Smosh Mouth - S2: #86 - The Haunting of Smosh Manor

Episode Date: October 28, 2020

Ian sets aside his skepticism to chat with Tommy and Rachel, Smosh’s in-house memelords and paranormal enthusiasts, about all things ~spooky— from growing up in a haunted house, to why you should stay far away from ouija boards. Give it a listen… or else. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hauntings are scary. So even if it's like an Ian Hecox just coming to like give you tiny forehead kisses in the morning. He's still a shadow figure. Yeah, he's still a shadow figure. I don't want that. Flying saucers could be experimental crafts that were made by humans. They just use the cover of aliens or it's unexplained.

We don't know what it is to just cover for like an actual just government made project. My mom thought, I'm gonna take my 10 or 11 year old son to see the movie signs. And so my dad jumps out of my room and he doesn't say boo. And he doesn't say what he says is aliens. And I peed a little bit. Wait.

You had to get the pre, the pre pod cough. I can't promise it won't happen again. Why? I smoke weed. Oh, gross. I know I'm awful. You're fucking disgusting. You still smoke it?

Ew. No, I just put it in my butt. We all, yeah, it's all suppository for me. You make fun, but that's a real thing. Yeah. If you ever want to get your low intestines like blitzed. Yeah. Just.

I mean, I know Jackass did that with like beer. They did like the butt chug, which is actually a really great way to die of alcohol poisoning because your membranes in the colon or whatnot will absorb the alcohol, but it bypasses your liver. It's just- So you just straight up get poisoned. And then you can donate your liver.

Exactly. Oh! So if you plan on dying from alcohol poisoning, just do it that way. Yeah, so please don't put alcohol on your butt. Anyway, hello. And it's amazing that we're talking about that because that's exactly what we're talking about today, which is spooky ghosts and goblins and aliens and cryptids.

I don't even know what that is, but we're going to find out today. Today I'm joined by Smosh Social Masters, Tommy Bo and Rachel Evans. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hello. I don't know if I should. I just never said your full name before. I don't think anybody has.

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Yeah, my name backwards is LaCar Snave. That's fun, right? Sims. Really? Yeah. I love The Sims. So that's what I chant if I want to get your ghost to go away. LaCar Snave just straight up sounds like a Lord of the Rings character.

It's the name I dance under. Yeah. So the reason that we brought Rachel and Tommy here today for this spooktacular spooky ghosts and goblins and aliens and cryptids episode is because you guys probably identify as believers, true believers of the ghosts and goblins or maybe just ghosts or something like that and aliens and such and so forth.

Correct. All of the so forths. Mm-hmm, et cetera. Okay. Yeah, so I guess I should probably mention this is Rachel's first ever introduction of any kind, I guess on Smosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I try to keep it behind the camera. Yeah, well guess what? Here I am. Here you are. But this isn't like the first time that you've done like a podcast. You had like your own oh podcast right yeah no i had a i was a youtuber for a few years on uh the channel i created was called snarled

which is i did a ghost and serial killer show on that and then i'm on i'm right now currently on the travel channel um for the past three seasons show called paranormal caught on camera oh yeah so so you're you're deep in, deep in this stuff. You can give some insider info. Yeah, basically people send in clips and I have to be like, that was a residual haunting. Oh. That was a duende.

A duende? Yeah, that's a cryptid, kind of. How much of it is information that's already floating around in your brain and how much of it is i need to research that floaty shape no 150 is already still there i the show that i did on starled was called dark five and i did somewhere around like 100 episodes of that uh and every episode was a different spooky thing i mean there are some things that i've had to brush up on like particle

physics but um sorry that you know you're like you're like i just had to brush up on like particle physics. But- Sorry. You know. You're like, I just had to brush up on like this extreme science. Oh, it hurts my brain every day and I don't know what I'm talking about, but I can try. I can do my best. Okay.

Yeah. So how did you even get into this then? What made you go, oh, okay, ghosts are real and now i want to know more about them i think similar to tommy i actually like haven't heard your story i almost touched your hand stop i'm so scared um i had i grew up in a haunted house like i grew up in a very old not like one that people set up for halloween like a one. Very old, like 1800s Texas house, where people used to do under the table surgeries in the basement.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bullet hole in one of the windows, like very classic surgery. Usually you don't do surgery with guns. That's why it was so chaotic. Texas, Texas. Oh, that's true. You can fix anything with a gun in Texas.

That's facts. That's true, that's true. Yeah, fix anything with a gun in Texas. That's facts. That's true. That's true. Yeah, I'm not going to tell that story. But when I was a kid, I mean, me and my sister had very similar experiences with a couple locations in the house. But the big one was my room was the cigar room. So my room back when it was first built was meant for gentlemen's clubs and card games and cigars. When I was about six years old, I had an experience with my grandfather when he died. He showed up on my bed because I slept over at his house. I left his house and

then he died. And then I took a nap when I got back to my house and I thought he was on the bed. And so I went into my parents' room and I was like, where's grandpa? Like, why did he come and hang out and then leave? And they're like, oh, honey, we have some bad news for you. But the experience in my room was like, that's when I learned to be comfortable with being scared. I was, I mean, because life is scary. Like, I'm, whatever. So I'm six years old. I'm sitting

in my bed and I see these huge like faces, like the best way I can describe it is as if we were playing guess who. And it's just like this caricature of a face. And one of them was like big and bald and had a cigar hanging out of his mouth. The other guy had these big round glasses and this bushy hair. And then there's another guy that was another bald guy, but very, very slim. And I was just staring at them talk to each other like they were not. And they were like in a semicircle above my bed and they weren't interacting with me at all. It's like I wasn't there. And I was just like watching them. I guess I screamed and my parents came into my room and they're like, what's wrong? And I was like, nothing. I'm just hanging out like I would scream

if I saw some big floating heads above me. Yeah, it was very spooky. It was very spooky. So that's when I first became comfortable with the idea that there are things that we don't understand and can't explain. And then I was just always a real freak. I was just always a weirdo growing up.

I didn't, I have friends, you know, I have friends. But yeah, I do. And then I did, but it kind of lends itself. Like when you are other than, it lends yourself to be a little bit more open to things that maybe other people might poo poo. Yeah, like ghost friends. Like ghost friends, exactly.

Or ghost mates, available on YouTube. T-Pain, Yeah, my favorite film. Thank you. Yeah, I did just watch it actually. Did you? Did you feel like it represented ghosts well? I thought it was a very fun representation of ghost activity. Did you scream and have your mom come in to check on you?

Well, every time. Yeah, every time I watch it. Was T-Pain not the best part of that movie? Oh, absolutely. He's great. He's so good. But I love T-Pain not the best part of that movie? Oh, absolutely. He's great. He's so good. But I love T-Pain. He's pretty amazing.

Yeah. He's pretty great. He was drinking something the whole time we were filming. During Ghostmates? Yeah. And he just only got better as the hours went on. Okay. So haunted house under the table, surgery room, cigar room,

spooky, misogynistic men. I don't know. I don't want to put them on that. Put that on them. Okay. Well, they probably can't hear you. They're still stuck in there. Yeah, and from what I understand,

it was the late 1800s. I'm sure they hated me. You know, everything about me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so Tommy. Yes.

So she said you had a similar introduction to spooky ghosts. Yeah, I mean, yeah. When I was like, my house wasn't so immediately haunted. Right, it's not like I had like so many visuals to do, but there is a, there was like always a, you know, feeling of like being watched. And it's like, my house is one of the older ones in South Florida.

