Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist - Chris Hemsworth

Episode Date: November 20, 2022

Before he became a larger-than-life hero of the Marvel cinematic universe, Chris Hemsworth was a young Australian soap opera star. When not wielding the hammer of Thor, the 39-year-old has starred in movies like The Huntsman, the Formula 1 driving film Rush, and, in a memorable turn to comedy, Ghostbusters. Now, the father of three who lives with his family far from Hollywood in Australia, is playing himself in a heart-stopping new series called Limitless. Chris and Willie Geist got together in New York for a Sunday Sitdown. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey guys, Willie Geist here with another episode of the Sunday Sit Down podcast. My thanks as always for clicking and listening along. Got a fun one for you today with Thor himself. Chris Hemsworth. Great dude is the first thing to say. A big dude. You know that from watching the movies, but man, you see it up close in real life. We got together at a restaurant in New York City. He walks in the door about my height. I'm a tall guy. But, you know, I guess I'm man enough to admit he's a lot. He's a little bit better built than I am. And just a great guy to sit and talk with. Grew up partly in Melbourne, Australia, but also spent a lot of time with his family on a cattle ranch in the Australian Outback. You'll hear him talk a little bit about some of that with two

brothers, also actors, older brother Luke, younger brother Liam, decided after a high school film class that he was going to someday grow up and go to Hollywood. Teacher thought he was crazy, how are you going to get all the way from here to there? He just started building a career. Did commercials, did Australian soap operas, a famous one called Home and Away, where a lot of Australian actors you know, Naomi Watts, Heath Ledger, others have appeared before coming to L.A., and he made that jump. Struggled for a while in Los Angeles, you'll hear him talk about that as well,

before being cast by J.J. Abrams in the Star Trek movie, the Marvel people, see him in the Star Trek movie in 2009, and they say, we think that's our Thor. and the rest is history. Four Thor movies made about $3 billion together. On top of that, all the Avengers movies, some of the most successful at the box office movies of all time. And now he's doing something really cool.

It's a series called Limitless, produced by National Geographic, streaming on Disney Plus. It's real-life Chris Hemsworth. You may have seen some of the trailers, some of the stuff on social media, where he's hanging a thousand feet above the ground from a cable car and pulling himself up on a rope. You know that rope you had to try to climb in high school class? He's doing it up to a cable car to walk on a beam, a thousand feet off the ground on top

of a building in Sydney. The Australian Special Forces tie his hands behind his back and his legs together and push him into a pool and he has to survive, like crazy stuff. But it's not gratuitous, as you'll hear us explain. It's amazing to watch that part of it, but it's all in the name of finding ways to handle stress of talking about aging, of talking about longevity, confronting death. It's actually, once you get past all the cool Chris Hemsworth doing crazy stuff part, it's a really deep, profound show. Again, it's called Limitless. You can watch it on Disney Plus.

So I will step aside now, and we will sit down together with Chris Hemsworth right now on the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Thanks for doing this, man. Great to see you. I've been so excited to talk to you since watching. these episodes yesterday because I think a lot of people have seen the trailer for Limitless and they see you hanging off a cable car and you're taking off your shirt and you're swimming in Arctic waters and everything else and they go okay this is an adventure show man there's just so

much more to it than that yeah how do you explain it and then how did somebody pitch it to you at first well the way was explained to me was about three years ago Darren Aronofsky came to me and said, I want to do a show about longevity and we'll have some of the world's leading experts in that space and we're going to test some of the science and put you through a series of pretty physical, mental, emotional challenges. And I don't think he really knew what it was going to become, nor did I, because we then shot it over pre-COVID during and after. So it was spanned over two and a half years. Initially, it was supposed to be a two and a half week thing. And so the show kind of continue to grow, as did my sort of enthusiasm for it and my commitment for what

we're doing. As you just said, I didn't expect it to have the emotional pull and component it has, in particular the last episode, which is about acceptance and about death. So it's quite a profound sort of experience on many levels. So did they explain to you, Chris, though, that you'd be walking across a beam, a thousand feet above Sydney or crawling through fire, or fighting for your life in a swimming pool when they pitched it to you? There was little snippets of that, but I think intentionally

there was a, they held back on the real details, I think. There might have been, I'm going to have been running for the hills that they told me too much, but again, it grew anyway. Like we had to adapt to different locations. And for instance,

initially we were going to do cold water immersion and we were doing ice baths in Australia and so on. And then it was like, let's go to Norway. We went to Norway and it was going to be like, okay, let's, you know, do some ice baths here and, well, let's, let's go and swim in this little calm patch of water here. And then it advanced into, you know, it was snowing, there was a chop in the water, a lot of wind.

