Test Match Special - Edgbaston Day 5: Epic Aussie victory and a McGrath 5-0 prediction

Episode Date: August 5, 2019

Michael Vaughan, Glenn McGrath and Geoffrey Boycott have their say on a Nathan Lyon-inspired Australia taking a 1-0 lead in the Ashes. We discuss whether some of England's players are experiencing an emotional hangover from their World Cup victory, ask what changes should be made for Lord's, and ponder if Australia are simply the better side if there's not going to be any lateral movement in this series. We also hear from Joe Root and man of the match Steve Smith.

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Armisen from the far end Bowles the first ball of the series Oh my word it's gone straight to second slip Boycott is out first ball There'll be W England one for none What a sensation The edge is caught and third slip There's 500

First ball after T McGrath celebrates Botham swings again hits that It's six runs It's a six runs That's his hundred Welcome to Edgebaston, where Australia have gone one-nill up in the Ashes series, their first victory on this ground since 2001.

England needed a bat out the day, but they were all out for 146 before a quarter-past three, losing by 251 runs. I'll get the post-match thoughts of Michael Vaughn shortly. I'll chat to the man in the match, Steve Smith, and captains Joe Root and Tim Payne. But first let's hear the Australian Moment of Triumph, with Geoffrey Boycott and Jim Maxwell in the box. Cummins tries again and works as gliding the ball off.

The glove, he's out. He's caught at second slip. It's all over. And they're hugging each other down there. Steve Smith took the catch. Australia have come up with the most gratifying, memorable win from where they were at 8 for 122, the margin of 251.51.

runs and they've been all over England today and this has been a comprehensive victory for Australia who for so many tours to this country have been denied by very good cricket from England and they've been close on a couple of occasions since 2001 but now they go one-up in this Ashes series with this huge victory led by the spin bowling of Nathan Lyon They've won the game by 251 runs. Jeffrey. Well, they bowled England out in the fourth inches in four hours, as simple as that.

And England struggled to bowl Australia out. The first thing is when they had a 122 for 8 and certainly struggled a great deal harder in the second end is that England got bowled out in four hours. And if they're really honest about it, brutally honest, two got themselves out because they couldn't play the short ball. very well today they ducked and made a mess of it

and they should have stood up and played it and there were a couple of other shots Jason Roy's running down the pitch when you're trying to save the match if you went into things you'd say well hang on well played Australia have out played England but you could have and should have done a bit

better well they would have changed the course of the match is different but you should have done a hell of a lot better than you have done Smith's batting is that chiefly been the difference Big difference. Huge. Bradmaness. Not quite, you know, but he's way out in front of anybody in the world today of making runs. That's what the job is. You can talk about aesthetics being a beautiful cover driver or a fantastic onside player or hooks or quick bowlers well. The idea of batting is to get runs. Bowlers get wickets and in terms of getting runs, it gets more than anybody. It's simple. because he played here in a very big win in 2001. Didn't manage to play in 2005, as we all know,

but here, along with a lot of Ozzy's, he's watched Australia come up with what you'd have to describe as a memorable, a famous victory. Glenn? Oh, very much so, Jim. You know, to think that Australia were 122 for 80 in that first inning and to win by 251 is an amazing effort. We can talk about Steve Smith, that incredible batting in both innings.

Matthew Wade in the second innings was great. But a lot of comes back to the toss. There's been a lot of talk about the pitch and it was going to be a green seamer. And for Tim Payne to win the toss and to bat first on there, there was a few questions floating around, but it was definitely the right decision to bat first. And when they amassed that score yesterday, they're right on top in this game.

