Smosh Mouth - S2: #82 - Shayne’s TikTok is a Sewer

Episode Date: September 30, 2020

This week, Courtney and Shayne are talking about their love for TikTok! Shayne talks about his time on alt TikTok, or why his FYP is basically a sewer and Courtney shares her thoughts on the classic TikTok vs Vine debate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Vine changed internet comedy forever. It walked so that TikTok could run. My For You page may not be diagnosing me with anything, but the sheer existence of it is alarming and makes me wonder if something is wrong with me on a very deep level. I know the WAP dance. I'm not flexible to execute it at this time,

but I can do it. Not at this time am I capable of the WAP dance, but I'm going to train. I'm entering the dojo. Welcome to the WAP dojo. Welcome to the WAP dojo. Yeah, I'm not saying I don't have a voice that could sing. I'm saying I don't know how. And so when I sing, I'm often off key.

I'm not going to be able to like, you can't tell me to sing a song and I'm going to do it. I don't know how to do it. Unless it's for a bit though. I even took singing. You'll do the Bee Gees. I'll do it like i like i don't know how to to do it unless it's for a bit though i even took singing the bgs i even took i'll do it funny but i'm still not necessarily hitting the right notes and everything like i'll do karaoke doing karaoke and trying to like actually sing a song is different yeah if you don't want to sing you don't have to sing i don't mean to make you i have fun like singing silly but i like i don't enjoy like trying to actually sing well you know.

I love listening to other people sing. Yeah. You don't need another talent right now. So you said you started your day off this morning by playing Fall. Not today. You didn't start it off. I said today was the first day in a while that I didn't. I still have yet to win a crown dude. It's hard. It's gotten harder. The update made it so much

harder. I'm losing like crazy much harder i get on like crazy now i get on fall mountain i get close to the top and then there's just so many more obstacles that absolutely get knocked out of me just getting the shit kicked out of me on so many levels that i used to just get i used to get first place on a lot of levels now i'm gate crash man there's an element of luck now because a lot of the gates are randomized more so than they were. So I get destroyed. I often start my day, I wake up and first thing, I'll like, I'll wake up, I'll get out of bed. I'll go over to my TV.

I'll put on Fall Guys. Because I'm just like, well, I want to check the store. Let's see what they got. And then that leads to me going, well, I'll play a round. And then that can either be a good thing. Wow. That can either be a good thing if I do really well. If I win a crown first thing,

that's a great day. But if I do really shitty, I'm starting off my day by being just furious. Like a first thing I'm like, let me play some fall guys. It's 8 a.m. And I'm starting my day by being like, fuck.

I get so mad. My thing, what I've found a perfect outlet for my anger. Cause if I do really bad, oh man, I get so mad that I will walk over to my bed and I will just hammer fist my mattress. I just get so frustrated. I'm like, cause it's often like, just, you know what? It makes me so mad is when I'm doing the correct thing, but the crowd, I just can't get out of the crowd. and I feel claustrophobic playing it. And I'm just like, this sucks.

I'm like, I'm doing everything right. I'm getting bumped off this level. This sucks so hard. I just get, I get so, I've never gotten so mad at a video game. And I love Fall Guys. It's like with the highs are so high and the lows, they couldn't be lower. I get so unbelievably furious. but I get, I get, I can get very angry with games. Not, I don't get angry at a person. I just get angry. Like,

I just have a ton of energy because I'm so focused. So when it goes wrong, that focus has to just like come out. So it just, it ends up with me being, me screaming, or like I said, I hammer fist my mattress. I just get a good old swing and just bringing my fist down on my mattress I make I make a loud noise too do you remember that game flappy bird that caused people to like murder I remember I never played I never played I remember the game I never played it but there was like stories where people like got in altercations and physical fights and I think I don't know if someone was killed but like people got so mad over that game. To get murdered over Flappy Bird. Well, the creator of the game

actually put out an official apology and withdrew his game from the market. I remember that. That was, yeah. The game went away. I remember that. That was a big story. Remember when that was the big story?

Remember a time when Flappy Bird being taken off of the app store was the biggest story and now in 2020, that would not be, that would be a blip. Be like number nine on trending. Yeah. Today, you just got Shane and me in this pod. Yeah, it's the biggest clash.

Butting heads. So crazy. Yeah. We're going to fight. We're going to fight. We aren't going to actually physically fight. Sorry guys, not this time. But today we're actually going to be talking about some things that I feel very passionate about. And I think Shane is very excited about as well as talking about TikTok and RIP Vine and talking about those video apps. Talking about the talk. I thought you were going to say talk about Bugsnax and I almost got it.

No, we're not talking about Bugsnax today. We're talking about TikTok, another way of life. Yeah, we asked you guys on Twitter to give us some questions on things, some unpopular opinions on all things TikTok, Vine, stuff like that. So I'm very excited

to talk about these things today. You know, speaking of old apps, you know, like Flappy Bird. Yeah. What do you think? You like TikTok a lot. It's crazy because I was very anti TikTok when we first started at Mythical because I hated so much the aspect of taking a

thing and copying it hundreds and hundreds of times. And also the whole aspect where like there are people who were just getting famous for just looking hot and lip syncing to a song. But hasn't that been every app ever? It started with Vine, which is the unfortunate thing. But I mean, Instagram has always been people are famous for being hot on Instagram. Instagram is very much like a self-serving app but it was just photos i can get i'm actually very ready for this episode because i want to go into um how vine changed internet comedy forever changed comedic timing has wouldn't it walked so the tiktok could run instagram stole from both platforms

like damn like there is so much to it that a lot of people don't realize because they just jump on and watch funny videos and it's on to the next thing. Right, right. But there's so much to it. Nobody put, like, nobody puts a lot of thought into TikTok. Like, or maybe, you know, people probably do. But, but I think that apps like that get away with a lot more than we think because you just hop on it. You watch a couple of videos, you get off. So you're not thinking about how deep it goes.

I mean, like, and, you know, when you talk about like the data mining and everything that these things do, I mean, my For You page, with the amount of data that I'm sure they're taking from me and observing of me, my For You page, that's, it's a scary sight that I'm like this,

they've looked deep into my soul and this is what they see. Yeah, they're stealing your data. It's videos of old men in their trucks at four in the morning. We've studied everything about Shane Topp, and we've determined that at his innermost core, his greatest desire is to see crazy, crazy old men

making unironic TikToks. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we'll get into it. But guys, my For You page. I want you to explain what the first 10 videos of your For You page would be when you log into TikTok. Oh, God. Well, first. Okay.

First, you do that first because yours is crazy. But I feel like would you agree that if we were to look at the For You pages of everyone at Smosh. Oh, it's so different. Mine. But but whose is the most cursed? Yours. Yeah. If Ian was on TikTok more, I don't think he goes on TikTok enough.

I think if Ian was on it the most, I think his would be very cursed. I think it would be political stuff, unfortunately. You think so? Yeah. You think so? He's very, he's watching documentaries all the time and learning about politics. So, like, I think it would be, because, like my my for you page is a mix of shane's cursed content but then also like here's how to like drain your lymph nodes or get the

swelling out of your face or hey did you know that it's it is much more difficult to diagnose adhd in females and males and like like i'll be like they're like hey do you have all these issues do you dissociate conversations are you worried about how you look like in a conversation more than what the actual conversation is? You're autistic. And you're like, what? Like people are just self-diagnosing each other, which some stuff is educational. I do enjoy at least taking it with a grain of salt because you can't trust just some random person with an iPhone. But it's that and then lots of cats.

