Test Match Special - How Australia won the 2022 Women's World Cup

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Henry Moeran is alongside 2017 England World Cup winner Alex Hartley and BBC Sport cricket writer Ffion Wynne to look back at the 2022 Women's World Cup. They look at Australia's journey to beating En...gland in the final and what other shocks happened during the tournament which took place as the world was still tackling the Covid-19 pandemic.

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Starting point is 00:01:19 semi-final stage they rebuilt they came back stronger and a side that has lost just 250 over games in the intervening half decade. Now claim the World Cup, beating England by 71 runs in Christchurch. Nat Siver is left stranded. She's played brilliantly, but the best side in the world will be lifting the World Cup trophy. Australia have won the World Cup. So the 2022 Women's World Cup hosted in New Zealand was an unusual tournament, not least because it was hosted in the shadow of the COVID pandemic sides had to quarantine. New Zealand being one of the countries with the stricter rules in terms of entry to the country. So lots of time were spent in hotel rooms, teams finding innovative ways of making sure they kept their fitness levels up
Starting point is 00:02:10 before the tournament got underway in early March 2022. It was eventually won, inevitably perhaps by Australia, who comfortably beat England in the final with Alyssa Healy, playing a quite startling innings, scoring 170 as Australia won by 71 runs. Alex Hartley, a World Cup winner with England. The previous tournament in 2017 was there. Commentating on the competition, Theon Wynne was writing for the BBC Sport website. I'm joined by both Alex and Fiona.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Now, Alex, you and I went through the quarantine. We did lots of laps up and down the car park, which was our only allowed exercise at certain points in the day. and it was looking back a weird old time. Yeah, it's one of those where you just said we were going to talk about 20, 22. I don't really remember it, to be honest with you. And then you've brought back all the memories of the quarantine.
Starting point is 00:03:03 We had to do 10 days, but ended up doing seven, didn't we? We got out a little bit early. But, yeah, we were delivering coffee to each other's rooms at about midday. We were trying to sleep as long as possible, and then we were on delivery, trying to get a coffee to each other, and then it'd turn up cold and you'd have to reorder it. But, yeah, it was a strange time of life
Starting point is 00:03:21 that World Cup. And for the teams involved, Fiona, how do you even begin to prepare for a competition like that? Yeah, it was a really odd one because England had the ashes just before it, didn't they? Obviously in Australia.
Starting point is 00:03:34 So for those players in particular, it obviously didn't affect Australia too much because they won everything. But I think, you know, in the group stages of that in particular, I think we could really see the toll that that took on England. They lost three games in the group stage.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I think their first three games, West Indies being. a big surprise in that. Shrub salt. Waits for Mohammed. She's bold. That's it. England have lost.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Disbelief on both sides. England, the reigning champions, humbled by West Indies, who together embrace, celebrate a famous victory. They've never beaten England at a World Cup. And suddenly, the champions beaten twice in, two games and rocking in this tournament. West Indies win by seven runs in a thriller. Trubsoll is bold advancing down the track. The England dressing room has barely moved over to our left. It is a party of those in Maroon at the far end of the ground celebrating a victory that will be
Starting point is 00:04:46 heralded around the world in women's cricket as one of the biggest upsets that World Cup cricket has seen. I think we're all thinking, yeah, they're exhausted. They are really kind of, this has taken its toll and it's not easy and, you know, perhaps they're starting to get a bit weary and then obviously, you know, scrape through the final in the end with a big win over South Africa. But yeah, in terms of preparation, I was speaking to Lauren Bell a few days ago and she was a reserve in in that World Cup and she was saying, bless her, that she got, she actually got COVID right at the end. So they were all ready to go home after about three months away from home. She had to do another week just by herself in a room having just England just lost the final.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I just thought, yeah, that was a lot for people to deal with. Yeah, I remember all the girls after that try and make sure that they can get on their plane and get home because the last thing anybody wanted to do, and poor Lauren Bell Hencawain actually ended up staying with Belly out in New Zealand. The media manager. Yeah, but no one else obviously wanted to stay. So everyone was doing all sorts to try and make sure they can go home. Amazing, wasn't it? And looking back, it seems believable some of it.