Test Match Special - CWC Day 18: India show their class to leave Pakistan on the brink

Episode Date: June 16, 2019

A Pakistani supporter may have arrived at the ground on an beautiful horse but there was nothing elegant about the performance of the men in green at Old Trafford. Former star all-rounder turned Prime... Minister Imran Khan tweeted before the match that Sarfaraz must be bold and bat first....he put India in and Rohit, Rahul and Kohli all made him pay. Graeme Swann and Prakash Wakankar give their assessment of the match whilst Aatif Nawaz has another chastening loss to his big rivals to stew on. You'll also hear from the two captains and KL Rahul.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. The Dakar Rally is the ultimate off-road challenge. Perfect for the ultimate defender. The high-performance Defender Octa, 626 horsepower twin turbo V8 engine and intelligent 6D dynamics air suspension. Learn more at landrover.ca. BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Available every day during the conference.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Cricket World Cup. This is the TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. Corsetra Bowls. He smashed it. Smash it high down the ground for six. Into the seething crowd it goes. You've never seen anything like this all around the ground. Bonfires are going in the sand at the far end.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Australia have won the 1987 World Cup. And straight towards Stokes, it takes an incredible, one-handed catch. Unbelievable. Welcome to the TMS podcast from Old Trafford, where India have beaten Pakistan again in the World Cup on the day in which you've had just about everything, a row-hit century, rain, incredible noise, and a fan-arriving pre-match on a white horse.
Starting point is 00:01:17 A post-match thoughts of Graham Swan and Prakash Okanker coming right on. From BBC Radio 5 Live, this is the TMS podcast at the Cricket World Cup. So a rather farcical end to this match after an hour-long rain delay when the game was all but up. Pakistan had to come back to bat five overs needing to score 136 at 27.2 runs per over to win the game.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Needless to say, that target wasn't reached with India ultimately winning by 89 runs via the DLS. So looking back, interesting, Imran Khan said, unless the pitch is damp, I want my team to bat first he said issued a tweet five of them
Starting point is 00:02:03 aimed at the five tweets there were a sequence of five tweets right okay well in there he said I want you to bat first if you win the toss and South France side the bowl first so I don't know if that's got him in hot water with the Prime Minister or whether it was in fact a bit damper but it didn't really do very much did it? You listen to him Ryan if he speaks
Starting point is 00:02:18 no it didn't do it a lot it was a very good pitch actually very good pitch in the off it didn't look like it was a bowling wicket did it? No. Overhead conditions maybe would have convinced you with a red ball, with the juke's ball that might have swung round, but these white balls just don't behave like that. So I think they handed the initiative straight away to India. That being said, I guess Virat Koli did say that if he'd won the toss, he would have bowed.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So to that extent, I don't think you can blame Sera's for that call now. And with rain around in the afternoon, you like to know what's going on when you're batting second. Interesting that, that Rahul and Sharma had never opened the batting before. You could rather tell that in the running between the wickets. Yeah, that was the closest chance. they had. Well, it was. I mean, they've run Rohit Sharma out early. Who knows? Who knows? But in fact, the throw went to the wrong end.