So many cats. I think cats are on everyone's For You page. I think, but oh, you know what I get a lot of is bird content. Oh. I get a lot of like parakeets and parrots being cute. Yeah, that's awesome. So really quick, this is just for any of our listeners who might be completely out of the know of TikTok.

They've heard of it, but they don't know what it is. Do you mind going into what TikTok is and what a For you page is? Sure. Yeah. TikTok. OK, so TikTok is a short form video app that is creator based and people can make comedy, literally anything. And it can go from being a few seconds long to a minute or more sometimes. I'm not sure. I think a minute is. I think a minute is the max. Yeah, I think other apps are making things longer, you know, but and a for You page. Well, the crazy thing about TikTok, which blew my mind when I first finally decided to download it in my phone, I was very resistant for a while, is you don't even have to have an account. You just open up your phone and you just start scrolling.

And it just serves you anything, literally anything. And then it's paying attention to what you're watching the longest or maybe sharing or liking. And it'll serve you more things that it thinks you will like it's very intelligent in that way and you just keep scrolling and all of a sudden you've been on it for three hours and you've learned that you may have three new mental illnesses but also love cats who wear clothes it's it's absolutely insane i used to hate it very much i love it now but the only thing i hate is that it is very dangerously addicting. It's very addictive. I mean, it's designed to keep holding your attention at such a crazy rate.

To the point that I would suggest before even opening the app, setting a timer. Yeah. Because you will get lost and it'll be two hours later and you'll be like, oh my God. And it's so much information coming at you. Because, yeah, amongst all those things that I explained, there's also like, did you know your rights when you're getting pulled over by a police officer? Like, there is so much just rapid fire information coming at you so quickly. It can be overwhelming. But it's also true what you said earlier about taking it with a grain of salt because it is just a person recording themselves saying a thing most of the time.

Or just reading or just they're saying a tweet they saw. Yeah, yeah. They'll be like, did you know that this? And then I found some, because there was that one where that firefighter debunked it. He duetted it. But a girl was being like, isn't it strange that all the fires in the U.S. stop at the border? And then the firefighter was like, because you're looking at a map of a U.S. database. So they don't have the Canadian and Mexican fires on there because it of a U.S. database. So they don't have the Canadian and Mexican fires on there

because it's a U.S. database. And I'm like, probably a lot of people saw that video of hers and were like, whoa, like, that's crazy. So it is true. And then they moved on to the next thing. It is true. And that's also a danger of TikTok because you have a ton of people telling you stuff.

Take it all with a grain of salt. And you got to kind of be like, all right, if something interests you, then research it more outside of TikTok. Yeah. Like I get a lot of mental health TikTok content. And sometimes one will really get to me and I'll be like, is this an issue that I have? And I will bring it to my therapist. And sometimes she'll be like, that's interesting to think about. Or she'll be like, Courtney, no. Yeah. You don't have autism. And that's probably a question your therapist gets a lot. I think that's a fair, I think in our day and age, I bet you a lot of therapists have people being like, hey, am I on the spectrum or whatever?

And that's fair. That's totally fair. But I was talking to Courtney about this the other day. Like, obviously, I only have a bachelor's in psychology. That does not make me an expert. But the main thing that you learn in psychology is you don't know yourself as well as you think you do. And so self-diagnosing is very, very dangerous and unreliable. Do not trust a self-diagnosis. It's okay to think, oh, I might, this is how I'm feeling. And I might have

this and to go to a professional and say, hey, this is how I'm thinking and this I'm feeling, but never run with it entirely and go, oh my gosh, I have that. And it's even with physical diagnosis. Like, you know, it's why WebMD is like, you have cancer, like, because everything can be anything, you know, you can think you have ADHD. It might be something else. It might be whatever. It could be literally just the stimuli that you're presented with that's making you feel a certain way. It could be that the world is making you constantly feel like you have to be thinking a thousand miles per minute. Yeah.

But your For You page. So going back, you know, my For You page may not be diagnosing me with anything, but the sheer existence of it is alarming and makes me wonder if something is wrong with me on a very deep level. My For You page is like, it's just people making TikToks unironically. So I'll just get like an old man looking at his camera, just being like, you guys are just mean because you're British. I'm not long for this world. Don't worry. And it's just like, what the hell? What is this? I'm just like, what? Like, I will be scared by the TikToks I get. I get people that are just doing insane stuff. See, I don't have that anxiety. Like all the things that's either a joke or like that one i sent you today of the old man

being like i convinced i it's it's just an old man with text saying i convinced my best friend to join the army and i'm the one that came back sorry baby like what's up like a like an 89 year old man that's the weirdest one but usually like i i can always trust that it's something in my lane of like uh politics like like you know it's usually in my lane of like politics. Like, you know, it's usually very, you know, left. Mine make zero sense. They are pure chaos. There's not like a, there's no kernel of anything that you can hold on to.

It's like, oh, this was the basis of that TikTok. It's like some guy found a phone and filmed himself and didn't realize what he was doing. There was one that was like a guy in a truck. Like he was like a trucker. And it was like clearly like four in the morning. He just like, he's like, sup, ladies. It's Tuesday morning. Let them titties hang.

I'll talk to you later. It's like, wait, do you know what this app is, man? Like, what are you doing? I also love that it's like there has now been like separations of like, oh, you have straight TikTok. That's gross. I love alt TikTok or queer TikTok or frog TikTok. I ended up on alt hood TikTok. Yeah, yeah.

There's two dudes wearing like Hello Kitty and they're, you know. And they're just dancing to like Tame Impala. Whatever. I was like, well, hell yeah. I ended up here. I end up in weird, weird parts of TikTok. And my, see, my favorite is when I find TikToks that have like under a hundred likes. And they're just clearly like a person posted it thinking like, oh, no one's going to really see this.

But I'm like, I saw it. I get ones that have zero likes sometimes, man. Oh, that's the best. See, the whole point, like people scroll through and you're just looking for ones that are already viral. No. Search for gold on TikTok because I just showed Courtney one before we started this. I found a woman probably in her 70s. She had like a cloud background.

She was just dancing to Celine Dion. And I was like, check this this out like 50 likes on it this woman did not realize that other people could see this that's my favorite that's my favorite my absolute favorite are the unironic ones um and actually you know you know who else was into that is uh Brittany Broski because when I when we were uh she came on a video forever ago and we were talking about that and we were just talking about, we were sharing some TikToks back and forth and just like, what are our favorites? And it's people who like are dead serious on their TikToks, but it's so funny.

Oh, if I find, I found one that was like, and honestly, some of them, I'm not laughing. I'm like, this is awesome. I found like a teenager. He had like some martial arts weapons and he was just like, you know, he had some epic music in the background. It was him trying to do moves, not doing them well, but he was trying to do some moves. And I'm like, hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude.

Get it out there. And I love all the comments. I love when all the comments on a TikTok are entirely sarcasm because all the comments underneath it were like, bro, my girlfriend's on this app. Yeah, yeah. Bro, dude, come on. Dude, the comment sections on TikTok are sometimes funnier than anything I'll see on Twitter that day. Oh, the comments are great TikTok are sometimes funnier than anything I'll see on Twitter that day. Oh, the comments are great.

