Smosh Mouth - S2: #51 - Nerding Out with The Boys

Episode Date: February 19, 2020

Ian, Damien, and Shayne nerd out for the entire duration of this podcast on everything from video games to Ghanaian movie posters. Consider yourselves warned. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit... megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 never be happy or satisfied, that sucks. Like, is there any part of this thing that you love that you actually love? My calling it, Cyberpunk is going to be a letdown. My calling it is that Final Fantasy VII Remake is going to be a letdown. Fun fact, guys, if you think about buying a castle, they look cheap on the outset, but it's not the price of the castle that'll get you.
Starting point is 00:01:01 It's the taxes and fees afterwards. Castle tax, and it's also feeding the serfs. Yeah. of the castle that'll get you. It's the taxes and fees. And it's also feeding the serfs. Do you care if I chew a cough drop, Gold? I won't chew it, but like I kind of don't want to cough. You can suck on it slightly. Is it audible? I'd say like just be mindful of when you're
Starting point is 00:01:20 talking, it's not clanking against your teeth. Yeah, I keep it stored in my gum like I do with teeth. I mean, if anyone's i thought you're about to say teeth like i do with my teeth i mean if anyone's gonna be good at controlling their their voice and they're talking with random things in their mouth it would be you thank you fuck uh that sucked That sucked a lot. Very sorry. No, it was funny. Welcome everyone to the Smosh cast. This, I believe, is number 51. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Today I'm joined by my lovely two boys, Damien Haas and Shane Todd. It's bros like we. Look at this tired boy. Bros like we. United again. Yes, very tired we we flew back from uh from houston yeah what were you guys doing in houston so this podcast coming out because of the tour this podcast coming out in a couple weeks after we recorded it but uh we were at the wwe royal rumble 2020 baby so what's nuts what is the royal rumble what separates a royal rumble We were at the WWE Royal Rumble 2020, baby.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So what is the Royal Rumble? What separates a Royal Rumble from a different wrestling match? Apparently, from what I've been told, there are four big match styles per year. And this one is a 30-person battle royale. Two people start in, and every two two minutes or roughly two minutes um another person is added to the mix what the one rule is that uh to get someone out you have to get them over the top rope and both of their feet have to touch outside of the ring so sometimes people are thrown under the ropes and they can hop back in um or they're thrown over and they manage to like leap across into the like the barrier yeah they stand along the barrier and they managed to like leap across into the like, the barrier and they stand along the barrier
Starting point is 00:03:06 and they run around and they like, managed to jump back to the, there's a ton. It's like their feet didn't touch. Yeah, as long as it's very much like, in a way it's like kind of playground rules of like, like the floor is lava and they really mess around with it. Like they make sure every now and then like a wrestler gets really close or like has one foot,
Starting point is 00:03:21 one in the women's rumble, woman got thrown off and then there was a no naomi i think yeah and and this wrestler named otis was was laying down on the ground on the side and she landed on top of him then she was able to stand up on top of him and then like leap back into the ring they have like tons of bits like that planned it's really fun yeah it's nuts man and like it was cool they get tossed around. And like, they are- Because we had never seen wrestling before. No, I'd never been to a match. And like, they're destroying,
Starting point is 00:03:49 like they got thrown into the announcer stand and every like, and it's not like it's a fake announcer stand. Like there were, there were TV screens and all this equipment set up. And I mean, a guy got thrown it and just destroyed it. Like it just all got annihilated. And you guys, and you guys got tickies
Starting point is 00:04:03 right at like the floor. Like I saw you guys on television you guys got tickies right at like the floor. Like I saw you guys on television. They really took care of us. Because again, we were kind of spoiled now because we had never seen any kind of wrestling match. Just being there would have been enough, but like we were literally behind the announcers first row,
Starting point is 00:04:18 like floor level. So people kept tweeting us like, Hey, I just saw you on TV. Is that you? And they were like, your face looked like a kid in the candy store. But as cool as it was,
Starting point is 00:04:26 you know, there were times where I didn't really know how to react. Like I was cheering for everybody as they came out, but then there was like, I think four or five people into the like women's battle Royale or Royal rumble. I was like, yeah. And then everyone tapped me and they were like, no.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And I was like, not her. Not her. She's the baddest one. Brock Lesnar got, when he got taken out, Matt Robb was just like, yeah, you suck. And Brock Lesnar looked right at Matt Robb. And then Matt Robb just shrunk. Just shrunk. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I have a photo of the guy who defeated Brock Lesnar stamping around on stage as Brock Lesnar looks like looks up at like me and Matt's area. It's kind of a cool shot. It's definitely dope. You get into it. Like, like I went in not knowing much about it, but by the end you're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:12 boo. You suck Brock Lesnar. Fuck you. Yeah. That Trent, that Trent Lesnar sure is me. It's a, it's a band joke for some very specific people.
Starting point is 00:05:22 There you go. It's a nine inch nails reference. Trent Lesnar. Oh, Brock Lesnar, Trent Lesnar. Yep. Ooh, that's a band joke for some very specific people. There you go. It's a Nine Inch Nails reference? Yep, Trent Reznor. Oh, Brock Lesnar, Trent Reznor. Yep. Ooh, that's a tongue twister. Yep. I'm warming up Brock Lesnar, Trent Reznor, Brock Lesnar, Trent Reznor.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But there's a lot of comparisons to it. Like, I mean, we realized wrestling is anime. It is in a lot of ways. It's essentially anime. Like the storylines are anime, the way that it's like, oh no, he's about to get beaten. He's like, he's like unconscious.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Like, oh no, get up Roman Reigns. Everyone in the audience is like, stand up, we believe in you. Yeah. They'll like slowly get up. That's all it took. They just had to believe in me. Literally.
Starting point is 00:05:59 That's, we even made that joke because we talked about it with like a, you know, a certain movie that came out recently. It's like, oh no, now he's gonna believe harder and that's how he's gonna defeat him. Like that's how it goes. That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You just have to do harder. Do more of it. Yeah. That's why I hate singing movies and singing like TV shows. Cause they just have to sing harder. Yeah, like the DreamWorks sing that came out or whatever. It's literally just like, if you want to make a difference, you're going to have to go out there and sing the best, most goodest,
Starting point is 00:06:30 the most you ever did. And then it's like, now I am, now I can do it. That's, I mean, if you think about it, every movie in some, in a lot of ways is that do that harder. Like in, I watched Ford versus Ferrari and they were like, you just got to press the gas pedal harder. Like in, I watched Ford versus Ferrari, and they were like, you just got to press the gas pedal harder, and then you suddenly speed past the other person. You just got to gas pedal harder.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yes. What if I just drive car better? In a race? It'll never work. What if I just shift? I need to shift harder. I think I know how we win this race. We've been going at 80 miles per hour,
Starting point is 00:07:11 but what if we just decide to go at 90 miles per hour? I only had this gas pedal pressed down halfway. What if I pushed it all the way? It's amazing how that trope is used over and over again, but still every time it's used, there's a part of me that's still always just kind of like are you fucking out, dude? No, totally. You have to add in the trope where
Starting point is 00:07:30 it's just like, why are you always pressing it down halfway? It's like, when I was 10 years old, my brother and I pressed it down all the way. He popped. Now I don't do that anymore. And then it's just like your brother would want you to press down the pedal more. He's just like, you're right. I think that's literally the plot of the first fast and furious yes really
Starting point is 00:07:48 yeah i think literally wow it's like because it's like his father's car and he's just like i don't drive it scares me yeah at the end he's like all right i'll drive it when he does a burnout and a wheelie at the same time which is physically impossible it's physically impossible to do both but it's but again it's badass oh it's super badass like they had to they had to literally rig the car because it was real it's a practical effect they had to rig it so that like it would do a burnout and then they had like some kind of piston down below that pushed the car up to do a wheelie. Cause I, I'm guessing the director or somebody or the writer was like,
Starting point is 00:08:29 yeah. And then the car burns out and then does a wheelie. And then like the special effects people are like, what the hell? Yeah. Amazing. But yeah, that's,
Starting point is 00:08:39 it's so funny. Like how, how common that trope is in any kind of like racing movie, they shift and then suddenly they go way faster. It's like, Oh, we got to do a shift again. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Nick Cage shifting forever. What is that? It's this YouTube video. Someone cut gone. And it's gone in 60 seconds. No, it's the beginning of the rock. Oh,
Starting point is 00:09:00 FBI. Yeah. It's the beginning of the movie called the rock where, and they take this whole chase this chase sequence but they cut it down so it looks like he just steals a car and crashes it within 10 seconds so it's him like get out of the car FBI he gets in the car and he's like
Starting point is 00:09:14 wah wah ah ah it's just all the in car driving shots of him just like steering and shifting and then steering and steering and then he just crashes. You're going down! Wah! Wah! Wah! Mr. Cage, we've just had a movie offer sent to your office.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yes! I'll do it. You don't... Yes, I'll do it. I don't want to read it. I can't do it. I read the script. It's great. You don't have a... That's a menu for tender greens on your computer. I'll do it. I'll do the backyard steak.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Apparently his new movie that just came out is good. Is that the one where he plays himself? No, it's the one where it's aliens. Something like. Oh, we didn't say we weren't going to see it. Spoiling. Oh, I heard about the one where he's playing himself, but that's not being filmed yet, right?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Or it's just starting. Maybe it's been being filmed for 20 years. It's got to be fun to be Nicolas Cage and just do any movie you want because you're in crippling debt. Yeah. I was gonna say, cause you're in debt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, it's gotta be dope. How do you end up in debt? Have you seen the tombstone that he already bought? Or yeah, it's the pyramid. He bought that pyramid mausoleum or something. It turns out when you buy a lot of castles in Europe. Is that right? Is that literally what it is?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Literally. I think that's what happened. So fun fact, guys, if you think about buying a castle, they look cheap on the outset, but it's not the price of the castle that'll get you. It's the taxes and fees afterwards. And it's also feeding the serfs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 The serfs may have a cut of what they grow and nothing more so i think he owns a bunch of castles and then because of that good god debts mount i don't understand that's got to be it's got to be a psychological thing where you just become addicted to being like yes i can do that like i don't know i've been in positions before where like i've been broke as a joke but spent money on stupid stuff because it's almost like a comfort to myself being like, see, I can do whatever. So maybe if you come from not having a lot and then all of a sudden you have a lot, you just want to be like, yes, yes, I can do that. I never have to worry again. I think it's also another thing of like just running costs. So, so if you're, if you've
Starting point is 00:11:23 purchased a lot of things and had a lot of things going on, you have this monthly cost that it takes for your, to keep your livelihood up. And that's how, that's how you get the sort of like Wesley Snipes of the world where, you know, or the MC hammers, where it's like everything, you know, seems affordable, but you have this constant running cost of everything. Your cost of living from month to month increases. I know this guy that he was, I think he was in oil or something, made a lot of money. Business wasn't so great. And he was like, yeah, just to stay afloat, I need to make $40,000 a month. Whoa. Yeah. There's been studies that people like just for some reason,