And it's all about creating chances. I had a fairly quick chances today. And some of the English batsmen didn't help too much. But fifth day pitch, turning square for the fast bottles up and down. So, yeah, very big win. And just what the Australian team needed. And just what the boys coming back into the team, Bancroft, Warner and Smith, to come over to England

and to have a win first test is great. Now, you were hesitant before this series about giving a prediction. What's your prediction now for this series? I was only hesitant because I didn't want to be predictable. Everyone thinks I'm just going to come out and say 5-0 at the start of a test. So I thought I'd wait until the second to the end of the first test match. So, yeah, test assessing, I might make a bold prediction and go 5-0. 5-0?

To the Aussies. What a surprise. Well, there you get. No rain, 5-0. But then Australia, what's that, seven tests in a row? Andrew, that out of eight tests against England, they've won the last seven? I've won the last seven with the draw at Melbourne in between that's it, yeah? So basically I should be saying 11-0.

Well, England have got some work to do. You would think to be more competitive in this series. And thank you, Agers, for giving me the chance to call a victory here at Edgeveston. Over to you. Yeah, a rare opportunity for you, Jim, and one that you won't get for a while. But it's tradition, isn't it? And it's the way we always do it. And as always, you called it immaculately, although it wouldn't have been poetry

to the years of many England supporters. 251 runs. That's quite a hammering, isn't it? So, yes, we're gathered down here, and the presentations will happen. We'll hear from both captains. We'll hear from the man in the match, the usual sort of a thing. But I must remember over the recent years, I've been used to lots of cheering and shouting and everyone smiling and being happy

because England tended to have won so many of their home games, but, well, not the case today. There were some rather long faces among the England players as I made my way out onto the outfield here. I had to walk through them as they were shaking the Australian players' hands. Anyway, we shall hear what's going. Michael Vaughn is here. 251 runs.

I mean, I really thought, and I'm not just saying it, but I honestly really thought England might get through today. Yeah, I mean, that early blow, you know, when you lose Rory Burns, good bouncer bag, Pat Cummings, once I started to see it spin so much. Very, very difficult batting last. On a day five wicket against quality in Nathan Lyon, the quality of Cummings, Pattinson and Siddles.

I thought Siddle was probably the most unlucky bowler, to have picked up a wicket. He was seeing it either way. You know, you're looking at a few days ago. England had Australia 122 for 8 and so I've lost by 251. There's a few warning signs there that this Australian side, you know, many have said it before the series that they're very well prepared. They've got a squad of players and when you play five test matches in the space for seven weeks, it will take a squad. Now England have got a look at the squad now and go, right, how can the squad get picked up for a week and a half time at Lords? This Australian squad, you look at Mitchell Stark,

Josh Hazelwood, I'm pretty sure start will come in at Lords, probably rest the likes of maybe Siddell or Pattinson. So the Aussies will jiggle their pack for the conditions. They got it right this week playing Peter Siddell. Those runs that he scored in the first things were crucial for him to get the 284. England getting a nice run lead and you think, come on, you need your spinner. And Moines Alley just didn't bowl well enough in the second innings. And we have witnessed a great, great player in Steve Smith

that's made a massive, massive difference. You know, you're looking at from an Aussie, perspective, they've got a player at four that's, you know, the front page of the telegraph today of liking him to the Don. Don Bradman, that's how well he's played. In England, he'll lose Jimmy Anderson inside four overs. England have played with ten men, you know, and when you've got Jimmy Anderson not bowling, you've got Moines Alley struggling for form and not bowling well enough, makes it very, very

difficult to compete on this kind of wicket, you know, it's been slow and a bit turgid. There's not been the pace, there's not been the movement. And if the conditions stay like this, then they stay slow, or Nathan Lyman, and the likes of Steve Smith, for me, will be the difference between the two teams. Although England have lost, or maybe in the light of England having lost, how important do you think that Anderson decision was?

I mean, someone's got that wrong, and questions have to be asked about this. But how significant do you think that was? Yeah, I don't think they'll point in the thing, because I think Jimmy will stick his hand up. Jimmy declared himself fit. When you've got a bowler of Jimmy's skill experience, and he turns and says, I'm fit,

you have to go with him. So Jimmy would be the one that's good. He doesn't need telling that. You can see from his body language. See, I would counter that, or just offer the extra thought, that you can only say you're fit in the tests that you're given.

