Smosh Mouth - S2: #67 - Black Lives Matter
Episode Date: June 17, 2020Courtney, Keith, and Jackie talk about the recent resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement, protesting for the first time, and the best way to be an ally. Learn more about your ad choices. Vi...sit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mom, Mom, did you see my race?
Of course I did, darling.
Look, you did your best.
You tried.
The thing is, it's not about winning.
It's about taking part.
Next year you might do better.
But I did win, Mom.
You did?
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Ramble.
I didn't know how this was going to happen.
I knew that one day it would happen.
I didn't know when it would happen or if it would even happen in my lifetime.
But we're here.
We are here.
And we can see the light.
I feel the light.
I feel it.
I feel change happening.
This shit needs to go on.
It's like, yeah, last week was hard.
It's like, we're going to have some hard months.
These people are hurting and now they're getting kicked
while they're down by the people that they're upset at.
It's all real fucked up.
Dude, I got cheese in my teeth still.
Hot, mama.
Oh, god.
You know when it gets stuck in the back of your mouth like oh yeah
you need some water you need to sip i did you need more until it's dissolved suck it down suck it
down now suck it down now wait jackie can you sing are you able to sing? Not like, can you sing right now? But like, do you sing? Yes. Let me, can we hear something?
No.
Okay. Okay.
Well, yeah, we did go, still, we did go dark last week.
Last week was pretty crazy.
And the week before that was even crazier.
A revolution's going on, y'all.
Yes.
And it's amazing.
And people are scared.
And I love it.
Jackie. I love it. Jackie, please hold on why why do you love it why okay explain why you think people are scared and why you love it i think there's just i like every time
someone is like i'm so overwhelmed i'm learning so much like this is so sad i'm just like welcome
yes yes come into this consciousness together uh like i just
watched the matrix too which is like also super fitting for the time so many movies have been
coming up like and that i've been watching that somehow tie in really well like i've been obviously
watching documentaries and stuff to like educate myself but also like i randomly watched the joker and it's like oh there's hella protesting in this movie yeah it's crazy yeah it's next level yeah
but keep going jack oh no it's just like i mean the matrix is all about like um i mean neo is like
breaking out of the matrix right and like this whole set of i mean let me not try to like actually
explain the plot of the matrix right now let me stop myself because i will go down that train
um but it just like if you watch the matrix and just like them breaking away from the matrix it
feels like very much like what's happening for to a lot of people and just kind of starting to
question like the systems that have been in place and like like thinking about like the system and
it's weird because it's like to think about the system being broken and it's the system's been
working as it should and it's just trying to think about the system being broken and it's the system's been working as it should.
And it's just trying to actually change the system right now,
which is like a weird thing to think about.
But some of it's super heady and some of it's very just like,
this is just the shit that's happening right now.
But it's also just like, yes, I'm also like,
come bring your tears over here.
We'll cry together, but also like also like yeah but it's a lot
this is the amount the amount of unity that i see um i've been talking about it all week to my mom
my family members like some of the squad i've the the people there are more people standing in the
gaps that aren't black and that's why it's working right now yeah and i feel that every
the the gaps are being bridged i've never seen anything like it my mom's never seen anything
like it it's such a beautiful thing to see unity i'm like well damn come on look y'all late but
come and get it yeah come get some come get some like yeah being late like that totally makes sense
because like this stuff has been like the, the, yeah, keep going.
Sorry.
It's been going on for so long.
And, you know, it's, I mean, but rather late than never, honestly.
Yeah.
Rather late than never.
And I feel like I was, I've been to so many protests within the last, I want to say, couple weeks.
And I was just waving.
I remember waving just like this at one point and it was
because it was for me it was for me I was having fun out there I'm like man this is like for me
this is for my people this is for George Floyd this is for Breonna Taylor this is for everybody
like this is for people that look like me like my family my my cousins my my brother my dad
you know like I I didn't know how this was gonna happen i knew that one day
it would happen i didn't know when it would happen or if it would even happen in my lifetime
but we're here we are here and we we can see the light i feel the light i feel it i feel change
happening because yeah so many times nothing changes you know you go through the motions
you know the cops don't get you know they don't they don't have the same accountability that black people have um and it's it's just crazy to feel
a difference like i feel that i was walking with one of my black homies during a parade and he was
like i can feel it i see it i see it like we just seen everybody like screaming and like making some
noise y'all these protests are peaceful yeah i mean don't let the media like
misconstrue what's really going on these protests where i go peaceful the looters and the riots
such a small percentage of what's going on yeah such a small percentage y'all i could talk about
this forever and i could cry so if i cried i know i'm like yeah keith yeah let me lip like I started talking so much my lip done got white
oh my god
was this your first
time protesting for everybody
yes mine Jackie
it wasn't yours right I think you
yeah so like I the first
protest that I participated in wasn't
was when I was in college when Trayvon
Martin was murdered and
so like part of our like like our black student union,
we like protested on campus and it was like,
obviously like super peaceful and everything.
But this was the first time, like I was telling you guys,
like this is the first time that I've ever like gone out into my city and
protest. And it was just like, I think when,
I don't want to say when everything started happening, but because like, that's, it's been happening.
It's been happening.
It's just been recorded.
Yeah.
Like, let's say like Memorial Day.
But like, I feel like Memorial Day was like the last like straw, right?
With George Floyd being murdered.
And this is, it was just like the first time I've gone out and just been like in this,
like in the streets. And like I was yeah out in the streets
just like out there and I was just like and the first one this is the one we all went to together
it was like kind of nerve-wracking because up to that point um there had been a lot of like police
brutality at the protest so there was like it was like I want to be out there and I'm doing
everything I can,
but I just like,
but then you're sitting at home
and you're like,
so just anxious.
She's like,
I've given all the money
I can give.
