Tech Brew Ride Home - Mon. 07/14 – Google Snatches Windsurf From OpenAI
Episode Date: July 14, 2025Google snatched the Windsurf acquisition out from under OpenAI in a big new acquihire. SpaceX is investing in xAI. ChromeOS and Android to merge, but for real this time? Was there a new sort of DeepSe...ek moment over the weekend? And example number 74 of how YouTube is now the king of video entertainment. Links: Google to Pay $2.4 Billion for Windsurf Staff, IP After Startup Ends OpenAI Talks (The Information) Google Is Said to Pay $2.4 Billion for Windsurf Assets, Talent (Bloomberg) An OpenAI Acquisition Turns Into a Google 'Hackqusition'... (Spyglass) Elon Musk’s xAI seeks up to $200bn valuation in next fundraising (Financial Times) SpaceX to Invest $2 Billion Into Elon Musk’s xAI (WSJ) Google exec: ‘We’re going to be combining ChromeOS and Android’ (The Verge) 'I think you see the future first on Android' – Google's Android leader Sameer Samat (TechRadar) Moonshot AI’s Kimi K2 outperforms GPT-4 in key benchmarks — and it’s free (VentureBeat) Eight Things We’ve Learned About Hollywood This Year (Bloomberg) The Streaming Wars Come Down to 2: YouTube vs. Netflix (NYTimes) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the Tech meme right home for Monday, July 14th, 2025. I'm Brian McCullough today. Google Snatch, the windsurf acquisition out from under OpenAI in a big new aqua hire. SpaceX is investing in XAI, ChromeOS and Android to merge. But for real this time, was there a new sort of deep seek moment over the weekend and example number 74 of how YouTube is now the king of video entertainment? Here's what you missed today in the world of tech. To borrow from the football chant, it's happened again. It's happened.
happened again. Another big AI AccuHire. Remember how OpenAI was going to acquire the AI coding startup
Winsurf? Well, over the weekend, first, the exclusivity period on OpenAI's $3 billion offer to
acquire Winsurf expired, and within hours, Google swooped in and hired Winsurf CEO Veran
Mohan, co-founder Douglas Chen, and some of Winsurf's R&D employees to focus on agentic
coding efforts at Google-owned Deep Mind.
Now, the information was reporting that OpenAI and WinSurf talks ended after WinSurf raised
concerns over how its tech would fit into OpenAI's agreement to share tech with Microsoft.
More on that in a second.
Quote, Google is paying $2.4 billion for a non-exclusive licensing fee that will pay for
WinSurf's technology and multiple years of compensation for WinSurf staff coming to the company,
according to a person with direct knowledge.
It will not take a sense.
stake in the company, Google said. The deal will generate a return for at least some of the
startups investors, according to a person familiar with the deal. Employees with vested shares
will receive cash, but those without vested equity, many of whom joined in the past year,
will not receive a payout according to a person who spoke to leadership at Windsurf. Meta Platforms
also held talks with WinSurf about a deal or acquisition, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Other large tech companies have paid huge sums of money as part of similar transactions,
in which they hire much sought-after AI talent without outright acquiring their companies.
Last month, Meta invested $14.3 billion in scale AI while also hiring the startup's CEO
Alexander Wang and several of its top employees. Last year, Google hired Character AI co-founders
Noam Shazir and Daniel DeFriitas while paying the startup a $2.7 billion licensing fee,
which would use to pay out shareholders. And also last year, Microsoft paid a roughly $650 million
licensing fee to inflection to hire most of its staff, including its co-founders.
The unconventional agreements have allowed the big tech companies to quickly hire top AI researchers
without going through the lengthy review process of a formal merger, end quote.
And quoting TechCrunch.
Notably, Google is not taking a stake in WinSurf and will not have any control over the
company.
However, as part of the deal, Google will have a non-exclusive license to certain WinServe technology,
meaning the AI coding startup remains free to license its technology to others.
end quote. And then back to the details about how the deal with Open AI reportedly blew up,
quoting Bloomberg. Winsurf didn't want Microsoft to have access to its intellectual property,
a condition that Open AI was unsuccessful in getting Microsoft's agreement on, people familiar said.
