Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist - Drew Barrymore (2020)

Episode Date: October 25, 2020

Drew Barrymore has spent almost her entire life in the public eye, starting with her breakthrough role in E.T. at just 7 years old and continuing over four decades of acting, producing and directing. In this week’s “Sunday Sitdown,” Willie Geist gets together with the Hollywood star to talk about her long career in the spotlight and making the transition into daytime television with her new talk show “The Drew Barrymore Show.” Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey guys, Willie Geist here with another episode of the Sunday Sit Down podcast. My thanks, as always, for clicking and listening along. Got another good one for you and another brand new one for you with Drew Barrymore. Come on. Drew Barrymore. Need I say more? You know everything about her. You've known her. You've loved her for more than 40 years dating back to when she was the sweet little girl in E.T. She's been an actor. She's been a director. She's been a producer. She's been a powerhouse in every way. She's now the mother of two beautiful little girls. And, the host of the Drew Barrymore show, a daytime talk show. She is the host, an entirely new adventure for Drew, who spent her career up on screen in movies, and is now in that grind of every day putting out an hour of TV. She's also doing it, of course, in the middle of a pandemic. She started developing the Drew Barrymore show, which launched just last month its first season,

and September 14th was the premiere. She launched the idea a couple of years ago, has been talking about it with executives at CBS developed an idea, shot a pilot, and then of course along comes the coronavirus pandemic and changes everything about the way they developed the show, about the way the show looks and feels. She comes into a virtual audience up on the wall in her studio, and that's exactly where we shot our interview. I was not there, but she was.

So if you can picture this, we've been doing a lot of these over Zoom, two of us looking into a computer. In this case, I'm looking into my computer, but she's sitting. in that big, beautiful, outfitted Drew Barrymore Show's studio. She's sitting in her big leather chair. She's got my giant head, which must be terrifying up on the monitor and the wall next to her. We, of course, had the ceremonial exchange of the mugs. They're very similar. Mine is a giant, if you don't have it yet, you're really missing out. The big yellow mug that holds about four cups of coffee, it's really probably illegal to have a mug that size.

It violates some, I don't know, FDA rules. Is that FDA cover mugs? I don't know. No, she's got the same look, not quite as big. Mine's yellow with white writing. Hers is white with yellow writing. I know how fascinating that is to you, but I just wanted to explain it to you because you'll hear us exchange our mugs and compliment each other on our respective mugs to begin the interview. So she's trying something new. You already know her.

You don't need to hear anything more from me. She's just great. She's open. Talks about her family. Talks about her recent divorce and how painful it is to have your life be an open book, which is part of the job requirement for these talk shows. But she's stepped into it. She's willing to do it.

She's charming. She's smart. She's funny. She's all the things you know Drew Barrymore to be. And she's on the Sunday Sit Down podcast right now. Drew, it's so great to see you. Thanks for doing this. It's always so great to see, Willie.

And I'm so thrilled you're having me on your show. It's a big deal. I'm serious. Well, thank you. I feel like I'm on your show with your beautiful studio there. and, you know, what else I have, the official, highly coveted, Drew Barrymore Show mug.

Well, I happen to have the biggest mug in town, and it's the Willie Geist mug. I mean, I have to tell you, I've been, you know, merchandising the show. Where did you source this mug? We went with the big, loud color, and a cup that'll hold two cups of color. I don't know where on earth we got it, but we have added recently to slippers, which I think are really important for you doing a morning show. So people can have their Drew mug and their Drew slippers.

I think we're the inverse of each other, too. We're white with yellow and you're yellow with white. That's perfect. Cheers. Cheers to you. Congratulations on the show. Thank you. I can't believe we're here. As we're sitting here right now, Drew, this is the one month anniversary of the first day of your show. Oh, it is? Today, it is today. Happy anniversary, guys. I like how I'm the only one who knew that on your whole crew. You're yelling everybody. Well, we were here doing some evergreens and test shows, and, you know, we all, like, feel like we've been in it for a while.

And then we had, you know, over a year since we shot the pilot and then, you know, six, probably eight months of heavy prep in order to launch. So it's actually nice to hear we're a month old because that. makes us feel useful again. Well, and, you know, I think people don't realize what goes into putting on a show like this. They think you walked in that first day and you were just drew and off we go. But we're talking about, like you said, a year at least more than that. Yep. So how did this germ of an idea even start with you?