It's from like the sixties or something. So there's some history. I don't know. I don't think anyone died there, but I don't know. Probably did. Probably. Is the South just more haunted? Yes.

It is. Yeah. Any place with, well, I mean the South, any place that has like more war and contention is going to be more haunted and it's not just

for the obvious reasons of like people died here. It's also an energy thing. I guess there's probably just war and contention everywhere though, right? Kind of.

What do you think is the least, sorry, we'll get back to your story, Tom, because I don't want to tangent too much. No,

I love this. What do you think is the least haunted place? we'll get back to your story, Tom. Because I don't want a tangent too much. No, I love this. What do you think is the least haunted place? Sweden. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, these cute little- Wait, the home of the Vikings? Yeah.

You think that all that- I don't think they're hanging around. We're not saying not haunted, we're saying least haunted. Least haunted, okay. I feel- You think they're not hanging around? You think they're pretty content?

Yeah, because it's usually what? Like suffering, extreme emotions, crazy, weird deaths, stuff like that, that like imprints on a place, right? And it's also the willingness of the people to believe in it. Right. And I know that that's where this all becomes like, but yeah, but you know, it's an energy thing.

And so if people are more about that ghost life, then there's going to be more ghost sightings and more, yeah, ghosts in general. So you think the Swedes just don't care? I think they probably have more like of a culture. Like a neutral culture? Yeah. Where they're just like, I don't know. Yeah.

No, it's okay. It's fine. Well, I don't know. You're Swedish. Look at your hair. I'm not. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. No, it's okay. It's fine. Well, I don't know. You're Swedish. Look at your hair. I'm not. Oh, yeah, I'm Swedish now, yeah. I've adopted their culture.

You'll kill James Bond soon enough, I promise. Yeah, I'm just waiting for my hairless cat. You're waiting for it? You're like, it's coming in the mail. And I'm working on getting like a really dope scar that goes down one eye. So sorry. So I was tangenting.

I'm so sorry, Tommy. Yeah. So tell me about your- Well, it's like me growing up, I didn't have a lot of like ghost things. Like, I mean, I saw I had a nutcracker that my mom got me. It was cute.

Every Christmas, my mom would get me nutcrackers and she would hide them around the house and I would find them and it was cute. But one time I put the nutcracker in the middle of the room and I like went to the bathroom. And then when I came back, the little mouth thing was open and then it closed. So it was just like a little like movement thing,

but that was enough for me to go like, oh, got it, got it, got it, got it. So then that kind of like stuck with me. And then moving forward, I haven't really had many ghost adventures except for the current apartment that I'm in, which I've talked about on the podcast before, but. Go on.

Go ahead and- You want me to go? Go ahead and say it again. Yeah, because I haven't heard this. Refresh it for the audience. Okay, hi audience. Are you refreshed? Okay, so in my apartment, there are, what?

Rachel, your hair. I'm so sorry. This is a grudge thing. This is a spooky grudge thing. Your hair keeps coming out of Tommy's mouth. It's me. Or is it the ring? Is it the ring or the grudge?

It's both. It's both. Just ring has the, what's up with J-Hor and just hair coming out of his mouth? Okay, so basically I'm trying to like find like the best place to start. So basically. Did it arrive with that horse of yours that you have?

You know, maybe. So I have a, I like scary artifacts and that's just kind of me bringing it onto myself. One time I was in New York and I was walking down a street and there was a painting of this weird, like faded painting of this Chinese woman with like bags on the floor and like a house in the background, but it's like half finished. And I was like, she's trapped in that.

She's trapped in that painting. That's what I'm saying. I there's something, I'm like, there's something inside it. Anyway, I saw it and I was like, I have to get this painting. Don't know why I just drawn to it and I bought it. And then it's been with me ever since. And that's probably the first bad sign. Yeah. Well, that's the, probably the cursed item anyway so i'm in my kitchen my roommate by the way has experienced everything with me so i'm not alone in this okay i'm not like you know it's not just my peripherals acting up my garbage can lid it was one of those swingy guys so every once in a while it would just go and i would be like okay well no one's throwing anything away and that would happen for a while and my my roommate brandon and i would be like, okay, well, no, I'm just throwing anything away. And that would happen for a while. And my roommate, Brandon and I were just like, okay, that's a little strange.

And then we started seeing again, peripherals, right? When you're looking at something for so long, your peripherals start to like not interact anymore or whatever. And so you can start to see things in your peripheral. Sure. So in the corner of my apartment, which you can see the staircase, if you go onto Smosh's Instagram and you look at that reel that I made for registering to vote, this little staircase is in the corner of my apartment. And when you're at the sink, you can see it out of the corner of your eye and it goes up to this halfway point and then goes further up.

In that halfway point, perfectly spooky, swear to God. No. Woman, five foot five, five seven, something like that, shadow for person would just be standing there. I wouldn't die. I know. So that was like there. And I was like, every once in a while, I'd be like, dart over and look, gone, fine.

And I'm like, okay, fine, whatever. Then I had another friend over and my roommate Brandon was there and I was talking to my friend and I was like, you know, I just wanna know, have you ever seen, and he's like, the woman that stands in your staircase? Yes, I have.

And I was like, ooh! So that confirmed it. And I think, again, about the once you believe it, it's real. Then I was like, oh, no, no. So the event, the big event, the big poltergeist event. That wasn't it?

The apparition you saw wasn't it? Okay. So it's like two in the morning. I don't need to get into the details about the event, but basically there was a sound that sounded like something was banging in the walls. The way my apartment is built, there's no way something could be stuck in a vent

where the sound was coming from because there is no air conditioner vent in that area. sound was like rattling and crazy and my roommate texted me and he's like what is that and i'm like i don't know and so like i look out it's nothing there there's nothing there so i just sit in my bed and i'm like i hate this uh the sound travels from the corner again not an air vent it's just kind of like a like of sound, just like a pattering thumping constant. Couldn't that just be like a mouse or a rat in the wall? If the rat was like doing parkour and just like going like thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk.

So it travels to the center of the room, of my room. My two roommates live upstairs, I'm downstairs, so I'm alone. The sound stops, I take a breath. I'm like, okay, that was crazy. And then my bathroom door does that classic like thing and like slowly opens up. And I couldn't fall asleep that night.

Next day, me and my roommate take Sage and Palo Santo go into every corner of the apartment and I was like, okay. And because I'm like, if I'm ever gonna come in contact with a ghost, I'm gonna treat it like a person. So I was like, hey. And because I'm like, if I'm ever gonna come in contact with a ghost, I'm gonna treat it like a person. So I was like, hey, so you gotta get out. This kind of sucks. And so I was like doing that.

Next morning after cleansing the apartment, the picture frames on my living room wall were all on the ground. Yeah, you can't treat something like a person if it's not a person. I know. That's awful. That's my story.

That is awful. That's my story. That is awful. That's terrible. There's so many elements to this. So this is like what happens on the show is people send it in and I go, okay, well let's break this up. There's so many elements to this that make it not a traditional,

like just ghost haunting that I'm like, you need to get rid of that picture immediately. Or it's you. It's probably me. Yeah, honestly might be you because like polter need to get rid of that picture immediately, or it's you. It's probably me. Yeah, it honestly might be you. It's probably me. Because like poltergeist and things like that and like succubus spirit, especially if you feel yourself

being a little bit more tired. Oh, all the time. Something like that is something called a succubus spirit and their intention, the point of their existence is to live off of your energy. Oh my God, I have a dependent. That's so sweet. Tax purposes is great. Okay. point of their existence is to live off of your energy. Oh my God, I have a dependent. That's so sweet. Tax purposes is great.

