Smosh Mouth - S2: #52 - Destigmatizing our Mental Illnesses

Episode Date: February 26, 2020

Damien, Keith, and Shredditor Kevin Rygg talk about the many ways that their struggles with mental illnesses have impacted their lives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It was also me just sort of falling on my sword and being like, I don't want to make this a big deal. So, hey, everyone, I'm weird with touch. Will that be enough for you to not grab my ass at a workplace? I had always dealt with ADHD as myself and friends, not with a relationship. And I was like in bed researching it. And it was like column for column, exactly how we both felt.

And we just cried. We just held each other and cried. Some of the things that we say to one another, like certain things that just stick. I'm like, mom used to call us ugly. She said, I never said that. I said, y'all were funny looking. Ori, we going to Australia?

Or north? No, that's not. I'm gonna eat a koala looking. Ori, we going to Australia? Or Norway? No, that's not. I'm going to eat a koala. No, you can't. You can't eat koalas? I'm going to try my beast. This is crazy. This is weird being on this side.

I feel weirdly naked because I can usually stare at all the little levels. You can't check yourself. You just got to let go and enjoy. Am I? Hey, future me, am I okay? Am I speaking right? Yes, this is future kevin hello everybody and welcome to yet another smosh cast uh hosting for the first time ever what is going on i just got wrapped up in the jail i say we leave it in come on joining us uh as the host for the first time ever is me damien haas and the man

that asked me to put on a soulful soulful voice for the smash cast this is entirely his fault keith leake jr come on indeed come on oh come on come on come on come on it's come on it's like smash bros like come on yeah star fox no it's like come on come It's like, come on. Yeah, Star Fox. No, it's like, come on. Come on. Tell me. Say something. Just say something generally. Birthday cake should be illegal. Come on. Another thing. Okay.

Another thing. Voting is important. Come on. One more. The birds work for the bourgeoisie. Come on. There we go. Yeah.

That's a come on right there. Let's talk about that. Speaking of talking about that, joining us for the first time today on this side of the camera is Kevin Rigg. Yes. Hello. Hi, Kevin. Come on right there. Let's talk about that. Speaking of talking about that, joining us for the first time today on this side of the camera is Kevin Rigg. Yes. Hello. Hi, Kevin. Come on.

No, I didn't do it right. Come on. That's a tough one. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Yeah, it's crazy being on this side of everything at this point.

I mean, I have my own camera, so you can usually see me kind of. A little bit. You're laughing. But you're known as the Shredditor. Yes. You produce, you edit. Yes. Where's the sh part come from? shredditor. You produce, you edit. Yes. Where's the sh part come from?

It's the shoot. Oh, you shoot. I get behind the camera too. So I shoot, produce, edit. Nice. Yeah. Come on. It sounds a little less and like not as bad as saying predator in today's.

Yeah. You can't be called a predator. Because that is the actual term. It is the actual title. If you look at my paperwork, it says predator. So legally, I am a Predator. No, don't come on. Don't come on.

That's why I go as the Shredditor. I just don't feel as dirty. Okay, yeah. I'm a Ninja Turtles villain. Yeah, I was about to say, like, oh, no, Shredditor's attacking. After pizza, we should stop it. I actually watched the Ninja Turtles, but not the one where they were like in like costumes, like from like an early 90s.

I had that on VHS. I had that too. And I would always look for it. And then they started doing that animated like one. And that was a little, I didn't like that. So I just kind of let them go. Really? Yeah.

They were my thing for a long time. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I grew up with very specific cartoons because I lived in Germany for the first like few years of my life. So I think the things that were accessible there

on American TV were Sonic the Hedgehog, Ninja Turtles, and I had Mega Man on the Game Boy. So those were the big three for me at that time. Nice. Come on. Come on indeed. Come on. Oh, I did.

Sorry. Sorry. I like this. So this is a new catchphrase for you. Come on. Oh, yes indeed so like my friend like she came up with it i was saying some stuff and it was like years ago she was like come on and it was like you know almost like you're in church and you're just like giving

you know somebody some like you know a little like no it's definitely a hype up yeah but i totally stole it and it is mine now so i came up with come on so if you guys like start saying come on definitely give me my credit what uh spurred that change for you if she made it up years ago why now because she does she's not saying it and this is the thing when you let things go like that something that should be said see the reason i didn't like say it earlier is because i thought it was hers i thought it was her copyright yeah exactly exactly so now it's mine so come on come on with the questions there you go that's perfect i mean hey, this could be huge for you. There are situations of like major websites not renewing in time.

Someone snags that domain. They sell it back to them. If she ever wants to say that again, you're going to be rich. Come on. Hey, y'all heard? What do you hear me do? We are like so many come ons in and we are maybe. Come ons ins.

Come ons. That actually made me burp processing that made me go like something had to come out of my body to let that information in Kevin do you have any catchphrases? I don't think I do I don't know I don't monitor myself

that often I'm not in front of the camera as much so I don't get to be like oh yeah there's my catchphrase there's me doing that thing I do like a punchy thing yeah I do that too though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's okay. So it's not, it's mine. No, it's like you're a bully.

Yeah. No, I'm a bully. You're a bully. No, no, no. It's how I hype myself up. If I'm going to do like a workout, if I'm going to do something, like I got to do it. I'm like an anime character. Yeah.

It's me like focusing my chakra. And so it's usually my like amp up. You like grin on one side of your mouth. Like, let's do it. Yeah, exactly. Punch the hand. What color chakra is that? Like a purple. Like, let's do it. Yeah, exactly. Punch the hand. What color chakra is that? Like a purple.

Ooh, like a deep purple. Like a royal purple. Yes. Like a royal purple. Like the purple dye made by the ancient Phoenicians for their royalty. Could you say that with the soulful voice that we were talking about? Like the purple dye made by the ancient Phoenicians for their royalty. Come on.

Come on indeed. That's like some ear candy right there. Oh your biscuits No, no, we're on a different set completely You do have a catchphrase though usually when you enter the office You just very loudly like do like one of those power stands and you go hey, baby Baby Not gonna be supportive of that We were gonna have to talk about being supportive of your come on come on come on. Yeah, come on. Okay, come on Kevin said you sound like a fighting game character, and I would have to agree. I do?

Smash Bros or otherwise. When you say, come on, that kind of deal. Could you set me up with some people? Because I know you do some fighting games. I would love to. I have to work on that for myself first, my friend. I have not done any fighting games. I want to so bad.

That's selfish. That's not a come on. That is called selfishness. I just asked you for help you say i'm trying to help myself well i can't help you until i help myself i can't make those connections if i don't have them come on yeah i'll give you that yeah i haven't done any fighting games i've only done um i've done a lot of like shooting games i haven't done like any rpgs what's your favorite one that you've done uh definitely uh fortnite i'm in uh they have two modes the

battle royale one which is like you like Ninja and all them playing that. And then there's Save the World, which is like the cooperative story mode. You did like the demon guy, right? Was that you? I did lots of things. I did a werewolf, but my main dude is named Dennis. And he's been in the game for like years. Like I've been going in every other month or every month for like years, even before Smosh.

And it's just so much fun. He's like fun to play because he's dumb as hell but has these just like little nuggets of wisdom every once in a while and the dude who writes the game is actually so so smart and so funny so i don't know i i love playing that character yeah yeah it's fun do it do it do a do a dennis voice um this is my dennis voice and i know that we talked about me not going outside, but also I'm surrounded and I need help. Like it's everything he says is very like metered and measured and he's just, yeah.

That's really fun. That's so cool. I don't play Fortnite enough. So it's a save the world or? Yeah, it's save the world. The funny thing is I like played the game originally when it was out on beta before Battle Royale was even a thing.

And I don't think I ever got to hear my character at that point. Like I saw my character's face and I was like, oh, I'm going to be like rescuing him soon. But it was like kind of far into the game. But now he's like in every single situation. So if I went back and restarted my account and like got there, I don't know.

I don't think I've ever heard myself in a game just randomly. Oh no. When recording for Smosh one time, Grand Theft Auto. That's so cool. I'm a cop. You're a randomly. Oh, no. When recording for Smosh one time, Grand Theft Auto. That's so cool. I'm a cop. You're a cop. Uh-uh.

Yeah, I was a mean guy, too. I was a big old mean man. Okay, okay, okay. Big old mean man. Big old mean man. Yeah. But anyway, me, me, me, me, me. Yeah, yeah.

