Test Match Special - CWC Day 44: Team of the tournament

Episode Date: July 12, 2019

Jimmy Anderson, Isa Guha, Andy Zaltzman and Prakash Wakankar go through their team of the World Cup so far. Plus Eleanor Oldroyd and Simon Mann reveal the results of a BBC Sport online poll to find ou...t who has been selected by the public.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 you'll be able to watch highlights as the game goes on. But today we're going to select our team of the tournament. Later on in this podcast, I'll be joined by Simon Mann to reveal the results of the BBC Sport poll to find out who you selected as your team of the tournament. But first, Isha Guha, James Anderson, Prakashwakankar and Andy Zaltzman sat down during the rain delay
Starting point is 00:01:51 on the first day of the India against New Zealand's semifinal to work out their team of the tournament. The TMS podcast. every day during the cricket World Cup. James Anderson has been scribbling away at the back of the box to try and get down his team. We heard from Graham Swan the other day. He had about nine England players in his team in the tournament. But we've got a nice balanced view with Prakash joining us and some stats to back things up with Andy as well.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So I'm going to start because I think this is one is fairly obvious as the opener of the tournament. 500, 647 runs to his name, Robert Sharma, almost beating Sartin Tendorka for the number of runs scored in a whole tournament. I don't think anyone can really argue with that one. So 500s to Roit Sharma. The question is, who is opening with him? Jimmy, who have you got? You're definitely saying Roet then for number of times.
Starting point is 00:02:45 No, yeah, you can't disagree with Roit with the World Cup he's had. I do wonder if Roy had had to play every game whether he'd, you know, being contention. But he didn't, though, Jimmy. No, he didn't, so he's not. I'd say he's in contention. Basically, opening up with Sharma,
Starting point is 00:03:08 I've got two names down, Aaron Finch and Johnny Berstow. I think Finch's had a, not just the weight of runs he scored, but his strike rate's over 100. And Johnny Birstow, since Jason Roy came back, those 200s he scored were fantastic.
Starting point is 00:03:26 and helped England get into the semi-finals. So it's a real toss-up for me between those two. Another name could be David Warner, or as England fans call him, David Warner Boo, who's on 638 runs. Average 79 hasn't hit traditional Warnierian strike rates, 89 per 100 balls. But three centuries, three other 50s.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I think you could make a very good case for Jason Roy, even in the five innings, partly because of, I know, in baseball they have a stat, wins above replacement in terms of you know the you see how good a player is when he's not in the team and the difference of England with and without Roy he's had five innings he's reached
Starting point is 00:04:05 50 and four of them including 153 averaging 68 and a strike rate of 114 and we've seen teams not attacking nearly so much in the opening turnovers as we've become used to certainly watching one day cricket in England in the last four years and he's been one opening batsman who constantly
Starting point is 00:04:21 has successfully attacked early on so I think I would probably have Roy, alongside Roeth Sharma, in my team of the tournament. So not Johnny Berto and Aaron Finch? And also, I think when Roy came back in, it was his innings that really changed the tone of England's batting against India. And Beresto started that game very edgily. And it was almost Roy, the influence of Roy, I think, goes beyond his own numbers.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Prakash, I'm going to bring you in here. I have to have a left-right opening combination. And so David Warner, for me, without question, because that's what affects Polars is my belief. And therefore, I would go with Warner, and Sharma. And I think that'll be the opening pair of the tournament for me without question. Also with regard to Roe, Sharma, it's 300s in a row, 102, 104, 103 is the worst ever three consecutive centuries in the history of ODI cricket. The poultry, 309 runs. No one's ever
