Smosh Mouth - S2: #80 - Talkin’ Twitch!

Episode Date: September 16, 2020

Smosh is now on Twitch! Ian, Damien, and Sarah are answering all of your questions about Smosh Games on Twitch, experiences with live streaming, and the strategy for avoiding burnout.  Check us out on Twitch every Monday, Wednesday, Friday at https://twitch.tv/smoshgames Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Find a Michelin TreadExperts dealer near you at TreadExperts.ca slash locations. From tires to auto repair, we're always there. TreadExperts.ca. Ramble. I think some people have like this like warped sense of like, oh, when you're when you run out of ideas, it's over. People have been telling me that Smosh ran out of ideas in 2007. Nobody's seeing this, but you're really wanting someone to tell you something nice and they're not doing it. So you see me and so you sort of have to bring me down a peg or two. It's not OK that you're doing that, but I do understand why you got there.

I love Twitch because it feels like you're peeking behind the curtain. You are getting as close to like a real shoot in real time. Validation doesn't come from the outside. It comes from the inside. What is your worth in the world? Only you can find it. No one can tell you any different.

Damn straight, Sarah Whittle. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's up gamers and non-gamers and people that don't even know what a gamer is? I think you covered everyone. Well, I think I covered everyone. There's like three categories of people. Non-gamers.

I don't know if this introduction was better than you belching into the microphone or whatever. That wasn't a belch. It was a scream. That was me expelling all the sputum from my throat. Sputum? Sputum. Sounds like a German dish. Oh, Spätzle.

Ich möchte Spätzle essen. Ich möchte. Mit Schweinefleisch. We should just do a whole podcast speaking in German and then Ian will just not know what's happening. Ich meine lieber. Does that mean something? I my love. I my love. I my love. I'm my love.

I'm my love. I imagine you like disheveled in Germany. Yes, exactly. Just like, please, I'm my love. I'm my love. They're like, would you like some beer? And I'm like, I'm my love. So why are you naked?

You did it. I'm my love. How did are you naked? You did it. I, my love. How did you and I have the same mental image of you just half naked in Germany begging people? Like the second you said, I, my love, I'm like, yep, that's what that comes from. You guys spend so much time together, you've synced up.

That's true. We're best friends. When I'm in Germany, I hope I'm half naked. Okay. This is the German way. I feel like that's what's gonna happen. I hope I'm half naked. Okay. This is the gentleman way. I want to, I feel like that's what's going to happen. If I ever,

if I ever make my way to, um, Oktoberfest, we had talked about that this year. I was going to go this year. That was my 2020 plan. We were all going to go this year then. You were going to go this year too? I think it was.

Oh, that would have been insane. That would have been straight up bonkers. I talked about, I talked about wanting to go. Yeah, I was going to go this year. That's a bucket list.

And Kevin was planning to go too. Apparently, we're all going to do a pilgrimage to Germany this year. We're going to take a smosh pilgrimage. Not this year because that sounds really unsafe. Oh, because of the global catastrophe. Yeah. Yeah. The Bitcoin is low.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to do Oktoberfest. It'll be fun. It Bitcoin is low. Yeah. Yeah. I want to do Oktoberfest. One day. This year, honestly, I was like planning to go to Japan in the spring. We were going to go to Germany and Italy for a wedding. This year was going to be the year of me traveling. Oh, man.

I got all my travel wigglies out right before everything hit the fan. I know, but we were in Australia. Dude, I traveled more than I've ever traveled in the first three months of 2020. You did. I got it all out, baby. And we went on tour. And we went on tour, yeah. I went to a lot of places and really filled out my dating profile with really cool travel photos.

So I look super interesting. Sowing your seed across the world. Damien, I like how your thumb matches your hat. Thank you. I coordinated. For those that are listening and not seeing this right now, Damien is wearing this very nice purple Twitch hat and he appears to have a matching purple cast on his thumb. It's more like a wrap.

I did a terrible job. It looked great before this morning, but I had to rewrap it. So Damien, why do you have a Twitch purple wrap on your thumb? You tried the Thanos snap and you did it too hard. That's true. It reversed and I had Ron Weasley's wand and it reversed

upon me. No, so I was making an awesome sandwich last night with a really hard baguette and I started cutting it on the table as you're supposed to do and I couldn't really get it started. And so I lifted it up just to like start

the most gentle like corner of the bread just to get a little, a little bit. How stale is this bread? It was like a day old, but it's a baguette. Baguettes can have really crushed crust. I know they're crusty, but they should be like- What kind of knife were you using? Were you using a bread knife?

Are you gonna let me get the, yes, I was using a bread knife. It was a proper bread knife. I don't think you were using a bread knife. I was using the, oh, you wanna look at the cut and tell me whether or not i was using the red bread knife um so i held it up to start the corner and it immediately slipped and um sorry for squeamish people check back in in three minutes i've got a nice little like sort of wraps

around from like the left side just under my fingernail to like the right side a little closer like midway to the knuckle it was was a lot. Yay, yay, yay. So it stayed on. Oh, so it stayed on, yeah. But initially when I looked at it, I was just like, ah damn, I feel like an idiot. And I went upstairs and I have my own like liquid stitches stuff.

So I like painted it on real quick and it immediately was like not working. And I was like, ah man. And then I moved a little bit and I saw the actual situation I was dealing with. And I was like, okay, time to go. Yeah, so. That makes me so squeamish.

I'm sorry, but. No, no, no, keep going. But thankfully, it was an urgent care that I really like and I was the only patient in there. Oh, that's nice. It was awesome. And they were like, we don't know if we can do this. You usually need like a hand specialist for stitches

but we'll at least take a look at you. And the person that took a look at me was like, oh, we can just like dermabond you, which is like skin glue. And I was like, that's dope. It's just super glue, right? I mean, more or less. It's kind of like,

it's probably just high powered liquid stitch. I literally asked, I was like, can I get this over the counter? And they're like, not quite. I was like, damn. Oh, interesting. Cause I think that's how super glue was invented. It is, yeah.

