Smosh Mouth - S1: #33 - Does Keith Resent Ian?

Episode Date: October 2, 2019

Ian, Keith, and Noah talk about adapting to their new roles at Smosh, coping with depression, and why Keith resented Ian for the longest time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/ad...choices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 it the day out, but apparently this guy was from Florida. So I was fucked. I was fucked. I got man titties and my dick don't work no more. I don't like that. Say it like that. Is that better? That's good. What if I whisper it?
Starting point is 00:00:54 I got man titties and my dick don't work no more. Look we don't know what we're doing. That's the beauty and problem with YouTube. Nobody knows what's going on. We're all just adapting. I think I might be more depressed than I've ever been. And I beat myself up when I'm alone and everything. And I'm like, I'm fighting.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Just honestly, like, fighting for my life. Oh my god. Keith, what are you doing? Ah! Ah! Yep, that was good for everyone to hear. Welcome, everybody, to the 30-second podcast, Smoshcast podcast. Did you say 30 seconds?
Starting point is 00:01:33 Yeah. Wow. So we're doing this in 30 seconds? Yep, the 30-second podcast. Get everything you want out right now, Keith. Okay, can I just start by saying, like, with Michael Jackson, can we just go straight into it? Let's see. You got 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:01:44 30 seconds to talk about Michael. I just want to say that. You got 30 seconds. 30 seconds to talk about Michael. I just want to say. I'll give you more time to talk about Michael. Okay. I didn't even say who is here. Who's here today? Oh, Noah. Noah Grossman.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And Olivia Sway. Hi, Olivia Sway. You look different. Yeah. Hell yeah. We switched it up. I know you're eager to redeem yourself from the last time you were here. What do you mean redeem myself?
Starting point is 00:02:11 I don't know. I'm not sure. What was the public response to the last time that it's redemption? I have no idea. It was just ugly all around. Yeah, I thought as someone who was here the whole time, I thought it was really fun. It was. This isn't a fun situation, guys.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I mean, this is entertainment for you guys, but this is serious. Michael Jackson is dead, but he's turning over in his grave. Y'all got to realize. First of all, let's just say I just wanted to start out by saying if you guys heard about the leaving Neverland or whatever, it was complete bullshit. The Michael Jackson estate just won a legal battle with HBO and I am here like I mean come on guys like some of just the the cracks in the case the
Starting point is 00:02:54 cracks well the case it wasn't even a case the cracks in the documentary I mean it was just bullshit and I'm just glad that the Jackson estate are like getting their money and, you know, they're just due because to, you know, I just, I know that guy's just turning over. That's so bad. You came, you came ready to fire. Oh, for sure. For Michael Jackson. Do y'all understand who he is to me?
Starting point is 00:03:17 I don't know who he is. I understand who he is to you. What is, who is Michael Jackson to me, Noah? Please tell me. Um, so Keith would only ever draw two people his entire life and Keith is a great artist. He would draw himself and he would draw Michael Jackson to me, Noah? Please tell me. So Keith would only ever draw two people his entire life, and Keith is a great artist. He would draw himself, and he would draw Michael Jackson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Maybe there were others here and there, but I have heard him repeatedly tell me that and do it. Like, I've watched you draw for the last five years, and you either draw yourself or Michael Jackson. True, and I send you pictures of Michael Jackson here and there, which is, like, I am, I am beyond a fan. I am like a crazy person. You're a defender.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yes, for sure. I'll defend you. Thank you. Yeah, I'll defend you. Thank you. I'll defend all y'all in here. All y'all in here, I will defend y'all. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:59 At all costs, maybe. So, yeah, it's very clear. You're a fan of Michael Jackson nah you love him no this is this is too uh oh
Starting point is 00:04:10 okay I'm not saying okay what's gonna come yeah I wouldn't yeah it's well cause I was trying to think
Starting point is 00:04:16 I was trying to think of a I was trying to think of a scenario of how far would your love for Michael Jackson go
Starting point is 00:04:22 oh okay cause I was thinking Michael Jackson to you is like a god, right? I wouldn't say he's a god. I'm just, I really appreciate his work. Okay. I like it a lot. Like a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Like, yeah, maybe. But like, I don't want to say that. But yeah, maybe. I guess. When you, yeah, yes. That was the best. I had to just go through the whole, okay, where do I spend my time? Who do I think about?
Starting point is 00:04:51 That is definitely a godlike figure. So they sued HBO for, like, tarnishing his name or whatever? Pretty much. Something like that. I don't know the logistics. They sued HBO because when he did in the 90s a concert on HBO
Starting point is 00:05:12 in the contract, it said, you can never disparage Michael Jackson. Somebody that's up to creepy shit has that contract set up. Someone who's not doesn't worry about that. Oh no. You should get on this. should get on you know i should start i should start putting i should start putting contracts in like if you come into this building you can't ever disparage me see but that's the thing like
Starting point is 00:05:35 michael jackson was that big like he could like he was coming up with the contracts like the way i feel like a lot of companies they come up with them for you i feel feel like he comes to you like, yo, this is what it is. This is how we going to work. I don't disagree. But I will say like when we worked at Defy, like that was in my Defy contract. That was like a non-negotiable section in the Defy contract that you couldn't disparage the company that you work for. See, he doesn't want to hide too. No, I mean, Defy definitely had stuff to hide, and they hid it from all of us.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But my point is that it's definitely shady, and it's shady, and a lot of people do that shady shit. But it's not shady. That's the thing. I think Justin Bieber, I think they do something similar. Everybody does that, guys. If you go to meet him, they take away your phone. You have to sign a contract so you can't talk about anything that happened here. It's Justin Bieber. Okay, for example, Olivia was with her friend at like somewhere and Justin Bieber, they were
Starting point is 00:06:28 all at a table together. Olivia is always in the end circle. I don't know how she gets there, but like, I just want to go to like a dinner with her. She went to like some meeting and her friend was there with her. Justin Bieber happened to be at the table and they're all just like sitting, talking, you know, she's like, he's a really nice guy. He's chilling. You could tell he's trying to have a good time this was like a few years ago
Starting point is 00:06:47 one of her like friends not really her friend but somebody that she knows tried to take a picture and the flash went off y'all oh my god the flash went off amateur oh like terrible but Justin Bieber's like yeah like good job like yeah
Starting point is 00:07:03 don't do that it's just, isn't that sickening? But, like, come on. Like, I mean, if you were around people and people want something out of you all the time, like, I would put that to you in, like, some contracts. I mean, a lot of rich people don't have sex without a contract. Whoa. I thought I'd put that in just because. I've heard about rich people having, like, beauty contracts for their wives that if they get fat, they are not entitled to any money if they get divorced.
Starting point is 00:07:34 That's just a misogynist. That's a rude human being. I mean, I'd imagine when you're that level of a disgusting kind of like billionaire guy, you probably view everything as an object. See, but I would hope that a contract is mutually to some degree. So like in that, her exit clause would have to be like, if you get man titties and your dick don't work no more, I get to leave with the money.
Starting point is 00:07:59 You know, like that's how it would work. Please not say man titties and dick don't work no more together. I got man titties and my dick don't work no more. I don't like that. Say it like that. Is that better? it would work. Please not say man titties and dick don't work no more together. I got man titties and my dick don't work no more. I don't like that. Say it like that. Is that better? That's good.
