Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist - Jeremy Renner

Episode Date: April 28, 2019

At this point, you've probably already seen "Avengers: Endgame," the highly-anticipated twenty-second installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. In this week's Sunday Sitdown, Willie Geist talks to one of the stars of the film, Jeremy Renner, about his role as one of the six original Avengers, Hawkeye. They also talk about the evolution of his career, from Oscar-nominated leading man to new ventures in music and home remodeling.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey guys, Willie Geist here with another episode of the Sunday Sit Down podcast. My thanks as always for clicking and listening along this week. By the time you're hearing this interview, I'm going to say that my guest movie, Avengers Endgame, has pushed its way close to a billion dollars at the box office around the world in its opening weekend. Jeremy Renner plays Hawkeye in the Avengers movies. He's an Academy Award nominated actor who broke through, you'll remember, more than a decade ago, Hurt Locker was nominated the very next year for another Academy Award in the town and has gone on to this big career with the Avengers in a born movies. He's done Mission Impossible. He's been

all over the place. One of the most highly regarded actors in Hollywood, but also one of those guys who can do it all, the big budget stuff, the small movies. This one, Endgame, is the 22nd installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, taken place over a decade. and it's taken the world by storm. Jeremy and I got together here in New York City to talk about his movie career, his youth growing up in Modesto, California with a family that ran a bowling alley. Got to love that. We get into how his games look in these days. Pretty sharp, it sounds like. Being a dad to a six-year-old daughter named Ava, and Bet you didn't know, great musician, big music career. In fact, he has scored the soundtrack to an upcoming animated film in which he also plays the lead character and voices of Fox. a lot going on in the life and the universe of Jeremy Renner right now on the Sunday Sit Down podcast. Thanks for doing this, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me. Before you lay out in great detail the

entire plot for me to end game, which I know you're going to do. Yes, of course it will. Can we talk about your music for a second? I'm serious. I love your music. Yeah. I mean, I knew you dabbled in it. I knew you played music growing up. I know you continued to play it in your free time. Yeah. But this new music where you basically scored a soundtrack. to the animated movie that's coming out. And you have the little documentary film that goes with it. Correct, correct, yeah. Yeah, that's where, you know, music was always something that was just for me as a very personal thing.

And I chose to be an actor instead of a musician. But when the opportunity came, because I was the lead voice in this kid's animated movie, I got the opportunity to do the whole soundtrack musically. So we were able to knock that out. And it was a wonderful. journey, a very quick journey, if you will, so they needed it very quickly. It allowed me to kind of explore that kind of side for me. And the greatest thing, as I was telling you earlier about it, because it keeps me home

with my baby to, if that is work, which I don't consider it work, just like movies aren't work, it's play. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, playing music is play. and said I get a play at home as an artist with my baby at home versus doing a movie usually takes me far away for long periods of time so it ends up being kind of a mutually beneficial thing

when for my daughter for me and then also I get to do something that I've always loved to do since I was a kid so is it fair to say that music is your first love was that the did you start with that artistically yeah yeah yeah I was like 12 I started on drums and then we had, you know, garage bands growing up, you know, in the 80s, and all just for fun, and it kept me out of trouble. And then I wanted to actually songwrites. I moved to piano and guitar and just sort of watch people. I was never, you know, taught or trained in any of those things.

I just wanted to be able to compose and write a song. So I've always done that kind of throughout the years, but not recording it or taking it, you know, like a serious thing. Only in the last three years I've really locked down and started making things happen in the studio. In the doc, you put out the 30 minutes of it, the footage, you can sort of see the process from beginning to end where they say, can you do a song for us?

I guess I can do a song. Can you do six, seven songs for us? And how long did you have to do it? A couple of weeks, right? Yeah, there's a couple weeks. Yeah. So what was that? Why did you want to document that and put it on film?

What are you trying to show? Well, because I'm not sure what the heck was going to happen, man. And so, like, if we're going to pull it off, hey maybe it might be cool to capture it on film that journey and I did it with my buddy Eric Zane so

yeah it has turned out to be something really interesting and really personal music to me is very personal and then the doc is something that's very personal at my own home in my own studio with my best friends and my daughter and that's not something

I typically exposed to anybody and I still am like waffir If I do, the music's definitely coming out, but I always waffle on it being, exposing that personal side of me. Well, it's funny because you kind of hit on that in the dock. You say, this is a way for me to put out music without me putting out music. In other words, you're doing a soundtrack, but it's not. Here's Jeremy Renner's new album.

