Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist - Jamie Lee Curtis on Finding Purpose and Reimagining Her Future in Hollywood

Episode Date: December 7, 2025

Jamie Lee Curtis is an Academy Award and Emmy winning actress, author, and producer best known for Everything Everywhere All at Once, the Halloween franchise and her acclaimed guest role in The Bear. Curtis sits down with Willie Geist to discuss her late career hot streak, embracing aging and authenticity, and her role as Aunt Helen in James L. Brooks’s new film Ella McCay. Plus, she reflects on the woman who first saw her potential, the hustle behind building her Comet Pictures production company, and why she believes the most important moments in life hinge on a few unexpected seconds. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey guys, Willie Geist here with another episode of the Sunday Sit Down podcast. My thanks, as always, for clicking and listening along. Got a really fun one for you today with the one and only Jamie Lee Curtis. We can call her Academy Award winner after she won the Oscar a few years ago for her performance in everything everywhere all at once. She's also now an Emmy winner for her performance in the hit show The Bear. How to set up this interview. We're all over the place in the best way. So Jamie and I sat down. We caught up for a while. Things you need to know as we start our conversation. We were talking about how she, of course, comes from very, very famous parents, the Hollywood actors Janet Lee from Psycho and Tony Curtis. So she was talking about how oftentimes people would ask immediately about her parents. My father, Bill Geist, was a longtime correspondent at CBS. So we were talking about how every once in a while people will come up and just ask about your parents, which is kind of cool. We also have a

mutual friend, the great historian John Meacham, who was a professor at Vanderbilt University, and a big fan of Jamie Lee's husband, the great Christopher guest. Why am I telling you all this? Because I think as we start the interview, it's important for you to know these details. Just a great conversation about ostensibly her new movie Ella McKay. She plays Aunt Helen in this movie. She'll talk about that. But before we even get to the movie, we talk about her life and her career and this incredible hot streak that she's on right now. She started when she was 19 years old. Her first movie was Halloween. And just a couple of years ago, they did the last Halloween. Halloween ends. So it was something in her life for 40-some years. Everything she's done up until now

and just having this moment at this point in her life and her career with that Oscar, with that Emmy, all the good things coming her way and so well deserved. She is a force of nature, as you will hear in this interview. So just sit back, relax, and enjoy Jamie Lee Curtis on the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Jamie, I feel like you and I have already done an entire interview. We have. We've covered all the important stuff, the American Revolution. John Meacham. John Meacham.

His love for my husband. You're a love for my husband. Yes, mutual. Also, the feeling that we share of having people look over our shoulder for someone else. For someone else, our parents, very much our parents. We get that. We've bonded over these important topics. And yet at the same time,

and I'm sure you feel this way. We all wake up, every human wakes up and looks in the mirror every morning. And we are our own cheerleaders. We are our own motivators. We are, like, nobody wakes up with people going, looking in the mirror with you, going like, you can do it, Willie.

You've got an, you know, it's like the character in Ella McKay, which is the, movie I'm here to talk about, but ultimately her giving Ella, Aunt Helen being that person saying, I really believe in you. I'm sure you had people say that to you. Absolutely. But at the same time, you have to wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and understand you, you hold the key to your future. You have to put yourself in the path of your future. It's not going to come find you just by sitting on your phone. And sometimes in Aunt Helen, whoever that is in your life,

though, can give you the courage to step into that path if you had doubts about it. Did you have someone like that? Sure. No, but like a specific person who really? Well, I would say professionally, yes. People who said you can go, I was a producer before I was ever on the air. Oh, that's interesting.

And there were people who said, you should go out there and host the show at a and ball morning. And I said, what are you talking about? I'm not, this is who I am. They go, no, I think you could also be that. sometimes it takes someone else maybe telling you that to go and give it a shot even if you had it in the back of your mind. And then there are always people, family members who say, you should go do that. My wife is, I mean, it's an obvious answer, but go for it. Go do that.

You know, that kind of cheerleading and support and courage, don't you find in your relationships? Yeah, I did not have, I mean, my people were all nice to me, but there was nothing, there wasn't any sense of that. But I did, there was a friend of my mothers who was a novelist, lived quite a long time. I don't even know how I knew her. Her name was Gwen Davis. She wrote sort of sexy books like Jacqueline Suzanne novels. She was very smart, went to Bryn Mare, brilliant woman, a playwright novelist, and wrote comedy books also. She had a very wry sense of humor.