The comments are very good. But also pretty cursed as well because occasionally TikTok serves me something genuinely fucked up. And I'm like, holy shit. What I just witnessed was awful. I go to the comments to check if other people are being like, this is awful. And it's a bunch of people making jokes. And I'm like, guys, come on. You got to dial it back sometimes. Sometimes it's not funny. Sometimes there's a bunch of people making jokes. And I'm like, guys, come on. You got to dial it back sometimes. Sometimes it's not funny.

Sometimes there's a need to be concerned. Oh, my God. No, yeah. I think TikTok, we can get more into it as we go along. We should answer questions. Sorry. And I know this question is going to come up. I just want to clarify this very quickly.

Because you were saying Vine started it. I disagree. Because to me, TikTok right now, I get the same vibes of TikTok right now that I did from YouTube in 2008. Okay. I would say that that argument's valid. There are so many. I mean, that's how Smosh got famous. There are so many YouTube videos from 2008 that were less than 30 seconds long that were my favorite YouTube videos.

I mean, literally sitting on a toilet. Oh, yeah. Would be a viral TikTok. Hell, yeah. Would be a viral TikTok. And my favorite from back in the day was the Russian teenager who, or just Russian guy, who tries to throw a log and he hits himself and knocks himself out. That's good. That's a TikTok.

That's a viral TikTok. Those are absolutely like, I think Vine changed mainstream comedic timing. For sure. Because even I, in my opinion, saw Vine, I felt like Vine kind of fast forwarded how people like took in content

and how we like processed jokes. I think they accelerated. I think, I think it even changed like how movies in cinema were edited. Well, it also,

it also changed who was famous. A bunch of people who were famous now that would never have been famous had the, had Vine not existed. Yeah.

I mean, that's just the truth. Same with YouTube. Everyone's got a pro. Need tires? I've got a pro. Car making a weird sound? I've got a pro. So who's that pro?

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It's bizarre. I almost didn't. If I hadn't joined Smosh, I wouldn't have had it. True. I wasn't. Just to be honest here, I hardly used social media before I joined Smosh. I never used Instagram. I rarely tweeted, which I know is probably crazy to hear.

And I didn't have a Vine or anything. I never posted stuff. I never looked at social media. I wasn't that into it. Damn. Yeah. So when I got on Smosh, it was like suddenly I was like, crap, I got to start learning and start using all of this. I think there's a vibe to this day. Like, I think people get that I'm not, like, super – not that I'm not in touch with it, but that I'm just, like – it's not a natural thing for me.

Like, you don't take it seriously. I think you and Damien – no, I think you and Damien, like, you can – I can tell, like, you guys just get it a little bit better. For me, I feel like I come across a lot of times like I use all social media apps, ironically, like that's why I'm just purely comedic on all of them, because genuinely speaking, I don't use them. I still to this day, I only use all social media as a source of entertainment. I wouldn't want it any other way, though, because like I could you guys imagine Shane being like, today's pretty crazy. Been editing, taking pictures, and what's your favorite sandwich? Yeah.

Like, no, thank you. Can you imagine a genuine Instagram post from me? I feel like I've learned a lot from you in that, when, with my content. Yeah.

It's like, I think people are more drawn to it. But we've got to get to these questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We tweeted asking you guys for some questions about TikTok, and if it was anything related to Vine, things like that. Very cool. So first question is from IndieRain5. And their question is, when did any of you get TikTok and since have you got addicted? Also, did you find it weird when people over a certain age are on TikTok? Dude, no age.

There's no age on TikTok. There is no age. Mine is primarily, like, I know Gen Z is all over it. They're, like, the biggest stars on it. But mine, I hardly get served. I get served a lot of old people. I get all ages. I get moms.

I get kids. It's all over the place. I think that's TikTok's strength is that it's truly all over the place. Vine became Vine towards the end, and I was only on it towards the end, so I can only judge Vine for like the later half of it. By the time I joined Vine, Vine, you were guaranteed every time to get a Logan Paul Vine, a Jake Paul Vine, a, you know, Lele Pons Vines. And that's the thing is like, but it was, that was what Vine was.

That became the type of humor on Vine. And occasionally you get a Drew Gooden or Danny Gonzalez and that would be great. But TikTok is so different. Every time I open it up, I constantly see comedians I've never seen before who are the funniest people on the planet. Yeah, dude. Every time. Every time I'm guaranteed to see a person I've never seen before who's hilarious. I used to think like weird, crazy people like that were much more of a rarity but they are not like

they're it's so cool to see everyone just getting weird especially i feel like quarantine has made people so much more insane that the comedy has just like ramped up in general because i would i would go so far to say that i think Gen Z is the funniest generation. Just watching them, they're just so funny and silly. They're just silly. I think millennials, when we were teenagers, our sense of humor was a lot more like mean and edgy a lot of times. You know, it was a lot more making fun of people. Whereas I think a lot of this Gen Z stuff I see on TikTok is so just weird. It's just weird. And I love that. I love that it's

just ridiculous. It's never really, some of them aren't even jokes. Like I'm like, I don't even know what they're making a joke about. That was just weird. But I will also say on TikTok and in general, I think there are more hilarious people than I ever thought. Yeah, exactly. It's crazy to see how many funny people there are. Yeah, because on Vine, it was like monopolized. They made sure of it. Certain TikTok or certain, well, certain Viners did that. When we actually did that first TikTok reaction video on Pit, which was like branded, by the way, I didn't have it in my phone at that point. I actually had seen one or two of the TikToks, but it was because of Twitter because people were serving them to Twitter so quickly. But I think finally, like a few months after that, I finally like downloaded it.

Yeah. You got it for you and Damien had TikTok way before me. And you guys were. We were always you. That was so funny because in the office you didn't have TikTok. So me and Damien would like fight for time with you to just show you like videos that we found. And I just was really against it.

I just didn't, I never had it. So I was just judging it based on nothing. I was just like, I'm not going to get it. I don't want it. Because I also viewed it as another obligation. Like if I get another social media app, that's another thing that I got to, I'll feel like I got to do, which look, I haven't posted a TikTok in a couple months and I'm definitely feeling like, oh God, I got to I gotta post something well that was crazy like my third my first two TikToks were just

reposts of Vines because I was like fuck it I don't know and then I took some old random video I decided to make and re-edited it and changed the joke entirely just with text and that was that blew up that that's at like 2.9 million plays now. And that, I was like, whoa, okay. And I'm pretty sure that I like started a trend because it's like so hard to tell. Like even someone will create a dance on TikTok like today and they'll go viral and then they won't realize till a week later because they just didn't get credit and never saw it on their For You page. So it happens a lot. But your TikTok, once you started really getting into it, like your stuff was popping off.

By the time this pod comes out, I'm going to try to have had a couple. And my goal is to make, you know, I need to achieve what I'm seeing on my For You page. And I need to make truly, truly weird. I need to make stuff that when it shows up on someone's For You page, they question what they did to deserve it.

You heard it here first, guys. He's going to do it. I want people to be like, what the hell did I just watch? So by the time this comes out, have you already done it then? Is that what you're saying? Yes, I'm saying. So we're recording this pod. This has been a couple of weeks ago by the time this is out.