In Vietnam, it was invented as like a field medic kind of way of closing up wounds. It's pretty bonkers. That being said, don't use super glue unless you're in a survival situation. There are better options. Yes. Yeah. So it didn't hurt in the moment. But then once adrenaline wore off, it was a little rough.

And when they had to clean it out, they used like a really high power, like of like water. And so they were like, hold this bucket under your hand, please. And I was like, what's the bucket for? And they were like, okay, just tell us if you need a break. And I'm like, what's the bucket for? And it just- Like your tears. That hurt a lot.

Yeah, more or less tears. It reopened like a minute before the podcast started so that's why i had to wrap it yeah but they were like we can't do anything for you for another few hours of the urgent care so i was like i'll do the podcast um so you just start getting lightheaded in the middle of the podcast yeah i was extremely tired for the rest of the day yesterday and i was like think I need, usually they give you juice and a cookie. So I need to. I did almost like one time I had to do like a fasted getting my blood drawn thing.

And they took, I think like four or five vials out. And like by the third one, I was like, guys, I'm feeling lightheaded. But I mean like the vials, like the vials does it, I mean, when you're donating blood, you're giving way more. I know, but I was fasting for 12 hours. Oh, you're fasting. Yeah, because it was the blood test needed me to be not have food in my system.

And so they took so much blood and I have very thin blood already. And it was like I felt getting myself getting woozy. And I was like, guys, we got to quit doing this pretty soon. I'm feeling weird. That reminds me of the John Mulaney joke when he's talking to the nurse and I was like, guys, we gotta quit doing this pretty soon. I'm feeling weird. That reminds me of the John Mulaney joke when he's talking to the nurse and he's like, hey, I get a little woozy when I give blood and the doctor's like, you're fine.

So when I woke up, I. And he had, like he was wearing glasses to show that time had passed. Exactly. Oh, that John Mulaney. You didn't even introduce us to this podcast. I didn't even introduce you guys. Or what this podcast is.

No, I didn't. God, let's start over. So maybe we'll put this at the beginning. What's up, everybody? You can't do that now. This is Ian Hecox here on the Smoshcast, joined by two lovely people, Damien Haas, at Damien Haas Gamer Boy 19.

Nope. Someone's going to take that. Someone's going to take that. You're right. That's just Damien Haas. Also joined by the illustrious Sarah Whittle. Yeah, that's my name. Is that your name?

Yeah. Sarah Gamer is my gamer tag. Please, Sarah Gamer was my father. Please call me Mr. Professor Dr. Sarah Gamer. Today we're going to be talking about Twitch, about the fact that we launched a Twitch channel last week. Well, I mean, it's last week to us right now, but it's two weeks ago for you guys. Oh, God.

Two days before this, after tomorrow. For those of you that don't know, so the reason why we thought it would be good to have myself and Damien and Sarah on is because Damien is sort of our resident Twitch boy. I'm a Twitch boy. Damien has spent, I guess you could now say years. Almost two years.

On Twitch. Wow. Yeah. Time flies. Almost two years on Twitch. I already owned this hat before today. And then Sarah is our director of Unscripted. So she has taken on a lot of this Twitch responsibility

in regards to programming and like what we do on there we also have it we also have another guy uh who you guys might have like seen pop into streams like his arm and stuff lane who's who's like running the the day-to-day sort of like twitch operations but i don't know if we talked about like uh since like the couple of times i've been on the podcast my like job role and that it changed at the top of the year so that's right i used to be uh ahead of the social team and kind of like all the non-youtube programming and then at the top of the year hopped over as director on unscripted to oversee smosh pit and smosh games and and now twitch Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Hells yeah. So actually, we have a couple questions here.

Oh. Yeah, yeah. We fielded some questions related to our Twitch. Some of you guys have some burning questions. Know that some of the popular questions, if we don't get to them, we see them. They're a work in progress. We see your questions.

We are not ignoring them. They are all a work in progress. So if you see something that we haven't answered that has been asked a lot, trust us. We see it. We're working on it. Find four more ways to say it. We have come across some questions. Did you say WAP? Yeah, work and progress.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that Cardinal Beatrice song. So this first question comes from Lovable Haas. Hey. What a opposite. No, I'm just kidding. It's true. A face only a mother could love.

But she is all one million of our viewers so i like that one million moms one million moms marzine that sounds like a really good like protest cbs show cbs show welcome back to one million moms like damn that's an expensive show it's literally just like one studio, just packed full of one million moms. It's singled out, but with moms. All right. So this lovable Haas asks,

what are your goals for the Twitch channel? Sarah, I guess being that you are, this has sort of been a, it's not your one responsibility and it's not all on you, but being that it is like smosh games is a focus for you what what are some what do you see as some of the goals for the twitch channel uh well just in general like adding twitch to smosh and the whole smosh like brand i guess

is what you would say like it's a huge deal it's basically like opening up a whole new YouTube channel. And so we're now in a place where we're kind of like building this thing from the ground up. That's completely different than what we've done before. We've done live on Facebook for a while, but that was at Defy. And obviously that was structured very differently. And so this Twitch thing is like a new, exciting challenge that we're all kind of having to face. And luckily, we have people like Damien who have been on the platform and know the in and outs from like personally running it. But now we're figuring out, okay, doing Board AF. And like last year or no, earlier this year, it's the same year, we had the first episode of Board AF come out. And, you know, I think the YouTube viewers and our fans were expecting like a more consistent thing, not knowing that we were kind of planning

this big thing to go on Twitch and bring more consistent board AF. And so I'm really excited about that. I'm really excited about like the viewers and the subs having the ability to affect gameplay in real life, because sometimes when we're shooting the Smosh Games videos, it feels like we're crazy people entering a studio. We do our crazy thing and then the edit comes out like three weeks later now we're having an opportunity to like react and be in the moment and be present all in real time for sure that's really exciting for me and then we are going to be cutting down those board afs to go

on the smosh games youtube channel just in case people missed it. So that's what I'm really excited for. And like, as far as the goals for Twitch, it's just kind of like to try what we do and innovate what we do on Twitch on a live platform. And it is a challenge. And we are we have things that were our work in progress. We have things that are WAP. And that's kind of like the great thing is, is like all of our fans are like along for the journey you know like we're you're gonna see us grow and adapt and learn new skills and figure it out and I feel like live is a little more forgiving that we can just be like Lane what's the next thing yeah yeah yeah if it's a flat or a squeal a wobble or peel your dreads

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I started right after Defy shut down and immediately fell in love with it. For my own channel, it was the first thing I'd ever done that felt like it was mine. Like I, as a voice actor, as a, you know, as a, you know, YouTube personality, I've always come into something that's already existed. Even like when I was on Disney, Shane and I joined the last season of a show. So it was nice to be able to be like, I'm starting this. And I just fell in love with it. And that's, I consistently want to do it all the time.