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And the conditions under which, you know, not just the tournament, but sport and major events that had to go through to continue during that time. So the competition itself worked with eight sides playing around Robins, so lots of matches, each team playing each other once. So seven group matches a piece, top four qualifying for the semifinals. Now, the big surprise, Fion, was that India didn't make it through to the semifinals. It was West Indies who actually haven't qualified for the 2025 edition of this tournament. West Indies who made it in alongside Australia, South Africa and England. And so India falling short, which was a shock. Two needed from four.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Here comes Goswami. Running into bowl to Beth Mooney. Hits them all down the ground for four, wins the game for Australia. And after all that tension from the penultimate over, another superstar in green and gold does the job to get the world's best side over the line and through to the semi-finals. India took them close. but just not close enough.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, it was a big surprise, especially because, you know, the 2017 World Cup, which was the previous edition, obviously, it was quite some time ago, but, you know, they'd built a lot of momentum, India, in terms of expectation. They'd reached the final in 2020 as well in the T20 World Cup. So there was a lot of kind of hopes and thinking that this could be the year that either they win it or they go on to really challenge it. They had, I think, a knockout, it was almost a knockout game essentially against South Africa, which they didn't get over the line.
Starting point is 00:07:21 and then that meant that West Indies having beaten England and also just shows how much has changed from their point of view, the amount of players that have stepped out of that side that they're, you know, as you said, they're not even here now. So they've gone from a top four finish to not even making it out of the qualifiers.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, it was remarkable that they had fallen away in that fashion in that time. But teams can have bad tournaments, I suppose, Alex. Well, yeah, of course you can. For India, look, I think they were going through that transitional stage back in 2022. They're a lot more settled now. You know, their starting 11 is a lot more settled.
Starting point is 00:07:54 They've earthed a lot of new players, young players from the WPL that have come in. So, yeah, for me, 2022, it was a big shock that the West Indies qualified in India didn't. But on the other hand, West Indies had a lot more experience compared to India at that stage. So the four semi-finalists were Australia who won all of their matches. South Africa, who came second in the group, having lost only the one game. England, who scraped through. They lost their opening three. they had no margin for error
Starting point is 00:08:22 but they got on a little bit of a role despite very nearly losing to New Zealand in a thrilling game played in Auckland and your Shrubsol scoring the winning runs right at the end as she had done in the semi-final four years earlier, five years earlier rather
Starting point is 00:08:37 and then the West Indies who won three and lost three won the result and they qualified ahead of India, New Zealand, Bangladesh and Pakistan so those semi-finals England having lost against South Africa in the group stages, well, they were dominant in a match played at Hagley Oval in Christchurch, beating South Africa in the end quite comprehensively to win by 137 runs.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Danny Wyatt scored 129 and South Africa were bowled out for just 156, six wickets for Sophie Eccleston in that game. And it looked at that point, like England, could be in a really strong position, feel. Yeah, it was one of the first kind of tournaments. that I worked on in my role. And it was the times weren't particularly friendly. Because you were back home because there was a limit to how many people
Starting point is 00:09:27 could get into New Zealand. Yeah, yeah. So we were at home work starting shifts at about midnight 1 a.m. And after England lost all those three group stages, they were getting more and more difficult to kind of, oh gosh, we've got to get up and go through all of this again.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And then you kind of thought, yeah, they've beaten South Africa, who'd beaten them in the group stage, thought they've put this behind them, they've scraped through. And I think, you know, you do build some momentum when you get to that sort of position having not played at your best at all because you then think, well, if we can reach a final having not played our best cricket, then imagine what's going to happen when we do. But obviously, you know, Australia probably had the easier semi-final in terms of West Indies. West Indies certainly had the much more difficult semi-final having to try and beat Australia. But England, yeah, in that final, they were always going to be up against it.
