Tech Brew Ride Home - Fri. 01/17 – TikTok Loses In The Supreme Court

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

The Supreme Court rules against TikTok, but at this point, I think this is all kabuki theater. Somehow TikTok is going to survive. Bumble’s founder returns to the company. Is Apple Intelligence real...ly working for anyone? Does anyone care that the Chinese have allegedly hacked everything at this point? And, of course, The Weekend Longreads suggestions. Sponsors: MackWeldon.com promocode BRIAN Links: Supreme Court Upholds Law That Threatens US TikTok Ban (Bloomberg) Bumble Founder Whitney Wolfe Herd to Return as CEO in March (Bloomberg) iOS 18.3 temporarily disables Apple Intelligence notification summaries for select apps, more (9to5Mac) General Motors Is Banned From Selling Driving Behavior Data for 5 Years (NYTimes) FBI Warned Agents It Believes Phone Logs Hacked Last Year (Bloomberg) Chinese Hackers Accessed Yellen's Computer in US Treasury Breach (Bloomberg) Weekend Longreads Suggestions: Charlwin Mao, the Chinese tech founder welcoming ‘TikTok refugees’ (Financial Times) Kids Turn to a Mental-Health Chatbot to Share Their Anxieties (WSJ) To release Animal Crossing in the West, Nintendo ‘had to change everything’ (Polygon) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On April 4th, 2023, around 2 in the morning, a man was found stabbed multiple times on a sidewalk in downtown San Francisco. Hey, who did this to you? What happened next turned the story into a political firestorm. Reports have identified the victim as Bob Lee, the founder of Cash App. From Bloomberg Podcasts, this is Foundering, the Killing of Bob Lee, beginning April 16. Welcome to the Tech meme right home for Friday. January 17th, 2025. I'm Brian McCullough today. The Supreme Court rules against TikTok, but at this point, I think this is all Kabuki Theater. Somehow TikTok is going to survive. Bumble's founder returns to the company. Is Apple intelligence really working for anyone? Does anyone care that the Chinese have allegedly hacked everything at this point? And of course, the weekend, long-rate suggestions. Here's what you miss today in the world of tech. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against TikTok. They have upheld the law that would mean TikTok is facing a U.S. ban in a matter of hours. Quoting Bloomberg, the ruling is that free speech rights must yield to concerns that Chinese
Starting point is 00:01:15 control of the app creates a national security risk. In a unanimous vote, the High Court said Friday Congress acted constitutionally when it required bite-dance to sell the video sharing app by January 19th or face a ban. The decision opens an uncertain chapter for TikTok and it's 170 million U.S. users. President-elect Donald Trump has vowed to save TikTok and could choose to suspend enforcement of the new law once he takes office on Monday. But the impact of that move would depend on the response of the tech companies that host and distribute TikTok, including Apple and Alphabet's Google. Under the law, those companies would face the prospect of massive fines for continuing to support TikTok, and they would have to decide whether assurances from the Trump administration provide sufficient legal cover, end quote.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Now, here's the thing. So this ban is likely going to go into effect. Maybe somehow. But it is clear now that there is bipartisan consensus to undo all of this somehow. Even Senator Wyden told me this on this weekend's bonus episode. As Axios points out, Bite Dance may have effectively called America's bluff. Quote, we don't know why Bite Dance hasn't divested at stake in TikTok, nor even entered into negotiations to do so. Maybe it's been inactive by choice, maybe by Chinese government command. Either way, much of the opposition appears to be folding. Some of the Wofflers say they just want to give Bite Dance more time to divest, hoping that it's venture backers or suitors like Frank McCourt and Steve Mnuchin can work out a deal. but if the reason for the ban is really national security, i.e. protecting the data of 170 million
