Smosh Mouth - S3 Ep3: #3 - Talking Friendships and Smosh Wiki w/ Ian Hecox

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

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Find your pro at your local Tread Experts. From tires to auto repair, we're always there. TreadExperts.ca Hi, welcome to the SmoshCcast. I'm Shane Topp. And I'm Amanda Leehan-Canto. Today's episode is all about nostalgia, classic stuff. We're going old school. We're so excited to invite our special guest, Ian Hecox. Wow, thank you all for having me. Hello, I am Ian Hecox of Smosh and Arctic Adventure on Frozen Pond.

Oh, no. Frog Kingdom 2. Oh, wow. I totally know what you guys are talking about. Also the hit animated movie Hedgehogs. Yeah. Ian has an impressive career. You've done everything.

And they're bringing that back, too. Another sequel of that movie is coming. And you get to do it. Anthony can't be a part of that. Yeah. You've done a lot, including buying back your company. I,

I did do that recently. Yeah. Wow. How do you feel? I feel, I feel, well today we announced it. Um,

and I was, uh, I think I was shaking. I was, I was definitely like, like, like in the morning, it was like 9 a.m. the video went out,

but I had to be on like another call already. So I was like on this call with like lawyers about other stuff. And like, but I was also like reading the comments as they were coming in and my hands were like shaking. I was just like, this is crazy. This is crazy. So I haven't like, I haven't had that many moments to like, to just like look at this stuff because we like today's just like back to the other things.

So I've been kind of like offhandedly like reading some stuff and like I looked at the reddit and and i looked at uh at the youtube and i looked at uh some stuff on twitter and instagram and it's just kind of like like we're trending on twitter and like it's a lot that's going on right now i feel like you probably won't process until like 3 a.m you're in bed like who what yeah it's gotta be a total overload yeah yeah it's it's crazy just like all these people like coming out of the woodwork being like oh like smosh like they're the first like channel that i watched and like yeah like yeah it's it's it's crazy it's crazy to see this yeah so as of recording this today is the announcement day. So by the time this airs, it's been a couple weeks. But it's been nuts.

And, yeah, I can't imagine how many people are probably getting hit up by random cousins who are suddenly just like, Yeah, we're related, man. Did you know? Hey, we should hang out. If you need a business manager, I'm your guy. Yeah, exactly. Because you've always been a celeb. But now you're like a born-again celeb.

Does that make sense? That's what you are. You're a born-again Christian. Well, it's just a sudden surge. You're a born-again Christian celebrity. I'm a born-again celebrity. Ian, you're Christian again? Yeah.

You know, Anthony and I decided to come back to Smosh with Jesus in our hearts. Okay. It actually would have been so funny if you did that, if the whole theme was super religious. Yeah, you didn't see my bio it says Corinthians thank God for God

11-12 I don't know if I can handle that I'd be so sick all those old sons would be like what the fuck happened God found us that's what happened Anthony we found God that would be a pretty funny turn. It would be very good.

Just only Christian sketches, but super clean. G-rated. I mean, that was Studio C. Studio C is a sketch comedy channel, and they're funded by the Church of Latter-day Saints. Oh, okay. We'll try to collab with them. Or BYU.

Yeah, we'll try to get them as sponsors. Yeah, we're gonna collab. They're pretty funny. They had a couple funny sketches. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I can't wait to see them. There's a sketch where somebody gets hit in the head a lot

with a volleyball. Oh, wait. I know that one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That one's actually genuinely very funny. Made by Mormons. You've probably seen it. Well, Mormons also made Napoleon Dynamite, so. What? yeah, yeah. That one's actually genuinely very funny. Made by Mormons. You've probably seen it.

Well, Mormons also made Napoleon Dynamite, so. Well, they didn't make it. The guy that directed it was Mormon. I love Napoleon Dynamite. And they shot it in Utah, so I think a lot of the extras and actors are probably Mormon as well. Yeah, so it's entirely Mormon. Yeah, yeah. Great.

I can't wait to see the volleyball sketch. It's really funny. Ian. Yeah. I was going to go. Here's how it. Ian. Yeah. I was gonna go to the Mormon episode. Back to me. Back to talking about me.

No, this is all about you, actually. Like, we're really interested about going back. Yeah. I wanna talk to you about two things. One, and I think first,

we've talked a little bit about our reactions and how we found out, how you told us. I'm curious how this process started from your perspective. Also, like, obviously getting back to business, but just you and Anthony kind of becoming friends like you were back in the day. When did that start? Because Anthony left back in, like, 2017.

Yeah. I've seen him a couple times since. Super nice guy. We've been cool. But when did you guys start hanging out again? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we probably started hanging out in earnest sometime last year.

Maybe like nine months ago or something like that. Oh, I'll birth the baby. Yeah. Yeah, a little smushed baby. That's how long it takes to make a little baby. Yeah. Okay. And yeah, I think prior to that,

we would like occasionally like reach out to each other. But essentially like our friendship, as one would define a friendship, was not really, we weren't really friends anymore. Sure. It wasn't out of spite or anything like that. It was literally just like,

you know, we don't have a lot in common anymore. And I think that we started this whole Smosh thing as childhood friends, and we witnessed a friendship turn into a business partnership. And at some point, managing the business relationship became more important than managing our interpersonal relationship. That's so true. I feel like even when I see married couples go into business with each other, I'm like, is it good?

Yeah, it's a scary thing. It was also a behemoth of a thing. It's not just some random business. It was a huge deal. You probably had a bunch of people pulling at you, trying to define who you guys should be and stuff. Sure.

And I mean, a lot of it was also, a lot of the was also like you know a lot of a lot of the brand was like ian and anthony as like best friends so it's like we couldn't like go like it would be weird to like tell people exactly like where we were in our friendship and we didn't really know where we were in our friendship like towards the end of like anthony at Smosh. But it was like off. Right. And so, yeah, we kind of stopped like we stopped hanging out like after he left. And before he left, like it was still like we would hang out occasionally, but it just like never felt right.

