oh, okay. He's slanging. Dong. I can hear that you're slanging dong. So please stop. Dude, it's so nice. The people next to me who I share a wall with, they moved out.

And so it's been empty. That's where my sound system is. And then there's a big gap before the next apartment. And the girl above me says she can never hear me. So I've been blasting music with my sound bar. Yeah, slanging beats. Slanging beats. Shoot, dude.

Shoot, dude. Slang those beats, dude. That's cool. Because I had pitched you when – because some of the people that we work with are now moving closer to the office because some people live very far away, like our producer, Kevin. Yeah. He lives in Oregon. And I was like, yeah, maybe he needs a roommate. Maybe you could move in move with him you're like i like living alone i do i've lived with people and kevin you're married kevin's

married yeah and i do not need to live with another i've lived with couples before and it's yeah you don't want to hear marriage banging that's just weird marriage banging a whole other beast yeah yeah because they say like, I do. I do. Yeah, you have to keep saying that. You have to keep reiterating that you're married. You have to renew your vow before you bang. That's the rule. That is, or else Christ will be upset.

As God intended it. Wow, that's just a bunch of, I like how everyone who's not married is on this podcast and all the other people who are in this room are married. Wow. That's true. What's up with that? Yeah, what's up with that, guys? CC, Kevin, Ryan, all hitched. They're just throwing all this judgment

at us. Wow, you had to get married and not be famous. Isn't that crazy? What was the third? Because there was like three drama-related things on the internet this past week. What was the third one? You want to get it? All right, yeah, we can get into that.

Tfue and FaZe Clan. Oh, yeah. I don't know anything. Oh, yeah, I don't know anything about this. So this is like legal drama. Yeah. Well, it's like legal and bro dramas. Oh, bro.

Yeah, because if you know anything about the eSports community, a lot of bros. Interesting. You know what I mean, bro? Law and order. Bro squad. For sure, bro. So, yeah, there's this guy. He's one of the top streamers around.

He plays a lot of Fortnite. Oh, hell no. And his name is Tfue. Yep. It's a cute name. Shane is dabbing. I dabbed. I'm dabbing.

He joined. I'm sorry. I'm disgusting. You did that on purpose. You did that on purpose. It was originally going to be a small burp, but then the rest was like, surprise, I'm coming. It's okay.

We're going to cut that out. People don't like burp noises on a podcast. They just don't. On our podcast? They want to see it, but they don't want to hear it. All right. So there's this very longstanding esports team called FaZe Clan. I think they got started in like Call of Duty stuff.

Cool. Sick, bro Duty stuff. Cool. Sick, bro. Yeah, yeah. And it's like if you – I'm trying to explain, like, if you were to check out FaZe Clan, the kind of guys you would see. Because, you know, because you have this idea of what a gamer looks like, like a pro gamer. You kind of get that sort of thought in your head. But these guys, like, they all kind of remind me of, like, like a pro gamer. You kind of get that sort of thought in your head.

But these guys, like, they all kind of remind me of, like, dudes that never left college. Like go to Warped Tour. Interesting. They're total bros, you know what I mean? Well, gamers come in so many different forms, man. It's way different cultures. If you're playing JRPGs, you are a completely different person than if you're playing Call of Duty. Or like League of Legends. League of Legends

and Fortnite are completely different types of gamers. This is true. Very different types. This is true. FaZe Clan very successful. Obviously the top streamers that are playing Fortnite are making a shit ton of money. Like dollars on

dollars. Like five dollars. Yeah. So many dollars. So this Tf Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. They're making so many dollars. So this Tfue guy joins, I think he joined maybe a year ago, maybe longer than that. But anyway, he clearly wants out of his contract and he claims that the contract is extremely predatory. So he urged FaZe to release the contract and they were going to, then it leaked on its own, where they claim that in the contract, brand deals brought in by FaZe Clan.

FaZe keeps 80%. Whoa. In-game sticker slash merchandise, FaZe takes 50. Brand deals brought in by the gamer. So if an advertiser comes to Tfue and says, hey, will you put G Fuel in your videos, in your stream? And he says, sure. FaZe gets 50% of that. Whoa.