Starting point is 00:05:15 scored so few runs in a run of three consecutive centuries. Okay. Thanks for Andy. It's a manufactured step. Swinging it all are, practice. make them how you want them to be. That's exactly what you're saying. Is it, Andy? Yes. Well, I've often said that.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Statistic is like a ventriloquist dummy. You shove your hand far enough up it. You can make you say whatever you want. On that note, right-hand, left-hand combination. Jimmy, how hard is it to bowl at a right-hand and left-hand combination? It's not as hard as people might think. I actually don't mind it. I actually quite like.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I think, you know, once I've developed my skills enough, so the outswing are mainly to a left-hander. I actually quite like having that left-hander at the top because you generally do get some movement and some bounds with the white ball. You might not swing too much through the air, but you can get that bounce, it brings the edge into play. So I don't mind it too much, but it can affect some bowlers, definitely. I was about to say, no wonder he says that because it's Jimmy Andrews,
Starting point is 00:06:19 not too many others would be comfortable, I think. But based on that evidence then, you're still sticking with Finch and Bearstow. yes okay we've thought I think no I think Andy touched on it
Starting point is 00:06:30 Warner's strike rate I know it's still 89 which is pretty good but it's not what you'd expect from David Warner and what he'd normally bring
Starting point is 00:06:39 to a team that sort of electric start and he sort of tried to it feels to me like he's you know he's had a year out and he's trying to find his way back in
Starting point is 00:06:47 and he's yes he scored some he scored a lot of runs over 600 runs which is great but for me I want a bit of I want some power in that top, that top two.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Okay. Yeah, I'd go Roy and Sharma. Okay. Roy and Sharma and you're going Sharma and Warner. So you're going to have to... I'm impartial in this. I'm just trying to navigate through the best team. I'm not allowed to give my opinion.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Right. So how do we choose who's actually getting in the team from the three options there? Let's move on, shall we, to the number three spot. Again, a number one contender in this. You're looking at someone like Shaki Balhassan, who scored over 600 runs, averaging 86 strike rate of 96,
Starting point is 00:07:32 200s to his name, but has not got through to the top four. Who else? That's not really his fault. I mean, that is a tournament-winning performance that he's put in, particularly he's bowled tidily as well. And really, I mean, Bangladesh, they're the worst team,
Starting point is 00:07:53 the least affected bowling team, and we mentioned they've really struggled to get any wickets in the first 30 overs of innings Must have his 20 in the tournament his earliest wicket was the 36th over so Shakyby's been playing in a team
Starting point is 00:08:06 that's not really functioned in the field and he actually said he scored at a good rate scored a match winning century I think he'd be my number three yeah well the other contenders came Williamson Joe Root Barbara Azam they've all been fairly consistent Verac Koli has not scored 100 in this tournament
Starting point is 00:08:22 but he's picked up 550s Jimmy, who have you gone with? Shacki, not even a contest for me for the number three spot. I think he's been absolutely fantastic. Not only with bat, he's obviously great with the ball, number one all round in the world. Batting at three, you know, it can be a tricky spot to bat at times, but I think he's found a real good balance of, you know, his strike rate 96.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I think it's just brilliant. And scoring the volume of runs he has, and yet the team's not made it to the semi-finals, like Andy said, That is a, you know, the top four teams that have qualified would give anything to have that sort of power at number three. Completely agree. I don't think in my mind there's any doubt about number three. It will be Shakeep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Well, that was a clear-cut winner, wasn't it? Number three, Shaky Bhāsand. So a bit of conjecture about that top two. Number three, sorted. What about number four? Who have you got, Jimmy? Well, I've sneakily put Virat in there I know he doesn't bat number four
Starting point is 00:09:26 But you're allowed to do that I can do that, yeah Is he? Of course you can For me, I still think Alongside Owen Morgan He's such a strong Character and Captain of the team And he's obviously
Starting point is 00:09:42 He's phenomenal with a bat I know he's not Do you say he's not scored 100 In this tournament I know he's not about 100 but he's still someone who has got the ability to change games with the bat and in the field as captain, he's that good, I think. Who would you go for as your number three, Prakash?