No, we're all about it. Yeah. Tell us more. Oh, so Damien, so you just went on tour. Please tell me about that. Oh, it was so much fun. It was a great experience. We knew we were going to be exhausted from doing that,

but it was very well worth it. We did five cities in a week, which was insane. That is wild. I saw that, like looking at that schedule, I was like, oh, cool. Five cities. They're going to hit it. Like they got, you know, a couple of weeks to do it. And I saw the schedule.

It was like city, city, city, rest, city, city. And I was like, you guys. The Beyonce can do it. i saw the schedule was like city city city rest city city and i was like you guys the beyonce can do it so can you that's what beyonce is like the pinnacle of humanity well i mean y'all did some beyonce shit well thank you kudos to y'all we held a bayonce no but it was great uh i think the one challenge for me Bye, bye, abeyance. There he goes, there he goes. Keith just walked out angrily. That was- Oh, bye Keith. Bye. No, but it was great. I think the one challenge for me was sleeping on the bus.

I am- You usually like your alone time too and stuff, right? I do, but that wasn't so tough for me to be honest. I thought that would be the thing. Got you. And it really wasn't. It was just a matter of like, the bunks were stacked three high. Top bunk is usually the least desirable, but I wanted it because it didn't a matter of like uh the the bunks were stacked three high top bunk is usually

the least desirable but i wanted it because it didn't really matter to me and i like knew that other people would not want it but like you could feel every bit of the motion if you just hit like a bumpy part in the road like your bed is vibrating and shaking and there's no lip on the uh bed to like stop you from falling out so like you're like subconsciously flexing your core all night to try to like not flip over you got shredded abs now oh yeah they're just hidden behind hidden behind a bunch of awesomeness you know yeah yes yes my winter weight that is extending till spring but yeah it was uh it was i'm also a little bit claustrophobic so i had some like panic attacky kind of situations yeah no thank

you not fun it looked and felt like a coffin. I saw pictures of it. That was terrifying. I'm like, I'm not like quite as claustrophobic, but I get like really weird if I can't move. Exactly. If I can't move, if I'm like stuck, I'm like not scared of small spaces. You put me in a small space, but let me move.

I'm fine. Right. But you tie me up or you bunch me. Yeah. So that's exactly what it was. It's exactly what it was. Cause I kept having these thoughts of like, I'm fine in a small space

until I have the thought of like, you're here and you can't not be here. Like, so to remedy that, there were these like soundproof curtains that were in front of every bed that, you know, you could pull closed. So I had to like sleep with mine half open with my hand off my bed to be like,

look, there's more of a space that you can go into at any time. Trigger warning for anybody with claustrophobia. Oh yeah i didn't know i had any like issues with that but i'm definitely getting a little anxiety really for sure for sure getting a little bit starting to sweat is that something you often often deal with just like anxiety yeah actually yes um believe it or not so um i hate to get like pressure to do stuff. If I say no, that means no. Like, yeah, I'm one of those people like you can't like sway me. I won't change like what I'm thinking. Like, you know what I mean? I'll like give it a i'm not in like the right you know like uh mental space to do it right now no man just come on just like bro like i need somebody there like no no man i just don't really want to i like i'm not feeling it i know if i come and hang out with you like i'm gonna like have a bad i'm gonna be like the just i'm gonna make it

a bad time yeah i'm gonna make it i'm gonna make it a down time. Yeah, I'm going to make it a down situation. Just come on. Oh, my God. So now I'm starting to get anxiety. So my heart is starting to beat. I'm starting to sweat. I'm starting to pace a little bit. And then I'll just continue to get pressed. And I mean, I'll still say no.

But by the time I'm saying no, now I'm being like an asshole. And now I'm upset. But I'm shaking up because i shouldn't be as shaken as i am but like i go there because like i i'm saying doing all that i can to let you know that this is the way that it's gonna go and you're not taking my word for it and it like that frustrates me and it gives me anxiety to like the umpteenth degree i can't do like even talking about it right now i'm starting to yeah yeah i feel like it's a thing like i can't social anxiety like i can't do like even talking about it right now i'm starting to get yeah yeah like it's a thing like i can't social anxiety like i can usually be in like big crowds i can like walk through you know what i mean i'd be like hey be the life of the party right like when it's

like a few people that i don't know or it's like a small group like you guys are fine like whatever but when it's like people that i don't know i'm like on the inside i am losing it i feel that i'm losing it one time i went to meet up with my friends and i was in the my uber of course and i'm in the back shell and these are friends that i hang with all the time like weekly and i'm just like going through it i'm like hold on why am i starting to get anxiety like what's going on like what's going on and this is the first time i really acknowledged it for what it was because i'm like on my way and i'm like like, you know, they're like, yo, Keith, come. They're so excited to see me.

Like, I'm so excited to see them. You know what I mean? I think at this point, just like a year or so ago, and we had been filming, you know, for like a couple of days. And it was like the last day. So I went and hung out. And I'm just in the back of this Uber, just like starting to get worked up. And I'm like, damn, like, what did I do? Like, what's going on?

Like, why? Like, is there a chemical imbalance going on? What's going on? And then I got there and it kind of went away, but it didn't go away the way that I thought it would. It was so weird. Like, it was so weird. And I'm just like, why am I doing this? Like, I see you guys like enough all the time.

There's no reason I should have this right now. So then it started like this. It makes me question myself, like, what's really going on? Like, what's the root of it, you know? If it's a flat or a squeal, a wobble or peel, your tread's worn down or you need a new wheel, wherever you go, you can get it from our tread experts. Toyo's open country family of tires will get you through tough weather in a variety of terrains. Until May 31st, save up to $100 in rebates on select Toyo tires.

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That's an interesting thing to bring up. If I may ask a question about that. If you are so like set in your answer of like, no, I'm not going to do this thing. No, I'm not going to do that tonight. Obviously, it's annoying when someone keeps pressing you. But do you think the anxiety starts to kick in? Is there like a pressure because you don't want to disappoint someone or how they're going to view you for not? Because if their feelings aren't taken into consideration, you truly don't care what they think.

And you're just saying no over and over again. It sounds like you would otherwise be pretty set. I mean, I want to be there for my friends. You know what I mean? They're there for me, you know. And like, honestly, I'm the type of person if I'm like, yo, come on and let's do something. My friends are going to do it with me. Sure. But I'm not always like that.

But it's because of like how I know how I operate and how I move, you know, and how I maneuver. Like what you guys get to see of me is not Keith all the time. The people that really know me, like that really, really know me, know that I'll be in a corner by myself underneath the table. Don't bother me. You know what I mean? I'll come out and like talk to you when I want to, you know? But at the same time, I'm still like approachable. I'm not like, but I prefer not to be in it like that, you know?

I can relate to that very well. I have dreams all the time that are sort of like, there's a party going on in a place where I live, but I'm not downstairs at the party. I'm upstairs in like a really cool room and I can just hear the music and hear the people. And it's like, it's nice. It's comforting.

It's like, I don't necessarily want to be down there, but it's nice to know that everyone's here. That's dope. I like that. Isn't that interesting? I feel like I can relate to you. I'm on the same page with you like that. Like I could be in like a party setting or like in another room and hearing it going off. I'm cool.

But like when people start to come in i might act sleep yeah yeah i might act sleep i might be like okay as soon as the door closes i'm on my phone yep is it like okay cool is it like a social battery kind of thing like you have like when you go to those events or those moments you have like a little bit of time when you're like cool with it like you're like i'm here it's cool and then it like drains quicker like because i know a lot of people have like a social battery so like some people like i i'm like weirdly i can just go all night with my social battery you definitely seem more like the life of the party for sure yeah i can go but i i get my point too i'll hit my point and

i'll just know like cool i'm done like my social battery's drained i'm gonna go home and it just depends on you know mood and day and stuff but some people don't have as intense, like how you're saying, like with the like being nearby, but not directly in it. Right. Like that's kind of part of that, too. So is that are you feeling like that? Like you have like a like a social barrier. Well, this is the thing.