Starting point is 00:02:36 Americans, why would you willingly put that at risk for another three or nine months? More importantly, bite dance will have already seen what happens when the rubber meets the road and would be emboldened to take that trip again. The last-minute wrangling may prove too little too late as the legislative language is pretty ironclad, but when the DC vibes shift, surprising things are known to happen, end quote. Bumble founder Whitney Wolf Hurd is returning to the company as CEO in mid-March, replacing current CEO Lidien Jones, who is departing for, quote, personal reasons, quoting Bloomberg. Shares of Bumble jumped 6.6% in pre-market trading following the announcement. The company's latest executive shakeup adds to the planned 2025 departures of its chief financial
Starting point is 00:03:23 officer and chief marketing officer. Jones, who was the CEO of Slack before joining Bumble last January, had overseen a tumultuous period during her short tenure. The company laid off around 37% of its workforce last February as it sought to overhaul its app and revive slowing user gains, and in August its shares took a record plunge after its slashed annual revenue outlook, a sign that the product overhaul had failed to reignite growth as expected, end quote. As we've been discussing, all the dating companies have been suffering as there is seemingly a generational shift going on. Young people just don't like dating apps
Starting point is 00:03:58 as much. Apple is disabling notification summaries for news and entertainment apps in iOS 18.3 beta and making other changes to summaries including using italicized text. Why? Because they just haven't been working for people. Quoting 9 to 5 Mac. The changes come after complaints from news outlets such as the BBC. Two weeks ago, Apple promised that a future software update would, quote, further clarify when the text being displayed is summarization provided by Apple Intelligence. Here are the changes included in iOS 18.3 for Apple Intelligence Notification Summaries. When you enable notification summaries, iOS 18.3 will make it clearer that the feature, like all Apple Intelligence features is in beta. You can now disable notification summaries for an app directly from the lock screen or notification center by swiping, tapping options, and then choosing the turnoff summaries option.
Starting point is 00:04:52 On the lock screen, notification summaries now use italicized text to better distinguish them from normal notifications. In the settings app, Apple now warns users that notification summaries, quote, may contain errors. Additionally, notification summaries have been temporarily disabled entirely for the news and entertainment category of apps. Notification summaries will be reenabled for this category with a future software update as Apple continues to refine the experience, end quote. By the way, what were the complaints? Quote, the BBC has highlighted multiple instances of Apple intelligence botching summaries of notifications from the BBC news app. One such example suggested that Luigi Mangione, the accused killer of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, had shot himself. Last week, the BBC published another story highlighting multiple other examples of incorrect Apple intelligence summaries, end quote.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Now, I'm nowhere near technical enough to know if this is true, but I found this comment from user at e-commerce shares on X in response to Mark Gurman on X. Interesting quote. Local models won't run the way Apple presented the Apple Intelligence Vision until we have 24 gigabytes RAM on the phone. Before that, there's simply no way. The whole model plus all running apps need to be in memory and be able to manage long-sustained workloads at low heat, and quote. The Federal Trade Commission is banning GM from selling driver, behavior, and geolocation data to consumer reporting agencies for five years after finding GM didn't properly inform drivers. Quoting the Times. The New York Times reported last year that GM was collecting data about people's driving behavior, including how often they sped or drove at night and selling it to data brokers that generated risk profiles for insurance companies. Some drivers reported that their auto insurance rates increased as a result. GM monitored and sold people's precise.