That was one of several sticking points in Microsoft and OpenAI's ongoing talks about the AI company's
efforts to restructure into a commercial entity. Microsoft's existing agreement with OpenAI says
the software giant is entitled to access the startup's technology. OpenAI thought it had an
agreement with windsurf and almost announced the acquisition in early May, according to people
familiar with the deal. There had been a signed letter of intent, and windsurf investors were
given what's known as waterfall agreements, notifying each party how much money they were
expected to make the people said, end quote. Again, in my 25 years in tech, I've never seen
a talent hiring spree like this, but also it's been years since there's been a horse race
in tech like this. You probably have to go back to the dot-com era to see this level of frenzied
jockeying for position, quoting M.G. Siegler. This is all not a great look for OpenAI,
whereas the reports about the ongoing OpenAI Microsoft negotiations are just that,
reports of goings on behind the scenes, which they can brush off or quasi-deny. This deal is a very
outward-facing sign of Microsoft's level of control in the relationship. OpenAI had a deal to
acquire another startup, and Microsoft effectively killed it. At the same time, you have to wonder if
part of Open AI isn't okay with the deal being killed.
beyond the aforementioned issue with Anthropic, WinSurf's main competitor, Cursor,
seems to have most of the momentum in the market right now and keeps raising money or getting
offers to raise money at ever-increasing sums. And the fact that Thrive Capital is both a key
investor in Open AI and Cursor seems interesting, if nothing else. At the same time,
one has to wonder if Winsurf isn't okay with this new deal on some level because Cursor keeps
setting new price comps for such startups. That said, it's undoubtedly not great news for the company
to be losing their co-founders here, but at least someone internal, their head of business,
is stepping up to lead the company going forward, which is still said to be retaining, quote,
most of its roughly 250 employees per the information. Oh yes, and they're getting paid some
percentage of Google's $2.4 billion for their troubles. But back to OpenAI. One has to wonder
if they're going to have even more M&A trouble going forward, at least until they're able to
renegotiate with Microsoft, if they're able to renegotiate with Microsoft. Any deal
seems like it could be at risk now, and it may just ice a bunch of would-be deals,
such as OpenAI trying to be competitive and whatever deal of the moment meta is trying to do
to help them get back into the AI race.
Yes, the I.O. deal with Johnny Ive went through, but that's apparently only because
Microsoft wasn't worried about competing in future AI hardware, which seems short-sighted,
perhaps, if the space actually takes off slash works, end quote.
Over the weekend, sources were telling the FT that XAI was,
preparing a new fundraising round, its third round of fundraising in just two months,
targeting a valuation of $170 billion to $200 billion, which would be up $10x from its May
2024 valuation of $18 billion.
And then within hours, sources were telling the journal that SpaceX has agreed to invest
$2 billion in XAI as part of XAI's $5 billion equity fundraise announced by Morgan Stanley last month.
quote, Elon Musk has repeatedly mobilized his business empire to boost the AI startup, which is racing to catch up with OpenAI.
Earlier this year, he merged XAI with X, combining what was a small research lab with a social media platform that helps amplify the reach of its Grock chatbot.
The merger valued the new company at $113 billion.
Musk has long used SpaceX to support his other businesses.
He personally borrowed $20 million from the company to help fund Tesla early in its history and also use SpaceX's equipment.
to set up his tunneling venture, the boring company.
More recently, he turned to SpaceX for a $1 billion loan around the time he was acquiring
what was then called Twitter, which he paid back shortly after taking it out.
SpaceX's investment in XAI may pose risks for Musk's space company.
SpaceX's revenue has jumped in recent years, but the company is investing billions to
develop a new rocket called Starship.
The experimental vehicle is behind schedule and has suffered multiple setbacks this year,
including three consecutive failures in flight and a large explosion during an engine test last month.
SpaceX recently had more than $3 billion in cash on hand, the journal has reported, end quote.
Yeah, and remember way back when SpaceX merged with that solar company Musk also owned,
it's all one conglomerate, really, people. It should just be called Musk Inc. or something.
Or, as Hojina Kajima said on X, quote,
a Musk company has agreed to back the Musk-driven company that recently acquired one of Musk's
companies whose product will soon be integrated into products developed by Musk's other company,
end quote.