Starting point is 00:10:01 I thought number three was sorted. Sorry, number four now. Number four. Virat, without question. Okay. And captain. So I'm just sort of riding in the wake of Jimmy Anderson's last two choices, and I agree with them completely.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I'm very happy and kicked to be. It depends how you're picking this team because Virat hasn't batted at four in this World Cup So are you picking the person who's been best at number four? I think a lot of people would agree that Virat just needs to be in the team, doesn't he? Yes, who's been best at number four?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Well, no one really. Mushfika Rahim's the top run score are specifically batting at four, 367 runs, average 52 strike rate 92, but no number four is really done particularly well. Ross Taylor's had a very up-and-down tournament I mean, Morgan just won good innings, Hafizers, you know, good innings against England, not much else.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So it's not been a great tournament for fours. It's been a good tournament for ones, twos and three. So I guess that's why we're picking a three at four. So we've all agreed on Virac Koli at number four. Number five. Can we go with another non-number five? Because for me... Where are you getting this player from?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Very close call between Joe Root and King Williamson, frankly, in my head. But Joe Root probably. If I could. I don't think you can play either of them at five, can you? Why not? They're specialist threes. I'm going to throw a name that I think is absolutely cast iron certainty in number five, and that's Ben Stokes.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Well, I've got stakes in the squad. But specifically at five. He scored 371 runs, we're batting five or lower. Four scores over 75. No one's ever done that load out, you know, batting at five or lower in a World Cup before. Scored a variety of innings as well. he's played a fast innings in one of England's games getting the 3rd 375 or 54 against India he had a against Sri Lanka a careful innings and expanded the end of trying it
Starting point is 00:11:57 which looked like he was going to get England over the line against Australia he consolidated up and made a terrible start and again returned in the game before Stark bowling with probably the ball of the tournament and played very well in that opening game at the Oval so for quite different innings all hugely influential within the games they were played in and obviously you get his fielding is bowling as well. I'm going to back ever so slightly. We'll come back to Ben Stokes in just a minute, but we agreed on Virat Koli at 4. If neither of you,
Starting point is 00:12:24 James, you shook your head when Prakash said to have Root or Williamson at 5. You shake his head. The Indian way or the English way because it could mean anything. I think Prakash has been over my shoulder and copy me because I had root down at number 5. I just scribbled him out
Starting point is 00:12:39 when Andy said you can't have it. That's an old Albert from school. Why would you not have Williamson or Root at 4 who have better numbers than Virat Kohle in this tournament? Because Virat's captain. Spot on. Okay, but if you, it wasn't on leadership. I don't know. I've not gone on.
Starting point is 00:13:03 No, I just think going into these last two games, I'd rather have, or going in, with a team of the tournament, I'd rather have Virat at number 4. That's just, that's basically it. Out of those three, I think I'd prefer, I'd be more comfortable. happy to agree with what Andy just said. I've got Stokes in my team.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I just didn't have him at five. I had him at six. But yeah, five is great. Works for me. Okay. Why not, why not Virat or... Sorry, why not Root or Williamson? Well, only if we go with Andy's point that you can't have two people at three
Starting point is 00:13:34 batting at four and five. Otherwise, I would still go with Root as my first choice. You just look at Root and Williamson, both very consistent. Williamson is such a... rock and he has been for new zealand when others have kind of failed around him he scored 548 runs averaging 91 with 200s i mean it's you can't leave him out of the side can you yes you can of course you can before we get back to stoats jo root 500 runs at 62 strike rate of 91 he's picked up 200s with one having to promote himself up to the top order he's got
Starting point is 00:14:12 three 50s as well they're pretty good numbers all the batsmen with really strong numbers in this tournament are batted in the top three essentially so it depends how you're picking this team well here's another angle the fact is that you know one assumes that the team of the tournament will play in theory a team that is equally good which will have some great bowlers which means they could take a couple
Starting point is 00:14:35 quickly so you do need that solidarity with Virat and Joe Root in there just in case there's a... Do you need Shaki Virat and Joe Root you need some you need to have someone coming at five. And Williamson at six as well. There we go. I know a situation where you could have Williamson and Coley in your team. Sean on Twitter has suggested Sharma and Roy.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So two, I know Sharma had a conservative start to the tournament, but he can go big and score quickly. Jason Roy, well, he's definitely someone that's an aggressive opener. Shakib, Williamson at four. Coley at five, is that sacrilege? Well, on the form of this tournament, perhaps right, His number's very similar to Root. He just hasn't got the hundreds.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Other than Stokes, there's not been a huge amount of players doing that well at 4. So Sean has got Stokes at 6, Kerry at 7, then Tahir Woke Stark, an Archer. I'm worried about him. Does he have a camera here? Yeah, well, the bowlers are going to be very hard to figure out in just a second. James is shaking his head, okay. As we say, you can join in, you can select your team of the tournament via the BBC Sport. website you can also email us tms at bbc.co.uk or at bbc tms on twitter so let us know your views so we've got