If I know I'm getting into something, I'll turn it on and then almost forget sometimes also that I was like not like comfortable. And then I'll start making people laugh and i'll get that crowd going i'm like okay cool it's not so bad i got a damn crowd like it's almost like a show sometimes and like that's what i try to pull back away from because i'll find myself getting there and i want to be like authentic you know what i mean it sounds exhausting if you feel like it's so exhausting it's so exhausting and i just come on and i'll just and i don't know like sometimes i like i kill it and then there's other times where it's just like okay hey everybody how

you doing okay gotta go oh yeah yeah yeah ha ha ha bye so even when you're having fun it sounds like there's a lot of pressure sometimes sometimes it depends on the circumstances it depends on the people that i don't know that are in the room. It depends on who I'm meeting for the first time. It depends if I'm in the mood to talk. I'm so, I don't want to say complicated, but I'm complicated, guys. Tell me if this is a scenario you relate to. You're going to hang out one-on-one with one friend

and you're comfortable to do it. And then they check their phone and they go, Yo, Jared and Bennifer want to come over. And also they want to bring their friend kyle and you're like it's the worst feeling bro come on yeah no dead ass i hate that so i have this one oh really come on i'm so opposite really no i'm like if it's like me and a buddy one-on-one we're hanging out and like i feel like we reach that point and then he's like yo hey i got some friends want to hang out i'm like yo let's do it it's wired differently so like it could be even for me i'm the type i have this one friend that he'll invite some like people like whether it be his cousins it'll be like a group of people you know but then he'll like come over and be like

yo i'm inviting so and so and so and so i'm like bro this is not even that type of crowd yeah like why would you do that now i want to go home and I can't because I'm the asshole. Oh, hold on. I want to go home and I am going to go home. Look, peace out. Come on. But you're total opposite. Yes, completely. So are you the person that just gets stoked when new people are invited?

Are you the one that says, you know what? This party needs more people and you are the inviter. Like, are you an organizer? Do you like to put things together? Yeah. Yeah. I'm an organizer of that kind of stuff. I love putting that stuff together.

I love being just constantly, it's not even like center of the attention. I find more entertainment when a party builds, when people are like having fun and making sure everybody's having fun. But see, we need people like you because otherwise we wouldn't get out of the house ever. There wouldn't be events without folks like yourself.

I still get out of the house. It's just on my terms. Right. That's the thing the thing i don't know it's so messed up because like i've had certain friends that have like pulled me out of my comfort zone but at the same time my comfort zone is my comfort zone so it's ah sounds so terrible but it's it's on my time it's on my time how i like when i go out who i go out with who i hang out with it's like on my time you are not terrible for setting boundaries correct i think that's part of the pressure that at least for myself i feel like if i have to say like i need a mean night like you don't always have to have an excuse for why you can't hang out it's like guess what i just don't want to today come on that's yeah

right yeah matthew scott who's a good friend of mine who you guys know you know as well and he's been here a few times now uh hi matthew scott way back in the day when shane and i weren't so random we had a situation we were like oh uh shane and sterling and i are gonna go do this matthew scott do you want to come and he just went no and then just walked away and it was like that was the first time i'd ever experienced someone like you don't have to have an excuse you don't have to be like oh tuesday no i can't it was. And I've learned from it. It's like, you can do that.

And I don't think less of him. He's awesome. But okay, see, I'm so down for that. And if somebody does that, like, I'm down for that. But like, just imagine having a friend who pressures you. Who presses you. That sucks. That's the angle that I never hit on that.

I've never felt pressured by you. It's a fine balance, too. It's like, hey, you want to come hang out? Nah, it's cool. Don't even worry about it, man. We got another time. I'm not even, I'm not angry. I'll not angry you're not you're not ruining my day like my it would be fun to hang out with you but i'm not hinging my emotions off of you showing up oh see that's i think me and some i got some like toxic ass friends i mean in the best way like

they're my peoples these are my peoples but like there's some toxicity going on that we must relieve have you ever had a conversation about that with them? Hell yeah, I just had to tell them the other day. I said, don't do this no more. And they was like, no, honestly, I was like, it came out of nowhere. And it was just a little bit of, I seen something happen. I said, yo, please don't ask me for this anymore. And they were like, yo, they were like, I like, what's wrong?

And I'm like, please. I said, you do this all the time. Don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this. And I said, I know you're thinking i'm gonna be upset like i know you think i'm upset and i'm being like like mean but i said i know like but you being petty is like fuck yeah you're gonna like not want to talk to me but i'm just letting you know just don't do this out of respect because like i feel so much pressure right no no means no honestly this is the thing it drives me nuts

because i let people know how I want to be treated. You know what I mean? I do that in all of my friendships. And sometimes it's harder because people have their own like things that they want. You know, it's like, yo, no, get the out of my face. Yeah. Your time is your time. It's not theirs. And I think if you communicate that honestly, come on, come on, come on.

I think if you communicate that honestly and then someone still isn't, you know, respecting that, that's when it's an issue. So I should beat their ass. Yes, that's what I'm getting to in this conversation. Come on. Keith, I got your back on this one. For real? Yeah, I got your back.

Kevin, you're definitely a ride or die. I could like, no joke, I could see you doing that. You're one of my best buddies. I don't know if you knew that. Thank you. Hold on, you guys went to like, where'd you guys go together? We went to Japan. Japan, yeah. I don't know if you knew that. Hold on. You guys went to like, where'd you guys go together? Went to Japan. Japan.

Yeah. Like who does that? Who just packs up and go to Japan for like a couple weeks too, right? Well, I mean, my wife was there too. Lacey was there. Hi, Lacey. Hi, Lacey. Hi.

Yeah. It was a situation where like Shane and I had gone to Japan the previous year and I was like, I want to do that again. Shane, what do you think? And he's like, well, it's going to be tough with, you know, Smosh filming and I've got the Goldbergs. I just don't know when it's going to happen. And I was just like, oh, that's okay. And he's like, yeah, I also kind of want to like maybe try somewhere else this year. We've already done Japan. I'm like, that's going to be tough with, you know, Smosh filming and I've got the Goldbergs. I just don't know when it's going to happen. And I was just like, oh, that's okay.

And he's like, yeah, I also kind of want to like maybe try somewhere else this year. We've already done Japan. I'm like, that's fair. I still really want to go though. And then I like literally that day went up to Kevin and I was just like, hey, do you want to go to Japan? And he's like, hell yeah.

Let me just make sure it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. Yeah. That's plane tickets right now. I was like, all right, let's get these plane tickets. Straight up did it. And then like I go home that night.

I'm like, oh, shit. No, this is happening. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, wow. We're doing this. I got tickets. Yeah.

It was so much fun. The adventures were crazy. Absolutely. And then like you went off and you did your thing and got lost in the mountain. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a fun thing. I don't know if I ever talked about that on the podcast.

But basically, we started out together in Osaka. And that was a city that neither of us had been to. And it was fun. We did that for a couple of days, but I started, you know, looking around Osaka and I was like, man, I didn't know anything about Osaka. And mentally in my mind, I was thinking it was more like Kyoto. I had a different, that was the same image I had too.

I was like, kind of, I went to Osaka and I was like, this is cool, but like, I thought there was going to be something different. Yeah, I thought it was going to be rural basically. And like with a lot of classic structures, but it was sort of the equivalent was like, this is cool. But like, I thought there was going to be something different. Yeah. I thought it was going to be rural basically. And like with a lot of classic structures, but it was sort of the equivalent of like, oh, I've done Tokyo before, New York. Why don't I go do Osaka, Chicago?

And it was like, it's literally like, oh, another big city. Just on the other side of Japan. Like I'm not- That takoyaki though. Let's talk about that. Ooh, they're octopus hush puppies. Oh, okay. I'm like, what's in that? And these guys added like savory,

like rice krispies on top. So good. But after like three days, I was like, you know what? I want that rural experience. And you had already done Kyoto. So I was like, kind of, I think I'm just going to go do my own thing for like a week.

And so hopped on a train, went to Kyoto, found a hotel that was like nice, but not well-known. So it was still bone cheap. And yeah, just made my way for a week and got lost on a mountain, Fushinari Shrine, I think it was.

Did you have two phones on you? Because I remember I was texting you during the moment that it was going on. And like- One was a burner. One for the plug and one for the load. Come on. Sorry, I didn't mean to just call you out like that

on the podcast. Oh, you trapped it. There was one that came with the hotel room as like a pocket Wi-Fi. In Japan, you got to have like pocket Wi the podcast. Oh, we tried that. There was one that came with the hotel room is like a pocket Wi-Fi. In Japan, you got to have like pocket Wi-Fi. Unless you have T-Mobile. So like you actually have this like cell service Wi-Fi that you just

take around with you or another cell phone that you use a hotspot, but that's the best way to travel. So yeah, I got kind of lost on a mountain, but even that was fun. I was legitimately, I was like a worried like, I was like a worried bud because I was like, I was like at home. I was in the bed. Like, because we went, we went over towards Mount Fuji when he was doing that.