So I was very precious with it when we first started talking about doing Twitch as Smosh. I've had a lot of people that are part of the community that found me just randomly through the Explore page or through knew me through other things or for voice acting, things like that. But a lot of people are Smosh folks. So I was initially like, well, shoot, like I already do this thing where I'm like sitting in front of a camera playing a video game. I don't I don't want to see us do the exact same thing because I don't I don't want to lose my community. Like I was, you know, legit worried. But I think what is actually exciting about this and what I want to see and what it seems like we're doing is what can Smosh do that I cannot? What can Smosh do that the average one person with a camera in their room can't do?

Because even if I had a big grandiose idea and put together something, I could make that happen. But to have a team working on it, to have multiple cameras, to have a studio, to have a tech squad, it's the free, there's so much more freedom of movement there. So like, yeah, I don't, I'm, I'm less excited about like, I don't think we're going to be doing like one person on a camera playing a video game kind of deal. I'm excited to see a group of people play a board game together. Like that's awesome. That's, that's critical role. That's, that's other popular channels. And I, you know, it's also nice to not have to, although I'm like offering expertise, quote unquote, when I can, it's not on me to like start to finish set up. What am I going to be doing today? How am I going to get this to work? So there's a little bit of like freedom of movement there too. So that's exciting.

This is something that we have been planning for a long time. Like it wasn't something that we just looked at Twitch and we're like, oh, people are successful over there. We can do that too. Like this is something that we've been planning for a long, long time. We spent a lot of time preparing for it, getting the right team for it. it got delayed because of covid and kind of yeah the uncertainty of of that situation yeah i mean we were supposed to launch like months ago i think we did the right thing by by holding off and just making sure everything was everything was truly ready to go we want to give you guys the best possible experience right from the get-go so and also doing it in a safe, responsible way to like, totally.

That's a priority. That's a priority that like, you know, none of us anticipated at the beginning of this year. But that's like that now has completely changed productions at every level, even like from the Goldbergs. Yeah. Big productions like that to small productions like YouTube companies or podcasts or whatever. I don't know if this is too inside baseball, but just like to double down on how safe we're being.

I wasn't able to be in the stream yesterday because I didn't get a COVID test in time. Like we want to be safe and have everybody be on the up and up and all that stuff. And because I wasn't, it's like, all right, well, then we don't have you. You know, Damien, as you were saying, the difference between like your, your stream and, and, and our stream, it is that like, we, we want to be able to deliver what we see as sort of like the, you know, without, I mean, there's no way to say this without sounding cheesy, but like deliver the Smosh experience. Like you get a certain experience from, from Smosh videos on YouTube. And whether it's on Smosh games or Smosh pit or the main channel.

And we wanna give that same kind of like special experience on Twitch, our sort of interpretation of what a live experience should be. I think it's not something wholly new. It's not something that like we went in and say, no, we're gonna do it our way. Like we still took a lot of advice from Twitch and from the people that do it successfully.

I think one of the best nuggets of advice that I think we got from Lane, who's been streaming for a good long while and has done a lot of really creative things. He's like, this isn't like doing like Saturday Night Live or this isn't like doing a live show on television where you have to be on and just like fully engaged for three hours straight. Like it needs to be a little bit more relaxed. Like the audience is able the audience can accept you fucking up or or like you know yeah totally like i i that's that that was like the biggest thing was like i love twitch

because it feels like you're peeking behind the curtain and especially when it comes to what like we're trying to bring to twitch like you are getting as close to a real shoot in real time and you're not seeing any cuts and you're seeing the mistakes and you're seeing the flubs or the questions. And to me, that makes me feel like I'm a part of it. That makes me, as a viewer, it makes me feel like I'm hanging out with everyone. And that's why I really like Twitch.

Yes, very much so. I think also to the point of like damien's twitch channel versus like the smosh games twitch channel yeah i i i this goes for like youtube programming too when you look at it as a whole and i'm looking at like smosh pit and smosh games youtube programming it's like okay let's let's say like a trend is happening and it's like oh this this trend this youtube video trend is popping off we can't just produce or replicate what someone else is doing for our channel we have to figure out what is the smosh twist as corporate and lame as that sounds that's that's the creative process it's like okay, okay, this thing is trending. How can we put our smush spices on it to make it for our audience?

And I think as like a creative person that wants to like be a part of digital media, like that's kind of the analytical creative meeting each other. You got to get those both parts of those brains working together to like try and get the best result. And at the end of the day, you never know how the audience is going to react. And there's some extra expediency there as well. Like sometimes the way we produce things, there will be a trend

and we'll film it as soon as possible. But after like edits and the way our schedule already is, we're a month late. Whereas with Twitch, you can just hop right in. And to your point there, Sarah, I also think like what's been really cool

and what I've really appreciated is, you know know everybody is aware of how important my twitch community is to me and my ability to stream and all that stuff and they have it hasn't just been like yeah we hear you it's like i really do feel heard which is nice so i think that there has been um good communication like for example like you're just are you laughing at me or your cat no all three cats open the door and coming in. This is like that interview where they're like a little girl just hops it. But yeah, no, what's been good about like communication

is like, for example, when we were doing our big live stream extravaganza, Matt was like, hey, don't go anywhere. We're gonna be doing more stuff. Subscribe, cause you wanna check some things out and who knows, maybe we'll be doing some VR chat content. Damien you like that right and i was like uh-huh and like as soon as we were done i turned him i was like hey man i'm sorry i've actually been um teasing doing vr chat on my own streams for about a month now is that cool like and then it was like yeah of course so like we're

not stepping on each other's toes there's there's room enough there's room enough for everybody to have fun and other than those very rare situations like that it's just it's going to be different it's yeah and sometimes there's parallel thought and that's why those things are important to like communicate to each other because it's like you know there there is a world where it's like you might have mentioned it in a pitch meeting or not mention it at all and it pops in my brain one day and i say it and it's like, that's when like the communication and kind of like the non baggage conversation happens. And I think that's very vital and important. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's an interesting creative problem. Like the fact that most people that we follow on, you know, whether it's on Twitch or

