Switched on Pop - Kacey Musgraves walks country’s borderlands

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Kacey Musgraves' album Middle of Nowhere finds the country outlaw taking a break from exploring her inner life to look outward, back to her roots: the regional stylings of Texas. She says the album was inspired by a sign in her hometown that read “Golden, TX: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere.” The album’s sounds probe this same borderland mentality, encapsulating desert noir, Norteño, tejano, and soft rock. Plus, Willie Nelson. The result is a collection of songs that are funny, moving, and reaching back to the sound Musgraves established in her debut record 13 years ago. But the world of country has changed since then – artists like Ella Langley have taken over the charts, cribbing Musgraves' sound while courting a more conservative audience. Can the genre encompass all these multitudes? Nate and Charlie explore this debate through Middle of Nowhere. Links: ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠ Songs discussed: Kacey Musgraves – I Miss You Kacey Musgraves – Merry Go 'Round Kacey Musgraves – High Horse Kacey Musgraves – justified Kacey Musgraves – Deeper Well Kacey Musgraves – Dry Spell Kacey Musgraves, Billy Strings – Everybody Wants To Be A Cowboy Kacey Musgraves, Willie Nelson – Uncertain, TX Kacey Musgraves – Middle of Nowhere Kacey Musgraves, Miranda Lambert – Horses and Divorces Miranda Lambert – Mama's Broken Heart Ella Langley – Choosin' Texas Dolly Parton, David Hidalgo – Before The Next Teardrop Falls Ella Langley – Be Her Kacey Musgraves – Rhinestoned Neil Young – Harvest Moon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and we were discussing for the first time, an artist who was just making waves in the country music scene named Casey Musgraves. You know I love Casey Musgraves, but the only thing I love more than Casey Musgraves is proving you wrong because we talked about her on our very first episode titled Heartbreak. We played the song, I Miss You. It's off of her first album. Same trailer, different park. Oh, is that the one that uses the chords from Radiohead's creep? Yes, sir. Okay. Now I'm remembering we talked about Casey. Okay, here's I Miss You. Man, she was great from the get-go. That's her first album. So Casey has been with us since literally the episode of our podcast.

Yeah. You may love proving me wrong, but actually, this just deepens the point I want to make, which is Casey Musgraves, has a new album, and it is a return to the sound that we explored way back in what I was going to say, 2015, maybe even earlier than that. Yeah, October 2014. So, Charlie, we get to go back in time a little bit in today's episode. I get to be young again. Welcome to Switchdown Pop. I'm songwriter Charlie Harding. And I'm musicologist Nate Sloan. Do you remember the name of that album we were discussing Charlie Casey's debut? Same trailer, Different Park. Yes, such a good title.

One of the great album titles of the 21st century. And it introduced a kind of figure that we hadn't really seen before, a pot smoking, queer, celebrating outlaw country throwback who at that time was really going against the grain. of the mainstream country sound and look with songs like Mary Go Round. All my favorites of all time. Mama's hooked on Mary Kay. Brothers hooked on Mary Jane. And Daddy's hooked on Mary two doors down. It's so beautiful.

All the wordplay from children's nursery rhymes. But about the feeling of, of going nowhere stuck in a rut when you're from a small town in Texas. And it's so good. It's hard almost to remember how radical this felt at the time. Every other country song seemed to be praising small town rural life. And Casey was stepping back and saying, hey, there's actually a lot of struggles that are very specific to this rural reality that I experienced and grew up with.

I feel like her music is kind of like that saying dressed conservatively. and speak radically because the music is very restrained, right? Very traditional. Very traditional. Traditional instrumentation, banjo, pedal steel, that sort of like train like snare drum. But then what she's saying is very powerful. It makes you lean in.

From STDP, same for a different part. She released a series of ambitious concept albums that pushed the envelope on what country could be. golden hour melded country with disco to express her joy and entering a new relationship won a Grammy for album of the year little disco trot so good her next album star crossed delved into styles like folk and even psychedelia to mourn the end of that same relationship Those ambiences really earn her the title, Spacey Casey. That song was justified. And I think at this point in her discography,

listeners are prepared to hear something a little different, an exploration of her internal journey, which continues with deeper well from 2024, her most recent album, which settled into maybe a soft rock groove to narrate a journey of healing and finding peace. And I've got to take care of myself.

I've found... That's the title track, Deeper Well. I saw this tour. It blew me away. She is such a talented songwriter and performer. And I just got to say, I see where you're going. You're going through the discography here. And I want to let you know, Nate, that I am a Casey completist.