And so we kind of let that friendship die. And this is something that we talked about, I think, on his interview. I haven't watched it yet because it's not out yet. It comes out in like an hour. But I went on Anthony's I Spent a Day with series. But we kind of talked about this thing. We had to like let that friendship die in order for like this friendship to happen. Like we had to just completely like let go of of of what we had and you know kind of just uh resign ourselves to

thinking you know might not ever be like good friends again um and yeah when we reconnected it was kind of like it's kind of like oh actually like we we still have a lot of the same interests and and i think what really changed was our ability to communicate with each other oh it's like we're adults yeah i'm into that we i think we both did i think we both did a lot of um self-work um and so you know prior to us, prior to Anthony leaving Smosh, we did not communicate well. Like we like a lot. It was like a lot of like we were trying to preserve what was going on at the company. So we didn't want to rock the boat. So we never had like difficult conversations. conversations and now like i think because of the work that we've that we've done now we can like

have like open and honest conversations like about something and and i think that's like totally changed the game in terms of like our communication and and we were able to like forge a new kind of friendship that's way stronger than the friendship that we had before. See, this is why I love this story so much, because it's not only just like a story that I get to witness as a viewer, but it is your actual life, Ian. Like, like this is your, you know, high school friend. You guys started a huge business together and life happened. You both grew and now like you're coming together in such an amazing way. It's so fucking cool. Yeah, it's really cool,

and I think this stuff happens to a lot of people, right? If you think about it, you guys are childhood high school friends. Almost everyone I know has high school friends that were like, you guys were so close, but as you get older, you become different people. That happens, and weird stuff, but it's so interesting that you become different people that happens and uh weird stuff but it's it's so interesting that you guys have found your way back and you guys have grown into you guys are

the same people but you've grown into like newer better versions of yourselves that are suddenly best friends again i think that's really sick um it's been fascinating to to think about with all this that i've seen anthony like a handful of times over the years, but we have seen you for these past few years here at Smosh and seen like you grow and seen you like, I think like, look, you've always been hilarious, but like to see you become funnier in so many ways and like, I don't know, it's cool to see

and to see that old school dynamic, but with so many newer and like, I don't know, it's cool to see and to see that old school dynamic but with so many newer components is really fun. Do I seem less depressed than I did when we came back? I've pointed this out before. I've never liked that. It's a bit. People think that you're depressed and oh downer. I'm like, that is not Ian.

It's not depressed. No. It's the bummer thing because you make jokes about bummer things. Like, on Try Not to Laugh, you'd make challenger jokes on Try Not to Laugh and stuff. So it was the bummer thing. And I think people started to attribute saying your personality as a whole as a bummer, which is not true. Not true at all. You just like dark topics. So do I. But I do it with a smile. Maybe that's the difference. Yeah. whole is a bummer which is not true not true at all you just like dark dark topics so do i but i

do it with a smile maybe that's the difference yeah you deliver it with too much of a straight face but no in person you're honestly a very chill chill dude you actually are usually i'd say in a pretty good mood oh i think so it's just you're just a chill guy. Yeah. Well, I just remember when we came back after the Mythical deal and I was now taking this position of president and stuff, I think it was pretty hard for me. And I didn't really have any chance to, going from the Defy shutdown to working with Rhett and Link to save this thing, I didn't have any chance to take a break of any kind.

Oh, yeah, dude. And then now I was kind of in this position that I didn't originally plan on. And I just remember there was several people that would come up to me and be at like the office and be like hey are you okay really yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean that i think that i think that first year was was pretty was pretty rough for me like coming back then and like i i mean like i really wanted it to like work and and things and things were things were going well and everything but it was just like yeah it was just i mean ever since anthony ever since anthony left it was always like i i was always trying to make the effort of like what is what is the identity of of smosh

with with anthony gone and i wanted to, you know, the whole kind of like, I don't like to use this word anymore, but family of people on camera and the people behind camera. And I wanted to like redefine what Smosh was and highlight everybody. But it was still like you know the the sort of like foundation of of smosh was was always like you know you and anthony yeah yeah so friendship yeah so i feel like i feel like what you i feel like that's so hard for a person to go through not only like a friendship ending but like the business relationship also ending and i feel like no wonder you were going through a tough time like you had to hold up like you were a single mom for a while yeah people call me a single dad yeah you were the reba of smosh yeah i was the reba you were

technically working multiple jobs here uh it's that's very much that's very much you. Yeah, I am the Reba. Are you happier now? Yeah, definitely. I mean, we've been trying to figure out what the voice is for the main channel for years now. We would keep trying these different things. And it was tough, because I do think that we did have a lot of really fun, creative videos and ideas on the main channel. But that channel was built largely with an audience of people that watched the Ian Anthony videos. So you're not going to convince people overnight

to just accept totally different content. Would I take back any of the stuff that we did? No. I'm glad we did the stuff we did. I'm glad that Anthony left Smosh and you can take that sound bite.

No. Ian's happy. Whoa! YouTube's happy. Whoa, you do Hollywood Story. Yeah. But it really does feel like this all had to happen the way it happened in order for us to be here today. Absolutely. So I am, yeah, I'm so happy with how things turned out.

Yeah. So cool. I think you both, it's impressive for both of you. And I think both of you deserve props because Anthony, it was probably such a tough decision of recognizing that he wasn't happy at a place, despite it being, like, his lifelong, like, project. And I know he loved Smosh even when he left it, but he recognized he had to go. And then he found success on his own, which is so cool.

And then props to you for taking it on and leading it for all these years and showing that even just one of you can run a successful Smosh, but now you're back together. So cool. Success on your own was probably nice to find that identity on your own. And now get to come back and have that freedom and that independence yeah and choose to be friends and choose to be business partners as opposed to when you like fell into it and like from the beginning probably felt kind of like oh well this is just what we're stuck with this is how we have to be basically yeah yeah i didn't think about that way that this is this is definitely a choice yeah yeah that's so sick.

Yeah. So now I kind of want to throw it back. Let's go back. Look, we can come back, whatever. Throw it back. So you guys are reconnecting now. I want to kind of go back to, like, 2005. Great.