Starting point is 00:03:02 The bowler Wahab dropped it anyway before finally recovering and throwing it to the keeper's end when Rohit was safe by them, but it was a lovely innings. It's funny how you can tell when bats don't know that's a understanding, isn't it? We're a bit jerky and so on. Let's talk about
Starting point is 00:03:19 Rohit's innings, though. I mean, he's amazing. His third innings, he's all right? Two-hundreds and a 50, I mean. Yes, it's unbelievable. And I think, if I recall correctly, those sequence of four-fifties, now the fifth, he's actually either broken or equaled the record that I think Satchentendulkar twice, Virad Koli twice, and Ajinkir-Rahane once have got that sequence of 50s in ODI cricket consecutive games, consecutive innings. So that's just terrific news from an Indian perspective. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Not just from Indian perspective. In the sweep, the BBC sweep for the highest run scorer, Graham Swan picked out Roet Sharma. Have you got him? I've just remembered now This is brilliant news He's in the form of his life I don't see I think I find that Aaron Finch
Starting point is 00:04:02 are still seeing him off though No, Finch will Have you got Finch? Have you got Aaron Finch? I've got Aaron Finch But India are going to get to play in the final Australia around I thought at the time
Starting point is 00:04:09 It was quite a good choice But um And Cook's got roots So I think they've put that one two and three on it Oh no they're where Shaki have gone Is he's still he's dropped down a bit Yeah Finch top 343
Starting point is 00:04:21 Oh miles clear Roeat Shama 319 Warner and Joe Root 2-7-9. Warner's face, 900 balls, though, together. It was interesting. Sharma just seemed to get a little bit casual when he got his 100,
Starting point is 00:04:34 and just a couple of wafty drives. But Coley was batting with him at a time. Came down, and you could see him, saying, come on, you know, tighten up. And it was just the right person to have batting with him, actually. And actually, when he got out, it was a genuine shock.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I thought, I just, a double-hundred, it was almost written in the wind at that point. It just played a sort of straight-batting pool shot down the ground, one bounce before. The very next ball, He tried a scoop shot. And, you know, I would never question about practice a shot and bring this to the game,
Starting point is 00:05:02 but there are certain shots that certain players just simply don't need to play. And Roeichan was that good down the ground. Yes. And all overplace that he should put that one in the locker. And I think he realised that as well. It's very aggressive way he hit his pad with his bat. Pakistan's feeling, we mentioned the runout.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Opportunity, Michelle. But just generally, they didn't, it was that sort of, that rather vague Pakistan that turned up today. It was sort of rather scruffy in the field. It wasn't that all-on that we saw against England, for instance, in which they were so razor-sharp. It was the other ones that turned up today. Yes, unfortunately, from a Pakistan point of view, yes. And yet, I guess, think about it, the first boundary of the game, Royed Sharma, streaky inside edge, passed his leg's time, a fine leg for four. There was another one later on in the innings just
Starting point is 00:05:48 before his hundred. In the case of both Shoyb Malik and Salfras Ahmed, the inside-age going on to the stumps. I mean, there's always that element of luck that you need. Absolutely. And I think today it's fair to say that the fate has favoured India, taking nothing away from the clinical performance and nothing about, nothing to say as far as the way they've executed their plans, but you do need that luck. And today, Pakistan didn't have it. Yes. And there's Koli then. Another, just another typical Koli inings, really, wasn't it? 77 from 65 balls, some beautiful strokes. It's his placement. It's so amazing, isn't it? He seems to, perhaps you were good enough to have this one.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I don't know. I never was. But he seems to have a sort of a, like a GPS of the field and where every fielder is standing. And he knows exactly what angle, what deflection to play, to have his bat in order to beat them. It's amazing. Well, it's the difference between world-class batsmen
Starting point is 00:06:45 and the best in the world. And the person who, we're delighted, I'm delighted as English, who can do it, is Joe Root. Very similarly, when he played down the western, Southampton the other day exactly the same when he gets a half-folly and he plays a drive it goes straight into a gap it's not just to the left or right it's straight in the middle of the gap
Starting point is 00:07:03 and Coley's exactly the same it's just practice and pure talent it's no don't they gorgeous it's not today gorgeous there's that story about Colin Cowdery that Chris always told me that Colin will be able to pick out if he's playing well which boundary board to hit when he's playing his cover drive for instance
Starting point is 00:07:18 he'd be the advertising hoarding and if Colin was playing well he'll know that that's where I'll be hitting it boom and he was absolutely He would hit the advertising hoarding. And that's, well, that's like same as, it's coldly, isn't that? It's the same thing. Yes, but he took the Mickey out of short, fine leg. He knew exactly where he was.
Starting point is 00:07:34 So he hit one forward past his left hand, then another one passed his right hand with consecutive balls. I mean, he's absolutely brilliant like that. And one shot, that rasping cover drive that he played off Riaz. Cricy. I mean, you know how sometimes you see a bat to get on the front foot and then the bat comes through to plays the shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 What all happened at the same time, The foot went down, the bat came through, bang, absolutely. I mean, it went like a missile through extra cover. It had a certain amount of brutality about it. It was aggressive intent, and it was. It was poetic. For such a graceful, Ristie Blair, he has got that brutal, sightly. He does, and I think that kind of a shot almost demoralizes you as a bowler, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:08:16 I mean, you come in and you charge it, and he just sort of dismisses it with a flourish. You turn around quietly, walk back to your mark off that way. I think everyone understands in the grand. That's not your fault. Yeah. So a little bit of a flutter. I mean, we've looked at that, sort of that stage. See, what, the 285 for two.