Like I've signed
all the petitions I can sign
and there's always more
and there's always more to do.
But it's just like,
I was like,
I just need to go
and being,
and the fact that we're also,
this is all happening like
as you're in a pandemic
is also,
it's just like how
what what it's like oh and that was like a lot of my fear and going out initially um but it's just
like i mean not that it's not it's still important but just it's like i still have to like i was like
okay knowing that this is happening i still have to go and it was honestly the best thing for my
mental health to go.
It was just like to be surrounded.
And I last in the last week, I've gone to four different protests.
So I was like, this is great.
I love this.
I love to scream.
And it's just like there was one protest I went to and it was in Pan Pacific Park in
L.A.
And it was just and it was it was the dayific park in la and it was just and it was uh it was the day after
brianna taylor's birthday and it was led by black women and they had like all of these black women
speaking and and it was just and it was on a saturday so like everybody like so many people
showed up and it was just like and i it was just like everything I didn't know I needed just being surrounded by so much
community and just people that are just like I mean like in like improv and stuff it's like we
always start a show with like I got your back and like really feeling that and being in that space
to the point where it doesn't feel like this entire burden is on you because when I was at
home I just felt like I don't like I have to do it all myself, right?
But being there, I was like, no, there are people that want to help.
And letting them help and just letting them support you and letting them carry your weight and everything.
It was so beautiful.
And then we marched.
I was like, I've never walked this much in my life.
The marches, yeah.
I was like, I've walked like 10 miles last week and I'm like,
who is she? I don't know.
Can I say this? That's another thing.
Marching and being out there in them streets is not for everybody.
There's different ways that you can
show your solidarity and
stand with us. You can donate.
There's so many different
foundations and fundraisers and different
things going on
that you can donate to um it's uh some people social media still a great like tool everyone
has their role everybody has their role and don't feel bad for not being out there it might not just
be for you like honestly like we i have you have to take that into account because a lot of people
said i want to go out there but you know um i just uh you know my parents don't want me to go like first of all respect your
parents you live there you know what i mean like we don't want you kicked out in the streets
like that like stay home do what you can figure out different ways to do it even if it's just
like a sign you know that you like i don't know what yeah Yeah, signing petitions. Be creative. Be creative.
There's so many different ways to show your support.
And we see you.
We see you.
We see you.
We see you.
And we love you.
We love you.
Thank you, guys.
We ain't never felt like this.
We've not felt like this.
I was asking my mom the other day.
It's kind of messed me up.
I was like, yo.
I was like, have you ever gone to a protest?
And she kind of got defensive and she was like, well, we were going today, but we didn't see.
I said, no, mom, answer the question. Have you ever gone to a protest? And she was like, no. I said, mom, you have to go. I said, it's one of the most beautiful feelings. I said,
this is for you. This is for us. I said, you're 52 years old. I said, I said, I know you feel like it was just,
it's been too late or, you know, like why now? Or you feel like you're late to the party or
whatever you want to say, but like, you just never felt led enough to go. And that's okay.
Cause that's your truth. That's where you are. That doesn't mean you don't support the movement.
Like we are black. We are all of that. We feel it. We feel everything that, you know,
everybody's feeling right now. We've been feeling that for years you felt it for 52 years I said just promise me one thing you'll just go to one
I said just find one just run into one just like even if you're in the car and you're just riding
slow with these people just saying their names and just like just go there she was just she started
crying and I'm kind of crying and I had a drink, so that might have been making me cry because I'm a plug-in.
I really don't cry that often.
Cut to me crying like a lot.
We've seen it.
We've all seen it.
We've heard it.
But no, it's just I think, I don't know if she's gone yet, but I know the way she was crying, I know she's going to end up going to one.
And she's going to start crying when she goes to the to the protest as well.
My mom's a crybaby. That's where I get my crybaby syndrome from.
That was a really cool experience for a first protest for me was when we went to the Hall of Justice.
I got to just be with a bunch of people I care about and couldn't have asked for a better first protest.
Like I and it just it frustrated me because i'm like i should have been
doing these things like for so much longer like there were women's marches that i was really close
to going to but i was afraid just because like and back then women's marches like there was never any
videos of police brutality like the videos there's like threads of like hundreds of videos of this
stuff happening that like we've all been
like sharing like crazy and that was the reason like that's what i felt that's when i felt the
pull like the most i've ever felt in my life because it's like these people are hurting and
now they're getting kicked while they're down by people the people that they're upset at yeah like
i i just real fucked up like really cops when you're under a giant magnifying glass
is when you're gonna still do this stuff like are you serious because there's no accountability and
when there's no accountability why do you have to stop doing it yeah well there's cameras now so
there there's been cameras and it's there's just been no accountability and the fact that the more
that we protest and stick and stay in these streets
like after we get done with this today y'all and like we write some stuff i'm trying to find one
like i'm trying to find a protest somewhere and i might even change my clothes i want to feel good
while i'm doing it that's the thing y'all it's a sense of pride going on that i've not had
for my black ass i just kind of want to take out my damn braids and just have my fro like just here
just want to like poof it the whole time like i just want to walk just like what's up everybody
like at these protests y'all like people are passing out waters like every second they kind
of get annoyed like you want a water i was like no somebody just gave me a water i got like a whole
box of waters right here and i get out my face but it's just like the love in the the air the love in the air y'all i'm telling you the media will make you
think something is like bad like yeah don't don't y'all the media there's they they paint a they
paint a certain picture they need to sell a story mom mom did you see my race? Of course I did, darling.
Look, you did your best.
You tried.
The thing is, it's not about winning.
It's about taking part.
Next year you might do better.
But I did win, Mom.
You did?
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I was there.
I was in it.