I don't know how I knew her. I don't know how my mom knew her. But she was in my mom's circle. She was the only person in my life who ever looked at me and said, I see you, Jamie. I see you. I see that you are smart. I see that you're clever. See that you're funny.

I see that you're like really observant and aware of everything. I see that you're kind. Like she saw it. I see that you're spiritual. I see that you have a center. And there was no evidence of that. I wasn't good in school. I wasn't.

Nothing distinguished me as a kid. I was cute. I had a lot of energy. But I probably have some learning issue. I was really a terrible student. Just wasn't, I didn't excel at anything, not in sports, not in creative world. You know what I mean?

I went to camp. You know what I mean? I loved making lanyards. And I loved people. I loved people. But I was really not definable. And to have her actually look at me and say, I see you in there.

You're very smart. That gave me some glimmer of like, really? Huh. And it has, stayed with me. And I stayed friends with, she was tough and nutty and a complicated woman. But I stayed friends with her, her whole life because of that gift, because that gift changed my life. And to think you remember that sitting here today, that's how important it was.

How old were you, a young girl at that point? Teenager. A teenager. You know, I just, when you're a teenager and you're trying to figure it out, and somebody says that you exist, because it's always, isn't that what the Internet is? It's just about existing. Like we all are trying to say, I exist, I exist. See me. Look at me. Look at me.

I exist. I exist. This is what I wear. This is what I eat. This is where I go. This is what I do. And when you're a teenager in a world where that isn't, doesn't exist and you're not pretty. You know, that's why the Janice Ian song at 17 slays me.

Because she's speaking about how I felt. Now, she's speaking about a very specific lifestyle that wasn't not mine. Like her life is very different than mine. But a great documentary on her, by the way, Janice Ian. fantastic. But I wasn't pretty the way those girls were pretty, and I didn't. I wasn't an athlete the way, you know, we give a lot of props and flowers to people who excel in their youth.

And I didn't have that. And so Gwen's appreciation of me and confidence in me gave me confidence. And were you not getting that from your own parents because they were busy and being movie stars? No, no, they weren't movie stars by then. They weren't movie. They were old movie stars by then wanting. You know, it's a hard, I don't know, I don't know your, we don't know each other. So I don't know your history. I don't know. Did your father stop getting to do the job he loved? You retired from it. Self-retired. Yes. Okay. Actors don't self-retire. They just become redundant. They just become irrelevant.

So when you're a movie star at the level that my parents were and you lose, your fame exists, but the work that gave you the fame is gone, it's heartbreaking. And I watched it my whole life. Because that's all they wanted was to be able to do the thing that. love to do. So it wasn't like I had, I watched my parents be movie stars. I watched them be famous people, but I didn't actually watch them do the work very much. By the time I was conscious, they were no longer actively working. And, you know, it's a sad, it's a rough business. And as you said, your dad retired.

I think actors, I've tried to self-retire. Heidi will make, I may have probably claimed retirement four times, specifically because I want to get out before you no longer ask me to be in. I just don't want to have the same sad feeling of the FOMO. of missing out on the thing that gave me my life force, which was my work, I wanted to go like, okay, I'm done, I'll be done. And then I can leave on my own, you know. Your own terms.

Terms. Yeah. And yet, you keep coming back. Apparently. And by the way, not just coming back, but thriving. You're on a hot streak right now. I think you know. So what's different?

Oh, I'm highly aware. What? I am highly aware. What have you done differently or maybe learn from your parents to keep this going? Nothing. Well, oh, that's not true. That's not true. Well, first of all, I've learned nothing, meaning nothing I have done actively has generated

the amount of work I'm doing now. There is no formula for this. I was lucky because my vanity was not my meal ticket. My parents were both known first and foremost for being beautiful, both of them. Beautiful, like jaw-droppingly, beautiful humans and talented. So that's an intoxicating combo platter, right? beautiful and talented. And both of them rode the beautiful and talented wave for a long time.

Neither one of them wanted to acknowledge the deep, dark, truthful mirror of aging. And so they both tried to fend it off. I have embraced it fully. And I think that may be the secret key is I don't give a shi. Like ultimately now, I just, I won an Oscar in a part where vanity was gone on that movie. There was no, there wasn't a mirror insight. It was about something else. And it allowed that work to come out.

So all of a sudden my vanity part doesn't exist. That's like when Sean came in to, like, touch my hair, like, ah! You recoiled. I recoiled because I don't. That's just not my life. I don't. I appreciate his care. I like a nice haircut.