I actually made a documentary called The Making of that's on our YouTube. It's four parts. And you can see it in total because I thought it was rather fascinating of, what it does take to launch a show like this. And when I started making it, it was really a little bit focused on sort of how we made this show in 2020, this unprecedented year,

but we went back to the pilot and realized what a different show because of that we were making. But it is a lot. And I am such a detail freak, and I became a producer at 19 because I loved being able to be at that party of decision making. And not because I'm into power or control,

it has nothing to do with that. It's the making of the creation, the tone, the look, the feel, the people involved, the, you know, community you're building. All of that to me is so interesting. And I think I always loved the acting because that's a part of what got me to there. and then I always thought I just can use myself and throw myself in there. But I think what goes on behind the camera to me has become more and more invaluable to keep my passion growing in the process of being a part of movies or television because the creating of it is so energizing and it's really endless possibilities. It gets very overwhelming a lot because you're like there are no bumper rails here.

You can make anything you want of these things. There's limitless options. But really, having a show like this is such an opportunity at any point. And right now, it's sort of a crazy notion as well as an opportunity. And I just realized how much things had evolved and changed in the year of the. The seat of the show really came from a woman named Elaine Bauer Brooks, who works at CBS television distribution, and this was really her idea. And she asked me to do it.

And we talked about all the things that we would want to do. But I think the most important thing also are all the things you wouldn't want to do. And some of that changed because of 2020. But a lot of it, I think we went into wanting to make the same type of show, a show that represented a lot of different types of people, a lot of human interest. I, comedy was a big part for me. I was like, everybody gets to have fun in late night. Let's bring that to daytime. I love comedy. Comedy is my savior. I love the news. We had Drew's News and the pilot over a year and a few months ago now. And that was something I thought that could be a way to start the show every day and be like a two-segment

entry point for me because I love news and pop culture. And I don't think I wanted to be you know, political then. They were like, you know, this show would air in September of 2020 is when it premieres and that's an election year. And do you want to be political? And I said no, actually, because as much as I'm so immersed in being a civically minded person and up on the news, I just think it is lose-lose in a type of environment like this. I became so much more obsessed with being the naive fool who wants to find the commonality rather than talk about the differences. Well, and I do feel like there's a thirst for that because, my gosh, there's no shortage of politics and people offering their takes and their opinions on literally every channel.

So is it nice for you to sort of be this oasis of, okay, I don't have to think about this for an hour every day? The only reason I love it so much is because I immerse myself in the other stuff so much. So I think it's a respite for me, too. because when we all agreed, like, not to be political day one, I worried that I might come off naive in another way, like, out of touch. And I think I am ridiculously goofy and overenthusiastic, and I over-talk and I dance around, and I'm a total spas.

And even station managers were like, wow, she's really enthusiastic week when I got, like, notes and stuff. And, you know, I'm like, oh, God, I know. Well, it's a live show and we've been building up to this. We're like greyhounds out of the gate. Of course, I'm going to be a little excited. All right. I guess I should tone it down. I mean, I think that's just naturally going to happen, but how embarrassing. But awesome. Like something's too positive. That's, that's embarrassing and ironic. So I'm, I'm in it with everyone. I'm doing the homeschooling with my kids and I'm watching the division out there. I'm hearing the call to actions of what 2020 is asking for us. I'm, you know, a politically minded person or I'm a voter. I am all these things, but I need a break from it too.

So I want this to be that. And I know that there are things that happen on this planet and in this country that make me think and know life is worth living and that there is beauty and there is humanity. and people do have each other's backs. And there's just no reason not to have something that represents that. There's a magazine I love called The Week. It's been my obsession for 13 years. And they have a column called Good Week, Bad Week, or It Wasn't All Bad. And these stories that they have in there are so random.

And I used to read this 12 and 13 years ago before there were, you know, Instagram, good news platforms. So I just always thought, I want to do a news show. That's why I built in Drew's news to the pilot a year and a half ago, because I was like, I just want a good news channel. And it doesn't have to all be so dandy and silly, but I just want to see the function. I want to see what people are doing that isn't mean or cruel or that people are angry about.