By the time that you are listening to this, you can go to my TikTok and I will have posted some weird, at least two or three, just some weird shit. And to be fair, the TikToks that I have posted by this point are all weird as shit. I'm going to try to make them even weirder. I'm just going to go for it. Please do. I'm going to lose,

like to the point where I almost need to just like give it a different name and become a different person on it. Dude, that's what's so funny. There's TikTokers that like their profile will get huge and then they'll just jump ship and start a new one. And I'll be like, how do you guys keep finding me? Oh my gosh.

PlayStation home screen one or something. So he's all over the place. He originally had a Twitter called I look like Lil Bill. He is one of my favorite comedians. And he just, every time one of his accounts gets popular, he deletes it and makes another account and he keeps popping around he is one of the funniest people on the planet damien got a uh cameo of him got his cameo once for me oh yeah was that for graduation or that was before

that was just a random gift he just got he got him to just tell me to get in and out and he just went for it. That's so funny. But yeah, I need to get on that. That guy's level, I'll never be able to achieve his level. Yeah. Sometimes like it is kind of a blow to the ego for me sometimes because like I feel like I'm a little more confident in other social media. So when I like actually am trying, it's like a weird fine line of like I do want to follow do the trends but also i want to be weird but i'm like not i'm like not quite weird enough but also not quite like into mainstream trends enough so i'm like i usually don't stuff doesn't do well and i'm just like oh it's tough

depending on your sense i mean i think it works for me because i am that's my sense of humor i love being just weird and chaotic and honestly when i started posting was after i talked to britney broski and i was just like yeah i don't know and she's just like dude she's like film like if you don't think that i've filmed tiktoks while i'm on the toilet you're wrong like you need to just she's like you need to have the mindset that it does not matter yeah just do not give a shit and i was like all right i, I'm going to do it. And then honestly, the ones where I put the least thought into,

and I'm doing one, I'm like, do one take. And if you fuck up, just keep going. Like just, just let it be ridiculous. Yeah.

And for, if anyone wants to know, Brittany Broski in person, just the best. She's probably the coolest person. She is such a good hang. I wish, oh my god i want

her more content as soon as people are able to collab again how she appears on tiktok is what she's like because we've hung out with her for a good amount of time yeah and she's just like that she laughs at everything she's just fun just it's awesome just she doesn't because you know sometimes you meet creators that like you could tell they don't want to be there. Like, they're just there for ABC. For sure. But she was awesome. And honestly, her TikToks, it's just her often just laughing at herself or just laughing at a comment or whatever.

She's just having a good time. So did you ever get addicted to TikTok or have you had your moments? I'm not the type that, like, throughout a day that I'm like, I need to look at TikTok. The only time I end up looking at TikTok is like before bed. And it'll often be why I don't go to bed until one as like I get in bed at 11. Yeah, I fall asleep at one because I pull up TikTok. I had a phase though back in like, what was it? Was it? I think it was in May that I was posting the most TikToks. And it was in springtime. And I did get into posting a lot of TikToks. I was just like being weird. And then, you know what? I can say exactly what happened. This is why I stopped

making TikToks was because all the protests and everything began. And I felt weird being silly. I just felt like it was inappropriate to be silly for a bit. It absolutely was. And so I kind of removed myself from it for a bit. And, you know, now it's getting to a phase where I still feel that. But I'm like, you know, there's so many people who are being outspoken. And, you know, I try to be outspoken when I can. I also know that I'm like, hey, like in 2020, we're all so bummed out all the time. I'm like, if I can make someone laugh, like that's helping in some sort of

way. And so I'm going to try to come back to that and just bring that chaos, that good chaos to all the bad chaos of 2020. I think the people who know you know like that you care about what's going on. Of course, I totally do. And it is weird. It is weird. That's this is kind of a side tangent really quick. But that's been the trippiest thing about 2020 is that, you know, my platforms, I don't view them as being me personally. I don't view Twitter or I mean, I do. They are me there, but they're the aspect of me that is super silly trying to just make jokes and laugh. That is where my social media is comes from all the other the serious a lot of the serious parts of me I don't want to put on on them because I'm like that's that's personal to me and that's

private to a certain extent you know just to occasions like this on this podcast I'm down to talk about it but my Twitter is so built upon my dumbness that I'm like that's that's what it is so for me to go from making jokes about bananas to talking about something serious often feels really weird for me. Yeah, it almost like looks unhealthy in a way to bounce back and forth. Yeah, it's tough, you know, and they are kind of a respite for me as well.

Like they are an escape for me where I go there to be silly and to kind of take my eyes off the world a little bit. You know, I try not to get my news off of social media. I try not to get my nudes off there either. I got to get my nudes off of Twitter. But, you know, I don't get my news off of there and I try not to, you know.

And I also, a tough thing, a tough thing that I've been struggling with, honestly, is, you know, people ask for us to use our platforms for good. I try to do that. I do genuinely think I'm not that smart. Like there's so many people who are smarter than me. So when I'm like, I'm using this, I'm like, but do I believe people should be listening to me?

Not necessarily. So I do try to retweet or whatever when I can. But even then I'm like, you know, it's just tricky. And what I'm most comfortable with is just being a silly idiot. That's what I do best. And that's what I would like to use them for the most. Absolutely.

And that I think is very valid. Like Instagram used to be like my platform. I was posting almost every day. Engagement was awesome. And like I completely halted when all the protests and everything started happening. You really dedicated your Instagram to it. I even felt weird posting that we protested because there's just this, it's an element of like, this was for me. I did this for me. I'm trying to prove myself when

that's not it. Like it's, it's one of the like, Hey, guess what? Assholes. I believe in this. And if you like me, you should trust that what I'm believing in is the right thing. And like, I, I honestly wish I have posted more on my direct in feed, like my stories. And a lot of you seen, I'm losing 6 losing 6000 followers a week sometimes because I'm posting so much like not political stuff, but like like helpful information on how to like how to be anti-racist or how to be feminist, like all these things. And I'm literally I'm still gaining more than I'm losing, but I'm losing a lot because it's tough. I mean, that. I mean, that's a thing that I think, you know, it's not a struggle,

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Must be 19 plus. Available in Ontario only. Please play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact ConnexOntario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. But I think you're doing the right thing. I mean, I think it's the right thing, 100%. It still feels wrong wrong like even yesterday like the fact that it was well there was some but like I still try and post at least something

that's like at least helpful to mental health or something nowadays because it's like I think this summer has made it all like made me realize like I've always known that having having clout or having a following is is a responsibility as Zendaya so lovingly put it on on on a talk show so I can't remember which one but this was the year where it's like okay everybody you have worked to get this influence it's time to use it it is time to really use it not just for your own self-gain not to help you get brand deals but like you have people listening to you it's time to use it right but like it still even feels weird like the fact that I posted a selfie with a thermometer in my mouth which a lot of people thought was a pregnancy test, by the way.

What? It was a pregnancy test in my mouth. And it's a thermometer. I felt so icky. My mouth is pregnant. I felt icky. Not because it was a pee-pee pregnancy test in my mouth, but it was because it was a thirst trappy selfie of me. And like I just like I have to also accept like this is my platform and it is about me

because it's mine and I should I should also clarify like Smosh does not own our personal no accounts at all so like that is very much like it is for me personally so like that is that is entirely my own our own thing but yeah you're allowed to and I think that with anyone social is I'm like you are allowed to do whatever you want with it and it's also hard to get pictures taken of me when we're quarantining because I'm not around people you're allowed to. And I think that with anyone social is I'm like, you are allowed to do whatever you want with it. And it's also hard to get pictures taken of me when we're quarantining because I'm not around people. You're allowed to post whatever you want. Like people follow you because they chose to follow you. You're posting it because that's what you want to post.