Let's do it. Ooh. Just to get, like. Nostalgic. Nostalgic, but also a scope of just how long this whole thing has been going. Because I know we say, like, old school Smosh, and Smosh has been around forever. To actually comprehend that it's nearly, or it is over 20 years old. 22.

So the YouTube channel. But I think I always forget that this started as a website. That you guys started years before you started making YouTube videos. Anthony created it, yeah. So Anthony made this thing. Do you know when you guys actually started saying Smosh? Like when Smosh became like a thing you guys were saying? Yeah, I think that was freshman year of high school.

So that would have been 2001. Insane. What is it like to be in high school and start this thing with your best friend? How did people perceive you in high school? Oh, I mean like. Freshmen in high school, what would you guys. I mean, we were like losers. You were losers.

Like actual losers or. Or like L losers. You just weren't popular. Yeah, we weren't popular. Like we had a friend group. So we weren't like. We weren't like. Not to say like if you don't have like a group of friends, you're a loser. I'm not saying that. But I would say that like we weren't like, not to say if you don't have a group of friends, you're a loser.

I'm not saying that. But I would say that we weren't cool. Sure. I believe that. I was in cross country. Okay. Oh, cross country. That's sick.

Those are the coolest guys. For some schools, apparently cross country can be cool. No. Not ours. Not ours. It was very uncool. Football players would run out and just tackle you mid run

you were both cross country runners? just you Anthony didn't do sports what did Anthony do? make websites? yeah he made websites he's like self taught on a lot of like coding and graphic design

do you know what code he used for Smosh.com? PHP, maybe? Oh, God, the runner just has no idea. The frigging runner. Doesn't know how a website works. You guys weren't cool, like K-E-W-L, cool. So did you care? Was that like a big deal that you weren't cool?

Or was making Smosh, deal that you weren't cool? Or was making Smosh did that make you feel cool? I guess when it was just a website no one knew about it. Yeah, nobody like Anthony created in 2002 as sort of like a forum for like us to all talk on.

It was like your own form of social media back then. Yeah, like imagine almost like a Discord. Right, it's pretty cool. Yeah, like imagine almost like a Discord. Right. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. So it was just for you and your group. Yeah, and then he expanded.

So there's this website called New Grounds, which is like a place where people posted these animations. It's called no longer Flash Animation. Doesn't exist as like Flash anymore, I think. I don't really know. Yeah, I think they got rid of it. Amanda, you wouldn't understand this. This was for cool dudes.

What are we talking about? So imagine YouTube, but it's mostly videos of animated stick figures killing each other. Yeah. Oh! It was a pre-YouTube place for videos. And it was the first place where like where there was like user generated content so uh anthony created oh kind of like a ripoff of new grounds which is you could upload flash animations to our website so we started with people that were like at our school

that were using our website and then it like grew to being like some people that would upload on new grounds and they'd also come to our website and upload there to get another audience. Did you voice over the – can you voice the stick figures? Yeah. Is that what you guys did? You can, yeah. That's pretty cool. So maybe the earliest Smosh videos weren't on YouTube.

They were those flash animations and stuff. Yeah, Anthony made some. Okay. So how many users did you have in like 2002? Do you know? Was it hundreds of people by that point? In 2002? Are you going to tell me?

Do you have? I don't actually know. According to our data. I will say I've been doing a bunch of research and I knew that in 2001 the name was registered. So I know that you guys were making this early on, which is insane. Yeah. So I know that you guys were making this early on, which is insane. Yeah. But I'm just curious.

I was curious if you knew like, oh, if this was just like a dozen of us or if it was like, no, the whole school knew about Smosh.com. I think Smosh.com probably started getting people in like 2003. Oh, we also had like a couple like weird, like, like videos that we uploaded there. That was like some people from our school made like jackass style videos. Like there was one where they like lit a tennis ball on fire and we're, and we're playing tennis with it. It was called fire tennis. There's another one where this one guy we knew was riding in a car.

We had this street, and there was a super steep grassy hill next to it. And so he was riding on the car, then jumped off the car and rolled down the hill. We had another one that was called a- Was he okay? Probably. Probably not. People died for Smosh exactly um uh we had this other one that was actually great and i think kind of became a little bit viral uh that was

this microwave furby video oh it was a furby in a microwave and i was like and then all of a sudden it just like this lightning bolt and wait that's a good horror that's a good horror movie plot. Like, and then it comes out. You said that one went kind of viral? It went kind of viral, yeah. Maybe. So would you say that you were kind of beginning to be famous in high school?

No. You're like sophomores at this point. Smosh.com's a thing. We were like juniors, probably seniors. We sold our first shirts to fund the website, like the hosting fees in 2005 in our senior year. So people at our school bought these shirts. How many people bought shirts?

I would say maybe like, we might have sold maybe like 50. Holy shit. That's a lot. Yeah, so Smosh was kind of like, oh, there's people that know about it. And this is before the Pokemon video. Yes, yeah, yeah. So at your high school, Smosh became a household name.

Actually, yeah, because in the yearbook, we posed this photo of a gathering of Smosh people. And there was like 30 of us. Do you have that photo? Yeah, probably. It's like in a yearbook that's a big deal getting getting like featured in the yearbook i remember being a very big deal so smosh was big enough to be featured in the yearbook that's yeah yeah yeah like 50 people were wearing you're walking around like a freaking cult at your high school yeah what are those high school people thinking now have they reached out i have the

furby video let's watch it what oh that's it that's it can can we show that on here wait that's kind of brilliant no it's I mean it's somebody re-uploaded it that feels like a Vine before Vine technically that's a Smosh video yeah somebody

somebody that was on our website like sent us that video and we I shit you not I feel like I watched that video back in the day or maybe other people

microwaved maybe I don't know holy shit okay wow so alright I feel like I watched that video back in the day. Or maybe other people microwaved. Maybe. I don't know. Holy shit. Okay. Wow. So, right. So, senior year.

Smosh is already known. It's already a big deal. But then YouTube starts. Which one of you was like, hey, let's make a YouTube video? We actually started making videos before YouTube. Before we knew YouTube was a thing. So you just had compiled videos. Were those re-uploads?