And I was out in the open ocean and the Arctic swimming. And, yeah, it was intense. I'm wondering, how did this happen? How did I get here? What did I do it here? Yeah. What did your wife and your family think when you told her what you're up to? my wife was keen I mean she'd do any of it and some

my parents were kind of gone what are you doing my dad was like is this safe should you be doing this why are you doing this and said it's for longevity dad I can be able

to tell us all how to live longer and you're right and that's the part of it I think people are going to be excited when they see there is the adventure

of you doing all these crazy things but then we get to sort of the next beat which is why you're doing these things and in the first episode it's about stress

and yes you are are Chris Hemsworth, you are Thor, but you have a lot of the same stuff going on that we all have going on in terms of stress and anxiety. And I think part of the show that's really important to communicate to the audience is that you open yourself up. Like you're totally vulnerable when you're sitting and talking about the things that give you anxiety. So what was that piece of it hard for you to say, I'm going to drop the veil a little bit and just show fans who I am off screen? It was probably my biggest hesitation.

You know, I'm used to being behind the mask of a character and developing a character and then diving into the sort of nuance and the story and so on. And to then play yourself, but not just in a setting like this where we're talking, where you're actually having to dissect some pretty deep concepts and deep emotions and thoughts and confront some things that are stressful or concerning, problematic. It was kind of like being in a therapy session at times, but without the rebrand. of the advice at the end of it. So I'd be lying if I said a few times, I was like,

am I giving too much here? And, but the response I've had so far was it allows people to connect easier with with the content. I think being vulnerable, it opens people up to their own interpretation of the situation. And they can put themselves in your shoes and also think, okay, how would I handle this and how would I approach it? And if, you know, myself and everyone in the show can be a conduit for people to live a healthier life and live a longer life and a happier life, then fantastic. So my emotions aside and my sort of resistance or hesitation, it sort of went out the window pretty quick once, once that became the purpose of the experience.

What are the things you think your fans will be surprised to learn that stress you out in real life? Because it's pretty mundane stuff that we all go through. Yeah. I mean, I talk about it in that, you know, if I can prep myself for an event and I'm walking on stage and the red carpet, I'm like, okay, I'm in the zone, I'm ready for it. For me, when I go out in a public and it catches me out of nowhere, or I'm sort of weaving to the crowd and it's fine, no one's really paying attention. I'm with my kids in a restaurant and they start flipping out. There's a scene, and then people are watching, and then, you know, phones are coming out. And, you know, I know it sounds kind of mundane and whatever, but that, I don't know, I think it's, it triggers that my fight or flight.

in a pretty intense way. And like most of us, we're a condition now to bring upon that state unintentionally and even without there even being any great need for it. You know, we're not being, we're often not in the danger that our body thinks we're in. And so one of the episodes was about stress and about managing that. And it was a big reminder for me, you know, that it's incredibly detrimental to our health living in that state constantly having the cortisol and adrenaline, you know, flooding through the body, especially when we're not exerting it physically and, you know, having a run or fight or do

something. But I think part of the lesson of the show is you can do something about it. Yeah. You learn and then you apply it and I don't want to give away too much, but you're in a very precarious position, very high in the air and you actually stop and turn down your heart rate. Yeah. You stop and say, okay, what are the things I've learned? So are you able to do that now?

Are you able to use all those techniques you learned on the show? I do. I take more moments of pause, I think, than I did before. And not just out of feeling I need to catch my breath, but understanding the science behind it and having seen it play out in real time in the episode when I'm walking across the skyscraper off the beam and my heart rate goes up to 1.45

and then through some breathing techniques and focus, bring it back down to about 85. And, yeah, that was pretty remarkable. And I can trust the science. and hear about it and here's going through it myself and seeing it work was it was a great sort of validation that okay some of this is within our control you know we're not and we shouldn't be a victim to it and let it be sort of fear-based constantly one of the other episodes is incredibly poignant is the one about memory which I think a lot of us somewhere in the recesses

of our mind have this fear that we're going to get to a point of our life where we don't remember our lives. Yeah. That we've had these incredible experiences that escape us somehow. Why did you want to tackle the issue of memory for you? Well, the show was designed by the producers and Darren, and that was one of the key pillars of health and wellness. And we talk about longevity and memory is absolutely essential.