Starting point is 00:10:14 But you did think, you know, Australia the favourites, England, the underdogs, if they can kind of. of use that to their advantage. Could they sneak over the line? But it wasn't to be. England in that semi-final, Danny Wyatt, a real coming of age, it felt like, despite being a player that had played well over 100 matches, it felt like a sort of really defining innings for Danny Wyatt. Try on again. Wyatt on 99. She goes back. She finds a gap on the offside. She's running to the non-strikers end. She's there. Danny Wyatt has 100 in the World Cup semi-final. She punches the air. It's a wonderful moment. She's had a nomadic England career. She started life as an off-spinner.
Starting point is 00:10:51 She's been up and down the order. She's been dropped in each of the last two 50-over World Cups. But this might be her finest hour in an England shirt because she could be taking them to the World Cup final, 100 from 98 balls. Well, it was one of those where she'd batted in the middle order for such a long period of time. And Lisa, before that semi-final, the head coach in 2022,
Starting point is 00:11:14 said, do you fancy opening the bass in? And she's openly come out and said, yeah, of course I do. It's the best place to bat. And she took that with both hands, didn't she scoring her 130, well, 129, and basically scored the bulk of the runs along with Sophia Dunkley for England to get up in around 300. So, yeah, look, Danny White has had a strange career because she's played over 300 games for England. She's been exceptional.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But you are right, that innings at the top of the order, you're always like, okay, here's a new Danny Wyatt. Here's like a new evolution of her and her game. She was brilliant, as was Sophie Eccleston, South Africa, fell away. badly and in the end had to head home from the tournament having qualified for the semi-final but not getting any further the other semi-final Australia against West Indies played in Wellington at the wonderful Basin Reserve so convinced Alex was I that South Africa that Australia were going to win the game I remember I think we might have had some strange sort of cabin fever at that point I bet our colleague Stefan Shemilt I'd give him all of my shoes that I had with me on the trip if there was a way
Starting point is 00:12:18 that West Indies would beat Australia so certain was I that that was not going to happen and Australia with Elisa Healy scoring 129 were just too strong for West Indies who were all out for 148 Australia winning by 157 it felt quite predictable in the end Australia were always going to win as you knew Henry
Starting point is 00:12:36 betting all your shoes and we were just talking about that and you like do you remember and I was like I sort of remember you betting a shoe but I don't remember it being all of your... It was all of them yeah because now I sort of remember Stefan thinking it'd be brilliant to see you having to walk home through the airport with no shoes on so I do kind of remember that
Starting point is 00:12:53 but you were right with that bet weren't you? Australia were just too dominant throughout that tournament. They didn't lose a game but playing against the West Indies you almost felt like that was a certain win for Australia had they come up against England or South Africa it was almost one of those ways you never know something strange might happen
Starting point is 00:13:10 England for me were going to be the only team that could challenge Australia even though they hadn't had a decent run of games at the start of the World Cup they got a bit of momentum towards the back end but West Indy is ultimately too poor Fiona at that point
Starting point is 00:13:23 you're looking at Australia having won all of their matches qualified for the final and you're thinking well sometimes teams do end up having a wonderful time of it and then fall at the final hurdle look at India and the tournament
Starting point is 00:13:34 a year later but it never felt in some ways once Australia has shown that level of dominance that they were going to fall at the final hurdle yeah they're just completely ruthless and they almost rewrite the rule book, don't they, in terms of
Starting point is 00:13:49 you have these kind of cliches of, oh, do you need a couple of games to be under pressure or a couple of close games or to lose a game in the group stays just to kind of keep you on your toes a bit, which we usually say about England and we usually say about India, but it just doesn't seem to apply to them. They just have a mentality of winning and winning and winning. And, you know, they have shown in the past that when they do lose, for example, in 2017 when they lost to India, they don't take it very well. They
Starting point is 00:14:16 They just get better and they find ways to make sure that that doesn't happen again. So, yeah, I think in terms of the kind of expectations that we apply on other teams in terms of making it through a long tournament where there's a lot of group stage games, they don't really apply to them. I don't think they've done it so often that we kind of think they're just going to keep winning until maybe one day they won't. Yeah, it's a strange one, isn't it? And I think leading into that tournament, Australia would definitely favourites.