Did you already make those videos? Holy shit. Yeah. Well, at that time, we had just made, I think, the Power Rangers theme song and maybe the Mortal Kombat theme song. But we hosted it on Anthony's website website so we were paying the hosting fees and anthony um figured because so so we had a myspace right we made like a smosh myspace and we had like i don't know maybe like a couple hundred people following us on myspace um anthony he was you know he's he knew some

coding so he figured out a way to like embed video from smosh onto like your myspace page oh wow he's a tech wizard yeah yeah yeah so he uh so yeah we first did the power rangers theme song then we did mortal kombat theme song and then somebody took did the Power Rangers theme song. Then we did Mortal Kombat theme song. And then somebody took the Mortal Kombat theme song and uploaded it on YouTube. Somebody was like, hey, somebody took your video and they put it on this website, YouTube. We're like, what's that?

Went there, found out about YouTube. What's that stupid place that I'll never have a career at? Yeah. And so we realized, oh like if we upload it here, we don't have to pay hosting fees. Like we don't have to pay for whenever somebody watches this video. This is great.

So we upload it on there. Anthony figured out this way to like code like a video embed so that like it would post the YouTube video like on your MySpace page and then would have a link below that says like click this link or copy this link and add it to your myspace page so it's like easy for people to share

videos they could add it to their own myspace page so when people go to their myspace your videos there yeah that's sick so okay so wait the first video you upload on smosh.com or onto wait what was the first video like the first video we made was the Power Rangers Power Rangers theme song technically

what was the first one you uploaded onto YouTube I mean it would have been Mortal Kombat like we re-uploaded it we asked the guy to take it down he did that

and then we asked people we asked our MySpace people to vote on the Mortal Kombat theme song to be on the front page of YouTube, because that was the only way of discoverability. And back then, you could vote for a video to be put on the front page.

What? That hit the front page, got us a little bit of an audience. And then we asked people on MySpace. We had a poll running. We're like, what theme song do you want us to do next and we had like captain planet and teenage mutant ninja turtles and the pokemon theme song and the pokemon theme song was like overwhelmingly voted for so we made that uploaded it asked people to vote for that video to get on the front page it got on the front page and then like right at that time, YouTube

got a bunch of press for being this new thing. People are watching videos. They're viral videos. And it was just right place, right time. And then shortly after that, the Pokemon theme song became the most viewed video of all time on YouTube for a year and a half and then it was removed for copyright infringement.

Which like nowadays, I don't think that, I think that it's like fair use. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But yeah. So like who, how did you guys know how to do this? Was this just like trial and error

or was Anthony like really coding or both of you guys were just like, oh, yeah, we figured it this out. Were you coding at all? Or is that fully just an Anthony thing? That's an Anthony thing. He was always a lot more into the technical side of things. And whenever there was a problem that needed to be solved, like, oh, we want to add an explosion.

Oh, it would be cool if there was an explosion here. Then he'd go, OK, I'll figure out how i can do that i love that i find that to be so useful also really hard i don't think that's me yeah it's it's not me so like that's that was always like a really great like quality of anthony is like he's very like driven and like when he likes when he like sets his mind to something he like gets it done. So it's like in those early days, like making YouTube videos, he's like, we're like, OK. I think we started editing on Windows Movie Maker. And that was ass.

And so he pirated a copy of. Fuck yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, look. You're going to get arrested. Smosh was made illegal. Editing software was very expensive

and we were making zero dollars. So we later on did pay for editing software once we started making money. When did you make money?

Well, we were probably the first YouTube channel to sell merch. Right. So we... That merch you sold to your fellow

high schoolers. Yeah started did that cost money what how much was just giving t-shirts out for free were you not you weren't giving out t-shirts for free no we made people pay for them that's i love that the the people who were like the quote-unquote losers were like all right buy our t-shirt people like okay yeah i don't think you were as uncool as yeah exactly people are buying your t-shirt. People are like, okay. Yeah, I don't think you were as uncool as you think you are. Yeah, exactly. People are buying your t-shirts. I mean, you know, whatever. Okay. But yeah, I beat some nerds up, okay?

Okay. So, okay. You are a nerd. Pokemon goes viral. Me too. Pokemon goes viral. Does shit change from there? Or like...

Yeah, I would say so. what was that experience because going viral was not as common back then nowadays it's like everyone i feel like a lot of people experience it and it's a it's a known thing of like oh you could go viral back in 2005 or 2006 right you like you i don't even think that term was used. It was because before YouTube, there were still torrenting websites. So like Numa Numa. Yeah, I guess I'm a Numa guy. Numa Numa, Star Wars Kid, those videos.

Star Wars Kid is the best. Those videos went viral through torrenting websites. I remember watching, I watched Star Wars Kid on E-Bombs World. Dude, and like all the remixes of those. Amanda, have you seen? I don't think I've seen Star Wars Kid watched Star Wars Kid on E-Bombs World. Dude, and like all the remixes of those. I don't think I've seen Star Wars Kid. Star Wars Kid, see that's going viral in the worst way. Yeah.

He, the news, the morning news announcements at this high school, they had like a whole film lab, whatever. And so he recorded himself with like a pole doing a bunch of like Star Wars moves and like it was like a bow staff and he thought he was so sick he's so into it it's so passionate

okay and then it he probably forgot to delete the footage and then another high schooler must have found it and uploaded it onto the internet

so it's like four minutes of him oh just being like just spinning a pole around. And they remixed it. And they turned it into lightsabers. They turned it into a Matrix trailer.

There was a great one where it was him fighting himself. It's so great. It's insane. Is that The Chosen? But it's a very Chosen. No, The Chosen. Totally, yeah. Chosen is very much of that time.

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for being simply too awesome. I think by this point, people have probably forgotten. Because you talk to anyone under, like, 25, they don't know what Star Wars kid is. That's crazy. I feel like Gen Z nowadays would do that, and people would be like, that's so cool and unique. Oh, Star Wars kid would be awesome nowadays.

Yeah, but back then when we were in high school, being unique and out of colorful was just like, oh my god, you're a loser. Oh yeah, for sure. We loved the loser term. You're a loser. Oh, yeah, for sure. We loved the loser term. You're so lame. Although I feel like nerds started becoming cool right as I was about to leave high school.