Starting point is 00:12:07 psychologically, we adjust to the income we're making. So you never actually get to, I don't know, people aren't good at saving. Like they're not good at going, oh, and they're going, oh, I'm making this much so I can spend this much. I don't spend money on anything for that very reason. I don't spend much money either, I've realized. Like we were talking about our cars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And how- My car is garbage. And I like the car that I have, sure in the next couple of years, I could afford to get another car, but I'm like, my car works. Yeah. Is my mindset.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I'm like, I'm gonna drive it into the ground because I just don't, but I just don't desire anything. I'm like, it's impractical to me. They get to the same place at the same speed, especially when you're living in Los Angeles. Like it's not, if you got a Porsche, but you're stuck in traffic like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That's what I'm saying. And my car is from 2007 and it's had problems for a long time. It broke down when I was on a mini personal vacation on top of a mountain a couple of weeks ago. And I thought I was going to be stranded and couldn't get back to Smosh for filming because there was like one small garage in the town. And it was like, well, they don't open up until Monday.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And then it was like, it was literally that. And so even after being stranded on a mountain because my car broke down, I'm still just like, well, it's fine. Like, I don't get it. Wouldn't you end up spending more money on fixing this car over and over and over and over again? Yes, I would. But also right now I don't have it wouldn't you end up spending more money on fixing this car over and over and over and over again yes i would but also right now i don't have a car payment so there's just a part of me that's just like i don't want to do that and like i'm i'm able to save for the first time
Starting point is 00:13:35 in a long time and i've been enjoying saving it feels nice like i only spend money on like treating myself to food every once in a while so well is it a situation where you're in the back of your head you're saving up to potentially like buy a house someday? I would really like that. Cause that's a little different. Cause I feel like that's different because then you are, you are, you're not going, oh, I just don't spend money on anything. You're going, oh, I'm not spending money on these things because I have a bigger thing in mind. That's fair. It's just, I think that there is a healthy balance though. Like right after So Random, I had a good amount of money in the bank, but it, rent in Los Angeles is so expensive that even though I was,
Starting point is 00:14:09 I did the same thing I'm doing now, I don't spend money. It was gone pretty quickly due to just rent and upkeep of life stuff, car fixings, different car, still a piece of garbage. You know, now I need to find the balance where it's like, when was the last time I bought new clothes? All my furniture doesn't match because it's hand-me-downs and I'm fine with that. But like, what was the time I, when I buy new bed sheets, I need a smaller computer table because my room is unnavigable right now. Why can't I do that? I just, I need to find a balance where it's like, it's okay to buy something. Yeah. There was, cause I, I remember it was a couple months ago where they were getting rid of a, like not a good couch here in the office. Like it was kind of like dirty.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And you're like, oh, I'll take that. And I remember I looked at it and I was like, Damien, buy yourself a couch. I was like, you can buy yourself. I was like, it's a little too big for my room. It's very dirty, but it's free. I was like, Damien, you can do that. But I'm kind of a hoarder in that way.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I've gotten better. But remember when we were roommates, that's what I'd be like. Well, you are the type that you, it's the practicality. It's like, I'll find a use for it. Where you're like, oh, that's what I'd be like? Well, you are the type that you, it's the practicality. It's like, I'll find a use for it. Where you're like, oh, that'll work, that'll fit. And I'm just like, but you could also buy yourself
Starting point is 00:15:10 something that like works better or whatever, but you're like, no, but this works. And I'm like, okay. No, the funniest thing when we lived together, I love, this was great. Cause he came home and you definitely, you're not the same at all. Like-
Starting point is 00:15:23 Not quite. Because also we weren't, back in the day when we weren't making any money, it did make more sense. And you definitely, you're not the same at all. Like- Not quite. Because also we weren't, back in the day when we weren't making any money, that it did make more sense. Right. But you came home one time and you had this giant piece of driftwood.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But it was a really cool, really heavy piece of driftwood. It was really cool looking. And he was just like, yeah, I found this driftwood. I'm gonna use it to like make a shelf or a headboard or I forget what it was. But then it sat in our garage and our garage was filled with tons of stuff that all of us were like,
Starting point is 00:15:46 I'm going to get to that at some point. I did just have a personal milestone in that department though. One of our PAs on set while filming recently was like, we were talking about video game stuff and he's like, yeah, well, I play stuff on computer sometimes, but I don't actually have a console
Starting point is 00:16:00 because we would need to hook it up to a TV and my girlfriend and I don't have a TV. And I was like, ooh, you want a TV? Because if you follow my Instagram stories, sometimes you see I had two TVs, one on top of the other. One of them I used, the other one I didn't. It was like 12 years old, but it was still there.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I was just refusing to get rid of it. So I was like, I'm gonna, I wanna give you this TV. I'm gonna just get rid of it. And in return, he baked me some light. And he and his girlfriend baked me like a little carrot cake thing. But like old Damien would have never done that. It would have been like, well, I kind of need two TVs. What if one of them breaks?
Starting point is 00:16:32 It's funny. You and I are polar opposites in that fashion. Because I love to get rid of stuff. Yeah. I love to have as little as possible. Like this past weekend, even, I was like, let me get rid of this bookshelf. And a bunch of books. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 you know what? I read these or I'm, I I've had them for years. I'm not going to read them. So I'm going to get rid of a ton of them. Yeah. I do that. I do that every,
Starting point is 00:16:53 every couple of months. I get rid of a ton of stuff. It's healthy. Yeah. I just don't clutter your life. I don't like to have things that I don't use. I'm like, I want to just have the stuff that I need.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I could take a page from your book because I, I have this like, you know, those Ikea, like four by four, like cubbies that you get and you buy your own. Yeah. So I've had one of those for like years. And I realized recently it takes up so much space in my room. It's not very comfortable. I can't really like lean back too much when like streaming or just have my computer because of that. And I should get rid of it, but I'm like, no, those drawers are filled with things. And literally there is one drawer I actually go into to get stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And it's the one that houses all my like HDMI cables and computer stuff. Otherwise I could, that thing could burn down tomorrow just by itself in a very concentrated fire. And I would not, there's not a single thing I'd be like, oh man, that thing. I should just get rid of some stuff. Marie Kondo it.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Marie Kondo that shoes. I i like mess i think that's i think it's also like a you know some people get that takeaway when they when they travel they see how people live with with less because america we're just used to abundance and it's just like things and stuff and then you go somewhere else and you're like this is is nice. Like you don't need, you don't need this or that or this decorative plate or this old toy from, you know, when you were a kid or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah. You know, it's. Yeah, you put a lot, we put a lot of importance. For me, it was with books because I, and I read this, like,
Starting point is 00:18:24 because Marie Kondo does that thing where she's like, get rid of this, get rid of this and look at books and what books do you want to get rid of? put a lot of importance for me it was with books because i and i i read this like because marie condo does that thing where she's like get rid of this get rid of this and look at books and what books do you want to get rid of and i remember that part had a lot of controversy so we were like don't get rid of books they're really important stuff and someone said owning a bunch of books isn't a personality trait and i was like oh and it like kind of hit because i was like i'm keeping a lot of books just because i'm like i love books and i just want a lot of books and i was like but there's a lot of books that I don't actually care about. Books that I read that I didn't even like.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Why am I keeping it? Other than to just have it there. So it's like, I read that book. I'm like, nah, I'd rather have only the books that I love. But dude, you bring a girl home. She sees you got a big ass shelf of books. But I don't know if she knows you're literate. I'd rather bring someone home and have a set of books books that I love and could talk about so that they go,
Starting point is 00:19:08 oh, those books. I'm like, yes, those are my favorite books. I've read more, but those are my favorites. Also, since I live in an apartment and you know, in LA, you move, moving just happens a lot more. I like knowing that when I move, it's not gonna be that hard. I love that idea.
Starting point is 00:19:24 You know what, thinking about your apartment, that would be the easiest move ever. Moving is never easy, but damn, you've done a good job. I do not. So I've, I replaced a lot of my furniture in this past year with like lighter furniture so that I'm just like, cause with that in mind, but also like, it's not like it doesn't look good. It's just like it doesn't look good it's just like it works and i just i like to be half nomad you know that was the bit when we did your uh house tour video everyone's
Starting point is 00:19:53 like did damien really steal shane's table and chairs and it's like well yes but i was i i stoked to like get rid of before beforehand i was like well yeah we had planned on you taking all that stuff for a while and i was like let's yeah, we had planned on you taking all that stuff for a while. And I was like, let's just do this. Is that too inside? No. Of course. People probably thought you just brought it right back. No, it's in my home.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And I do own that many candles. He really does. He's a candle boy. Love candles. Candles are great. The wrestling is great. You guys feel like you're going to go to more wrestling matches? You were saying at the end that you might be, like you could see yourself getting into it. I like doing, I like passion.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I like when people are passionate about a thing. And like, I know you like cars. So if you were ever like, Damien, I want to show you this really cool car related thing. Even if it's not my thing, I would love doing that. Same thing. If Matt Robb was just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:46 we're all going to this wrestling event and invited me along. I'd be super down. Yeah. I think I feel the same way with, with wrestling. It's, it's as long as you have somebody that's there, that's,
Starting point is 00:20:54 that's enthusiastic about it and they're not a snob about it. And they're just like, they're, they're welcoming you into their passion and sharing it with you and explaining the things that you don't understand. And you're kind of like, they're cheering along with it. Show me why this is amazing. I can't wait to see.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah, and Mari and Matt were so into it. They were in their element. It's infectious to not. Like they're pumped about it. They were so happy. And also there's just so much crowd participation. Oh yeah. In the, at wrestling.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Like everyone is just so involved in it. Like you said, with like Brock Lesnar, where everyone's the, at wrestling. Like everyone is just so involved in it. Like you said, with like Brock Lesnar, where everyone's like, fuck you. Cause nobody likes Brock Lesnar. He's a human rhino. And like,
Starting point is 00:21:31 he was, he literally is. And like, what's fun is like, they play, like they participate. Whereas like in sports, they're doing their best to ignore the crowd for the most part.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Whereas, whereas like when Brock Lesnar got thrown out and everyone's just like, you suck or whatever. And he like, he's looking at the out and everyone's just like, you suck, you, or whatever. And he's looking at the crowd, he's just like, stop, be quiet. He's like, shut up. Yeah, it's like great. And I'm like, and I know he's playing along with it.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Or like Roman Reigns stands up, but there's a wrestler sneaking up behind him. And everyone's like, Roman, behind you. Look out, Reigns. It's definitely, and you find yourself doing it by the end. I will say the one thing that kind of confused me is, so random thing, I auditioned for a WWE related voiceover thing way back in the day. So I researched a lot of these characters like right when I was starting out.