We, like,
even my first protest,
like, I was afraid at first because of what the media said that was going on out there. Courtney, we like for it being even my first protest like i was afraid at first because
of what the the media said that was going on out there courtney we talked about it i was like
courtney when you get out there because i had gone out a few times before courtney i was like don't
worry you know like you're gonna be good she you know she was like being honest and being
transparent she was like you know getting a little anxious i said it's cool like it's not what you
think like you are protected. You are safe there.
You know what I mean?
Nobody's going to let anything happen to you.
You know what I mean?
Like, everybody's on your side in those situations.
Yeah.
There definitely are, like, safe, like, things.
If you do decide to go to a protest, just, like, for anybody that's like, I want to go, like, read up on it.
Yeah. Read up on, like, what you need to prepare to go to a protest because like like make sure you're not in like just like
bright ass clothes i don't know and like and like flip flops like yeah like oh yeah wear some wear
some sneakers wear some sneakers yeah like i it was it's kind it's like it's funny but it's not
funny like so honestly the only way that I've
been able to get through like the past couple weeks is with like my sense of humor but it's
like I had um I had written down some emergency contacts onto a piece of paper and just like
slipped it into my bra just in case like some shit happened um but then I realized I forgot
to tell my emergency contacts that they were my emergency contacts so if you call from jail yeah so the
next day i was like hey hey just as an fyi uh i expect you to get my ass out of jail if that if
some shit happens like just like yes just like want to let you know
conversation but i mean nothing i've gone to is like gotten like that but i have had some friends
that have been shot by like rubber bullets or they've been oh really yeah and now how would
they say it feels not good uh it's not yeah no the rubber bullets like there's people that have
like lost eyes they're saying that um well they were designed to be shot at the ground and bounce
up and hit your legs to get
you like moving like that and they're just like aiming and they're point blank like headshots
like honey this isn't fortnight's fucking stuff yeah like come on like who would think that
going to peacefully protest you're gonna like leave with like just one eye that's not cool
that's not cool it's not cool like i mean i wouldn't want to lose my eye in a
situation like that i'm going to peaceful like peacefully protest oh just to think like i come
back and my eye's gone like no no i ain't going for it something's not adding up yeah i mean
even as we were leaving that first protest that i went to i'm so glad you guys have been able to
go to more like i had to i had to go and get tested for covid just in case because we were
going to be filming like with a small crew at the studio soon and like us protesting kind of had to
postpone it because they wanted to be extra safe and that was like it was a whole thing but we're ultimately like everything's all good we're glad we did it but yeah i tested
negative for color that's cool that's a bunch of us got tested yeah and you know courtney honestly
thank you for coming like you and shane when you guys come and still with me like you don't
understand that it meant the world it meant the world it honestly meant the world and it was i was telling Olivia, you know, Olivia's been out there more days than even I have, you know.
She started protesting before I did.
And I just didn't.
I didn't expect any of you guys to be out there the way that you were, you know.
And to see the love and the support, I feel it all, you know.
You guys didn't have to do that you guys
didn't we've known each other for so long and you did and i'm just grateful i'm grateful to know you
guys i'm grateful that we could experience history together you know because you guys have seen like
even like me there like how like i had to go through it there that's like the only black guy
so just for you guys even standing the gaps for me they're just to like i guess everything
came full circle for me and probably for you i feel like i don't know i don't know
i will say like well of course i think the whole thing was like this is just it just felt too
important like like for me i mean i was doing everything i could it was a slow start at first
because like i wanted to be like, you know,
careful and like that I'm putting out the right information.
But it got to a point where I was like, I'm signing petitions.
I'm donating.
I'm sharing stuff.
And it just didn't feel like I was really like putting my money where my mouth was.
I was like this.
And then especially just seeing people getting mass arrested. was like we're losing people out there like we're gonna need more protesters and
like i i have been happening to buy boxes of like disposable face masks and like gloves so i was
like i can i can help these people while we're also like all together fighting for this thing
so like yeah there was a few days where
i was texting and he was like please like i want to go i don't know i don't want to go by myself
yep she definitely did definitely i mean i was texting you too like i was like yeah
i was like we're gonna go to this one how about this one like this one maybe this one yeah like
yeah oh man it's interesting though too like thinking about ways to get involved because there's some there's some ways that like my um my friends they've been volunteering with um oh what's the name of it
they've been volunteering basically help um people that have been arrested helping them like get like
due process and stuff or whatever the correct term is for it but it's like that's another way
to show up and like volunteer with different But it's, like, that's another way to show up and, like, volunteer with different, like,
like, different, like, groups that are...
Yeah.
Because it's, like, it's, like, the protests
and it's, like, well, what happens
when people get arrested
and, like, all of these other things?
Or it's, like, the people that are at the protests
just, like, handing out snacks.
Like, that's another way.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's so many ways to get involved.
And I think, too, like, the thing that I'm...
As we, like like kind of like
move move through this movement like i think also thinking about it as like a full-on marathon like
this is it's like there is like urgency right but there's also like this has to happen for
a very long time yeah and i don't know keep it going yeah like i don't know. Keep it going. Yeah. Like, I don't know the the exact number, but I think it's like when Martin Luther King was assassinated, it was like they rioted for like, I want to say six.
It's like six or 10 days. And then they pass like then they pass law. But they had been protesting for like a whole ass year before that.