Starting point is 00:08:09 What if I whisper it? Just don't. Dick ASMR or whatever. I got man titties and my dick don't work no more. That one's worse because it's like
Starting point is 00:08:19 how did they get so close without me realizing? I'm going to make that my dating profile. Man titties and dick don't work no more. That might actually work for you. People think you're just being super funny
Starting point is 00:08:31 until they get in the bedroom with you and they're like, oh, you're really honest. Yeah. Hold on, but back to what you said. You said like rich men. I know someone that I just met when I was in New York. I took a trip to New York recently, like, a few months ago. And I had to do some work out there.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I ended up hanging out with my friends for, like, longer than I actually had to work. I just said, yo. I told my team, I said, yo, can I fly out, like, at, you know, like, a week later than what I'm supposed to? Yeah. I had some of the best time in my life. Like, some just, like, just awakening. Just, like, I started, I had a stylist my homeboy Matthew he styles me now and he just like started like giving me some like great clothes and stuff and like
Starting point is 00:09:11 address how I feel right now but to go back into what you were saying this one guy not a rich guy black guy he's dating this uh this white lady they live in Seattle or whatever I don't want to put too much out there but uh pretty much met him like really great person but we all started started talking about prenups and just different things and he honestly kind of said that like if you know like in the prenup like why shouldn't it be a point a point to not have your like your girl like gain weight if she gains weight like it can be over and you don't have to like pay I'm like whoa like this is where your mind is bro like is this serious and like everybody started getting heated and you know like people started using the word policing women and that is not like just the police you know that's such it got to the point he was like but who am i not the police i said okay
Starting point is 00:09:58 brother do you like the police okay the word police just does not sound good for this situation. Nobody should be policing their woman, their man, their anything. Like it was sickening. It was a sickening conversation. But the guy was actually really cool. But he wasn't rich. I think he's like work. I don't want to say where he's working, but he's doing really good things.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. Interesting. He's got levels that I would argue are like actually insane. That's an insane opinion. That's an opinion of someone who is not applying to others what they apply to themselves. I think that's the thing. It's got to be mutually agreed upon. So I could understand that if it also applies to you as well.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Because I think it comes down to taking care of yourself. If we're talking about, okay yeah you put on weight i mean everybody's you know metabolism slows down or hey you might get injured or hey yeah you know you might go through some kind of illness and you put on weight whatever but if it's just like a sheer fact that you just like aren't trying then i mean that's that's also just like a character thing yeah but that's already grounds to not be with someone is cause like, Oh, we're going in different directions. Like that is actually insane to like even put something like a contract with terms like that above someone's head.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Cause that's not a relationship. That's immediately like a fucking teacher and a student and there's some homework. And not only that, women gain so much weight, like after like having a baby too, you know, and it's just like, it's difficult. Like I've seen like certain friends, like they just messed up. It's so much weight after having a baby, too. For sure. And it's just difficult. I've seen certain friends. That's also just messed up, bro. It's so messed up. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Don't put women in that position. Do not. Can you imagine? He's like, oh, you're two pounds. You're almost two pounds there. You better hurry up. I don't think he would police that much. But he's definitely watching.
Starting point is 00:11:42 But he'll definitely write the contract to those terms. He's like the cool police that every now and again he like writes a ticket he's like okay i'm gonna let you off this time but next time you know i'm saying like we're gonna have to deal with some like we might go to the to the courthouse and get a divorce that happened to me on christmas got a divorce no not a divorce me me getting passed on a ticket oh really happened to me on christmas eve yeah it's so great know what? That must be so great to be white and drive and get left.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You want to know what happened? So it was Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, or no, it was the 23rd and it was going, it was the morning of the 24th and my girlfriend and I were going somewhere with family
Starting point is 00:12:16 and she needed a dress but she had forgot it so I had to drive her to her apartment. Got you. And I'd come back from set pretty late. I took a nap
Starting point is 00:12:22 and then we drove but I was still super tired. It was probably like 3 a.m. when I was going. And I was like, all right, I just want to go and come back. So the speed limit's 65. I'm probably going like 72. And so a cop pulled me over and he pulled me over. And he was like, all right, have you had anything to drink?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like, why are you out this late? And I'm like, no, I just need to get my girlfriend's dress. What if he would have said yes? Yes, officer. Yes, officer, you called me red-handed. No, but he was like, I'm still going to have you step out and do a sobriety test. And I was like, okay. Like, there's no problems.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I'm going to pass it. But I was so nervous that I wasn't going to pass it. See, that's the thing. Everybody's nervous in those situations. And they also try to make you not pass it. Like, one guy had me following his finger while the other guy had a flashlight in my eyes going in and out and in and out. And I was like, before I even started, I was like, I am scared. And they were like, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Just do what we tell you. But in the end, it was all okay. I passed. They didn't give me a ticket. Were they nice to you at least? Yeah. I mean, I would say. Intimidating for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yes. They were. Yes. They did not frighten me more than they did with their presence. If that makes sense. That was it. That should not be the vibe. Well, I i mean i think it is because they have guns and also if you know they wanted to they could take my car away by like being like oh you're too tired or like oh
Starting point is 00:13:34 you didn't walk this line right like you can't you have to step out of your vehicle you are one clumsy mother shut your mouth so like like you probably would do better drunk. Yes. Don't say that. Don't do it but like he probably would. He probably would. I did that here this morning. I always feel guilty about things for no reason. Like I remember like back when
Starting point is 00:13:59 I was like a few years after turning 21 every time I was asked for my ID like when I was buying alcohol I was always like nervous. I was like a few years after turning 21, every time I was asked for my ID, like when I was buying alcohol, I was always like nervous. I was always like afraid that I was like looking guilty, like it was a fake ID. And I never used a fake ID. Like I never tried to buy alcohol before I was 21. I turned 21 and, you know, was buying alcohol.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And every time I'd give them my ID and I'd be like a little nervous that they're going to like bust me. Oh, good Lord. So I feel like I'm in the my ID and I'd be like a little nervous that they're going to like bust me. Oh, good Lord. So I feel like I'm in the same situation if I was ever pulled out for a sobriety test. Like you honestly, like on a scale of one to 10, how bad do you, how bad would you feel? What? Like just like buying alcohol, like when you were 21. Oh, I was just nervous.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah. I don't know why. Cause I just thought like somehow they would think it was a fake ID or something. Oh my God. I don't know why because I just thought somehow they would think it was a fake ID or something I could not wait to turn 21 and use my ID I'm like yo look at this I'm 21 bitch I can drink
Starting point is 00:14:56 not outside though I'll get in trouble I've gotten called out for a fake ID before really? yeah I was I was using a fake ID and it said that I was from Florida. Oh my God, I can't believe you just said that.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Well, yeah, I'm of legal age to do everything now, I guess, that you can legally do. But at the time, I had a fake ID. At this specific time, I guess I won't mention the time.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Now you're making me feel nervous. You're making me feel nervous because I knew you had one. Yeah, I did. You are putting me in the hot seat right now. He did not have a fake ID and I did not know. Sorry. Anyway, so I was buying alcohol from a liquor store.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And the guy, and I'm 20, by the way. I was 20 at the time. Oh, okay. So you were almost. Yeah, I was almost 21. He called me out and he asked me for my address where I was from Florida. And for some reason, I had just memorized it the day of. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:48 This would be weird if like for some reason this guy asked me. So I memorized it enough where like I passed. But I probably didn't look like I know. But apparently this guy was from Florida. So I was fucked. I was fucked. Were you in Hollywood? No, I wasn't in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:16:03 This was in the Valley. He's like, what's the weather like in March? No, I wasn't in Hollywood. This was in the Valley. He's like, what's the weather like in March? No, even worse. He was like, if I'm going from, what was it? Is Destin a place? I feel like he said Destin. He was like, if I'm going from Destin to Tampa, which interstate will I take? What an asshole.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You should have said, I don't drive. I was saying you were a driver on there too. Yes, it did. I get that a lot. Because he was asking me. That's so funny. Because the first defense is he asked me why I have a Florida ID if I'm in California. And I said, oh, I'm out here for school.
Starting point is 00:16:34 He was a damn police. But I still have my other ID, some shit like that. And he was like, okay, so what interstate do you take if you're going from Desmond to Tampa? I didn't know, so I said, what did I say? I think I picked like three, something like that. I picked a very low number, because I felt like maybe the interstate started on the east coast and came out here. So I was like, maybe the numbers are
Starting point is 00:16:51 low. I don't remember what he said to me, but I think I said three, and it might have been like seven. But there was no way that I was going to guess. I think you actually got it opposite. Interstates start at the low numbers on the west coast. And they go to the high?