YouTube or Instagram, they're all individual creators. There aren't too many sort of, there aren't too many like creative collectives like Smosh that exists. So there's not really a lot of other examples that we can draw on for what we do. I think it's great. Like I don't, I don't really ever seeing there being too much overlap between what you do on your, on your personal your personal Twitch and what we're doing. And I mean, from the little that we've done so far, I'm really excited to see what happens with the rest of the Twitch. I mean, like I said, we've been planning this for a long time. This isn't like a quick cash grab for us.

Like, it's, you know, it's a long-term thing. We're going to be here and we we're gonna keep making some sweet shit yeah and i i think when you say creative problem i think like for me when when that when you say that i just think of it's a challenge it's another challenge to kind of like face on and i think the best creativity comes out of a challenge um and you learn you learn the most from how creative can you really get with a challenge? The eat it or eat it. Spin the wheel is a perfect example of like being faced with a challenge and trying to troubleshoot and creatively thinking of a way. Because like the reason that format came out was when we were talking about coming back to the studio because we obviously all were quarantined and not shooting and we were shooting from home when we were like okay let's get back in the studio and

for me i was like i don't want everyone lunging for a bell when we're trying to like i know we're sitting close to each other and we're all we're all kind of taking the best precautions we can while we're on set but i'm like let's just take that layer out where we don't have to worry about you know going for a bell and, and yeah, and that's where the wheel was born. And, and,

and it was, and the fans loved it and the fans were inspired and had more suggestions, which I always think is a good sign that the creativity sparks more creativity. So that's like adding Garrett to the wheel, bleep it out, actually bleep out the last 10 minutes. Well,

why not? Why not tease it you guys suggested putting a little sliver for Garrett on the wheel just in case it lands on Garrett then he has to eat it and I love that idea I love that idea I think next time we shoot it I think next time we shoot it

or eat it we should make that sliver a little bigger maybe or maybe there are more twists coming we should have one monochromatic wheel and the color is garrett um okay i have more twists in the works right now if it's a flat or a squeal a wobble or peel your dreads worn down or you need a new wheel wherever you go you can get it from my tread experts. Until May 30th, purchase four new Michelin passenger or light truck tires and receive up to $70 by prepaid MasterCard. Conditions apply. Details at Michelin.ca.

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I worry a little about Damien since he streams three other days a week. With all your other content, this is a lot of work for everyone to take on. Oh, that's so nice of people to notice. That is very nice. Full disclosure, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's been an ongoing conversation. But when Twitch was originally pitched, you know, because Matt sat down with me and was like very earnest and he's like, look, this looks like a fun opportunity for us. But I know, you know, you care about your community and, you know, you doing it already.

We would do alternating days. So, you know, you wouldn't have to miss your own streams, you know, for our thing. And I was greatly appreciative of that. But that aside, my main concern immediately was like, man, I'm going to be tired. Like people I don't think realize. And I think a lot of the cast, honestly, who hasn't who haven't done live things before, didn't really realize how much it can really take out of you if sketch and pit filming things, you know, filming four sketches in a day and then going on to Twitch as I was worried I was going to straight up be dead. But that being said, you know, I've expressed all my concerns and I felt like they were really heard and were already being worked on before I even said anything, of course, because you guys care and already, you know, we're working on things. So it seems like, you know, we're every person is not going to be in every stream. They're going to really like shuffle around things for filming days where like it's not going to be in general a 12 hour marathon of things.

You know, there will be a day here and there that gets a little spicy, but we're honestly just going to have to see. And thankfully, because it's all of us doing it, it's not like there can't be a conversation about it. You know, I feel like if we do get to the point of like, hey, I'm flipping tired and this is every week, then we'll do something about it. Like, yeah, I think I think people's people's mental state is is the number one priority. We don't want to put anyone on live. That's that's like, oh, dude, I can't. But also also I think, you you know especially on the on the shoot weeks we'll have we'll have other cast as well i think people are going to be seeing other cast

mates in the streams as well so that's that that can then relieve some other people of of their of their streaming you know totally responsibilities on so i mean i think yeah obviously that that's that was our number one concern we started twitch was like can we even do this like we're already shooting so many other things and twitch is a large undertaking so so can we do this without burning out and i think we i think we we got to a place where where we think we we can and we want to like i said this isn't something that we that we're doing on a whim real quick like we want to do this for the long term so we in order to go for the long term we can't kill everyone yeah and and you know yeah and we're investing into that too because it's like it is something that we're work in progress uh on because it's

like we we have a whole new team we have new faces that are that are helping us build this twitch infrastructure and then meanwhile we have people in front of the camera and i think like this year if anything taught us like how to find each of our voices and and really communicate with each other when we're getting to a point of burnout and everything like that. I think it's- Totally. It's unfortunately a thin line between like, you know, working really hard and then getting

burned out. It's a thin line and that's where it's- It's quick too. Yeah. And that's when it's really important to check in with yourself and really figure out, okay, should I push through this or is this something that I really need to like step back and relax? It meant a lot also that you guys were open to listening about that because my initial worry, I'm a worrier, was, you know,

if I get really burnt out, there is only one thing that's in my control to change on my own, and that's my own streams. And I did not want those to fall by the wayside still don't like i i will not let that be like i sorry guys canceling again just sleepy don't want to do that so the fact that i was able to come to you and know that like hey i i'm getting tired is there something on our end together that i can chill out on and that people were receptive to that that was awesome i think like the most important thing is that, that we all have each other's backs in this and give it back.