Like it's entirely a freedom there. I don't I don't judge anyone for what they post on social media if it's not hurting anyone. Like you're allowed to post a thirst trap. You're allowed to. And also, you know what? Like you're allowed to feel good about yourself absolutely um i think i think it's crappy that so many people like shame it you know i think it's there's some there's probably roots in there of sexist stuff oh yeah tiktok is very good at shedding light on all of that too for sure and i i will say that like gen z is very outspoken and very woke and and also just a lot

of information is getting out there that i think is really good mixed in with the conspiracies that are bad. I will say like I got very, very addicted during this quarantine where I was like I was on TikTok sometimes four hours in a day because I obviously like with so much going on, you just kind of get overwhelmed. You don't know what to do, something that's going to help you feel better, but that doesn't feel productive. And then you're like, well, what's productive that I can do? And then there's all these things and you get overwhelmed and then you just sit on your phone and that's your day. So and then, like I said, with so much information coming at you so fast, like I really recommend you pace yourself, check out a few, get off, wait a few hours, get back on, check out a few get off wait a few hours get back

on check out a few like refresh yourself like because honestly I also wonder if like a TikTok might be funnier if I hadn't watched a protest TikTok right before it yeah you know like it's very that's very interesting that is a tough thing with TikTok is I there are times where I wish I could be like hey I want I'm getting on because I want to see something funny. Yeah. Because I just watched because I just saw a bunch of fucked up crap on Twitter. And so now I'm going to TikTok to laugh a little bit. Yeah. I don't want to see a Karen winning. No. Yeah. I think that's, you know, I was talking to my therapist this week about how social media is designed to pressure you into wanting to keep going and to move faster and to keep your attention. And it shortens your attention span because you're constantly just

getting this constant feed. And that affects your reward complex in your brain of constantly getting rewarded. Like I'm going to scroll and oh, getting a burst of something and scroll, get a burst of something and you get addicted to that and it makes getting off of it so much harder because that's, I think to a certain extent, I mean, this is an unproven, this is just my thought, but I think to a certain extent we're all developing a, it isn't, but it's like, it feels like ADHD because society is pressuring all of us. We are conditioning ourselves. You know, brain is a muscle to a certain extent. And if you train yourself to constantly need a We're conditioning ourselves. And surprisingly in quarantine, the idea of doing things like meditation has never been harder despite the fact that I definitely have time. I definitely have 10 minutes every day to sit down, turn off everything. And just be quiet.

And just breathe, focus on my breathing for 10 minutes is so hard because my brain is so uncomfortable with it i can't tell how many times like how many times i've been on my phone all day and i've been overwhelmed with everything going on that when i try to put my phone down and i'm just like in my living room my brain has like a million voices going off at once just like all the videos that i watched that day all the sounds the music like it is like i have overstimulated my brain to the point where it's just tweaking out and like. And that won't get better unless you actively train it to slow down. And it's made like reading books harder and stuff. Oh, yeah. No, I read a book for at least an hour last night for the first time in like a month or two because it's gotten so much harder.

And it takes actively choosing to slow down and to take your mind off those things and to sit. And my therapist was like, you know, sometimes it is important to just kind of sit and just like lean into the uncomfortableness of nothing in front of you. Because it's distraction. It's not entertainment sometimes. It's distraction. And that's not healthy. That's not self-care because after you get off of it you don't feel good you're like oh i just zoned out for a bit now i don't know where my thoughts are you know self-care isn't always easy it's not easy sometimes

to sit and meditate for the work in or to stretch for 25 minutes or whatever things that will make you feel better i think self-care is often we think self-care is like oh i'm gonna do this because i like doing this thing it's like no self-care is doing a thing that will make you feel better. I think self-care is often, we think self-care is like, oh, I'm going to do this because I like doing this. It's like, no, self-care is doing a thing that will make you feel better in the long run. All right, let's see what else we have here. Tia and Blossom, the question is, how many takes did you have to do

for Shane to successfully run around the entire office then dance to the Chinese New Year all under 30 seconds? That, see you at the movies. Yes. I think it took three takes. It took three takes. It was our social media person, Rachel, was coming in,

and she was still kind of learning the ropes on filming as well. Shout out to Rachel, though. She is awesome. She do, like, our social media game is at another level now because of her. Rachel is very good. She's a cool person. She used to be on a channel. She's very good. She's a cool person. She used to be on a channel.

She was a YouTuber. She's been on reality TV. She's just a badass person. Very funny, very blunt, honest person. She fit in with everybody. Yeah, she's just really cool. I'm a big fan. She's behind a lot of social posts. Yeah, it only took three times.

I mean, three times I ran around the entire studio. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying it was easy by any means. By the way, there was no shortcut in that. I had to run very far. Yeah, you had to sprint through that hallway. I ran through a lot. And I also had to dodge some people who perfectly like it was a-

They needed to work. No, no, no like no no no no perfectly like a cartoon people were unloading uh like giant trays of like glass bottles i'm not kidding a woman walked by she was holding a giant case of glass bottles and i had to like jump out of the way of her oh my god i was like i'm like is there someone holding a giant cake? Like an eggs, a bunch of stacks of eggs. It was like that. It was ridiculous, but I made it and we did it and it was good. Yeah, that was fun.

Yeah. Yeah. We've had some good stuff. We haven't, it's been tough in quarantine because we don't ever have Rachel with us. So often she'll text me and be like, hey, can you do a post where you do this? And I'll be like, yes, I can do that. Yeah. And sometimes it sucks because like we have good ideas. So often she'll text me and be like, hey, can you do a post where you do this? And I'll be like, yes, I can do that. Yeah.

And sometimes it sucks because like we have good ideas. Like I have a couple like half drafts waiting to go on the Smosh TikTok, but I just like haven't gotten around to finishing them. But like if you guys haven't seen the Smosh TikTok yet, like there's obviously like clipped things that are like cool bits from our actual sketches and stuff. But also like we have some very silly stuff in there, like the Dolce Vita, us in those giant robes. No, we have fun. And stuff. It's so fun. Like, go check it out.

We have fun. And I'm also going to try to post more weird stuff on the Smosh TikTok as well as my own. Yes. All right. Next question, just because, you know, why not? So this one's from Last Time I Die. Great. Do you feel like TikTok is hurting

or helping their younger audience with the content found on there? For example, TikTok promotes the idea that you are hot enough and shake what your mama gave you and you will be popular. Oh, that's an interesting outlook. You mean be confident in who you are

and embrace your- Well, I think there's two ways to see that. Right. So for one, I think obviously people should feel confident in who they are in their body. And I think everyone should feel OK to put their face out there and feel good about themselves and feel beautiful. talking about is that it does it is true that on every time my social media app comes out a majority of the people who become most popular on it are often very attractive people and i think that is probably that does suck that does suck that that that often happens i mean granted like the top tiktokers right now are under they're like kids i'm thinking back on vine and like you know yeah i mean the thing that that is it was comedy mixed with with people also being attractive.