You know what I mean? So it's like it's like wow this is this this shit needs
to go on like it's like it's like yeah last week was hard it's like we're gonna have some hard
months and like I'm like buckle up everybody like we gotta like you know what I mean and so it's
also like taking care of yourself and then like like knowing like when you're like on social media
when you're not on social media and stuff and like taking breaks because it's also i mean it's like it takes a toll and it's like i know for me like i was getting really upset in
the beginning one thing that was like getting me really upset and frustrated was like how people
were sharing um the video of george floyd and like i've i've never watched the video in its
entirety because i'm just saying why are we like sharing like why are we sharing like this man
being murdered and why are we so
easily able to share this man being
murdered in this way and it's just
like look at this video look at it look at it and I'm like
yes I understand the need to
like this video needs to be seen
like this video needs to exist because
without this video like
if you look at the fucking sorry
go go go if you look at the fucking sorry if you look at like like the
police reports and how how they're reporting the shit that's happened like in these incidences
and like and then you have the video like it's so important to have these videos but then you
think about like how many videos are there aren't but then also thinking about like how easily people
are just like sharing like black bodies being murdered and how desensitized people are to it yeah but they also let's realize that
these people have families like just imagine it being your personal family over and over seeing
it on the news like i put myself in that position i was like i don't like see no like the eight
minutes i don't need to see it like i know I know what happened. I've seen, like, I know how the end result is.
But just imagine his family, y'all, like on the news, like everywhere.
Like, that is sick.
That is sick.
That is sick.
It's not okay.
I can't watch the whole thing.
I've seen enough of it.
I've seen the wrestling part.
It's just like, I let it go.
Like, I'm the type of person that likes to watch fight videos on Facebook. But as soon as I see somebody, like, stumping somebody, I'm like, oh, it go. I'm the type of person that likes to watch fight videos on Facebook,
but as soon as I see somebody
stumping somebody, I'm like, oh, gotta go.
Gotta get out of here.
He looked at him
as Lesnan in his show.
His show.
What's the officer's
name? Derek Chauvin.
Yeah, up here. He saw himself
up here and George Floyd down down here and they used to work
together too right i heard that that's the they were like security guards together yeah it's so
deep how do you go home after that how do you go home after that nobody could have wrote like
shonda rhimes couldn't have wrote a better plot do you you know what i mean like she could not
have that is next level next level
to do that to someone that you know as well like i'm i'm not saying you should do it at all that's
i do not condone violence but to someone that you know i don't care if you got has had like a
a falling out or whatever i don't had a lot of falling outs with people
i'll probably have some more but i don't think to kill them
none no mercy you know and the same people that don't give mercy right now are asking like
kind of asking for mercy and it's like yo you've not you've not given it for so long
and the same thing keeps happening like it is unfortunate that the looting and the rioting is happening, but sometimes
it takes for stuff like that to happen for things
to change.
I don't support it.
I don't condone that. I don't, but
it's a part of the revolution.
A lot of it is
just straight up people taking advantage
of this movement, whether they are with it
wholeheartedly or not.
Looters are lo yeah 100 looters are
looting exactly protesters are protesting right oh man the the amount of people that are protesting
there's thousands of thousands and thousands of protesters there are not hundreds of looters like
yeah these events like that they're no it's not the the media got me fucked up oh lord it got me
fucked up oh this is my seven woman.
Oh, I don't know what's happening, but it got me fucked up.
Sorry.
But if you were to think about because like if the whole pre protest that even we were at are like that biggest one in Hollywood.
Yeah.
If all those people decided to loot, they would take down the entire city.
And that is not happening.
And also, that's not happening and also but that's
not what they want that's not what this is a thing fucking burn it all fuck it yeah but this is the
thing honestly this is the thing that's not what we want and anybody that's making and anybody
that's making um if everybody is feeling like the if the looting outweighs the peaceful protest, you are on the wrong side still.
Like you're focused on the wrong things.
You worry about the wrong things.
There's a big picture.
You worry about the wrong things.
So we can't sing, we can't sing.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
To be honest, I don't even know what song you're singing.
Okay.
I like it.
We worry about the wrong things.
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You know,
I've been making up songs
with my friends, though,
like in our group chat,
and it's like...
Okay.
Come on, look.
Come on.
What is...
What was the one...
What was the verse
I just came up with?
Some of y'all motherfuckers
are just really silent.
And we're never gonna
work together again.
What?
Some of you motherfuckers are too fucking silent. And we're never gonna work together again some motherfuckers are too fucking silent and we're never gonna work together again and it's like is that silence the silence is also fuck that's crazy
silence is violence and it's like there are people that have haven't said shit and it's like
i i'm seeing it and i'm like do not ever yeah but like if there was it's like
it's people that and it's usually people that always have something to say but their silence
just like punched you into like the lip right here and it's busted i feel it i feel it silence
is definitely violence like yo you usually got the most to say usually always online kicking it you're
fighting behind this cause that cause i'm gonna this cause and that cause and i'm you know what
i mean like you know all of this and all of that but right now you won't shh mo it's like yeah if
you don't learn then this is the thing this is my thing and my thing is like listen and learn that's
one thing but like have something to say
you always usually have something to say and then like start the dialogue the dialogue needs to
start you need to have the dialogue and we'll see that's the thing the scary part is because people
don't want to look racist and that's understandable so they try not to stay in it it's just like the
dialogue has to start and i mean just like pick your words wisely so yeah i don't know i'm asking
some people to jump in and just like yeah well no i so yeah I don't know I'm asking some people to jump
in and just like yeah well no I mean it's also like just having a good support system of people
that you can trust to help you learn like 100% dude when I first started working here I was a
very different person like and you it is that Keith like it's not like I went from it's not
like it went from one side of the spectrum to the other, but like, I've definitely grown a lot in terms of like knowledge.
100%, 100%.
And awareness.
And it starts with us working together too.
You know what I mean?
Like Courtney, we all, all of the squad, we came from different places.
And like, I'm sure having me as the black person in the cast and, you know, we have to do a lot.
They have to learn a lot about
what it is for me and what i go through and everything whether it was spoken about or not
unspoken it was definitely a lot of like learning on both ends too and how to work together yeah
because it's like we are we are a different type of people i will say then it comes with some you
know it comes with heavy hearts sometimes and
you know oppressed oppression and just a whole bunch of stuff that people just don't
don't see like we really deal with those things and i've lived it you know working at smosh i've
seen certain things and yeah you know certain things that i felt that i just could not put my
finger on yeah but you know like and then even things that I would witness happening to you
from other certain people in the office being like,
ugh, I don't even like that.