Give me back my back. Sorry. No, I got your back. You know, that's, that's important to, to be able to trust that your team can,

can lift you up in places where, where, you know, you're having trouble. Yeah. That's the luxury of having a team is that you aren't aren't doing it all on your own. And you can't and you can't worry about every little thing because it's just that that's not the most efficient way to work in a team. And so

the great thing is, is if you're like, hey, I'm overwhelmed, or I have anxiety, or I'm worried about this, or I'm unclear about this. There's a bunch of people on camera and off camera that can like take the load for someone that's like having an off week or just needs the time or what. You don't even need an excuse. And so that's the luxury of having a team mentality. Like the premiere live stream is a perfect example. We were grinding hard. Just got out. You guys just got off of a perfect example. We were grinding hard.

You guys just got off of a week of shooting all of the sketches. And then we were diving into a week of Smosh Pit and Smosh Games programming along with the six hour Twitch premiere. And Lane and I, the producer, we were kind of going over what each minute of that six hour stream was going to be. And in the beginning, if people watch, you notice like I was doing a lot of kind of the like vanilla hosting type of things. And that's because I wanted you guys all to be able to just be present and live in the moment. I'll do all the homework and in that moment, take on that workload so that everyone can feel a little more relaxed and excited in the moment. And so those things happen. And then maybe next week I need a little more help.

And then the week after, Courtney needs a little bit of help. And that's like the fun, the great part. And that's what I love about teamwork. Speaking of balancing things, Sarah, I wanted to ask you this when we were in last question, and I totally forgot. You come up with a lot of ideas for Pit, for games, things like that. And now we have Twitch. So Twitch is very different in that there are cutdowns sometimes, but in the most part, it lives in a live setting and that's about it. So when you have an idea, are you ever like sort of precious with it? Like that you're like, oh, I need to save this for a

games video. Or are you like, oh, this is only going to work on Twitch. Like, how do you, how do you balance that? Well, to be honest, like we're figuring it out. Like, like I said, we have a whole new team on Twitch. We have a team for smosh games and smosh pit we have people who like kevin the shredder for example he helps a lot with pit and he's been helping with sketch lately like everyone's wearing a lot of hats during this time especially but just in general everyone wears a ton of hats i wear a ton of hats you i'm my main job is director i'm unscripted it is not anything to do with being on camera. And so that's not under my job duties at all. So it is a balancing act and we have a very talented

team. So luckily we have Lane and he has a ton of ideas. Matt and I are always just spitballing ideas and shutting each other down and hyping each other up with different ideas. And I think if you ever want to be either in a creative space or not a creative space, being able to let your ideas change is really important. And you really got to shove your pride aside. And it's like, there's been instances where I'm like, Oh, I fucking love this idea, but it's not good for like, a video and then like, what? And it's like you have to be able to be flexible with your ideas because no one's coming in to like shit on your idea no

one wants to come and be like your idea sucks and damon you and i have had like discussions like this where you pitch me an idea and i'm like okay that's a great start but this is where we need to like nip and tuck and make it a little more optimized or whatever. And of course it's subjective because it's a creative environment, but that's when you use your analytical brain and all the analytics you have and your creative brain and trying to put those together and find that sweet mix. Sometimes it hits and sometimes it doesn't. But at the end of the day, like, unfortunately, you got to check your pride at the door and accept that it might be rejected and everything like that. I think, you know, when you talk about you and Matt, you and Matt Robb, like, working

together and shutting each other down, hyping each other up, like, each of you are coming in with a different expertise. Exactly. Like, you each, like, have a expertise exactly like you you each like have a certain thing that you know and i and i think that's totally right you just gotta you gotta check your ego at the door and just accept that you know maybe you don't know everything and and be be open to other ideas and i think that's that's incredibly important yeah and like you know maybe independent creators have the luxury of just like, you know, coming up with their ideas, doing their ideas and putting it on the Internet. But our infrastructure doesn't doesn't work that way. But I can tell you, we I asked for ideas from everyone and anyone that wants to give them with the notion of like, this might change. So yeah, so that's just a part of the process because we do at the end of the day need

to think how can we make this the best it can be for what we're going for and so yeah and for a while i was running out of ideas it happens many times where i have kind of creative blocks and i can't think of anything and that's why the team's important yeah i think some people have like this like warped sense of like oh when you're when you run out of ideas it's over people have been telling me that smosh ran out of ideas in 2007 like you know it's like well it's a metamorphosis like a lot of people can't you can't what worked a year ago what worked 10 years ago probably won't work right now and that's why dancing with the stars has a new cast every season that's why dancing with the stars is complete ass i'm gonna say it

right now um but like that's the thing and sometimes i i'm the newest to the internet in this group i think but like you can't win necessarily because imagine if you were making the exact exact same kind of content that you did from 2007 where people are like i want the old smush except 13 years later all the comments would then be look at this grown-ass man acting like a kid he's still doing this he's still acting like that you wouldn't win it's it's so it just well it's it's growth you you know, and sometimes you hit, you know, second puberty and you're growing in a way that's not ideal, but at least you're learning to adapt and you have to metamorphosize as the time goes. What worked on Smosh Pit a year ago doesn't work now. So what is it?

That's a creative challenge that we need to like figure out. My question is creatively, how do we get your three cats to enter the room several more times it's it's a lose-lose if i shut the door they're just gonna be screaming i know leave the door open this is what we're gonna get i know so we have uh one more question here uh this one comes from three tyler k3 they asked is it more nerve-wracking being live than just recording it probably is because there's no cutting and it's real time lol love you oh thank you love you too actually i don't i don't but i don't know you so i can't say that i love you um but thank you you know what thank you for the We appreciate it. I hope you're being safe out there. For me, I know that like, it's probably different for everybody, but not at all. I prefer live

to scripted a thousand times over. I would always do like live improv as a teenager and young adult. That was my job when I was like a young adult. I'm way more, even when I did my Disney audition back in the day, they were like, prepare three characters. I was like, I'll figure it out when I'm there. Like, that's, I'm serious. That's crazy. But I'm way more comfortable with that than I am with like a whole page of like, this is what the character says. But it's just, it's what I like.