Okay. But also Tommy's an editor. Editors are always tired. Sure, sure. But you also know yourself and I hopefully don't work you the same way that you could possibly be worked. So I mean, from what it sounds like, the full body apparition is not normal.

Okay. It wasn't like solid. It's very shadowy. But yeah, no, it's an apparition. You saw that it was a woman. Who else saw it? Just my friend that had come over. And he's been over to my apartment often.

So he didn't, we had never talked about the person on the stairs before. So he just. But he had seen it at some other time. Yeah, he has. And I guess didn't bring it up because he like. How could he not bring that up? I know. I know.

Like, what is that? What is that friend? Maybe he brought it. Maybe he's. Maybe he feels bad. I'm so interested in. So there's so many elements to this. First of all all what the first

story gave me pause because that's object manipulation toy manipulation specifically is the scariest part of haunting for me because when something is trying to manipulate something as innocent as they're gonna be so many people in the audience being like oh my gosh. But that's okay. There's, with the toy manipulation, that's exact juxtaposition of innocence. So the idea of something going into a children's toy to try to communicate is nefarious. That was ages ago. Are we sure it's the same person?

No, but that was very scary. That's a very scary thing to me, especially if it's something to do with Christmas. Like I'm Jewish, so I don't believe in like demonology, scary that's a very scary thing to me especially if it's something to do with christmas like i'm jewish so i don't believe in like demonology but um with like nefarious spirit they will use your icons against you they'll use your tools against you so that they can better communicate and make you more afraid gotcha so uh why would they benefit from you being afraid because if it's a succubus, yeah.

It's supposed to make you afraid. Or if it's like a Loki type spirit, if it's a nefarious spirit, which most people or some people would call- Did you say Loki or Loki? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like fun trickster guy. Oh, got it. I feel like I would be that.

I would be a fun trickster spirit. I mean- Oh, that's in the works for you once you pass. Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna be so fucking annoying when I'm a ghost. I wish that were you. You'd be like, that's in the works for you. Once you pass. I'm going to be so fucking annoying. I wish that for you. You'd be like, wake up.

Good morning. Hi. But that's the thing too, is that like hauntings are scary. So even if it's like an Ian Hecox, just coming to like, give you tiny forehead kisses in the morning. He's still a shadow figure.

Yeah. He's still a shadow figure. I don't want that. Like he's going to be terrified. But with yours, like, first of all, don't take artifacts. Don't do it. It's not worth it.

Especially if you're going on like a hunt or an investigation. I'm screwed. Yeah. Just don't. If you ever go on an investigation. I won't. You don't want to? No.

Oh, okay. No, my helm is enough for me. I'm going to take Kevin. Yeah, take him. No, it's fine. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. But Kevin, seriously, don't take anything from that investigation because it'll follow you back.

Okay, gotcha. Yeah. You know? So it kind of sounds like that to me. It's the picture, probably. If you need a shaman, let me know. The sage isn't going to do anything. I'll post the picture on my Instagram or something when this comes out.

So someone, anyone who wants to see the terror. It's a bad picture. Look, it's scary. It's scary. It's a scary picture. I had like this like 1920s lobotomy needle that I bought. Oh. Yeah. Used?

Yes, used. Had like all this dried blood on it and stuff. And it was so, it was very cool. Yeah. Wait, why was there dried blood left on it? It was stained. Like it was rusted and Wait, why was there dried blood left on it? It was stained. Like it was rusted and stained. From being inside a noggin.

Yeah, from being inside a noggin. It was back before they did the eyeball way of it too. So it was real, real brain stuff. Oh, that's because they used to drill. They used to drill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there was, yeah, okay. But I took it home.

I took it home from the oddities museum. And for the next two weeks, I couldn't sleep. I don't know if that was in my head or I just couldn't sleep. So I took it home. I took it home from the oddities museum. And for the next two weeks, I couldn't sleep. I don't know if that was in my head or I just couldn't sleep. So I took it back. I was like, no, I'm not even going to test this. Makes sense. I have a question for Ian. Would you consider yourself a skeptic within this or somebody who is open to it, but you're

not necessarily convinced? I mean, like I'm, I'm still like, obviously I'm still very skeptical. But I mean, I know somebody, somebody like that I know very close seem to have a lot of very believable interactions and sightings. And I know they had no reason to like make things up. And I mean, I believe that there's I believe that there's something. I don't know what it is and i think that there's there's definitely something like whether it's i don't energy or or ghosts or spirits or there there's something like there there has to be a reason why we've seen or felt these things and it's not and it can't just be chalked up to you know some neuron firing in the way that it wasn't supposed to. You witnessed physical things moving in ways

that they shouldn't be. So, I mean, what's the explanation for that? I don't have an explanation for it. Could be multiverse stuff if you wanna get into that. Sure. I mean, just in life. Open up that can of worms. And also, I've just heard more and more stories.

Gosh, I heard this one story. I just looked it up cause I was listening to this podcast and they did this one episode on the first recorded haunting in the US. Have you ever heard about this one? No. The one that was in Maine. In 1799, some traveling preacher recorded this instance that had, he had 31 eyewitness testimonies.

Okay. Wow. And so basically, I won't bother telling the whole story, but basically like this guy's wife dies. And then her ghost comes back back takes shape of his wife she's talking tells him that he should like get get married with this woman who was 15 at the time so it's a little sketchy and obviously people didn't approve of that so this ghost is a little weird um but basically like she would appear down in his cellar. So he was like, oh my God, I can't believe this.

It's the ghost of my wife. So he starts bringing people down there. And like sometimes she would show up and she would talk to them. And she would talk about like a wide range of things, like about like religion and like other stuff. This sounds like the coolest parlor trick i know all i can think about is like so where did they put the mirrors yeah so the smoke at first the apparition was a mere mass of light then grew into personal form about as tall as

myself we stood in two ranks about four or five feet apart. Between these ranks, she slowly passed and repassed so that any of us could have handled her. At least the personal form became shapeless, expanded every way, and then vanished in a moment. Sounds about right. So then I remember later in the story, people obviously thought that she was up to something, like that it was some kind of a trick.

She said, claiming to be the spirit of Nellie Butler, the ghost sought to orchestrate the marriage of Nellie Butler's former husband, 29-year-old George Butler to Lydia Blaisdell, who was 15 years old at the time. Get out of there, Lydia. Hey man, 1700s, they're crazy. The way you're phrasing this

is the ghost took the form of blank. Is this leading to this ghost is not the wife? Because the way this is phrased is like. I don't know. It said that the spirit. I thought he would exhume the body or something to prove that she was dead. Oh, yeah. That's what I would do.

It said the spirit was relentless, visiting multiple times and answering personal questions to prove its identity there's no way she's like i hope this email finds you well yeah and then it said on on may 28 1800 lydia and joy george were married on butler point the next day the ghost appeared and prophesied that lydia would bear one child and die soon after this prophecy which, which came to fruition ten months later, echoed the sad fate of Nellie Butler, who died of childbirth when she was 22 years old. Because her hips weren't developed yet.