So I was like in bed with Lacey and I'm just like on my phone. I'm like, you think he's okay? She's like, she's like, I'm sure he's fine. It's totally fine. But I'm like, he hasn't messaged me back in like an hour. And he said he was on a mountain and it's getting dark and he only had a flashlight and two phones. Hold on, what?

No, no, no, no. It's not that bad. So no, no, no. That sounds terrible. So no, no, that sounds terrible. No, no, no. Imagine me, I'm like, Damien, are you okay? Damien, and then he texts me. He's like, man, it was fun.

I got, you know, this and that. And I was like, okay. Well, first of all, first of all, Japan is the safest place in the flipping world. True. To, it was like a big tourist area that like, it's the, ever seen like a bunch of orange gates in like people's Japan photos.

Yeah. The like thousand orange like gates that people just walk through. Anyway, Fushimi no Arashiro. I was there. Yeah, you get it. Yeah. So it's like a big tourist spot

and not everybody goes like to the top and it was like quite the hike to get there, but there's a path. There's like a path to do it. I'm not like in the wilderness finding my way through this mountain. At the only point I ever got like kind of nervous, I was like, oh man, it's getting kind of dark. Am I going to make my way down?

Like an old lady just like walks by me. And I'm like, this is literally nothing. I'm being a baby. So the only scary part was like the wildlife there, you're not supposed to mess with. So there are all these signs that are like, hey, don't make eye contact with monkeys. They'll fuck up your life. And same thing with like wild boars they're gonna gut you

there's there's signs that show snakes boars monkeys and hornets oh i didn't know about the hornets but the thing is like it's getting so dark i'm like am i making inadvertent eye contact with monkeys and just not knowing it they'll like rob you too right i don't know if they're the rob you kind but i think they're the like, take your lips and show it to you kind. Hold on, what? No, all monkeys are terrifying, right? No, yeah, extremely so.

It's like strong monkeys. Strong monkeys. They got monkey muscles. Yeah. But anyway, that was fun. And I felt like we got a lot closer. Yes. Just being buddies.

And we would like meet up at little points along the way when we, you know, throughout the trip, like we had dinner in Tokyo. And Wynn got beer there know, throughout the trip. Like we had dinner in Tokyo. Wynn got beer there too. We went to the Izakaya out in Tokyo. Yeah, it was great.

Osaka was delicious. That first night we rolled in, we got the yakitori too. Damn, damn. It was an adventure. That's the thing. Like, okay, so first of all, let me say this. I've never been out of the country, believe it or not. I don't believe it.

I don't think. Yeah, come on. I don't think for me, if I were to go out there like i would have been like with you guys the whole time you know what i mean like i wouldn't have left the way you did that i wouldn't have gone and experienced my own like situation i would have just been like okay so this is a city sure where it's a drink since it's nice i don't want to be in the dark with some monkeys come on like i don't want any of in the dark with some monkeys. Come on. Like, I don't want any of that. Like you are very independent because it says like,

as much as like, I might get social anxiety or, you know, like I want to be by myself in those situations. Oh, I'm up under you. You know what I mean? Like I would not just. Well, the thing is I'd been there once before, even though there were new cities, like I'd been to Japan. The train system is pretty easy to figure out

once you get a handle on it. I know enough of the language to get by politely in like restaurants and stuff. You know more than just enough. Your Japanese was like, when we were there, I saw it just boosting. I was like, how does Damien know that? I don't even know that word.

Damien. You taught me so much. I'd write down everything you'd say and then I would parrot it back. I would've went in there saying, gracias. I wouldn't know I wouldn't. You taught me so much. I'd write down everything you'd say. And then I would parrot it back. I would have went in there saying, gracias. I wouldn't know what to say. Hola. Menti Rosso, hasta luego.

Hola. I'm like, I would have been cha-cha'd and everything. I said, y'all do salsa? Y'all like salsa? That's amazing. I would have fucked it up. Nah, yeah. Thanks, y'all.

That was fun. But it was cool to see you too, because you are like, you're so conversational with your Japanese too. Like I can speak politely like I've learned from a textbook, but you're very much like, Hey, how's it going, bud? Let's talk and have a conversation. And that was impressive to me.

I'm still, I'm not, for anybody who, my Japanese isn't fluent. I learned enough to go through and learn and how to be conversational enough and talk. I just like, I never practice it too, as much as I should. Duolingo yells at me every other day. It threatens me. I think the other day it threatened to stab me.

It was kind of- Hold on, can somebody teach me something in like Japanese, like a word or something that I'll praise? Kevin's the senpai. All right. If you want to say like, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. You need to say,

Hajimemashite. Hajimemashite. Hajimemashite hajimemashite hajimemashite say it again haji haji me me mashite hajimemashite come on there you go you just said nice to meet you how do i say come on just like you said it just oh uh ikuzo oh yeah yeah that's let's go that's let's go come on yeah you could do that too ikuzo ikuzo ikuzo ikuzo come on come on welcome to japanese language podcast hey let's go let's let's go come on yeah you could do that too come on welcome to japanese language podcast hey let's get it but it was cool getting to know you more yeah it was really we were fast

friends when i started working here but i don't know i feel like i got to know you a lot more i definitely got to know lacy more your wife yeah she she loved every bit of it too it was really fun for all of us when we're traveling and doing the whole thing so and then by the end of it though we were just exhausted i I was too, man. How long were you guys out there again? 10 days with travel. Yeah. It was like a 12-day total trip.

But the 10th day was just because we kind of like the weird ebb and flow of time when you're going traveling in distance like that. And you just walk constantly. God, so much walking. It's so walkable. But my legs were just so sore every single day it was like jello yeah we averaged i think i kept track it was like seven to eight miles a day is what we walked i would be kind of down for that right we lost weight we lost weight during that we're eating so much food yes that sounds good i'm going on a hike right after this hell yeah

i kept finding like restaurants where i would be the only person in there and it'd be run by like an elderly couple and they were just like so stoked to see me. And like, that's just a good feeling. And you know, I love that kind of stuff. Yeah.

That stuff was so much fun. So hey, Japan, hit us up. We want to go back. Hit us up. All of Japan. Invite me.

Yeah. Come on down. I think that'd be great. Yeah. Come on. Come on. And speaking of getting to know you better, this is a bit of a segue,

but we'd sort of talked about something regarding having you on. Come on. And speaking of getting to know you better, this is a bit of a segue, but we'd sort of talked about something regarding having you on the podcast today. There was some stuff you wanted to like talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Giving you the platform. I know that's just- Yes, I know.

That's sort of a hard segue, but I'm like, we'd already talked about mental stuff for a bit. So I'm just curious. Yeah. I wanted to bring to the podcast a little bit. So not many people probably know about me. So my name's Kevin.

Hey, come on. I'm the Shreditor. I sit behind the camera. I help produce things. You might catch glimpses of me. One time I drank some really nasty fish. Oh yeah.

Eat it or eat it. But one thing about me is I have ADHD and I have the ADHD that's the most fun in the sense of, so there's like three kinds. You can have the hyperactive or you can have inattentive. And then there's one that's a combination of both.

And that's me. So I'm hyperactive and inattentive. And so, yeah, I wanted to, like, that was one thing I wanted to discuss at some point was like ADHD and what it's like to be somebody with it. And like what, how society looks at it. Right. on select Toyo tires. Find a Toyo Tread Experts dealer near you at treadexperts.ca slash locations. From tires to auto repair, we're always there. Treadexperts.ca Well, I think that's awesome because, you know, we've talked about anxiety. We've talked about my OCD.

We've talked about body issues and sexuality and gender identity and all these different things. So I think this can only help people, but just out of curiosity. So for those people that don't know fully what ADHD is beyond what you've just said, like textbook wise, what does that look like day to day for you? Like how might that affect it?

What's an interaction that might be different for you than it would be different for someone else? Right. So a lot of like ADHD, especially since I'm only speaking once again from having like the combination of it. It happens. It's so weird because it happens in small ways. And it's so subtle in a lot of ways that like a lot of people just see it as your personality.

It's just you. It's just that. But then, of course, me, I'm like, well, I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to be that person. I did it. And then you're just like, so you don't notice it in the moment you're doing something. So a good example is, let me just dredge up some examples I have. I've got a lifetime of them.

I know I have to bring something with me. So to school, to work, to something I have to go to, hey, remember to bring that object. So I'm like, cool, I need to bring that object with me. I need to bring that object with me. I need to bring it, set it out, get it ready. I'm in the morning, I'm getting prepared. I look at the object, I'm going to take that with me.