And so, yeah, a thousand times over i would do live i think i think for me my my perception of twitch has changed a lot over this year of talking about twitch i think to go back further um you know somebody somebody i know somebody had pointed out they're like wait didn't ian say that like smosh wouldn't really work on twitch because of like this, this and that. And I think that is something that I that I believed, you know, three, two, three years ago, whenever I said that. But my perception has changed. I had a very... Whoa, that's crazy. Your opinion changed? I know. With more information? Because I had this very narrow view of what Twitch was. I saw gamers playing by themselves and talking to chat

and just playing a game and just sitting there playing a game, which there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. But that's not- Good. Better not say there's anything wrong with that, Ian. Except for Damien Haas. But that's not something that that I'm interested

in doing for Smosh and I thought at that time that that was really the only thing that people really watched on Twitch I was like well then we can't do it but as I learned more about Twitch and saw the other creative people on Twitch doing things that weren't just gaming. Not that there's anything wrong with gaming solo on Twitch. I was like, oh, there's like a whole entire world here. Exactly. Yeah, people are, they're artists, there's musicians. I see people doing tarot card readings.

I want to do tarot card readings. I saw these girls, I saw these like, I think they're twins i forget their names but they were they were um vanessa and veronica something martin they were like they were freakishly painted like spongebob and patrick oh yeah they like sang a song about like a love song between spongebob and patrick so good and it was it was frightening um but also really funny. But there's so many out.

See that's what you saw and you were like, maybe this is a place for smoke. No, that was literally last week. But I think like, I had this very warped sense of like what Twitch was and it sounded very nerve wracking, like going live and like you have to be on all the time. And that's a very like YouTuber mindset of like, once the camera's on you you

cannot waste a single second you have to be like hey you know the the six hour live stream i was i was a little bit i was maybe a little bit on edge but now that we're just now that we're just live streaming like i like when we when we shot the most recent time, I was like, oh, I can just let myself go. Mm hmm. Hundred percent. Maybe I shouldn't have made the joke about if if you vote for Courtney, a small child dies. But, you know, hey, we're doing it live. We're all going to have our individual challenges on how we.

Yeah. Yeah. You have to adapt and what jokes you're going to make. I mean, I've had experience in live theater, both improv and scripted, of course, in like local theater in Wyoming, but still experience. I've worked for live television as well,

as well as pre-recorded television. And so I wasn't, I was nervous, but not in the way, like I always get the little like nervousness right like, a live performance that I don't usually get when we're recording YouTube videos. It's just a little, like, bit of adrenaline. As far as live goes, like, for me with that six-hour stream, I really was like, I just want to know what I need to know so that I can, like, go on. And I saw it as, like, a challenge again. I was like, okay, these are the things I need to know.

These are the things I'm kind of running. You know, that's the thing that Matt's running. That's the thing that Ian's running. Like if everyone gets their thing in check, then like we can forces combine and like do great. And make the Megazord and then save Angel City from- Exactly, we're the Avengers. And also it's like, I think it's our stream.

Like I can be, I can just be myself. Like I can just have fun with it. And I know that my team is, you know, you guys are gonna be there to support me on camera unless I make a really terrible joke and you guys all rag on me. We do, to distance ourselves as you get canceled. Yeah, exactly.

But I get these crazy nerves when I'm, if I go on somebody else's podcast, especially if it's like a live one. Yeah, because you don't have control then. I'm like, oh man, I gotta present this certain self and really watch what I say and I don't know what this audience is like. and really like watch what i say and i don't know what this audience is like i don't know what they think of me i don't know what sort of like

prejudices they have against me um but on it's our twitch it's our audience i'm just gonna give them myself and and i don't need i don't need to work hard to to be myself yeah exactly it's so what i'm saying is i'm not i'm just not gonna put any effort at all. But you kind of hit it on the head there. I think when you're coming from a performance background that is scripted or produced or what have you, even if you have all the creative control there, there's still a mindset of like, how do I make this thing good? Whereas with Twitch, being yourself is the key and also can be

the hardest thing if you're not used to that, because people are there to hang out with you in a live setting. And to me, that's really fun. And if you're being like the, hey, what's up gamers today, we have a good show for you. People click right off because you're not being real. I have only a little bit of that when I first start my twitch stream because i feel this amp of excitement so like even if i'm like what's up everybody like i'm actually that excited and that's fun that's fun for both parties um it's again like you're saying changing the mindset like it will not work for a live setting if you're trying to make it like host to host, host to host. I mean, it just goes down to like just be yourself and kind of like, you know, put yourself in the best mindset and present yourself the best way. But be yourself and anyone that likes it will like it.

And anyone that doesn't like it, like that's okay. It's not for you. That is okay. Like I'm not for you. I like cats and glitter and like bright colors. If that's not for you like that's okay it's not that is okay like i'm not for you i like cats and glitter and like bright colors if that's not for you that's okay you cannot like yes i have literally said that i have literally said that on stream because i if anyone's ever like trolling the chat i try my best to like get them actually on board because i'm like you're trolling because you're

like bored probably if you're doing it because you're bored like i mean we're all bored there's a bunch of us here that are bored and that's why we're doing this so but i've had situations where people are like you should do it like this or why do you do it like that and i've literally turned to the person in chat and just been like look man like i really like doing it like this it's fun for me and i think it's the way these people like it too if that's not for you that's a thousand percent okay like and i'm not trying to be passive aggressive here that is okay i'll do other things on different days check out those other days but if it's not your thing like thanks for popping in and saying hey and i wish you well exactly it's the same as like if i'm if i'm just scrolling through youtube and like oh i want to try let's find a new creator to

watch and eventually i figure oh i'm this is not really vibing with me or maybe I don't agree with what they say. I just click it off. I don't think there's any, you know, value in kind of shitting on what people like to do. My lights just like flickered on. But it's just like it's like clearly, you know, Damien, you're having fun on your stream. You wouldn't do it if you didn't like it because it's your own thing. Because it's a lot of work. If I came in and started shitting, why are you doing it this way? Like, why do we have to dim other people's lights in that kind of sense?