I wanted the antidote, if you will. I love the antidote. everybody needs the antidote. We all have to let off like some steam from the valves. We all need to laugh. I laugh in the darkest moments. I laugh in the lightest moments and everything in between. So I wanted to make comedy applicable. Also, you said, oh, you know, if you can be yourself on a show, that's the key. I am stuck with this. There's a New Yorker cartoon I love that's the guy's talking to the other guy and they're walking down the street and he's like, I'm tired of being chained to myself 24 hours a day. Like, we are stuck with ourselves.

And I don't know what else to do other than be myself. And apparently that's a lot. I don't know how to be any way else. This is who I am. But that's the only answer. Because the minute you go out and try to be something else, you're trying to be whatever the version of the talk show host, you think you're supposed to be,

the audience reads that immediately. And they already know you and they already love you. So if you go out and present yourself, put out the signal and see what you get. get back, right? I thought about that. Like, oh, I played characters, so are they going to think this is weird because it's not a character, it's me.

And I was like, I can never figure out what people are thinking. And I don't want to try. There's something so, like, I don't know, needy about wanting other people's, not just even approval, but I just think you're working in a blind. space and you will never get that feedback. But if you do it for other people, I think that's actually a really good intention. But I want to do it for other people without needing the approval. And it's not because I don't care. I care way too much. I'm so sensitive. And I would just die a thousand deaths if I thought I ever upset anyone or offended everybody. I go home every day and reeval.

my behavior. And it's not nice. Like, I'm really hard on myself. And if I ever act in a way that is just impatient or messy or anything like, I check myself so hard. I'm like my parent, my own parent that way. So I care if I make people feel a certain way. But I learned from growing up in Hollywood, like, don't do that to yourself. It just seemed like a vapid way to exist. And it's interesting because I think I've seen really intelligent approaches to navigating social media, which is a very similar thing than social media is so similar to the way I grew up. You know, you can get feedback and it will never almost not be this neutral. There will always be some positive and some negative. And I just think it's better to keep your head down and do the way.

work and not try to concern yourself with, you never really can't, it's hard to connect with those people anyway. But I do think we have a great responsibility for the way we make each other feel. Like that, I think, is like everyone's journey in life. Like, we should all check ourselves on that. We should be checked on that. That is the communication we're supposed to have with each other, but not what you think of me.

Right. That's like. Well, that comes with experience. You've learned that over 40 years in show business or whatever it's been, I guess, right? I don't know. Also, I don't think I've met anyone who's as harsh about me as I am. So, like, there's not, I'm not going to meet anyone who's as, like, unforgiving about me as me. You know, I was thinking as you were talking, this is obviously something totally different for you hosting a talk show. But in some ways, the time and effort you put into developing this is not unlike producing a movie and how long it takes. And when

that movie comes out, you put it out in the atmosphere, you don't know how people are going to respond to it. They don't care how hard you worked on it for two years. They just see it and they go, or they go, oh, that was great. So what was it like for you to finally go out and do that first real show? What did that feel like? Well, apparently I was really excited. So I, yeah, No, it was. I was. Can you imagine, like, being in this space and then you get projected out of it with so much buildup and anticipation. I'm surprised I didn't just come out and like explode all over the floor like confetti to give it a more poetic visual. So, yeah, I think, I think it was like one of the great buildups. of my life. And I definitely feel a lot like I did when we were trying to do Charlie's Angels. When Nan, my producing partner of 25 years and myself, we were, you know, just kids. We were

in our early 20s and taking on a $100 million budget. And people had sort of a, you know, a doubtful tone about a movie like that, girls doing action, girls being friends, TV remake, like it should be so lame and a lot of pressure because when you take the responsibility of taking people's money, all we wanted to do is be able to pay them back. And, you know, so I felt really scrappy back then. Like we had a lot of pressure and a big mission and we just wanted to be ourselves while we did it. And I felt just like that starting this show. Like 20 years later, I'm still feeling like big pressure, scrappy, wanting to be authentic, make an opportunity out of something, not let people down, pay people back.