Right, correct, correct. Yeah, because the music there he wanted was not something that I typically write. It was music I listened to and I love from, they wanted old Motown, they wanted Stevie Wonder, wonder if there's any modern music that it sounds like it's Bruno Mars, where it has a live band feel, a lot of fun. And so it was a departure from things I typically write. So it was great to have that focus to kind of go into that type of songwriting. So are we someday going to see an album from Jeremy Renner? Yeah, well, yeah, I think it's all happening.

The soundtrack will be coming out starting this summer and then rolling out into when the movie comes out in November. And then there's some bleed over what some songs from the soundtrack are and then also what would be something maybe from me. But all I'm going to do, just keep writing, keep recording, and I'm enjoying

it keeps me with my baby, and yes, there'll be stuff that's coming out. There's a song that I did with my buddy, Brandon, who a DJ Sam Phelp, grabbed and did his remix on. And that came out, I believe, last October or something.

So I did my version of that. So I'll probably release that in the next couple weeks, I think, because that's kind of already out there. Otherwise, it'll be stuff from the soundtrack first. How do you describe your sound to people who haven't heard you before?

You know, it's kind of like how do you use words to describe music? I think you have to hear music, right? It's like how do you know. You get the gravelly voice. Well, there's a texture to it. I think it's, yeah, short. I think it's cinematic. It's emotional. It's thoughtful. I can be, if I'm inspired by any

two artists in the last two decades of music, it's probably Adele and Amy Winehouse. And there's connectivity to those artists and music. Music is a wonderful, wonderful tool to unite people because of emotions. Because one thing we all have in common as humans, it doesn't matter what we look like where we're from, what languages speak, we all experience human emotion. And collectively, we experience it through movies and through music. And there's an accessibility that those artists had. And I'm connected to that. So I feel like that's what I might output.

So we'll see, you know. Jeremy Renner as a Dell, I'm trying to put all that together. You know, she's a beautiful, every woman with the, you know, she's a beautiful, every woman with a goddess of a voice, right? But her lyrically has connectivity to anybody, I think that's what makes her so successful. And there's songwriters, she and Amy both in storytellers. Yeah, exactly.

You mentioned loving music because it allows you to be home with your six-year-old daughter. It seems to be a theme when we talk and keep coming back to. The projects that allow you to see your daughter, be home with your daughter, the ones you gravitate toward. Why is that so important to you

as you balanced this career with trying to be home. Because my best role to date is being a daddy. And everything is defined in my life by that. And everything is a distant, distant second to be and my daughter. And that's very, very important to me. And I've also been very blessed to have achieved and do a lot of things in my life. As an artist, as a man, and failed and loved and lost and loved again. But now being a daddy, I can really spend the time that I really want to spend to learn and grow with her.

So that has value to me. You know, it's my limited time on this planet and I want to spend it with her. And so then everything else can kind of fall into place after that. So it's called clarity of intention for me. When you're clear about what you really want, then everything just sort of kind of happens. You know, when you get off course, you know, when you're not on course. She's your compass. She keeps you right here.

Always my compass. You were just telling me, I hope you don't mind me sharing that you, on some jobs where you're in London, you'd fly home to L.A. for like four or five hours just to see your dog. Yeah, yeah. That was a very, very difficult period for me. My life was doing the Second Avengers and the Mission of Possible back to back, both in London. So it was like a year and a half in London. And my baby's nine months old to a year and a half old during that time. And I flew back every other weekend to see her

because that's what I needed to do and that's where I wanted to be. And it was a detriment to my health. I was jet lagged for a year and a half. I was really quite miserable. But I had to do it. I had to do it. It was important to me.

Even there might be, like I said, there might be not conscious memory for her. But certainly she could smell me, to hear my voice. I think we're connected cellularly because of it. It also makes a statement and to myself of my commitment to being a very involved father. And that has a lot of value to me.

Now it's six years old. Does she have a sense for what you do for a living? She's seen billboards and all that? She's been on sets, but I don't think she doesn't, because she hasn't seen any movies that I do. Right, right. She's not really, you know, hit appropriate. She's not watching the town.

You know what I mean? So I haven't done, I haven't done any movies. Yeah, exactly. American Housel. So she can't watch any of the movies, even though she's been on movie sets. But she's seen, I'm on her pajamas, is Hawkeye, right?