Like, that is-
Yeah, it's just levels to it.
And like I was telling Olivia the other day,
it's like, yo, like there's like levels to like oppression
and how I treat something and how I react to something
isn't how another black man that's living in Alabama reacts to this. You know what I mean?
There's like certain privileges that I have, you know,
that I have to utilize and I have to understand my influence and who I am and
where I come from.
And then also put myself in somebody else's shoes and be like, yo,
you are me. Like, you know, like you look like me, this can happen to you.
It can happen to me. You got to put,
you got to stand in the gap for your people at the same time. And that's what I've been trying to do. Cause like at the, you know, like you look like me. This can happen to you. It can happen to me. You got to put you got to stand in the gap for your people at the same time.
And that's what I've been trying to do.
Because like, you know, there's been protests for years.
Never felt led enough to go out.
Like after the first day when the riots and everything, the looting and all that happened,
for me to even want to go outside after that, like it's kind of crazy.
But it's been my, that was my first time going out
you know and i just felt led to do it i was like i need to be out there with my people
like i need to be out there with my people like and i know my people aren't there out there like
like looting and like all that i need to be out there with the protesters that is so like the
that's the bigger part that's the bigger picture yeah that's the bigger picture that's the bigger part. That's the bigger picture. Yeah, absolutely. That's the bigger picture. That's the real stuff. Every time I've tried to have conversations with people who disagree,
like, I realized pretty quickly, like, a lot of my followers on Instagram
or Twitter think, like, similar to me.
Or the ones that don't are already being handled by the community.
Like, so I'm not going to be in my replies.
Like, you guys got it.
We got to stay out of it.
And this is the thing we have to like, I mean, as long as we have the dialogue going, we should not join in the conversation more than what we say on our posts.
Because all we're doing is just, it's already set.
We said what we said.
We said what we said.
I don't need to, you know.
It's true.
Yeah, I don't need to prove anything to the followers.
No, it's just like you already stand where you stand you stand and it's just like you know that's the
best thing you can do and once you start arguing before you know it you say something hateful
then you start blocking people and then people want to come yeah and then people start coming
for you and then it's like you know deeper than that and then they think that you hate them and
it's just not what it's about yeah It's a trap. You could follow that.
Yeah, have I fallen into the said trap?
Yeah, maybe once, twice.
Maybe I've said some things that I'm not super proud of.
Yeah, Jackie, hold on.
Look, we're going to have a conversation after this
because we are not responding
to any more of those comments.
2020, no more comments
until somebody says some bullshit
I don't like for real.
On Twitter or Instagram or what?
All of them.
I mean, Facebook is a... Yeah, that's what i was gonna say facebook that's after i quickly realized like instagram and
twitter was like okay that's handled i realized like i have a much better chance at reaching out
to people close to me who think differently than me so i was dedicating a lot of time posting
but i never go on Facebook, man.
So when I started going on, I was like,
oh, this is a really toxic place.
Yeah.
Facebook is where it's at.
You will get stuck in Facebook forever.
I'll be reading the comments.
So I do read the comments and I'll be laughing.
And sometimes I'll find myself writing stuff like,
ah, bitch, don't you say that.
And it's like oh no i said delete
delete delete delete delete delete delete it's just like what what's the point what's the point
we obviously disagree and there's nothing i can say to make you feel any different if you don't
feel different now it's still gonna take you a minute for you to come around but all i can
continue to say is black lives matter so you hear it and so that annoys you a little bit
i want it to annoy you if it annoys you you should probably get checked out because that's not it's
not saying that all lives matter we just want you to understand that black lives matter
i think there is something to be said though for like because like i'm like i'm not trying to argue
with like still trying to be like pc i don't want to i don't want to say all trump supporters feel
a certain type of way but like let's say let's say, I don't know, hypothetically, let's say
avid Trump supporters are in line with like very specific ideologies like of the party. Right.
But it's like I'm like, OK, like they're set. You know what I mean? For the most part,
like it's going to take a lot to make change there. But I'm like my focus is on the people that are just like kind of indifferent they're like well the
fact that he was murdered is bad but and i'm like there's no but there's no but like like what is
the but like what is why are we talking about property like what the like those are yeah that's
my that's my that's that's my corner of the world that i'm just like shut up jackie my my dad my dad
always said you know whenever somebody says but they're taking away everything they said before
yeah you know yeah yo i like you but it's just like you don't like me like that then yeah there's
a term for that no what is it like but i can't remember like there's been so much good information
coming through on people's
Instagram stories and like on Twitter and stuff
there is a term for like when people say
yes your thing you said
but also
like just there's a term and I'm sure
Shane racist
assholeism
yeah
assholeism honestly
assholeism
assholeisms oh my god Asshole-ism. Yeah, asshole-ism, honestly. Asshole-ism.
Asshole-ism.
Asshole-isms.
Oh, my God.
Woo!
The conversations I've gotten into on Facebook,
I am not proud of them.
Like, not completely proud of them.
But it's just crazy.
It's really crazy.
I had to unfollow a few people. And it it's just like I'm not usually want to do that
but I just if we don't I'm not about to argue with you I just I look at what you post I'm
probably not gonna respond I'm not gonna say and if it doesn't match up or link up with what I'm
like saying right now I'm just I don't need to I don't even need to look at it and I'm not gonna
argue with you there's no need for me to argue. You are where you are.
I'm where I'm at.
But I'm also just going to move myself out of the picture so that I don't upset myself and stress myself out.
And that's another thing.
We have to take care of our, like, mental health in this time, too.
And that's something that I've always struggled with.
But I remember the first day this started, like, when everything started to get crazy.