And you need to play a game. Yeah, and that'll be probably what comes from this game that whoever's coming back from an injury will have to have played a game. And Joffre Archer will play in the second team this week to make sure that he's had a day's bowling and then another day's bowling. You need to test your bodies

over the course of two or three days when you're going to play a test match, It's not just four overs in a T-20. I worry about this England side because the World Cup's massive for them. Once you've achieved that huge high to then two weeks later come and play in this kind of series,

all right, it sounds like an excuse. But emotionally, I do have a concern about two or three of the England players. You're looking at Moines Alley. Josh Butler, looks a little bit shot to me. Johnny Beirstow. All these players that have been around the World Cup, you only have to go back to 2011

when India won the World Cup. They lost the next test series. Australia won the World Cup in 2015. They lost the Nest Test Series. It's very, very difficult. But England won't, I'm sure, make any excuses. They'll know that there were stages this week where they should have grabbed the situation.

1-2-2-4. You don't allow the opposing team to get 284. They weren't quite rueful enough. Played all right with the bat in the first innings, in particular Rory Burns. And then in the second innings, you've got a 90-run lead. You get a couple of early wickets.

You need your spinner. You know, you need your spinner to produce on this kind of wicket. Unfortunately, for Joe Rout in England, Moe and Alley just wasn't good enough this week. Still waiting for presentations here. The noise you heard over there it's actually Nathan Lyon going over and saying hello to all the Australian supporters and there are a lot of them. When you come out here onto the field, actually see them all gathered.

I mean there's a lot here in their green shirts and gold caps and they're looking very pleased with themselves. So a nice gesture there from the off spinner. It's taking six four 49 and there's bold England out here for 146. I don't know. You look at the scores Michael, Australia, 487 for seven yesterday, England 146 and there's a massive disparity. If the bull doesn't move laterally and there's a little bit of swing and seam, this has got mess written over this series for the England side.

Joffre Archer will come in, of course, he'll add a bit of pace and a bit of bounce, he might make a difference, but this England side needs lateral movement. If it's slow and it's low and it's a little bit turgeon and you're reliant on your spinner, they have a world-class one in Nathan Line. He's got 350-odd test match wickets. You know, you're looking at Mowin's record over the last year.

It's very, very good, but I'm just looking at body language and the bounce of a bowler, and Mowin's bounce this week wasn't there, and his accuracy wasn't there, and maybe you can get it right for Lourdes, you know, but they'll also look at potentially being in the left-arm sprint in Jatleap because that is a slight, the slight kind of area of, I guess, where you can target Steve Smith, his left-arm spin.

He averages 34, every other bowler. He pretty much averages 80 or 90 again, so I think In will have to go down that route, but it's more the mentality that I have concerns over two or three of them from the World Cup to now playing in this series. How are they going to get that mentality, that concentration and that real drive back for a week on Wednesday at Lords? That's a real concern for me for the team.

And then people shouting at the radio saying, come on, Michael. They've won the World Cup. They had a wake-up call against Ireland. They've been beaten here, and they've got to lift themselves for an ashes test at Lords. Are you serious? Yeah, absolutely. You know, and I can understand people saying that. but high-level sports sometimes drains the life out of you.

When you've achieved so much for four years, particularly someone like Joss Butler, he's a dedicated whiteball specialist that's playing test match cricket and playing it quite well. But, you know, when you've achieved that level and you've been on that podium lifting the World Cup, I just worry. And Dave Young did a wonderful job in the World Cup.

When they lost that game against Sri Lanka, then they went to Lords and lost against Australia. Everyone went, wait a minute, this World Cup campaign is going to be a disaster. A few weeks later, they're lifting the World Cup. Dave Young works his magic, he needs to work his magic even more so now with this group of players to get them believing, get them back fighting and getting them back playing to a standard where I know they can be competitive but they will need lateral movement.