That's awful. They could probably gimmick something to fool you, but the fact that... The prophecy. That's where it got me, because I was like, sounds like a dude just wanted to marry a teenager. Yeah. But then, how do you explain it passing through people the it's just so weird i've never not never but i haven't usually when you hear about ghosts communicating it's through like evp through broken language it's not apparently she's having just full-blown conversations

wow that is interesting and then it said the last time the ghost was reported in Sullivan was in mid August when it followed a procession of 48 people from the Blaisdell house, because everyone was like, Oh, this must be a trick that you're, you have some kind of trap door here in the cellar. So she's like,

all right, fucking follow me. So she, the ghost, she, the ghost said that. So she said, I think it was, I think she said like, all right, fucking follow me. So- She the ghost? She the ghost said that. So she said, I think it was, I think she said like, okay,

meet me over at this house, which is a half mile away. And its agenda was to confront a skeptic and show is capable of appearing outside the home. Whoa, Nellie. Whatever Nellie tapped into after dying is what, that's the kind of haunt I want. I'm just like, hey, you wanna play Mario Kart?

I don't mean to freak you out or anything, but I'm here. I'm fully here. Yeah, and it said, at the end of the vigil, the ghost appeared before the crowd in the field and then vanished from the town for good. Oh, why don't we get that anymore? I just got full body chills. I did too.

I'm just, just the imagery of like a very small ghost in a very big field from far away being like, and then just like gone. Ooh, Ooh. I'm still so scared. I'm still so scared of ghosts.

And it's, I think it's because you don't, because it's an unknown, we don't know what they're capable of. Right. It's like, I don't know what the rules are. Yeah.

Just the more, the more videos I watch of people sending me their stuff, the more I'm like, I don't know what the rules are. Yeah, just the more videos I watch of people sending me their stuff, the more I'm like, well, first of all, you become attunely aware that like, yeah, you should be a skeptic. Everyone should be a skeptic because you should try to prove it with science.

And then once you can't do that, explore it. But also there are some things happening to people around the world right now that is horrifying like can i get a best of oh god i mean it's hard to but there's the scariest stuff for me is the cryptid stuff okay because which you don't know what that is i don't know what that is cryptids are um basically like evolutionary creatures like the idea of it is that they are animals or animal adjacent so like bigfoot loch ness monster uh the du of it is that they are animals or animal adjacent. So like Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, the Duende, which is a Spanish or Filipino folklore, a little troll that steals kids and stuff. Chupacabra. Chupacabra.

That's a cryptid. There's an element of it that it is science because you're looking at something that is unidentifiable by the human eye to be anything that we have identified as animal, but it exists and it's there and it's on camera. But we haven't found its bones. But what is it? We have found cryptid bones, but not like Bigfoot bones or anything like that.

But like what kind of bones? There's been like sea creature bones that we've found that have been like, but those are just dinosaur stuff. I mean, for me, that when it becomes real, that's when it gets scary. I mean, we know more about space than we know about the ocean. So the fact that there are creatures that live in an environment that is literally alien to us, that's aliens. That's aliens.

I mean, that's aliens. I mean, that's aliens. And so, I mean, there's a world in which they can come into our world, our land, our space, and we just have no idea what they are. And then, you know, you get into the fun kind of idea of mysticism and there are creatures in the woods and that's just fun, you know, that's just a little bit of fun.

But when you see a creature and you're like, I can't tell you what that is. Yeah. Well, we don't know everything. And like you said, there's a lot about in the ocean that we don't know. So they could be monsters. Who knows? Could be a monster under your bed.

Well, we actually asked you guys on Twitter a series of questions. We asked if you guys believe in ghosts. And actually quite an overwhelming majority of you, 60 to 40 about, said that you believe in ghosts. Okay. That's actually, I'm actually surprised. I feel like it hasn't always been like that. But maybe it's just because of like social media

and people are able to share their stories easier. Do you believe in aliens? Huge majority said yes. Hell yeah. And Kevin said no. Kevin, hold on. Kevin, you don't believe in aliens? I believe aliens exist out there.

They found our way. There's, I thought I could get it. You don't believe that aliens have made contact. I don't believe they're just hanging out. You're a Fermi paradox boy. Fermi paradox boy. Fermi paradox boy. You're wrong, oh. You don't believe that aliens have made contact. I don't believe they're just hanging out. You're a Fermi paradox boy. Fermi paradox boy. Fermi paradox boy. You're wrong, but cool.

Call me out on the podcast, by the way, public platforms. Well, you explained yourself. Also, Kevin said that he doesn't believe in ghosts. Am I gonna have to dox you? Do I have to go? So he's just sitting back there just like, I hate this episode. I actually love this episode. I love it.

Yes, but you are wrong. Very wrong. I mean, they got it. I mean, aliens got to exist. I don't know if they visited here. Just for fun, I voted yes and they're here. But because we gave three options on that was yes, no, or yes, and they're here. I think they're here. They're here.

Yeah. You think they're here? Yeah, for sure. What do you think is an Area 51? Oh, I had an interview with an ex-Area 51 guard who was on, like, had, like, fifth level security clearance. What? This is how I spend my free time. Yeah, they're real and they're working with our government.

I know I sound crazy. That's the thing. There's no way not to sound crazy. That's the thing. There's no way not to sound crazy. Don't you think we would be like leagues ahead of other countries if we were truly working with aliens? I don't think that we're necessarily actively working with aliens. But I do think that alien technology, like we have like borrowed from alien technology, specifically like cloaking and like ship cloaking and our communication devices. So, yeah, I mean, you know. and like ship cloaking and our communication devices. So yeah, I mean, you know. You don't think that was just through like just a reasonable progression in technology

like we had. Could be. Yeah, when you say communication devices, do you mean our little phones? Like cell phones. What a weird way to say cell phone, huh? Our little phones. Like you don't think we got to cell phone communication without aliens?

Not necessarily saying that, but there's... No shame. I know there's so much shame we're talking about. This is only shame. Because there's literally no way to talk about this stuff without sounding crazy. But then eventually, like what happened a couple months ago when the CIA uncovered documents proving that aliens exist and proving that we have created, more or less, teleportation through particle physics.

It's hard to say, like, okay, you- Wait, wait, hold on. You can't just randomly say teleportation and just keep moving on in your sentence. It's casual. I believe it. So basically, there was a document that was after the alien document.

There was a document uncovered by the CIA that, or declassified, I should say, by the CIA that talks about holographic and mirror theory, hypothesizes that we are living in somewhat of a simulation. Like there might be half truths to what our physical world is, but the other half of those truths, like time and space and stuff like that,

are created through a hologram. And this was actually proven by medical science because something like five to 10, I'm sorry, I don't know the actual date, but five to 10 years ago, there was a woman who lost half of her hemisphere, half of her brain hemisphere in a terrible accident. They recreated it through hologram and now she,

or through holograph, and she is now able to live a full life using the full function of her brain because half of her brain, the right half believes that there is a left hemisphere there. Is that what you mean by holograph? That is what I mean by holograph, yeah.

And that kind of ties back into like, go surreal if you believe into it. Exactly. Into it? Into it, absolutely. You that what you mean by holograph? That is what I mean by holograph. Yeah. And that kind of ties back into like, go surreal if you believe into it. Exactly. Into it? Into it. Absolutely. Because you are manifesting. That's why like... You lost me fully. How? What part? Well, there's like phantom limb syndrome. There's like stuff like that where it's like your brain just kind of like... Autocompletes. Because really it's only your brain talking to itself. Right. So yeah. There was a study study i watched a documentary about it where a guy how was missing a limb i think it was like an arm or a leg and then and he had an itch on it like his body was like it's itchy but he couldn't scratch it so to fix it they placed a mirror

down the center had him close one eye and then look at it so to his brain he saw the other half his body then he reached out and scratched his right leg and he felt it on his left leg holographs okay i mean yeah it's pretty crazy we also don't understand our brains we don't lately right but that was not that was not a function i mean it was a function of our brain because that's our home base that's our mothership that's our thinking epicenter but it wasn't a function of the brain that it was capable it wasn't because of the brain that hollow that the holographic surgery worked it's because the theory of holographs work or holograms work but yeah and then that tied in with like that got into the whole like particle physics of it all which basically means that two protons can be very close to each other and then um if And then if they have the same weight,

so if they're spinning at the exact same speed and direction, they become twins more or less. And you can separate those two protons by any space and time. You're talking about quantum entanglement? Exactly. But that's what that is. So there's a reality. That's ghosts.