Appearance fees, 50%. Oh, my God. Why would he sign on to this? And prize money, FaZe can get 20% of that. And this is the issue. So obviously when he first signed this contract, he was a very small streamer. And I'm sure the idea of any sort of substantial money sounded great. But I'm sure he also didn't expect to be pulling in millions of dollars a

year. So I'm sure he's kind of signed on it. And, and phase says that they only collected $60,000 of whatever deal they had with him, but they're clear. They clearly could be entitled to more. And then like he said that they,

they offered to change the contract earlier and offered him a million dollars as like a make good. And he turned that down. What? Yeah. So like, if this is weird. Yeah.

So you can imagine they're making so much money that, that phase is like, here, here's just the, here's a million dollars. Just please like sign a normal contract. But this is the, here, here's a million dollars. Just please sign a normal contract. It's almost like a settlement. Yeah.

A little bit. Like, hey, here's a million dollars. Just please, I don't know. Obviously, I think Faze realizes how predatory this contract is as well. And Faze came out with the sort of video today, and they blamed former management on making these contracts. I'm like, look, you're running this company.

You know what these contracts, you know what's in these contracts. And you just said like, well, yeah, I mean, like, look, you know, FaZe is gonna, he was not a popular streamer. He was brought into FaZe and was pumped up by the other FaZe Clan people in the streams and he became a big streamer. So you could into FaZe and was pumped up by the other FaZe Clan people in the streams

and he became a big streamer. So you could say that FaZe should be entitled to some of that money. But it's not, he's doing it on his own channels. It's not like there's a FaZe channel that he's getting famous on. It's his own Twitch channel that he's

on. It's kind of like corporate indentured servitude in a weird way of like, hey, we'll make you famous, but then you owe us for years and you owe us everything. Right, but it's more like if you were a movie star and say Paramount

was like, okay, you're going to be in our movies and we're going to take this amount of money, whatever. But this is like if he were running his own movie studio and Paramount's like, yeah, yeah, we'll mention your movie. You know what I mean? Like he's, he's doing all the work and they're taking all that. So it's, it's a little weird. They're advertisers for him. In a sense. Yeah. I mean, and they're, and they're probably bringing in some brand deals, but they're taking an insane amount. He signed that contract just to get known. I think so, yeah.

And I mean, look, when you promise, when you show a kid six figures, they're gonna go, holy crap, yes, tell me where to sign. They don't realize, and obviously he had no way of knowing that he would be making millions of dollars a year. So this is just one of those issues where if you don't hire a lawyer to look at any kind of contract, you can really get fudged over. Because there's no way, there's no way if this guy brought this contract to any lawyer, he'd go, what the fuck are you thinking?

Like, so. But contracts in Hollywood are just garbage in general. I mean, this. Well, this contract's probably illegal. Oh, is it that bad? Yeah, that's probably why they offered him money. Like the labor... Those percentages are... Yeah, like the... Oh, is it over...

Yeah, there's probably a lot of guidelines that I'm not aware of. My favorite thing, though, is the tweet that Faye's sent to Tfue. Yeah. He goes, he says, I think the wording is, listen, you fuck,

I still love you to death, bro. Come like, let's talk. You bring whoever you want and I'll go alone. And someone retweeted that and was like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you should do in any legal situation is face all of his lawyers by yourself. Yeah, that was Faze Banks he's been very vocal he's one of the guys that started Faze I believe yeah

and well he's the owner of Faze Faze Clan that makes sense and it's just like he just keeps tweeting I'm like dude

stop stop it yeah he's had a lot of stuff in the past that he like sure gets a lot of controversy for of course and it's

because it's people who just get very emotional and heated and use social media as an outlet yeah and i get it like there's obviously a lot of people coming after him and i and i understand his his that he feels the need to defend himself but it's just like the more you're saying like there is somebody posted a a gif in response to like his posts and it's like, uh, Tfue's lawyers. And it's that shot of Jack Nicholson, like grinning and nodding.

Oh, of course. Cause it's like, he's just saying all this stuff. I'm like, dude, just like dig yourself a grave, leave,

leave this to the lawyers. It'll all just kind of smooth out. God, like always lawyer up in those situations, man. The class is not going to save you. Yeah. And there's also a theory that Tfue is maybe starting his own org. Ooh.