Then I look over there and I forget that the object exists and I walk out the door and then I get to the place.'m like that object and it's not like it you know everybody does that at some point I forgot that object but this is like a daily occurrence to the point where like I'll walk out the door shut the door keys were in there day after day after day yeah or I have to bring that object with me and I'll walk out the door go back in grab the object go out the door shut the door lock it realize I left my phone in there go get my phone go out the door, shut the door, lock it, realize I left my phone in there, go get my phone, leave, lock the door, realize crap, I also didn't grab the other object I needed, go back in and grab it.

So I'll exit my apartment three or four times sometimes if it's really bad. Or like it comes down to like the ability to just talk endlessly. So that is one of the problems too is like, if I've been drinking like too much caffeine or haven't slept enough, my brain will just start firing and like, I'll just talk incessantly. So I've learned over the years methods to like corral myself in some of these

ways. Yeah. Because you have a very high pressure position. Like you're, you're the shredder, but I mean, you are doing three jobs where sometimes maybe someone would have difficulty focusing on one. Yes. So how did you get from point A to here? That's awesome. Yeah.

That's incredible. Keep going. I'm sorry. No, it's fine. Thank you. Yeah. It wasn't – none of it's ever been easy. So I'm – for those listening and watching, I'm currently unmedicated.

I've been unmedicated for – since high school. Oh, wow. Cool. And that was on purpose. I just didn't like personally this is my choice anybody listening if medication is your thing and you need it to help you please by all means hell yeah i was on medication for a while for ocd stuff so same yeah so for my personal choice i didn't like the way it made me feel i liked the exuberance of my personality my

ability to be just random and all over the place. Cause it also brings a lot of skills and stuff to me, but it's, oh, here we go. I forgot what the question you asked. So basically I'm asking point A is for getting stuff, checking your door seven times. Point B is you are shredder for Smosh managing a bunch of stuff that I don't think someone without, I think someone without ADHD would have a lot of difficulty doing.

I would not be like, okay, well, okay. I quit. So how did you do it? Okay. Thank you. Now we're back on track. See, there's a really good example. Come on.

So a lot of it has to do with just pure force of will. Like if I, it sounds so once again, unmedicated, I don't medicate. So a lot of it is pure force of will. A lot of it is building up habits. So I can never see when an ADHD moment's going to happen. Just when we were talking, I forgot what you asked me. So I can never see when it happens, but I can recognize that it happened. And the difference is in a lot of ADHDers, I was speaking for myself at least,

are embarrassed about their ADHD moments. And so they won't say anything. They won't, they'll just like try to nod and smile and like realize they just missed half a conversation and then just be like, and then try to pick up. I've gotten so good at picking up the last like sentence of someone said and inferring to the entire conversation. A lot of it is just putting in place checks,

checks along the way and being really open about it. Yeah. So telling you, hey, I forgot your question. Hey, I'm so sorry. You literally just said your name. I've already forgot your name. Sure. Hey, I know you just gave me this detailed rundown

about this thing. I'm sorry, my brain, I'm ADHD moment. I do it to Lacey a lot too. Like, in fact, sometimes I find myself apologizing too much. Really? I'll go to like, say something so non-sequitur because my brain just jumped 15 times.

And so you said the word, you're like, oh, I really like tea. And the next thing I know is I'm talking about some random thing that my brain leapt to. And I'll apologize. Be like, hey, sorry, ADHD moment. I just thought of like this one thing.

I think we've had moments before where you're like, oh man. And I was just like, no, that's what a conversation is like you're bringing up the next topic that's okay keep that shit going but so a lot of it and to to the point where i am now it's like force uh like sheer force of will and those checks and balances so i go shopping and i am an impulse buyer horribly impulse buyer and like money has always been a struggle for me in a lot of things and you know i love lacy she takes care of all that at this point like i put my money in her hands and i'm

like you you know whatever you you got this i've got your back i'll help do budget sheets but at the same time like yeah you you give me my allowance otherwise i will spend it all right on a lot of ramen come on ramen so so checks and balances i go to the grocery store i go impulse buying i load my cart up of all the things i want get to the grocery store. I go impulse buying. I load my cart up of all the things I want, get to the checkout, and I stop myself outside the checkout aisle, and I look in the cart,

and I ask myself, what do I need from here? What do I actually, what was an impulse buy? What was fun to put in the cart, but is going to kill me if I, not kill me, actually, but I shouldn't buy.

And then we'll do that. Lacey and I will go through the cart and move things aside and be like, okay, this is what I actually need. That stuff. We don't need it. I was just reaching. So it sounds like you've got a solid toolbox of, you know, how to deal with things, but they built up over time that you learned. Sounds like you've got a great partner who's understanding and helpful. I'll also say, whether it's ADHD, OCD, anxiety, what have you, I think people are more forgiving than you expect. Yeah. Like when you're like, sorry, ADHD moment,

it's just like, oh, I don't care. Let's talk about that thing again. That's fine. And you know, my OCD stuff, the sound is a big deal for me. If someone's got like a water bottle and they're just talking and they're like, I think we should like go over to the other thing

and start talking about whatever. And they're just absentmindedly cracking and clicking. Like it really is like, it's like static. Like if you think in terms of pictures or words, all of a sudden it's just like, like taking it over. And it literally just sends me into a thing. So I have to like, I'm so sorry, man.

Can you stop just crunching that can? Like, I'm so sorry. It's not from a place of like, it's not from a place of anger. It's not from a place of you like hating them for it. But I get embarrassed and I have to apologize. Yeah. And I'm that person that will do like crunch shit up and then like not stop.

Or like if I'm in somebody's car sitting down and they like the seatbelt sound, you know, I don't put on my seatbelt, which always put on your seatbelt kids, but like I won't put it on and it'll be like ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And I'll just be over here talking, listening to the radio. Like, yeah. Damien, I think you and I have a problem with Keith. Yeah, Keith, buddy. And then they're like, Keith, could you please just put it on?

I'm like, yo, I totally tuned that out. So, like, I have that thing to tune that. I have a cool skill to tune some stuff out that just, like, everyone else is annoyed with. And I mean, rightfully so, because I guess, like, under certain circumstances, I would feel annoyed, rightfully so, because I guess like under certain circumstances, I would feel annoyed too.

You know what I mean? Or be like triggered or whatever the word is. Well, and the big thing that I find for myself now too, that really helps boost me personally is like exercise of some sort. Cause I have with a hyperactivity spot, I can have a lot, like a huge boost of energy from nowhere. And I, to like calm and

quell the storm in my brain, sometimes I need to go on a run. I'll go, I'll get home and be like, I need to go on a run. Or if I'm hiking or something, I'm like, I'm going to hike up this hill faster than anybody's hiked before. Like I pushed myself to the limit. I've had to pull back a little bit just so I don't injure or hurt myself. But like exercise I think is like also just like a great thing and mentally for everybody too. I think sometimes whatever someone deals with mentally, there are ways you can sort of shift it to be more like a superpower. Like with that, you focus on that and like, I'm going to push myself up with the OCD stuff, like focusing really hard on one thing. It's like, what if I actually can get away from that noise and focus on this one thing I have to do and I

have to get it done. It's rare that I'm able to do that, but when I can, it's just, it's a superpower. But I think it's so, I so appreciate you talking about this because, you know, you and I had a conversation about it, maybe like a year ago that it's something that you deal with. Some of my best friends growing up had ADHD and I saw them through like different phases of being medicated and all that stuff. But even knowing that I didn't know the daily struggle to me, it was just like, oh, that just means you're hyper. Right. Got it like yeah that's a lot of people think like the joke everybody makes about it is like oh sorry oh squirrel yeah oh squirrel and they're like oh and then or the other part is like people be like I must be ADHD too I forgot it's like it's like man it comes out

in so many small ways like it's I have a story about that yeah this is me like because i was totally out of line so like like you said in school and different things you know you have a hyper kid and it's like oh you you need medicine that would be a thing that was said so i have this cousin who lives with my grandma he i'm pretty sure he had adhd and if he had it he had like a like a right he was kind of like beyond just him having energy he was kind of had like a like a right he was kind of like beyond just him having energy he was kind of just like a bad kid too yeah and i remember i said that to him you know i'm like six years younger you know so but he was just like off off the walls and i was like i said you need medicine you need to take medicine my grandma came down god rest her soul she's not with us anymore

but she came down and she said don't you you ever say that. She said, I have what he has. You know what I mean? She was like, I didn't know that she heard me upstairs. But she said, I have the same thing. I have to take medication. Don't you ever say that again. And this is the most gentle, calm, like you would never think. But just for her to say that, to come down and check me and put me in come on and put me in my place

and to say i have what he has i take medication i was like oh that's so that's why i even look at it a whole different way because that's not cool well you're conditioned to say things like that it's just it just becomes something that just comes out like same with like the ocd thing like someone's just like oh sorry i'm so ocd can OCD. Can you actually do this? I do. I, but I also get it. Like, I don't like it. It's not okay. It's not okay.