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah. Oh, I was so fucked. Pretty sure. That's why we have I-5. Oh. And I think Hawaii has one. Highway one. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Hawaii has the first one? No, wait. No, we have highway one. So Hawaii has highway zero. Highway negative. Hawaii has boats. Yeah, I know. So yeah, our... Sorry. Damn, I was completely the opposite. So you could have just guessed like, I don't know, Hawaii has boats yeah I know so yeah
Starting point is 00:17:25 sorry damn I was completely the opposite so you could have just guessed like I don't know 60 2000 2000
Starting point is 00:17:31 yeah 2000 that is the road I take I love that I love that you tried though yeah you're just like uh
Starting point is 00:17:40 six at this point I definitely had to it was more fun I was like I'm definitely screwed but let's do it did he take your id no okay but somebody ended up taking your id one yeah when i tried to get in what oh when i tried to get in to see jayden smith when he played at the roxy
Starting point is 00:17:55 yeah i didn't know you were going to see jayden yeah no one day so it was like his I guess his first concert off of like his new album like the new Jaden Smith it was his first concert so I bought like three tickets and yeah that was it I went there he screamed a lot on stage he did a lot of moonwalking and my ID got taken that was it and I could still go in and the worst part is I didn't know I wasn't planning on drinking
Starting point is 00:18:20 I drove but I thought it was 21 plus it was 18 plus so you got your ID taken but you got to go in I wasn't planning on drinking. I drove, but I thought it was 21 plus. It was 18 plus. Can we make this? Hold on. Can I just say this? So you got your ID taken, but you got to go in. Yeah, because it was 18 plus. Guys, can we make this a thing? I want you to meet Jaden Smith. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:18:33 I really want you to get an experience to go to his concert. What's a good hashtag for this? I don't know. I know a lot of people that know Jaden Smith. Like, that matters. Really? Jesus Christ. Yeah, you suck for saying that.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You know what? I don't want you to that I wanted to die right now Yeah, yeah, yeah, nevermind guys I was gonna come up with a hashtag I don't know what we would talk about, I feel like both of us would just kind of sit there No, it's not necessarily talk but just go to a concert or something It would be really cool
Starting point is 00:18:57 No, he went Oh, there's just a character I just got taken, it was 18 plus Why did you show the fake one? Because taken. It was 18 plus. Why did you show the fake one? Because I thought it was 21 plus. You showed a fake one to the people at the bar. No, to the people walking in.
Starting point is 00:19:16 They asked for my ID and I showed them the fake one. Why would you do that? Because I didn't know. Oh my God. You're the only person to get your ID taken and still get into the place. Yeah, seriously, because I was like, oh my God, really? And he was like, yeah, dude, I'm taking this because I was like oh my god really And he was like yeah dude I'm taking this And I can't have it back and he was like no And I was like dang so what am I going to do
Starting point is 00:19:30 And he was like still go in And I was like oh okay Did you show him the real one Yeah but it didn't matter I came in with a fake one I'm obviously He can let me in I just can't buy the alcohol. Like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:46 He doesn't care. I'm just not doing anything illegal in there. Concert without alcohol. There's some places that are incentivized to take fake IDs. They get paid. Really? By whom? I think the county.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Oh, like to take them and turn them in. I thought you meant, like, take them and let them in. Like, there was some, like, evil man. AKA snitches. Shit. That's funny so keith you've you've um you've made some changes in your life oh yeah i have actually not as much as people think uh like i've been trying to get a lot more healthy i've been trying to go on hikes because like i do have a lot more free time and i see that i am starting to gain weight. I'm 27 years old now. Don't tell nobody but God, but I'm 27 years old and weight is sticking to me like never before.
Starting point is 00:20:33 27 is the turning point. That's the final dying gasp of our metabolism. So let me just say this. So I went, I weighed myself. I didn't even know like one of my roommates has like a scale in the bathroom and I never weigh myself. I don't really, I weigh myself. I didn't even know one of my roommates has a scale in the bathroom, and I never weigh myself. I weigh myself, but not that often. And I happened to look over, and I was like, okay, let me just weigh myself. Let me see where I'm at because my weight fluctuates. You know what I'm saying? It just said up and down, up and down.
Starting point is 00:20:57 So I ended up weighing myself, and I was like 140 or 141. I can't remember. My memory is not that good anymore. And by the next week or the week after that, I want to say I was 145. And I had started hiking. I had started doing a couple push-ups. Just a few. Just a few. Like 10, 20 here.
Starting point is 00:21:18 30 if I'm feeling real nice. Nice. But I've been doing that. But to gain weight, I know it's not muscle. I know it's not muscle. Like I know it's not muscle. So like I also have to eat healthier. And I just I honestly have to like honest, like just monitor what I eat, what I do, what I drink. I can't drink beers as much.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Y'all know I love a free beer at Kitchen 24. I shouldn't have said that. You guys are going to find me there. I'm going after this. Good Lord. But like dead ass ass y'all like i i looked at the the the scale the the next two weeks or so and i like weighed 145 and that scared me because i was like yo i'm actually trying to like take you know precaution and just like you know
Starting point is 00:21:57 yeah wait this shit out yeah drinking is a big one man it's that that'll catch up for sure it caught me. It caught. I'm starting to get like on my sides right here, yo. Oh, you got the love handles? Like beyond side, my mom calls them side items. I got side items, but they also got some dents in them. And I'm like, well, damn, I ain't never had no dents.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Like potholes everywhere. They some little cute ones. It's like kind of like a beanie baby. You know how like when you touch it and it's just like the little like thingies in there that's how my side items are yeah you got something to hold on to but i've definitely been like working now i'm going hiking after this is why i'm dressed like this i'm very you know like comfortable you know i'm saying oh yeah get you a shirt oh yeah yeah you gotta get the slush cult um merch before it's all gone. The collab. It's good shit.
Starting point is 00:22:46 It's really good. This shirt's actually incredibly... This material is super nice. This is the last limited edition. Which is super dope. But the hat is awesome. It's like a straight up custom stitch. What is this called? The five panel?
Starting point is 00:23:03 It's a camp hat. I like how this turned into a commercial and it's not about me anymore. Sorry. It's okay. Get your stuff, though. Get your merch. Smosh that store. Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Back to you, Keith. But definitely just trying to watch myself. And the funny thing is people think that I'm better. Ryan was talking to Olivia recently. And he was like, yo, how's Keith? And he's asking her questions. And she's like, yo, how's Keith and he's asking her questions and she's like yo he's like healthier he seems happier and guys I am fighting so hard for my happiness
Starting point is 00:23:31 you know what I mean I like when he brought it up earlier because you know we do talk about a little bit about like what we're gonna talk about before we get here you know just to like have a understanding of where things could go and I started thinking when he asked me, I was like, yo, like, I think I might be more depressed than I've ever been. And I beat myself up when I'm alone and everything. And I'm like, I'm fighting. And I feel like, oh, like even saying that, I'm kind of getting emotional, like just honestly like fighting for my life. You know what I mean? Really?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yes, yes. And I find myself, you know know like i go to church and everything and i'm just trying to find something like i mean like i'm not here all the time you know what i mean we don't come in monday through friday i have a lot more time i'm auditioning and stuff now more so and you know like ideas it's like what makes me happy yeah like what do i enjoy like what's what what's my identity like who am I like I'm really going through it y'all like when you have like so many people watching you you have to you start to watch yourself more and to the point where you judge yourself way more than what you ever like would
Starting point is 00:24:38 have if you only had a couple people you know eyes on you but I honestly realize I am like I'm pushing through I'm persevering I take realized I am like I'm pushing through. I'm persevering. I take pride in just persevering and moving forward. But like I am doing these things and like just because I don't feel the best. You know what I mean? I don't feel 100%. I'm trying to find it.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I'm searching, y'all. I am searching. And the only way to like do i'm doing something new i used to make fun of people for hiking and now i'm like yo i see why people do it i see why people work out remember i will always say like i'm not working out for shit i'm not doing this like no it's stupid i didn't have to now my body's changing like that's one thing but like just the things that you're you're psyching you're mental like i have to do that for that like just going on the hikes i get down down, like, the first day.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Let me just start by the first day. The first day I did the hike, I had drank the day before. Just being transparent, being very transparent right now, guys. I drank the day before, and me and my homeboy from Ohio, Zach, we had the idea to go. And we had it for a week, like, a couple weeks, but I just never did it. But this time, like, I ended up waking up and I got a message from him. He said, yo, and this was like 30 minutes before we were supposed to go because I was going to bail.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Like, I was going to bail. Like, just straight up. I was like, I'm over. I shouldn't be doing this. Like, I'm dehydrated. How late were you up the night before? I want to say two or three. So, like, and then, like, but this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:03 He hit me up at 1030. So, I can, like, I can move move and like, you know, make things work. Like I'm a professional. He ended up like FaceTiming me. Like after like I seen a message, you know, I FaceTimed him. And I was like, bro, you know, hopefully that he would like be like, see my face. Like, okay. Like he doesn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But he was like, are we still doing that? I was like, yes. And I got up, I jumped up. And y'all, it was the worst decision of my life. I felt like I was going to die. I was like, yes. And I got up. I jumped up. And, y'all, it was the worst decision of my life. I felt like I was going to die. I was walking up there. He brought his dog. So we're going.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'm like, oh, my God. I just started walking. I got out the car, and I'm walking up this damn hill, and my calves are on fire. What is going on with me? What happened? And I'm guessing you probably didn't bring water. You know I didn't bring water. You know I brought some soda. No, I'm playing. probably didn't bring water. You know I didn't bring water. You know I brought some soda.