Starting point is 00:08:33 We could get about 350, 360, even 370 we're talking about at one stage. It didn't happen, though, because, well, Pandeyer got to 26 quickly. At Amir took three wickets, actually, and just pulled things back about it. I mean, he's head and shoulders above the rest of the Pakistan. I doubtedly. I mean, you take Mohammed Amir out of this attack and you could be looking at 400. but who knows. But he was just so good, wasn't he, again? And I think India came in with a plan, didn't they, Swanee.
Starting point is 00:09:00 They decided that they weren't going to do anything flash with Amir, play him out quietly and don't give him too many early wickets. And when they tried to score off him later on, I mean, he got three big wickets. What was it? Pandia, Adoni and Koli. It was just three wickets. Yeah. Domi, Doni, he got the cheer of the day, I think, when it came out to bat him. And the crowd had been up for everybody, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:09:23 but I still think that Doni, when he came about and his name was read out over the Tannoy, he just got a bit more. He really got a fantastic ovation from everybody. Actually, I can tell you, our car park here is at the football ground, isn't it? It's half a mile, three-quarters of our walk. And I could hear the announcements as I got out of my car today,
Starting point is 00:09:41 and Virac Koli and MS. Donia can hear from the car park. Oh, that's not bad. The cheer was enormous. However, it was also an enormous Pakistani cheer when he had got only one. So he was caught behind. He threw the bat. a ball from Amir and edged it. So that was the end of that. Shankar 15 and Yadav 9. So 336 for 5.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It always looked as if it was going to be too many. I must mention Amir's 3, 4, 47. And they just needed a good start. And it didn't really happen. I thought, Imam actually played one or two nice shots at the start of the innings. But Baba Azam played nicely for his 48 as you'd expect. But then the wicket starts to fall as Pakistan got behind. with the rate. India's attack, I mean, we know them pretty well by now, but doesn't it really show the benefit of a left-arm wrist spinner? You look at that, well, like Zaman's dismissal, a little sweep,
Starting point is 00:10:35 but there's an extra bounce again that the wrist spinner gets. It shows different playing two class spinners, I think. Yes. Bowling tandem. Spinners has a pair in one-day cricket. They utilised properly, mightily effective for so much more than the balls they're bowling, for the overall control of the game,
Starting point is 00:10:52 the tiny of the screws, England seemed to have lost that, either knowledge of it, that that happens. Yes. Are you grumpy, they left Moe now? Oh, absolutely, because I think Moe and Adele are worth way more than some of their parts when they're together.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But I think they're shown up a little bit when they play on their own. I don't think they're anywhere near as effective as they could be. Yeah, it's interesting. So they actually help each other, you think? Seed off each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:16 The spin delivery of the tournament so far, Baburazam Bowl by... It was a good end. It did spin, didn't it? It was a good and, yeah. I mean, Cody, it's a brilliant bowler. Like I said earlier, his first two games over in England last year in the T20 and then the one day, as he was incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:30 England didn't have a clue. As the series went on, his effectiveness diminished quite rapidly, actually, once they got used to him. But in the World Cup, the beauty is you play against teams, the first time a lot of people will have faced him in an international game. So he could have a very good World Cup, and he bought his bowl well today. Well, let's hear from both captains, shall we, a rather tasting afternoon for Sarfraz. He and Coley have been speaking to Sanjay Mandraker. I've got the Pakistani captain here with me, Sir Fraz, you want an important toss
Starting point is 00:11:57 and Weirat also was very keen to bowl first, but just not potent enough, I guess. Far too many runs on the board to begin with? We win a good toss, but unfortunately we didn't bowl on the right area and clearly goes to the road. He played really well. Pakistan, India is done. Now, it's all about getting points on the table. Do you think now it's getting tougher and tougher as the matches are going by? Definitely it's tougher and tougher, but we have to back ourselves.