But it's something that's been said for so long. So offhandedly that if someone says it, it's just a product of them hearing it. So they have to be called out one time and be like, hey, that's actually not cool. And then they're like, oh my God, holy crap. I never even thought about it being not cool. True. It's just a thing that you say, like, come on. Come on.

There it is. So I definitely have a lot of like forgiveness there. But I also know that like the form of OCD I have doesn't like ruin my life on a daily basis. Like I know there are different levels to all of these things that like, if it affected your every waking moment and made life agony,

and then someone's like i'm so adhd then i'd be pissed but like you know i guess it's more of a luxury that i can be like hey actually the thing you said yeah exactly and that's what i was gonna say too is you i mean with your ocd like you seem to really champion through a lot of that as well like what like thank you i've gotten a lot better i remember when you've seen him over the years over the years when you first got here you were like really weird with touch i do know that a lot more like it was just like certain things so funny story about that and i appreciate you saying that um funny story about that i got off of my meds like cold turkey when i started at smosh and i also went through a breakup at the same time. So my anxiety was just like

spiking so hard. It wasn't even the OCD stuff so much. It was anxiety. And it was really hard. And it was interesting being in this new environment where like I had come from a place of like TV and film that was very structured, very like, this is the way things done. And I had never done YouTube before. And it looks like that from the outside, but in reality, it's like, you know, everything's crazy and wacky and people that from the outside, but in reality, it's like, you know, everything's crazy and wacky and people are trying to slate, but other people on set are still like talking

and all that stuff. And I was literally like, whoa, what is this? This is so weird. Like in my mind at first, I'd be like, wow, this is kind of unprofessional, but it's just, no, it's a different profession. But point being, you know, we were doing like summer games and people were weird with like touch with me.

Like there were a couple of different people that worked here and i'm not going to call out specific names but they'd be like haha like nipple tweak like you know oh you got to watch out for that dude he might smack your butt and then like i was i was napping one time and like someone like trout legged me and just like slapped between it and so but see those are all things that are not okay but i'm so aware of being like that ocCD guy that calls out everything that I was just like, you know, it'll be a lot easier for people to stomach. Hey, I'm actually weird with touch. Not be like, hi, HR,

you have an employee that's worked for you for years that grabbed my nipples. Like what the fuck? Like in what possible place is that okay? So me saying I'm weird with touch, that's not true. I love hugs. I love high fives. I love handshakes. I love like putting my arm around somebody and vice versa i love that stuff at the

time but it was just it was also me just sort of falling on my sword and being like i don't want to make this a big deal so hey everyone i'm weird with touch will that be enough for you to not grab my ass at a workplace which is like that's not that's not cool that you had to like put that in place it's weird that's yeah that's that's grossly inappropriate thank you yeah so so yeah just for the record i'm not weird with touch unless someone's just like aha nipples like i fuck that i really thought you were bad with touch it was just like it started going around like yo just don't do it. I mean, you got it. You got it. Get away, you know. No touch there. Yeah. Unless you want.

Well, for the record, I don't. I almost touched your nipples. I would have got you. Maybe it's me. I don't know. No, no, no. I'm not calling out names. I'm not going to call out names.

Come on. But it was just a matter of like. I do. Look, I touch. I do say I do touch. But I hope if I've ever touched you. You've never. Okay.

No. Okay. I just have to make sure. I love hugs. I love stuff like that. That's why it was so sad for me to be like, oh, careful, everyone. Damien doesn't like. Bro, you made.

It was so like, I was like, okay, so I just got to make sure I don't. Because I love hugs. You know, I give everybody hugs. I'm like, yo, what's up? So I was like, okay, Damien's the one I can't give a hug to. I'll remember that. I appreciate it. I mean, in attempts to not make it a big deal,

I also, I guess, made it a much bigger deal of like, yo, did nobody touch this dude? Look, nobody was touching after the conversations. Look, well, look, no more ass slap. Yeah, right? Come on. Yeah, it was a trade-off. It's like someone won't grab your chest

but at the same time you can never be hugged again all right you know but no i mean we're here and it's it's been interesting for me to like confront all these things that like first impressions whether it was like starting back in mythical or like way back in the day when people will bring something up i'll be like oh my god like i don't even recognize that version of me that i was like that was an issue for people and even you saying saying that now, like, oh yeah, we all knew not to touch you. I was just like, wait, oh God, that was a thing. That's crazy. Like, you know, and it's sometimes hard to break those conceptions, but all you can do is, you know, show people otherwise. Right. Exactly. That was nice. Come on. Come on. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. Come on.

Thank you. Thank you. Kevin does. Kevin does. Awesome, y'all. That was, thanks for, is there anything else you want to say to the people out there who are watching

who maybe have ADHD? Advice from like a senpai? Okay, yes. Here's my advice. It might get a little emotional for some people. Sure. While your ADHD is a part of you, you are not your ADHD.

You are an awesome person. It gives you lots of skills and it can help you with your personality. In your head, you're probably going to hate yourself and question everything that you do and think everybody hates you for it. That's not true. And you can do it and just work hard and know that you're not the only one out there. Come on. Dude, that's so nice. I'm getting a little teary.

That's really nice. I'm getting a little teary. That's really nice. Also, final shout out. Check out if you guys want to find other like-minded people with ADHD and hear other stories and how to work through stuff. There's a ADHD subreddit that I frequent on there a lot. And they talk. They'll say, like, I had a problem with this today. Or, man, ADHD is really getting me with this. Or, hey, I got medication today and I'm feeling better.

Or, hey, how do you guys work through this issue? The ADHD subreddit is amazing. That's awesome. No matter what you deal with, it's always nice to read something or hear something and go, oh, there I am. Yeah, that was a moment in my life where I legitimately, this is maybe I kind of bring it back a little too much.

Lacey and I, when we were fresh on in our relationship, when we just first started dating, we'd had some issues. And I had never been in a long-term relationship with somebody. So I had never dealt with ADHD. I had always dealt with ADHD as myself and friends, not in a relationship. We had issues. It was a rocky start.

And for a while, we didn't know what was going on. It was like, was it her? Was it me? I was hurt. She was hurt. And then for me, I was like, wait a minute. I completely forget I have ADHD sometimes. Wow i researched it and i like i was with her i remember like we were we just had a little like an argument and i was like in bed researching it

it had like point a point b of like who the person who has adhd probably feels like this in the relationship and the person with adhd uh who doesn't and is dealing with it feels like this and it was like this. And it was like column for column, exactly how we both felt. And we just cried. We just held each other and cried. And it was like, but it was like that kind of stuff,

like acknowledging and being like, you know what? This is me. And like, that was a road to like working on a lot of really cool stuff in our relationship and life. So. That's incredible, man. Y'all held each other and cried. Yeah, it was really.

That ain't enough. Come on, I don't know what is. I'm still not entirely sure what is, but I think that's one. Come on. That isn't the one. Oh, man. I love you guys. This is great.

I respect the hell out of you for coming on here and talking about it. Because, you know, we get comments all the time about, like, thank you for talking about this. You know, it's a nice little offshoot from the goofy comedy personality-based stuff that we usually do. It really is. Where we can do even a little bit of good. I still get messages about the body image podcast. You know, when Shane and I talk about it, they're like, I've never heard guys talk about this before.

I've never heard men say these things. And it was like, whoa. That was a really great moment. I was over there nodding my head constantly. Hell yeah. And my neck hurt. I think I got to catch that one. I got to look at that one yeah check it out it's but it's it's similar to this where we just talk about insecurities but it's shane opening up about um you know his

own issues with his body and i was just like oh hey actually like me too and then you know so many people regardless of gender but you know there's a stigma around men specifically we don't care we don't care it doesn't matter anything anybody said to you like and there's probably something somebody said to you or brought to your attention or like all of that stuff those things stick i actually i actually just had to tell my mom so this is funny she had said like just growing up my eyes are big right so i have like really like big expressive eyes and i mean i had to grow into them a little bit but like beyond that i just remember whenever my mom or like my sister's like

oh my god your eyes oh that sticks your eyes oh my why's your eyes so big boy that that's but like the that's the thing so like you know me and my mom were talking and we're on the phone and she had said something about my eyes i said you, you know what mom? I said, you used to talk about my eyes a lot. And I said, it really messed me up. Like my eyes, my teeth, different things.