Starting point is 00:15:54 to stokes are we having him at five or six five five we've got agreement andy well done yes okay so who's at six for you well no one's really banged very well at six so you might want to put stokes back to six i've got um hard at pandia written down just because I think he's explosive towards the end of an innings with a bat and his bowling's been a lot better than people give him credit for. You know, he's banged it in.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He's got decent pace. He's both some spells up to 87, 88 miles an hour and he's got good variation. So for me, it's sort of a, I think with that solid top five and I've got a really good bowling attack which will come to him in a minute. I think you can,
Starting point is 00:16:44 You can afford a kind of flair player, someone who can actually, you know, he's got a bit of style about him and he can, I think he can win a game with Battleball. What are his numbers, Andy? Hardick Pandeyer, he's sort of had a few cameos with the bat, 194 runs, hasn't reached 50 yet, but he's had three scores in the 40s. Nine, nine wickets before today average 43, so I think he's now got, what, 10, pretty much the same, same average. And a decent economy rate for somebody who bowls in the middle over is around about 5.7. So he's been, yeah, he's had a decent tournament. But looking at specifically batting at 6, no number 6 has made more than one half-century batting at 6.
Starting point is 00:17:26 The top scorer's Mammadulla. You wouldn't say he's had a good tournament. So maybe we should go back and revert and revise our earlier decision to have Stokes as a specialist. We didn't talk about Stokes's bowling either. He's actually had a decent tournament with the ball. Very good. He's been excellent. So here's my number 6.
Starting point is 00:17:42 If I may, I'm going to go with Glenn Maxwell only because I want to take a punt with one person and he's great. He gives you everything in the field. He's as close to Jereja as you can get. If Jeregia was a better bat he would have made that squad for me. So Glenn Maxwell for me at six if we have Stokes at five. But Glenn Maxwell's flattered
Starting point is 00:17:58 to deceive, isn't he? It's all right. It's not a great deal. Can you flatter in ten balls? I mean, do you need not need longer to get your flattery undergo up and running? He's been hugely entertaining. It's a one-man highlights package, 155 runs strike rate 163 but 466 not out against Sri Lanka
Starting point is 00:18:17 32 of 10 against Bangladesh but a lot of low scores with the ball no wicket for about 300 runs but it's kept it reasonably tight I mean he's I think got a shot at the record for most runs conceded without taking a wicket and in the field in a World Cup brilliant field but whether if you're picking your team in the tournament
Starting point is 00:18:37 how players have done in the tournament I don't think you'd be in it. Rather than you have it might do. Or what do you have? Number six. Well, I think I'm now putting Stokes back at six and I'm bringing another batsman in at five. So it's basically between Root and Williamson at five, isn't it? Is it? Well, if you go to Root and Williamson, yeah, then you get Stokes in at six, but you can't reverse your position. Yeah, I'm going back to Root. So we're getting rid of Pandyer, are we?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah. It's okay. So stakes. How many England players have we got on this team now? Oh, well, we've got Roy Stokes and Root. What happened to Warner? Oh, Warner got ditched. Yeah, he's gone. He can't indeed. We've got to think about the ethical side of this team in the tournament as well,
Starting point is 00:19:22 frackard. Yeah, I mean, it's three against one at the moment, but that's all right. Number seven, I'm impartial, so it's two against one. Seven, seven. So, wicket-keeper, batsman, but I'm going to ask you two questions here. The best wicket-keeper of the tournament. and then the west the best wicket-keeper bat at number seven do you want to go andy well the Alex Carey is way out in terms of in terms of batting been absolutely spectacular and
Starting point is 00:19:54 329 runs batting at number seven I think it's the most runs any player has scored in a world cup batting six or lower I think if I'm remembering stat from the last game right and he's been batting at seven, scored at a strike rate of 113. The innings he played against New Zealand, and he hit a run a ball 70 in a game in which no one else timed it. He looked an incredible player. You look at his first class stats. He ever, just 28, 29, batting in first class cricket. But he's been superb with the bat for Australia, batting down the order. Yeah, he's had at 71 and 85 in the last two games. He had a 55 or 45 and a 38, not out. I mean, he's been way ahead of any other weekkeeper in this tournament as a batsman.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I've got Carey down. Joss was the only other option there. Who's the best loveman, though? I'd say Joss is the best keeper. Although Kerry, he's not made any mistakes. I don't know if he's been tested that well. I know Zampa's played a bit, but he's not been tested up to the stumps,
Starting point is 00:20:55 whereas, you know, Josh with Adil and Moim playing, he's just really, I think he's, he goes unnoticed, and he took a blinder down the leg side, if I'm right in the last game. Just for me, he's improved no end with the gloves. You know my answer even before you ask. So the best wicket keeper for me in the tournament, without question, M.S. Doney, he's still lightning fast behind the wickets.