You know, Nan always said to me, like, you keep your promises. That's what we do. We keep our promises. And I always feel a tremendous amount of pressure with that, which is, again, a good reason to be behind the scenes because you have such a better understanding. of everything that's at stake. Yeah, one of the things about a daily show as you're learning is it's always there, right? No matter how tough your night was or how tough a morning you had with the girls or whatever's

going on in your life, there's an hour of TV that has to happen every morning. So have you gotten into that rhythm over this first month? Yeah, absolutely. And I think that there are days where I would say 80, 90 percent of the time I can bring that honesty into the show and talk about it with people. There are definitely, you know, things I probably, it would just be a TMI or, you know, do I need to burden anyone with that is more of a question I have to myself and I think no. But I feel like so many people are not always like, hi, okay, here we go, everybody. Or if you are, did you have to work at that? Like, I love happiness and optimism, but my big thing

about happiness and optimism is it is a choice. It is hard to get to. It is not always available. And so, you know, yes, maybe I'm extremely enthusiastic and a total goofball. I mean, look at SNL. Like, come on. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. And it's just, it's so wonderful. But I think we, there's room in a show like this to talk about the day. process of living. And that's something that's so fun to me because there is an ongoing factor, whereas a film, there is as much work that goes into it. And then it's this finite product. So this is very unique in that way for me. But I always feel like every day I'm going to get fired. I'm positive of it. It's so intimidating because the more you care about something, the more

you're afraid of it going away. It's like if you really fall in love with someone, you're just terrified. they're going to die or break up with you or disappear. And it's because you don't want to lose something. So the feeling is the same with me for this show. I just think, oh, I love this. I love everyone involved. I love that we come to work and we get to play and show off other people and what they're doing in the world. There's so much that isn't about us and about others. Or when we do get to do the things we want. We get to be so playful. And I get scared of losing that every day. I mean, part of this job, as you're saying, is just sort of opening up your life and being honest and sharing. And I guess that comes with the territory. I was interviewing a couple of weeks ago for this show, Kelly Clarkson.

And she was saying, like, on that first meeting, like you're talking about developing the show, they had a bunch of things on a board. Are you comfortable with talking about this, then? She's like, I'm comfortable with all of it, but now she was saying, look, I got divorced a few months ago. And if I'm honest about talking about everything, I got to talk about that too. So do you feel like you're comfortable with your life just being open? I mean, it's been open for a while. We've watched you grow up. But do you feel comfortable with that side of it?

I don't think I would have been able to talk about it as openly at first because I couldn't make sense of it. And if I even spoke about it, I would have just become a blubbering. I really did not take divorce well. I took it really hard. Even now, I'm just like, oh, it's such a painful thing. But the good news is that his family and I sort of made the most important choice to be so together and united and connected. And if that one thing that was probably the most painful thing not to work, how did everything else still work around it?

And how did we stay that beautifully loyal unit that we were? That's, I guess, what they call family. And I didn't have a lot of experience with that. And I was sort of one of the loudest voices of like, we're a family. And there is blood. And these are your, you know, these are your granddaughter. and you are my parents and not in law. I don't care what we want to call it. They call me their daughter. And I know from not growing up with any family whatsoever that that was the last thing

I wanted to do for my daughters. I think that's why I took it so hard was like, oh, the ultimate promise I wanted to make with you and for you was to have this amazing family. And I found them. And there's something not working that isn't livable. How tragic is that? And it just took me down for years, but we never weren't in rhythm and in sync and together. We would still spend Christmas and Mother's Day. And as far as the girls were concerned, we just moved forward. And I mean, now Coco, his mom, my kids' grandmother is, you know, dealing with my feet up on the counter.

Like, we're all utterly ourselves. And we have found our way. but I wouldn't I wouldn't have been able to talk about it because I didn't understand so many things. I just felt I just felt so lost that this one element overwhelmed all the things that were working. And I just felt guilty and sad. I don't think I could have talked about it because I couldn't have made sense of it. So I admire anyone. I talked about it in that sense of like, yes,

this happened to me, but I don't think I could have made any sense of it. It took me five years to be able to speak with strength, articulation, perspective, hindsight, and see everything we did right because when we were getting divorced, it felt like everything was just wrong. And it was, it was hard. I'm sure. Thank you for sharing that. I was watching your interview with Kathy Lee, I guess, last week. And it just struck me because I wasn't ready for the moment, I guess. She said something about, you know, will I find love again? Because obviously her husband, Frank, died a couple of years ago. And something just hit you. What was that? What were you feeling there? I was, I thought that applied to me. I think it applies to everyone who thinks

that something will be forever. And it's not. It's so hard. It's like, I don't think I've recovered from that. I don't know how to open that up again. It's like something closed and it stayed closed. But I have Douglas, so I'm good. No, it's, I mean, it really does. Like, I like that Kelly Clarkson said, you know, she talked about,

I'm a human being. Yeah. And because of people's job description, for some reason you probably have executives saying, well, you speak about these things or people hoping you'll speak about it publicly. And it just takes time to be able to discuss it because you've got to figure it out for yourself.