And then there were like the people who definitely I mean, the unfortunate thing was Vine was it was very toxic and using female like women as props in videos, like extremely toxic. And those were some of the most successful and very racist accounts. I get I get the I get the what they were trying to say, maybe I think like where it's like, oh, if you're just sexy, you get clout and you can get popular. But like when you look at like Charli D'Amelio, like she's a kid and she's dancing. And like there's honestly like a part where it's like once you just become the top person, you're just getting followed because you're the top person. That happened to Marcus Johns, that happened to King Bach, Nash Greer, like back back in the Vine days I will say like a lot of my for you page is

sometimes just the most gorgeous voluptuous women and like I don't have a problem with it like totally I don't think there's also like you don't need to see social media as a competition like especially when it's something as gigantic as TikTok. I get how it can feel that way, though. One part of their main question, too, was they use the that bit about being hot and shake what your mama gave you as an example. But I think their main question was, do you feel like TikTok is hurting or helping their younger audience with the content on TikTok? Because why I say that aspect is that I do think social media really does, at the same time that we're saying, hey, you should feel confident in yourself. Social media often does everything it can, not necessarily intentionally, but really destroys people's self-confidence because you get on, you see so many.

I mean, this is what's also inevitably happening is when you get on social media, you're getting so much stuff. So you're inevitably going to see probably every time you scroll, you're going to see an incredibly attractive person. You're also going to see an incredibly like physically in shape person. You're going to see the best chef in the world. You're going to see so many things and you're going to be going, oh my God, all these people are better than me. And it can really hurt you. And one of the courses that I studied in psychology was, and this was so new for them, but talking about how there's now new diagnosis that come entirely from social media and Facebook and everything. And there is a type of depression where people, because they only post the best of themselves on social media, now people feel depressed because they're like, I'm not doing all these incredible things that everyone is doing.

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However, what I will say about TikTok is I feel like people are posting so much more like looking gross than at least on my For You page. My For You page, I'm getting so many, dude, men and women. I have never seen so many women making fart jokes and poop jokes than I have on TikTok. And I love that. I love that because it also is just like, hey, like you can still be super feminine and be farting. Like that's allowed. I think it's like there's a lot of just like normalize, normalizing different behavior and like how there's not one perfect way of being. I will say like the theory that I've had

for a long time with social media, especially when like Vine became so big and Instagram, it's like peaking in high school isn't a thing anymore. Like because even if you would have been the type to peak in high school, because like you amounted yourself to how you looked and you and whatever, you know, like the popular kids that like they peaked in high school. That isn't necessarily a thing anymore because on social media you can continue to be a hot, attractive, popular kid. So I do get that aspect.

But then, yeah, there are also really cool sides of TikTok, I think, which is like why I kind of disagreed with that question was because a lot of the videos I get served is like this girl being like, why are you guys telling me to rub olive oil on my titties to keep it perky? Fuck it. I want them to sag. I want saggy titties. And that has like hundreds of thousands of likes. So it's just normalizing like what is attractive. Like I've TikTok is the first time like on Vine. I couldn't do it.

Like I'm just posting videos not wearing makeup and I'm like I don't care like it's very rare when I'm actually wearing makeup in a TikTok and I don't feel weird about it or insecure because I'm always getting so videos of girls not wearing makeup in a baggy t-shirt in their bed like with their cat sleeping next to them because it's like I think that's what's really great about TikTok is that it's it's not all shiny and and and like perfect like Instagram. Yeah. Because because I'm curious, you know, to the person who asked that question, you know, TikTok really does change depending on what you're looking at, because on my for you page,

I rarely get attractive women. Like I said, I get weird, weird TikToks. My TikToks are never, the ones I get served are never sexy. And also our definitions of what an attractive woman on our feed can be very different. Totally, entirely different. I have very alt women on my feed. But also I'll say this, like when it comes to social media, it's all just an accumulation of things, right? So you're not seeing like, it's not that TikTok being necessarily unfairly biased towards certain types of people. The world is often unfairly biased towards certain types of people. It's not fair. I guess for young viewers who are getting on social media,

something that I had to do at the end of last year was like, I went into my Instagram and I literally unfollowed like 300 accounts because I realized that my feed wasn't things that make me happy. It was things that I felt like I needed to follow or was obligated to follow. Yeah, I think there's an aspect of kids or like young viewers feeling like they need to follow what's popular and do what's popular where like if you are surrounding yourself like what you're saying, if you surround yourself with things that you just enjoy and not what your friends are saying is cool, like things that make you happy, not so much insecure, like you can have a generally better experience on social media, not just TikTok. And before we

move on, I just would like to say that the numbers make it feel so much like this is the case. Trust me, I'm working in it. I definitely know you don't need social media to be worthy or to be beautiful. No matter how many likes you get on something does not determine your worth or your beauty. It's such a just chaotic mess. It does not determine who you are. Don't let it, you know, like know that. Know that if you post something and it doesn't get a like, that doesn't mean anything. You know, it does not determine your worth.

You are worthy and beautiful without having any social media. You don't need it. And just because your follower count and the amount of likes you get does not say anything about it. So, but I understand that it's tough. It's tough. Yeah. Especially right now when everyone has been like just home and social media was kind of

everyone's life for a while. Like that's why, you know, people were able to go out and protest because it was like, we're ready to go. We're here. We have nothing else to do. And then that's why, you know, people were getting canceled, like left and right on Twitter and stuff like that because people are home and absorbing content.

Yeah, it's become our world right now, which is fun, but also probably pretty bad. You know, it's our whole world, but it's not a reflection of who you are. Absolutely. That was very well said, Shane. Keeping that in the podcast. If I took TikTok as a reflection of the whole world, man, that'd be it. That's a cursed world. That is a cursed world.

I just remember the phase of TikTok when it was like early quarantine and people were just like, I just decided to walk around the neighborhood at 3 a.m. And they're just like have videos of them dancing in the middle of an intersection that's empty. Like it changes constantly. OK, this one's interesting. At Just Jordan says, is there any trends you can't get behind? Thoughts on TikTok dances? I know the lop dance.

I know it. I'm not flexible to execute it at this time. But I can do it. Not at this time am I capable of the WAP dance. Does it look cute? But I'm going to train. I'm entering the dojo.

It's just like if somebody came in this room with a gun right now and was like Welcome to the WAP dojo. If someone walked in this room and was like do the WAPAP dance now, I would be like, okay, it's not going to be good, but I got you and I will do it. They'd be like, that's fine. It doesn't need to be good. I'm a polite, horrible person. You should ironically do TikTok dances, I think.

Oh, see, I'm going to probably, I'd have to dress up as a character. Just the renegade. I don't get served a lot of trends. I am not on mainstream TikTok. My for you pages. Yeah. Same. So cursed that I don't get it.

I will get served trends. If it's someone making fun of a trend really hard. The ones I get a lot are like acting challenge. And it's just, it's never, it's, I've never gotten a genuine acting challenge where someone duets it and like does the act,

does the scene. I only get just like, so I think there was the acting challenge where it was a woman. It was, she was doing like this crying, intense breakup scene and there was just a stuffed monkey on the other side. So it was just like acting challenge.

You are the blue lion. She's like, how could you do this to me? And the response is just monkey, monkey. This is my for my for you page guys like i don't know what's going on it's just weird tiktok is so big like i'll be like i'll very confidently quote a tiktok to a whole room of people and no one will know what i'm talking about and i'm like shit i have gotten served i think i got served a trend from but it was in Japan and it was all in Japanese I my favorite my absolute favorite is when I end up on a different language in TikTok if I'm like this is clearly in Russian I'm just like hell yeah like I have

I have made it I have breached I have I will say like I I don't get TikTok dance trends at all unless like an alt person has has made up a really cool dance like this one girl. She's like wearing a motorcycle helmet and she does the dopest dance. And then it went viral and she had no clue and no one gave her credit because it goes off and goes. And then an Addison Rae does it. And then she has all the credit. I'm not knocking Addison Rae, but I literally have to seek out her profile to ever see anything by her or someone duetting her, like making fun of her or doing something silly. I never get served the popular people.