Starting point is 00:21:19 He's been on the money. He's taken an equally good diving catch the other day. Yes, but as my choice of wicket-keeper batsman in the team, without question, Kerry. Kerry has 17 catches, two stumpings. If he has three more dismissals, he'll set the most for a wicket. Keeper in a World Cup. So, Jimmy, basically, you can't have your fourth England player in this team.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I'm happy with Kerry. He was my first name down on the sheet. I think he's had a fantastic tournament. Okay. But you're going with Butler as the best Gloverman of this tournament. And Prakash, you're going with Doney. Andy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's quite hard to judge for me. I'm not an expert on wicketkeeping. Josh has dropped a couple, though. Has he? Yeah. He's missed a couple of stumbings. Donnie let through his career high number of buys in a game. Okay, so Alex Carey, hands down then, basically.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Carries in, yeah. Right, to the bowlers. And before we get to you, Jimmy, can we just get the number of, or the most wickets that have been taken in this tournament by, you know, first six maybe? So Mitchell Stark, way out on his own, 26 wickets, average 16, a colony 5.1.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He's had four fourthers in a World Cup, or two fiefers and two other fourfers. Must have his heard, 20 wickets, as I said, they've all been at the back end of the innings, and he's at quite a high economy rate. Jasprit Bumra, 18 wickets, economy 4.3, second most economical bowler of those who bowled 30 more rivers
Starting point is 00:22:44 buying Keemar Roach. Then you got Joffre Archer, Lockhe Ferguson, and Mohammed Amir on 17. Amir started the tournament absolutely brilliantly when Pakistan were playing badly, and by the end he was bowling tightly, but not picking up so many wickets, but the rest of the team had almost followed in his wake and started bowling really well as a team.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And Joffa Archer, five three-fers. for England. And before this World Cup, no England bowler had ever taken three three-fers in a World Cup. So he's not at the big halls, but he's been consistent and picked up wickets, both the start and the end of innings. And then after that, Shaheen Sharpe, a 3d, 16 wickets in just five games, finished the tournament superbly. I think 13 wickets in his last three innings. Mark Wood's been very good for England,
Starting point is 00:23:23 16 wickets, average 23, then Trent Bolt, and then Mohamed Shammie, 14 in 4. I'm just looking at your stats there. That is just pace bowlers, isn't it? Yeah, the highest wicket-taking spinner is, I have to go quite a long way down for this.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I've just got a pace bowler. That's what I thought. I was looking for the best spinner in there. Separate menu up for spitter. There we go. Jihal is now the top wicket taker of spinners, 12 wickets. But it's quite incredible, isn't it? And how all the pace bowlers are really dominated. First of all, we'll go to you, James.