I remember I would be, you know, on the phone talking to a friend about something. And then
I would like start watching the news or like start looking at posts and I would cry. And then I would
find myself like out of it, you know, like trying to get out of it. So I would call my friend,
laugh a little bit. And then I would come back in and just like start to cry again. It was like a
big emotional roller coaster. And I feel like we're all going
through and it doesn't matter if you're black, white, yellow, red, brown, purple, like Barney,
like we are all feeling all of this energy right now. And like, I mean, black people have been
feeling this energy for a minute, forever. Like we were born into this energy. But like, I can
only imagine how y'all feel right now. And I know y'all don't want to feel racist. And like,
it's so many levels to all of this, y'allall and a lot of the times we're not even using the word
racist right but just to you know get our points across it's like levels to it and we be like
racist like we can't wait to use the word honestly and i'm just trying to even um educate myself on
how i can do things better and i do realize a lot of my fan base a lot of our fan base because of Smosh is white
so like I have to watch how I speak to them because
I don't want to start going off because they don't
disagree with me but I also like
I also don't want to just let
people say crazy shit on my
pages you know but I also can't
say anything because if I say something I'm gonna
I'm gonna be mean and I want
to educate and all I can do is just
by keeping on posting
and just letting you see where I stand and not having anything to say after the fact I think
there's like a kind of like a burden to that there's a I mean there's the burden of like
already being black like there's everything that you're born into like generationally right but
it's also like a lot of my friends um who mean, like and this is like that's it's like they mean well.
But and they're like, what can I do?
What can I do?
And I'm like, that's not that's that's not my role in it.
Like, and it's so fucked up.
But it's like, you want me to be upset about this thing.
The fact that you're upset.
Now I have to walk you through how to be not upset about the thing that is affecting me.
Like,
and it's,
and it's like,
and everyone,
and all at the same time,
like everyone is so different too.
It's like,
not all black people are the same.
We're not all responding to this the same way.
You know what I mean?
Like some people want you to check in with them and they're like,
well,
they didn't say shit to me.
Like we're not friends.
It's like,
and then there's people like,
no check in on me.
Like I literally had to tell my friends,
I'm like,
please stop contacting me.
Oh,
I know.
I'm I did.
I was like, I know. I saw that post yeah yeah okay because for me I'm like the because then because then I I know
myself like immediately I'm like I'm okay and I'm trying to make them feel okay when I'm not okay
and it's like I'm like me telling them like I'm okay is for them and it's not for me so I just
like I just need to stop talking to people and just go through what i'm going through and then i'm like i will let you know what i need when i need it
and asking for that type of help for olivia hit me up and then a few other people hit me up and i
was like oh man people really care right now they actually give a fuck and then it got to a point
where more people started hitting me up my white friends and i started kind of feeling a certain
way they would hit me up day in and day out and i was like hold on let me like take a step back
they are actually showing that they care you know and i had to like take a step outside of myself
because i started to feel some type of way i'm like you don't hit me up this much i mean this
is how i always feel it's like no they're coming too they're starting to understand a lot more so
like all i can do is just meet them and just be like yo like thank you it really means the world to me i kept telling it means the world that you are
actually seeing like did it feel weird at first 100 but i had to like step outside of myself and
my understanding and be like this is what they understand now yeah i mean yeah from my perspective
like i felt semi-aware of that reaching out you, Keith, because like something about the way you're texting.
I was like, OK, I like I can see like this maybe seems weird.
Like I have seen posts of of of texting like, oh, check in on your people, like check in with your friends of color.
Like and I did see that and was like, yeah, I obviously want to check on my friends.
But I also like I can understand that it feels a little uncomfortable
that you're being singled out like that.
But yeah.
But it's just like, it's all about like.
We're coming to.
That was a great way of saying it.
Coming to.
Just coming to an understanding.
Like I'm understanding where you are.
You're understanding where I'm at.
You know what I mean?
Like I can't battle everything.
This is not what I need to battle.
That's not the battle right now. You you know you asking me if i'm okay which i do like still
agree like i felt like how jackie felt at first but i went another way with it but like her way
of dealing is still fucking valid because i have the same reaction we have yes like y'all have
very specific needs like and it's like everyone has specific needs all the time you
know what i mean so we're not all gonna be responding to things um the same way like the
way some of my friends have supported me they've just been like they've sent me like money on venmo
they're like make sure you eat today and i'm just like you're right because i was skipping meals
i was like i kept forgetting to eat like I was I had no appetite yeah I had
no food in my house like I wasn't taking care of myself and it's like small stuff like that or just
like one like there was a couple days when my friends like I had we'd already been like
quarantined and like we'd been like super conscious about like the the virus and stuff
but they just like picked me up from my house and this is when the curfews were come were together and like we're gonna go to a protest we didn't end up going but then i just like spent
the night with them like at their place and just like they like made me dinner they made me
breakfast and like we just like did stupid like we played like horse like horseshoes i'm like
just like being able to just it's like you can support.
I want to support a horseshoe.
We played horseshoes.
We played cards.
Like just like and it's just like you can be supported in different ways.
And like I'm like, I just really appreciate.
I really like even though I'm like, please don't like text me because I'm already back.
But but just like the way my friends have shown up for me, like I appreciate it and I recognize it, too.
And like there was one day when I was crying and it's just like because I was like, really, I was so sad because I'm like, damn, like that.
My support system is so strong. And it's like, and I was just like, damn, like the fact that not everyone has like the same type of support system
right now.
It's just like,
it like made my heart hurt.
Just like thinking about it.
Cause I'm like,
I know my,
I'm like,
my people got me.
Like,
I know I'm like,
don't talk to me.
Don't talk to me.
I'll hit you up later.
And like,
look,
we have that.
That's great. It's like, not everybody has has that and it's like also recognizing that and jackie i have a question what's that who are
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I'm extensive.
That's the thing.