Starting point is 00:22:17 We're talking like seven years ago. And so seeing them now, like these characters undergo changes and evolution and all that stuff. And there's one called Daniel Bryan, who's known for being like, he just dresses like he didn't know there was a match that day. He's just like a normal dude. His thing is that he's a normal guy. He's a normal guy, but he's positive. So his word is yes.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And it's all about the yes movement. So everyone's just like, yes, yes, Daniel Bryan. So watching his evolution now, they've paired him against this other wrestler called The Fiend. Or it's someone's like alter ego, where it's like it's supposed to be a literal demon that just torments him. But from what I've seen, there is such little wrestling that actually happens between them. Daniel Bryan just gets the snot kicked out of him
Starting point is 00:22:56 for like 15 straight minutes, just being whipped with leather. And every once in a while, he'll just look up and be like, like he's really thinking like, maybe I do have it in me to get it back up. But, and the audience is like here for it, but he also keeps losing. So when he finally lost again this time, I was like, what did I just watch?
Starting point is 00:23:13 This was like a snuff film. That's to set up, that's to set up further. Like it's a continuous storyline that continues forever. Cause I think- There was no like back and forth though. There wasn't like a poll of like, is he going to do it this time he just got hit
Starting point is 00:23:26 on the ground yeah with 15 minutes with rocks just like hitting him on the head with rocks I think when
Starting point is 00:23:32 I think when I went the fiend showed up and kicked his ass yeah so but it was like really confusing no it was
Starting point is 00:23:40 I think it was somebody else but it was just like really confusing but I think that's part of Daniel Bryan's bit maybe is that as in like he's the underdog who's gonna keep getting the crap beaten up. But you wanna see the underdog succeed.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But he will eventually. Yeah. He will eventually be the fiend. He looks like a homeless Mormon. That's how I would explain it. What a specific sentence. That's accurate. If it, look, if it turned out,
Starting point is 00:24:01 if it goes a couple more matches or years and he just keeps losing and then the fiend's like well I'm retiring and I'm the champion then I would agree but I think they're having him keep beating him
Starting point is 00:24:11 so that people are like wow he's gonna keep beating him so that the match where Daniel Bryan does win it's like oh my god he finally did it and he chooses to believe harder
Starting point is 00:24:19 but that's the thing they start off the match every time with him being like this time I'm believing harder. And you guys are the ones who fueled this movement. The yes movement of positivity. And I was like, yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Like, so that moment's already there. He has to get close sometimes for us to be like. I thought he got close a couple of times. For like one minute out of the 30 that he was just getting his shit rocked. Look, look, Damien, we're wrestling fans. I know. I guess we are now. But I was just like, damn. That's how it happens.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's not like a rivalry thing. It's not a back and forth thing. He's just getting bullied. I don't know. I will also say, like, I know that they plan it out, but man, they do actually get thrown the hell around. There's some stuff where I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:04 that definitely could have broken. And there was a couple of times also where they like, those wrestlers would like walk off and you're like, that guy's actually hurt. Yeah. That person got messed up. And the craziest thing is then they get in a plane and fly to a different town and do it the next day.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Oh, they literally have something tonight. Yeah. After that show that we saw last night. I don't know how, like, they are without a doubt, like, athletes. But they're all, they're all like, they're all really nice people and they're all huge nerds. Yeah. Is what blows my mind. Every single wrestler that I've met has been really, really sweet, like sweet people.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah. And they're dorks. Like we talked to, who was the wrestler that we, or the guy that we talked to? Well, Xavier, yeah. But we were also, we were talking to UpUpDownDown about Dark Souls and everything. Yes, Adam Cole, was that the name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 No, I can't remember. It looks like he could be related to you and Tanner. Yeah, but they all like, they all love video games. A lot of them love anime or comic books and stuff. I mean, because if you think about it, all of those guys grew up as wrestling fans. They were fans themselves. And then they had a dream to become wrestlers
Starting point is 00:26:14 and they were one of the many few that actually made it. But yeah, New Day, all those guys are total nerds. Such nerds. It's funny because Matt Robb has always told me there's like such a crossover between Smosh fans and wrestling fans. And I've always believed it, but never in my life have I gotten so many tweets
Starting point is 00:26:32 and messages at the same time from a single event. Like people have seen stuff before and been like, hey, I've seen you on this thing. But like my feed was just flooded with people being like, is that you behind those guys now, sir? Yeah. So I liked as many as I could. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Smosh wrestling fans, we out here. Are you a wrestling boy? No, I think I'm on the same page as y'all, where it's just, I don't know a whole lot about it, but I can appreciate it. A part of me wants to watch more of it, but it's the same with, for me, it's the same with like NBA,
Starting point is 00:27:02 where for the past couple of years, I've been like, God, I want to watch more basketball games. It's just hard to add another thing to be a fan of when I'm like, I just don't have the time. Like I'm a huge, I love TV and movies and football. And I'm like adding another sport. I just can't. It's all ongoing.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And there's like a storyline that you do. Like with basketball, it's like, oh, did they win or did they lose? Who scored more points? Did anyone get injured? And there you have it. With basketball, it's like, oh, did they win or did they lose? Yeah. Who scored more points? Did anyone get injured? And there you have it. That's your update. But with this, it's like, well, this guy said this thing about him backstage.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But what you didn't know is that her brother got beaten up outside the arena by this guy's friend. There's a lot to it. There's so much. It was towards the middle of the match when Brock Lesnar was throwing a bunch of people around. And then this guy, Drew Mcintyre gets in which everybody like knew and was like oh my god and he gets in and they look at each other and drew mcintyre goes i've been waiting for this moment for a long time you son of a bitch and i'm just like what what what's this yeah so i'm like there's a lot going on and then this guy uh which everybody who watches
Starting point is 00:28:01 wwe knows this but all of a sudden like the announcement of like another contender and this guy named Edge comes out and everybody freaks the hell out. And I was like, who is this? And Matt Robb was like, he's been retired for, or he's been out for 13 years. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:28:15 so you really have to be committed for a long time. Because I was like, bro, like football, you can hop into next season and be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:28:23 great. Was it cool that Brett Favre just showed up for a game? He's like, I'm back. It kind of low-key happened. It's what it is. So the cool thing about the Royal Rumble too is, you know, like I said, every two minutes someone comes out. So they'll put up a countdown of 10 seconds, like nine, eight. And then they don't show the person right away.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You'll hear their signature intro music start. And then it pops up on screen so it's this moment of just like i saw one of the announcer guys sort of look back at the audience to be like oh he's about to check our reactions someone big is coming i know this and then edges music starts i forget how it goes but you just hear the first couple notes and all of a sudden everyone's like what the hell but. But I got, it's gotta be cool. Like if people like Matt Robb, I know goes to a lot of like the indie scene wrestling.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah. And literally like- Absolute craziness. But he loves it. And he says it's even like, he likes it even more in some ways. But like the guy who won the Royal Rumble, Matt Robb was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:20 I saw him in a local wrestling match like two years ago. And I'm like, that's gotta be cool to watch people go from like just seeing them in a small venue in LA and see them blow up to the national level. That's gotta be a lot of fun to follow it like that. I'm like, that's cool. A lot of things to be a fan of. What are you guys a fan of right now
Starting point is 00:29:39 in terms of books or movies or anything like that? Oh, good question. Ooh, just stuff. Just stuff. You know, Damien. Ooh, just stuff. Just stuff. Just stuff. You know, Damien was watching this anime that he told me to watch. And now you're past where I am. Now I think I watched more because it's way up my alley.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's called Vinland Saga, and it's just Vikings. It's literally Vikings, like the History Channel show, but it's anime. And it's very grounded. From what I can tell, there's, like, no magic, nothing special. It's, like, grounded. Like, if someone gets stabbed, like, oops, that's it. Like, it's a, yeah, which is cool. It adds anime. And it's very grounded. From what I can tell, there's like no magic, nothing special. It's like grounded. Like if someone gets stabbed, like, oops, that's it.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like it's a, yeah, which is cool. It adds stakes. It's pretty cool. Sometimes they stab people with them. Yeah. Stakes or make people out of them. No, so you're thinking of vampires
Starting point is 00:30:17 and that's already way too magic. It's not magic at all. Nope, nope, nope. Do they skip the whole, the not so good things that Vikings do if you catch my drift? From what I can tell. They don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:27 They don't show that stuff, but they don't hide away from it. All the characters are garbage humans. Because like Vikings, they're all like, yes, I like killing. There's like one or two people that you're rooting for
Starting point is 00:30:38 who are sort of like victims of circumstance without spoiling too much. And then everyone around it is just like, wow, what a massive gray area you occupy all the time. And I think that's what makes it interesting because you don't have that typical like, this guy's the hero and we like them the most. But again, you're farther than I am.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So I don't know. But Leif Erikson is literally a character that shows up in the first episode. Literally, it's like, hi, it's me, Leif Erikson or Leif Erikson. I don't know how to say. Yeah. No, all the characters are brutal. Vinland Saga? Vinland Saga.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I recommend it. Yeah. All right. And then- It's Amazon Prime. Ah, damn. And then- You have Prime.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I don't have Prime. You don't have Prime? I don't have Prime. You've got to be the only person I've ever met who doesn't have Prime. Yeah, I don't have Prime. What do you do when you need a two day shipping? I go to a fucking store and buy it. You leave your house?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yeah, and I don't have to wait two days. I feel bad. So I have this All Might statue now on my desk. Little side note. And All Might is a character from an anime that we all love. I have a little statue for my desk, and that's my first bit of desk decoration. And I went to a local comic shop to get it because I had seen it in their window before. So I was like, yes, support the locals.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And when I showed up and I was like, hey, do you still have that All Might statue? They look at each other and they go we sold it an hour ago and I was like ah well Amazon it is yeah it sucked but I was like man that's too bad like and they didn't do anything wrong but I tried I tried yeah yeah I don't
Starting point is 00:31:58 I don't buy things online is it um out of like principle you just want to support local stuff or is it just you know it's just not your thing I'm often the same but it's out of uh impatience principle? You just want to support local stuff or is it just, you know, it's just not your thing? I'm often the same, but it's out of impatience. Like I'll just run to Best Buy and get it. Yeah. Support your local mom and pop Best Buy.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah, exactly. I'm not helping anything. Yeah, I don't know. Like I just don't, I don't feel the need to buy things online. Literally the last thing that I bought online, which I don't, and I don't buy things online, but last thing I bought online were these movie posters.