I don't know how much I want to give away about the episode, but they did a deep dive into my blood work and my genetics and found some things and some indications that put me in a very high category, a risk category for Alzheimer's. And it was a real shock, you know, the first kind of instance I found that out. But became a wonderful motivator to make changes and do things differently and pay attention to my sleep habits and further attention to my stress management. And look again, if it also can help people go, oh, maybe I could do some investigating here and figure out some ways to give myself the best fighting chance.

Then great. It's not a, it wasn't a predeterministic gene that they found, but it was a pretty strong indication. It's an extraordinary moment when the doctor tells you that, and it just stops you in your tracks. You can see it written all over your face. But he also says, trust me when I tell you this will be a gift.

in the long run. Have you learned to see it that way? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, pretty quickly I thought, well, this is kind of, we're all up against different things, but none of it, you know, this certainly wasn't an official diagnosis. You know, it was a, you want to be wary of this particular thing. But whatever I do in regards to the brain health drastically affects my body in every other way, too, and my long term and my short term health. Yeah, it's, again, there are things we can do, and it's good for people know that, even if they're not in the wrist zone yet, too. Unfortunately, I was checking off boxes as someone who works in morning TV, don't sleep enough, don't always eat right.

Yeah. Right? And that applies to everybody. Yeah. I think, like, I found it comforting also, like, genetics plays a part and everything and the outcome, but the majority of the outcome is based on our lifestyle choices. and what we choose to participate in, what our sleep habits are, how we manage stress, what our exercise routine looks like nutrition and so on. And the benefits for me, not just sort of physically but emotionally. You know, if I'm paying attention to those things, I'm a far better, happier person.

When I don't, and as you say, when you don't get the sleep and so on, we're just not running at our optimal level. And of course, because it's the show, the task is not do a crossword puzzle. It's, we're going to throw you into the woods with a buddy and good luck finding them. We're trying to get you to go, which is kind of amazing. But I think one of the things that's cool about the episode is it reinforces how important social interactions and having people around you that you're not isolated as you get later on in life. So keep those people close. Absolutely, yeah.

I think with the blue zones, the zones that have the most centurions in them, one of the biggest commonalities between those scripture people were, social connection and having family and friends and living in a community where there was support and hugely important for all of us. The isolation is what is it does the most damage. And then I promise I won't walk you through every episode, but I really enjoyed it. So the closing episode, and we'll try not to give too much away, as you said, is about acceptance and sort of being on the doorstep of death and then perhaps even encountering

what that feels like at that moment. I was very emotional to watch. I can't imagine what it was like for you to go through it. What was that episode like for you? What did you take away from it? A lot. It was, I had no idea what the episode was going to be coming into it. And that was intentional from the director and producers.

I was an absolute guinea pig in this experiment. It was a sort of immersive theater situation. that I was placed in. I was going to stay in an old person's retirement village for three days. We're an age-simulating suit that made me feel like an 85-year-old. I was then going to interact with people who were in their later years of their life, who had suffered tremendous loss, a young lady who had stage 4 cancer, she was 27, palliative care worker, a death dula.

And so across these three days, in detail, talking. about death and considering the end of life. And I think for most of us, we like to think we're going to beat it somehow. You know, we understand it rationally on one level that it is finite and we're all going to come to the finish line eventually. But we trick ourselves into thinking we'll beat it or we try to figure out ways around it and avoid it. It's like this taboo thing to discuss.

But the science shows us that people with a greater acceptance of death live with a greater sense of gratitude and a sense of purpose and then understand. that this isn't going to last forever, so make the most of it. And having my wife in the episode too was amazing. It's a beautiful. Yeah. And I didn't know she was going to be there either. And so it was beautiful and she felt incredibly vulnerable.

And the whole thing, the way it was set up was, there was nothing manipulative about it, but there was a space created for truth and honesty. And I'm really happy that we were able to be. vulnerable in that space and how the episode turned out. First of all, I'd never heard of a death doula until that episode. That was something new. But she was so wise in the moment where she says, effectively, we're always thinking, okay, things will change at this point.