Yeah, it's ghosts. That's ghosts. That's ghosts because half of it's that's ghosts. Oh, you get it now. That's what that is. So there's a reality. That's ghosts. That's ghosts. That's ghosts because half of it's that's ghosts. Oh, you get it now. That's ghosts. Yeah. You do some surgery down in your basement. You get two protons pissed off.

You separate them. Yeah. I feel like. That's ghosts. I feel. How do you feel, Ian? I'm not discounting the research you've done, but I feel like it's not responsible for us to have these

conversations without a physicist here. Sure. I mean, you know, when you're talking about particle physics, like that's just the words that I just said are just like, Googleable, like easy words, you know, if you're talking about like the theory of it all, totally agree with you. Like, but yeah, I had a friend, I had a friend tell me about quantum entanglement and it's very interesting. It's very interesting. It's very confusing and you can't explain it. Science can't explain it.

That's the big thing. Like, of course I can't explain it. I'm dumb Rachel, but like science can't explain it, which is like, we're gonna call dumb science? No. I love your full name, dumb Rachel. Thank you. Dumb Rachel.

Only my mom calls me that. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, okay, that. Thank you. Rachel. Only my mom calls me that. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, okay. That's I, you know, it's so funny.

Cause like all the shit that happened this year, I did totally forget about the whole, like the UFO, US Navy UFO videos. That was, that shit was crazy. But also like there, there is the argument that,

you know, all the stuff that we've seen, like with like area 51 and, you know, even the Navy video. It could also be said that were made by humans, but they just use the cover of aliens or, you know, it's unexplained. We don't know what it is to just cover for like an actual just government made project. That's fair. That's fair.

I mistrust the government just as much as I believe in aliens. So that's fair to me. So that's, I mean, that's always kind of been, that's always kind of been the argument of like, well, okay, yeah, people saw that thing, but it's maybe it was just a thing that was actually manmade. Scarier to me for some reason. But I mean, the science that's,

I mean, the technology that was on display with what those videos were showing was insane. Yeah. Because you had like this little like thing that looked like a grain of rice that suddenly accelerated like a hundred times faster than anything else, like would just change direction immediately.

And no plane can do that. Yes, like aliens. So yeah, one could say, one could say aliens. You say aliens scare you more than anything else? Yes. Is it because they're intelligent? It's because they're physical. Cause it's like, so the thing with,

the thing with ghosts is like, you don't know what they're capable of, you don't know the rules. However, they are ethereal, they are, you know, extra. Well, so are aliensereal. They are, you know, extra, right? They're well, so are aliens, but with aliens, they're like physical things that have technology that can do things. So it's like a ghost is in my room and it's banging on the ceiling. That's scary. But what's scarier is, oh, all of a sudden I'm taken out of my room physically. I'm, you know,

probed or whatever. And then I'm sent back to my room physically. I'm, you know, probed or whatever. And then I'm sent back to my room and a big flash of white light happens and I don't remember it. That's worse to me. That's worse to me. So that's why I'm very scared of aliens. Well, I have a whole thing about why I'm scared of aliens

for real, but I don't, we don't have to get into it if it's not there. Yes, get into it. I'm dying to know. Let's get into it. Okay. Okay. So I am calling out not there. Yes, get into it. I'm dying to know. Let's get into it. Okay. Okay. So I am calling out my mom on this, but she knows. So are we all familiar with the movie Signs?

Yeah. Let's also keep in mind, Tommy grew up in Florida. So whatever alien he might've seen could have just been a Florida man. This is very true. And yeah, I have seen something. I will get into that. So yeah.

Man, I am a little paranormal baby. I didn't realize. I didn't realize my mom saw the poster, like the movie poster for Signs or she saw a commercial for it or something. And she thought, I'm gonna take my 10 or 11 year old son to the movie theater to see the movie Signs. We're in the theater. She looks around. I'm the only my 10 or 11 year old son to the movie theater to see the movie signs.

We're in the theater, she looks around, I'm the only child. And so, yeah, about, I don't know, 20 minutes in, she realizes this is the wrong thing to do to my son, but we stayed and we watched the movie. It's not a fun alien romp. No, it's not. I will forever now look at roofs of buildings at night

because of that imagery and signs of like the thing standing on the- I hated that scene. Yeah. So, and I'll never go to Mexico and just look down an alleyway. Oh my God. I don't suggest that.

Don't, the- Inagurae, Inagurae. Whomp. Yeah, like the freeze frame. Okay. So I leave that movie theater. Okay. Having thought about aliens, but never really thought about aliens.

So I'm like broken now. How old are you? 10? 10, probably. 10 or 11. I mean, it's somewhere in there. So my mom texts my dad and she's like, so that was a very scary alien movie

and our son's kind of fucked. Might be a forever thing. A forever thing. And so because my father is the oldest of five children, he decides it would be very fun to hide in my room. No! I love it. I know. to hide in my room. No! I love it. I know.

Your dad is my dad. Yeah, your dad's my dad too. Okay, great, I love this. And so my dad jumps out of my room and he doesn't say boo, and he doesn't say, what he says is aliens. And I peed a little bit and I was so damn scared. So anyway, that was the-

That's the scariest thing, because aliens would say that. It's like, I don't know how to do. Human. Yeah, so that was, that really like, sent it all home in my brain. So from then on I was like, uh oh aliens, right? So then cut to college.

I'm with three other friends, one of which is in the back seat with me. We are driving at 1 a.m.ish, I don't know, one of which is in the backseat with me. We are driving at 1 a.m.-ish. And you're looking at rooftops. Unfortunately, we're on a very small little scary road thing. Well, it's not small. It's like I-95,

but it's the part of 95 where it's just trees. So we're technically driving up to Georgia to see St. Vincent in concert. I look out of the... I'm on the right side. And there's like no lights, right? No lights. There's no street lights.

It's just tree canopy. It's the lights of the like headlights, exactly. Yeah. And so I look over to the car that is pulling up next to us to, you know, they're going a little bit faster than us. And as it pulls up, I look over, the dash board like radio light was on. So it's lit from like under, like whatever,

the alien that was driving the car was lit from like kind of under and like from the side. So it wasn't lit in a way where I could see its features because it's more of a silhouette thing. And so like, sure, it's a weird silhouette. It's not an alien. But I had that like feeling that like tummy feeling where you go like where your animal instincts kick in and it's like, you got to run. That's not good. And so I had that feeling, looked at it, by the way, don't want to say grasshopper shaped, but like picture, picture, you know,

a person driving a car and you're seeing them from the side. The wrist joint was not in the right spot. It was like halfway down the arm. So long hands or something. The head was bizarrely small on top of a like neck thing and like hanging over. It's like as if, as if- Was there not a Comic-Con that was going on?

Lord, I wish. Somewhere nearby. I need to research that because if that relieves me of this memory, I'll do it. And Homeboy was driving the car? That's what I'm saying. You're saying an alien was driving like a Toyota Corolla through the middle of the night in Florida.