So he's maybe using this as a way to be like, I'm standing up for the gamers. We got to do what's right. And we got to make things right. I'm going to do it the right way. So come on over to Tfue Clan. My contract only takes 70%, not 80. So Courtney, it's Gemini season. What does that mean? I don't know. I think it just means that the planets are aligned to be Gemini, but

I feel like people are saying that I'm more powerful. I'm a Gemini, guys. Did you know? The planet is more gemini or gemini's have more power gemini's have more power during this month i but that i could be wrong i just been people have been like oh it's gemini season i was like oh i didn't know this was a thing until this year that people were like oh it's every season it's virgo season it's so it's apparently currently gemini season um it was really weird because one morning, a couple, like a little bit ago, I woke up and I was just feeling like super

empowered, like extremely empowered. I was like, you know what? I'm going to dress up today. I feel good. I'm going to kill it today. I'm taking on the world. I was like, why do I feel so powerful? You know, it could be Gemini season or it could be a manic episode.

Or... Well, I went on Twitter and they're like, guys, today's Gemini season's starting. And I was like, whoa, maybe that's why I felt so powerful today. But I don't know. Have you never felt powerful at all? Courtney, have you been smoking crack again?

You know, maybe that bubble in my floor is just meth being cooked under my flooring. Just smoking meth. It must be Gemini season because I feel great. Woo! Yeah, I don't know. Literally this year I just started hearing about seasons. And since it's my season, I'm like, all right.

Gemini is the name of your crack rock. You know what? I think it's fine to celebrate everything. And if you want to celebrate Gemini season, you go ahead. But I think, I feel like it, maybe there is something to it because I hate Virgo season. I guess September, I hate, I hate that month. Even though it's my month, I just, I'm like, it's a lame month. Would you like someone to wake you up when September ends?

Get out. Oh, damn. Even just saying that got copyrighted. Way to go. Watch out. I'm super powerful right now, so don't threaten me. Did you do anything that day that was very powerful? Did you just feel powerful? Wore boots. Wow. Holy crap. What did I wear that day?

Look out. I don't know. It was just that morning. I was just sitting doing makeup, and I was like, man, I feel really powerful. Did you wear more pins than normal? I don't think I wore any pins. I was like, I don't need these pins for confidence. I have it.

Whoa. The pins are a defense mechanism. Yeah. The pins are my insecurities. I wear a lot of pins. I actually had a little hard time this morning because I had a specific set of pins I wanted to wear to match the red on my pants. Nice. I was like, okay, so I need these red pins. And I was putting them all on one jacket.

And I finally got them all on, took off all the other ones. And I was like leaving and I saw this other jean jacket. I was like, ooh, that one's really cute. Took all the pins off the one I was wearing. I had to put them and place them all artfully, nicely on that one. I was like, wait, I can't wear this jacket because it's black. Because that blends in with the podcast wall. So I have to put them all back.

All these pins back. Pin problems. Am I right, boys? Son of a bitch. Pins are hard. Yeah, pins are real tough. Man. Screw you, Shane. pins are hard yeah pins are real tough screw you Shane meanwhile Shane just shows up

in the same shirt just a different color this is actually a brand new shirt I bought this shirt this week I'm not kidding it's a nice green I actually like it I actually do like that color I was going to wear a tie dye shirt today I bought a tie dye shirt for the first time in my life.

Whoa. And then I was like, you know what? I'm not feeling powerful enough to rock this today. I was like, someone's going to make fun of me and it's going to destroy me. Tie-dye's coming back, man. Maybe in Virgo season you can wear it. No, Virgo season I'm just going to wear a cloak all month and hide away and be like, don't look at me.

It's Virgo season. It's Virgo season. I need to go organize some thingsgo season. I need to go organize some things. I need to organize. Light some scented candles and read a book. Watch Ally McBeal. I'm going to watch Ally McBeal.

All Virgos watch Ally McBeal on repeat. Ew. You Geminis wouldn't understand. Going further into my cave. An old TV in the back just playing Ally McBeal. Yes, do it, Ally.

Do it. Yes, you litigate. People listening love this. I know you're all Ally McBeal fans. Oh, God. So I figured I'd end this podcast with some funny news. Woo! Uh-oh.