Or I'll be happy when I reach this age or this goal. She said, no, it's happening right now. Yeah. So be in the moment. Was that part of what you took away from this entire series? For sure. Yeah. And her and B.J. Miller, who's a palliative care worker.

said that, you know, people get to the end of their life and they wish they had have done this and this and this. And he said, what a great opportunity to, as a young man, be considering this in such detail and be able to think, well, if there's anything I wish I have, would have done different or want to do different, I have plenty of time to do it, hopefully. And so it did. I had a wonderful sense of joy and gratitude and excellent. and excitement to sort of rush home to my kids and family and go, right, this is what I want to do.

And I've had this tremendous career and I've been so lucky and working, but I found myself kind of piling one job on top of the next and not a whole lot of time for preparation or decompression afterward. And so certainly after doing the show, you know, I want to curate my career in a different way and be a little more, have a little more time, you know, in between things just to, again, to appreciate them, but also get back to what's important in the family. Hey guys, thanks for listening to the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Stick around to hear more from Chris Hemsworth right after the break. Welcome back now more of my conversation with Chris Hemsworth.

You're still a young man, but was part of the reason you took on this series because you are thinking about legacies, maybe not the right word, but like what you want out of this life, you've already had huge success. Yeah. Is that part of what you, I mean, because you are, you're thinking. about it away and I think a lot of people under 40 don't think that way. They still think I got the whole road ahead of me but you've stopped in the series and said what is left and what do I want to do with that time? It was. It was a real sort of wake up to if I continue in a sprint, you know,

the finish line being death one day I'll be there and I'll go, oh yeah, what just happened? It's flown by in an instant and so I feel very thankful for being asked to do the the series and be a part of it. I had no idea it was going to teach me what we're talking about. But, and I hope people get the same thing from it. I hope it is a nice reminder that we get one shot at it as far as we know and make the most of it. There's a moment where you're driving at some point and you're talking about why you've taken on so much and you never stop, you never stop. And you tie it back to your childhood. Growing up in the Northern Territory where you thought, but my dad said he could never pay off the loan for the home or the ranch,

and I want to help him pay that off. And so you've just taken on everything. Was that a lot of the inspiration for your work ethic, was to get to a place where maybe you didn't have in your childhood? It was. It had a really interesting period when I finally paid off my parents' house and took care of them and they were able to retire and family and friends as well and went, oh, now what?

you know and it's not that i didn't have a passion and a love for acting and telling stories um my initial attraction to it was as a fan you know it wasn't to be an actor i just wanted to inhabit those spaces the fantasy of it was was inspiring and uh so i was able to develop then sort of a new love for it and a different sort of passion um but you know we'll your purposes change all the time you have different goals and different reasons for them and but i think when it's in sort of some sort of servitude to something outside of yourself, there's a greater sense of accomplishment thing, I think, and the pressure is different. It's pressure I don't mind sort of, you know, gritting my teeth through it as opposed to, you know, it's based on my own personal ego and I need

to check this box and do this. And, you know, it's sort of, there's a lack of sort of substance there. So how did a boy who grew up, I don't know, four or five hours from the nearest town in the outback of the Northern Territory even get the idea that he could be an actor, let alone that that would be a job and a career, because it runs in your family. Your brothers apparently had the same idea. How did you even think of that?

Look, we lived in Northern Territory when I was young a couple of different times, then went back to Melbourne and lived there, and there was no acting school really near me, there wasn't a whole lot of theater projects or anything. And so I didn't even have, I wasn't even part of it. It was, I was just a fan of movies and I love books and storytelling and the fantasy and the adventure to it. When I was finishing high school, my brother did a film and television course once a week and said, oh, you should do this.

And I did one course and was like, that's it, going to Hollywood. All the other ideas that I had week to week just went by the wayside and told my career's advisor at school. And she was like, oh, okay, watch your backup. I don't have one, don't have one. So, and I think it's, it requires a, it's certain obsessiveness and a compulsive commitment to it, you know, which is fantastic in the earlier days coming up and, you know, like deflecting the nose and the rejections and so on. You're plowing forward and then nothing's going to stop you. And then what I found has been interesting is I'm not in the sprint anymore and I can afford to relax a little bit, but there's still a party going, it's going to, what if it's just getting away and so on. So that balance is what it's about to sort of keep those two things, you know,

my purpose and the fear, I guess, in check. And so I don't want to dismiss it and it got me here, but learning how to monitor that now and temper it and use it at the right time as opposed to it just being one gear that I mean consistently. You had some early success on the Saddle Club. You're a fan of your work as a teenage veterinarian. Thank you. Yeah.