Starting point is 00:32:29 There, some people might've seen this thing on Twitter in the country of Ghana in Africa between like 1970 and 2000. Basically there was a lot of factors that led to this, but basically the government banned printing presses to avoid dissent. I guess it was hard to get like movie materials. There was these sort of mobile movie theaters that would go around to like the rural areas of Ghana
Starting point is 00:32:54 and they would show movies. But since they didn't have access to the movie posters, they would hire local artists. Oh, I have seen this. Yeah, to paint movie posters. Thing is, they didn't always have, they didn't always watch the movie or really know what the movie was.
Starting point is 00:33:13 So sometimes they painted these posters and they look, they do not represent the movie at all. That's awesome. There's one for Mrs. Doubtfire that I saw that has, it has Mrs. Doubtfire ramming a broomstick through a guy's head and there's like blood everywhere. What?
Starting point is 00:33:31 That's awesome. Yeah. Oh, so wait, so you got some of these? I read the article and I immediately went to eBay. Of course you did. And bought four. Are they like legit from that time yes oh my god that's incredible i bought one uh that was no these ones aren't as they're not as funny as like the mrs
Starting point is 00:33:55 doubtfire one because those ones people scooped up already but they're all original pieces of art um and they aren't because of the, I'm guessing the weather, printing on paper wasn't conducive to what they needed. So what they did was they stitched flower bags together and then painted on those. Awesome. So it is a six foot poster. What? Yeah, it's a six foot poster, each of them.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I got one that's a true lies. Amazing. Which I gifted to Finity oh cool arnold schwarzenegger's face for some reason the faces they're not too good at the faces they're good at like drawing muscles and they're all different artists but sometimes the faces just look bad uh i i got uh since mari's a big uh the rock fan sure i found one for walking tall okay where solid the the painting work is actually really good but he looks a little guatemalan okay specific that's very specific i got one uh for matt robb i because i i hit him up and i was like hey if you were to get some sort of movie
Starting point is 00:35:01 memorabilia from these possible things so uh I got him a poster of Three Ninjas. Oh, of course you got that one. Yeah. And then I got Enter the Dragon. For yourself? For now. For now. No, it is Bruce Lee doing a pose, and his face looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Hell yeah. And they spelled his name wrong, which is like my favorite part. That's pretty impressive. Bruce Lee. Is it B-R-U-S-E? Is that like what? No, they did L-I-I.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Oh. So. Okay. Not bad. Wait, but you're telling me you did this online. Why didn't you support your local Ghanaian movie poster shop? Painter from the 70s.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah. Yeah, man. Real low of you. I know. Why don't you go to Best Buy and see what you can find? That's true. Otherwise.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Unlike me, who goes to Walmart? Yeah, that was a, it's just a funny, it's a part, it's part prank because I feel like by gifting these,
Starting point is 00:36:02 they feel like they have to put them up somewhere in their house. A six foot tall poster. It's more of a curse that you've cast upon them. Yep. How's that gonna work for you? You have a cat.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I mean, if it's stitched flower bags and you assume it's in a frame. Well, I'm assuming it's in a frame. Is it gonna climb up? A six foot frame? I never thought about that. So you think about cat stuff. Yeah. I don't.
Starting point is 00:36:21 You could probably put it in a, you can get a six foot glass frame. Oh my God, that's probably expensive. Six feet? Movie posters come in, and I mean movie posters are much smaller than that, but you can definitely get one. It'll cost a lot, but. It's gonna be very expensive. Yeah. But also if it's on the
Starting point is 00:36:35 wall, like is a cat gonna look at that on the wall and jump up and do that? I don't know where I'm gonna hang a six foot movie poster in my house. Yes. It's gigantic. I don't know. My cats have gotten a lot better about it, but they used to try to like climb up the curtains and Zelda is fat as hell.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But the curtains go down to the floor. So if this is like hung up a little bit higher, but how tall are his ceilings? You've got, you could put it in like the stairway area probably. I don't want to look at it that much. What have you done to yourself? It's a little cursed.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Like they're a little cursed. Cursed images? Yeah. Yeah. Cause like, cause I just, I just gave it to Matt it's a little cursed like they're a little cursed like images yeah yeah because like because i i just i just gave it to matt robb and he's like i had no idea how demonic these children's faces look on this poster like they like one kid's eyes are just black that's phenomenal that sounds so cool though one of them they could be cursed you don't know yeah they they've been around for a couple of decades. Like that gives enough time for curses to be laid upon them. But I think it's just such a cool little,
Starting point is 00:37:32 because I like history stuff. So I think it's just like a cool- Like three ninjas. Historical documentary. Yeah. One thing, I really like this about you, Ian. You're excited about this thing and you're telling us about this thing and you ordered four of them and you're like, so I gave this one to this person, this about you ian you're excited about this thing and you're telling
Starting point is 00:37:45 us about this thing and you ordered four of them yeah and you're like so i gave this one to this person this one of that person like that's your instinct you seem to be a very gifty man i don't usually do gifts oh i know that's wrong well i'm usually no no no idiot that's right no i guess i mean i like to yeah i don't know like i i saw and i was like oh this would be kind of a funny i don't know how much I was doing it for me or doing it for them because there is something really funny to forcing somebody to put a giant terribly
Starting point is 00:38:12 painted three ninjas poster in their house Matt Robb loves that shit absolutely yeah you know what you have to do now is schedule hangouts with them within two weeks and just be like so where do you but where'd you end up putting it oh yeah they have to rough yep that's rough you know infinity's got got a end up putting it? Oh yeah, that's rough. Infinity's got a family. I hope it scares them.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, I don't know. I was like, would you want this? Because I don't want to force it on anybody. But if they take it, they better damn well put it up somewhere. What movie did you get him again? True Lies. Arnold Schwarzenegger. His son's just terrified of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Arnold's face is a little bit messed up in the- You watch that Jamie Lee Curtis movie? Oh! You know, the last thing I splurged on was actually, it was a couple of weeks ago. I decided to finally get an Oculus Quest. That's great. Oh, dude, I've been looking for that freaking thing. I can't find it anywhere.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You just have to order it and it's- You have to order it online. So I ordered it a while ago. And by the time this pod comes out, it still might not have gotten. It's just, it takes a while. Like it's like you order it and it comes to you in like two months.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah, because I kept checking Best Buy. I just, no, they're never going to have it. You have to order it from the website and it's going to take a minute. But I was just like, you know what? It's about time I get one because I love it. You've been talking about it.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I think it's that fear of becoming the person who's home alone in their apartment just in VR day in and day out. Not on the Quest either. It's not very good. You made the wrong choice. I'm kidding. The Quest is arcade a very like,
Starting point is 00:39:46 it's arcade game type stuff, which is so it's very temporary games, but like super hot. I could play for hours. Totally. Yeah. But that's okay. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I know. I know. I'm just like, you know. I remember when PlayStation VR first came out and I would go over to Joe's place. We got a mutual buddy named Joe. Hi, Joe. He's not listening.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And we would just play like fruit Ninja for a few hours. Like it was a lot of fun. It's dumb fun. Yeah. But that was, you know, it's a pricey. It's like 400 bucks.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Something like that. Something like that. Yeah. But it's great. I love that stuff. It's a lot cheaper than buying a different kind of VR thing and have to pay for the PC that goes on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Like, and I like it cause I can travel with it. Yep. Like if you're staying in a hotel somewhere, I'm like, just pop that on. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's really cool. Bring that on the, bring that on the tour bus. I mean, I know I'm not going to have it. I wonder how that motion will work with you being on a tour bus. I wonder if it will consider that you're moving. No,
Starting point is 00:40:38 I don't think so. Maybe. I think it has to do it. Like, I think it bases it all off the floor that you then connected to. I don't know. I don't know. I don't, that's my one thing that's holding me back from vr i would want to get one of the ones attached to my computer because i do do gaming stuff on my pc
Starting point is 00:40:52 but like i don't have room and even so like mark has a quest uh matt's matt's brother my roommate mark um he has a quest and he'll just chill with it downstairs sometimes but even then i'll like be down there and i'll have to be like, hey man, you got a cat coming at your feet in a couple seconds here and just don't step on my cat daughter. I think as long as you have a good eight foot square area, which I barely have,
Starting point is 00:41:16 then you're fine. Because you can set it up for that. But there are those other ones that you have to set up and they have sensors in the corners of the room, so it literally maps out the space. Yeah, that's a lot. But that's what I want. That's a lot. See that's too much work. But that's what I want. That's fun. Too much work.