TechRadar has an interview with Google president of Android ecosystem Samir Samat,
who just sort of casually mentioned that Google is probably going to combine ChromeOS and Android
into a single platform.
Quoting the verge, Samat, who's responsible for Android's implementation across mobile, wearables,
XR, TV, and Otto added that he's, quote, interested in how people are using their laptops these days,
suggesting he may be adding a new string to his bow. The comment is the closest thing yet to official
confirmation of a change that's been rumored for months. In November 2024, Android Authority reported
that Google is, quote, migrating ChromeOS over to Android with the aim of competing with the iPad.
That process may have already begun with Google itself announcing last June that ChromeOS
will now be developed on large portions of the Android stack. Chromebooks can already run many
Android apps. Meanwhile, Android is getting a little closer to Chrome OS this year with new features
including a desktop mode, resizable windows, and improved support for external displays.
Google bringing its two operating systems under one roof makes a lot of sense on paper,
allowing it to speed up feature development and work on improving functionality on tablets,
where both its current OS's lag behind Apple's iPad OS. Then again, that's been true for a while.
A merger of the two platforms was reported 10 years ago in 2015, and the Verge wrote that
it, quote, makes perfect sense to bring them together two years before that.
This is a change that's been a long time coming, but that means it might be a long time still,
end quote.
Moonshot AI, the Chinese artificial intelligence startup behind the popular Kimmy chatbot,
has released Kimmy K2, a one trillion parameter mixture of experts' architecture model with 32 billion
active parameters, which they say outperforms models like GPT 4.1 and Deepseek V3 on key benchmarks.
Is this another little deep-seek moment or deep-seek echo?
Because, quoting Venture Beat.
Kimmy K-2 does not just answer, it acts, the company stated in its announcement blog.
With Kimmy K-2, Advanced Agentic Intelligence is more open and accessible than ever.
We can't wait to see what you build.
The model's stand-out feature is its optimization for agentic capabilities,
the ability to autonomously use tools, write, and execute code, complete, complex, multi-step
tasks without human intervention.
In benchmark tests, Kimi K2 achieved 65.8 accuracy on a challenging software engineering benchmark,
outperforming most open source alternatives, and matching some proprietary models.
The performance metrics tell a story that should make executives at OpenAI and Anthropic take notice.
Kimmy K2 instruct doesn't just compete with the big players.
It systematically outperforms them on tasks that matter most to enterprise customers.
But here's what the benchmarks don't capture.
Moonshot is achieving these results with a model that costs a fraction of what incumbent
spend on training and inference. While Open AI burns through hundreds of millions on compute for
incremental improvements, Moonshot appears to have found a more efficient path to the same destination.
It's a classic innovator's dilemma playing out in real time. The scrappy outsider isn't just
matching the incumbent's performance. They're doing it better, faster, and cheaper. And the implications
extend beyond mere bragging rights. Enterprise customers have been waiting for AI systems that can
actually complete complex workflows autonomously, not just generate impressive demos.
2 strength on SWE bench verified suggests it might finally deliver on that promise.
Buried in Moonshot's technical documentation is a detail that could prove more significant than the model's
benchmark scores. Their development of the Muon Clip Optimizer, which enabled stable training on
a trillion parameter model with zero training instability. This isn't just an engineering
achievement. It's potentially a paradigm shift. Training instability has been the hidden tax
on large language model development, forcing companies to restart expensive training runs
implement costly safety measures and accept suboptimal performance to avoid crashes.
Moonshot's solution directly addresses exploding attention logits by rescaling weight matrices
in query and key projections, essentially solving the problem at its source rather than applying
band-aids downstream. The economic implications are staggering. If Muon-Clip proves generalizable
and Moonshot suggests it is, the technique could dramatically reduce the computational overhead
of training large models. In an industry where training costs are measured in tens of
millions of dollars, even modest efficiency gains translate to competitive advantages measured in
quarters, not years. More intriguingly, this represents a fundamental divergence in optimization
philosophy. While Western AI labs have largely converged on variations of Adam W,
Moonshots bet on Muon variants suggest they're exploring genuinely different mathematical approaches
to the optimization landscape. Sometimes the most important innovations come not from scaling
existing techniques but from questioning their foundational assumptions entirely.