Starting point is 00:23:57 If it's seeming conditions, who are your four out of that lot? Stark and Bumra, I think. You can't argue against them. For me, between Wood and Archer, can't quite decide. And I've got a little slightly left field one, but someone who's really sort of grabbed my attention this World Cup, not just with the ball, but in the field and his passion and everything else,
Starting point is 00:24:18 Sheldon Cottrell. Something about him that I quite like to have him in my team. He's got good skills with the ball, swings it back in early on. And, yeah, he's not set the world on fire with the amount of wickets he's taken, But I just think, you know, West Indies haven't had a great tournament, but for me, he's been the standout of their team. He's the leading wicket taken inside the first 10 overs. He has seven wickets inside the first 10 overs.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Then Archer 6, Malinga 6, Bolt Bumra and Amir have five each. So he's been very good. Lockheye Ferguson, I'll suggest. He's been the leading wicket taking the middle overs. So he was 11 to 40. He has 12 wickets. Economy, 4.3 average 17. So I think, I mean, you could make a good case for him being your kind of key middle-over's bowler.
Starting point is 00:25:07 That's just it. The bowlers that I've got there, so I've got written down, Archer, Bumra, Cotrell, Stark, all bowl with the new ball. So if you're like picking a team on balance, then you wouldn't pick all four of them, probably. But they're the ones for me that have stood out, and I'd like in my team. Who'd take the new ball? I'm not sure. Cottrell definitely would have to. Cotrell and Stark potentially.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Bumra's got the pace and the skills to bowl at any period of the game. You can both start middle or death, and he'll get your wickets. And the same for Archer? Archer the same, yeah. Parash. I've got Archer stock and boomer, and I'm holding up my sheet, so you can make sure that I wasn't sort of looking over Jimmy's shoulder. And Chahal would be the fourth bowler I'd have,
Starting point is 00:25:49 just because I want to have a variation. I would like to have a rist spinner in the side, and Charles bowled well. Okay. But if you had to have an extra seamer? Another seema? I don't know. Mahmadamia? He's done pretty well.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah, he has. But like Andy was saying, Locky. Yeah. Could be. Could be Locky Ferguson. But I haven't thought of that, to be honest. For me, as I said, I've got Chalh down because I think in most cases, you want a specialist spinner.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And even though I've got Maxwell in my team, I wouldn't consider him to be the... Shackheep as well. And Shackiab is a joint second top spin-wit-twinner, one finger spinner, one wrist spinner. You've got Stokes as well. You've got a few overs. Okay. So, if it's... spinning conditions?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Well, it's looking at the spinner statistics, a no spinner has taken more than two wickets at an average under 34. So it's been a really poor tournament for spinners. So the leading wicket had Chahal 12 at 36, economy rate fractionally under six. Tahir, 11 wickets, four of those were against Afghanistan. Didn't have a huge impact on most of the games
Starting point is 00:26:55 that he played in. Shakib was tied. He had a fife for against Afghanistan. Mohammed Nabi was really tight for Afghanistan. on 10 wickets at 4.6, but there hadn't really been any standout spinners. And in fact, I looked at the numbers of the five top wrist spinners. In the rankings, at the start of May, there were five wrist spinners in the top 10 of the world rankings.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Rashid Khan, Adarashid, the two Indians, Kuldeep and Chihal and Iran Tahrir. They'd averaged 23 in ODI cricket collectively over the previous two years. In this tournament, they've averaged 46 collectively. None of them has had a huge impact. And it's been one of the, I guess, the surprise you'd have thought, coming into this tournament, wrist spin, has been so influential. for the last two years in particular and it's had very little impact on this
Starting point is 00:27:35 tournament. So I think I'd pick four baseballers and have Shakiba the lone spinner. For me just touching on that, Rashid Khan was someone I was really looking forward to watching and on the big stage I thought if Afghanistan I thought they've got enough in their ranks to be able
Starting point is 00:27:51 to cause what we might still think is an upset and beat one of the bigger teams but and for that for them to do that he would have had to play a big part in that and I was a little bit disappointed He didn't quite have the impact that I thought he could. I think by the end of the tournament, Majib of Afghanistan was bowling really, really well. Started the tournament not too well, but was bowling tight and picking up wickets towards the end.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But I don't think if I had a team in the tournament, I'd have Shaqib as the only spin. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, talking about Rashid Khan, I think that hammering he got at the hands on Morgan, I think just sometimes it does that, right, to players. And I just think that after that he just wasn't the same bowler. he was trying to bowl either too flat or he kept tossing it up to one Morgan and he kept putting him into the stands so it's just one of those things I think that that didn't work for him
Starting point is 00:28:39 I'm actually very surprised at the stats you're telling me because you get the feeling as you watch the games that most spinners have contained if not taken wickets yeah there's so many good players to name I reckon I'd go Joffra, Lockheed Stark and Bumra have to play because they're just the best
Starting point is 00:29:00 death bowlers in the world Stark's death figures in this tournament are fairly spectacular from just point in the right I've got too many tabs over on my browser but he's in the death overs he's picking up a wicket every seven runs or so
Starting point is 00:29:15 and 26 wickets is one more said him clear of Glenn McGrath the most ever in a World Cup two World Cups 48 wickets in 17 games it's extraordinary statistics he's got hits the stumps a lot we took him only in the tournament. 40% of his ODIO wickets are bowled out.