I have never had. Hype house? And granted, I'm their bunch of teenagers. I don't really. I used to. True. I used to get like earlier on. I used to get like a lot of the cosplay TikToks and then like the mob boss.

Remember the mob boss TikToks? Anyone? I don't get that stuff. So bad. I used to hate watch that stuff. I do not get served. Like men acting like they're possessed and it's like supposed to be sexy.

I don't get served any of the popular stuff, man. None of it. Possessing a body doesn't turn me on. I don't want it. I'm, I'm, see, I can't comment on the actual parts of TikTok that everyone can relate to because my For You page is like the sewers. TikTok, TikTok is New York City.

And for me, my TikTok is the underground. You should. The dirty underworld. You should screen record like a day on your For You page just to show what it's like. There was that one, there was a TikTok that I related to so well where it's like other person's For You page. Oh, dancing. Have you seen this? My For You page.

And it's this big middle-aged man dressed, painted pink, dressed as Jigglypuff, just going, Jiggly, Jiggly, Puff, Puff, Puff. And it's just like, yep, that's my TikTok. Like, can you believe the TikTok drama right now? It's like just a frog smoking a cigarette. Mine is never gonna be, I'm kind of blissfully in this chaotic hell world.

I prefer it, man. That's where I'm at. It's Alice in Wonderland, but make it even worse. Like, if the caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland ended up where in my TikTok for you page, he'd be like, what the fuck is this place get me out this is a nightmare the mad hatter would be like i gotta go the cheshire cat would not be able to hang i'm not trying to say i'm not like other girls it's just like it's one of those things where it's like when you know that there's

something extremely popular and that everyone wants to do it. It's just like, I feel extremely put off by it. Like I'm usually too late to it. By the time I find a trend, it's already boring. There's that. Maybe it also is intimidating because it's like, well, I don't have a trend. Nobody follows my trends. But I also I chalk it up back to high school because I remember this one dude and he's actually a really great guy. Like he's an awesome person. But it was like this reputation kind of happened where like he was the funny kid. All of the people in my grade just followed him around like a puppy dog and just quoted him and wanted to be his best friend. And it was a point where I was like, this is uncomfortable. Like I like the guy, too, but I just had to take a step back because it was just it was just so weird.

I just like that you had a guy at your high school that everyone just wanted to like quote yeah hey mark that thing you said the other day pretty funny we didn't have vine yet so honestly that was the closest thing like he's a great dude he he released a book he was he's very talented like basketball player people just loved hearing but he was just like he would just he would he was the class clown he would just like he would act dumb like he was always doing a bit. And people would be like, Janie, what do you have to say about this thing? Janie, what do you think? Maybe I shouldn't say his name, but it's OK.

I think he would understand what I'm talking about. I don't mind it. I can't believe you went to school with J.D. Salinger. It would make sense that he wrote a book. But yeah, like it was those moments where I was just like, this is weird. I don't like I don't like what these people are doing. Like they don't have their own personality because they're just dedicating all their energy to following around another person. Yeah.

And so I guess that's kind of where I learned like I don't want to follow every trend. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think doing a trend, look, I mean, look, at the end of the day, TikTok is entirely for fun. Remember that you could delete the app and your life could probably go on as normal. If you're on it, it's because you want it to make you happy and have fun with it. Have fun with it, man. Look, for my sake, post just some chaotic crap. Post something that makes zero sense.

Just scream as loud as you can. I'll be honest here. There is nothing more liberating than doing something so weird that everyone's confused. It's great. Yeah. There's a freedom that you can tell Brittany Broski has in just not caring and just posting weird stuff. And honestly, if it does bad, it's almost more freeing. Because it's just like, yeah, man, I did that entirely for me.

And everyone, like, look, every tweet that I post, all the comments are just like, what? They're just confused. I'm like, yeah, every tweet that I post, all the comments are just like, what? They're just confused. I'm like, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And at least, like, yeah, I'm not even going to get into it. But, yeah, cool. Do whatever you want. Hold on.

I have a question to end this out. What do you think has been, like, the funniest app of all time? And we can count YouTube. Throw YouTube in there. Overall, what do you think has brought, like, just the honestly actually you know what let's remove youtube youtube's is such a separate so like i feel like i've spent more hours on tiktok in the last year than i did ever did on youtube honestly what like i they're honestly probably pretty close i i have to chalk it up to tiktok dang because it Because it's got comedy for every type of person.

And like a trend will warp and it'll turn into three different trends for three different worlds. And I'm always laughing at something and also finding something that I want to send you. I definitely would say TikTok's better than Vine at this point. Yeah, I can't lie. I will say Vine never monetized and they never farmed your data. They never did any of that. It was because they just didn't want to. Vine got screwed over because it just became the same 20 people.

And like, I'm not knocking those people. Revine for Revine. I'm not knocking those people. I'm knocking some of them. But to get on and just to see the same comedians every time I got bored. I'm like, I love seeing. Absolutely. I love my favorite thing on TikTok is finding these people who have like no followers.

Yeah. Who are just, they're living off somewhere random. They're not even entertainers. They're just doing this for fun. Yeah. They're my favorite. I follow people on TikTok, but I don't go to the following tab and scroll through following. No, I just.

And I think TikTok realized that the For You page is such a strong entity that they, now they just serve what you follow into the for you page as well but like yeah you can't beat the for you page because on vine there was the editor's picks and that was what you were served at first but it was like it's not always the best stuff and then there was like the comedy page which was always just spammed with revine for revine like tiktok or vine comedians because so the for you page it's the most genius thing I've ever seen in any kind of tech. I gotta say, I still think the most successful

and to me still is the overall funniest is Twitter. If you think my TikTok For You page is cursed, my Twitter page is, people think my tweets are weird. I'm inspired by even weirder accounts. Go through his likes, guys. My likes are weird. I'm inspired by even weirder accounts. Go through his likes, guys.

My likes are crazy. I used to, when my Twitter was boring, when my feed was like not funny, I would just go to his likes sometimes and be like, oh yeah, some good stuff. I follow some insane accounts on Twitter. And people post TikToks and stuff to Twitter. And TikTok also, what was so genius that they did

was just like, yeah, fuck it. Save our stuff. Save the video and put it in your camera roll and send it wherever you want and they have their watermark on it like it's so it's so smart Instagram has stolen something from every social media app and like however TikTok steals from Twitter a lot of times true well that's the creators yeah that is the creators you're right i'm saying instagram in their coding they stole video from vine and it was shitty when it first came out couldn't even talk up to the seamlessness of the of vines coding then they did instagram stories stealing from snapchat i don't use snapchat anymore because of it then they stole now they have reels on mark

zuckerberg yeah and then even like facebook has a dating app now, like Facebook, Instagram, like it's insane. Yeah. But they just steal and like they they're trying. I remember hearing that Facebook wanted to be the only social media app. Like that was the ambition. Yeah. I think that's insane. No, it's definitely Facebook is trying to take over the world.