If the ball doesn't do a great deal or it's slow wickets, I think this series could be one where Australia completely wiped the floor within them because they've got a better spinner and they've got a batsman at number four on slower wickets that you can't get out. You can't get him out on a slower wicket. You need a little bit of zip in the surface. You need those edges to be carrying through to the slip cordon. So they need a little bit more action out of the wicket.

Actually, we need to get some grass on. Well, they'll have to gamble. They still might get beat because the likes of Cummings, Stark and Hazelwood and Co. But I just think this team, we've said it for a while, when the wickets get a little bit flatter and slower and require your spin, they're not that competitive. They do need a little bit of movement through the air. Rory Burns, I mean, if you're looking at things, you know,

we'll hear about the positives in a minute, no doubt, from Joe. He'll find some. And he will say, obviously, that Rory Burns scoring his first 100 will be one of those. Well, he played great. You know, he batted a whole day. He batted on every day of the test match. And, you know, that is a positive for England. They found an opening batsman that played well this week.

You know, can he do it again a week on Wednesday? You know, he showed a huge amount of skill, discipline and great technique on that first innings. You know, I think you can't be critical of the way England batted in the first innings. I thought they showed us all what we've been asking for a long period of time. Can you bat a long period? Can you wear the opposing bowlers down? And they did that. So the first innings batting was fine.

It was just with the ball in hand this week. They were exposed when Jimmy got injured. Now the captain, it'll be hurting because no one likes to lose. No one likes to lose, in particular to Australia. But, you know, from an ex-captain to not have your best bowler for the whole test match, so have your spinner not producing, it's very, very difficult to compete. You're a bit stuck, aren't you? Well, it's hard to compete.

You're playing with nine and a half men, really. And that's not being, you know, negative to the base. It's the realistic messes that this week, England, we're playing with nine and a half. And on a pitch like that, you know, if Graham Swans in the England side this week, pretty sure they win. If Jimmy Anderson's fit for the full week, I'm pretty sure that England would come a lot closer than losing to Australia to 251. These little sways, and you just look at Ashy series of the past,

you know, an injury to Glenn McGraw here in 2005 got us back into the test series. I just wonder whether that injury to Jimmy Anderson, I can't see how he's going to be fit. you know at best will he be fit for the last test who's to say that the Asi Sears will still be alive by the last test match so that's for me a massive moment the Australian batsman the technical side

of all their players knowing that they won't have to face Jimmy Anderson it's a massive boost for a team as it was for us in 2005 when we knew that Glenn McGraw wasn't going to play a full part here and we knew that he'd struggle across the games that he was going to play because you can't get an injury like that back so soon you know he gives your dressing room a big lift and I'm sure

Jimmy's injury has given the Oz's a big big lift. Well, let's find out how the England camp is after that. Joe, how do you think about that? What's your feelings? Yeah, it's frustrating. I fully thought we'd be able to get through today. I credit to Australia Bowl very well. I thought the majority of dismissals, we were got out. And we have to take it on the chin. We come back strong, come back hard at loads and make sure that we are right up for the fight and I'm ready to go. It seems quite hard to lose a test It's about 120 for 8, isn't it, on the first day? Yeah, it's disappointing.

As I say, we got ourselves in a really strong position, and credit to Steve Smil, I thought we batted exceptionally well throughout the whole test match. And that partnership was very frustrating. Even after the first innings, you know, we're in a good position, getting a strong lead like that. And one of those things where we have to have a look and make sure that we respond better in those positions further down the line.

inevitably we need to ask about James Anderson and the process that led him being fit for only four overs how did that come about well he passed the whole fitness test in terms of selection we went about it how you normally would and it's one of those freak things where you pull up half in the middle of a game

and we just have to tell that on the chin I thought bowls worked extremely hard to take on that workload but we weren't quite able to to build the pressure that we'd like to take the 20 wickets. Don't you think he needed to have played a game first to have properly tried it rather than just bowling in nets and so on? These things are always easy to say in hindsight.