So Moby came out with a book or something. Nice. Came out with a book. Call Me Ishmael. I've read it. Nice. I like that. Oh, man. That was a good one. That was a good one. I don't get that. I've read it. Nice. I like that. Oh, man.

That was a good one. That was a good one. I don't get that reference. I like the Moby Dick. You don't get it. Moby Dick. That's the first sentence. Herman Melville.

Call Me Ishmael. Sorry, what? Oh, my God. I have actually read that book, and I don't recommend it. So he wrote a book, I guess, and in it he talked about his relationship with Natalie Portman, the famous actress. And rapper. You may have seen her in things like

Leon the Professional. Star Wars. Phantom Menace. Phantom Menace, yes. Black Swan. Darjeeling Limited. Is she in Darjeeling Limited? No. Yep. Right at the beginning. Haha. I threw a beginning. Ha ha. I threw a deep one in there.

Oh, that's my favorite. Like one of my favorite movies. Wow. Well, clearly not. Leon the Professional, also one of my favorites. Leon the Professional is incredible. Dude, Leon the Professional is so dope. It's so good.

That was on the list of movies you gave me when I first started. That movie's so freaking dope. Natalie Portman's in a lot of hits, man. We could probably list movies. She's a great actress. She's a lot of things. She's one of the best. One of those things, though, is someone who has not dated Moby.

Yeah, so Moby claimed that they dated, right? Yes. And she was just like, no. Yes. What? So. Can you imagine if I just, like, tweeted being like, you know, my relationship with Olivia Wilde five years ago is crazy, but, you know, it was short-lived. Yeah.

I just said stuff. And I saw this photo. I saw this photo of Moby with, like, his arm around Natalie. And she's, like, laughing, but it's,'s like the sort of girl laugh, like I'm really uncomfortable, but if I say something, I might get my neck snapped. Oh, my God. It's kind of like a ha, ha, ha, ha kind of laugh.

So apparently she claims they never dated. Jesus. And he's like, look, I understand. Guy looking like me, you wouldn't want to admit that you dated me. And that was his response so he's clearly convinced that they had dated she's like we never said we had never dated and then like and then there was this this woman that tweeted about it she's like i've been in these situations before where like i just went along with with like this guy thinking that he dated me

for this period of time and I was like, that's crazy. And then I looked at all the responses, I looked at all the responses and there were so many other women that said the same exact thing. Where, yeah, the guy's, he just really likes, he has feelings for, or just like one person has way more feelings for the other person

and it's not reciprocated like that. It happens. And then they go on thinking that there was something that maybe wasn't a mutual thing. But to go like to be in like all these situations and not say like. With the same weight. All those women had it with him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're saying that guys.

Just guys in general. Just guys in general being like thinking that they're dating and then telling people. It's both genders for any gender. That's so weird. That happens. That's so weird. Maybe they just hung out. How can you be so convinced?

And then he just thought it was a date. But I don't know. That's so weird. Or he's just blatantly lying for clout. Yeah, trying to make his book more relevant. But it is a weird thing to make up too because it looks weird on him. Oh my god. It's like, yeah, he was in his 30s and she was barely 18 and he's like, yeah,

we dated. Yeah, I think in the words of Eminem, Moby, you're too old, let go. Doesn't he say that in that song? It's something like that. Nobody listens to techno, let's go. Yeah. Oh man, Eminem ahead of his time ripping on Moby. Yeah, it's rough. Have you guys. Oh, man, Eminem ahead of his time ripping on Moby.

Yeah, it's rough. Have you guys ever had that? Like where someone is way more emotionally invested in something than you? Well, it's less that. But that's fine if someone has feelings for someone. But to claim that they dated if they clearly didn't, what were the signs that he was thinking that? I don't know, man.

I mean, like I figured it's a pretty understood social contract that you have with somebody if you're dating or you're not. And you go on dates, and it sounds like they didn't go on any dates. You go on dates, you get a little smooch, smooch, maybe a little more than that. But, I mean, then I would assume it's – then you would both understand that you're dating. Yeah. Did he just, like, have her arm around her sometimes? And he's like, ah, my girlfriend. Honestly, it sounds like it, and that's not so great.