But I just don't, you'll notice I'm not looking in a mirror. It's not like I'm sitting here going like, what's light? Other people's job. My job is to go in. And so I think the secret to difference is that I've been allowed to do that. Because by the way, Tony Curtis was a producer, did have a production company, was an example to me. I saw that he tried to produce. You know, Kirk Douglas was a great example to him, my dad and my mom.

My mom never wanted to be a creative person like that in show business. Both of them wrote books. I write books, but I write books for children. They wrote books about their lives. I'm not going to write a book about my life. I'm writing, I write books about young children. Not my children, but I write books for young children about things. So, you know, we parallel there, but I now get the opportunity because I put myself in the path of it.

I literally stepped in front of Jason Blum. I swear and said, hey Jason, you know you never told me it was a trilogy of Halloween movies. Funny that you would omit that when we first met. And I made the first movie. So funny. Ha ha. Aren't you clever? Listen, since I, you need me now for two more Halloween movies. Because it's a trilogy, because he didn't mention it. How about you give me a little production deal? And I'm sure Jason Blum, he said it publicly, was like, okay, I'll give Jamie a vanity deal

because I want her to do two more Halloween movies for me. And I'm sure most vanity deals don't go very far. You know, an actor comes in with a couple ideas for things, and they're like, yeah, we're not going to make that. the first thing I brought him was the lost bus. So the first thing, the first call I made to him, once I had a deal for a little company, Comet Pictures, which I will tell you the story of which we'll laugh. But when that happened, I called Jason Blum after I heard the NPR story on Scott Simon,

where Lizzie Johnson was the guest talking about her book, Paradise, the story of this horrific wildfire, having read it in the Washington Post the day before, and me saying out loud, well, that's the movie story, the bus driver and the teacher, that's the story. There's the movie. Didn't do anything. The next day, heard it on an NPR, pulled my car over on the side of the road, picked up the phone, called Jason Blum, said, Jason, I want to buy this book. It's called Paradise. It's the story of Kevin McKay and Mary Ludwig. It's going to be expensive. It's going to be a very important film for you and I to make. And he agreed, and we did. So, like, the first thing I brought him was a movie that became a Paul Greengrass, Matthew McConaughey, America for our Apple,

big, incredibly important film to tell about the wildfire in Paradise California in 2018. And very successful, too. Very successful. Yes. That was the first thing I brought Jason Blum. The second thing I brought him was the Patricia Cornwell book series about Dr. K. Skarpetta, who's a medical examiner in Virginia, and it had never been brought to the screen. I'm a friend of Patricia's, and I brought Jason Blum and his company those books, and that's a new TV series for Amazon starring Nicole Kidman as Dr. K. Skarpetta, and I'm in it also as her sister, but that's a show I'm also producing. So the first two things I brought Jason Blum were the lost bus and Scarpetta. This was not a vanity production house.

Well, what I'm saying is I put myself in the path of it. Right. It has become a viable, living, breathing, thriving, surviving, and living, entity on its own. The reason it's called Comet Pictures, you're going to laugh. Swear, I was shooting true lies with Arnold Schwarzenegger. We were in Florida, in the Keys, and his trailer, was right opposite mine, and his trailer door was always open. He was always, always open.

And one day, it was lunchtime, Jamie Lee, come in, have lunch. So I, you know, I climbed upstairs. And he was sitting having Musley or something. And there was a basket of Christie's catalogs. Oh. Like, next to the captain's chair that I was sitting in. And I, you know, we're just, talking and I picked up this thing and I opened it up and I will send you the picture. I have it on my phone. So I opened this magazine and there was an art deco sculpture. So it's like that art deco thing of a comet, like a woman comet. And I said to him, hey, can I.

I have this page? Can I tear the page out of this? He said, sure. Why? I said, if I ever have a production company, I'm going to call it Comet Pictures, and I'm going to use that as the logo. Now, I didn't ultimately use it as a logo. I used a logo, which is a photograph of my youngest daughter pointing up at a meteor shower that I took, and we animated it as my logo. But I named my production company while shooting true lies, comet pictures. And I have the picture of the comet like that I ripped out. I still have the piece of paper. That's 30 years before you have the production companies.

It's got to be like 93, 94. I put myself in the path. Yes. You saw something there. Put myself in the path. Hey, guys, thanks for listening to the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Stick around to hear more from Jamie Lee Curtis right after the break. Welcome back now more of my conversation with Jamie Lee Curtis.

So being in the path, which you very much are right now, you're talking about behind-the-scenes production for the most part, but you win an Academy Award for everything everywhere all at once. You win an Emmy for the Bear. Yes. I watched the Christmas episode again this morning. It's one of the most... It's fantastic.