I think he went through all of the medical tests, absolutely fine, absolutely ready to go. There's a unanimous decision from all parties for him to play this game. And that's part and parcel of test cricket. Sometimes things go against you. And you've got to find different ways of getting. yourself back into the game and as I say to get them into that position with a bowler down was a fantastic effort and it's just slightly frustrating but you know we have to move forward and not dwell

on it too much going into the rest of the series how much did it hobble you and especially in Australia's second innings there with Mowen not with bowling as well as he has done in the past how much did you miss Anderson you're always going to miss someone of jimmy's calibre you know even in that first innings. You're looking at managing workloads throughout the whole game. Not just that. He has a fantastic record at this ground against Australia and England in general. It is a big blow for anyone but we still feel very capable of taking wickets and being a bit more competitive than we were and we have to make sure that we're right back at our best and perform like we did early on in the test match throughout the rest of the series. Just a last thought, Joe, that noise was

for Steve Smith, the man of the match. How are you going to stop him becoming this enormous, unbeatable character? I mean, he'd nick one the second, didn't he? You know, just outside the off stump, isn't he? I mean, he's human. Yeah, absolutely. He's got to start again at Lords.

You know, we've got to make sure that we make it very difficult for him to get in. You've seen when he does get in, he's very greedy, and he makes big scores. And, you know, we've seen when the ball does move around, can be vulnerable in these conditions, as he was on the last tour. so I have to exploit that when we can. Joe, thank you for talking to us.

We'll see you at Lords. There we are. Well, he sounds pretty determined. The England captain. I'm being taken over to the side. Now we're going over here, are we? Okay. While we do so, Michael Vaughn's still here.

What did you make of what Joe had to say there? I mean, he said that Anderson went through all the checks and it was a unanimous decision, but the fact is he hadn't played a game. No, no, and you're right. I mean, you know, I'm sure that'll change in time, but, you know, I do think they are unfortunate in a way because you've got this 37-year-old legend of England's cricket

and he'd have been saying, I'm absolutely fine. You know, as a captain in that position, I'm pretty sure I'd have gone exactly the same. You know what, Jimmy, you're playing this week? You know, because you do when you have someone like that in your team and he's passed all the tests. The one thing that's completely different in a mad situation is the tension that goes through your body. You know it yourself that when you're, particularly in an Ash's series, you are a little bit more tense and nervous. And I guess that'll be a lesson that England will learn going forward.

forward that I'm sure they'll say from now and in that any anybody doesn't matter what the legendary status that player is at in the future I'm sure they'll say you've got to play a game to make sure that you can get through three or four days out in the field bowling 20 over the day they may say he bowled 20 overs but it wasn't at a batsman it wasn't in the tension of a game and you know we all know that in a game situation your body just tenses up that little bit more so than in practice it's waiting for tim pain now who's giving a television interview at the moment if you are just tuning our way. It's one of two spits and spots of rain falling, actually. That'd be ironic, wouldn't it? Where was it Adelaide, wasn't it? In 10-11, where it rodded down just when England won. It's right. It is one of two spits and spots. Nothing too serious. It was a huge storm that, I don't to recall. But anyway, here comes Tim Payne. So we're going to try and deflect him over here. Congratulations, Tim. How does that feel? It's very satisfying. Yeah, we struggled a little bit early on day one, but I thought the way

we stuck to it. Addressed a few things between innings and then I thought we were excellent with both bat and ball in the second innings. You were very confident when you decided to bat first. Were you a little bit, I don't know, a bit uneasy at 122 for 8? No, it wasn't overly.