Starting point is 00:06:40 geolocation data and driver behavior information, sometimes as often as every three seconds, said Lena Khan, the chair of the FTC. With this action, the FTC is safeguarding Americans' privacy and protecting people from unchecked surveillance, end quote. The FTC opened an investigation and determined that GM had collected and sold data from millions of vehicles, quote, without adequately notifying consumers and obtaining their affirmative consent. Drivers who signed up for OnStar connected services and activated a feature called Smart Driver were subject to the data collection. But federal regulator said the enrollment process was so confusing, many consumers did not realize they had
Starting point is 00:07:14 signed up for it. GM failed to clearly disclose to consumers the types of information it collected through its smart driver feature, including that their geolocation and driving behavior data, such as every instance of hard-breaking, late-night driving, and speeding, would be sold to consumer reporting agencies, the FTC said in a statement. These consumer reporting agencies used the sensitive information GM provided to compile credit reports on consumers, which were used by insurance companies to deny insurance and set rates, end quote. In a statement, GM said it had already ended the data collection program due to consumer feedback. The company said consumers could see and delete their personal information through a forum on its website, end quote.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I keep banging the drum on this because as an American, I feel like we will one day wake up to discover the fact that Chinese state-sponsored hackers have allegedly basically gotten into everything will be a bigger deal than we're making of it right now. Let me just give you two more data points. First, FBI leaders have warned that they believe the hackers who broke into AT&T system, last year stole months of their agents' call and text logs. What I'm saying here is they were going after targeted sensitive things, quoting the times. The cache of hacked AT&T records didn't reveal the substance of communications, but according to the document, could link investigators to their secret sources. The data was believed to include agents' mobile phone numbers and the numbers with which they called and texted the document shows. Records for calls and texts that
Starting point is 00:08:40 weren't on the AT&T network, such as through encrypted messaging apps, weren't part of the stolen data. person with knowledge of the breach who reviewed a sample of the stolen information confirmed that it contained records of sensitive FBI communications, the call logs of at least one agent. The person asked not to be named because the information is private. The FBI's concern about the hack, compromising its secret sources, which hasn't previously been reported, highlights how data stolen from phone companies has the potential to disrupt criminal investigations and national security. Former agents said it also raises questions about the Bureau's own security practices and how it safeguards its sources. U.S. authorities are still investigating a separate breach of nine telecommunications
Starting point is 00:09:18 companies, including AT&T. They blamed Chinese state-backed hackers for those intrusions, which compromised the communications of a number of people in government and politics, end quote. Okay, that sounds bad, but so does this. sources say Chinese hackers breached U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's computer and access fewer than 50 unclassified files, but two deputies were also. hacked as well. Time for the weekend long read suggestions. First up, we've been talking about red note to that Chinese app that is welcoming TikTok refugees. So from the Financial Times, a profile of the company.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Quote, when the Chinese Stanford student, Charwin Mao was thinking of a name for his startup in 2013, he settled on Zhao Hongshu, which translates to Little Red Book. It referenced the color of his prestigious university and his former employer, Bain Capital, both bastions of U.S. capitalism. This week, however, his choice of name became the focal point of an online conspiracy theory that the app was named after a compilation of Chairman Mao Zey Dong's quotations, which some translate as a little red book. But for Mao, no relation to Chairman Mao, it is no laughing matter. He operates in a sensitive regulatory environment where regulators do not look kindly on any breach of the Great Firewall, a digital divide that separates China's online
Starting point is 00:10:43 population from the outside world. Mao is part of a second-genital. generation of Chinese internet entrepreneurs who emerged in the mid-2010s to challenge the dominance of giants such as Baidu, Alibaba, and Tencent. While still at Stanford Business School, he pitched to investors an internet company that focused on lifestyle. Early funding came from U.S. and Chinese backers, Zen Fund, GS.R Ventures, and what was then called GGV Capital. He and co-founder Miranda Q, a fellow Wuhan native and marketing executive, tested out a few ideas, including a travel guide for Chinese tourists. They finally settled on a photo-sharing app focusing on lifestyle content. Mao later gained the backing of both Tencent and Alibaba a rare achievement from the arch-rivals,
Starting point is 00:11:24 both invested to prevent the other from acquiring the startup. According to figures provided to investors, Zhao Hong Shu has more than 300 million active users who rely on it for restaurant tips, travel ideas, and beauty advice. That figure will be higher after this week. It is an essential conduit for consumer brands to reach shoppers via sponsored post. and influencers. Those close to Mao call him a smooth operator, fluent in Chinese and American business, skills honed during his time at Bain Capital. There are two types of typical Chinese tech entrepreneurs. One is the nerdy type who wears t-shirts and trainers and is shy when speaking in public. The other is the battle-hardened wolf warrior type who barks orders at people around