Starting point is 00:41:27 The quest is just simple enough for me. And I'm also ordering it and a month later, Animal Crossing comes out. Oh my God. And that'll probably be what I focus on. I can't wait. Why, you're obsessed with Animal Crossing? I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:41 we talked about this on the trip. Shane, what are your thoughts on like siblings and Animal Crossing? Okay. So I have this funny little dumb Animal Crossing story. I was talking about when we were, it was yesterday where I was talking about Animal Crossing and how I've been obsessed with that game series since I was young. When it came out for GameCube,
Starting point is 00:42:00 nobody really, not many people bought it back then. Like at least not- Meanwhile, states away, there I was waiting to be your friend, playing Animal Crossing. In Arizona, I was the only person I knew playing it. And I was like, maybe I was like 11, 12 at the time. No, even younger. No, around, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:14 But anyways, I remember playing it and my friends coming over and being like, what's this game? And I was like, so you're a guy and you moved to a town where all your neighbors are animals. So you're in debt and you have to fish and you can pick up fruit. And you can do favors for your animal neighbors. And if you do that, they might give you wallpaper. If you describe Animal Crossing, it's the dumbest game. But it's somehow the most addictive game on the planet. And nothing happens.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Nothing happens. There are zero stakes. Less stakes than Minecraft. I think it paved the way for games like Stardew Valley and things like that. I mean, obviously Harvest Moon came before all of it, but like casual games just to have an experience. I think sometimes we lose track of what a game is supposed to be. And, you know, nothing wrong
Starting point is 00:43:07 with those like really intense, really serious games and there's PVP and all that stuff. But it's just nice to sit down and be like, oh, my neighbor might give me wallpaper. Like I remember when I was a youngster, I had that like ability
Starting point is 00:43:17 to connect the Game Boy Advance to my GameCube. And I also had that like e-reader. There was like a card reader for it. And I bought one pack of Animal Crossingreader. There was like a card reader for it. And I bought one pack of Animal Crossing cards and I would spend like a day swiping the same card so that Bruce the Eagle would send me a stereo system, which I figured out was the most expensive thing
Starting point is 00:43:36 that a friend could send me. And then I would just make a crap ton of money and be like, time to like make my own museum in my house. No stakes, nothing mattered. It was just fun. You can just do whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah. I love the games where. It was just fun. You can just do whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I love the games where you have to collect stuff. They get me. They're satisfying. Yeah, there's a good lineup of video games this year, man. Yes. And we got a break right now, but Animal Crossing comes out. I'm so sad Cyberpunk got deleted.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I know. I'm stoked. I'm glad. But I'm glad they're doing it. But, well, okay, this might be a call in it. Oh, are we calling it? Should I do a call in it? Let's do a call in might be a call on it. Oh, are we calling it? Let's do a call on it.
Starting point is 00:44:06 All right, sorry. What's your call on it? My call on it, Cyberpunk is going to be a letdown. So dude, I planned my calling it. My calling it is that Final Fantasy VII Remake is going to be a letdown. Ooh, y'all are killing me. I think, and I'm hoping it's a jinx, but I have a feeling Final Fantasy VII Remake
Starting point is 00:44:22 is going to come out and people are going to be like, you know, we should have just let it be a classic. That but I have a feeling Final Fantasy VII Remake is going to come out and people are going to be like, you know, we should have just let it be a classic. That's going to be my fear. And I don't think it's going to be bad. I think it's going to be mediocre. I think it's going to be like just like same level or a little bit worse than Final Fantasy XV. I'm going to jump on both of y'all's
Starting point is 00:44:38 calling it. And you're going to say they're both amazing. Not quite. No, I'm not that, not quite that contradictory. Final Fantasy VII is set up to fail no matter what, because I can think of no other game that is remembered as fondly as that. Like, it's literally like,
Starting point is 00:44:55 what's your favorite band? The Beatles. Like, it's what's your favorite game? Well, this, this, this. In Final Fantasy VII, of course, everybody has such good nostalgic memories of it. And even if you don't, if you never played it, you've heard about so, you know, how good it is. So with this remake,
Starting point is 00:45:09 there are going to be changes. The gameplay style is completely different. You are also no longer eight years old in your room during summer break and have all day to play it and just get lost in it. It's going to be different. The battle system from what I can tell is more like Final Fantasy XV or like a Kingdom Hearts, whereas we were used to that turn-based strategy thing, which is also not a format that works in the modern day. Oh, it's real-time now? Very much. Yeah, it's real-time. Like, it's literally moving in 3D
Starting point is 00:45:34 and, you know, there's, they've shown things in the trailer that aren't quite, you know, familiar from the past games. So, like, I think it's going to be a great game, but I don't think there's a single damn thing that they could do to please the fans. So, I think it's going to be a great game, but I don't think there's a single damn thing that they could do to please the fans. So I think it's going to get good critic reviews. It's going to get horrible audience reviews
Starting point is 00:45:50 and it will be a good game. That is my calling it. I think that's, I think that's pretty decent. I think it's a pretty decent calling it. You think Cyberpunk is going to be let down. I don't know if I can get on that just because of the footage, that 40 minutes of gameplay that I saw
Starting point is 00:46:02 looks so impressive, but it's, there's a lot of factors. I mean, it could be bad. That 40 minutes while I sucked up every moment of it, I was not impressed. I also have a hard time believing that the people who made Witcher 3 could make a bad game. There is one major...
Starting point is 00:46:18 Oh, sorry. What? There's one major difference there. Witcher has so much book lore to go off of, which is interesting, but... But isn't Witcher 3 completely their own story? yes but they built it off of that kind of stuff in the first place Cyberpunk was like it's own D&D kind of deal
Starting point is 00:46:33 so they have like lore books to go off of but not stories necessarily but sorry I cut you right off I really like the writing of the Witcher I thought that was really fun in the game I thought there was well written characters it seemed like cyberpunk is just it's it's coming off like really edgy we're like oh shit i gotta get this gun oh fuck you and if it just it just seemed it just it just coming off a little a little too like edgy where I think maybe when Cyberpunk comes out, if I was 17,
Starting point is 00:47:08 it would be my favorite game. But I feel like it's not going to have the same kind of adult appeal as The Witcher. And I feel like the reason it got delayed and who knows, but I think they've created such a massive game. They're loading a game with stuff. I'm worried it's going to be too complicated.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Or just, there's just going to be a lot of stuff, a lot of tasks. And it won't be focused enough to deliver like a good interesting narrative. And when a game promises too much, like you could do anything. You could do this. You could do that.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Like, I think a good example is like a Deus X and sorry for the people that don't play video games. This is going to be too annoying maybe, but for Deus X, like they have the same kind of thing where like you could do anything. Like you could go stealth. You could go,
Starting point is 00:47:58 you could hack, you can just go and shoot everyone. There were open world elements to it, but a lot of the missions were sort of like hallways with alternate routes where it was a little bit more focused in the gameplay. I'm just a little, I'm a little worried that we're just gonna get a game
Starting point is 00:48:16 that has a lot of stuff and has like some good stuff in it, but a lot of monotony. That could definitely be a drawback, but I could also see it being an advantage. And actually hearing you say that is something that's gotten me a little bit more excited about the game.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Because I, first of all, I'm a little biased. I really like fantasy settings. So if it is The Witcher, if it's Skyrim, you feel like you're able to just, I want to be in this world, this forest, and there's dragons and caves with treasures. This is like a city setting. It's metropolitan, it's cyberpunk.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So that could be one thing that turns me off about it. But if they do make it more, if they are going to go off of the sort of D&D aspect of it and you are making kind of your own character and your own story, there are aspects of like Fallout and Skyrim, which are pretty universally loved games that have that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:49:03 where you can do anything, but there's focus within it. Like Skyrim, it's just like, you can join the dark brotherhood or the thieves guild, or the, you can become a shield brother and that kind of stuff. And you can do all of it if you want,
Starting point is 00:49:17 but like, it might be the kind of thing that we keep remaking characters and being like, okay, this one, I'm going to play all thiefy. And if that's the case, I think it'd be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You're totally right. Cause I, I think I'm also just trying all thiefy. And if that's the case, I think it'd be great. Yeah, you're totally right. Because I think I'm also just trying to hype myself down because I am very hyped up. Yeah, it's been hyped a lot. I fuck so hard with cyberpunk style. Same. Altered carbon. Oh, same.
Starting point is 00:49:38 It's not my thing at all. Blade Runner. Like, oh my God, just pump that shit into my veins. Cool. I love it. There hasn't been really like a big game in that type of setting. Well, there's Deus Ex kind of. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I guess that's it. They kind of skitter along that line. And I was like, yes, baby. Yes. Well, hopefully we're wrong. But if we're right, that means Last of Us Part 2 is going to be Game of the Year. Yeah. Or Animal Crossing coming out in March.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Animal Crossing will never win Game of the year yeah or animal crossing coming out animal crossing will never win game of the year even if it is anybody's gonna be playing it is not going to want to leave their console for long enough to vote for it yeah so i just want to know when the next strand type game is gonna come out you know yeah let's see that next strand type game video game jima video game jima a lot of people who play that game really defend it spencer defends that game yeah wholeheartedly games are just not for everybody all the time so sometimes the same thing where you're like wow this is art and i'm really enjoying it someone might be like this isn't at all what i thought i think that's some of the difficulty that comes with the enigma that Hideo Kojima creates around himself.
Starting point is 00:50:46 If you guys don't know, that's the person that used to do all the Metal Gear Solid games. Because when you're trying to be like, we don't even know what this game is yet. You're going to know whatever. Then people make up in their own minds what they want it to be. And when it's not that, you're going to please a very specific and small group of people. It reminds me,
Starting point is 00:51:01 there's so much content out there that I realize I don't ever allow myself to play a game that I know is considered bad going into it. And same with TV shows. But I think it's why the Witcher did so good was because it was finally a show that was popular enough and everyone was watching it. It's not a critically acclaimed great show, right?