Starting point is 00:14:46 obviously England winning the previous tournament we were all really excited as English media out there back in England to go all the way and when they lost their first three it was always like right, okay they've got to bounce back and they've got to bounce back quickly
Starting point is 00:14:57 but yeah Australia were favourites going into that World Cup and they played it out of their skin in the final didn't they? Well they did and I'm going to go to the toss here the night the captain of England will call and Meg Lanning the captain of Australia will toss the coin
Starting point is 00:15:10 tails please tails please I want to have And it's the tails. Heather, you're going to have a bowl first. We sat in the commentary box ahead of that toss and thought, the only way that England win this is if they bat, bat big,
Starting point is 00:15:27 and see if Australia crumbled chasing a big target. The coin went up, England won the toss, and elected to bowl. Australia piled on 356 for five. Elisa Healy, scoring 170 off just 138 balls. and at the halfway stage you sort of knew the game was done but it was an astonishing performance
Starting point is 00:15:50 from Australia's opener yeah it was I remember hearing we're going to have a bowl and having to rewind my tally to did I hear that right they're going to bowl really as you say you again another cliche of runs on the board
Starting point is 00:16:04 in the final is kind of what you want and I think I can't I don't think Alyssa Healy could believe her luck in terms of what Heather Knight had offered her but she's a big game player isn't it? She scored, I think, 75 off about 30 balls in the 2020 World Cup final in front of that packed crowd, that home crowd that home crowd that they had. And she loves those occasions. And I think she must have been thinking, you know, a wry smile thinking, I'm going to make you, I'm going to make you pay for this decision.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I'm going to score 170. And she was sensational. Cubs all's bowling to healing a miss. Now she's stumped and she's out. And that is the end of one of the most brilliant innings you could ever wish. to see. In a World Cup final, Alyssa Healy has crashed a magnificent
Starting point is 00:16:50 170 from 138 deliveries. All of the England players are running up to congratulate her. And the entirety of the Hagli Oval in Christchurch rises to acclaim Alyssa Healey's
Starting point is 00:17:08 wonderful innings. She's finally out for 170, Australia 316 for two. England had no answers to her and I think, you know, she's so well backed up the likes of Rachel Haynes and Beth Mooney in that final as well. Scoring half centuries probably would go unnoticed
Starting point is 00:17:25 compared to that kind of that massive performance at the top of the order and showing how smart they are. I think they sent in Beth Mooney a bit earlier than intended to that she was the left hand as she could take down Sophie Ackleston. They had every plan and every scenario kind of figured out and they just played it to perfection under pressure as they so often do. Yeah, I think the thing that stood out for me was obviously Healy's innings was exceptional
Starting point is 00:17:46 but Rachel Haynes, her strike rate was only 70 and I think that's because she played such an important innings with Healy who was dominating the game who was hitting the ball to all parts. Haynes could just almost sit in and just rotate the strike and if she faced a few dots she wasn't feeling pressure because of Healy at the
Starting point is 00:18:02 other end and then Beth Mooney came in and took down Sophie Eccleston like Fiona said I mean I remember Eccleston going for 70 and thinking that's so unlike England and then going into the second innings I mean Australia would just so on top, weren't they? Yeah, Rachel Haynes, actually in the tournament,
Starting point is 00:18:17 scored 497 runs and only Healy's 509 runs ahead of her. Third on the run scoring charts in the tournament, by the way, Nat Siverr as she was then, not Nat Siver Brunt, as she has subsequently become since marrying former teammate,
Starting point is 00:18:34 Catherine, scored one of the great innings that perhaps will be forgotten in a losing cause, 148, not out, from 121.21, halls. It was a stunning innings from that Siverbrund and looking back now
Starting point is 00:18:50 she only needed a couple more partners I know England fell 70-odd run short but she did brilliantly. Yeah she was incredible and probably you know it will be overshadowed by Alyssa Healy of course because that was in a winning effort but in terms of giving it a go I don't think