That's what I'm saying. Dude, we're in skin suits. But I, so I have the thing that makes it all horrible um is i have that horrible feeling and i look i look away and i'm like okay i couldn't have seen that there's no way i saw that there's no way anyone in the car with you yes there were two people uh two people in the front one in the back with me and i of course look over to my friend who is next to me and she's going um um and i'm like and i'm like wait did I'm like, wait, did you just fucking, she's like, did you just fucking see the alien?

We're like, ah! And so, and yeah, and so. So you guys followed it, right? No, no. So we end up at the motel that we're staying at and we both get a pen and pad out and draw what we saw and it's the same thing. No.

So, don't know what that was. But are you sure it wasn't like, maybe it was like, you know, maybe there was like an extermination company that was like just shooting a commercial where like a guy was dressed up as like a grasshopper. And then he was like, and then he was like going, driving back from the commercial shoot. But he couldn't take the clothes off. He didn't have a jaw and his wrists were wrong. He didn't the clothes off. He didn't have a jaw and his wrists were wrong.

We didn't have a jaw. We didn't have a jaw. To the people who are listening to this, they're all doing the Uru thing and touching their fingertips together. It couldn't be. No. Like I know that,

it's so funny that we're sitting here like, of course it was a grasshopper person, Ian. If I had to wear the weird suit for some reason maybe I'd also drive through the night in Florida and freak people out from the car. Shrink your head and displace your joints. What kind of car was it?

I can't say that I remember the car. It wasn't anything fancy. That's all I know. It wasn't an old... Exactly. It wasn't a run down car and it wasn't a fancy car. It was just a car. Oh my God, that reminds me of Men in Black. Not the movie.

I was gonna say, did it ask for sugar water? Not the movie, the thing. Oh, the actual Men in Black? Yes, thank you, Tommy. Yeah. Thank you, Tommy. You've seen that strange video that was taken of the, there's like a security camera footage of these two men. Do you wanna take this one?

No, please do. Okay. And I like how we're like, you know the story. Do you want to take this one? No, please do. Okay. And I like how we're like, you know the story. Do you want to tell it? They, I think there was a UFO sighting of some kind or some kind of thing that would draw these, but two identical men that are in black suits that are bizarrely tall. There's like something off about the shape of the body,

but they both come in to, I believe a hotel. I don't remember the rest of the story. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,. And anytime some paranormal activity happens, they come and try to correct any sort of like ripple effect that may have happened in the world.

And there are some more nefarious ideas of what they could be. They're associated with black eyed children, which are hybrid alien children. Yeah. Tommy, I just love you. But yeah, no, they come in and then they, it's like they put the briefcase down and then they disappear.

It's like this, that's kind of the, the move people who said that they've seen men and the men in black, they described them as having very light lilac skin. And yep. And black eyes. Oh God. It just freaks me out. And you yep. And black eyes. Oh, God. It just freaks me out. And, you know, I don't, I just would prefer

to live in a world where people could be wearing skin suits. Like, I want to live in this world. I know that doesn't sound right. No, but me too. It's exciting. It's exciting. Are you looking up Men in Black right now? Yeah. Ha! Yes, you are.

Kind of. For those listening, Ian on his laptop is scrolling through tons of photos of men in black. And as you would expect, most of them have that big red circle. Or the red arrow. Or the red arrow to point. These are men in black. And you can see them throughout history too. Like there are pictures of the men in black from the late 1960s and stuff.

There's also, I don't know the painting, so I'm gonna sound like a dum-dum who doesn't know anything, but there is a very old painting from Renaissance or something. And there is a UFO in it. They painted a UFO in the corner. There's UFOs in cave paintings as well.

Yeah. In cave art. Yeah. So aliens are real. I don't know what you guys think of that. Do you believe now, Kevin? Okay. That's a yes to me. Put me on the spot. I don't know what you guys think of that. Do you believe now, Kevin? Okay. That's a yes to me.

Put me on the spot. I don't want to put you on the spot. I just like need to understand the perspective that aliens don't exist because like the universe exists. Fundamentally, there's other life. Fermi's paradox is the one I always refer to. So that there probably is other life out there. The universe is so, so huge. Right.

The odds of us running into something within that amount of time is crazy. But then again, what do I know? I'm just a guy who films a podcast. I mean, what do we know? You're more than that. Look at us. You're watching the Men in Black video I see. Oh, that one.

You're just like, that's two guys. I mean, they have two guys in black suits. Spooky. Why do they choose the dress like in Western suit fashion? I think it's probably the only, it's the only thing that could like keep all their arms in. Yeah.

Or something like that. Intergalactic space cowboys. So y'all believe in aliens. I believe in them. I think they exist. I don't know if they're here, but I'd say, I don't know. I don't know everything.'re here, but I'd say, I don't know.

I don't know everything. All right. So let's move on to this next question because I'm properly spooked, especially after that fucking weird story. That's crazy. Cricket guy. Yep.

This one actually surprised me. Get it. That surprised me. This question is, have you ever used a Ouija board? 15% of you said yes, 84% of you said no. So ill-advised. I cannot, both of us are like, don't do that. But guess what?

Don't do that. Guess who has used a Ouija board? No. Kevin. You're not allowed on any more ghost heads. What? Kevin doesn't believe in ghosts, he doesn't believe in aliens.

And but he believes in using a Ouija board. It was, what's the company that makes it? Hasbro or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Don't use a Ouija board. I was a kid. I didn't know what it was.

I thought it was just fun. Don't take him on a thing. He's gonna take something else. I didn't bring anything. I was anyways. You're gonna bring your demons. So have you Ian used a Ouija board? I think so.

Why? Just for fun. What, why? Just for fun. See? It's not fun. I mean, like, I don't know. We just wanted, I mean, it's, it was that whole thing where you're like, huh, okay, all right,

well, somebody's definitely moving this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We didn't like set up candles and shit. Like we just busted it out and like sat down in the middle of a room. Did you hold hands? In broad daylight.

No. Then you're fine. You're fine. As long as you didn't create the circle. Because you have to break the circle if you create the circle. If you don't break the circle, Kevin. You're bound forever. And you have to say goodbye.

To buying Milton Bradley products. Yeah. Oh, Milton Bradley. No, Ouija boards are 10 out of 10. Don't mess with them. Yep. Aren't they just like a cardboard? Yeah.

I mean, you know, a ghost is just a fart in the wind if you believe that. What kind of powers would this mass produced cardboard box like have? Like, is it just in your beliefs, is it the ritual of conjuring something? So it's the people getting together that do a certain thing a certain way and the spirit's like, oh! Yeah, it's like the power of intention. Like whenever people send in videos,

when they're like, I went on a investigation and they walk into the room and they're like, ghost, if you're here now show yourself. Like if you're asking for it, then they'll give it to you, baby. So with a Ouija board, like you are asking for it and they're gonna give it to you. So like-

Just like DMX. Yeah, yeah, ghost gonna give it to you. The problem with a Ouija board, Ouija board, is that you can't control what comes through. If you, again, preface, if you believe in this kind of thing. If you don't, you're probably not putting that much energy into it anyway. But you have no control over what comes through and any medium, any like I speak to dead people

person who tells you that they can control that is lying to you. So basically what you're doing with a Ouija board is just saying, hey, anything, anything that wants to come through, come through. We're welcome. We're well, you're welcomed here and if you don't properly close it which is you got to like break the bind and you have to say goodbye and then close the board it's very polite then then you're inviting it into your life so and again like it might be an intention thing it might be a manifestation thing but i choose not to test the spirits. Very interesting.