Starting point is 00:51:18 It is- Yeah, critics were wishy-washy on it. It's not, but it also is a very imperfect show, but that's kind of why it's so fun. And it was finally like- Dude, I loved that show. No, I loved it, but I hadn't loved a like not great show in so long
Starting point is 00:51:32 because I hadn't watched one because there's so much stuff. There's such, I have such a large queue of shows that are apparently so good that I got to keep watching them. But they're also like very similar in style where it's like very slow paced and subtle,
Starting point is 00:51:44 whatever that I'm like, I don't get to watch something that's like a popcorn thing or play a game they're also like very similar in style where it's like very slow paced and subtle, whatever. Then I'm like, I don't get to watch something that's like a popcorn thing or play a game that's also like not perfect like every now and then. That's why I enjoy Danganronpa so much because the people who love it, flippin' love it. But like it's reviews are like good, but it's not like 10 out of 10 perfect game. It was like
Starting point is 00:51:59 none of my friends play this except for Kevin now. What's up Kevin? We're going to talk about it. But like none of my friends play this. It's not something I'm going to connect with a bunch of people on. It's just for me. You know, it came out a few years ago. It's not the coolest thing. I can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:11 But that was the Witcher. The Witcher was the biggest surprise for me. Really? The Netflix show. I mean, man, it's and it's it's I think maybe by this time the pods come out. It's the most like the most watched first season on Netflix. They also there is a thing about that. Not to poo poo it, but they Netflix changed the way they started season on Netflix. There is a thing about that, not to poo poo it,
Starting point is 00:52:25 but Netflix changed the way they started reporting their numbers. It used to be like a certain percentage watch. Now it's like, if you watch two minutes of something, it counts as a full view because nobody accidentally watches two minutes. So, you know, it is, I think it did do better than Stranger Things,
Starting point is 00:52:40 but it's sort of the same kind of thing where like 80,000 becomes 1 million and it's the same statistic. It's the opposite of YouTube. Also Netflix completely controls their own statistics and they don't share them with anybody. So they can say whatever the hell they want for publicity purposes.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Sure. But anecdotally, everyone I know who watched it loves it. I love it. People are obsessed with it and it was really it was a different viewing experience than I've had in a while yeah it was like it was it was fantasy fast and the furious I will say though I will say though that dragon stuff that that episode was my least favorite but but like the talk talking it felt like it felt like an 80s tv show yeah with better graphics felt like dragon heart it literally was like it felt like an 80s TV show with better graphics it felt like Dragonheart
Starting point is 00:53:25 it literally was like it was like what's up I'm here I'm the main guy I'm gonna have sex with women and it's just kinda like awesome
Starting point is 00:53:31 cool man hell yeah I'm down for this I am the last dragon that was that got I was like well you know what
Starting point is 00:53:38 the show is still figuring itself out and I don't think season 2 is gonna be anything like season 1 because of the way the story is going and time line is going I'm excited I'm excited because of the way the story is going and timeline is going
Starting point is 00:53:46 so I'm excited too I just think like I think it was them throwing a lot of stuff at the wall being like even if 75% of these episodes are winners we got a good one on our hands and that sword fight in the first episode is dope it's insane still want them to make a Metroid TV show oh someone told me about
Starting point is 00:54:01 the other day it was they like in chat said check out the metroid the movie on youtube apparently someone did like a fan version of it and it's literally what you're talking about oh cool yeah i haven't looked at it yet so it could be wrong i don't know probably the worst probably lie probably everyone's got 100 views he's literally a kid with the camera and his cat's dressed up in an orange jumpsuit i mean a lot of those a lot of lot of those fan movie things are just like... I have a hard time with them sometimes.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Sometimes they're great. I respect the work that he's put into it. But then sometimes it just comes off as like a weird awkward cosplay thing. Speaking of Altered Carbon really quick. Altered Carbon. By the time this podcast comes out... That's actually really funny.
Starting point is 00:54:48 That's what Matt would say. Like, just for altered Cabral. Anyways, that comes out technically the new season, season two comes out a week after this podcast comes out. Altered Carbon comes out season two? Yeah, that's right. And it's with Captain, well. I didn't watch season one, I'm sorry. Well, there's there's a but there's a new like this isn't spoiling there's a new there's a new carbon
Starting point is 00:55:10 there's a new carbon oh you need to watch oh but are you gonna watch that show i will i mean but like you were saying there's just so much to watch that like when people are like oh my god marvelous miss mazel i'm like yeah here it's the best show ever i don't have time like what about you oh here's an amazing show don't have time like I'll get to it I will I'm not listen if this entices you there's a fight scene where a guy fights a bunch of naked lady clones it actually it actually I forget because there's been so many shows since that but that show was awesome I remember being at Defy when it first came out and everyone talked about it it just changes a lot like it's a very different type of show.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah. There's one actress in there that is straight up garbage. Like really bad. Call her out. But it really is like sci-fi witcher in a weird way. But I think it's,
Starting point is 00:55:59 I do think it's a, I do think it's a smarter show. It's interesting. There's a lot more to it. And I just think it's also just really cool. Like there's a lot that I thought was cool about it. It's a fun world that they built. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:10 This sort of like commentary on class warfare and stuff. Speaking of which, maybe too much of a jump, but does anyone know when the next Westworld is coming out? Because I love that. It's supposed to be this year. A lot. And it's got Jesse. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah. Mr. W, Mr. White, bitch mr white bitch no yo what's up with all these i didn't sign up droids bitch i didn't sign up for all these androids mr white no no you got yourself into this i'm getting out but before all this buy my mezcal buy my mezcal my mezcal bitch march 15th march that's so soon oh my god oh yeah y'all are never gonna see me again in March
Starting point is 00:56:47 2020s 2020 is the year 2020 is the year I can see clearly now 2020 and we didn't go to war with Iran yet well we don't know
Starting point is 00:56:55 when this is gonna come out that's true we don't every day is different nowadays also for your anime fans this year
Starting point is 00:57:04 we've got the Demon Slayer movie coming out. Promised Neverland Season 2. And in the fall, Attack on Titan. I believe the final season. Okay, I have to ask. Are anime movies ever good? Nope. But this one might be. Because from what I've heard,
Starting point is 00:57:20 well, I don't want to say anything. From what I've heard, this one has potential to be good. The Cowboy Bebop movie was really good but that's also kind of different because it's like it doesn't have they never have like
Starting point is 00:57:28 any bearing to the anime it's like a side story right the My Hero Academia one I watched very recently and like it was very corny but it's also the kind of thing where it's like
Starting point is 00:57:37 hey we're headed to this island where no one's allowed to have contact with the outside world because of specific reasons oh so we're not going to be able to talk to any of these people after the summer's done nope and then they show up and like all their
Starting point is 00:57:48 friends are there already it's like what are you guys doing here we got summer jobs now we're part of the story and it's just like they breeze right past it you're done that's it was crazy that's so that's and that's like the funny thing about not just anime but also um i think like japanese live action is like the shows the shows are so much more popular than the movies like like like movies aren't really like a big thing there as much like like movies have always been held to a higher standard than tv up until recently in the us but it seems like it's always like whenever it's like an anime movie, like it's a movie offshoot. It's just kind of like an extra thing to make money on. And it's not an essential part to the actual budget wise.
Starting point is 00:58:31 It's technically only like three episodes of a TV show. That's true. Like, it's just, it's not like it's different. It's just length. They'll often blow the budget on like one major fight scene. I will say,
Starting point is 00:58:42 I think it was last summer. I saw Dragon Ball Super Broly. I was invited out to an event and that that was awesome that was a lot of fun it was like a big-ass episode but the fight scenes were fantastic and didn't have that much of a bearing on any sort of story but it was still just like hey it was a grand old time but that death note live action movie though that start laser corn that saw that. That dude looks like Laser Corn. I also never saw it. Oh, apparently they're
Starting point is 00:59:07 doing more of a run manga wise and I think therefore anime of Death Note. I heard that that was announced, but also it's sort of just like, isn't that story all set?
Starting point is 00:59:16 Death Note also fit perfectly in the time it came out. Yeah. It came out of the peak of emo culture and that just, it just fits so hard.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Like it fit, Death Note sums up 2007. Like it really was the vibe. That was the vibe of 2007. It doesn't fit in 2020. God, I love Death Note. That was like the first. Death Note's incredible. That was like the first anime that I really watched aside from Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:59:41 It's not sold. It's not advertised as it should be. Cause it's kind of sold like they, the advertisements or the like showings of it are very like lean into like it's demonic and dark. I'm like, no, it's a detective story. It's the coolest detective story you're ever gonna watch. It's Sherlock.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's like the coolest version of Sherlock. Where you like the characters on both sides too. On the one hand, you're like, I want this person to get away with it. And on the other hand, you're like, get him, get him, find him out. Is this the moment? There's nothing more frustrating than when you watch a show
Starting point is 01:00:09 and the show is different than how it looks to a serious degree. And you try to explain that to people and they're like, ah, not that show. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not what you think it is. You need to watch it. Also, it had two seasons and it was done.
Starting point is 01:00:25 That's how anime, well, anime is either 26 episodes or 5,000 million episodes. We're looking at you, One Piece. But it was great that you can just like watch this thing, see a great story and then it ends in a satisfying way rather than just slowly burning out. Yeah, I respect that. It's the same thing with like reboots and live action stuff,
Starting point is 01:00:45 like Arrested Development, the first three seasons, I think it was one of the funniest, most well-crafted pieces of television ever. And when it was like, people were like, oh, it's coming back.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I was like, no, please no. It was so good when it was flying under the radar. And then season four was hot garbage. And then they made another one. It was also hot garbage. And I,
Starting point is 01:01:04 it's so sad because things become a parody of themselves. And it's like, one. It was also hot garbage. Yeah. And I, it's so sad because things become a parody of themselves. And it's like, tell us the story you want us to see. It became kind of meta, right? It became meta.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And also all the actors were unavailable to film with one another. So they were like, what if everybody has their own separate story? It's like, great. That's not what the show is.
Starting point is 01:01:19 It's dealing with a crazy messed up family forced to be stuck together in a situation. It's not even the same show. Nobody learned from Avatar Last Airbender. It's not even the same show. Nobody learned from Avatar Last Airbender. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Perfect three seasons. Perfect arc. Never saw it. You never watched Avatar Last Airbender? No. Bro. I don't know. That's the M. Night Shyamalan movie, right? No, no.
Starting point is 01:01:38 God damn it. No, that show holds the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah? It's great. Wouldn't people argue that's not anime? I'm not saying it's anime. I'm just saying it's a really great-
Starting point is 01:01:49 But Arrested Development is anime. Arrested Development is anime. It's the ultimate anime. You got all the tropes. But that is also why shows that get canceled are held to such a high degree because it's like they went out- Firefly.