It's like, if I really enjoy cats and glitter and whatever, why do you got to come shit on my party if you don't like it? Don't. Like, just go away. Don't yuck somebody's yum. Damn straight. Have you seen that? There was like a TikTok going around a while back where like it was just a girl talking to herself But it's two different characters and they're just like I don't like your videos. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did

I don't like it. It's like okay. Well, you should watch someone else And they're just like yeah Was that a was that a woman personality? yes she's like a cosplayer or like cool makeup artist yeah yeah yeah it's much worse for women especially in that regard oh 10,000%

why are you so angry? why are you so angry at the content? I just like don't I think I mean Chrissy Teigen I like to quote her she was just like I think she tweeted the other day, you guys are like thieves of joy. Like I'm just enjoying this thing and you're just coming to shit on it

and I'm not hurting anyone. I'm just being like, hey, I like this brush. I like it. And then it's like, well, but you know, there's other brushes and you're like, okay, bro. Yeah. Like that's not this. I just like this brush. I have a, I have a friend that, that also has a,

has a YouTube channel and they're a woman and, and they posted something on Twitter and this guy just goes on this like whole rant about like, you know, you should post the link uh with this and this because it gets you more engagement on youtube and she's like yes i have been doing youtube for many years i understand how to use the platform yeah and that's how i view my personal social like i i obviously know how to optimize things i obviously know how to optimize things. I obviously know how to make things like do better online. And but for me, I am still able to enjoy social media as social media.

And for me, I feel like I'm sharing a piece of my life. You see my cats in my apartment. That's very private. If you're coming to shit on me, I'm blocking you. I'm sharing something personal that I enjoy and you're taking an opportunity to be a thief of joy. I don't want that. So I don't have a problem like blocking you because this is my thing. I'm enjoying this. Are you familiar with the ignore button, by the way? Because it'll change your life. Oh, the mute button? Ignore, especially for like messages on Instagram. If you get something that you're not a fan of or it's inappropriate or whatever, you can hit ignore.

So they don't even know they're blocked, but you'll never see anything ever again. Those are all same tape. So literally they will, I'm assuming, shout into the void their anger for years and it'll never reach you. It's incredible. It's just not the energy that you could be putting out there. Like it's not the energy that i've always believed i'm a big believer in what you put in the universe you get back and if you're putting that crappy

attitude out there like you're not and i'm not saying don't fight for the things you really believe in like if that's something there but like coming into my dms and either being creepy talking about my family talking about things that I just genuinely enjoy in a shitty way. I don't have time for that. Not even, not now, not never, not in 2020. Like get the fuck out with that attitude. Yeah, I think Hank Green had a really good tweet recently about the difference between getting hate and getting harassment.

Yes, it's not just relegated to women, but pretty much any woman online, on, online that has any, any small amount of following has gotten harassment, like full blown harassment. Um, I hope it changes one day. I really, I really hope so. I'm not going to put all my eggs into the basket of it will change, but I hope that uh i guess i guess uh you know i want to put it out there that if you're harassing women online we don't want you and if you're even questioning it if you're even just being like is this harassment or is this a little weird or is this taking too far don't fucking do it like don't do it and it's like obviously there are extreme cases and as as soon as i became on like we're showing up in more smosh

videos like it is kind of crazy the like unfortunate things that are happening and really like having to protect my mental health and create boundaries for myself and it really sucks that some of the things out there are out there example like fake nudes and stuff like that it sucks that that that is a thing and and whatever age men and women or whatever think that that's okay to do it's not okay to do and it's just not challenge yourself to be a better person because at the end of the day like some of these people are doing it for attention and that's kind of the difference between harassment and hate comments yeah you can kind of see it if you go to their

profiles it's like you see they're targeting multiple people and it's like so you're just not like what is this energy you're putting out there use your energy like for valuable things and like life, life is short. I put this on my Instagram story. Like life is really short. If you're

putting your energy into hateful, harassing, negative things, you're literally wasting everyone's time. You can understand a mindset without condoning it. Right. And which I think is an important distinction why like you can look at someone's profile and be like, they really need some attention. They're not getting anything. Like I got a really nasty comment the other day in a DM and I was like, that's for fun. Let's look at this person. And it was one of the rare cases where it was actually like a person and they actually used their own photo or whatever but all of their photos uh we were was like he was trying to like look toward the camera and be like like trying to be like suave and all that stuff and i'm like nobody's seeing this but you're

really wanting someone to tell you something nice and they're not doing it so you see me and so you sort of have to bring me down a peg or two like it's not okay that you're doing that but i do understand why you got there so work on it you know yeah there's a lot of unwell people it is social media and it's it it's too bad that you know it's social media kind of encourages that that behavior yeah it's a new thing of like validation kind of like outside validation is now more than ever, especially when it comes to influencers and everything like that. When we were growing up, there was no access to be validated on anything. Like, you were kind of validated by your inner circle, school, you know, bullies, teachers, your family, like, that's where you kind of like seeked validation and now you can seek it through through the world and you feel like everyone else is getting validation why can't i get validation and i think that's really important to rewire your brain that validation doesn't come from the outside it comes from the inside as cheesy as that sounds no it's true yes you gotta find

your worth in the world what is your worth in the world only you can find it no one can tell you any different yeah straight sarah whittle sing it from the rooftop queen but we're not by the way we're not giving you validation right now i'm just saying it's not going to my head at all because the whole time i was like i can't wait to hold my cats after this oh i was thinking very much that i can't wait to go to the bathroom. Well, then let's move it on to the end. So we're going to move on to the shoot, dude. We got a double shoot. Oh, sorry. I had a burp between my...

Double shoot, dude. Now is not the time to apologize for that. We got a back-to-back shoot, dude, baby. Shoot, dude. Shoot, dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude.

Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Ian, can you explain what a shoot dude is? Oh, sure. Yeah, I can explain what a shoot dude is.