Starting point is 00:26:46 No, I'm playing. I didn't bring soda. But I brought some water, and I'm walking up, and we start getting up there. We stop. He had to make a phone call. He does real estate or some stuff. So we stopped, and we're talking. I'm like, well, this is great.
Starting point is 00:26:57 This is great. We stop it. We're having a good time. I'm on my phone, Instagramming, just making content. And then we started walking. But we go like up this like this steep ass heel and we walked up. It almost slipped. And I don't have good gym shoes, gym shoes, tennis shoes.
Starting point is 00:27:15 What are they? Sneakers? I don't know. The hiking shoes. So like I kind of slipped and I was like, OK, we get up there like to this like weird area and we do pushups. I'm like, OK, this is cool. I shouldn't have did the pushups. Y'all shouldn't have did the pushups and I should have had water.-ups. I'm like, okay, this is cool. I shouldn't have did the push-ups, y'all. Shouldn't have did the push-ups, and I should have had water.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Started walking. I'm like, okay, we're talking. After like five minutes into it, y'all, I felt the wind. It was hot. Then it got cold. And then I was like, whoa. I ain't never felt like this before. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:27:41 What's going on? So I keep walking. I'm like, he looks back. He's like, Keith, are you okay? And I was like, no. But we keep walking. I'm like, I'm going on what's going on so i keep walking i'm like he looks back he's like keith are you okay and i was like no but we keep walking i'm like i'm gonna keep it going i'm like hoping like somehow some way he would see like he could tell that i wasn't good and every like his dog wasn't either his dog had like a fucking chinchilla fur on what yeah the dog had a full ass chinchilla one second one second chinchilla is the finest fur, according to Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:28:06 That's what I'm saying. The dog had on chinchilla? Yes, a whole chinchilla fur. So he's just panting. He's like, I'm like, do you see your dog? Your dog's dying. Your dog's dying. And we keep walking.
Starting point is 00:28:17 He's like, are you okay? I'm like, no, don't ask me that again. Let's keep going. Like, if you're not going to ask me to go down, let's just keep going. So we keep going. We got up there. I felt like I was going to die. I didn't feel good.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But like once, like, you know how they tell you don't sit down, like, and put your hands behind your head. Definitely sat down. Definitely did not do that. I was that bad. Like, I didn't feel like I was going to make it. And I didn't have water. And I will never walk up a damn hill at all. I don't care what hill, if it's just a hill like this that I just made and I walk over
Starting point is 00:28:46 this, I'm carrying some water with me, but did not feel good. But at the same time, at the end, I realized how much just like getting through it was for me. Like just moving, getting over the hill, y'all, like honestly getting over the hill and fighting for it because I did not feel good. I did not feel good and I don't feel good, and I don't feel good right now. So I'm just being honest. Just so you know, it doesn't matter how you get there, okay?
Starting point is 00:29:11 All that matters is that you make it to the other side. Because it's the climb. Is that Miley Cyrus? That's Miley Cyrus. I might have misquoted. I was serious. I almost cried and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:21 You shouldn't even write that. I mean, and plus if you keep doing the climb, like, it'll only get easier. Mm-hmm. Like, and it's pretty remarkable. Like, if you just keep committing to that. Yeah. Every single time is going to be easier than the last. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then, you know, maybe one day you'll run up that thing. Oh, I got to stop doing a few things for that. That's funny. I was going to ask you, did you end up passing out or just feeling like you're passing out? I felt like it. I was pretty close to it. Like, I've never passed out, I don't think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:55 No, I passed out before. I don't talk about it. But definitely passed out before, but definitely felt close to it. I did not feel good. My body was, like, hurting. You know, don't do it, y'all. How good did he feel after? Oh, man, I felt good.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Like I said, I realized why people do it, you know, why people move forward. It's, like, beyond, like, working out is not only, like, a workout or a distraction. It is, like, it's a building, like, tool, you know? Like, it's one thing to distract yourself when you do stuff, you know, like, yo, like you go through a breakup or something like, yo, I'm going to distract myself. But it's another thing to like distract and build at the same time. I'm building up my endurance. I'm building up my calves. I got chicken legs. I don't know if y'all can see them. These are chickens. Oh, he really has chicken legs. But just like everything, you know, just like my body, you know, trying to lose some weight, but I'm gaining it.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It's so weird. It's so weird. I'm hurt. It's okay. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing in this safe space. I think going back to like you're saying that, you know, you're trying these new things because you're trying to like chase your happiness or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yeah, find it. I think there's also a pressure online to not change. And, you know, you came into this whole thing as Keith four years ago or five years ago. And the Keith then is not the same Keith is now but maybe maybe you've had this external pressure to stay who you were before yeah for sure and you know that can cause a lot of internal strife yeah do you feel do you feel that way like do you feel like you're you can't like you're wondering like why you can't be a certain way or yeah like that feel like you're you can't like you're wondering like why you can't be a certain way or yeah like that's like uh yes you can't be a certain way you can't do certain
Starting point is 00:31:51 things you got to watch your back it's just a transitional period like like having so much time like you uh not so much time but more time to self you you realize you have time to really like reflect on self like when i was working i like i would reflect but i didn't have time to really, like, reflect on self. Like, when I was working, like, I would reflect, but I didn't have time to, like, think. But, like, really, like, think. Like, go into it. Now I have more time to think.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And, like, now that I have the time, I'm fighting. I'm like, okay, like, let's move forward. Let's move forward. However I got to get there, I'm going to get there. I just got to keep moving. I got to keep living. You know what I mean? But, like, let's move forward. Let's move forward. However I got to get there, I'm going to get there. I just got to keep moving. I got to keep living. You know what I mean? But definitely all those things, yes, definitely.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Be transparent. Like your glasses. Thank you. I like yours. Thanks. No, okay. This is one thing I always tell you. Noah has really nice eyes. They're green.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yo, so like when Noah works. You trying to change the subject? No, no. Keith, we're talking about you. I was having a compliment. I liked it. Okay, sorry. Finish the compliment, then we're back to Keith. We have really nice eyes, right?