Starting point is 00:12:20 We have four matches, so we will try by level best to all four matches. match it will. So, inshallah, we will bounce back. All the best, sir, sir. Thank you. So that was Sir Fraz Ahmed, the Pakistani captain, Virot Kohli, the winning captain of India. Well, it's been great so far. You lost the toss you wanted to feel first, but in the end, when you look at it, it just panned out perfectly for you.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Well, to be honest, I mean, the pitch wouldn't have made so much of a difference. The only factor being that the ball started turning in the, in the, probably the, the, the, late last half of our in batting innings and that was the only factor that I thought was different but yeah we wanted to bowl first overcast conditions the pitch had something in it so if you if you bowl in the right areas I think you had enough there for the bowlers yeah batting first you know people don't realize how important that opening stand was you had a new opening batsman as well so I just love the way India is sort of laying the foundation being disciplined and then cashing in yeah look the template's been really nice in the first three games till now
Starting point is 00:13:22 I mean, Rohit single-handedly playing that brilliant knock in the first. Second was, again, a team-batting effort. This one as well, I mean, Rohit's knock was outstanding again. But you could say that to get to 335, 340, 3-50, you need a team-batting effort. And that's exactly what happened today as well. You know, KEL set a good foundation with Rohit. Then, Rohit, after getting to 70-75 is unstoppable. And he showed why he's such a good ODI player again today.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And then, you know, it allowed me to play a certain kind of role. then Harthik can come and explode. And that's the kind of template we've followed. And it's worked till now. It gives us a lot of solidarity in the middle. I'm happy playing that role for the team. The other guys are doing their role perfectly. So, yeah, it's going really nicely at the moment.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Let's hear now from Kael Rahul, who's with Nikesh Rigaun. Kael, thank you for joining us here on the BBC. Fantastic performance from India in the end. Another victory over your bitter rivals. You must be feeling great. Yeah, we do. I mean, it's so clinical the last couple of games. I mean, the one we played against Australia, we thought we did everything right, every skill, fielding, batting and bowling we did exactly as we planned and what we spoke about.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And we came here and we did one better today. And, yeah, it's just pleasing the way that we're playing. I know the winning obviously feels great to the team, but the way we're winning, the way we're sticking our plans and the way we're executing our skills has been great to see and hopefully we can carry that forward. Obviously, a massive, massive game against your bitter rivals. that you know it's the showpiece event at any cricket world cup but important to continue that winning momentum after that rain affected match against new zealand which was abandoned without a ball being bold you needed to get back to winning ways and you have done so yeah i mean a bit of a bummer that you know in a big stage like this in a world cup like this you know the weather plays its part and it's just disappointing for players not to get out on the field and perform and get out there and enjoy themselves but yeah we need to keep our heads in the right and just keep focusing on playing good cricket. And we've done that so far and hopefully we carry that again. You yourself batting at the top of the order today.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Did pretty well. You had to weather a bit of an early storm. Decent bowling from the likes of Muhammad Amir early on. How did you find that change in role? Yeah, obviously I've had to wait on the sidelines for a long time to get my opportunity to bat in the top order. And yeah, obviously, look, the talk obviously in the meetings was that, meetings was that we need to play out the first few overs from Ahmed and Hassan or whoever starts
Starting point is 00:15:53 the bowling. The new ball here in England with the conditions like that and the pitch has been under the cover for the last couple of days so there was going to be a bit of help so it was important for us to see that through and then once we saw that through then you know the way we batted to get to 3.30 on wicked like this was great. Just very quickly I know we've got to wrap up a quick word for your thousands of supporters that have turned up here today in big numbers. Yeah, I'm firstly really, really happy, you know, that they got to see a game because I know not just us, but all the crowds, all the fans from India, people watching were obviously wanting to see India, Pakistan happen firstly. So, yeah, to get a game like that and to put up a show like that for them, obviously, it feels great for us. And, yeah, I'm sure even for them, just to come and watch the way we've played the 190 overs that we did was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And their support, obviously, not just this game, but every game in the World Cup. The two games that we've played, they've been patient, and they've been supporting us all throughout. So, yeah, we're sure that they will come in big numbers for the rest of the games, too. So looking forward to the rest of the games in the World Cup. Thanks for your time and best of luck. Cheers. From BBC Radio 5 Live, this is the TMS podcast at the Cricket World Cup. Now, you can watch highlights of the match for the BBC Sport website on the app.