That's all of 17. and somehow... Apparently moved quickly through veterinary school. You do some people. It's who you know. He was a prodigy. A prodigy.

It's a doogie hauser. Exactly. The doogiehouser of the veterinary world. And then you moved to L.A., I think, 2007, about 15 years ago. Yeah. That's a big move, obviously. Yeah.

With nothing guaranteed to you when you step off the plane there. Yeah. What were those early years in L.A. like for you? Well, I was in Australia doing a TV show, and then I was trying to audition through that for films and so on and they couldn't even get an audition to be honest um and if i did it wasn't any wonderful feedback it was not see you later um i went to la and then um i in the sort of the first sort of three four months i was there it was like no no no no no no no no and then my visa was about to run out

and i got a small job on something which got that extended um and i had sort of a couple of things that that worked for a minute there and then i had eight nine 10 months of nothing and it felt like I was going backwards and my feedback was getting worse. And I was getting nervous again. I had this sort of performance anxiety that I had earlier in my career that just started rearing its head. And I had to kind of reconfigure my thinking. You know, I had to be, you know, I'd walk into a situation and there'd be adrenaline

and shortness of breath and so on instead of thinking, okay, this signals a tragic situation and I'm going to fail, I'd think, no, this is excitement. and I've got to treat you. This is signaling my ability to think quicker, see clearer, you know, my reactions are going to speed up. And so I started to think of it as my spidey senses, you know, that adrenaline, rather than some sort of the monster that was going to be detrimental to that, whatever it was that I was doing.

And that really, you know, reprogram things for me, and then my approach to things, how I auditioned, I stopped sort of walking in and putting it on a pedestal. I'd go, no, I deserve to be here and a little bit of self sort of motivation. auditions, auditions, and then Thor came along, and then it's been the Thor marble train for a while and anything else has been either side of it. Well, the interesting step along the way to Thor is Star Trek, which is a job you were called back for later, as I understand it, by JJ Abrams.

And that was sort of right, the stepping stone to Thor, an unexpected one, maybe. Yeah, it was. It was, it was, I was on my way up to Sanfran, I think, I was driving up from California and I got a phone course, and he would come back to audition for Star Trek. I was like, Star Trek, that's an old TV show. What is this? And I'm like, no, no, no. You auditioned for it like a year ago for Kirk.

And I was like, did I? I said, yeah, come back and Jojo wants to meet you. He's seen that audition. I'm like, I couldn't even remember when it was or what it was. And so I came back and I met with him at his desk, Paramount Studios. And he said, right, hand me the scene. He said, just read the scene. I was like, go there's a classic sort of like stumbling through the lines.

So you can do it again. I don't know. He goes great. Do you want the job? I was like, yeah. See you Monday. And I had no idea that it was a two, three hundred million dollar movie and it was just big, big event.

And thankfully, because I think I would have, you know, if I would have struggled through it if I had understood the gravity of it. But that then turned some heads. Josh Whedon, Drew Goddard. I did Cabin in the Woods. And then Ken Brannis saw that. And that was where the Thor edition came back in. Did you have a sense when you started Thor just over a decade ago?

You couldn't have imagined it was going to be this big and this life-changing, but it was a huge production you knew that, that this was going to be a step into a completely different world for you? Yeah, I mean, every job you're hoping it's going to be that. And there was talk that this may grow into something else. I think I did sign a contract that said I might do another Thor film, another A-A Avengers film. In most days, I was spent just waiting for the tap on the shoulder,

and say, this is a not working kid, get out of here. And then we finished the film and it works and then we did Avengers one and it was huge and then it is just being

kind of one after the other and each time it's been it's been amazing to do something different that many times. I've played the character I think eight or nine times but I've been able to work

with different directors who bring out something different and unique. The character has gone from a sort of the Shakespearean sort of molding with Kenneth Branner into sort of, I don't know, there's a sort of wacky romantic comedy space we had in the last film, and then the last few Avengers sat somewhere sort of in the middle.