This quarantine has made things so much harder.
Like normally your friends would be able to take you to a meal or something.
But also I feel like the quarantine kind of helped in a way because people aren't working.
People are homeless going on.
So they're able to show up.
Exactly. If the quarantine wasn't going on, people would be at work.
I had to, I don't think that I would, if I had something to do, I don't think I would like have gone out there.
You know what I mean? The fact that we have been cooped in our houses
for so long, everybody is
able to see like, you know, like the way that
they see it now, you know, they don't have anything
to do. You know,
that's exactly why because if people are
at work, they're not going to stop making money to
go protest. They're
not. That's exactly why.
The quarantine, like COVID
although it's killed some people and like a lot
of people it's killed a lot of people like no it killed a lot of people no although it has it's
been somewhat of a like uh i don't know i opened an experience for so many different people it's
weird it's like this i don't want to call it a blessing because it's not been a blessing for so
many people but it's definitely been uh sort of a blessing for other people it's it's it's not been a blessing for so many people but it's definitely been a sort of a blessing for
other people it's it's it's like finding your light within it y'all because all of this 2020
has been something like vicious it's been crazy we don't know what's happening next y'all aliens
are definitely about to come and show out show up and show out and i'm just trying to go the right
side that's all i'm trying to do like Like Keith Lee phone home. You don't know.
Oh my God.
But COVID definitely
stepped,
came on in
and stepped up.
Yeah, dude.
It's true.
Like people are dying.
Like, oh my God, dude.
Did I tell you?
So Keemstar,
like he was,
he was frustrating me.
I don't care.
I will talk a little bit
of smack on Keemstar right now.
He's a drama alert. I know Keemstar right now. Go out.
I don't know who that is.
I know Keemstar.
Yeah, he's a drama.
He's a drama alert.
He's had a lot of controversy, especially lately because Ethan Klein, H3H3, like really
went in on him.
And it's been like so much drama between them two.
And like he wasn't, and I'm sure his audience is probably a little racist, but he wasn't
like posting a lot of like helpful stuff online at all. It was very likemz style like oh shit this cop just wrecked this dude it was really
frustrating and then one day he's like guys i decided that i'm gonna reply to every tweet of
h3h3s with a horse so that he becomes a better person and stops hating me like that was his
tweet and like i literally replied with the picture of kourtney kardashian
being like kim there's people that are dying because i'm like that's that's one of those
times where it frustrates me people are using their platform wrong right now yes no it's like
i mean definitely like you know i like to post memes and i like to make lighter situations with
humor serious situations with humor you you know. But it's
definitely a level of respect
that comes with it.
And you know what I mean? It's not a joke.
It's not a joke. You know what I mean? There can be
light found within and we can laugh
at certain things, but this is not a joke,
man. Like, I don't know
who that person is, but I hope that he can, like,
understand that it's a serious issue.
You know, whoever he is. I don't want want smoke i don't like all that drama stuff i look i put on gloves
no i'm playing like i'm just saying i don't like to fight either but like whoever you are out there
like i mean have some respect i think he's gotten a little a little better oh okay good about it for
sure much love brother whoever you are out there but But yeah, that horse tweet, I was just like, dude.
Yeah, it's too far. Come on. Who cares?
People are dying.
But that was what made me so, I think I felt the most joy that day was like when we were out in the crowd and Jackie, you were like goofing around and you were making Keith and Shane laugh so hard together. And I can't tell you, I can't even remember the last time I heard that in person.
Keith and Shane laughing together.
My damn apartment for months.
I pet Olivia's dog.
That was my first time petting a dog in like four months.
That was the best day.
That was the best day of 2020.
And there's a pandemic and police brutality.
But can we talk about how like
we like to find like light and like humor
within things it's like we're not laughing at the
circumstances at hand
certain things happen I was talking
about it somewhere I'm like yo like
when we were protesting the first day
the first day I went out there somebody
tripped and almost fell I'm gonna laugh you know i'm yeah i'm gonna laugh i'm gonna laugh at your ass and i'm gonna keep it moving i'm
like i see you i see you better keep up you gotta have fun who says that you cannot have fun
like i refuse to go to something like you, you know, and not enjoy myself.
Yeah.
Like, the energy is to, you know, Shane felt uncomfortable.
He was like, I don't want to, like, you know, be seen laughing and people think that I'm not serious.
I'm like, bro, you're with me.
You are fine.
We are here saying their names.
You know what I mean?
We are here protesting.
We are bodies here.
But if something happens funny, I'm not a robot.
I'm a laugh.
Look, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's funny. I'm telling a robot. I'm alive. Look, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's funny.
I'm telling you.
Some people smell at the protest.
It's like, come on, bro.
You got to put on some deodorant.
I know.
And then seeing people like that.
Remember we saw the red Power Ranger up on the light post?
Like, right?
And it's like, that makes me happy.
That makes me happy.
It made me be like, should I put on my She-Ra costume?
Come on.
Are we cosplaying right now?
You can come to these protests.
Like, come as you are.
You can come however you want.
Well, hold on now.
Do not come in there with a KKK uniform.
Like, you might make that not peaceful.
Like, don't do that.
Be very smart about it.
But, like, people, you can come in in costumes.
I mean, I wouldn't.
But, I i mean do whatever
we just want support we want love we wanted like we want to show love we want peace and hair grease
you know what i mean like it's a it's a very pleasant yeah and even on social media it's
like that too like we're getting serious we want justice we're sharing all the right stuff and then
then the people start sharing like really like memes that really help you
feel like,
Oh yeah,
we're doing this together.
This makes me feel good.
Like TikTok is,
TikTok has actually been all right.
I think they're,
they're like kids are kind of upset because the algorithm will change and
they'll like not allow black lives matters content to like show.
I've seen that.
It's frustrating,
but like,
I think,
I don't know.