But then she was like, she said, I love your eyes. I said, well, you have to watch how you say it. It's not what you say. It's how you say it.

Because I thought that I had the, like the most gigantic. It creates a complex. She said, I love your eyes. And when she said that, I'm like, what did you just, when she said that, I couldn't believe it.

I was like, but you said it like, look at those eyes. Like, look at those. Man, it messed me up. It messed me up. Good for you for saying something about it. And then, you know, then she got to clarify. Like the conversation, communication happened. So important.

I forget even what it was about, but it was something almost exactly like that with my mom. Like a couple of months ago, I was like, hey, I don't know if you know this, but you always used to say things this way. And you said it kind of that way right now. You know, this is what that meant to me. So, like, it's funny how it doesn't always have to be an argument, but it's like, yeah, hey, just so you know, like what you're doing, this is what you're doing. And it sucks that we have to wait till we're adults sort of of, because it's like, they're probably not gonna have another kid and give another shot. It's just, you know.

As a kid, so you're just dealing with it. You know what I mean? You're just trying to process. You don't know any difference. You're learning like social, society, all that stuff. If you are processing, so beyond anything, like why would you say something that you're processing? Like where does this come from?

And then you hear it the same way. It's like, oh, this is because of this. It's because I messed up in this way. Oh, you like my eyes? Whoa, why did you say it with so much dislike and even now like you can look back and be like oh it's coming from a place of like playful love but when you're a kid you don't have that you don't have you don't have context you don't know you gotta watch that you have to watch that and i think especially in the black community we play so hard with each other like a black person roast session like sometimes it's like fun and it's sweet and it's just like

haha but some of the things that we say to we would say to one another like even my mom like she's the best mom in the world but like sometimes it's just certain things that just stick and now i think you know like it's stuck sure things are things that, I mean, it's stick. I'm like, mom used to call us ugly. She said, I never said that. I said, y'all were funny looking. Mom, mom, mom. Come on.

You just don't have the perspective yet. But like as an adult, you'd say that to your friends. So like, you know, you teach kids language and you teach them social interaction and all that stuff. But like, yeah, when you don't have a basis yet. Sarcasm and playful. I just made my mom look like the most horrible person. My mom is the reason that I'm here.

She believes in me. She gives me the utmost support. I think anyone who's ever listened to you talk about your mom knows that you have nothing but amazing love for her. She just messed up a couple of times. Well, yeah. Who's going to be perfect? The same thing with my mom. I love my mom.

She's wonderful and she was a wonderful mom, but I'm just saying like, you still have those conversations. Right. It's all good. Yeah, I love her. I'm gonna call her right as soon as we get done with this. Come on. So actually I had a question to ask you.

Please do. When is this airing? You guys are not quite in Australia yet. Oh, I can't wait though. I so can't wait. Oh, you're going to Australia? Yeah right? Ori we going to Australia? Or Nor? No that's not. I'm gonna eat a koala. No you can't. What? You can't eat koalas? I'm gonna try my beast. I'm gonna go up to a tree and just kick it and if one

drops down I'm gonna catch it and then name it and then eat it so it's harder on me because I named it. I'm so sorry everyone in Australia for doing that voice. That was great. Come on. They can cut it out. That's me. I'm not cutting it out.

Kevin, don't cut this out. I know for a fact I can't. That's not a real Australian accent. That actually also comes from Matthew Scott. Oh, really? It was me and Shane's So Random Days where he had this character that was like

supposed to be an Australian model and it was based off of like him and his brother watching Australia's Next Top Model. And there was like one judge that said something

to the effect, I'm just, I'm going into a friend's memory here, but like, is like, you have to do the beast pose. If you don't do the beast pose, you won't get the job.

And so like, and so he just took that accent and like bastardized it and then shared it with us. And that's why Shane and I are always like, or no. But in reality,

everyone on the show is like, we don't talk like that. He did a character based off that, that he had to do like a crazy dance or something too. I think I saw that clip.

The Angus. Do the Angus. Do the Angus. I saw that clip and I was beside myself with how crazy that was it was incredible that dance was insane but anyway but yes uh so smosh is it called smosh australia it is now okay okay australia come on so have you been to smosh australia before i've never been to smosh australia or australia i uh am very excited for multiple reasons. People learn this about me on tour.

My favorite part about traveling is trying new foods and specialties I wouldn't normally get anywhere else. No, not pulling on the bus. So I'm excited to see what Australia has to offer food-wise. I can't wait to try local specialties and things like that. Because that's part of how you experience and share culture. Food is so important. Oh, for sure. Even if you don't speak the same language, you connect through food.

And that's a big deal to me. What what food do they i actually don't know what australian food i know shrimp on the barbie that's all i know i also feel like maybe that's not even i don't think that's real that's all i know or what outback steakhouse has told me you pour blooming onions i can't even do an accent a foster's lager into a can of vegemite and put it on a blooming onion no um that's a eat it or eat it. Australia. Oh, I actually can't wait. Here's my thing about that. I know that like kangaroos are farm raised sometimes

for food. So I was like, oh, maybe if given the opportunity, I'll try that. But I also know the wildfires have been insane and so much wildlife was lost. So I don't know the situation there anymore. I don't wanna be the guy that eats the last kangaroo. I wanna just like be as like conservative as possible with my food choices there because I also don't want to be the guy that eats the last kangaroo. I want to just like be as like conservative as possible

with my food choices there because I also don't like, I don't want to do anything inhumane or weird. You know, but. No, this ain't the time. It's not the time. No time is the time, come on. No time is the time. Why is that?

Not to do anything inhumane. Oh, got it. Oh yeah. I thought you were saying there is never a right time to eat a kangaroo. That's what I was thinking too. Well, they're just like, they're jumpy cows. Like that's all they are.

They're just some jumpy ass cows. They're buff though. They're buff. They will beat your ass. They will. No, I'm not going to find and track down a live kangaroo, like running beside it. Like, excuse me, stop.

What messes me up is they like, they like they balance on their tails too. That's like weird. Their tails are their little balancing things. Good Lord. Come on. Sorry, if I still had a tail, I would do that. Hold do. That's like weird. Their tails are their little balancing things. Good lord. Come on. Sorry, if I still had a tail, I would do that.

Hold on, what? Step back. And that's all the time we have. No. But I'm so excited for Australia. It's cool because we're doing Supernova on both Gold Coast and Melbourne.

I know the days in between there, we actually have like a fair amount of time to just sort of do nothing. So I was kind of considering doing my own thing again and kind of getting lost in a country where- That's the place you don't want to get lost in though.

They have deadly, deadly animals. I'm not going to like drop myself on top of Ayers Rock and be like, figure it out. Isn't there like a thing bigger there too? Like all like big? That's Texas. Leave it in the heart, come on. Am I going to have to cut that?

Is that a real song? If so, it was- That's the Texas theme, not theme song, the Texas- The Texas theme song. a real song? That's the Texas theme song. The Texas theme song. That's a Texas theme song. It plays when every Texan wakes up because they live in a dystopian future. They fire their gun up in the air.

I just want one morning where I'm not listening to this. If they try to own that from that, the world is coming to an end for sure. Texas, we actually love you. Come on, we do love Texas. I drove through Texas. It took me 15 hours.

It was amazing. Oh, yeah. I drove through, unfortunately, the top part of Texas, which is a bummer. Yes. That's why I don't drive. Come on. Yeah, I drove out from Georgia the first time coming out here, and Texas was the bulk of the drive. It was like you hit Alabama, and there's these beautiful fields, and you you hit Louisiana and there's all this swamp land and ooh, all this.

Wow. Look at America. And then Texas. And then it was like, whatever force was making America like got a phone call. Like at least for the top of Texas. Texas is beautiful. But like, I'm talking about you listen to the sound of wind for 36 hours. You get to see some like those oil, oil.

Those like little drinky birds. Yeah, oil drinky birds. That actually make that oil well. Yeah oil derricks oil derricks Oh, by the way, it's a Brennan Brennan is taking over for me right now Brennan. Hi Brennan is my my twin brother. Hello He with the better hair the better beard the better head and the better beard come on really quick going back to smushed, really Yeah, wait, so where did you say you guys were going to go? We're going to be doing Supernova, which is a convention.