Wow, that's huge. She knows that I have a bow and arrow, and she's been on an Avengers set where I'm in costume, and got her interested in archery, so I do teach her archery, and that sort of things, that's awesome. But she really has no clue that I'm,

she sees me on billboards now, because there's everywhere. It's like, well, there's daddy. And how does she process that? There's daddy in that costume or something? I don't know. I just like I'm on her pajamas. I don't know, that's weird, too, right?

So I don't know. She knows me as daddy. And loves me as daddy and that's all that matters, man. Probably gives you a certain level of cred, though, if you're on the pajamas. I think maybe later on, you know, maybe when she's a little older. He's like, hey, remember, Mauckeye? You know, maybe I can use that as part of my tool chest. But right now, I think it's, you know.

It's better that way. It's better than just I'm just daddy. Yeah, exactly. So speaking of Hawkeye, let's talk Endgame here. Yeah. The buildup and the anticipation is unlike maybe anything I've ever seen. The projections for the movie, what it's going to do, the fans speculating about what's going to happen. Yeah.

What's it like to be at the center of these sort of cultural phenomenon of the moment? You know, it's hard to quantify that. It's taken 10 years and 21 films to end up to tell this story of endgame. And I have not seen all those films. And it's a, it's, it's nothing, it's never been done before. And the, now knowing seeing the movie, it's, I couldn't be more pleased. I can just put that how I can speak about endgame. But there's nothing, there's nothing that's like it.

It's weird because, you know, I was talking to you earlier about, like, we just got our hands and feet put in concrete. I remember when I first moved to Los Angeles, like, 1993. I remember going to the Chinese Man Theater, and you'd see, like, you know, all the Star Wars people, all the hands and feet and the signatures and all that stuff. And, like, wow, that just happened to us, you know, we did the Six Avengers and Kevin Feigy. And it's just, you know, that's also hard to quantify and put into words what that means. It's a, it's an honor. It's a whole lot emotionally to take. It's a wonderful feeling,

really wonderful feeling. The way Luke Skywalker and those guys. Well, to you, you are to some other generation. That's a wild thought, I have to imagine. So he's Hawkeye. I know you can't get in any detail about what happens to him in the movie, and I know you're going to see it as a bow and arrow.

He's got a bow and arrow. Thank you. I'll be able to react you on that answer. I'm not taking that answer. He's got a new haircut? You got a new haircut? And he's got a bow and he's got a bow and? Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you.

So as we come into the movie, though, without getting into the movie itself, where do we find Hawkeye just to refresh people's memories? He was on vacation, I guess. It's, I wish I could say. It's the, yeah, you'll find out before the opening credits. I can say that. Before the opening credits. I can say that. That sounds like some breaking news,

about as far as we're going to get to breaking news. Something happens before the opening credits. Yeah. We'll take it. Yeah. You know, there's movies. They always have something in the beginning and something at the end.

Yeah. You know, little Easter eggs and little treats. Yeah. Okay. All right, we're getting somewhere here. And then what happens after that? Lots of good stuff. There's some bows and arrows and there's some Avengers in there somewhere.

You were telling me a minute ago that you shoot two movies at once effectively. For those two. For those two. And you were in Endgame, they were shot together at the same time. And you didn't really know which scenes were for which movie. That's by design from the directors and the producers? I assume so, yeah. I think they were trying to figure it all out.

Kind of as they were going, they had a lot figured out, but then there's a lot of moving parts. Obviously, just looking at Infinity War itself. that was a giant undertaking and like you have to end that you know I guess we had to start killing people

or something it's the weirdest thing you know they but I never knew what section of what part I never knew the scope of the movies I just knew

you know I knew to know anything really I just everybody's like has their own specific part of an engine it takes even a spark plug like if a spark plug doesn't gap properly

the engine is not going to run. So everyone has a very, very important part to get that whole Marvel engine running. And so every part has to be on point. And that's all I focused on, whether I was a spark plug or whatever I was, is to be that cog on the wheel

and focus on that. And that's all of us could focus on. We were all just as surprised after seeing the movie two nights ago, was it? I don't remember. It's a little foggy. But it was from the first,

From the first Avengers, it was like we were not even ever in that movie. We're watching it as fans. Right. Because there's so much VFX, mind you, right? That's a whole other part of this filmmaking world that the vistas they create and the characters they create. That's all brand new to us, you know? You look at the Hulk. The Hulk is, you know, it's Mark Ruffalo in tights, checker checker tights, you know what I mean?