Starting point is 00:32:57 Take off your glasses. Watch how big and nice his eyes are. I don't know. I might have a unibrow. No, you don't. Unibrows are in. Look at this. Look at those. Do it like sexy eyes. I'm't know. I might have a unibrow. No, you don't. Unibrows are in. Are they? Look at this. Look at those.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Do it like sexy eyes. I'm uncomfortable now. Give me one of these smirks. For the audio listeners, right now Noah is giving some just sexy looks. Is that what I do with my lips? Yes. Yes. Good job.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Okay. That's beautiful. Thanks. But here we go. What's up? Keith, you ever thought about going to therapy? Yes. I, at one point, no, I talked to Ryan about this. Ryan just knows too much.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Ryan, why do we all talk to you about everything? Dude, Ryan's a great dude. He's a great guy. I think I had like a breakdown, I want to say, like two years ago. How long ago? It was about a year and a half ago, two years ago. How long ago was it? About a year and a half ago, two years ago at the office in Beverly Hills at Defy. And it was like it was rough.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like I just could not get out of my own way. And y'all like I really like I deal so much. I'm very here. And I just remember having a breakdown. And even Ryan, like I was like I came to the conclusion that I needed to go to therapy and I'm like talking about it. And I would say like I need to go to therapy. I need to do this. I need to do that. Like understanding that it was time, you know, like just understanding it was time.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And Ryan said to me and it stuck with me. And at the time it didn't hit me. But until like over time, I'm like, I should have went. He said, he said he said but you're the type of person that won't go because you understand that you need to go he said something like that i know it's like dang like that actually was what it was like brian has been around the block and he sees people for he honestly sleep he sees people's soul and for him to see my soul and just know like i'm over here like yeah i need to go
Starting point is 00:34:45 like breaking down i just need to go to therapy i need to like you know talk to someone i need like i need some help and he was like yeah but like he said you know you said that's good like definitely go definitely go but you're not gonna go because like you already you know you're here you know so i need to go i definitely need to go now If there was a time Look I'm not necessarily Breaking down
Starting point is 00:35:09 But like sometimes I think I've told Noah this When I'm by myself I find myself I'm very like positive And optimistic And I believe that Anything that I want
Starting point is 00:35:19 I will have And anything that I say Like I'm all about That whole You know It's how I grew up Always had support around me. Like, there are people that don't have support, y'all, and that don't have, like, a support system.
Starting point is 00:35:30 My family's a very big support system in my life. I, like, look at my nephew right now. He has the same support system. I'm like, yo, this is how they work for me. Everything starts at home. But even beyond that, like, having your—I lost my train of thought. One second. You're far from home.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Definitely far from home. Don't have anybody here. But, dang, I lost my train of thought. One second. You're far from home. Definitely far from home. Don't have anybody here, but dang, I lost my train of thought. You were talking about how like you're a very positive person who believes things come with you, but when you're alone. Oh, yeah. Okay. So like I'm very positive, very optimistic. I get on Noah all the time because he can be a little, you know. I'm cynical as fuck.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Cynical. Noah's very cynical, and that drives me nuts. And I don't think that I'm cynical or anything now, but like I've just, when I'm by myself, I see, I've started talking out loud and saying negative things to myself. And that has never, ever, ever been a thing. And I'm like, yo, where did this come from? Like who's like spirit or whatever that I know around me. No, no, no, no. But like who's like whatever, like who got on me? Like where is this coming from? And I'm like I have no ideas, but like whenever I find myself saying some of the nastiest things to myself, and it's not even like nasty, nasty. It's just like wrong to like say certain things about yourself to yourself by yourself. It's like some crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yo, I need a therapist. Who out there? I need a therapist. Who out there? I need a thorough pause. I need a thorough pause. I need some therapy. But, like, when you say those things to yourself, I correct myself and I stand corrected and I'll always be like, no, like, this is not what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That's not true. That's not true. Because you shall have what you say, y'all. So make sure that you're speaking positive affirmations over your life i mean like the cliche y'all the cliche is a cliche because everybody like goes through it cliche is not a bad thing it can be but like if somebody's giving you some advice sometimes you don't want to just take advice from everybody but sometimes when you get some like shit and it's just like yo like this is what it is like oh that's the cliche like you want more like stop looking for more that's it is what it is it's simple but it's so difficult at the same time i'm just here y'all
Starting point is 00:37:34 you know you see me just over here like going balanced i'm a libra too so i'm like oh i don't know what that means what libra i don't know what any of those mean oh you, like, okay, so like we're very, we're about balance. So, you know, like I'll be saying one thing and I'll be like positive, but then I'll come negative. Oh, okay. You know, so I'll do that. We're caring. We're loving. I'm just about to give you all the good things.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to talk about the bad things. I just feel like those apply to hopefully everyone. You know what I mean? Yeah. See, this is a problem with him. Because he like... Sorry. Yeah, like that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Like I'll be having fun like with something and he'll be like, okay, but you know, like what about this? Or like what about like... It's just like... Hey, what if you stopped having fun with that idea? Right, like let me live. Sorry, bro. You never let me live. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Good Lord, sorry. Look, we just made it about some other shit. I think I'm generally a positive, optimistic person. But I mean, yesterday, like I was, I didn't, I didn't come into the shoot until like three in the afternoon. And that wasn't until I was called. Normally I'm, I'm coming into the office at 9am every single day. And then it was just because the shoot was, was later. I had all this extra time. Right. And I was like getting in my head and was just like thinking these kind of
Starting point is 00:38:50 like negative things and like doubting my whole sort of like place in, you know, in work and in life. Yeah. And, yeah, it's like it's a scary place to be. And then, you know know i came here and then and then start working on stuff and i felt a lot better yeah but it's like it's that kind of thing where it sounds like you're probably very similar where you know you when you're just alone in your own thoughts that's when you just you start stewing in it and i mean yeah obviously like
Starting point is 00:39:21 positive affirmations if that helps totally oh for sure but you got to ask do you know the root cause of these thoughts and are you actually yeah yeah yeah oh for sure for sure yes by all means like every yes yes you know and i think understanding where like a lot of things come from and like knowing that i need therapy because of certain specific situations you know what i mean just knowing that it's like frightening it's very frightening y'all and like also in the black community we do not we do not go get therapy i think i told my dad my dad's a minister and he's i think he's changed his he's definitely changed his uh his viewpoints now but i told him like right after a conversation with Ryan, the breakdown.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I had a meltdown, guys. You guys would have loved to have seen that. But I had a meltdown. And, like, what my dad and I ended up talking to my dad about, and I was like, yo, like, dad, I need to go to therapy. And he's just like, he said, just pray. Like, honestly, honestly, just said that. He said that to me. And I'm thinking, like, no, that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:40:25 That is the problem. Why can't I pray and go to therapy? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I get it. Like, I get it. I grew up that way. That is energy that I go to, that I reach out to.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You know what I mean? Hands up. Like, I will go there. Like, that's easy for me to do. Therapy, I need to talk to somebody. Like, I need to talk to somebody. And it's so funny that I say this now because just a couple of weeks ago, my dad ended up saying, I kind of went off on him
Starting point is 00:40:50 and I ended up getting off the phone. I'm like, I'm talking to you about, you need to go to therapy, obviously. But then he ended up writing on Facebook. My dad has changed into, I don't know what has happened to him, but just the things that he posts on facebook right now it's just so positive and he said yo beyond the church like the church needs therapy we we need to like go seek like counseling and like therapy and all that i was like whoa like a year and a half ago you just tell me to pray you know what i'm saying and i like and i did and i did that you know what i mean but, for him to say that and just come around, it just, I don't know. I guess parents do kind of hear their kids out, too.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. I mean, there's certain communities that it's, you know, mental health is stigmatized where it's, like, seen as a sign of weakness. Yes, for sure. And, I mean, for a long time, I saw it the same way. Mm-hmm. Like, therapy, what are you, crazy? Exactly. And I mean, even after I accepted the fact that you don't have to be having problems to go to therapy,
Starting point is 00:41:54 it still took me a long time and a few sort of like cataclysmic events to decide to finally go. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a process, and you can only go once you feel like you can, but, you know, we're all rooting for you. Oh, thank you. We were all rooting for you. I'm on the other team. Oh, no, you cynical asshole. I don't know what team that is, but I'm on that team.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Oh, no, no, thank you, though. I really appreciate that you guys complete each other we are like i love this guy i love you i love you too bro i love you i've been through a lot of life with you yeah like car accidents yeah i still hurt from those yeah i do too i should have sued you oh you know instead of a therapist see a chiropractor yes can y'all can you pay for that no no i wish i could good lord you definitely You definitely asked. You said, yo, do you need anything? Yeah, you said it. Oh, you're good.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Well, dude, I had to. I was already getting sued by the other people. Look, I should have took a piece of that cake. Oh, there was none left. There was none left. Well, I'm glad I didn't. Yeah, seriously, thank you. That's what friends are for.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah, really, not to sue you. I mean, talking about change, I mean, holy shit, Noah. We got you when you were 17. Oh, God. Like, we, like, you came into Smosh when you were literally a minor. I think I technically illegally signed the contract. No, you were legal 18. I was legal 18, but I don't think in, the contract asked for a parental signature.