Fantastic, intense episodes of anything I've ever seen. Yeah, it's a beautiful, harrowing, a little drop of deep reality that I think many people related to. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was reading Chris Storrh, who writes the show. He was talking about you in that episode and said, I needed chaos.

And he said, Jamie Lee came in, and she dipped her hands in that butter and started putting them on the baguettes. And I said, we got it. Well, what's fascinating about the work we do, it's, you know, I don't know each other. I walked in here, you know. Now, the truth is, if we were acting in a show as a husband and wife, I might have just walked in the first day of work, said hi to the crew, and then sat down with you and did a scene together at a restaurant pretending to be husband and wife. That's our job. It's to be immediately intimate. Right. that experience, I didn't know anybody. I didn't know one of those people. I walked into that house. It was a real house in Chicago. I was in a hotel by myself, in my room by myself, with all those words looking at them. I got in a van that didn't say the bear because they didn't want to,

they put another name on the vans because of all the guest stars. They didn't want people knowing that Bob Odenkirk and Sarah Paulson and, you know, John Mullaney were going to be in the bear. So it had some other bullshit name on the side of the van, picked up strangers meeting the hair and makeup wardrobe. Hi, hi, hi, hi. Got Donned and walked onto a set and literally walked through and went, hi, I'm Jamie. Hi, Jamie. Hi, nice to meet you. Hi, Jamie.

Okay, great. And then Chris was like, okay, let's roll. That it was like that quick. Wow. And it's like a grenade is rolled into the room. It is a grenade. It's incredible. And it's the power of the writing.

And obviously the power of the coordination. It's a beautiful dance of camera sound, lighting, you know, acting. It's, it's, it's a yummy soup, but it's intense. and then it's over. Yeah, that's right. And then it's like an hour later, you kind of walk out of, you're like quivering, and then you're on to something else.

Cominating you, a car, in the house, a couple more shots and credits. I will tell you, I got on the plane on the way home, and I had been there three days, total, and I remember, and I'm an early flyer. I like to get on the early flights, And I remember it was like 6.30 in the morning and I was on a plane home and I remember sitting there going like, what was that? Like did that just happen? Like I really wondered, did that? Was that amazing? Or was that insane? Like I couldn't. I didn't know. Right. And then you live with it by yourself and then all of a sudden, and you don't, you're not allowed to tell anybody. Yeah.

So you didn't say a word to anybody. And then all of a sudden, You know. It worked. Donna. It worked. Incredible character. Incredible. So you put those together, your Oscar, your Emmy, you do Freaky or Friday.

I love that you just like refer to them as mine. They're not mine. They're everybody. All right. Your team, I like that you consider team awards. It's way team awards. I mean, come on. But I mean, it's been like a-

I've decorated them too. Oh, you've decorated the awards? I don't, you know what. You're not precious about it. I can't be. Yeah. Because I'm like, it's impossible. for me to treat that like precious.

So Oscar has a googly eye. Oh. Appropriate. Sure. And I also degendered them. So it's a they-them pin on it. Oh. Because it's sort of a little pin resting on the base.

It says they them. Right. And Emmy has, so Coco store is Chris's sister, who's the food director. And the day we finished the kitchen scene, she gave me a pair of boxing gloves painted in the Italian flag, little leather boxing gloves, saying that I was now an official Italian. And they're hanging on the Emmy along with a little bear.

I have a little stuffed bear that was one of the bears that I gave the children. And a cigarette lighter that had Donna's name that my friend Suzanne Yankovic gave me for Donna. and I called Chris and I said, my friend Suzanne Yankovic just gave me one of those flip lighters, you know, the silver. Yeah, oh yeah. I don't know what they're called. What are they called?

Zippo? Zippo. Zippo. Like a Zippo lighter. But it had been engraved. She got it on eBay. That it had been engraved with the name Donna. And I called Chris, I said,

how about that Donna's father gave that to Donna on her 18th birthday? Oh, yeah. And so it's in episode four when she's lighting the cigarettes. She's lighting it with the lighter that says Donna. And that's also on the Emmy. I love that. It's like a little talisman's little... Yes.