Yeah. And then it's very different when it's on the screen. So it's all. brand new for us. So we're just as much fans of it as anybody else. It's really exciting. We just can't believe we're in this. This is so weird. It's awesome. As you hit the end

game here and you look back now on your run, can you talk about what it's meant to your life and your career to be a part of something that's so popular and that is so understood whether you live in New York City or China. Right. Around the world, people get what's happening on that screen. Yeah. You know, there's two things that that I take away from it, or three, really,

is my friendships of a lot of people, but specifically the original Six Avengers, how much time has been spent with them, and there's been marriages and divorces and lots of kids being made over this last decade. And that will last eternally, you know, more than this, longer than this movie will last for us. But then there's, specifically for me

that the character, playing a superhero with no superpowers, has been so awesome. Because that's what I get to ultimately tell kids out that they're also a superhero. Because you don't have to have a hammer and fly around and have lightning. You can just have a strong will and strong mind, a strong heart, and fortitude and persistence to achieve whatever you want in life. And that's you're a superhero. So it sends a really lovely message of also what a very obtainable superpower could be.

And I love that. And I always love that about my character. a high skill set that he has, right? And then I love, you know, the kids, man. I always love kids. I'm the oldest of seven. And there's nothing greater than, you know, my daughter running in and seeing him give me a hug,

but also just kids being, you know, just lit up. And that's a lovely, lovely feeling. It's a lovely, lovely feeling. You were obviously well-known in movies before this. Yeah, but kids would probably run from me prior. Those are very different roles. Yeah, exactly. So what has it done to your life personally, just to be so well known,

not just for being a great actor in movies like you talked about the town and American Hustle and Hurt Locker, but just to be a known commodity and a known face wherever you go? It's been a slow sort of growth just in my entire career. someone, you know, saying, hey, you look familiar. Did I go to high school with you? Like, oh, I saw you in that movie.

I just don't know your name. Then they know your name and your thing. Now you're on pajamas. And then you're on a thing. And then you go to China. You go to different parts of the world. And everyone knows everything kind of about you, you know. It's a, it's a wonderful thing.

I use that as a blessing for other things I can do in my life. And I keep my private life private. And, you know, I just understand growing out in public is a different thing than it is for other people. And so there's some drawbacks that kind of come to it. But there's more blessings than drawbacks. So I just focus on the blessings. And the pajamas.

The blessings. And the pajamas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. You talked about being the oldest of seven. Yeah.

up in Modesto. Yeah. What was your house like with you and all those kids? Well, it was mostly women. My mom, my two sisters. And then my dad, my parents got divorced, and he started having babies, different, you know. So it's mostly mostly I grew up with some really badass women.

And they made me the badass man than I am. So it was awesome. It was awesome. It was a lot of freedom in a small town. And I was the first to leave and come down to LA and kind of paved my own path. But there's nothing more powerful or affecting in life to have the continuity of trust and love from your parents, your family members, a swarm of people, if you will. I was German, Irish, from my family.

So they multiply a lot, you know. It's exponential. Everything's in five's in my family. I mean, at some point, I'm like, oh, my goodness, there's like 40 kids. I'm like, I can't afford kids to these kids. I didn't have to the 99-cent store. I was a broke actor.

I'm like, you guys, like, what am I going to do here? You're like, I don't even know you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's crazy. Is it true? Your parents were in a bowling alley? Is that true? Yeah, my family, my grandfather and my grandmother

owned and operated a McKinney Bowl, and my dad worked there. mom worked there. I mean, everybody was working. I grew up in this bowling center. Learned to bowl when I was three. How's your game? You still got it? You know, that's, I'm sure I do, but it's people bowl for fun. To me, it's, it became, it was too competitive for me as it. Yeah, so I can't bowl for fun. So I don't bowl. You can't turn it off. No, man. Couldn't have your daughter's birthday party at the alley. Taking out six-year-olds.

I can take my daughter bowling. I'm just not going to bowl. Too competitive to bowl with your daughter. I like that. Yeah. I love that. So when did the acting thing come into your life? We talked about music. When did you decide that, oh, maybe acting's actually what I was.

Acting came around, I think, well, I think it was, is in college at the local MGC that I went to. And my father just told me to, you know, take, you know, my math, my science, get the basic things out of the way, and then just go stab at a bunch of stuff and see what happens with electives. Just give me 12 units or 9 to 12 units of whatever I needed for transferring,

and then everything else just kind of play. I'm like, all right, you see, just go fail. So I just tried things. Just looked at the elective list, and look, I'll try this, and try this, and try this. And an acting course was one of them. The only thing I knew about acting as, like, a thing,

was like, Michael J. Fox and family ties, and, like, Kirk Cameron, and Growing Pains. I'm like, oh, yeah, those guys are funny. and try that. We clearly grew up in the same era, by the way. Exactly. I knew nothing of that, right? But then once I kind of got into that,

it locked in pretty quickly and pretty immediately. I did the Scarecrow and the Wizard of Oz was in the first play, and then pretty much kind of stuck and just kept going and never looked back and just took, you know, theater and psychology as a double major and just kept going.