Starting point is 00:43:23 You see what I'm talking about? Did your parents not sign it? No. I think I signed it illegally. It would have stood, but like thinking back on the very first like moments of working there, I definitely did not. There's a section that's missing on the contract.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Oops. Well, why did you sign it? You're a criminal. Yeah. I was being a loose criminal. Well, cause at first,
Starting point is 00:43:42 at first in, in the contract, I was going to leave at two years and then go to school. But I still didn't want to be a lawyer. So I was like, I'm going to stick it out. I'm going to keep doing comedy. I like it. So your plan was almost like you were planning on going almost like a Mormon mission.
Starting point is 00:43:56 You leave for two years. You leave high school for two years, do your mission, and then go off to college. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Just because. And yeah, I mean, the whole setup at Defy was really great and also like really hard in certain situations. So I definitely fought so that I could at least get out of the contract that I was signing just because it was a four-year contract and not knowing what I was going to get into. But the only way that I could have an out was in order to go to school and if I made it so that if I did I would have to go to school full-time and I'd have to like send them my schedules every week and like
Starting point is 00:44:30 all of my homework assignments couldn't be posted online that's crazy like some whack stuff yeah but it still was enough for me to be like okay and also convince my parents which I would have done it anyway that it was okay that I was like not going to school so at least there was still a Kim Kardashian could do it you can too let's just say that you can still not going to school. So at least there was still a school. If Kim Kardashian can do it, you can too. Let's just say that you can still go back to school. Oh, she went back? And still do comedy. Oh, is she doing law school right now?
Starting point is 00:44:50 She's going to be a lawyer, yeah. That's amazing. You can do it too. I might do that. That's when I do your homework. Yeah. Once I have that much money. Are you thinking about going back to school?
Starting point is 00:44:59 Not currently, no. I mean, to some degree, the schooling that I'm doing now is more like improving my comedy tools and more so making myself more better. More better. Making myself more better. But I'm showing I should read a book. But yeah, at some point I would like to.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, I guess the only option would be like online school which is what Shane did which is awesome but also it takes a long time he's finishing up this year oh damn but he's been doing online school since I've known him yeah
Starting point is 00:45:31 like since I've known him like way back then oh my god like he was he was working towards it and I'm sure like different levels of like degrees
Starting point is 00:45:39 and stuff like that yeah yeah he's getting it it takes a long time he's graduating that's also because he's successful though like he could have done it quicker but's getting it. It takes a long time. He's graduating. That's also because he's successful though. Like he could have done it quicker
Starting point is 00:45:46 but he was too busy like being a successful actor and being really funny and still having his shit together. Oh my God. Yeah. He's good.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, I don't know how he does it all. I love him. Because he does Smosh, he does Goldbergs and he's going to school. It's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:03 But it just kind of shows like if, I mean, there's always, you know, a lot of times like you can make excuses about like, oh, I don't have time to do this. There's always time. You just have to find it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Freaking shame, man. Hold on. How are you, bro? Oh, yeah. We have not asked you. How are you? How are you? Oh, I don't answer questions.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Oh, why not? How are you? That's an honest question. Come on. Yeah, it's been interesting. It's been an interesting, like, I don't know, six, seven months. It's weird because, I mean, yeah, I've always kind of been one of the leaders in Smosh, but I've never had to be a leader.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You know what I mean? Yeah. And so that's, that's been interesting. Cause I've always been, I've always been, I'm more of a, of a follower type.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I'm always more of a watch where other people fuck up and then, and then improve on that. Oh, can I ask you, did you not feel, did you, so you, you didn't know that you were a leader.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You didn't know that that was like your position? Because I think that's us coming into it. That's we, you know, we expected leadership. You know what I mean from you? Yeah. I think, you know, going into this new venture, I knew I had to take this position because nobody else could. So it was kind of like it it was just kind of like my duty to be in this position but it's it's not I I never I never had like
Starting point is 00:47:32 an aspiration to be like the boss and telling people what to do yeah you know it's I I'm always I'm more of a I'm definitely more of a diplomat than I am you know a I sort of like, I sort of like take in, take in everybody's like thoughts and feelings about everything and then, and then sort of formulate my own, my own opinion based off of that. To be in this position, it's, it's kind of like, I don't know, like I, I, I, I sometimes struggle with the fact that like, is this something that I'm not equipped for or is this imposter syndrome? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I really have to say this, bro. I used to, like, honestly, I'm going to be transparent with you, brother. And I kind of held resentment toward you for a little bit because I didn't feel that you led us in the beginning. You know what I mean? And you saying this makes me feel so much better because you didn't know. You honestly didn't know. And I was like, why isn't he showing us the ropes? What is he like?
Starting point is 00:48:36 But you honestly didn't know that was your thing. Nobody knew. None of us knew what the fuck we were doing, bro. And I'm just over here like where's our like what we don't you know nobody knew and like you saying this bro i'm so glad because i just like a part of me is like at peace knowing that like you didn't know you know like i'm over here like yo like help you know without asking for help because nobody's gonna be like help but like at the same time like you were you're like i'm just glad i asked you that because
Starting point is 00:49:05 i just got some peace oh interesting i mean i would have loved for you to ask for help i mean like the thing is you know nobody's a mind reader and we don't know when people are struggling until they tell us or until they're having a mental breakdown so yeah it's that's that's also like one of those one of the issues that that I'm dealing with is just everybody's struggling with something. Yeah. But not everybody wants to just tell you flat out. They might go complain to somebody else and then you hear through somebody else that somebody else is having a problem. You're like, oh, what?
Starting point is 00:49:38 So that's been kind of an interesting thing we're dealing with. But, yeah, I mean, look, we don't know what we're doing. That's the beauty and problem with YouTube. It's like nobody knows what's going on. We're all just adapting. We're just changing on the fly. If something changes on YouTube, we're like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, all right, let's do that. So, I mean, you know, our goal was to always bring on people and develop them into these, like, YouTubers, you know, or, you know, develop them as talent or as writers or as producers and sort of build it up.
Starting point is 00:50:18 We didn't have a playbook for that because nobody on YouTube has ever done that. That's the first. Like how many YouTube channels have changed talent? Nobody. Wow, I just got chills. I just got chills. That's what we used to talk about, that we were the guinea pigs. We were the guinea pigs and it's like, bro, history, history.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I'm very thankful. I mean, we're all guinea pigs. I mean, this is like we've when Anthony and I started on YouTube there was no playbook like it's constantly evolving
Starting point is 00:50:51 so no like I really think that's why like I didn't know that that's the answer that I would get you know
Starting point is 00:50:57 and it just a light went off in my head and I'm like oh my god like you know what I mean like fuck good lord
Starting point is 00:51:04 like you didn't know you honestly didn't know because you guys all have your specific talents and stuff we always wanted to try to find out what that is and sort of like raise it up because we all come from different backgrounds and i think that that's one of the cool things that that we're able to do with with our sort of like ensemble of people is like, my hope was that you're able to bring in people from like different life experiences and then, and then use those experiences to elevate the comedy.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Cause we, you know, there's only so much comedy that, that I can make from my perspective. Exactly. So, so yeah, I mean that,
Starting point is 00:51:43 that was always, that was always the goal no thank you for saying that brother like it just it definitely like put so much peace in my head of like concerning like yeah just it all like the whole experience for like the past like almost five years now yeah it was a rough place where we were and that's like once once it all went down that's definitely like where i started to get my peace from it too. Cause like, it's very difficult to not hold and not even like resentment at specific people, but the entire system and how it was structured was that at which on every
Starting point is 00:52:12 level, people were given different jobs that they had to do under different terms. And then they were forced to interact without the management that was technically everyone's boss correctly interacting. Because like for, for me technically i was working for defy and then leased to you guys but i was like with you guys every day and that's where i was working but i was still under different terms with a different chain of
Starting point is 00:52:33 consequences and command that i had to go through yeah along with you guys having to deal with kind of just rich assholes who didn't really know what they were doing but we're gladly just taking the money out from us so we couldn't really produce things or correctly invest in what we wanted to do on all fronts so yeah it was just like a big shithole and i realized that once once it all crumbled that it was like oh it wasn't one specific person like everyone was trying to survive in this just horrible horrible horrible place it's i mean it's it's hard to adapt as i loved the people that i worked with and i mean legitimately everyone that i met and even the people who like i would say like oh you drove this company into the ground like i would gladly sit at dinner with them and i know that
Starting point is 00:53:12 sounds weird but it's because they were so nice to me legitimately it's just the entire time like i don't know what was going on we just had no money and i know that i didn't have it my thing is what the fuck do we need to sit down and talk about? They're nice cars. Whoa, could I sit in that once? Can I borrow it? Hey, you remember that time that you couldn't provide? No, never mind.