Starting point is 01:01:59 They were great. Firefly. Firefly, beautiful. Well, Firefly had a movie that was better than the show. Serenity's dope. Is it? Oh, that movie's dope.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I saw it before I saw the show and I was like, that movie was incredible. And I saw it with my mom who doesn't like sci-fi stuff. And she's like, that was a really good movie. That's why it all boils down to story. It's like, yeah, the setting can change. Yeah, there can be, you can be in space, whatever. But like, let's just have some cool stories. That's why i feel you know
Starting point is 01:02:25 you know it's not going to be for everybody and i get sort of poo-pooed a lot for being like you talk about anime a lot but it's also like some of the stories that i've been able to experience are just so cool and i feel bad if someone is like completely writing it off to the point where they're definitely going to miss out on a cool story just because they're like no it's all like pokemon and you're like no it's just a cool. And they're not limited by what an actor can do or what CGI can do. You're just drawing stuff. Well, it's no different than how Mandalorian on Disney Plus
Starting point is 01:02:54 is based off of Akira Kurosawa movies. Like it's based off Japanese samurai movies. Yeah, some of them are. Some of them definitely feel that way. Yeah, or Westerns and that, but Westerns, a lot of American Westerns were inspired by. Was it called like Lone Wolf and Cub or something like that? Lone Wolf and Cub.
Starting point is 01:03:09 There's also like, there's a couple, oh, there's essentially a Seven Samurai episode of Mandalorian. Right. That episode was so pointless. Yeah, it was. But they had to fill space. Mandalorian was okay.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Just okay? That was just okay? I loved it. Did you watch, you watched all of it yep you even after that last episode you felt that last episode was awesome but overall overall I mean the way they made it was so that you didn't necessarily have to watch
Starting point is 01:03:34 every episode it felt like and they were just like so now he's gonna take a piece of all these other things that he did that have no connection and brings it all together for the last episode i think it's a preference thing because the same reason that you seem to be a little turned off by it i i loved that aspect because i i may have talked about this on pod
Starting point is 01:03:55 before so if i have i'm sorry but i enjoy star wars but i wouldn't say i'm like a diehard fan i don't get like mad when a movie comes out and it doesn't go where i want it to go but i've always been a little bit disappointed by it because the formula is like, we're going to start out on desert planet and we're going to need this thing. Oh, you need that person in that thing. You're going to have to go to swamp planet. All right, now let's go to swamp planet. Let's go to this thing.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And it ends up being so samey because they don't have much time to spend in each spot. So what I love about Mandalorian is like this episode takes place on swamp planet. What is there to explore on swamp planet? Oh, there's a village. What is daily life like in the village? Like I've always wanted to be like, go to the desert planet, but have them explore a temple. Have that be an entire movie, the temple that they find and put in space. And show the culture of it.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Show the culture of it. But when dude goes to the swamp planet and something happens and then he leaves swamp planet, it didn't change the story in any way. It didn't change. But that's how tv used to be like he just brings yoda there and he's like i can't keep baby yoda here all right here i go i'm off well nothing happened it did introduce him to some characters that need to come up later it also shows that you know they're you know someone might say you know why wouldn't he just drop off this person and have a safe life? And it's like, well, that is his first thought. Let's explore that.
Starting point is 01:05:08 And we as viewers got to have an interesting contained story. It also showed him, this is, I guess, a lot of spoilers at this point, but it also showed like, oh, he was maybe interested in some love and he doesn't get to have that. He doesn't get to have that normal life. Like he's tempted with-
Starting point is 01:05:20 Why are you making me like this show more, Damien? I don't know. Stop it. It's one of my favorite episodes. I viewed it very similar to like, to Witcher, where I'm like, this is just like a fun show. Like we've gotten to this point where there's, cause there's so much where we're like, we are ranking TV on such hardcore elements
Starting point is 01:05:37 and Breaking Bad was kind of the start of it where it's like, it's gotta have foreshadowing. It's gotta like all mean something, every single element of a TV show. Whereas like shows like Witcher and Mandalorian, I'm like, this is just awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Oh, that, why did that happen? Cause it's awesome. And I'm like, I'm totally fine with that being the reason. And I'm also just kind of stoked for us to be completely done with the Skywalker saga.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Cause every time a movie comes out, half of the world hates it with a passion. That's not what he would do. And like with Mandalorian, you can't have those opinions because it's all new characters that we can't have. So I'm like, let's please never touch on the Skywalker saga ever again and just make new
Starting point is 01:06:11 characters that everyone can just be down with. I love how angry people get about it. It blows my mind. Star Wars fans are so much angrier than I've ever seen football fans. Like, it's insane. It's nuts. And like, I can't seen football fans. Like it's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 It's nuts. And like, I don't really, I can't think of another fan base. It's like that. Cause like Star Trek fans are all kind of like very cool with all of Star Trek. And like, there's stuff that they'll be like,
Starting point is 01:06:34 oh yeah, that series was terrible, but you know, it's like, whatever. Like they're not that mad about it. Whereas Star Wars fans, holy God.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I feel like sometimes like there's, there's a little bit of pity there i think is maybe the right word where like you know if someone's toxic and going after one of the actors screw them i don't care like get them out of there i don't know to really love a thing so much that it like defines you but to also never be happy or satisfied it's like it's like pirates the caribbean's like we could eat and drink all we won't but it tends to ash in our mouths i'm like that sucks like is there any part of this thing that you love that you actually love yeah and i'm not like making fun of them i'm like that's just kind of legit sad i think it's also like a lot of these fans there's this feeling of like but i am
Starting point is 01:07:18 the real fan i read all the books i know all the lore sure so i know star wars and this is not star wars and it's like well but it is because somebody wrote it and then they filmed it and now it's star wars i try to like put myself in their shoes and like i love dark souls i love that series so if they made a dark souls tv show and instead of it being like all silent and somber, they had like a wise cracking, like almost Nathan Drake style, like, whoa, sorry, I had to drop in kind of character. I would really hate that.
Starting point is 01:07:54 But I also wouldn't be like, no, no, no, no, sir. It's not that, it's like, it's okay to be like, you know what? That's not for me. And it doesn't take away the aspect of this that I like. Yeah. You know, more like Or orange stout and smug. Am I right, losers?
Starting point is 01:08:09 To the three people in the comments. I just remembered I was a huge like Mass Effect fan. Oh, yeah. And then I saw on like Hulu or something, there was like a Mass Effect anime movie. Oh. And I tried watching it and it was hot fucking garbage. And then so I was just like, I don't need to watch this. Turn it off.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Yeah. And I haven't thought about it since. Yeah. I didn't like go attacking and say like, this is not real Mass Effect. You wouldn't do this. Exactly. It's just like, I was like, nope. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:40 No thanks. How about that, that it's not for you? And also like you see little kids at Star Wars land now getting lightsabers made for themselves it's for them it's always been kind of a corny series like han solo taps a stormtrooper and then like sneaks around like it's supposed to be a little bit tongue-in-cheek sometimes but you know and like look uh to call myself out like game of thrones was the thing that i was the biggest fan of. Sure. But it also wasn't like my day was ruined because Game of Thrones, the final season was just, it's not even the difference between Star Wars and Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I will say is there was stuff in Star Wars that like people were so mad about Last Jedi because of decisions that were made as opposed to them. Just clearly not caring. But that didn't mean that I'm like not a fan of it anymore. I'm just like, yeah, I can openly say I thought something sucked and not be like angry about it. Yeah, the conversations we had were like, well, what's really cool and what I
Starting point is 01:09:34 wish they would have shown was in the books, they sort of allude to this. And I thought that would have been a really cool storyline to see as opposed to like, this isn't real Game of Thrones. You don't really know the real thing like I do. I'm also not mad at people who liked it. Yeah. I'm just like, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I thought it, I just was like, oh man, that sucks. I wish it was better. I wish I liked it. Like, isn't that lucky that they get to like it, that they got to feel like that ending was satisfying? Cool, good for them. I guess the difference there too is we also still have the books that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I guess I will say Mass Effect Andromeda was a big letdown for me. I'd say that's more on the company than it is the product. That was a disappointment. But the parts that you're still a huge fan of are still there. Yeah, and I didn't go online and start trashing them. I'm like, I don't think this was a finished product. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Not many people set out to make something bad. And they're definitely not doing it to spite anyone. Yeah. And also with something as big as Star Wars, they have so many hands in that process. Well, they're probably making it. Probably what sucks is part of their process now is trying to avoid the hate,
Starting point is 01:10:37 which ends up causing them to make decisions that cause more hate. Yes. And I would also say that these movies now have to be made with an international audience in mind. So you're like where Star Wars was originally made by, you know, an American with American tastes,
Starting point is 01:10:55 movies now have to be made with international tastes in mind people that maybe care more about an action scene than a story. Not that I'm saying that non-Americans are dumb and they only like to see explosions. Damn. But action is a lot easier to translate to other countries than maybe dialogue.
Starting point is 01:11:18 There's also people, there's different things. Like I said, a lot of people like want the TV shows and movies to like, everything has to mean something. There got to be deeper it's like yeah but also it's also maybe just supposed to be entertaining like it's that tough balance and fun yeah it's that tough balance but also like my thought with all of it is like there's just so much content out there that i'm not gonna harp on one thing man there's just a million i've gotten in this loop again i find myself every year at some point where i'm i'll text dame and be man, I really want to like play a video game or watch a movie or something. I'm like, I don't know what to do. And I ended up not doing anything. So I'm like, there's too
Starting point is 01:11:50 many choices. I'm like, there's too much good stuff. There's been so many times that I've left my Netflix just like on and I've been on my phone and just like, I just don't watch anything. It happens a lot. I find it's always interesting what you gravitate toward. Cause we do have that conversation a lot where it's just like, you know, I think we kind of got spoiled by specifically Skyrim, things like that, where you could just get lost for hours and hours. We want that experience. So we'll check in and do that. But I'll, I'll say to you like, Hey, why don't you try this?