Starting point is 00:29:34 So he's been absolutely brilliant. From BBC Radio 5 Live. This is the CMS podcast at the Cricket World Cup. Well, that was Andy Zaltzman, James Anderson, Isha Guha and Prakash Wakanka were their teams of this World Cup tournament. But how did the public vote? Well, we had over 60,000 teams of the tournament selected via the BBC Sport website and app. And Simon Mann of Test Match Special is here with me too.
Starting point is 00:29:59 reveal the final 11 hello hello eleanor now um so 73% people picked rohit shama i don't think anybody would complain about that i'm surprised it's as low as 73% the man who scored 500 the thing is he did fail in the world cup semi-final when india needed him most he nicked off but he's had an absolutely fabulous tournament 648 runs and he will be the leading run scorer in this world cup unless we see something absolutely dramatic from here on in, i.e. in the final. Yeah, well, interestingly, another man who's not going to be in the final is David Warner, who got 52% of the vote.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, I don't think you can complain too much about that either. 647 runs, agonisingly, one run behind Roe Hit. I mean, the only real candidates against Roe Hit and Warner, of course, a Besto and Roy. Roy hasn't played the whole of the tournament, but he's been absolutely fantastic. He scored 426 runs, an average of 71, a strike rate of 117 runs. he's been a magnificent performer for England at the top of the order best over the couple of hundreds
Starting point is 00:31:03 in what effectively were knockout games for him real pressure matches Roy you might make a case for he's been superb though I mean he's been one of the players of the tournament yeah and we got these results before the semi-final between England and Australia
Starting point is 00:31:19 so maybe that's kind of slightly reflecting that okay let's go on to number three and there's probably no great surprise that 67% of people chose Viracoli Well, no great surprise that 67% of people chose him, but a surprise that he is in the team of the tournament in a way because he's done okay. He's not scored 100.
Starting point is 00:31:36 443 runs for Virac Koli at an average of 55. What about Joe Root? 549 runs at an average of 68.62. Strike rate very similar. I mean, there's a strong case for Root, also going to play in the final as well. So I think Roots edged it in terms of player. of the tournament at number three, at least
Starting point is 00:31:59 in that top order after the openers, over Coley, but I suspect we've had quite a lot of India supporters voting and Virac Coley well in that case I'm actually quite surprised he hasn't had 100% of the vote because he's so popular. Okay, I don't know whether we're supposed to select a captain or whether people had captaincy in mind
Starting point is 00:32:15 when they were choosing four. It's Kane Williamson of New Zealand. Yeah, well he's been excellent hasn't he? He's been magnificent. Hit that six in the final over to win a crucial match at Edgbertson against South Africa. He has hauled New Zealand into the final. So absolutely no complaints about that.