Starting point is 00:19:05 any of us thought England were going to kind of get close to that enormous total of 360 whatever it was but that's the player she is she doesn't ever give up and she will always kind of fight until the game is over and that's exactly what she did. But I think that's also the, that is the difference between England and Australia where, yes, you have this kind of innings of a lifetime from Alyssa Healy, but she's able to find a couple of people to stay with her. Nat Silverbrun is that
Starting point is 00:19:32 world-class player in England's side, but they were just, yeah, lacking just a bit of stability. As Alex said, somebody like a Rachel Haynes to just sit in, absorb the pressure, stick at the other end, get that on strike and they didn't quite manage to do that and in the end, obviously that was an amazing but in the end it was a comprehensive win for the Aussies. It was the spinners for Australia that did the damage, wasn't it? It was three wickets for Alana King,
Starting point is 00:19:53 three for Jess Jonathan and one for Ash Gardner and then all of a sudden it was game over. Nobody else got 30 for England, but I remember seeing Siverbrun's facial expression she'd hit a boundary and she'd almost like just sigh and go, okay, it's still not enough. She'd hit another boundary and she'd be like, oh, still not enough.
Starting point is 00:20:08 If you'd lose a wicket from one end, and she'd like, it's okay, come on, just stay with me, somebody stay with me, which obviously didn't happen, but I remember the highlights from that game and just Nat and the way she batted was so good to see, but it was just such a shame for England that nobody could stick with her.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And, you know, the top order not scoring runs, Heather Knight scoring 26, Tammy Beaumont, 27, and that was really it for England, a 20 for Jones, a 20 for Dunkley, and then it went one, three, two, 21 for Charlie Dean, thought maybe, maybe she could stick around, but wasn't meant to be.
Starting point is 00:20:37 She was outdone by Ash Gardener, and Australia won the trophy. for you again. Yep, once again. Ingle, we're all out for 285, by the way, with Siverbrunz unbeaten on 148. She just needed somebody to play one beginnings alongside her, and who knows what might have happened. But Australia victorious. Leading wicket-taker, by the way, in the competition, was Sophie Eccleston, who took 21 wickets, seven more than the nearest on the list. Chabney Mishmail, the South African fast bowler. And so Australia, the champions once again, a very familiar path for them. And I do remember hearing the story of the following morning, there was a meeting
Starting point is 00:21:15 organized for Australia. And the team got together and thought, well, what are they organized? What is this? What's the plan? What's the big celebration? And the meeting was, right, here's what we did well. Here is how we're going to continue to do well. And this is the business of winning, which is how the side have described it. They can celebrate as well. Don't get me wrong, but the way that they reacted was right. We sit down, we analyze and work up what we did right. and we work out then, how we're going to party? Yeah, I've spoken to a couple of the younger girls that were there at that World Cup. They were like, here we go, breakfast beers, here we go.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And it was like, no, no, how can we carry on getting better? And I'm sure they celebrated later on in the day, but it was a first and foremost meeting and then how do we get better. But that's what makes them such a dominant side, I guess. Indeed, Australia, the champions, they were absolutely outstanding. They won every game that they played in the tournament. It was a very unusual competition that had to be moved back because of the COVID pandemic, but ultimately it was played in front of
Starting point is 00:22:13 wonderful crowds in a wonderful location as well. And across the 31 matches, there were some brilliant games in there. To enjoy the champions of Australia, their seventh title, runners-up were England, a competition that ultimately would see Australia's dominance continue, but plenty of stories in there as well to delight as we move through another memorable tournament as part of the Women's World Cup journey. Thank you.

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