Starting point is 01:12:17 Or why don't you try that? And sometimes you don't, which is normal and fine. Sometimes you'll try something like six months later, you'll be like, so finally pick up persona 5 and i'll be like whoa and then other times i'll just casually drop like oh i heard a new good show is a vinland saga and then literally that night you were farther than i was it's just funny like it's just random yeah random yeah strange tangent uh damien you're looking a little swole bro oh thank you man what's up man. What's up with that? Well, I've just been making healthier choices. Even if I haven't had time to go to the gym, I've been like making a specific effort at home.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Like, all right, push-ups, sit-ups, dips, some squats. 100 push-ups. 100 sit-ups. Oh, yeah. One punch man. Why don't we do the one punch man workout? I would love that. Well, the weirdest thing about the one punch man,
Starting point is 01:13:01 so there's an anime or manga or whatever where this guy like is the strongest hero in the world. And he's depressed because of it because he can beat anything in one punch. And so he's just sad. Nothing's fun anymore. There's no challenge. But the reason he got that way is he does 100 pushups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats, and then a 10K run. Isn't the 10K run kind of a big leap between the others?
Starting point is 01:13:22 10K runs actually not. Six miles. It's not that crazy. 6.2 miles. Everything else is like, it almost sounds like a joke. Like, oh, 100 push-ups, that's it. Oh, 100 sit-ups, that's it.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Then a 10K run is just like, oh, that's going to take some time. Yeah. I don't know. But 100 push-ups is a lot for a lot of people. 100 push-ups is quite a lot. Yeah. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:13:39 100 sit-ups is easy. For normal people. No, to me, it's the perfect workout because it's enough to be like, yeah, you're someone who's getting in shape. Not enough to be like, I'm going to become a normal. It's a, no, it's to me, it's the perfect workout. Cause it's like, it's enough to be like, yeah, you're someone who's getting in shape. Not enough to be like, I'm going to become a superhero.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Like it's not Batman's workout routine. Have you tried it? Shane? No. I mean, so you don't know we could do it. Let's do it. It's definitely,
Starting point is 01:13:58 it's definitely a workout. If you're training for a half marathon. Yeah. Like that's a solid workout. If you're like, yeah, I'm going to do a half marathon in a couple of months. Like,
Starting point is 01:14:04 okay, do that. But that's, that's what's funny like, yeah, I'm going to do a half marathon in a couple of months. Like, okay, do that. But that's what's funny about it. That's how he became the strongest human on the planet. I say we just do this forever and see how wacky
Starting point is 01:14:12 our bodies look. Yeah. You wouldn't look wacky. You'd just be like in good shape. But you'd have very specific, like your back wouldn't have
Starting point is 01:14:19 any sort of definition. You would be very like built in. You'd want to add a hundred pull-ups to it. Yeah. But even pull-ups, like, you know, it does does this motion but like there's no like forward pulling yeah no it's not a complete workout it's not anyway thank you um been making healthier choices been exercising i'm down i think technically 10 pounds i think i said that before but my scale was not on
Starting point is 01:14:37 a thank you my scale was not on a proper surface so that was a problem before but i think i'm down to 196 it went down below the 200 mark. Yeah. Which is good for me. If I could get to like 186, I'll be happy. Yeah. Then yeah. And then I'll just continue building from there.
Starting point is 01:14:52 But for me, it's more about being healthy as opposed to the number, but it's nice to know that like, I can see that number and be like, oh, there is a difference. The things I have done. A goalpost. A goalpost. Yeah. Yeah. I want to gain weight.
Starting point is 01:15:04 That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I want to gain some. That's awesome. Yeah? Yeah. Bulking season? I want to gain some muscle. Nice. Where? I don't know. Just everywhere. One pec. I want to gain like 10 pounds, I think. 10 pounds of muscle? I'd love to hit 180. You could do that easy. Where are you going to fit that muscle? Where is it going?
Starting point is 01:15:17 There's plenty of places. One pec. Both my buttocks. Singular pec. And the other one buttocks. Way thicker. Can you just work the what is the delts yeah what is this right here i forget trapezius just work your trapezius yeah get that swallow neck um can i sing for you i want to do a uh yeah because i want to do that because i want to do a spartan race this year okay so i the as we're filming this the podcast where we had said that originally uh just came out so that gives you a bit of a timeline and so a lot of people were saying you know whoa the spartan race is the
Starting point is 01:15:48 as hard as they come like we were talking about tough mutter and stuff like that but some people in the comments were like no spartan race is like the hard one like it's a lot of military exercises i think we do wes and wes and mari have done it yeah but they're both very fit people wes is pretty in shape we have more months to get into it. I don't know, man. I got bronchitis. I want to go to bed. I'm gonna do it. Okay. I'm gonna do it. Kevin's gonna do it. I'll join you.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Alright. We have time. We have time to train. We have time to do the one punch workout. Is there one that starts like by my house? And also, can I use a vehicle to win the race? Dude, if you're getting into shape, you can you can do it i'm being a sassy boy i want to know so so the san diego one i'm not saying this is what we're doing it's a 5k with 20 obstacles that's not that's not bad at all 5k there's got to be a 10 easy but i think it's i think if you fail an obstacle we gotta do something
Starting point is 01:16:42 crazy no thing no not at all i've heard like if you fail an obstacle, they make you do something crazy. No. That's the thing. No, not at all. I've heard like if you fail an obstacle, you have to do like a bunch of things. How would they be keeping track? There's thousands of people doing it. Like a guy shows up, he's just like, all right, you didn't climb up the wall. Now you got to kiss me. And you're like, whoa, I don't know about that. He's just like, I definitely work for this race.
Starting point is 01:16:59 I'm Mr. Spartan. I'm Mr. Spartan. I'd want to do something more challenging. How about that? Okay. How about this one? New Jersey. This one's the Tri-State Jersey Ultra and Beast Weekend.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Okay. The Ultra. Oh God. Is a 50K. Well, okay. 60 obstacles. This is. Fastest time, seven hours.
Starting point is 01:17:19 That's an Ironman competition. Yeah, I'm out. That's crazy. All right, all right, fine, fine. We'll just do the Beast. I'm talking like, I'd love to find like a 10 mile. I'd love to find like a 10 mile. Sure, if the beast is a half marathon. 10 mile.
Starting point is 01:17:31 10 mile? Like a half marathon, but with obstacles would be dope. That's very doable. Does anybody else chafe when they run? And the sound of your thighs scraping together is so loud, it hurts your ears. You're going to be in such good shape by then, it won't happen. And then there's sparks flying everywhere. Beast is a half marathon with 30 obstacles.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Doable. Three hours fastest time. Yeah, that's doable. Fastest time, three hours? Yeah, that's totally doable. Think about how awesome you'd feel once you did that. I'd feel great, but I also feel pressure. Like I'm gonna be the one that everyone's like,
Starting point is 01:18:01 you good back there? And I'm like, yeah, I'm good. You have months to like put yourself like, as we are going on tour and we're going to be the one that everyone's like, you good back there? And I'm like, yeah, I'm good. You have months to like put yourself like as we are going on tour and we're going to Australia, this would be in, we'd have months after Australia. These obstacles have to be tough. Cause I did, cause this is a half marathon. I did the marathon in three hours and 28 minutes.
Starting point is 01:18:19 So these obstacles are tough. Well, so I know also the point of Spartan races is that you do an obstacle and then you turn back and you help people. You, none of the obstacles are singular obstacles. They are teamwork obstacles. So you'll like climb up a wall because people helped you get up the wall. Then you're supposed to turn back and help other people get up the wall.
Starting point is 01:18:37 So you're, you are taking your time at these obstacles because it's, it's not that it's like, oh, it took forever to get up that wall. It's like, no, I stayed for 15 minutes and helped people. Interesting. Okay, so the super is 10K, 25 obstacles, 80 minutes fastest time. Okay, we can do that one. If we can get everyone on board,
Starting point is 01:18:55 whatever we get the most people. Wow, I don't wanna drag nobody down. No, cause there's other people. I want us to get the biggest Smosh team to do this. So we're all together. I mean, that's a little over six miles. That's... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:06 That sounds to me like an achievable goal. Also, if we make a video out of it... Well, there you go. Then that's easier to film. That's true. Yeah. We've got to have like one incredibly like willing camera person to also carry a camera rig and jog alongside us like a Kevin.
Starting point is 01:19:22 I do at some point want to run a half marathon though. Let's do it. I would like to do that at some point. It's not bad. Yeah, it's definitely doable. I trained for one once and I was doing it and the person that I was running it with couldn't finish it.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And I was like, okay, I'll stop with them. But I was, we were halfway through and I was like, I was good. I was like, I could have finished that so well. But I was like, no, I'm not gonna do that. I did one that went along the beach. I saw dolphins. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And the race ended with tacos and beer. That's super great. I would probably bomb, but that sounds cool. Not if you're trained, not if you're trained, man. I took two of my friends and one of them was not prepared and he hated it. He was so pissed. My brother and my sister-in-law, this was like 15 years ago.
Starting point is 01:20:11 She's a runner and she runs all the time. And so she trained for this half marathon and my brother did not train for it. And last minute was like, yeah, I'm going to do it too. And they get to the final stretch and he's like, I'm not going to let her beat me. He just kicks past her. And he pushes it and he like beat her at the last second. But then he was bedridden for a week and she was fine. She was fine.
Starting point is 01:20:33 No, he just didn't train for it. So his muscles weren't prepared for it. So he destroyed his ego, destroyed his body. All right. So we'll look for a Spartan race type race to do. We're doing it. We're going to all get on board. You're going to be so cut by then.
Starting point is 01:20:49 2020 Smosh crew gets absolutely jacked. Yeah. We're becoming titans this year. We're going to be ripped comedians. We're going to be all as buff as possible. We're going to be a bunch of Joe Rogans. Yeah. Jamie, pull that up. We're going to be a bunch of Joe Rogans. Jimmy, pull that up.
Starting point is 01:21:06 We're going to have Elon Musk on here. Guys, we've got to start hunting elk tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. Bow hunting. I ate camel the other day. What? We've got to finish this pod. You bring this up now at the end of the pod.
Starting point is 01:21:21 We'll get to this next time because I want to hear about this. Damien ate a camel. Damien ate a camel. Some camel. Some camel. A whole camel. That's a lot of camel. We'll get to that next time. Bye. Thank you guys so much. We got some new merch in the store, guys. Check it out. Smosh.store.
Starting point is 01:21:38 None of us are wearing it, so you gotta go there to find out what it is. It's really cool. Damien and Shane, thank you so much for coming on here. Bros like we. Bros like we. Bros like we. Bros like we.
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