It's a little bit of an altar. A little bit of like an offering of many factors. Not in a glass case with uplighting. No, no, it's not, yes. There's no uplighting. No. But what is this moment when you put all... these things together have happened just in the last two years, and including the movie we're

about to talk about. It's okay. Freak-Yer-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-Bat. We've got you. Don't worry. Sarah, you're going to be fine, right? Sarah's literally right now going like... Yes. She's like, what are we doing? She's like, what are we talking about? No, she's not. We'll get there. No, she's actually looking at her phone. But what does this moment feel like if you throw in Freak-Yer Friday, Halloween ends, which is a CODA to that... Big time. Forty-some year project of yours. What does this moment feel like in your career? Perfect. Honestly, there's nothing about it that isn't just feeling perfect. I'm so happy it's happening now, like at my age.

I'm excited about the future. I have opportunities now. I'm still putting myself in the path. I'm still trying to hustle. I love a good hustle. I love hustle. I love it. I love sweat equity. I like to get sweaty. I like to feel like I'm doing it. And I really mean it that I watched my parents. It's like if you're in a car in a rearview mirror and you're looking at what you used to do and you're driving away and you aren't able to do it anymore. They just don't let you do it. it had an impact on me.

And the truth is, I have a good family life. I have adult children. I have creative life. I write books. I'm sober. I have a big, sober community. I'm, like, very involved. I'm philanthropic.

I have charitable work. I love that I do. I get to participate as a good human doing good works. I'm trying to, you know, get a little. louder about the state of affairs. Excuse the pun. You know what I mean. So I'm trying to make sure that I check my boxes off before I go. But I'm having a really good time. And it's awesome. Stick around for more of my conversation with Jamie Lee Curtis right after a quick break. Welcome back now to the rest of my conversation with Jamie Lee Curtis.

I love that you say there's still a lot in front of me. A lot. And you've got clearly, I mean, with what you're doing in production. I have. I mean, you're doing a lot. I have some TV series that I'm trying to develop that I will not be in, that I just want to produce. I have another children's book that I'm going to work on. I have, again, philanthropic work I'm going to try to do.

There's a movie I'm going to do next year. Scarpeda season two, we start shooting in March. It's, you know, it's good. And the reason I am in New York wearing a Poinsettia plant version of a suit is because I got a letter sent to me by James L. Brooks. I've had two times.

Now, I have had two times. Someone called me, like, one time my phone rang, hello, and it was John Cleese. And I thought John Cleese was calling to, like, basically, go, can you introduce me to your husband? The same way John Meacham called me. It was like, hi, it's John Meacham. Hi, John Meacham.

Hey, listen, could I talk to Chris? Oh, sure, hold on. You know, anyway, so John Cleese called me and said, hi, I've written a movie for you, me, Kevin Klein, and Michael Palin. And I was like, oh, okay. So that happened. Jim Cameron called me at my house one day, and I picked up the phone. Hi, Jamie, it's James Cameron. What's up?

Like, what? and he said, I've written a movie for you and Arnold Schwarzenegger that I'd like you to do. So I've had this happen. Neither one of those people were people that I had sat at home going, oh, I hope John Cleese calls me one day, or I hope Jim Cameron calls me one day. I mean, the movies Jim had made were like scary things,

and I'm not, I don't like those kind of things. And, you know, Terminator, you know what I mean? Like, it's just not, I'm not into it. So it wasn't. Right. But Jim Brooks, Jim Brooks made terms of endearment. He made broadcast news.

He made as good as it gets. He makes the movies that I love. About people. Complicated, challenging, funny, heartbreaking, human, flawed people. And he puts them into a situation that is political and thoughtful and timely and demanding of attention. So he's one of those people who my whole life, I'm 67, I've been an actress since I was 19.

My whole life, I thought, someday I'll get to work with Martin Scorsese, James Ella Brooks, you know, Francis Ford Coble. There are directors whose work I just love. And for people watching who don't know, Mary Tyler Moore, taxi, the list is just outrageous. The Simpsons. The Simpsons. The Simpsons. He's responsible for the Simpsons. Yes. So what happens?

So I get a letter delivered to my house says Jamie Lee Curtis from Jim Brooks. And the letter says, Dear Jamie Lee, I've worked on this. script forever. We shoot in the fall. I'd love you to be Helen. I direct much better than a handwrite Jim. Wow. Did you have any sense that was coming? Not a clue. So, and then there was an email with the script, because I was traveling. Come on. There's the ticket. So, for me, that it didn't matter what it was. It really didn't matter. I was. I was.

I was like, that's crazy, thrilling. And it turns out to be a gorgeous part in a movie where I get to play this beautiful young woman. The movie is called Ella McKay. It's a movie about an idealistic young politician who really believes in the power of public service, helping people that our job as public servants is to help people, versus get rich and and be awful,

which is what politicians look like today. Troll on social media. I mean, it's just awful. Behave abominably cold women slurs. The point is to help people. The point of public service is to help people. She believes in it. And she's from a complicated family.