You did skip over album two, pageant material. That's right. And it is pageant material. It's fantastic. But let's go to today because she's got a new album. It's called Middle of Nowhere. And I feel like it's taking a break from the theme that we saw emerge in those last three albums, which was looking inward. This album looks outward.

It looks to her home, her roots, and to the different regional Texas musical styles that shaped her growth as musicians. Casey said the title was inspired by a sign she saw when she was visiting her hometown, Golden, Texas, somewhere in the middle of nowhere. That's a great self-aware sign. Nice small town. We have styles like Nortemio, Mariachi, Outlaw, Country, Tejano. We have Willie Nelson. And we have that return I was talking about. I want to go back to something Andrew Moranese. set when we were talking about songs like Mary Go Round, which you listened to earlier, he said something that I always think about when we heard Casey sing that line, just like dust, we settle in this town. It sounds like a cliche, but then you realize you've never actually heard it before. It sounds like a cliche, but then you realize you've never actually heard it before.

I mean, that is the craft of songwriting, is saying a thing. You've definitely absolutely heard that it just feels like you've known it your entire life. and in fact it's a new way of expressing that universal emotion. She's so good at that. She's such a clever wordsmith. Also, a moment for us to appreciate how far our audio quality has come in 11 years. 18 or episode 1, please. No, no, you should.

I was pleasantly surprised by how cogently sounded. But yeah, this feels like she's trying to recover some of the songwriting techniques from those early albums and for me it's a really welcome return. Let's dig into some of the lyrics and songwriting styles on Middle of Nowhere and see how Casey Musgraves is reasserting herself as one of the key voices in country music. And let's start with a song that embodies so much of what made us kind of fall for this artist in the first place. It's called Dry Spell. It's been written 35 days and the the life it was an age if you know what i'm my favorite part of the show where i make charlie feel uncomfortable no no no yeah charlie what is uh lonely with a capital h mean i definitely in the first time i

heard the song i had to think it through for a second it did not hit not that it was like not that it's a bad punchline but it took me a second lonely with a capital h i was like hon hon is there a spanish word is there like what am i missing here and it really becomes clear when she follows up I was up with I've been sitting on the washing machine and the chorus that she's going through a dry spell. Yes. But I need you to say it, Charlie. I need you to say it. Horned up?

Yes. So there's some great Casey turns of phrases. And then we get to the pre-chorus. Ain't nobody's tool up in my shed. Ain't nobody's boot on nobody's truck up in my drive for a late night call for. Ain't nobody's boots under my bed. She has such a knack for always towing the line of like kind of a traditional country sound. And whenever she's like strays too far into something that feels a little risque, like sitting on the washing machine, I feel like she'll just slide back into that like comfortable country territory.

Need a kind of a classic image. Yeah, like boots under the bed. She's like, she always walks that line really well where you're like, oh yeah, this song will still get played on country radio. Yeah, right. This is the thing that is wonderful about Casey is that she is great at wordplay. There's so much humor in her music, but it's not just a joke. There's underlying deep emotion in it as well. I love that we have this minor chord progression. And it does feel like it's yearning for something. It's like it's going somewhere. Of course, what we're yearning for is human touch. The blend of those two is very satisfying. minor chords, humorous lyrics, won't somebody just love me?

9-1-1, it's officially a cry for help. Y'all I'm going to a drive. She just give us a y'all? We got a y'all in there. We got a y'all and a yep. A y'all on a yep. This is a real country return. None of that Spacey-KCy disco stuff.

We are firmly in Texas right now, aren't we? We are. With these lyrics that feel very 20-26, at the same time, right? Totally. I read the studies. I know we're under-sexed as a population right now. So it's a tongue-in-cheek song,

but it's also addressing a very real loneliness epidemic. Thank you for taking it there. Well, I do know. I like what you said earlier about there's comedy in the lyrics, but there's also kind of a serious kernel of truth as well. I feel like that is perfectly exemplified by another, track on this album featuring the guitar virtuoso Billy Strings. Oh, love Billy Strings.

Called Everybody Wants to Be a Cowboy. Another song where you see the title and you hear her sing these barbed lyrics. barbed lyrics like, I bet most of these boots have probably never seen any dirt. But then you get to the chorus, everybody wants to be a cowgirl till it's five in the morning and as cold as hell in the work ain't going to do itself. This is more than a song about just poking fun at, you know, want to be cowboys who look the part. It's like really a song about what it takes to be a cowboy.