Oh, I didn't actually. I thought that was like a, oh, that's a convention center. Oh, no, it's not a convention center. It's like saying, I'm doing Comic-Con San Diego or Comic-Con New York, but it's Supernova,

Gold Coast, and Melbourne. Okay, well, you say that. Here's the thing, man. I've said Melbourne many times, then everybody goes, actually, if you were from there, actually, the way they say it is Melbourne.

And I'm like, well, I'm also not speaking with the accent right now, so I will say Melbourne. So people like Keith don't have to ask me when I'm talking about it who speak American English, and that's who I'm talking to. Come on, well, you learn something new every day.

Melbourne. But this is the one time someone hasn't corrected me for that so like now i just assumed you know you're talking about you said it was such confidence i appreciate that's the thing though like sometimes people are like actually if you order that thing in a restaurant it's called and i'm like yeah but if i have to ask about that like it's flipping i don't know it's so much easier to just say it how i say it like don, don't you know those people who are like, yes, I'm going to go to an Italian restaurant and order the spaghetti.

I'm like, you sound like an asshole. Maybe you're saying it right. Maybe you are. Parmigiano. I hate that. I hate it. I hate it so much. Spaghetti.

Spaghetti. Come on. You're going to be in Australia doing those. And you guys still have tickets for sale, right? What's that? I'm promoting Australia right now. I think we do. That's the pro.

So definitely come see us in Supanova. And also in Melbourne. Melbourne and Gold Coast. So also, you know, we get a lot of messages when people say like, oh, man, why didn't you come here? And, you know, why not come to Adelaide? Nobody comes to Adelaide oh man this is like the first time that we have a group as a group at least for as long as i've been here or going out of the country so you know you can't hit everywhere all at once especially because australia is a continent i'll just say that like

you know if this does well that opens up the door to like possibilities for other things in the future this is us like dipping our toes in the water and it's people who are like why aren't you scuba diving? It's like, well, we're going to dip the toes first. Hey, come on, dip them toes. Dip the toes, just a little toesy. Just get them moist up that little toe. Come on.

But yeah, we're excited for it. If you have any recommendations for what to do, be it as a group or if I go off solo, or if you're like, no, Australia is more dangerous than you think, don't go off solo. Tell me, save my life. Comment on this video as well if you guys have any suggestions

for Australia. Where is that one building that everybody goes to take pictures? Sydney Opera House. That looks like a boat. It's right on the wheel. You guys going to go check it out? I don't know because I know we're not going

to Sydney, but it's, do I go do that? Do I also. Well, you have time? Yeah. We've got like a few days in between. So we sort of bookend our trip. We're doing like Supanova. I forget if Melbourne or Gold Coast is first,

but one of them. And then we've got several days and then a different one. That's why I kind of want to go off on my own. But also I was thinking of asking for like a few extra days and being like, hey, when we're leaving, since I'm so close to Japan, can I just hit up Kyoto for like three or four days? Oh like, Hey, when we're leaving, since I'm so close to Japan, can I just hit up Kyoto for like three or four days? I mean,

but I'm right there. That's a legitimate. If you're going to fly across the Pacific ocean, you got to make it. You got to get your, get your times. Very close. Very close.

Yeah. Yeah. Are we, are we going with you to Australia? Can we go with you? Damien, this is your call and only your call. As the producer,

King of Smosh. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. Like a boss. Come on. All hail. Like or as a boss. You guys have been doing the cancelled segment. Oh, yeah. And I want in on that. Oh, okay. We should do the cancel. Keith, have you been party to this cancel? Come on, lay it

on me. What is this? So we're basically cancelling somebody. What's the thing we're cancelling the week? And it's not necessarily like, this person's bad, but it's like I'm canceling when you're waiting too long for your Postmates order and then they cancel on you. I'm canceling that. Like it's just something you're done with this week. Oh, okay. So what are you canceling, Keith? So like since we're talking about orders, I am canceling Uber Eats making all orders under $15, $3 delivery fee.

What is up with that? That is not a come on moment. That is a don't do that. If it says $149 for something, it should be $149 if it's under $15. And just because it's under $15 doesn't mean it should be $3 delivery fee. Come on. Do you have the unlimited service in that you still have to pay on top of that? See,

that's the other part about it. Yes, I have to pay that too. So like, if I'm paying this and that, there's no reason I should get it to $15 just to like spend a dollar less.

Yes. That's crazy. That, come on. I do the, I do the Postmates Unlimited, but it's the same thing. If it's under $15,

there's a delivery fee. But so many restaurants have figured that out and they're like, we only offer 10 kinds of sandwiches and each sandwich is $14.95. So you're like, I have to order two sandwiches to make it worth it. Or get a bag of chips.

I want those chips and soda, but guess I'm getting it. Exactly. Yeah, okay. So that is canceled. But I'm ordering some stuff tonight. Come on. Shout out to each of our individual delivery services. Please hit us up for sponsorship. Yes. Kevin, what's canceled? You're excited to cancel something. Yes. Shout out to each of our individual delivery services. Please hit us up for sponsorship. Yes.

Kevin, what's canceled? You're excited to cancel something. Yes. Yes. I want to cancel having to untie your shoes all the way to take them off. Oh, dude. Oh, bro, I'm in with that. Yeah, like, it's like, I'm all about like slipping shoes on, slip them off.

I like shoelaces because it'll be cool when you tie them the right way. But come on, like, my feet, you gotta take them all the way off. You're like, I want my shoes off now. I don't want to have to tie, and then you have to tie them all the way back up. Do you know what you should do? So you lace them up, like, you got to take them all the way off. You're like, I want my shoes off now. I don't want to have to tie. And then you have to tie them all the way back up. Do you know what you should do?

So you lace them up like, you know, like lace them up like regular, but you just put the shoe strings on the inside instead of like tying them. So when they go on the inside from the outside, they're already in your shoe and you just like put your foot on them. And then I don't have to tie them all the way then after that too. You never tie them. I got some nice boots with Damien when I was in Japan. It's true.

I love them. They're amazing. You did. But sometimes I'm like, I just don't want to deal with them. So I cancel taking shoes off all the way with laces. I said it right. I did it right. I'm going to have to teach you a few things.

Just come on to my house and I'll teach you some stuff. Yeah, teach me later, please. Do it. Learn him something. Damien, what are you canceling? Oh, man. I didn't know we were canceling anything this week. Nothing too big, but I think I want to cancel thrift man I didn't know we were canceling anything this week nothing too big but I think

I want to cancel thrift stores that don't wash the clothing enough they never wash yes no never they clean

they like do some they put some like a steaming or something right they do something like that but they never wash it they're not spending no money on that

they need to have an industrial size washer in the back and do that because I we went thrift shopping in I think Portland or maybe it

was seattle on tour and i found like four uh clothing pieces that i really liked like one was a really good quality jacket from a good brand and i was like damn this is awesome but then i like smelled it and it had that like mildew like yeah teenager who hasn't figured out deodorant yeah i kind of smell it i was like damn oh bro they're not how gross they're not like i don't think, I don't believe thrift stores actually wash it. Goodwill does. They put like some stuff on there to make it smell better

and do like stuff like that. They just Febreze it. I'm canceling it because like, you don't know if that comes out. Like sometimes with that kind of smell, it might not come out with a wash. So if I knew for a fact they washed this and it didn't come out, you know, then it'd be fine.

But I, I didn't know. So I didn't get it. Have you washed it? Oh, I didn't buy it. You didn't buy it? No,

no way. Cause I was like, this could smell like ass. Come on. It's gross. Smell like ass. Come on. Well,

you guys, uh, this has been a lot of fun. Um, a lot of firsts. You and I had never done a podcast together. That's so weird. Kevin is on this side for the first time and therefore also.

Yeah. Come on. I like it a lot. Um on this side for the first time and therefore also. Yeah. Come on. I like it a lot. Oh, thank you for sharing, too. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for letting me share. Thank you for the platform.

And thank you for sharing, too. Yeah. It's a lot of little normal. A little little. Oh, come on. Guys, if you enjoyed this, please rate us five stars wherever you're listening to this podcast. It really does help us out you can of course listen to us on Spotify and iTunes

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until then I hope you have a fantastic week and we will catch you next time oh come on this has been beautiful this has been beautiful

but I'm also happy to go. Goodbye. Because we have lunch waiting for us. Yeah, I'm really hungry. I'm going to eat fried rice with scrimps. I think I got like a, come on. Scrimp fried rice. That's going to be so annoying. We'll see you next time.