This guy that I was friends with, who was a total nerd, won Homecoming King. So it definitely felt like there was like, all of a sudden there was this turn of like, the jocks and the cheerleaders are not the cool people anymore. Yes, there was a shift. I think there was a shift

where nerds became cool. I think early YouTube you see that. Like it's a bunch of weirdos. Maybe that's why. Maybe it's YouTube. I think just, yeah, maybe. But I thought it was fascinating that early YouTube,

it wasn't like your typical super cool people. No, it was all weirdos. It was a bunch of goofballs. And that's probably why. You and Anthony probably were the coolest. The most handsome YouTubers of that era, to be completely honest with you, man. You guys were the most handsome YouTubers.

Point out a different YouTuber who was more handsome than you and Anthony in early YouTube. Put it in the comments. Dan and Phil did come in a little bit later. Yeah, a little bit later. Rhett and Link were a little bit later. Just a little bit later. Rhett and Link were what year?

They were 2006, I think. That's insane. Yeah, man. Old school shit. You know they used to make music? You know they were musicians first? No? Everyone starts music-wise.

Wait, is that because Link DJs? Well, no. They played like real music. In a band together or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They played music. What did they play? Red has a band.

Like acoustic guitar and stuff. Red has a band? Well, yeah. yeah. They play music. What do they play? Red has a band. Like acoustic guitar and stuff. Red has a band? Well, yeah, Red has like a solo career now, but they got started by doing like musical, like comedy songs. Yeah. The Pokemon theme song goes viral. Are you still in high school when that happens?

No. You're out of high school. Yeah. Damn, you don't get to experience being the coolest people at high school when that shit blows up. No, no no because instead i went to a community college and and people are like what is this oh nobody gave a shit well you weren't walking around like playing it on your phone being like or i guess you didn't have no you couldn't have it on your phone but i mean like the the people

like it was really funny because like the people in my my... So I continued to do cross-country when I went to community college, where I definitely got completely outclassed. Going from high school to college cross-country is just insane. Anyway, it was funny because they were kind of seeing me upload these videos, and so they kind of saw seeing me upload these videos. And so like they kind of saw like the change in like popularity. And they're like, dude, this is so fucking weird. But like nobody else, like, you know,

you're going to, this was a commuter college. You know, it's not like you're staying in dorms or anything like. Oh, you're living at home? Yep. Yeah, living at home. And you're not making any money. You made zero dollars off of the Pokemon theme song video.

Yeah, $0, yeah. That's insane to think about. So wait, how long when you started Smosh did you make money? Like, how long? Probably, well, we solicited some donations to get a camera. So towards the beginning, we were like... But you're not living off of Smosh. No, no, no. This is not a job. This is not a career yet.

No, no, no. I was working at Chuck E. Cheese. Anthony was doing freelance web design. Chuck E. Cheese. You were actively working at Chuck E. Cheese when those first videos started. Yeah, yeah. Were you there if kids were shitty? Do you fucking know who I am?

Yeah. No way. I strangled them in the ball pit. They were never seen ever again. Tell me if I'm wrong. I see Ian, you, as being very humble, probably not talking about uploading all your stuff.

Yeah, no, I didn't. You didn't tell anyone. So you're there wearing a mask being like, they don't know who I am. They don't know. I hide my identity. Oh, were you the mouse? Were you dressed? Yeah, I was Chucky.

Oh, are you lying? I'm not lying. See, that's when he was really a celebrity. Yeah. That's the biggest celebrity. Kids love you more. That was the start of my entertainment career. Oh, my god.

Is there anything you learned at Chuck E. Cheese that you think has transferred over into your career? Do you think you learned anything by being a mouse? Yeah, actually don't have kids. Oh my God. You did commit to that. Yeah. Way to go. On my way.

No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Yeah. So you were working two jobs. A single mom working two jobs. I told you. Back to Reba. Ian is a single mom.

Yeah, man. Ian is a single mom. Was a Chucky entertainer. Very humble. Super humble. But just like an up and coming artist about to be famous. Yeah. I love that.

The classic LA story. So you were making videos for a while where you weren't making any money. So you guys were just purely doing it for fun? Or were you guys committing to it in the hopes of it becoming something else? Or was it just really like, hey, we're just going to. I mean, we pretty quickly committed to it. I mean, when we saw the Pokemon theme song get big. Right. And we were starting to build an audience,

it was like, oh, they want more. We should make more and maybe make some original comedy. So we started making little sketches and stuff. And that was the thing. Early YouTube was all vlogging, talking in front of a camera or sketch comedy. Those are, like, the first two. And lip syncing.

Those were, like, the first, like, three things that were on YouTube. And cat videos, I guess. But that's permanent. Lip syncing. Wait, how do they do lip syncing if they had copyright issues? Or that didn't come into later because copyright copyright didn't really become like a huge issue until people started uploading uh south park and daily show clips to youtube and then that's when like all the companies were like hold up what is this oh and then you know viacom tried to sue youtube for like two billion. Did Viacom win? No. Okay. They lost. But it did like start the whole kind of like claiming process on YouTube and

like DMCA and that kind of stuff. Wow. Yeah. That's insane. So that is insane. We're teenage years, but I didn't start. Yeah.

We didn't start making dynamic. Yeah. We didn't start making money until, yeah, we started selling some shirts we had some donations that allowed us to buy a camera and start shooting outside of anthony's bedroom and then we made uh this deal with this like youtube competitor to upload early on their website and we got like a a monthly like payment for that so you're living at home you're going to community college is

anthony also living at home and going to community yes what were your i know your mom started jumping into your videos yeah were both of your parents on board or were they or were they like why are you wasting your time no they were supportive i'm telling you if you were born in massachusetts it would be totally different my parents would be super confused mine they'd be like this is fun but get back to like no yeah it was it was it was great like my my dad who's an accountant helped us set up the the llc and like make sure that we were like set on like tax taxes and tax work and that kind of stuff. Like, I mean, you know, you want to talk like, you know, privilege. I mean, that's, I mean, like I,

we, we did have like a leg up in certain ways that, you know, my dad was an accountant. He helped us like get straight on that right in the beginning. You had supported, he had a client that was an entertainment lawyer. So he, you know, obviously we paid him but uh he you know negotiated a lot of our first contracts and stuff you know a lot of people in the early days got taken advantage of oh pretty heavily i'm sure um and fortunately like we had we had representation and and you know we we had our ducks in the row even in sync got taken advantage of you guys remember that story yeah man you guys are just like insane. You guys are just like NSYNC. Yeah, you guys are just like NSYNC.