I mean, what does that mean? It means someone who actually shows up, who sticks around, who does the work. Like, that's a more powerful message than I was expecting at the start of this song. Yeah, it's a great double meaning. That's good songwriting. Feels like also a mantra for the sound of this album. We're hearing, like, very raw acoustic instruments throughout telecaster guitars with that classic tremolo and overdrive. pedal steel arcing ethereally through the mix.

And of course, I know you've been waiting with bated breath for this, a ripping Billy Strings flat pick acoustic guitar solo. Oh, he's so good. He's such a tasteful guitar player for someone who is such a virtuoso. Nothing in this record ever rises above the power of her voice in the song. all the players are excellent and yet every single time they're featured it's just to like create a little lift of the atmosphere

and I feel like that's what Billy's doing right there so beautifully. Lots of dissonance, all these clashing strings that are a second apart from each other. Ooh. Yeah, like those kinds of things. Yeah, so...

Oh, give us some more. Just trying to give you an interval. It reminds me a little bit of like David Rawlings playing. Anyway. Support for this show comes from Fetch Pet Insurance. Do you have a pet? Every six seconds, a pet owner in the U.S. gets hit with a vet bill of over $1,000. And it's almost always an unwelcome surprise.

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This feeling of being in the middle of nowhere is definitely captured in the song, uncertain Texas. The place I currently live at is barely It's in the great state of confusion I shake my head and wonder why hesitations on the rise is love Just to form a There's a way that this album wants to explore the in-between Yeah, the liminal states

In a way that I find really compelling. And this particular track, is giving us a music that is kind of in between. Tejano music, Tex-Mex music, that is this border music that literally exists in the in-between places. Where does the US and Mexico begin? Borders are kind of fictitious at the end of the day.

And I feel like this musical style that blends the sound of Southern Country and rock with traditional Mexican instrumentation of accordion and Calbell is like the music. musical representation of that. Yeah, you know, she's from Golden, Texas, which is due east of Dallas, eastern Texas. And Texas is enormous with just so many different subcultures and variations.

I have been down to a border area of Texas, west of San Antonio, right near the Rio Grande, and you really do feel the blending of many different cultures and musics. You walk into a saloon there, and you're going to get more of that Tejano sound that she's giving us here. So she's taking us on a tour around the great state of Texas. And if we're taking a tour of Texas, there's one voice we want to hear. It's the Poet Laureate of Texas music. It's Willie Nelson. Nothing better than Willie Nelson and a whole lot of cowbell.

It's a great track. We talked about this last year when we did a series. series on country and we did an episode about Americana, but I think Willie Nelson is one of the greatest voices we have right now, 93 years old, and it's cracking. It's rough. He's dealing with lung issues and yet I feel like that just makes his voice more powerful in this way. It's more human. And he spans the history of contemporary recorded music. I mean, you know, from writing Patsy Klein's crazy to launching Outlaw Country music. to releasing an album basically every single year of his life.

Yeah. And importantly, operating in country music, like an outlaw, outside the world of country music, meaning not in Nashville, but near Austin, Texas. I got to prove myself here that I've done my research. This is not the first time he and Casey have worked together. That album you mentioned that I neglected to earlier. Pageant Material features a duet with Willie Nelson. And I've mentioned this song as representative of the album's themes of being in between interstitial.

That means we should probably talk about the title track, Middle of Nowhere, which is actually the first song we get on this album. It's a transporting song. Just count it with me. Two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one. Two. Then check it out. You see what I mean? The song transports you. The song is about going into the middle of nowhere, leaving the gridded nature of urban society, and going to the middle of nowhere, in the middle of nowhere actually feels different.

It's slower time. We literally slow down into this compound feel when we arrive into the middle of nowhere, and it's so satisfying. The pedal seal comes in, that whining sound that just greets us like any great country song does. Her ingredients are always simple, but they're treated so perfectly. The guitar, the pedal seal, the drums, the bass, they merge together so delicately, so sweetly. It's a good moment to shout out some of the collaborators on this album, many of whom have been working with Casey since 2013's same trail. different park. In fact, when we listen to this song, the very first thing we hear is Casey's singing with a male harmony voice below her. That must be Daniel Tashon.