She has a d'i-father who can't keep, you know, his pants on and therefore has a serial problem with women. She has a, she unfortunately marries a guy who's kind of a... He just is. He just is. Yeah. But she still has the idealistic belief that she can do good in the world. And she has an aunt Helen, because her mom dies very early, her aunt Helen becomes that woman in her life. who believes that she can do good in the world

and believes in her 100%, like full tilt support. And that's the part of Helen McKay is I'm her Aunt Helen. And it's a gorgeous part. Emma Mackey plays Ella McKay, young, beautiful actress, who's going to explode after this movie. And it's just a lovely family, complicated, funny, poignant story about family

being released on December 12th in movie theaters to go to the movies with your family. And it's funny, I was looking at the slate of movies that are out there. And I'm like, what movie are you want to go see with your family? They're great movies.

They look super violent. They look super, super sad. Like crazy sad? Like the last thing I want to do and the holidays is just go see a super sad movie. or do I want to go see a movie that's about family and friendship and fun and funny? And it's a Jim Brooks movie and he wrote it and directed it.

And I'm just thrilled to be a part of it, to be Aunt Ellen in this gorgeous part. It's beautifully written. The cast is amazing. Woody Harrelson's in it. I mean, you can go down the list. He might be playing the father. Maybe my brother in the movie. Jack Loudon, might be the husband.

Julie Kavanaugh. Yes. From the Simpsons. Yeah. Plays Estelle, the secretary. I mean, it's a beautiful cast. Albert Brooks plays the governor and he's hilarious. That's great.

Hillare. It's just a Jim Brooks melange of goodness. So for people watching who don't get what it means to be in a Jim Brooks project, what is the magic of his writing, his directing? Well, it's all writing. So that's why, in a weird way, if you think about it, I mean, from John Cleese, it's the writing. James Cameron, it was the writing. It was funny.

That script was funny. He wrote it. You know, The Bear, writing, everything everywhere all at once. The writing. You know, Jim Brooks, it's the writing, it's the words, it's the idea, it always goes back to the words. He has a way of distilling what's happening into poetry that then you film and you feel. And the filming and feeling happening at the same time with those words coming out of your mouth is just a very singular Jim Brooks experience. And again, I'm just, it's a, the pinch me part of it. I do wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and go like, I don't know, Jim Brooks more. Like, Jim Brooks.

And by the way, he hasn't made a movie in 15 years. 15 years. This is kind of a comeback thing. You know what? He writes you the letter. He wrote me a letter and asked me to play Helen. I just can't. I just, I, this is, this is a treasure like crazy to me.

Like they said, will you bring it? I was like, yes, but I'm going to put it in a very safe bag that Mary Ludwig made me, and I'm going to carry it in my own bag, and I'm not going to, like, because this is really precious to me. That's a framer. I don't know if you. You know what? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I try not to like, like, like, it's just like, I know it exists.

It's for you. It's for me. Yes. And by the way, that's a nice nexus of your worlds, the, the bag. It was made by the teacher or the real life teacher. It's beautiful. With my name on it. It's beautiful.

I know. You're doing great work, Jamie Lee Curtis. It's so nice to talk to you. It's fun talking to you. Congratulations on the film. I'm sorry that we only just met. Well, here we are now. I know.

Our first date was a success. I know. And when you see John Meacham. Oh, I'll see him two days. I know. And you'll talk about my husband and it'll be good. Time to back off a little bit maybe or is it? No, you know what?

I welcome it. You know what? But there's room in my marriage for John Meacham. I'm a big enough woman that I can accept John Meacham into my marriage. There's the PR quote, guys. Let's get that out. Open marriage. Well, for John Meacham, he's welcome into our marriage.

He can just have a bromance with my husband and they can just love on each other and appreciate each other's real talents. and minds and talk about Andrew Jackson. And talk about whatever else comes up in the mention. I can spell Andrew Jackson. Thank you. Thank you. That was great.

Super fun. My big thanks to Jamie Lee for a great, meandering, wonderful conversation. Ella McKay is in theaters on December 12th. My thanks to all of you for listening again this week. If you want to hear more of our conversations with my guests every week, be sure to click follow. so you never miss an episode. And don't forget to tune in to Sunday today every weekend on NBC to see these interviews with your own two eyes. I'm Willie Geist. We'll see you right back here next week

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