We're pretty much just like NSYNC. Literally. Oh, wow. They already updated the photo. Look at that. Holy crap. Obviously, I've been doing a lot of research. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And something I wanted to do today is to look into the Smosh wiki, which I don't think really has been too aggressively edited or updated for years. But I did notice I pulled up the Smosh page for just the channel as a whole. They've already uploaded the new photo. Yeah, I see that. Now, however, reading it, it's like Smosh is a YouTube channel led by Ian Hecox.

So already that has to be changed, man. The Spain Smosh page, they kind of cover the history of it. It doesn't seem history. Ian and Anthony are best friends who had regularly made videos together ever since high school, which they uploaded on YouTube and the website Smosh.com. At first, Smosh only consisted of half the pair. Anthony used to make Flash games and movies on Newgrounds.com under the name Smosh. The name Smosh originated when one of Anthony's friends was talking about a mosh pit he had

joined, and Anthony misheard him as saying Smosh pit instead, which is kind of funny that we then ended up changing the second channel to Smosh Pit later on. Yeah, just... Was that on purpose? No. What? Smosh Pit?

Like, Smosh Pit is just like a... Well, Smosh Pit was... We called the website, like, the picture dump kind of content. That was the Smosh Pit at first. Okay. And the second channel was originally Enh it was originally my personal channel and we had started uploading this this series on there called Ian is bored where I just Makes silly stupid videos. So that's why fans are just like having all these things about you because I'm literally reading this Fandom about you about like Ian was often portrayed as dim-witted ignorant lazy irritable

conceited he was a fucking loser i mean i mean that's that's like my that's who i am in sketches yeah i know it's not that's not who i really am amanda i you know this. You know this Amanda. I guess I'm still learning. But yeah and then we wanted to rename the second channel obviously. We didn't want to call it Smosh 2. Because it's dumb. The Smosh Pit was already a thing

and we wanted to bring more attention to the Smosh Pit website. And so we called it Smosh Pit. I love it. It's pretty cool. It's very cool. I'm happy to be a part of it. This seems to be pretty accurate.

So yeah, their rise to fame started in the fall of 2005 during YouTube's early days. The videos they made then were extremely different to their videos now. But I think that's about to change. I think we're getting some old school stuff back. The classic style is returning. Not 2005 Smosh, but like 2011 to 2014 Smosh, I would say. Ooh, I'm excited.

Just on the main channel. We even have a bikini girl. Oh God. Girl one, girl two, hot girl, bikini girl. Bikini girl. Literally in the script. I'm so sorry. I swear that I respect women.

We're off to a good start here. Which is true. But I did write into the script. It is on there. She is credited as bikini girl. Oh my god. I'm getting triggered to my first casting things. It was like

big breasted woman no no shut the fuck up no i'm not fucking what are you talking about not from you from my own casting oh no not from when i started i thought you were saying like i thought you're saying that you got casted as a big breasted woman i was like jesus christ there's no fucking no just boss an executive. Okay, okay, okay. No, no, no, in my casting, my actual, not Smosh. You got an audition? Oh, when I was, yeah, when I first moved here, it was like hot woman, big-breasted woman, mom?

Mom. And I was 25 when I moved here. So I was like, okay. Well, that's like porn. It's like if you're 25, you're a mom now. Yeah, exactly. Honey, what are you doing in the kitchen? There's nothing more humbling than getting breakdowns

for characters for auditions. Like, you move out here and you're like, I'm going to do this. I'm so excited. You get auditioned. It's like stoner one. And you're like, fuck, is that who I am? Ugly guy five.

Stupid idiot. Or homely girl. Yes. Homely girl homely girl better for radio girl like girl you do not want to see disgusting piece of shit yeah uh i'm amanda i'm reading for disgusting piece of shit piece of shit okay and that's all we need from you thank you very much six five i don't think we need to hear the read i think you've got it. Great. So on this, there's a million series that have been on Smosh

over the years. Okay. So a bunch of these new and old, they've got it updated. So it's crazy to see just how much. I see GDFNs on there.

Yeah, dude, they've got everything. So couples therapy, we start date July 6, 2022, end date July 27, 2022. Dead table talks. Every blank ever lasted for seven years. Food battle, which they say status ended.

I don't know. I don't know now. I don't think I was ever in food battle. No, food battle ended in 2016, which was less than a year after I started. It ended about a year after I started. And I didn't join until, I don't remember. We're going to go to your wiki in a second. Oh, right, yeah.

Well, I will point out Food Battle at the end, if you watch past the credit or whatever, there is a question mark. Yeah, man. It says the end, and then a question mark yeah man this is the end and then a question mark appears and somebody a hand comes in and takes the donut and you leave it open ended but then Anthony left

within a year I think it's probably ended but now who friggin knows yeah they've got all of them right here man a lot of good shit. I also have your family tree on your fandom, and it says that your great-great-great-grandfather

was Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, this was a... And Charles K. Anthony. Okay. So this is from one of the epic April Fool's pranks that we used to pull back in the day. So great. In this one, we made a video that I had an identical twin.

Oh. So this was like the Smosh.com exclusive piece that showed my family tree, which is... All died in rollercoaster accident. All six of these died in rollercoaster accident. Yeah, and then there's another woman artificially inseminated with octuples, and we just used the same stock photo guy.

They kind of look like Anthony. It does look a little bit like Anthony. It does, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, God. So my favorite thing with the Smosh Wiki. Oh, you're not blonde again, Dave. Yeah, there's like a hillbilly joke in there because there's like an incest joke.