What you love about it? A lot of people talk about it, be on the stage, the first time in that reaction from the crowd or working with the cast or why do you love acting instinctively? To me, it became a wonderful stage

is a safe place for me to express a lot of feelings I didn't know I was feeling or having. It's kind of like, it was almost therapeutic in a way. When you're a young man in a small town and it's not really socially acceptable to cry or have rage, it was a way to really kind of hide in a character

and express emotions. in a really safe, healthy way. And then through the psychology of that, it became more about the craft and the subtleties of being able to express human emotion, human condition, and human behavior. And that's what I became really good at over the years. Thank you for listening to the Sunday Sit Down podcast.

Stick around to hear Jeremy talk about the evolution of his career from makeup artist to Oscar-nominated leading man. Welcome back to the Sunday Sit Down podcast. More now of my conversation with Jeremy Renner. So we were talking about your early years in Hollywood when you first got down there what that life was like. Yeah. Yeah, I was very, very focused.

I came down, first of all, as a makeup artist. So coming down to a town, I didn't know nothing about from a small town to a big city, from Minnesota to Los Angeles. I still had a job. So that was comforting. knowing I can come down and I had a job at Longcombe Cosmetics and then to figure out the industry

I had no idea what the heck I was doing I had theater credits but I was very focused I gave myself 11 years I don't know why 11 but 11 years to be three things to be in a movie to be in a movie that was large enough that would play my small

hometown Modesto and it'd be in a role that was large enough that I didn't have to tell my parents which, you know, I'm a guy in the red shirt waiting in the background. There was a large enough role, right? Right. And I got that a year and a half later in town, so my first time on camera, my first job,

was the National Ample and Senior Trip, and all those things happened. All my goals happened in that first year and a half, so I had to recalibrate and figure out. And there's a lot of struggles, you know, after those years. And for a good while, I mean, from 94 to 2000, And there was a lot of karaoke, essentially, going on instead of movies or anything else going. But I still achieve my goal and, you know, had to recalibate and figure out what I wanted to do and where I wanted to go and what direction.

I'm always interested. How do you hang in in those six years when you're not getting the jobs you want? Maybe not making up the way you want. Look, yeah. I was living by candlelight for many years. And, you know, you don't have electricity. You're eating on $5 a month. and that type of thing.

I knew it didn't feel good. In there are times where I might even been depressed and say, God, this sucks. There's never a moment like I'm going home or giving up. I was always conscious that I'm doing what I love to do. I know what I love to do as a young man. I know a lot of people don't even still know what they're doing at 40,

what they love to do, right? They're just doing a job. I'm doing what I love to do. And I get paid to do it, sometimes not very much or very often as I like, but I'm doing what I love to do. So I've always felt very blessed, and I knew that any struggles and as I blew out the candles at night, you know, to go to bed, and that's, you know, I was learning to play guitar because of that. Didn't have to plug it in. There's no electricity.

That's when I was starting to learn to play guitar. I was doing what I love to do, man. And I had really good friends around me at that time as a support system. So it wasn't just alone in it. Because I think a lot of people go through those struggles. And I caught breaks along the way and it was prepared for those breaks and kept swinging for the fences. And then my career in life kept growing as a man and also as a career as an artist. Yeah, so that's 93.

You had 15 years from there till the Hurt Locker, right? About 2008 when that came out, you had a bunch of good supporting roles up through there. Yeah, you got busy for me. come like 2000 from Dahmer on. Yep. That's when, because I said I stayed pretty busy up in, from 2000 to 2008 when we did the Hurt Locker.

Yeah. From SWAT and, you know, North Country, like supporting roles and Jesse James and these type of movies. So that really makes you feel pretty confident that, okay, this is great.

This is, there's a path here and we're working and it's consistent. And then they stopped killing me in movies, which means, oh, not disposable. They want me to come back. Right.

You get through the script and you're still there at the end. Exactly. So, yeah. And there's, so I just kept growing, kept building upon itself. And then what did Hurt Locker do to your life and your career, being nominated for the best actor, Oscar and all that? Yeah. And people saw you as a leading man at that point.