I know one thing Ricky Potting taught me a long time ago was to bat first because it's always easy to bat on day one that is on day five and I think we'll prove them correct today. How do you assess the fellow behind you there, Steve Smith? I mean, everything that's gone on, all the history and everything else.

How do you assess what he's come here and done over his last five days? It's been unbelievable, not just the last five days. The last sort of five or six weeks he's been back around our group is huge. He makes guys walk a bit tall. I heard Michael say, well, read his Twitter yesterday, and I tend to agree. I think he's the best test bats one we've ever seen. And he seems to be getting better, which is scary.

Yeah. And in terms of the emotion of it and where he's been, which is, let's face it, pretty broken, frankly. When he celebrated his hundred, is he almost hit him? Yeah, I think so It speaks a lot about him as a person He's been through a really tough time He came to England

He's been here for probably three months now He's copped it all day, every day And for someone to be able to put that aside And just bad, it shows incredible sort of mental toughness and concentration And when you put that with the immense skill he's got He's a pretty good package I mean, do you think it's time that that finished

All that stuff? I don't think it matters I think that's what it is When you come to England as an Australian test team, I think everyone's going to cop it. It seemed to, no matter who's out on the fence, you're copping a gogfield, but I think we've spoken about it as a group, we know how we

want to handle it, and we did it superba. Well done. Tim, we're at Lord's. Thank you, for talking to us. Steve Smith, well, I don't know where to start with you. You better tell me. I mean, how does it feel? It feels pretty special. Yeah, winning the first Ashes test match of the summer here. It's always

really special. You know how big the first test match is, so, yeah, To be one-neill up now, very pleasing. That wasn't what I meant, and you know it. How does it feel for you? Great. You know, I'm loving being back, playing cricket for Australia, doing what I love, and contributing to wins.

It's been a pretty special week to score 200s in an Ashes test match. First time I've ever done that in any form of cricket in my life. Very few have done it. Yeah, so very special, very pleased and very proud. when you were at your lowest point and you must have had some of the last 18 months how did you imagine that you would come back I mean did you sit there and I don't know

just just sort of dream about getting back here and what would happen if you did no I didn't really have those sort of dreams or anything I don't know I was just sort of letting time pass and when I got my brace off my elbow after I had surgery it was it was like something just clicked

and it was like, right, I'm ready to play cricket again and I'm ready to go out and do what I love. I did lose that love for a little bit but got it back and, yeah, back doing what I love, which is great. What's the first thing you thought of when he got that hundred? You ran down this end. It just seemed like it sort of hits you.

Don't burst into tears. I thought you were going to. I was close. I had to have a few deep breaths. It was really special. it was probably almost just as special as I think my first hundred I scored here back in 2013.

Yeah, it was just a huge moment and a real almost a relief to get that sort of first one out of the way coming back in. Yeah. And the noise? I mean there was quite a lot of it. You just deal with that now, can you? Yeah.

Obviously, copping a bit of stick out there and stuff, but I'm not really paying much attention to that. fortunately we've got a good Aussie contingent. You have, they've been noisy too. Yeah, they're trying to take on the Bar Mio which is pretty tough I reckon. They're a big crew that

they're creating a good atmosphere for us and we're grateful that there's so many people come over here to watch us play in the Ashes. Well on Steve, man in the match. You're also the winner of our champagne moment I'll give you that at Lord which is another of those and you'll enjoy it. Beautiful. Thank you. Well played.