Moonshot's decision to open source Kimmy K2 while simultaneously offering competitively priced API
access reveals a sophisticated understanding of market dynamics that goes well beyond altruistic
open source principles. At 15 cents per million input tokens for cash hits and $2.50
per million output tokens, Moonshot is pricing aggressively below Open AI and Anthropic while offering
comparable and in some cases superior performance.
But the real strategic masterstroke is the dual availability. Enterprises can start with the API for
immediate deployment, then migrate to self-hosted versions for cost optimization or compliance requirements.
This creates a trap for incumbent providers. If they match Moonshot's pricing, they compress their
own margins on what has been their most profitable product line. If they don't, they risk
customer defection to a model that performs just as well for a fraction of the cost. Meanwhile,
Moonshot builds market share and ecosystem adoption through both channels simultaneously.
The open source component isn't charity, it's customer acquisition.
Every developer who downloads and experiments with Kimmy K2
becomes a potential enterprise customer.
Every improvement contributed by the community reduces Moonshot's own development costs.
It's a flywheel that leverages the global developer community
to accelerate innovation while building competitive modes
that are nearly impossible for closed source competitors to replicate, end quote.
Finally today, some Netflix analysis.
According to Nielsen, Netflix's share of the most watched shows on streaming,
from greater than 80%, that's again share of the most-washed shows in 2021, to only around 50% now.
Quoting Bloomberg.
This isn't all that surprising.
Netflix has gone from being one of three major streaming services to one of seven or eight.
Rival services have added tens of millions of customers over the last few years as those
services get to scale.
Their biggest hits can rival Netflix's biggest hits as well.
Amazon, Apple, HBO, Max, Hulu, and Paramount Plus all have shows in the top ten so far this year.
Yet no other service delivers as many hits on a consistent basis as Netflix because no other service is used by as many people or spends as much money.
While Netflix's share of the top shows is slipping, it still accounts for more hits than every other service combined.
It also accounts for more viewing than Disney Plus, Hulu, and Peacock combined as well, end quote.
Yes, but as the New York Times points out, the real action is one battlefield over.
YouTube and Netflix are increasingly locked.
in a battle over TV. Full stop in the U.S. Nielsen says YouTube was 12.5% of all TV viewing time in May
above Netflix's 7.5. Quote, the brutal truth is that YouTube is indeed the biggest competitor
of Netflix at this point, says Jason Kalar, the founding chief executive of Hulu, and a former
chief executive of WarnerMedia. And YouTube's lead keeps getting wider. Two years ago, YouTube's share
of TV time was roughly half a percentage point higher than Netflix's. Now it's five percentage
points. Their strategies for success are very different, but in ways large and small, it's becoming
clear that they are now competing head on. Top executives at both companies are beginning to mention
each other in public more, sometimes dismissively, and the companies are veering into each other's
turf, with Netflix executives showing an increased appetite for signing up creators who otherwise
call YouTube their home and trying to explain why their business model would be better for them.
Both companies are competing from a position of strength. Netflix's revenue in 2024 reached
$39 billion, and it has more than 300 million global subscribers more than any other streaming service.
The company is also hugely profitable. Netflix had more than $10 billion in operating income last
year. YouTube, which is owned by Google, had revenue of $54 billion last year. The only media
company with more was Disney. Moffat Nathanson, a media analyst group, projected that YouTube
would eclipse Disney in revenue this year and described it as the new king of all media. The company
He does not disclose profits, but Moffat Natheson estimated that YouTube's operating income was just under $8 billion in 2024.
On average, YouTube has an audience of 7 million viewers watching off a TV set at any given moment during the day,
more than Netflix's daily average of 4.7 million, Nielsen said. During prime time hours, however,
when the highest concentration of viewers is watching TV, the margins are tighter. An average of 11.1 million
Americans are tuned into YouTube on their TV screens at night this year, while 10.7 million are watching Netflix.
Nielsen said, end quote.
Nothing more for you today. Talk to you tomorrow.