At least I did. This is not a projection on Kelly at all. But it's funny. I mean, it's like once you process something also that takes five years and you figure out and you put one foot in front of the other, I don't know why, but like sort of the last temptation I have is to re-go through that.

Sure. So I'm like, I think I'm equally as scared to find love again as I would be as if it never happened. I'm sort of still in the middle of like, I don't know. I like love with a partner is just, it's still really intimidating to me. Hey guys, thanks for listening to the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Stick around to hear more from Drew Barrymore right after the break. Welcome back to the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Now more of my conversation with Drew Barrymore.

We have mutual friends who talk about you as a mom, Olive and Frankie, say you're just the best. You're an unbelievable. Really? Yeah, that you're just an unbelievable, loving, caring mom who teaches them kindness and all of the right things. That makes me so happy. Because people wonder what she really like

and you get to hear it from people who know you. So how are they? enjoying mom's new job. How do they like Mama's talk show host, this life? They're really, like, cool with things. And when they were young and people would come up and they would ask for time with me, it would scare them and intimidate them.

And I would say, do you guys, hang on one second, I would say to the person, do you guys mind, I just need to take care of my kid right now? But if they were ever rude to people, I would say to that person, excuse me, and I would turn to them and say, you're first always, but we can't be rude to people if that's okay. Like, that is important. So it was interesting because when they were younger,

this whole life of mine didn't sit as well with them. And now it's the exact opposite. It like years later, they grew and they watched the movies and they come to set and they know I play characters and they love all the hair and makeup. And they're happy that I work and they love coming. to work and they enjoy when people come up and talk unless they're having a moment and then I will always put them first. But I think like divorce, my life to them, I thought it was a bad thing because it didn't sit well with them. It scared them when people came up to them and us. And like divorce,

things fell into place finally. And I will say that the same thing happened when I was a kid and I was like blacklisted in an institution and unhireable, we get in these ruts in our life that we think that will be our narrative forever. And it does change. It takes a lot of work and a lot of effort, but we can write these new chapters and we can write ourselves in to a new time and space and a new life. And it has to be an agreement with those around you that you love. But it's amazing that like my kids and I are happy because there's been a lot of times I really did question like will we be happy and we are so that like chokes me up I guess I'm just really emotional too maybe I'm just a big like I am I'm a lot of person you know what I last time we spoke in an interview

I think it was about two and a half years ago you said you had two rules with them you have to be nice and you have to be safe. That's it. Same rules still apply. I was going to ask you, is that still same rules? Yeah. My kids are like into swearing right now. Frankie, that's like her thing.

But she, I'm like, time and place, if I ever get a phone call from your school. Yes. Or a friend's parents, there will be consequences like you've never known. But, you know, she's exercising that like, you know, naughtiness right now and wants to watch Titanic. and all these things. I'm just like, okay, who are you? This is so cool. But yeah, for me, you know,

and Olive has the slime everywhere and every carpet. And it's just, I want to just scream sometimes, but I know she's this tactile intense, like kid. And I'm like, this is soothing to you. I've got to just, we have a billion animals. I have a bearded dragon and a bird and cats and dogs and fishes and lizards and chickens. But I'm like, that's just not my battle. It's still like,

you cannot be rude to people and you have to keep yourself safe. And those are just the two biggest things. And they have umbrellas to them for sure, but I still have the exact same battles. And I just love them so much. And, you know, in so many ways, like, that's the relationship I'm in, which I know can sound weird because they're so different than being with a partner and your children. But I've also like spent a lot of my life like figuring out relationships with men, I'm okay to put that away for a while and figure out like my relationships with my daughters and work and all of that. It's refreshing for me. And I know that like one day that will shift. Things change and everything you said like you look like an idiot for having said it because none of it's true anymore. So,

but my girls are happy. I'm happy. I feel really lucky also just to have a job right now. And this is an incredible job. And the fact that we're all here in the studio working is something I just don't lose sight of on a daily basis. And I know what it's like to not be able to work. And so I will never lose sight of that fear, which probably plays into me thinking this job is going to go away at any second. But we're very lucky and we're like happy over here. And we want to bring that happiness to people.

and provide it and share it in a very unself-important way. We want to have fun here. And like, energy is energy. Maybe that is what we want to create here is just good energy. I totally agree. I've such gratitude for my job right now, given where we are, that I feel even like a deeper obligation to work hard and do well.