See, I experienced it. I thought it was more like a magic eight ball. I thought you just ask it questions and like shake it up. Yeah, that's what I did. I shook the board. You just shake it up like a bunch of ghosts. I shook the board and say, will I get, will I have sex tomorrow?

Pretty much. Who does Susie like? And then, you know. Who will I kiss? Will I kiss somebody ever? Ever? It just says potato. No with a heart. No. Says no, honey.

You've never, right, Tommy? No. So here's why. Regardless of belief or whatever, let's say it's a 0.001% chance using a Ouija board will curse me forever or unleash a demon. That is too much of a chance.

So I will never, ever, a Ouija board comes out and someone's like, I'm leaving the building. It's over. I have had a Ouija board in front of me for a sketch that I filmed once, but there was no circle. It was kind of a thing. And yet still, me and the producer person that I was working with, we keep giving the board back to each other because we're like, I think the only way to get rid of a board and yet still me and the producer person that i was working with we keep giving the board back to each other because we're like i think the only way to get rid of a board is to bury it is that correct yeah you're i mean you know yeah there's no yeah but either way we're

like i don't want to burn it because what if that pisses off the ghost the same thing with me in my picture with my painting i'm like i don't want to burn it because what if that's like yeah upsetting it so i'm just kind of like leaving it in my closet you have to like spirit you have to like spirit wand it. Like you have to pass it on. I'm not, I don't know anyone who wants the painting. Well, find an enemy. Can I give it to James Bond?

Do you think he'll take it? Yes. Do you believe in possession? Yes and no. I think that's definitely a, you gotta believe it to let it happen kind of thing. And I don't know about that. But apparently I believe in a succubus.

So. Well, at least it's happening to you. I know. Okay, so Ouija board. I mean, it's kind of like, just don't mess with it anyway. Cause either you believe it's bullshit or you believe it's real and it's dangerous. So maybe just don't buy one i love

that summary that's exactly it sounds like there's no upside to a ouija board so why even bother fun like they're just not fun yeah yeah you know so why just play spend the bottle kids yeah then you'll then you'll get to kiss someone ever that's the way to yeah to kiss someone ever exactly because that's all we ever want to know is like, will I be kissed? When am I going to kiss? When am I going to kiss? Please, ghost, when am I going to kiss? I don't know now, so we're in the age of Rona,

spin the bottle's pretty dangerous now. That's actually very true. Living on the edge. Living on the dance floor. Of glory to dance moms. Do you believe in dance moms? I wholeheartedly believe in dance moms. I'm possessed by dance moms.

Dude, if you could be possessed by Abby. Oh my God. Would you? I would be a powerhouse. That I would be unstoppable. I wish we could like get her for you, you know? Oh, I'm just now? Tommy's ultimate hero.

Now she's available. Tommy's ultimate hero is Abby from Dance Moms. And I know she's had a lot of issues and she's got some work to do so i know that she's had problems we love an anti-hero she's an anti-hero she's she's very evil but but i love you abby if you're watching this abby so this last question uh that we asked y'all is do you think cryptids exist so that's like like Bigfoot, Loch Ness, Duende. As you mentioned.

And don't peek. 45% of you said, what do you think? Do you think it was majority people not believing? Or believing? I think people don't believe in them. I'm gonna say majority does not believe. Well, 45% say yes. That's a higher than I thought.

39% say no. Okay. Oh, sure. And 15% said, what the fuck? That's an option I did give, yes. Yeah, that does make sense. I feel like cryptids are like the, they're silly. They're silly. It's like a cute baby version.

Yeah, it's like Loch Ness and stuff. Bigfoot. And you're like, oh, that's silly. Like, I don't know. I don't know. A couple of the videos that we get sent in for the show of the of bigfoot footage is terrifying like there's one of similar situation but in the daytime these four people are in a car and they're driving and you hear the kids in the

back start screaming and they turn the camera around and there's something grotesque because that's what it is it's uncanny it's grotesque that it almost looks like a person and there's something chasing after them and like runs up to the car it's very what like it's very real looking i should say i'm not the family but it runs out you check it out paranormal caught on camera every Sunday. And that Bigfoot laughed. Yeah. He had such a mark. So funny. Oh, I bet.

Yeah, he ran up, like get out style, like ran up to the car and then like hard turned into the forest. Oh, straight up get out. Straight up get out. Hairy get out.

Yeah. And like more like. Jeez. You know. Have you seen the video of that goat attacking the bicyclist? No. Is the goat like?

It's just like that. That's funny. Did the bicyclist choose to live deliciously? That's the, you are familiar? It's like Jack's links. Is that? It's from the witch, the VV witch. Oh, the vvitch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end, well, that's a spoiler, I guess, but it's been that long enough. It's a meme. But the goat's like, would you like to live deliciously? No, no, no, no, no. I don't remember that.

That's my number one fear. Of a goat being a demon? Of animals talking. Oh, yeah. So you don't like Dr. Doolittle? Eliza Thornberry's out. Not like that. I mean like Chaos Reigns,

like Antichrist or like this, where they, anything like Animamorphs, anything that- Anamorphs? Yes, I know. It's anything that is a personification of an animal, like something that giving it human-like qualities. That's my number one fear. Okay, I have a question.

What? Because I feel like you might have some kind of answer. So when I was in Iceland, they had these like sort of like earth houses. So it was like this like old sort of dwelling that was built into like this rock. And it was like abandoned. There wasn't really any like signage or anything.

We kind of like walked over there. And I don't think we, we weren't trespassing, but there was nobody else around there. At the entrance were some bones on the ground and they were like bones, like these little bones. And they were just kind of like placed at the entrance. And I was just like, oh, that's weird. And I just like walked in.

I just like walked in and it was all like wet and dark. You walked past the bones? Yeah. Where and dark you walked past the bones yeah where were the what in where how were the bones fashioned what was the shape i mean the shape of the bones they they seem like they're just kind of like placed there but they like like in a straight line in front of the door next to the door next to it so it wasn't a barrier it was just like a little pile like someone had some not like a pile but there was just some like scattered bones it seemed and it was actively wet inside of the place yeah because it's i mean but yeah that sounds like a ritual or an altar at least in certain beliefs well so so then i walked in and it was like really creepy and stuff there wasn't really anything to see in there but it was

like this really cool thing that was built into like this crack and this earth. So when we walk out and we kind of like walk up the hill and my friend's like walking in front of me, we're trying to get like another look at it. Cause it seemed like there's maybe like another way in or something. We walk up the hill and, and then I'm like walking up,

but I'm like looking at the ground. I'm like, Oh shit. And there was just a dead, like decomposing sheep. Yeah. Hi. Right there. Yes.

That is a ritual. Did it have all of its bones? I think so. Yeah. It was like. Did it look gutted or did it look like it was just dead? It looked like it just kind of like, it had like, I think it had a tag like for its like, cause it was, it seemed like maybe it got out of like a pen or something something but it looked like it just kind of like walked up the hill and just like

yeah i mean with with rituals and stuff like that like that sounds like to me that sounds like a ritual like that sounds what wasn't in any sort of like specific place you know it wasn't like it was just like clearing it was just dead it was just like up along the side of this like hill. But the bones is what like was super weird. And I was like, why would just some assorted bones be sitting here? But I guess, you know, animals die in places. And also there are certain things that like outside of the paranormal religiously, there are certain I can't tell you which one. But I know that if you put bones, it's like a signifier of like a death

protection basically you're using death against itself so they put it to protect themselves kind of like um passover how jews put the lamb's blood over their door so the angel of death would pass over their house kind of like that so very cute very cool when it comes to like ritual sacrifice of animals that's some bullshit like that that's the stuff that makes me mad personally from someone who was not there at all and have just heard the story one and a half times um doesn't sound like a ritual to me sounds like there was a little pile of bones yeah i think maybe there's just some icelandic dude he hit the kfc then he drove out to the countryside. Oh, they were that small? I don't remember how big they were.