These people are here. See, they're all linked together. All named Zeke. That's very weird. Sorry. We're focusing too much on one stupid joke. Sorry. My favorite thing about the Smosh Wiki

is there's a trivia section. And I'm curious how much of this is still accurate. Oh, OK. So I'm going to pull it up for you first, Ian, and then Amanda. I actually, I'll check yours. You do have a wiki page, and I'm curious how good the info is.

I have a wiki feet page. I have a wiki page. I have... Wiki feet will be a different episode. Do you have a wiki feet for your fake feet? No, wait. I haven't looked yet. I should look.

Okay. Okay. Ian's favorite Pokemon is Ditto. It's probably a video. Yeah, it's revealed in Ditto, the movie trailer. Okay, yeah, sure, sure, sure. In most male time with Smosh, Ian kills himself. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it wasn't the S word. It was like there would always be something in the mail that would kill us oh you would actually just get murdered yeah yeah yeah we'd be like I know like one of them was like oh we got like

anthrax or something so we would just have like random things be like oh what's this and then die and that was like how we would end most of the mail time with smosh episodes is like something would kill us we wouldn't we wouldn't k ourselves which is that sounds so bad because mail time with smosh sounds like a nickelodeon like spin-off mail time with smosh yeah but we stopped we stopped doing it because like you know the the

crazier stuff would get on video and then people would send us like even crazier things to to put on video and it just like went overboard like we started getting like really really gross stuff and it was like oh stop it it wasn't people ruined the fun just it would just get gross uh here's a cool thing here's a cool thing ian was the one who said the word bitch the most. I believe it. Sure. I've never heard you say bitch. Well, it used to be like a bit. It was our, it was our, no, don't give me that face.

What face? You seem disappointed in me. I am a little bit disappointed. No, no, but. Bitch is so fun to say. We wouldn't say it to like, we wouldn't say it to women. We would always say it to each other. So we, and we wouldn't say it like, you know, like, like that way.

We'd be like, bitch. Oh, very cool. Bring it back. I think we are, yeah. Oh, okay. Spoiler, spoiler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoiler, man.

Ian has apiphobia. What is that? A fear of bees. And possibly spexophobia, a fear of wasps. Due to an incident when he was a child where he used a swing against an active wasp hive, causing the bees to attack him. Oh, yeah. Is that a real story?

Is this in My Girl? No, the story's real. I don't think I'm afraid. I'm not really afraid of bees. Wasps I'm afraid of because I don't trust them. But yeah, I was swinging on a swing in my aunt's backyard. And you know the swings that had the plastic over the chain? Yes, of course.

I think they made a nest in there. Oh. And so when I went to swing on it, they came out of it or something. And yeah, I got stung by a bunch of wasps. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, it wasn't fun. So did Macaulay Culkin.

Oh. My girl. Didn't work out so well for him died yeah spoiler spoilers and then uh there's a bunch of just random shit here but then uh lastly and i remember this in july of 2020 ian changed his twitter name and avatar to kayu for an unknown reason i knew i remember that that was just for great shit that was just for shits and giggles yeah it was a good time yeah that was that was just for shits and giggles. I remember that. Yeah, that was great. That was a lot of fun.

That's the most fun I had on Twitter. Except for announcing Smosh? No. I haven't even been able to engage with people. I've been doing this bullshit. Oh my God, enough. Okay. But is your Twitter broken?

I don't think so. Okay, good. Yeah, I think it's still working. I heard Smosh's Twitter is a little bit broken right now because of all the tweets. Yeah, it's just too popular. That's really sweet. Popping off. Amanda, I have your trivia here.

I think most of this is correct. Was casted as big-breasted woman number one? By Smosh. Primarily works as. Amanda, I think you're right. It says Amanda is Portuguese. Oh. Yes.

But like a specific kind of Portuguese, right? My family's from the Azores. Oh, well, it doesn't have that info. San Miguel. And I'm half Irish also. Wow.

So they're not fully correct. No. Amanda often has lunch with Angela. Oh. Is that correct? Is that correct? I love these facts.

I love, Ian's are like these intense, crazy facts. And Nora's is just like, she got lunch with Angela once. Yeah, she got into her car. Well, there's a lot of accounts that are like, Angela and Amanda are best friends forever. It's really cute. Is that an Arasha prank that she's setting up?

No, no, no. There's like a legit Amanda and Angela are best friends Instagram and YouTube. And it's really cute. It's every moment that we've ever touched. It's really cute. The compilation gets so specific. I do have lunch with Angela a lot.

Good. OK, so that's also true. I support that. Amanda has been told that she looks like Adam Sandler and Cat in the Hat, which we know is true. No, I haven't gotten a female. I've gotten Aubrey Plaza. I've also gotten What's Her Name from Girls.

I've noticed some random men on Twitter are very triggered by your bangs. Really? Yeah, yeah. Really? Some men are legitimately triggered by your bangs. Why? Triggered in a bad way? some men are like legitimately like triggered by your bangs why like like they're like they're like they're like don't trust a woman that has bangs like that i have never seen that yeah i've

seen a couple comments i think there's like there's something protected by my bangs then yeah there's something that makes like some men like deeply insecure yeah i i actually get i actually get a lot of messages on my instagram that are like mommy your bangs oh my god mommy well that's good that's good attention mommy mother is good i get mother all the time and it's like your bangs like i would say that on other women like i don't like them but on you it makes me feel something like, I feel like, I don't even know. And I'm like,

yeah, my messages on Instagram are never like, I'm never like, oh God, I'm always like, oh, oh,

oh, okay, mommy. Yeah, I think this is more like Twitter. Oh, okay, Twitter.

Yeah. I'm gonna love that. Some blue check marks, some blue check marks. Getting mad about the bangs. So, besides that, Amanda,

the only thing that I saw in yours that kind of blew my mind, it's under professional information. It says other works of note. NBC7 News. Yeah. I don't think I knew that you worked on NBC7 News. Yeah.