Yeah, that was a huge, huge milestone for me in my life. as a man, for me as an actor. I want to say it's a big shift, but I was prepared, you know, preparing all my life for moments like that. So it was nice. I've been waiting for a long time for that, that position at the plate, to swing, my bat, you know?

And it finally came around. And I was so blessed. It was because of Dahmer, you know, eight years prior. is the reason why I got that movie from Catherine Bigelow. And then that, then it just sort of went crazy with the awards, and that whole thing was brand new to me. And that was a wonderful, wonderful ride and experience, for sure.

And then it really kind of took off from there from doing it. Because I already did the town at that point. And then I went into the big, big, big movies five in a row. From Mission Impossible, Hans-O-R-R-R-O, and Avengers. and born legacy. It seems to be like you've achieved that perfect balance that any actor would dream of, which is be critically acclaimed great roles

that might get you nominated for an Oscar, The Town, being another one of those. And then these big budget, Avengers, Born, Mission Impossible. You almost have the best of both worlds. Do you think of it that way? Yeah. I think they're all, I think there were all great opportunities.

I didn't just want to do a big movie just because of a big movie. I mean, I love my role in all those big movies. I felt like there was quality of character in those roles, otherwise I wouldn't have done them. But I was lucky to be in big movies where I still felt like it did not sacrifice any quality of character and character development and storytelling. So, yeah, I felt that's where I got really lucky. Another piece of your life that I'm fascinated by that I did not know until I was doing my homework is that you have a home remodeling business with a friend of yours. Where do you find time for all these things?

You're cutting albums, shooting movies, building houses. If I thought about it, and none of it would happen. I've talked about that with, he's pretty much my brother at this point. He's one of the first guys I met when I got to Los Angeles in the 93. Since then, essentially become my brother. And we built, geez, I don't know, 20 small homes over the years. And, you know, he had to pick up the slack when I would go off. into a movie, but him and I were fearless and either stupid or we're brave.

I'm not sure. Maybe it's a blend of both to be able to do what we did. And there's some luck involved in what we did. Still love it, still do it in a different facet now. But if I thought about what we were doing, there's no way possible that I'd be like, how do you prepare to go do all that stuff? You just do it. Right.

Like if you want something done, you ask a busy person. Don't ask someone that's just sitting around on vacation, right? So we're just on it. We're great to making decisions, great to problem solving. And that's like with anything in life, right? These are the things that we got really good at. And I think that creates a lot of success. for a lot of people in life.

Do you encourage your problem solver? HGTV show in your future? I mean, I think time, time is always an issue for me at this point. So I don't know. It's been spoken about actually, but I don't know. Well, you've been on an incredible run for, I guess, 25 years now.

What do you see in the next chapter as you wrap up Endgame and Avengers? Are there other things out there beyond the music that you'd like to do in film or some other area? not to add something else to your plate. A good sandwich. Yeah.

What is in my future? Chicken pinini. That's in my future for sure. Yeah, that's a good one. You know, I think it's ultimately to me, brother, it's always about balance and moderation, everything good and bad in anyone's life. I'm always looking for balance and moderation.

And because I've been on an amazing journey of a lot of work and a lot of amazing opportunities, I still want to find out what my life is like. And my daughter helps me with that, right? As we spoke about that clarity of intention, what my main focus is. And it took me a couple years to figure out, wow, what's my life like, my personal life like?

What do I want to do and not have to go do, put on a suit and do stuff? I just want to kind of do what my life is as well and enjoy my life. And be with my family and my friends. I've missed since I've done all those movies. I don't see any of them, right? So just finding moderation and balance.

I'll continue to always work, always, which is play. You know what I mean? It's always going to happen. But, you know, also I still want to be around and see the growth of my nieces and nephews and my daughter and, you know, my mom and live in the house that I built. You know what I mean? It all comes together. When I built with the building, I finally built a house for myself.

I think I slept in it. for two months and five years. Come on. Really? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. What's the point of this thing? Right?

Should have got an apartment somewhere. Silly ridder. So maybe a deep breath is in store for you after this. Go chill for a little place. Or again, it's just moderation of balance. Yeah. I want to sit around and do nothing. I'm a pretty active guy.

Yeah. But it's just, you know, just balance. Last question before I let you go. What happens at the end of end game? there's any credits God he's good I thought I might have weakened you a little bit oh

thanks man that was a blast thank you so much thank you brother thank you so much my thanks again to Jeremy Renner for a great conversation you can see him as if you need me to tell you as Hawkeye

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