It was just really creepy. My brain paints pictures where there is none. Like if there's a blank canvas, like I'll give you a satanic ritual, sure. Oh, yeah. Do you have a picture of it? Are you pulling out the bones? I don't think I took a picture of the bones.

Show me them bones. It was like a jaw, looks like a jaw bone. Okay, you're gonna sit here and tell me that's normal tommy so right now ian just showed tommy and rachel a picture that he took just some teeth it's like yeah it's like a lower jaw of like a sheep or something that's a ritual i'm just saying we're backtracking that's the vvitch sorry that's the vvitch i'm just saying that's the Vavitch. I'm just saying. That's a, that. Yeah, that's a witch's house. So, I mean, it's just like, imagine just like a really creepy looking, I mean, I thought it was really cool.

It's beautiful. These earth houses that are in Iceland are really, really cool. But this one was built into like this giant rock. And so it actually goes inside. How old was it? I don't know. into like this giant rock. And so it actually goes inside. How old was it? I don't know.

I mean, probably goes back to 1600s maybe. I'm not sure. Cause that's the thing about old dwellings like that is that they also believed in some sort of ritual. Like they didn't have science in the way that we have science. And so certain things they thought that they could like ritual away.

Like this ritual of putting bras on a fence post. Yes, that's the spookiest ritual. Before we finish, we have a shoot dude. Is this a spooky shoot dude? No, you know, there wasn't a spooky shoot. All shoot dudes are spooky in some regard, right? It's true. A spook dude.

It's true. All right, well then let's do the shoot dude shoot dude shoot dude shoot dude shoot dude shoot dude shoot dude shoot dude that was good thank. This one comes from Joseph. I was the type of kid who pulled all kinds of shenanigans growing up and bless my poor mother for having to deal with me. So we were at a Sam's Club shopping for whatever at that time, and I had seen a toy I really wanted. I think it was like a Mighty Morphins Power Ranger toy or something because that's what the kids do when they're shopping.

Kids be shopping. They want stuff they won't get, so I begged my mom and got the typical mom answer of no, you don't need that. But rotten me was not having that answer. So in the middle of a somewhat crowded Sam's Club, I shouted, help me, help me. Somebody's trying to steal me. And all eyes were on my mom at this point, who was just dumbfounded that I would even have the nerve to say something so stupid that's when store security came and took us back into the security area to try to sort all of this out several calls later police being involved and the mess getting cleared up

all the while my mom being embarrassed to the core of raising such a rotten child. I still didn't get the toy I wanted. Shoot, dude. Shoot, dude. Oh, Joseph. Yikes. Don't do anything. Kids. Help me, help me.

Somebody's trying to steal me all because you couldn't get a toy. But like, where did he get that idea? Was that like the mom being like, if someone ever steals you, you're gonna scream, I'm being stolen. Yeah. And so he's like, got someone ever steals you, you're gonna scream I'm being stolen. Yeah. And so he's like, got it.

This will get me the toy. That's some evil kid shit. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes kids do things that are like, that's exceptionally evil. Yeah, that's good. They don't know consequence. Damn.

He's still not allowed to go to the store. Yikes, dude. Did you guys ever pull anything like that when you were younger? God, no. No, I was a good little kid. One time I said the F word in front of my mom when I was a little kid

and I like immediately started freaking out cause I knew that that was not okay. I mean, I think because of the level of remorse that I showed instantly upon saying that word, I don't remember being punished for it, but I remember being very scared of being punished. Were you punished much as a kid? No.

I feel like there was always the threat of punishment. And I was a pretty good boy because I was a younger brother. So I usually let my sister kind of like figure out what was, what was the not good thing to do and then try to learn from that. One time I was making a scene at a Red Lobster and my parents said, if you keep making the scene, we're gonna go home.

And I was like, ugh. And I kept making the scene and they took me home. We only had biscuits. And I learned that moment. Are you sure your parents just didn't do that so they can get free biscuits? And then they put the blame on you? They're like, let's make them act real weird. We're so sorry. Get those free

biscuits. You're probably right. They just want some biscuits. They just wanted some biscuits. They just wanted some cheesy biscuits. Well, guys, that was the shoot, dude. Send us your shoot dudes at shootdude at smosh.com. That's S-H-O-O-T-D shoot dudes at shootdudeatsmosh.com.

That's S-H-O-O-T-D-O-O-D at smosh.com. And you might be seeing some shoot dude merch pretty soon. Oh my God, you dropped the bomb. We might be. Should I not drop the bomb? No, I think you can. You're the social expert. Yeah, you can drop it.

You're the market in person. Drop it up. I mean, I'm just going to drop a little hint. Shoot dude. Working on some shoot dude stuff. We have a lot in the pike. We have a lot coming up merch wise. You can mark it in person. Drop it up. I mean, I'm just going to drop a little hint. Shoot, dude. Working on some shoot. We have a lot in the pike. We have a lot coming up merch wise. You say in the pike?

Yeah, it's pike or pipe. Oh, interesting. I know. They don't know which one it is. We had to look it up during a meeting once. Did you really? That was it. Completely.

Yeah, the meeting completely stopped because we were like, pike? And then, yeah. Could be both. So anyway, there's merch in the store. Merch in the store. There is merch in the store. Wow. Thank you for just the spookiest, most, there's some, I'm worried.

I'm worried for both of you guys. Me too. Yeah. Not for your, not like that I don't believe your thing. I'm worried about you mentally. Tommy, I'm legitimately worried about. My little sucky. Your little sucky? my little sucky.

Your little sucky? My little sucky? Yeah, dude. Did it start happening after you brought that creepy animatronic horse home? No, no, no, no. That's good, I wouldn't want you to throw that out. Me neither, I love that, everyone loves it. Its ear fell off yesterday.

Oh no! Oh yay! It's hitting puberty. Just limbs keep falling off. That didn't happen to you guys? You just have a little hole on the side of your head? I'm like, oops. You grow a new one. Yeah.

Just like teeth. You know, honestly, I'm scared, too. I'm doing an investigation on the first. All right. Really? Yeah, of Queen Mary. They're shutting it down. Oh, Queen Mary.

For me and two other girls on the show, they're going to shut down the boat, and we're going to come do an investigation, and I am spooked, dude. Oh, yeah, Smosh Games did the Queen Mary thing a couple years ago, and they were positively spooked, and Mari chipped her tooth. Oh, no.

Where? Tooth, dude. I think she chipped her tooth there in Queen Mary. Oh, my God. They're running around being dumb I don't think I'm allowed to do that

you should try it I'm gonna have EVP ooh beep beep beep beep boop beep boop alright well I wish you the best of beeps and boops

on the Queen Mary thanks Ian and all your future endeavors I hope that creepy lady in your stairway goes away oh

Tommy thank you thank you guys so much this has been an illuminating I hope that creepy lady in your stairway goes away. Tommy. Thank you. Thank you guys so much. This has been an illuminating experience. And I hope you guys learn something or are spooked. Have a spooked-acular Halloween. Sucky