No worries, thanks. Steve Smith, there you go. The man of the match is off clutching. one champagne. Do you know, that's really nice. He just looked like he was going to cry, didn't he, when he got that handle? I think what you should do,

I guess is try and make sure he has some of that champagne before he bats. It's the England's only chance. He speaks great, and you can just see that he's loving being back. You know, we're witnessing a special talent. You know, I know he's had his bad times,

he's come back. You know, I think the England supporters will continue to boom when he arrives to the crease, but I thought in the second end is when he gets a 50 and there wasn't as many booze and when he got his second 100 I think the whole ground and I think the whole country

over the course of the next few weeks are going to realise that we've got a special player and we have to enjoy unfortunately those kind of talents in our great game because he is a craftsman and a wonderful exhibitionist of how to score runs in all conditions

England will fancy that if the ball's moving around a bit they'll be able to snick him off in that first thing is when he got his hundred he played a missed at 17 deliveries because there was just a little bit more nibble there And, you know, I think that's why it's important that there is a little bit

in lateral movement for him. And if there is, I still think they can get him out quite cheaply. You know, he's so good that he'll probably get two or three more hundreds in the series. But, you know, you just feel that if there's a little bit there, the Seemers will fancy the chances. If the pitches are like this and the slowness and there's not a great deal of swing

and it's down to the spinner, I'm afraid you might as well book him in for bed and breakfast every single week because it's very difficult to dislodge him. But, you know, we're witnessing a great, great player. Yeah, but every generation's had one. haven't they, sometimes more than one, actually. You're Ten Dolkos, and you Lara,

Viv Richards in my day and others. There is a danger that you can overbuild it, can't you? I mean, they are still human. They've still got a little bat in their hands. You're bowling out, and there are lots of ways in which you can get them out. And I think that's what you're going to have to do. I mean, all the tactics are, you know, I can imagine Joe's scratching his head and Trevor of how to bowl to Steve Smith,

but I think just basics now. You know, it's got to be full of length on and around off stump, try and bring him forward, try and snick him off. If you get it to knit back, hope he misses one. And, you know, as you said, he's human and he can make mistakes yesterday morning. He came out. Brody had a nice field. Extra cover was just a little bit deeper.

He'd have been on the catch. You know, he drove one in the air, you know, because they opened up mid-on. He'd just try to get it down towards mid-on, and he had a leading edge. You know, so you can get to a player. I mean, as you said, he's a human being. But he's so driven, and he practices so hard, and he hits so many balls, and he doesn't get bored. You know, that's why I put him in the greatest. He just doesn't get bored.

was a great, great player, but you always felt that Brian might have the odd late night or two and arrive a bit tired. Whereas this guy, I just think he has full dedication to make sure that, you know, this is his redemption back into test cricket. And once you get a play like that, starting like he has done this week, Ingham are going to have to do some to keep him quiet.

One person who, he'll reflect, obviously, sadly, on the result, but actually has been a very good game for him, so was last of Stuart Broad, who wasn't quite fringe, but you know what I mean? You didn't quite feel that he was absolutely nailed on for this series. Yeah, I mean, he was great, and Stuart now has to step up even more. You know, Jimmy Anderson's looking like being out for a few test matches. Stuart's the senior pro, Chris Wokes.

These guys, Joe Roots, are really going to need. Those senior core players that you know generally like this big stage, Brody loves playing in an Ashley's series. He likes the hype, he likes the atmosphere, and he delivered again. You know, he has to do it again for the England team a week on Wednesday, as does Chris Wokes. Ben Stokes had a decent week. You know, he looked a little bit tired yesterday,

But, you know, it's just a World Cup winner's aggers I have concerns about. That's why I talk about David Jung, the psychologist. He has a job to do with those players to make sure by a week on Wednesday the team are galvanised. They get that belief back somehow and they come out and win that first day.

That's all that Lord's is about. You win the first day, you get back in the series. One sentence answer, can England win it Lord? They can, but they'll have to improve by, I don't know what the percentage is, but it's a lot. The TMS podcast at the Ashes. Download and subscribe via the BBC Sounds app. So that's all the reaction

from down on the field. Look out for the Tuffers and Vaughn podcast with special guest Mitchell Johnson. You can watch the highlights of this game via the cricket section of the BBC Sport website and app. And the next live cricket is a KSL triple header, Tuesday from 2.30. Then,

it's a second Nash's test. That's starting on Wednesday the 14th of August and we'll have a podcast ahead of that.