Starting point is 00:53:36 We're not going to do that. We're not going to do that. We can cut it out if it's too... I feel bad. I've just been... Fine, I'm getting a nod from Ryan. Okay, fine. Okay, so I guess we'll just go back. I guess we'll just go down a list of things that I feel okay with now because I've had to. Oh, my God. But I guess list number one would be part timers. When we were working on part timers, we did 22 episodes, which was supposed to be 44 episodes. But I guess first gripe is number one. And obviously, it's not up to you, because I don't work for you. I worked for a different company that owned you. And it creates a very strange relationship that's difficult on everyone, which is like something that you don't understand until you work in a place that's got bureaucracy, how much that is the weight and stress of every day on
Starting point is 00:54:12 everyone. But I was supposed to be paid and not much money for 22 episodes. I was supposed to walk away with like $3,000, which 15% would leave me. Okay. All good. And then taxes doesn't matter. But it was like, okay, this is great for me to be off and doing something that's super fun, getting to work on the project, which was the second season rolls around first off i never got paid at all even though they told me i was getting paid um and but the bigger issue is that the second season comes around yeah apart from me not getting paid when i was supposed to the second season comes around and they didn't provide lunch for the crew it was a walk-off lunch and i know if i'm not getting paid my $100 day rate,
Starting point is 00:54:47 like, how much money is the crew getting? And now they have to go off and buy their own lunch. And first off, I have to sit there as a cast member and eat lunch because I get lunch for the eight of us because it's like, obviously, we need lunch because I have people who represent me and will, like, make this a bigger shithole than it already is because you're not paying me.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You know, like, I want to be a part of this. Everyone does, but you're making it hard for everyone who wants to be a part of this. So the crew has to walk off, whatever. The only day when everyone got lunch, it was when the executive producers were coming by, which is normal that you would do this on a set, that when the executive producers come by, you're going to have the nicest food possible. But normally people are eating every day. But no, the one day everyone got to eat, it was freshly grilled steaks out in front of you.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Like it was a big show. Like it was nuts. And the producers come by and they're like, wow, this is a great place. Well, they really are putting their stuff into it. And then they leave and no one's eating. And I was just like, man, that's such a rough position for me
Starting point is 00:55:38 because I'm friends with these people. I'm friends with Otto who made the cake cannon. Like I'm friends with, and I'm watching them leave as I'm eating my shit sandwich Every day it felt so bad, but overall that experience was fun It's just really hard to like feel great about things Yeah
Starting point is 00:55:54 When like you're like oh shit this company and then like one of the producers who once you get really good friends with him I'm not sure about to say cuz I like him. He's actually a fun personable person He's just also someone that is willing to watch people not eat lunch and then at the end buy a new audi and it's like where did you get that new audi was that off of your salary for this one project or like have you been saving you don't owe me an explanation but maybe don't drive it here that's it i remember that good lord that's like they're really great people and people that i would love to work with again and not even just because I need a job because they're actually like fun people. They're just also like so in the thick of the bullshit because it's like they're also in the system.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It's not like they're the one who designed it. They're dealing with their own bullshit. They're just also not helping the people below them. Yeah. Lift the ladder. I think that was also just an issue of people being used to TV budgets and whatnot, having to adjust to a YouTube budget. And I just don't think they did the right accounting. Bro, there should have been a documentary happening of us producing that show because we shot, I want to say- There was some
Starting point is 00:56:55 cool stuff. There's some cool stuff with that show. Like I think there was some good stuff that came out of it. Like, I mean, just just the fact that like we didn't build a set we rented like a whole building or ex movie theater turned wedding planning studio yeah we turned a whole building into like a fake chucky cheese it was kind of dope like they definitely didn't uh i don't know if they did it to permit because they were just like cutting holes in the ceiling and putting in lights and stuff. They didn't. Well, they definitely didn't because season two ended and we didn't want to do another. We were supposed to do season three and four.
Starting point is 00:57:37 We convinced YouTube to instead of doing that for us to do Ghostmates. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. I do remember. So after season two, we were like, okay, we don't want to do season three and four. I ran into one of the producers, and she didn't know at the time that we weren't going to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And she was like, yeah, did you hear? Like, it rained, and the whole building flooded, and it ruined everything. And I was like, oh, no. Yes. Oh, I don't know what we're going to do. Yeah. But I think it flooded because they cut those holes in the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. It was not a good building prior. But we had an entire freaking ball pit. Yes. We had a giant, we built a giant ball pit that we had no idea what to do with all the ball pit balls afterwards. We're like, does anyone want ball pit balls? That's like the most disgusting item. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they would sanitize them. They would take them and they would sanitize them every now and then. It's cool. I just don't want to be up in no balls. Dude, that place, that was like a vacation, that experience. That was wild, man. We shot it out in Santa Clarita.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Bro, we shot about all of that. We literally shot 11 full episodes, 11 like 20-minute episodes in I think 13 days. It was wild, man. And then the second season was maybe 14 days. Like it was a total of 30 days at most to produce 22 episodes. That's ridiculous. It was a lot of content. All I remember is you not being
Starting point is 00:59:06 at the office and my light was a little dimmed because you weren't there. I thought you were about to say it was a lot easier to get along with everyone. I get along with everybody, but it was just like, where's my friend? Thanks, bro. It was super fun.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I remember, oh my gosh, it worked the mornings and then worked the nights and I would just sleep in the middle and then I'd go home and I'd wake up and I'd do it again and it was so fun. Yeah, it was a good, it was a good like just like distraction from the usual thing. And I think that, you know, it's one of those things where we realize like, oh, the fun, this is like a fun sort of like diversion from the normal day to day YouTube stuff. Also, I think we had the best way of killing off a character, which was right after you shared a romantic first kiss with the character. You can still see the wire in this shot, by the way.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah. I mean, you know, again, limited budget. But we killed off a character in probably one of my favorite ways. And I think it was – I don't want to take credit for it. Because, I mean, there's so many other people that wrote on it. But so you guys have a kiss, whatever. She falls off a building. Right after you guys have a romantic kiss, she trips on some rags or something
Starting point is 01:00:22 and falls back off the building lands on the ground and you're like oh my god she's dead and you look over and she's like she's like oh i'm okay i just landed on some rags and then a car runs her over right after it kills me and it's actually pretty funny because they do the shot of like the bumper of the car like it's kind of some scary movie shit where it's just the camera coming at her and she's just like, It's pretty funny. Oh my God. I have to say, I think we killed off a character in one of the funniest ways.
Starting point is 01:00:55 That was good. You want to know what the best part of Part-Timers is? What's that? The director and not the DP, but one of our camera operators are now married. Laura and Hunter are married. Laura, the director, and Hunter, who I think, I don't know what the rules would be. But he wasn't the director of photography, but I think he was like first cam op. I don't know if there's an order.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You think that's where they met? Whoa. No, that is where they met. And now they're married. They're married. We made a connection? That is where they met. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:19 That's beautiful. Both of them were the best. And Laura is like totally female director killing the game right now. Oh, really? Yes. She's, like, got articles about her. She's doing a whole bunch of stuff. I want to say she, like, directed an episode of Broad City or something like that.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I don't know. But I could be lying. Go ahead. But, like, general comedy stuff. And she's, like, all out here making sure all of her sets are all women. Like, she's doing it. Oh, like, she's, like, she's it. Yeah, she's killing it.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Oh, that's incredible. That's incredible. And then she's got her husband, like, filming shit, like, on the set. It's perfect. It's really cool. Yeah. They just got married. Like, every...