Starting point is 00:17:09 My favourite, a remarkable Ro-hit cut shot for six. But what of Pakistan? Well, the writing looked on the wall early on with a decision. to put India in and then failing to take early wickets. Attie now, as is here, from the BBC Dusre podcast. Well, how's your day been, first of all? It's been delightful, Agnes. How's your day been?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Well, I thought you might sort of go on the occasion a bit, rather than the outcome or possible potential outcome. I think eventually I will. I just need a bit of time to grieve. Oh, you're taking, oh, dear. Yeah, now, it's really nice, you know. It's a really nice occasion. The fans have been great, especially just being amongst the.
Starting point is 00:17:46 them and just listening to, you know, the chance and the, it was really good spirit and stuff. Today's game was played, particularly between the fans, you know, all the banter on the back and and the board. And you've seen, you've seen Pakistan and Indian supporters sitting there together, bantering together, but having fun together and actually being pleasant and not hostile and all these things that you sort of, you dread. Absolutely. I mean, I saw quite a nice thing. Just as I was walking up here, it's just a Pakistani fan's kind of walking, rejected,
Starting point is 00:18:13 and getting a hug from an Indian fan, saying, ah, don't worry, you'll be all right. You've got Africa next. It was just nice. It was a nice kind of gesture. It was quite sweet. I think there is a bit of a kind of a class disparity between the teams right now. It really does show in those crucial moments. And it's difficult for Pakistani fans because they've kind of,
Starting point is 00:18:30 a lot of the people on the ground, like people of a certain generation, certainly my generation, have seen, you know, some of the all-time great Pakistani players play. So to see them kind of almost outmatched completely is a bit disappointing. A reminder of how good India are. They were super, I mean, they're incredible. I mean, for an Indian fan, I can only imagine how it was a dream come true, really, just to watch Roy, it's Sherma, get a century, then Verac Coli batting so beautifully, and, you know, all of their players kind of,
Starting point is 00:18:57 before you've got those kind of box office moments from India that you expected. That, I suppose, to an extent, the Pakistani bowlers provided some as well, you know, Mahmadanar bowled really well. Yes. There was some nice catching, some excellent fielding by Imam. He just seemed like he was doing laps just in front of me every other over. But, yeah, it was, I mean, there was some lovely moments in the game. for the longest time it seemed like Pakistan might be competitive as well
Starting point is 00:19:18 and just that little barrage of wickets took the steam out of the game a little bit it made it almost a foregone conclusion and yeah I think that's what a lot of Pakistani fans found more disappointing than anything else I would say do you worry that this could be Pakistan gone now I think it would take some kind of Herculean effort to get themselves back into the tournament because they're also reliant on results from other teams now they've got to win all their last games and you know it's easier said than done you know, South Africa making a bit of a resurgence after the most recent win, and, you know, Bangladesh, these, you know, they're not, they're not just, they're not an easy team to be nowadays, of course not, even Afghanistan who beat Pakistan coming into the tournament. So they've got some difficult games ahead. It's, it's going to be hard for Pakistan. At this point, it's just about, I think, for them to do their best, give their fans the best possible moments they can and make a good showing for themselves. These matches are always like a spectacle within a spectacle. So, you know, there's a different kind of
Starting point is 00:20:13 pressure that goes with it. But I think they'll be disappointed. They didn't get a little bit closer. Good to see the players and the rapport were the players too out there, isn't it? I mean, they sort of rise above it all too, don't they? And they get on fine. And you wander around the commentary boxes here, and there's, you know, former Indian and Pakistan. They're mates. And you could feel that today. I remember which Indian bats it was now. We went out, he picked the ball up and he tossed it back to the bowler. And, you know, it's just played in a really good way today. It really is. I mean, historically, it's been played quite well. I mean, by this funny, Indian teams have been very, very close.