My final thought is that my for You page is a cursed hell world. I think the fans want you to screen record your For You page. I'm terrified to do that. Just do it. I think I would be judged. But what I will promise is that I'm going to post. There will be some TikToks and they're going to be weird. I'm going to make them as weird as humanly possible.

I'm going to try to keep getting weirder. And I will say, like, I have this issue lately. I get insecure on TikTok. I'm not going to try to keep getting weirder. And I will say like I have this issue lately. I get insecure on TikTok. I'm not going to lie. I'm like kind of I may even contradicting a lot of what I'm saying because my things don't get the likes that I maybe want. Or if I'm like, oh, I'm not as funny as the people I'm seeing in my feed. I delete them. So I'm going to tell myself right now I'm just going to go for it and not worry about it.

I'm going to try to get zero. My goal is to get zero likes. My goal is to post something so cursed that people actively try to look away. I'll post such a weird joke that people are gonna be scared. They're gonna be like, I fear that by looking at this joke that I'm cursed. That an ancient demon is after me because I looked at this joke. All right. Are you ready for some shoot dude? Yes, shoot dude. Shoot dude. Uh oh. shoot dude. Shoot dude. Uh-oh. Shoot dude.

Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude.

Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shit man. So if you don't know what shit man is, shoot dude is, first of all, the term came from just randomly Ian's mouth on the first episode of the podcast, but it's turned into a shoot dude is first of all the term came from just randomly Ian's mouth on the first episode of the podcast

but it's turned into a shoot dude moment is a moment that has happened to you that is embarrassing and cringe and oh my gosh can't believe it happened

and we ask you guys to send us your shoot dude stories to our email shoot dude at gmail no not gmail shoot dude

shoot dude shoot dude at aol.com. Just kidding. Shootdude. S-H-O-O-T-D-O-O-D at Smosh.com. That's right. And we read them and we decide whether it's a shootdude or an uh-oh baby or something different.

Or if like maybe you're not even telling us a true story. Or a shitman. It could be a shitman. A shitman is if it gets scary. Yeah. A shootdude is supposed to be embarrassing. Yeah. I'm trying to think of my favorite one.

The person who like accidentally went into their parents' dresser. Yeah, their friend's mom's dresser and was looking at her underwear accidentally. I'm like, I don't buy it. That to me wasn't a shoot dude. That was a hmm. Okay. Hmm, sus. Hmm, sus dude.

Yeah, sus dude. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Hmm, sus, dude. Yeah, sus, dude. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. All right. I'm reading. This is from Sarah. Since I was three, I dreamt of becoming a professional dancer, and my mom put me into classes.

Growing up, I also had a tendency to just say words I heard my teenage sister say without knowing the meaning of them. So one day when I was four, I was in a Sunday school class that my dad taught, by the way, and a lady had sat down next to me and was asking me all these questions. She asked me what I wanted to be when I grow up. I looked up at her with the sweetest face, stood up, wiggled around, and said, my dream is to be an exotic dancer. My mom told me that I should follow my dreams. The lady was very concerned and talked to my parents afterwards. I didn't understand why being a fun, which is what I thought exotic meant, dancer

was such an issue. Aww. That's a cute... Cute dude. That's a cute dude. Cute dude. So, I say that because kids just don't realize what they're saying. Oh, yeah. My niece said something similar at one point. Go, go, go.

I think though, I'm not going to say which. No, no, no, I'll say it. I'm not going to say like which. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, I shouldn't hear the story. But so at one point, my mom asked my niece, she's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And she's, I think she said like, I want to be a lady on the street.

Oh my God. We were all like, I want to be a lady on the street. Oh my God. We're all like, oh my God. I don't think you know what that sounds like, but okay. That happens to the best of us guys. My nieces want to be a different profession every day. It'll be like, yeah, today I think I want to be an astronaut when I grow up. Tomorrow it'll be a cowboy. The next day it's a ninja.

Dude, when I was in fifth grade, there's a video of me where I literally just said it because my friends said it. And I'm just like, I'm Courtney, and I want to grow up to be a fashion designer. Aw. You kind of are. You have the hoo-hoo line. Yeah, but that's like, I kind of, those aren't really my ideas. It's just like, it's kind of a group effort.

Totally, totally. You're talking about like being. I would love to just create cool clothes. You know, just crop tees all day. Give me a shirt. I'll crop it. Watch out. Hold your shirt. That sounds ridiculous, but Yeezy's

line is honestly sometimes not far off from that. Of just like, yeah, we'll just put a shirt. We'll just put some Photoshop some images on it. I'm just gonna drop this in some oil and send it. I'm going to design a shoe after Styrofoam. Sell that for $500. The problem is they kind of look cool sometimes, but I'm not going to own a pair.

There's so much fun content we want to do once things start opening up in our area again. We talked about doing a video where we go to a thrift store and we buy each other outfits to go out in. I have fun with that. I have fun with that. I have fun with that. Fashion's fun, dude. Fashion's fun. Fashion TikTok. And what's wrong with wanting to be an exotic dancer, my guy?

Do whatever you want. Yeah. Wait until you're an adult. But understand what it is before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would research. I would suggest researching before you go into any profession. Yeah, hopefully you know what an exotic dancer is before you're like 10.

Wait, no. No, like she's four years old. How is she supposed to know? Oh, God. Just delete it. Just delete it. Look, for any adult, any legal career path, you know what? We respect it.

Hey, TikTok, right? Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. Right, teens? Am I right, teens? you know what we respect it hey TikTok right pretty crazy pretty crazy right teens am I right teens am I right teenagers am I right zoomers follow me on TikTok

and look actually you know what don't follow me on TikTok don't look at my TikTok yeah cause then you're just gonna have to jump in and make a new account

I'm telling you I'm telling you I'm gonna post some some of the weirdest jokes you've ever seen so you don't wanna see it that's my finishing thought here. I've found that the harder I try on a TikTok.

Actually, there's no consistency ever. Never mind. Well, that's been us on TikTok. Social media experts. That's right. That's what we are. Social media expert. I am definitely not.

The things that I will not admit that I do not know how to do on social media. There are things I don't do on social media because I simply don't know how. They say if you've been doing something for 10 years, it makes you a master at it. It's 10,000 hours. 10,000 hours? How many years is 10,000 hours? More than 10 years. Wait.

My math is I'm not good at math. How many years is 10,000 hours? 1.14 years. Well, but, but, sorry. What I meant was, to cram 10,000 hours, it's going to take. Yeah, obviously. Because you've got to sleep, too. Yeah.

Okay, I think we can start wrapping this podcast. Hey, now that we're done, let's just prove how dumb we are for 20 minutes. We're experts, guys. Love you guys. Yes. Hi, I'm Shane. We're experts, guys. Love you guys. Yes. Hi, I'm Shane. I'm a huge idiot. Thank you for listening.

Thank you for listening. So this is my first time back in the studio, in this podcast studio, since February. Wow. Maybe. Wow. It's nice to be back. Good to be back, gang. All right.

Well, you can listen to this podcast on any podcast app, but you're listening to it right now. And you can watch it on YouTube on Fridays. We're going to release it. And, you know, give it five stars. I'd definitely give this one five stars. I mean, come on. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you?

If I see a four star rating, I'm never going to come on the pod again. That's not how that works, Shane. Thanks for doing the outro. Yeah, no problem. Cool. Bye. Bye, guys. We love you.