Are you a crisis actor? Yeah. Is that what it was? No, I worked in... What the fuck? No, no. No, I worked in downtown boston i would take the train and i worked at channel 7 nbc news as a writer i was a news writer i was like the people super stressed out behind the reporters you were writing the fake news i was writing the fake news exactly

and then i was but i first started off as a PA and a teleprompter. Okay. I got yelled at more times than I can count on that job. So I would be the teleprompter person who would turn the little teleprompter. That's a serious skill. It was a serious skill, but like the producer was so angry at me all the time. Because if you go the littlest bit fast, the reporters get so angry at me all the time because if you go the littlest bit fast the reporters get so angry yeah and so yeah i worked at channel 7 like the 4am shift for almost three years i didn't i enjoyed

the news a lot i thought i was going to be a news reporter because my mom didn't wasn't like ian's parents she was like okay all these fun like because i would film everything i did i would make little movies when i was a kid and she'd be be like, okay, that's fun, but, like, be a reporter. It's the same thing that you're doing on the side. I was like, okay. So I, like, pursued reporting. Yeah, and I made a reporting reel, and all my friends thought it was a joke. Because I was so, they were like, this is hilarious.

And I was like, I'm talking about murder and people tied up. So it was, yeah, my reel just showed me that I was in the wrong place. So I left Boston. Guys, it's okay. Maybe one day you'll see my reporting reel. I use my hands a lot. Oh, if we can upload that, that'd be so awesome. I'm like, a man was caught down.

Did you use a different voice? I used a reporter voice a lot. But I didn't go too hard, and I was very awkward. Do they give you lessons on that? I was 23. Oh, my God. Do they tell you how to talk? Yes. Yes.

They're like, hey, you need to talk like this. I just watched them a bunch and then did a lot of writing, and then I would like go out at 4 a.m. and shadow a reporter. And then I would jump in. And like while she was outside of court, I'm like jump in and do like my own. They call it package. Yeah. To think like your career, you could have been like at this point in your career, like a lead reporter and like Omaha. Yeah.

I feel like those people like it's so it's such a weird career like you just bounce around in the most like random cities well that's the thing that i didn't know that i couldn't start in a city that i wanted i had to start in like wyoming or utah or ohio and you are a one-man band so you do everything you film yourself you set up your shot one-man band. So you do everything. You film yourself. You set up your shot. You edit. You do your graphics. You do everything.

You're literally a YouTuber. I didn't know that. For like five to six years. Holy shit. And then maybe you can – so those people on the desk have worked grunt work for like 10 years before they got on there. So that's why they're allowed to be very angry at you for fucking up the teleprompter. So angry.

Exactly. Exactly. And I realized I was just like, it's really hard reading the news every single day. It was like really depressing. Plus, I loved comedy. And you have to wake up at like 3am. No, you have to wake up at like 2.30 if you're on camera to do your makeup.

But for me, I woke up at 3am and took the train. Yeah, gosh. And would drink Dunkies. Dunkies! Dunkies! Dunkies, baby! Dunkies! Yeah donkeys yeah truth wow that's wild i can't wait to see baby amanda we're gonna find that and we're gonna show it uh lastly drinking donkeys lastly before we we're out of freaking time shit i wanted to read yours well okay before we go there's one thing okay there's a couple things on mine that I do not understand.

Okay. Okay. I don't, because a lot of them I know the video where they came from, right? I'm like, oh, we did that in a Two Truths, One Lie or something. Yeah. So I have a couple here. Shane hates cheese. I have no idea where it came from, but it's on there.

Does it hurt your tummy? No, I don't hate cheese. It must be a video. But it says reference needed. So someone just put that on there. Because it hurts your tummy? No, I don't hate cheese. It must be a video. But it says reference needed. So someone just put that on there. Somebody just trolling. Someone else put, one of Shane's favorite TV shows

is ABC's Once Upon a Time. He has said, quote, I really like the story of the show. It makes me feel like I am in the scene which is important to me. Oh! I don't understand. Here's the weird thing. like the story of the show. It makes me feel like I am in the scene, which is important to me. I don't understand. Here's the weird thing.

I did watch the first season of Once Upon a Time, but I didn't love it. So I don't know how this happened. So we need to figure that shit out. It also says Shane's favorite Pringle flavor is the barbecue Pringle, which is also not true. I don't know where this shit came from.

I'm very confused. Reference needed on most of these. Reference needed. I will say, speaking of misinformation on the Wikias and the fandom Wikis, somebody kept putting on Smosh's real Wikipedia last month that Anthony anthony and ian own smosh funny and they were like they were like they kept writing like because of like some some uh clause that anthony put into the contract and blah blah blah now anthony and ian own smosh and we were sitting there obviously planning yeah on this deal and we're like who is adding this who is doing

this can't you find out no it's just like a track them down just a random like anthony's a tech wizard he can track them down but now you know that person is like yeah i knew it yeah i knew it i'm the coolest guy ever what that's really kind of did you guys you guys must have freaked out it was weird it was really weird i was like well it's it's like wrong information so it's like not a big deal but but it was still just like so strange that's bizarre hilarious well well i have a question for you okay so who would you rather be or who do you think's cooler big bird Bird or Snuffleupagus? Oh. This is a real serious question. I didn't really watch that much Sesame Street or Jim Henson property,

but I would say Snuffleupagus probably because Big Bird is just like Snuffleupagus. Isn't it Snuffleupagus? Snuffleupagus? Isn't it Snuffleupagus? I have absolutely no idea. I don't know. You're asking some serious boomer questions, Amanda. You know what?

Fuck. Ian, we're the same age, babe. That's not true. How old are you? Yeah, but you're married and stuff. That doesn't... That's true. That doesn't matter.

Babe, that's like a deep sadness of me. I'm like, am I married? Does that mean I like old and dead and off the market of life no no yeah great cool it is a nice ring though thanks it's a very nice okay so big bird or snuffle up all right uh incorrect uh ian thank you for being here uh this has been enlightening. Thank you. I'm happy to be back at SmoshCast. I think you two helming this thing is really fun.

And I wish you the best of luck. Thanks, Ian. Thanks, Ian. Well, you're welcome back anytime. Yeah, you're welcome back. I feel like we're about to go on a train ride or something. Here we go. We're about to leave the country. We'll see you guys later. Thanks for watching. See you next Monday.

Bye. Bye.