Starting point is 00:20:43 They probably feel they have to in a way, too. There's a responsibility for them not to overreact or not to cause a flashboard. I'm sure they feel like compensating a little bit for, you know, the international situation, the kind of tensions between the countries. But I think it comes quite naturally to them, you know, that kind of relationship and, you know, share so many things, share so many things culturally. We're talking about food. We're talking about language, you know, fashion, entertainment, all of it is so unique. and, you know, I was just a little while ago, I was interviewing Chacha Cricket, who's like... Oh, he's here, is he?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah, yeah, so I did a little interview with him on pitch side, and when I did that, I did it in Urdu, because he speaks Urdu, and it's basically the same language as Hindi, essentially, and it was really nice to see all the Indian fans, kind of giving him that respect and cheering him along. So there's a lot of reverence for, and equally in the Pakistan side, I've had so many pictures sent to me this week. It's the current trend in Pakistan of spotting people in Pakistan wearing Virak Koli-esque merchandise. So there's people with their motorcycles decorated with Coley-like things. There's a great appreciation just for the sport of cricket and the way it's played so well in both countries. And I think for that reason, it's quite nice. Even in a game like this, which kind of went a bit one-sided
Starting point is 00:21:54 and it would be disappointing for the team losing. There was loads of nice moments, which is quite good. Yeah, well, good. What did you do to say, really? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Because they get so built up these games, aren't they? And sometimes it can be a disappointment. And the way it's finished is a disappointment.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I mean, you know, it's a damp squib in there. Let's, should we go Stato now? Has it been a Stato's dream as well as a Pakistani and Indian cricket fans dream to have the game played today? It's been a solid day for stats, I think. Solid. You know, not necessarily one of the all-time great days.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, Coley fastest batsman to 11,000 runs of the nine players who've reached all of whom obviously to get that many runs, greats of the one-day game. He was the quickest by more than 50 innings ahead of Satchin Tendulka. I mean, that is incredible, isn't it? Just, I mean, if we just actually just take that stat in,
Starting point is 00:22:45 he's got their 50-odd innings before Satchin Tendulka did. Yes. It's just, I mean, that says everything, isn't it? It's the way he's gone about it to get those runs, though. Many of his hundreds in chasing big totals, he's the expert of chasing. He's got about 30 hundreds, doesn't he, chasing?
Starting point is 00:23:00 And I've never seen him play in ugly innings. He's a glorious man to watch. My respect for him is tripled on this, tour well quadruple maybe first for the Steve Smith thing for going to his fan saying stop booing him clap him because I made my
Starting point is 00:23:17 thoughts clear on booing at the start of this year I think it's boorish and disgraceful to be honest and shouldn't be celebrated by English fans and then walked off today when he thought it was out and I'm happy to restate my claims for the world of cricket here that if you nick it and you stand that you're cheating doing the excuse of I'm waiting for the umpire to give me out
Starting point is 00:23:39 is a very poor effort for my vote it's like diving in football but he walked off turned out he didn't even hit it he's that fair these days he goes off when he's not out well he has to even it out right it's hard enough to get the guy out so Virac Coley for President of the World gets my vote and I'll canvas
Starting point is 00:23:55 I'll canvas for it okay fair enough Rohit Sharma scored his 13th hundred in his last 51 day innings and only one player has more and that in a 50 one-day inning sequence. That is Coley, who had 16 in the sequence that ended in December of last year. So two of the finest players in one-day international cricket history. And just looking at their recent stats, since the last World Cup,