Starting point is 01:01:48 Hold on. She has a whole, like, women... She has a woman crew. Crew filled with... Crew filled with... I cannot tell. Crew filled with women. She has a crew filled with women, but her husband's the only guy.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Yeah, yeah. I mean, even all her male actors are female. Yes. I'm with it. So, guys're we're almost running up on our time so i just want to ask one one last question how do you think your dreams have changed in the last four years i don't remember them as much um like i was saying like transitional period the transition for me is realizing also that my dreams haven't changed and I have to continue forward with what I've already created. You know what I mean? Things change. Ideas change.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I want to do more stuff. But the foundation of it is honestly still the same. It's the same. Although, like we said, Keith has changed. You're not the same. I am. like you're not the same i am and that's i think running from like what i was doing before you know and not trying to like like from the like the parodies and everything i've got so let down like within the like last few months like and i was like i don't want to do that anymore and i'm
Starting point is 01:02:56 like what should i do like what should i do should i do like this type of sketch comedy should i do the pair do all the shit that i've been doing. When you start changing stuff, you can add on to it, but the foundation of it has to be consistent. I'm glad that I just found that out two days ago. I had a meeting with my manager, and we were just discussing different things and different ideas. I started pitching him ideas for stuff, and he was just writing them down, just trying to grasp hold. He was like, how many people we need for this? Just the whole thing. I'm like, whoa, I just got to grasp how many people we need for this just a whole thing and I'm like
Starting point is 01:03:26 whoa I just gotta do it I just have to do it just do the work ain't shit changed ain't shit changed but uh uh
Starting point is 01:03:34 I was gonna say something so wrong continue just say it say it we can cut it out no I'm not that's so funny no no
Starting point is 01:03:41 it's not worth it okay I was gonna say ain't shit changed but the size of my dick cause it's cold that's funny it's not worth it. Okay, I was going to say, ain't shit changed but the size of my dick because it's cold. That's funny. That's not as bad as I thought. That's probably not going to make it right.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I thought you were going to say something extremely racist. No, no, no, no. Ain't shit changed but me getting fired from SNL. Yeah, let me just say something horrible right now so when I'm like 45 I can fuck myself. Do it, do it, do it, do it. Okay. I'm here for this. Yeah, except except wait nobody would ever say those things nobody would ever say those things and say that that's really a joke if anyone listened to those sentences that this man has said you talking about the snl guy yeah i think his name's like shane something with a g much less
Starting point is 01:04:21 funny shane we already forgot about him is he that cancelled yeah I don't bro I wouldn't even say cancelled like he just has a consequence for what he did that's it he wasn't cancelled
Starting point is 01:04:31 there was a consequence you're right yeah if you make those statements publicly and then go on a show that just now is hiring their first Asian person yeah you probably
Starting point is 01:04:40 are not gonna stay there no technically Ron Schneider was the first Asian really oh he's Filipino this is the second one oh okay I'm sorry but it seems like They probably are not going to stay there. No. Technically, Ron Schneider was the first Asian classmate. Oh. He's Filipino.
Starting point is 01:04:46 This is the second one. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. But it seems like- I don't mean to speak for anyone else. Yeah, but I guess- They've got a lot of Jews there. Love it.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Really love it. You guys are killing the game. They've got like two black people. Yeah, but Kenan's been there for a long time. Oh, yeah, whatever. I love Kenan, by the way. He's great. So your dream's still the same? It's still honestly long time. Oh, yeah, whatever. I love Kenan, by the way. He's great. So your dream's still the same?
Starting point is 01:05:06 It's still honestly the same. Oh, okay. Oh, like Mike. Have you guys ever seen that movie? I love that movie. Okay, hold on. I got to be honest, y'all. Like, I ate some hot shit last night, and my stomach is burning.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Dude, I had Jack in the Box tacos and fries. Listen, hold on. If I could prairie dog, I couldn't. That's what I'm saying. It's just coming out. It's liquid. No, because the back half is softer than the front half. Listen, hold on. If I could prairie dog, I couldn't. That's what I'm saying. It's just coming out as liquid. No, because the back half is softer than the front half. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Your body's made of cloth. Could we wrap this up? Yeah. Wrap it. For sure. Wrap it. Oh, my dreams. I'll answer the question too.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Did you like the paper? Toilet paper? Yeah, I like the wrapping. Hurry up. Okay. My dreams. I guess I didn't really have many dreams beforehand. Now, I don't know if I've got huge dreams that I got like more like daydreams, just
Starting point is 01:05:46 like really fun ideas that I enjoy to make. And if there's stuff going on, I like to improve it. I enjoy being able to help make things better and at least stand behind something like a lot of the Smosh content I've ever worked on. My favorite thing to say is that I could teach PowerPoints on it, which is what I like to say about all my content. I don't care if you like it or not, but I'll gladly sit here and be like, oh no, this is a conversation that was had and why it was had and why we're saying like these five
Starting point is 01:06:08 specific words instead of like these other five specific words and this is technically a joke whether or not you like it but we set it up in a structure that is actually comedy versus kind of just random ideas being jumbled together so that is super fun and that i would credit to to my experience here and i gotta say ryan trinity who's off to my left, that dude is captain teacher of life and skill and ability. That person gets you one. Captain teacher. Captain teacher. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Captain teacher. Captain teacher, Ryan. Y'all don't have to duke you anymore, so take your time. All right. Well, I finished. You finished? Yeah. So I'm sorry for you.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Good score. That was a lot. I started sweating. I had to take off the headphones. Do you'm sorry for you. Good score. That was a lot. I started sweating. I had to take off the headphones. Do you poop more than once a day? It depends on the day. Okay. Well, Noah and Keith, thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Of course. Wow, we dug deep, guys. Yes, we did. This was a freaking, this was a deep one. I don't know if we've ever gotten this deep before. Deep in the 60s. We haven't even gone this deep in just like normal real life. This is the deepest we've ever I don't know if we've ever gone this deep before deep in the 60s we haven't even gone this deep in just like normal real life this is the deepest
Starting point is 01:07:07 we've ever gone there's like there's depth here Keith and I have gone so deep into Rihanna versus Beyonce that is no that is Olivia
Starting point is 01:07:16 yeah I know I was just making a joke Noah and I don't have okay we're not we're wrapping it up for another time for another time for another time
Starting point is 01:07:23 and thank you guys so much for listening and watching. You can listen to us on any of the podcast apps, or you can watch us on the Smoshcast YouTube. Also, you guys got to get the Smosh Slush Cult collab while it's still here, because it's going fast. People are just snatching this stuff up fast. We got hats. We got hoodie. We got the shirt right fast. We got hats. We got hoodie. We got the shirt right here.
Starting point is 01:07:48 We got stickers. We got pins. We do have socks coming. They're on their way. But they're fly. So look out for those socks. They're fly. That was the one thing that I asked for. They were like, you get one thing. I was like, I want those socks. They only gave you one thing? No, we can give you guys
Starting point is 01:08:04 everything. No, no. I was in my original conversation. That's what I was like, I want those socks. They only gave you one thing? No, we can give you guys everything. No, I was saying my original conversation, that's what I was recounting. I did get a separate email, sorry, where I could get more items. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, you only got one because I got all of it. So stingy. You get 20% off. I'm sorry, left foot or right foot?
Starting point is 01:08:22 Thank you guys so much for coming on. Of course, bro. This was really great. Do you guys so much for coming on Of course bro This was really great Do you guys feel good? I'm just putting it out there If anybody's doing free therapy sessions This is the worst This is not a joke Actually thank god
Starting point is 01:08:39 Because of where we are You can go to the LGBTQ center Whether or not you identify And they will give you help or find you a resource Legitimately for free. It's the closest thing to health care that we have. Okay. Also, there's a website resource that I can send you.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Really? A lot of therapists will do sliding scale based on your income. Okay, cool. There's also some facts out there for you guys. Hell yeah, go get therapy, y'all. Therapy isn't always really expensive. Sometimes it is, but it's not always. You can look into it.
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