Interesting move. I think it's Daniel Tashen, exactly, who has co-written and co-produced many of Casey's albums. Ian Fitchick switched on pop guests, obligatory shoutout, also appearing as a producer songwriter on many of her tracks, plus real country stalwarts. Yeah, like Shane McAnally, Luke Laird, Josh Osborne, Steph Jones. These are stalwarts of Nashville songwriting sessions. Also, Rick Nowell's, Scotty Emmerich, really great writers on this record. And then there's a songwriter we haven't mentioned. Not just a songwriter, country star in their own right. Miranda Lambert. Oh, yeah. She is a songwriter and the featured artists on a song called Horses and Divorces and divorces. That's a good title.

You know that I've said some things about you. And I've done my fair share of shit talking to both sides of the fences. I've gotten defensive. There's always two sides of the truth. Okay, this requires a little bit of backstory. Help me out here. Because this is a fun back and forth duet, but it's based in reality. It's the country equivalent of the Charlie X-CX Lord.

Let's Work It Out on the remix. You know, girl's so confusing. But Casey and Miranda had some issues that go way back to a song from 2013 that was a huge hit for Miranda Lambert called Mama's Broken Heart. That's a fun one. Such a great track. Yeah. And who wrote it? Any guesses?

I'm going to guess it was a Casey Musgraves song? It was. Okay. Now, Casey apparently wanted to feature this song on her debut album. Oh. But because she was still kind of a newcomer, because she was working on the track with more experienced songwriters like Shane McAnally, who we just mentioned,

I think she felt like she was obligated to give it up to this, you know, country star Miranda Lambert. And she then had to sit back and watch her just go platinum with this thing. Oh, man. So this resulted in a kind of very memeable moment that I only just discovered, which was at the country music awards when Miranda Lambert accepted her award, she gave a little shout out to Casey Musgraves, who had just won Best New Artist in the same ceremony. Yeah. And Charlie, I actually want to show you this and maybe you can describe what's happening for our listeners. Casey, congratulations on new artists.

That was awesome. East Texas girls got to stick together. Okay. Okay. So that kind of looked like the equivalent. of a false apology where Miranda's like not given the biggest smile when she's saying congratulations to Casey who is basically giving a death stare back. Yes.

At Miranda. Not looking happy. She is not even pretending to smile for the camera. She looks withering. She wanted that song. So fast forward, we now have the remix, so to speak, with Miranda and Casey. coming together and burying their differences. That's fun.

And Casey introduces Miranda Lambert at a recent live show like this. Well, you know, us these sexist girls got to stick together. By referencing that meme, Casey is saying, hey, whatever beef we had, it's over. And actually, check out the chorus of our new song together. bottom of a battle do things in common horses and divorces and we both like to drink that's how you do it charlie you don't release a disc track you release a track where you sing in harmony about your common experience of horses and divorces this is such a cool track shared woes that's how you bond now there's a number of other songs that we haven't

discussed on middle of nowhere that i highly encourage everyone to go check out i'm going to give a special shout out to Rhinestone. Love that track. Can you think of the central wordplay around Rhinestoneed? If not, just go spin it for yourself. It's an apple bon. That was unintentional, I swear, that cough. What are you hiding under that desk? But I want to zoom out from Casey's middle of nowhere and think about the meaning of this album in the current landscape of country music. And actually, I want to contrast Casey to another figure who has been making waves within the genre recently. And I don't think we've actually talked about on the podcast up to this point. Kid Rock?

It's, it is Ella Langley. Oh, yeah. The artist hailing from Alabama, whose song Choosing Texas has broken records. It's the longest running number one hit by. by a female country artist spending eight weeks in the number one spot at the Billboard Hot 100.

It's even been kicked off of the top and then gone back to the top, which is impressive. And if we listen to a little bit of this song, I think it's clear who's influencing Ella Langley. Oh yeah. Wait, is this not a KC. Mosegraves track? Just when I thought...

Mellow vocal. The whole... on a second. All right. Casey Musgraves is going to have a new feud. I didn't realize because the town of Abilene, yes, is featured on Casey Musgrave's new album. Yes, she does have a song called Abilene. Now, I mean, I don't know, try.

I don't want to overstate it. I'm sure we could find 200 country songs that mention Abilene. It's a good rhyme. I apologize. It's not a town. It's a small city. And she's certainly not the only country artist to use. this palette of soft rock and disco and psychedelia.

I mean, we could find other artists, including probably a huge influence on Casey. Dolly Parton has used many of these sounds. But it's hard also, after we just listened to all these Casey Musgraves tracks, it's hard not to see that Ella Langley was influenced by her. And why wouldn't she be? I mean, Casey is like an icon. She pointed a new way for artists.

of all genders to approach country. And Ella Langley's latest single, B. Her, feels like it's going even deeper into that Casey Lane. Are you for real? She drinks wine by the glass, not by the bottle. She ain't stuck on the past. I ain't worried about tomorrow. Does this remind me of rhinestone from Casey's new album?