Starting point is 00:24:21 270 batsmen have batted more than 10 times in ODI cricket. Coley is averaging 77 in over four years since the last World Cup, 1900s and 18 other 50s in 72 innings. So he's top Ross Taylor, very underrated player. He's averaging 68. Vanda Dusson of South Africa only paid 11 innings with a few not out, 66. And then Roit Sharma, averaging 64, 1700s in 74 innings. Look at his sixes.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, and 136 sixes amongst that, which is really quite extraordinary. So, yeah, he said over 500 boundaries since the 2015 World Cup. There was an interesting stat I've just picked up on. In the entire history of World Cup cricket, before eight days ago, there only been four occasions on which the top three of a team had all made 50 in over 400 games of World Cup cricket, and then the Indians have now done it twice in a week.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And you said this wasn't a classic for stats. Underplayed it, Andy Salisman. Yeah, quite right. We discussed this a lot on the Nusra podcast. We really do feel that a lot of this is a byproduct of the IPL, their exposure to so many incredible. players in those high pressure environment. It's almost like the cricket
Starting point is 00:25:33 the cricketers are evolving from that scenario. They're using that, they're building, they're becoming this kind of mutant race of like over-talented cricketers. I mean, it just shows like the only team that really rivals India for depth is England, really. You know, they're the only other team that has an incredible depth of
Starting point is 00:25:50 talent where their second elevens could have a very competitive game with pretty much anybody else in the world. And it just shows that when you've got that unlimited resource, well, I say unlimited resource, but, you know, vast resource and access to some of the best facilities in the world and obviously access to some of the best players and exposure to some of the best players, it has a knock-on effect on your team.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah, sure, and you're playing such pressure situations often. This is it, and it's telling. This is what we're talking about. India versus Pakistan, a billion people watching it. It doesn't get more high pressures than that. And the Pakistani, they have the PSL, they don't get exposure to the IPA, they're not involved in that tournament. You know, they come here and they pick a counter championship.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Some people play the blast in England. some of them will even go to the Big Bash every now and again but they'll never really get to experience that pinnacle of pressure that the IPL has become and for that reason I think they're always going to be just a step behind India and they're going to need India to have a bad day to succeed. The TMS podcast available every day during the Cricket World Cup.
Starting point is 00:26:52 This is Owen Morgan. Thanks for listening to the TMS podcast at the Cricket World Cup. There will be a new episode each day throughout the tournament. It is such a good podcast that I listen to it before I bat, when I bat, and after I bat,
Starting point is 00:27:05 just so I can listen to Tuffers give me some advice on my cover drive, my pull shot, how I don't play the short ball, have my reverse sweep, all those very interesting things. There were an estimated
Starting point is 00:27:16 800,000 applications for tickets for this match. It was with Indian fans going home happy, but a really special and memorable atmosphere to be a part of. Ancoeur Desai
Starting point is 00:27:26 was out meeting supporters during the Thank you, Agus. Yeah, it's been an amazing occasion. So much noise, so much color. I can still see fans featuring at the station, but still singing and beating the drums and still singing their songs as well and waving their flags. And I wanted to some fans who've traveled some distances to get here as well. Alicia, how far have you traveled? I came from Atlanta, United States of America, all the way here. It was an eight-hour trip. I'm sure you spent a lot of money. Yes, we came a family of five, so we did spend a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:28:00 The tickets are overpriced, but well worth the view and the experience. Is a game like this priceless? It is priceless. It is a once-in-a-lifetime kind of experience, and I love it. What's so special about an Indian-Pakistan rivalry and watching a game here? We love our neighbors, however, it's just that it's been bought up in the culture, and we grew up watching this India-Pakistan craze, and now it's built into us. So it's a priceless experience.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I love the fact that it's Father's Day and they gave us the best gift that we could imagine. So thank you Pakistani players. We love it. Well, speaking of Father's Day, I've bumped into a father and a mother with a lovely little baby here as well. But what I love about this relationship is,
Starting point is 00:28:44 Father, you're an India fan and Mother, you're a Pakistan fan. So tell me how this dispute is sort of solved over cricket. Oh. Does this mean you're going to be doing the dishes or he's going to be doing the dishes? Oh, he's asking me the treat and so many stuff because I lose everything. So we were, I was expecting I'm going to win anyway. But like, you know, I'm very disappointed, you know, whatever they do. So it's really disappointed.