I think they're like on a fine line.
It sucks.
It sucks. But the meme, the meme culture of this movement is awesome yeah we gotta have
some light we have to have some light that's what it's about you have to have some light in the
midst of the darkness and we have to love on each other we have to come together um and just just
love on each other and just hear hear people out. Just actually listen.
Your truth to, like, my white brothers and sisters or other whoever, like, your truths aren't everyone else's truth.
So when people are complaining or they're yelling really loud and they're crying and they're upset, like, really hear them out because they're not making it up.
It's like, you know, there yeah privileges out there that you will not
understand that you have them because you have them yeah and when you just it's here listen be
be a student be a student you know this all this that's going on isn't going on for no reason like
it's not just happening for no reason like buildings aren't burning for no reason like
i'm not saying that yeah agree with it no but you're right for a reason and once you just listen and open up and just hear somebody
yelling like yo i mean just listen listen and just be open open to open be open to change
be open to change be open to change and be open to unity. Absolutely. My mom, yo, can I tell you
Keith 2020.
I was okay. Actually,
I was going to say that
with everything that's been going on, my mom
called me something. She called me
Martin Luther Keith.
Oh my God.
She was like, look at you.
Martin Luther Keith.
I want to write that somewhere, but I don't want to be disrespectful.
That's funny, man.
I don't know what my mother's laughing at.
I know.
Martin Luther King.
If someone's going to try and cancel you, I fucking care.
If they tried to, they could try.
I'm not about to be upset by some, let me stop.
I ain't worried about it.
You know, Martin Luther King, I've't worried about it. You know I'm Martin Luther King.
I've been out in these streets.
Yeah.
That's positive.
I, um, what?
Beep beep.
No, I don't know.
Beep beep?
I thought I wanted to say something.
Keith and I call each other Beep beep.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
From a scene we did years ago.
Okay.
I get it.
You've worked together for a long time.
Oh, Shut up J
Can I have a nickname
You can be BB too
I called you Jack earlier is that weird
No I love it
I'm gonna call you Jack-a-lancer
Oh please don't
Jack-a-lancer
Cause you're the light in our life
Exactly you got a light that's coming out
You know what I'm saying
I'm calling you Jack from now on, dude.
You can call me Jack. Okay, when
I was younger, though, people would call me Jack-O-Lantern
around in October.
And I would just feel like
it would be in October. And I would just feel like
just, I was like, I am being bullied.
Okay, yeah.
I gotta work hard. I do bully sometimes.
But Jack-O-Lantern, like, if I'm the
light in your life, I'll take that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
You have been a nice light.
Speaking of
what you were saying about student stuff,
I got some reading to do.
Yes!
White Fragility!
It is out!
I've ordered so many books, guys.
Class is in session guys I'm I'm
I'm
classes in session
and I'm in front row bitch
well you need to get off
and go read those
I'm in front row bitch
yeah
we're not gonna
I know you're about to
be on set
so I know you're not
gonna have enough time
to read all that stuff
right now
so we need to get off
and you need to go read that
right now
and report back to me
I will
give me a pop quiz
yeah we're
not going to do a shoot dude today because it's not about that
today it's not about that
yeah so I love
you guys thanks for hanging out and thanks for
chatting
you guys are great alright before we go
we do have a place if you guys are looking
for places to donate we are still
we still have a fundraiser with
the NW
the NAACP for places to donate we are still we still have a fundraiser with the nw the the and the n-double-a-c-p
it's if you want to donate there on the like the link is below our video on youtube of the podcast
and it's also been on a bunch of other youtube videos which i heard that when we started
supporting black lives matter publicly on our youtube, Smosh Games lost a ton of subscribers. And honestly, good riddance because what the fuck?
Good lord.
And also there's other places beyond the NAACP
that you can donate to.
So there's like, I mean, Google is your best friend.
Like really like check them out.
Bail bonds.
Yeah, all the situations.
Check your sources, sources.
Check to see like what's good.
A lot of influencers, including myself,
have Instagram story highlights.
I've just been accumulating all the stuff that I've learned.
Even if you don't have money to donate,
there are videos where you can just watch them
and the AdSense will go toward a cause that is awesome.
And then, yeah, places to donate.
There's petitions to sign
there's twitter has been an accident books to read absolutely i believe i've posted those in
my instagram story as well i'm not trying to self-promote but you guys are as well been posting
great stuff um yeah i would also recommend uh following black lives matter because they're
they're i mean it is they've started this movement.
So if you ever just like, what is their mission?
And like making sure that you're actively following them, looking at their website,
seeing like how they're activating in your city.
A lot of the chapters have their own specific media for social media for the specific cities
they're in.
So like I'm following Black Lives Matter LA're what they're doing and like looking at like your local issues too because
it's like it is a national it's fuck it's a global issue but yeah like looking at how you can activate
locally um it's also super important making sure you're showing up to vote if you're yes a voting
age making sure you're knowing like who your candidates are everybody has a role there's
always a way to do your part and there's so many ways you can do it.
And also take care of yourself.
It's for real.
Be safe out there in these streets.
Or at home,
wherever you are.
We love you guys.
Be safe in the streets.
Be safe in the sheets.
And remember to stay black.
Woo woo.
Woo woo.
I love you,
Bebe.
Yeah.
Oh, you didn't say that. I didn't. I said it. I said it. I'm sorry. We love you too BB. Yeah. Oh, you didn't say that.
I didn't.
I said it.
I said it.
I'm sorry.
We love you too, BB.
Am I trying to like, you know, when you're like trying to get too included, like, yeah,
I mean, I love you too.
BB.
Shut up.
Yeah, it's a little weird, but come on.
Okay.
Thanks, friends.
I love you, friends.
Love you.
Love you guys.
See you at the next protest.
See you at the next protest see you at the next protest
see you okay
okay
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