Both of these kind of have that Neil Young Harvest Moon vibe that uses these very soft major seventh chords. Her song, Heart of the Woods from a Deeper Well, also uses a lot of those kind of sounds. Turns out Canadian imposture cowboys can also have major influence on country music. Now, I want to be very clear. I think what Ella Langley is doing is awesome. I love to see her using the sounds and the wit and the wordplay of artists like Casey Musgraves and translating them into these massive country pop crossover hits. But it's also kind of an interesting moment because there are so many political lines in the world of country right now.

So I want to compare what. these two artists have done this summer because Ella Langley headlined stagecoach, the premier country music festival, which I think has increasingly gently associated itself with sort of right-wing politics. That might not be a fair assessment, but she brought out a special guest during her set who was the podcaster, Theo Vaughn. He did a part that's done by Riley Green, on one of her songs. Theo Vaughn, I mean, I don't, he's a quasi political figure.

He certainly expressed a number of diverse views, but I would say he tends to lean right. He certainly associates with a lot of right wing figures. She's collaborated with Morgan Wallin, another artist who is constantly skirting with the political right, though he's never necessarily come out and express any overt political opinions. And on the other hand, Casey Musgraves has kind of gone in the opposite direction.

She's associated herself more with progressive causes. She didn't perform at stagecoach. She performed a surprise set at Coachella right after she announced that a mariachi band made up of family members who had been detained by ICE were going to be her opening act for a series of concerts. in Texas. And these musicians even joined Casey on stage for a few of her songs. So let me be clear. Country music is becoming politicized even when the music itself is not. I think the music is kind of more expansive than it's ever been. And yet when it comes to the performance and the positioning of these artists, you increasingly have to take a stand, which I think is just a really interesting moment.

for these artists to find themselves in. When you're asked to choose Texas, it can be a very loaded idea. Texas can represent an independent mindset. It can represent a place of great cultural and ethnic diversity. It can be a place also of extreme conservatism and the conversation around immigration and border patrol and ICE tactics has risen to a fever pitch in this year.

When you're choosing Texas, you might be choosing two very different sides. Recent political battles in Texas have shut down reproductive rights for women, healthcare access for LGBTQ folks, audiences that matter a lot to Casey. So choosing Texas can be very loaded. From Abilene to Golden to El Paso, there is no monolithic Texas. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. And this album, middle of nowhere, really kind of puts that into words and into music. And I'll be curious to see how these two artists continue to develop these ideas. Ella Langley clearly indebted to Casey Musgraves for her musical, lyrical palette. Will country continue to be divided or will it maybe start to recognize that these sounds

are actually part of the common fabric of the South? We'll have to keep tuning in. For me, I'm happy to go find myself in the middle of nowhere. Okay, so I told you about how I spent some time in the rural areas of South Texas. Yeah. I'm so clearly a northerner because at one point, I was with my pal and we were hunting boar and I was given a rifle. And there was no way that I could take a life. It was not in me. But one thing I did take away from the experience is we had the best breakfast tacos of my entire life.

So parts of Texas, I had to leave behind something I've taken with me everywhere I go. You are the definition of a Yankee. Charlie and we wouldn't have it any other way. That story, I'm going to attempt to make a very awkward plug here. Your story about hunting bore, themes of violence and the vast unknown, my friend Sean Wen just made an amazing podcast. It doesn't have anything to do with music, to be clear, which is why I'm sort of struggling to make this connection, but I do think it's really brilliant. It's called Foundering, The Killing of Bobley. It's an investigation into a really controversial case that happened in San Francisco where this tech CEO, the founder of Cash App,

was killed in a stabbing. And everyone thought it was kind of a symptom of like, you know, unfettered crime and homelessness in San Francisco. And when you listen to this podcast, you discover that's not the whole story. So anyway, recommend people check it out. It's really fun. Or maybe fun isn't the right word. But yeah, it kind of is. It's an amazing ride, honestly. There's probably some kind of connection murder ballad country music. I was racking my brain.

Is there a murder ballad on middle of nowhere? But there's not. No, okay. Just check a founding. Yeah, fun. Switched on Pop is produced by Raina Cruz, edited by Alyssa Soap, engineered by Brad McFarlane, illustrations by Arras Gottlieb, video by Nick Rips.

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