Starting point is 00:29:10 So I don't know. I don't know what to say. Oh, she's crying. I mean, look, I mean, this means that treats are on her or on you. Because within Asian households, whoever wins has to treat usually, right? Yeah. Anyway, treat, I have to give her the treat. It's not, it's just, you know, for the game purpose,
Starting point is 00:29:27 I tell her just, you know, if Pakistan lose, you need to give her the treat. But anyway, I will give her the treat because I'm happy India win today. I'm traveling from London. We left the house yesterday at 12 o'clock, last night. We were asleep all night, though. So we just find out somebody selling that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:42 the ticket in Birmingham. So we travel all over to Birmingham in the last minute. So he didn't tell me even the day before or hour before. And we bought it very expensive. very expensive tickets. How much come and tell me how much you spent? 800 pounds for the tickets. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yes. Yes. So, you know, I was very excited, but you know, I'm very disappointed now. No problem. Neighbor wants, no problem. You need to be happy for the neighbors, you know. Oh, okay. It's an interesting relationship to have, having an India fan and a Pakistan fan.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We know historically, politically, there are these tensions, but I love that love has brought you guys together and that you have a wonderful relationship and you can put cricket aside as well. have people same only just the border you know I never feel my wife she's from Pakistan but it's same you know it's same relationship same culture love same everything same and she never feel me like I'm from India love has no boundaries of borders no no not at all and I believe we all should like you know respect each other and the main thing is who is gonna be win who is working hard and playing very well so we should support them so
Starting point is 00:30:46 I definitely are gonna be said to India Congratulations, because they play very well. The TMS podcast at the Cricket World Cup. Download and subscribe via the BBC Sounds app for a new episode every day. So to our little challenge here to try and get a listener to our podcast from every country in the world. An excellent response to our request on Saturday's episode for emails from listeners in Africa. Thanks to John Pears, I think he is in Namibia, Craig Heyman in Botswana, Alistair Cranfield in Sierra Leone for getting in touch elsewhere. Andy, go on.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Comes from Justin Gibbs. He says having been to Madrid for the Champions League final and following England over in Porta. I'm now in Morocco. After popping to the loo on the... Did we need that detail, Justin? After popping to the loo on the train from Casablanca to Mechnaz, I returned to find one of the elderly lady sitting opposite me had helped herself to my copy of the latest well-known cricketing almanac.
Starting point is 00:31:43 She seemed very intrigued by the bizarre yellow book and was very impressed by the picture of kids' play. in Bangladesh. I did think I'd hit the jackpot when I saw a local man in one of the cafes drinking his coffee. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him wearing an England under-19 cricket world cup top. You don't see many of them in England, let alone Morocco. I rushed over to ask how he got into cricket. Alas, he did not speak English. Oh, extraordinary story. Rupert Sadler, lounging by the pool.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Of my friend's traditional villa in Bali, Indonesia, was unfortunately hit for six a few days ago by a bout of barley belly, which doesn't sound very nice, but recovery is well underway, and with the help of the TMS podcast, interrupted only by the sounds of chit-chatting geckos and a few noisy birds. Neil Anderson is listening from the Humid Island of Bermuda. Mentioned earlier on today when Shankar took a wicket with his first ball in the World Cup cricket, and one of the only two bowlers to do that was a Bermudan bowler, that famous catch by Dwayne Leverock that shook the planet to its foundations. He says, listening from Bermuda where we should be celebrating our carnival weekend with all night parties and beach fest right through until Monday night
Starting point is 00:32:51 if the forecast were not for thundery showers all weekend. Clearly brain is interfering not only the cricket but people listening to the cricket as well. Ed Jones, I've been listening to the TMS podcast in Colombia. I've done a four-day trek through the Sierra Nevada Mountains
Starting point is 00:33:07 that sounds lovely. And the first thing I did on my return to civilisation was check up on the England versus Bangladesh result. More recently, I was listening to dissect the win over West Indies, whilst on a 60-foot yacht off Columbia's beautiful Caribbean coast. I'm returning home this week, so I'll attempt to bring the sunshine with me. Please do, Ed. I think that's a good place to finish that from a rather gloomy bedraggled Old Trafford.
Starting point is 00:33:28 We have seen some wonderful cricket. Watch the highlights if you get the chance to do so. It is just curious that it ended quite so farcically as it did too. There we go. More cricket tomorrow, of course, from Taunton. It's West Indies against Bangladesh. but at Ford's your company for that and the following podcast. Hi Adel, can I just get you just to record something for the podcast, basically.
Starting point is 00:33:54 All I need you to do is just say, hi, this is Adel Rashid. You're listening to the TMS podcast at the Cricket World Cup. No, no chance. If you want to speak to me, you've got to speak to Moyn Ali. He's my older half, so he vouches for me as well. So if you can get older with me, you've got to get hold of him. Thank you. Thank you.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.