You know what I mean? There's just something about this moment right now. I completely do. And I, you do work so hard. I see you every morning, you know, because I watch the news every morning and I watch your specials. And I know, and I see you on Today Show. I'm always, I don't know how I watch as much as I do, but I do.

I'm watching everything. And you do work so hard. And I'm glad that you feel that way. And it's soothing to hear because I feel like we are supposed to know how fortunate and what a privilege every single thing is in all of our lives that have anything to do with, you know, occupation or family or health and everything in between. Absolutely. Before I let you go, you mentioned SNL.

It's the ultimate compliment to be spoofed that soon in your run. And it says such good things about you that you invited Chloe on your show so that you could do Drew Barrymore to your face. What was that like? My biggest fear with Chloe Feynman is that she's going to know how much I love her and not be interested in, like, touching me as a, you know, an impersonation anymore. That's actually my biggest fear is why I was like, should I stay away? So she'll keep going with this. Because I actually think, and I'm, as much as I'm a goof and a spas, I'm really business-minded. And I love being business-minded. And when I look at her doing that, I think, yes, that is a very smart platform for you.

This is a talk show where you can be any guest you want. So not only is a, this one impression, but it's limitless impressions for her. And I think she found a very perfect platform. So I hope she keeps doing it because her displaying her talent is something like, if I have anything to do in supporting, I give it up to her. I really, really think. And I think S&L comes out, you know, with bringing women into our lives, like Kristen Wigg and Kate McKinnon and everyone from Gilda Radner and everyone in between.

I mean, Tina Fey and Amy Polar, like, these women become these set pieces in our life for joy. And I think Chloe Feynman is really exceptional and has a big opportunity in front of her. I really do. She has got the goods. I'm actually just happy she knows who I am, really. And by the way, nailed it. It's so true. She really has me down.

As I'm like, yeah. Now you're doing her impersonation. of you. I just, I love her. And I thought, I couldn't wait to come and talk to everyone on the show, you know, on Monday after that. It was like, we're here in this presence of an institution. I is so important. So I'm really, really excited about it. And I'm just glad people know we're here. You know, there's a lot of stuff out there. There's tons of channels, tons of content. The world is crazy right now. Everyone has a priority of what they need to focus on. People are taking care of their families in ways they never have. If we can fit in

and fit into anyone's space in life right now in a good way, a positive way, perfect, or funny way. Funny is everything. Amen to that. I also want to give a shout out to your crew who's there with you right now. The technical stuff you guys are doing, some of those interviews I didn't realize the guests, whether it was Cameron or Tom or whoever it is sitting, I thought they were in studio with you and they weren't. I can't even begin to wrap my head around how they're doing that. You guys are incredible. Thank you. I really wanted to go technological. Again, I would have never done any of these things a year and a half ago when we started talking about this show in 2019. It was all this year that has really made me evolve as a human being on every single level,

as it's asked us to do. But for the show, I thought tech, which is just not in my wheelhouse normally. So thank you for saying that. You get good people around you. Well, Drew, I'm so proud of you and so happy for you. You're doing great. And you were made for this.

You're putting out the signal and people are loving it. Congratulations. Thank you. From you, especially, that means so much to me because you are just an important, you know, person for all of us. Like when I see you, I feel a sense of safety and your intelligence, and I love your, thank you for having me on.

I can't believe I'm on a Willie Geist like interview. I'm like, really? You're a repeat guest, by the way. There's a short list of two-timers. You're on it. Well, I will two-time any time for you. That doesn't sound right, but you know what I mean. I will double down.

I will drink this giant barrel of happiness. Thank you, Willie. Cheers for having me on. I'm honored. Thank you. Thank you. So cheers. My big thanks again to Drew for a great conversation.

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I'm Willie Geist. We'll see you right back here next week on the Sunday Sit Down podcast.