Starting point is 00:12:03 them, said one long-time employee. Mao is neither. He has the best fashion sense among all Chinese tech founders. He speaks with the clarity of a Wall Street elite, they added, end quote. Next, the Wall Street Journal has a look at Trudy, a mental health chatbot built by AI startup, Alamia Health for Trumee's child-focused phones, which has accumulated thousands of teen users across the U.S., quote, Taley Johnson, a 14-year-old near Nashville, Tennessee, recently began talking to Trudy. She confided her worries about moving to a new neighborhood and leaving her friends behind and fretting about a coming science test. It sounds like you've got a lot on your plate at the moment.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Taley said the bot. It's understandable that these changes and responsibilities could cause stress. Taley says Trudy, a mental health chapout built into her child-focused Trumee phone, validates her feelings. It's available to talk any time even when her parents are asleep. Sometimes I forget she's not a real person, she says. Trumee Wireless, based in Oram, Utah, makes smartphones with a restricted internet browser, text messaging monitoring, and strict controls over contacts and time limits. Released in late 2021, it now has tens of thousands of adolescent users across the country,
Starting point is 00:13:11 Trumee's CEO Bill Brady says, In November, the company gave parents the option to activate Trudy on their kids' phones. So far, several thousand have done so. Trumey partnered with Mental Health chatbot startup Alamia Health, which built the bot on OpenAIs GPT4 with instructions and auditing by a team of clinicians. For Suzanne and Antonio Carrillo of Gathersburg, Maryland, Trudy has become a welcome companion for their 26-year-old daughter with intellectual disabilities. After she bullied someone on Facebook that Carillo's bought
Starting point is 00:13:41 a true-me phone to help her feel connected but stay out of trouble. Their daughter Claire, who has been diagnosed with anxiety and lives in a group home, would call them multiple times, day and night with questions about what to do in different situations. Now that she has been talking to Trudy, she has eased up on her parents. Claire texted Trudy more than 1,600 times in her first month. Trudy doesn't care how many times she asks the same question, Suzanne says, end quote. And finally today, from an upcoming book about the game, details on how Nintendo localized and Animal Crossing New Horizons for Western players. The game has more than 46 million in all-time switch sales at this point. Quote, as the game got close to being done, they said, why don't you guys take a look at this one more time?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Trennan continued, and they sent us the version over to us. Unexpectedly, Trinin and his colleagues in the English translation department found the game impossible to put down. It turned into a fight on who could get the cartridge first every day, recalled Trinon. With the game's shop only restocking once each day, the first person to play would be the only one to get whatever new tool was on sale. Whoever gets their first gets a big up over everyone else. Passing the cartridge around all day and chatting about their town, they decided to write an evaluation of the game that all but insisted it should be localized for the U.S. market. I actually came to Leslie Swan and said, I'll take a year, two years myself, and do this whole game. It's that much fun, said Tim O'Leary, who worked on the game's translation in a 2014 Kutaku interview. Usually what
Starting point is 00:15:05 happened was that the development team and our executive management would talk about the prospects for gaining success in the U.S., explained Swan. We would meet with the dev team to talk about what we thought needed to be done, and they would point out everything we should be aware of. But this was different than the easier stuff the small team was used to, like naming Mario enemies. Much different. I don't think anybody really understood how big the project was, Swan said. She recalled sitting in a small conference room where a producer Takashi Tazuka attempted to explain. We really didn't develop this with the global market in mind at all, he told her. It's just everything in it is so Japanese. It's not just a matter of translating it.
Starting point is 00:15:40 for the U.S. market, end quote. Okay, the weekend bonus episode this weekend is, as mentioned, an interview with Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. I'm going to take the time here to make a note. This is not me getting political. The senators people reached out to me to do the interview. I did not seek it out. I agreed to do the interview because Senator Wyden is often involved in tech regulation stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:08 We mention him a lot on the show. So we mostly talk about that. AI regulation, TikTok regulation competition with China. So just so we're clear, just because. because this is a Democratic senator. I am not taking a political side here. If a Republican senator who deals a lot with the tech industry wants to come on, I would have them gladly. Anyway, interesting conversation. Look for that tomorrow. And will there be a show on Monday? At this point, unclear. It is a federal holiday here in the U.S. My kids will be off school,
Starting point is 00:16:37 my wife off work, so I'm tempted to take some family time, but the whole TikTok thing, it will be happening right then. So I don't know. I reserve the option to do a show Monday, but we shall see, talk to you soon?

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