Have you ever been in anything like that, Courtney? Yeah. I mean, I feel like I'm in a – I've had – well, yeah, yes. I was going to bring up this story where I think a guy thinks I was super in, like, thinking that we were dating. And he, like, avoids me now because he thinks I'm, like, in love with him or something. Oh, weird. Yeah, where, like, we hooked up. And then, like, he acted like we were going to keep hanging out. And I was like, okay.

Like, I was literally, like, he acted like we were going to keep hanging out. And I was like, okay. Like, I was literally, like, freshly single. I wasn't, like, obviously trying to have anything at that time. It was a birthday hookup. That's all it was to me. Yeah. And. It was Gemini season. It was.

It really was. And I needed this. Was it Gemini season? Yeah. It was my birthday. When's your birthday? Gemini season. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was my birthday. When's your birthday? Gemini season. Oh yeah. Yeah. I forgot.

I forgot we no longer go by months or days. I'm so red. We just go by... Moons. Yeah. Gemini season once again very different from Virgo season. This is my moon. Because Virgo season I'm like don't talk to me on my penis ever again. We're gonna go watch Ally McBeal. Me and my wiener.

However, my penis is going to go watch Grey's Anatomy. Sandra Oh. He just loves Sandra Oh. Killing Eve is great. Killing Eve is great. Sandra Oh is actually fantastic in that show. I'm enjoying season two less.

Oh my gosh, I'm behind on it. I'm so behind. I've only watched the season premiere. That's what it's called. Sandra Oh's great in it, though. I'm very hooked on all the shows that I was watching outside of Game of Thrones, because after Game of Thrones just broke my heart. Yeah, it's really sad. I'm now like, wow, I

really love what we do in the shadows in Killing Eve and attack on Titan. And Barry. And Barry. Yeah. One Punch Man's back. It's great. It's getting better, I feel.

Animation's still not as OP as the first season was, but enjoying it. Do you guys think Game of Thrones would have been a good anime? I've been meaning to ask you that. I think a lot of things would be a good anime, but you know what I really want? Wait, sorry, did we finish your story? I mean, it was kind of open-ended, but it's like

it's just a thing that happened. I've been through that a couple times where when I'm newly single, I slang dong a little bit. There wasn't actual slanging of anything, but I get a little smooch smooch. Yeah, I witnessed some of that.

Can I mention that? Oh my God. I didn't think we had enough time left. It doesn't take that long to explain what I witnessed. Can I explain it? And then you can say what it looked like from far away. Yeah, sure. Okay.

It was my birthday party. I was newly single, unhappy, but also happy because it was my birthday. And I was there. So you were super happy. Oh yeah. It was my birthday party. I was newly single, unhappy, but also happy because it was my birthday. And I was there, so you were super happy. Oh, yeah. It was a nice party. I'm really glad a lot of people came. I was very surprised, except for you. Oh, Shane, you weren't there.

Where was I? In your face. Watching Ally McBeal with my wiener. So explain it, Courtney. Yeah, so it was my birthday, and I was wanting to have fun, you know? Jesus, can I take that back? It's my birthday.

There was this guy there that I had known for a while, and we had kind of a little bit of history. Like your tongues had history maybe okay maybe but um he was there and I like I wasn't like super I didn't expect this to happen right where I was like I just decided like oh yeah like this could be like a thing and so we were sitting on these lawn chairs in my backyard and like i leaned over and smooched him and i don't think and i think i've done this a couple times where like i don't realize like how public we are when i kiss a guy and I enjoyed it very much. What did you see?

Well, what I saw, and mind you, this was a party that you started at probably noon. Noon, yeah. It was supposed to be like a day thing. And there was alcohol involved. Everyone was legal drinking age. That's why I didn't go. I don't support legal.

Never mind. Trying to think of a joke. It was just dumb. Ally McBeal, we'll go back to that good joke. So I arrived to the party around maybe eight or six. So everyone was several drinks in. Yeah. And so I was just chilling, you know, just chilling.