Starting point is 00:32:32 56%. That's actually quite low, really, when you consider how well he's done in this tournament. Well, he's the first of the players who are actually going to be playing in the final to make the team of the tournament so far. Number five, this is an interesting one. 65% of people chose Shakibar Hassan.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, absolutely right as well. Brilliant tournament for Bangladesh. Because he batted number three. And you look at the Coley-Williamson-Shakib, 3-4-5. You can understand why people have voted for them in those positions. But Shaquib bumped up to number three. I think Bangladesh finished towards the bottom of the log. But without him, where they have been such an experience cricket.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He's always described as underrated. I think this World Cup finally, he is very highly rated. Okay, standby for the first English player in here. Ben Stokes gets 65% of the vote coming in at number six. Yeah, well, he's had to really dig out those runs. You think of Stokes being a sort of belliger. attacking batsman. I remember a champion's trophy match against Australia at
Starting point is 00:33:27 Edgeburton where he absolutely thrashed it. Being a different sort of player in this World Cup and seven wickets as well and brilliant in the field. He's had a tremendous World Cup. Just edging out Josh Butler is Alex Carey of Australia. Yeah, 41% of the vote. Well, Kerry has
Starting point is 00:33:43 deserved that because he has been superb. He was up at number five in the World Cup semi-final against England at Edgeburston and he was batting really well. Century Partnership and then hold out. That was sort of a real blemish on its tournament really, although he had been hit in the face.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Excellent World Cup. I just wonder whether we might see him in the ashes as a batsman. Well, 27% of the vote for the next person here. It's skinny that, is it? It's not an overwhelming endorsement, is it? But we love him from an England point of view. Chris Wokes, who edged out Muhammad Amir. Well, Wokes, World Cup, semi-final man of the match performer.
Starting point is 00:34:23 He's gradually eased his way into the tournament and got better and better and better. He's been so good in the last four years in the first ten overs. It's been great to see him on the field, actually, because he missed the Champions Trophy. And it'd been so tough to see someone like Chris Weeks miss out again. He's such a nice man. He's known as the nicest man in cricket. And it's great to see the good guys do well and great to see him get a man on the match in the semi-final. Amir also excellent.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I mean, there's that feeling that Pakistan might not have picked him. but he's come back and done really well. Yeah, you can't argue with the runs that Wokes would get you a number eight as well. Well, this takes us on to our most popular selection, and we assume opening the bowling with Chris Wokes, although not definitively. Mitchell Stark, with 84% of the votes. Well, again, I'm surprised it's as low as 84%.
Starting point is 00:35:09 To me, it's 100% really. I mean, he has to play. Okay, he did go around the park a bit in the semi-final, but as we said before, these votes came in before the semi-final. I mean, based on the group stage, head and shoulders about everybody else leading wicket taker in this World Cup
Starting point is 00:35:26 most wickets in any World Cup ever gone past Glenn McGraw absolutely fabulous bowler he's 100% for me Joffra Archer comes in at number 10 55% of the vote for him well what a bonus he has been for England just to think there was
Starting point is 00:35:42 a debate about whether he was going to play in this World Cup whether he was going to be selected by England goodness me they're glad they made that decision although I think think they've made that decision a long time ago, just speaking to people behind the scenes. He was always going to play in this World Cup once he became available for England. He's taken 19 wickets. What a future ahead for Joffre Archer. Absolutely fantastic. Dealing with the pressure as well.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And your number 11, 74% for Jasprey Bumra of India. Yeah, well, he wouldn't get in for his batting, would he? He's very much a number 11. Fabulous bowl. Absolutely fabulous bowler. Right up there with Stark. And again, I'm surprised it's only 74%. A really good World Cup from Jasbit Bumra. India out, but you couldn't lay any blame at the door of Jaspit Bumra. I'd always want him in my side. Simon, thank you very much indeed.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And thank you to everybody as well, who voted in that online poll. If you disagree, then don't get back to us. It's not our fault. Thanks so much to Simon. Now, Jonathan Agnew will be back tomorrow from Lords with a preview of the World Cup final, which will be England versus New Zealand. Now, we're still trying to find a listener in every UN member state in the world.
Starting point is 00:36:55 We're narrowing it down. Peter Wilkinson says, dear TMS, finally, my time has come. I've been waiting to land in Lomae Togo so that I can listen to the podcast here and tick the country off. I even listened on the steps as I stepped off the plane onto Togolese soil.
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