When somebody does something and it's real real cringe or it's like oh no i felt really bad for you or it's just something where you're like damn you did that that is a shoot dude so this one uh this first one comes from matthew a few years ago i was working at target as a cashier and what seemed to be a mom and a child came through my register the mom told me it was her child's birthday and she was turning 12 years old trying to be friendly i excitedly said nice almost a teen the way it sounded though was nice almost 18 i was apologizing profusely as the mother gave me such a death stare No. Shoot, dude. Shoot, dude. Oh, that's a shoot, dude. That hurts me to my bones. 18. Oh my God, almost 18. Oh no.

Almost 18. That reminds me of like God. Dude, that happens to me so often though. Not the 18 thing we're coming across as creepy. What part of this happens to you? But no, sometimes I say things, because I'm a very blunt person, you guys know. It's my Korean mother in me.

Right. And just being very blunt. And sometimes I say things and it sounds so mean. And I'm like, I didn't mean it that way. I was just like, it was my blunt communication happening. I'm coming to terms recently with like, sometimes I have the same kind of issue where like, I will accept something and move on very quickly. And so I'll be like, great next topic. But because that happens so fast, and I'm not bringing someone along for the ride, it seems like I'll say

something in like rebuttal. Well, we're like, I have an example of like, when I was a teenager, my parents were like, hey, times are a little tough right now. We can't keep giving you allowance. And in my mind, it was like, oh, that's totally fine. But then I was like, hey, times are a little tough right now. We can't keep giving you allowance. And in my mind it was like, oh, that's totally fine. But then I was like, oh, times are tough. Family's going through some issues. They talked about mom getting a second job. I kind of want to know what's up. Let's talk about that.

So I was immediately like, okay, where's that second job happening for mom? And so it sounded like, it sounded like you can't give me allowance. Mom should get a second job. And I was like, no! Like it's so, God, we've all had those moments. Yeah, dude, 18.

You should ask your mom for back pay. 18 is so funny. 18. 18. Almost 18. Nice, almost 18. Oh, my God. You know, I'm going to keep that in my brain

because I feel like just in case I act, I feel like that's something I could almost like accidentally say. Almost a teen. I don't know why I would ever say that, though. Oh, that's so funny. Because that's something I could almost accidentally say. Almost a teen. I don't know why I would ever say that. That's so funny. Because it's still creepy. It's still kind of creepy.

I would say that. I would say, oh my God, you're almost a teen. But it sounds like 18. Especially if you're like, I don't know, like English. Almost a teen. Nice. Nice. That's Australian now. Australian. Nice. Almost a teen. oh nice almost nice that's australian australian nice almost 18 in australia we call that 81

because we were upside down oh nice nice i'm sorry no actually 18 upside down is still 18 um okay here here's the next one comes from somebody that almost sounds like the city a in australia like adelaide this person's name is Adeline. My grandma was in charge of sending out thank you cards from my great grandpa's funeral. She's in her late 60s and she's a little crazy. Now, I'm in the Mormon culture, so funerals are a huge deal, especially where I am at in Utah. So of course, we need some bougie invitations. She wanted to send out a cute invitation that she designed. So she decided to put lol on the front of the cards. Back in her day, lol meant lots of love.

So she had no clue that now it mostly meant laugh out loud. She ended up sending all 175-ish invitations before being told by my dad that she accidentally ended her funeral invitation with a big lol at the end let's just say that my family has had a laugh about that for the past few years wow can you imagine me like, I'm so sorry. Shoot, dude. Oh, crap. Shoot, dude. Shoot, dude. Shoot, dude. Holy crap. That's so sweet.

That's hilarious. That's so grandma. I don't know Adeline's grandpa, but I feel like Adeline's grandpa would have had a little laugh about that. Yeah. Yeah. That seems very appropriate for my family. We would all...

I also imagine that LOL was written all intricately and beautifully. I was imagining gold. It's raised off the paper. It's like LOL. But it sounds like she just signed it at the end. It has little curlies on it. What if she's just a huge League of Legends fan? Oh, yeah.

Yep. She's definitely a team Omane, for sure. Sincerely huge League of Legends fan. Oh, yeah. Yep. She's definitely a team O-Main for sure. Sincerely, League of Legends. Grandmas are the best. They're precious. Oh, man. Call your grandma. I don't have a grandma.

I don't have a grandma. I don't have a grandma. You made this really sad. No, call your grandma. Call if she's around. Call your grandma. Call her what? Call her what?

Call her grandma. Grandma. What do I call her? Call her by her name. Can around. Call her what? Call her what? Grammar. Grammar. What do I call her? Call her by her name. Can we hold a Beyonce so we can contact? On Beyonce. On Beyonce. All right, guys.

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Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It's a good time. Damien, oh, the Twitch channel obviously is Smosh Games.

Twitch.tv slash smosh games nailed it nailed it uh send us your shoot dudes to uh what's up what's up you you said damien and then you transitioned into something else damien wasn't prepared for this question no you you literally went hey so damien and then he was like what's the channel name and you said oh and then said the channel name and then oh i have nothing to And then- Oh, I have nothing to say to you, Damien. He just wanted to say your name. So Damien, send us your shoot dudes to shootdudeatsmosh.com. That's S-H-O-O-T-D-O-O-D at smosh.com.

So Damien, all right. Thank you, Sarah, for coming on. You did do that, Ian. I did. This is good. This is very good. I have no idea what I was gonna to say to you, Damien. Yeah, you were like, so Damien.

You were like, check out our Twitch channel, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Damien. Oh, the channel name? Okay. We're doing it live. We're doing it live. I think you're imagining that because you're losing blood out of your thumb. That's also true, but also we're recording this.

Roll the tape. Roll the tape. So, Damien, I love you, buddy. I'm going to hang up. I hope your thumb gets better. Thank you. We're all praying for you. Thank you.

You should put fish skin on it. That helps burn victims. It's really cool. Why would you bring this up as we're signing off? This should have been an hour and a half of the podcast. I thought I would assume that Kevin's going to cut it a little earlier. No, too late. I want to know about it.

We're in it now. Add another 90 minutes to this podcast. Tell me about fish skin. Actually, I got to go to the bathroom. Goodbye, everybody. That's fine. All right, Damien, Sarah, thank you so much. Check us out on Twitch.

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