Had a drink here, had a drink there. Just kind of just being a dude, just talking to people, talking to Christine Sidelko, who's a very funny lady. And I look over, and this is around like maybe like, this is around, this getting into like the shitty hour where like if you started if you started drinking at noon and you kept a steady stream of alcohol into your system for eight hours you get into what i refer to as the shitty hour which is where your body just starts to just kind of like,

you know, I actually don't think I've heard this. So I'm really scared. So what I saw was just, was just a sloppy mess. Hey, I'm allowed to be sloppy. It's my birthday.

It's Gemini season, you bitch. I'm empowered right now. Because. I have the power crystals. And it's Gemini season. Because if you guys were listening, they were in separate lawn chairs. Yeah, we were in separate lawn chairs.

And I. And Courtney decided to, like, the way that they were going to, to like make out was they were going to stay in their lawn chairs but like lean over to each other to make out i leaned in and i kissed him from my lawn chair to his respective lawn chair it's a bold play and then i decided to level up and uh we were going to share a lawn chair but But the whole transition was very awkward because there was some alcohol, so bodily functions not quite as – So you're shitting yourself. Yeah. You're shitting yourself.

No, but I don't really recall the leveling up part, but mainly just the leaning over and the chair is kind of sideways. The legs on the left side are just kind of sticking up. Good. That's how I like it. And you were kind of like just kind of like half like on him and the chair was like sideways. Courtney thought this was a cute moment up until right now. No, I knew it wasn't. She's finding out that it wasn't.

I knew it wasn't cute, but I just, you know. I'm sure in her mind it was that. Like to leave some stuff to the imagination of the viewers. I'll say that regardless of how romantic it was or wasn't. It wasn't romantic at all. I just want him to smooch and go. That's it. Right.

Makeouts are never going to look good from the third person. It's always like that. No, never, never. It's weird. The lawn chair makeout, I was like, I looked over, I was like, and then I tried not to watch because that would be creepy. But then, yeah, that's right. You did.

Then you moved over onto the lawn chair, which is not a two-person lawn chair. No. Right? They never are. Yeah. That just looked very uncomfortable. I'm sure it was, but it's Gemini season, so I was impervious. Guys, it was my birthday.

I'm allowed to hoe it out. You're allowed? Oh, we never said you're not allowed. I wouldn't say you were hoeing it out. No, not at all. Look, you did the Terminator thing. You scanned the room, you found your target, and you locked on. Target acquired.

Going to smooch. And he was very nice. And damn it, Courtney, I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you locked on. Turn it. I did. Ignore it. Going to smooch. And he was very nice. And damn it, Courtney, I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you, too. You know, you got what you were trying to get. Yeah. And you got it.

That was my quick little rebound. So a fist pound. Thank you. Thank you, guys. We could cut that whole thing out if you want us to. I don't know. I can't decide. I feel like there's some parts that I'm like, goo, but.

Oh, the whole thing is a goo. I don't think we should cut this whole podcast. It's pretty rough, honestly. But maybe, Courtney, just in case as a backup, let's tell your side of the story. What happened? He made some weird commitments that he was like, we're going to hang out again. I was like, okay, dude. Because after it happened, I was just like like this is fine like i don't need this

doesn't need to continue if you don't want but he's like no we totally will continue but then future events he like started to like really awkwardly avoid me as if like i was this clingy girl but like i literally like left him alone but like at future stuff that i see him at he's like super uncomfortable around me so that sucks i feel like he thinks that i was like super invested in that night when i wasn't at all it was just my birthday but it was gemini season and it was gemini season yeah i think that's what we can really draw from this talk is that it's gemini when Gemini season happens, Courtney throws down.

Yeah, man. Watch out. She just... Watch out. I will follow a lead. Yes. She'll follow a lead and she will kiss it. Kiss that lead.

And right now, the caterpillar from Bugs Life is the top lead. Oh, hell yeah. I don't know where that came from in my brain, but... Real weird, but top lead. Oh, hell yeah. I don't know where that came from in my brain, but. Real weird, but like down. No, Courtney's lead is Childish Gambino's titties.

Yeah. I love Childish Gambino. Titty Childish Gambino is the best Childish Gambino. And on that note, I think it's about time I wrapped up this podcast. So thank you guys so much for coming on. Thank you. And thank you guys for listening or watching the Smoshcast. If you're not yet subscribed on the YouTube channel,

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