So as long as I get to keep doing something different, I'll be down for it. But at the moment, I've sort of, you know, my runner's Thor is, is that's it, I think. You think so? I don't know. You have no idea. I have nothing no more contractual obligations or anything They're not going to let you go, man

They're too popular My daughter said that I was like I was like Yeah, I'm my judge, I could be home more And she was, you're not going to act anymore I was like, maybe I'll just die home with you And she goes, Dad, kids want to see you play for I was like, oh okay, well

Does this kid want to see her dad? No, maybe She's like, eh She's like, yeah, sometimes But mostly the other kids at school Stick around For more of my conversation with Chris Hemsworth right after a quick break.

Welcome back now to the rest of my conversation with Chris Hemsworth. Have you stopped ever to think about like life before and after how different, personally now I'm talking, how different your life is because of these Thor movies and these Avengers movies and or even think about the kid back in Australia who was just trying to get a job on a soap opera somewhere. Yeah. That now you've got an entire universe of fans and that you are Chris Hemsworth. Celebrity Chris Hemsworth.

What has that been like for you personally in terms of changes to your life? It's been wonderful, you know, it's been wonderful to do something that or achieve something that was my dream. And then the dream to change and achieve that and continually be in a situation where I'm pinching myself going, I remember when it was the other way, it was like that. and every time I fly into LA I pass, you know, casting offices and immediately my heart rate goes up. Still?

Yeah, yeah. It's just this like the nostalgia to it. And, you know, so many years spent pulling up to those places sitting in my car going, okay, come on, we can here, come on, let's do this, you know. And then I come here to New York and I'm like, wow, this is like, this is the city that most of my favorite movies,

this was the backdrop for. And so it brings up all. sorts of emotions and feelings and how I felt as a young kid watching films before I even wanted to be an actor, what this place looked like and felt like. So, yeah, I hope I can just be in a constant state of appreciation for it. And it's been a wild fun ride and I hope it continues. It seems to me from the outside you've kept some vested of normalcy in your private life. You got the great Instagram, we see the family. But by and large, you guys are kind of tuck away doing your own thing.

Yeah. And that's a conscious effort, I suspect. Yeah. My wife from Madrid, we both lived in L.A. We had kids there. And it was just tricky, you know, to paparazzi, so on. I found it was harder to switch off because I got to work and outside of work, you're interacting with everyone from work and it's from the sort of entertainment industry.

So you're constantly sort of reminded of what you're doing, what you're not doing. and I felt a period of time where I didn't have much to say as me because it felt just all make-believe. And we moved back to Australia, and instantly I had this sense of, I don't know, refilling of my cup, I guess, and I had stories to tell because I was interacting with people from all walks of life in different situations.

And it wasn't just about, you know, discussing scripts and so on. And most importantly for my kids, too, to not be surrounded by that constantly and just be doing very normal things and living in a sort of small country surf town and riding horses and surfing and motorbikes and fun stuff. I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask you about Ghostbusters. Because when you talk about your daughter saying, you're still going to play Thor and you're thinking about other things, comedy has to be on the radar. Because I think you surprised a ton of people with just because they hadn't seen it before. with how funny you were in that movie as Kevin. Was that a blast to shoot that movie? That was one of the funest experiences I've had on a set.

Working with four of the most talented comedic actresses in the business was, that was nerve-wracking. That was one of the most nerve-wracking things I've done. Actually, the night before I was supposed to shoot, I called Paul Figue, and I said, mate, where's the script? Like, there's nothing in there. He said, don't worry, we work it out tomorrow.

I was like, what? So the whole thing was improvised, and they couldn't have been more generous with, kind of helping me through it. But I was bomb. We didn't get to do another one because I love that character. Yeah, I mean, you're working with some of the great improvisers of all time. Yeah. And you're right there with them. Right there. That's your audition tape for the next comedy this kind of. Thank you. Well, congratulations on Limitless. Thanks so much. Yes, it's fun to watch all the adventures, but at the core of it, there's so much

takeaway that I think people will be excited to see and perhaps aren't expecting. So congrats and thanks for the time. Good to see you. Thank you so much. Thanks so. My big thanks to Chris for a great conversation. You can check out Limitless streaming now on Disney Plus. And thanks to all of you for listening again this week. If you want to hear more of these conversations with our guests every week, be sure to click follow so you never miss an episode. And don't forget to tune in to Sunday today every weekend on NBC.

I'm Willie Geist. We'll see you right back here next week on the Sunday Sit Down podcast.