Test Match Special - How To Win The Ashes: Ben Stokes on Headingley 2019

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Ben Stokes relives one of the most remarkable comeback performances in Test Match cricket history as we look back at Headingley, 2019.

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How to Win the Ashes. Some of cricket's greatest players were telling us what it takes to be victorious in the sport's biggest battle of them all. We're going to head back to the last series held in England back in 2019. England are one-nill down as they head to headingly. With Australia's talismanic batsman Steve Smith absent,

could Ben Stokes bring England back into the series? What follows is one of cricket's most remarkable comeback performances. The TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. Before every Asher series, you see all the promotion and everything that goes into sort of building up the series and, you know, like, you know, back in Beefy's Day, you know, the stuff that Warnie was able to do, you know, all the great players from England and Australia, what they've done out on the field, you're always here about that stuff before the series gets going. So I think just the whole build-up and what Asher's cricket and the series have been able to produce for the spectators

is obviously always shrugged them from the defence. The bales are removed by Ampire Bowden, he throws one in the air, and England had won the ashes. Johnson's on his way. Bowles to Anderson is there, and that's the next side. He's taken. Anderson is out.

Mitchell Johnson takes a wicket and how fitting it should be that it's Mitchell Johnson that takes the wicket that wins Australia, the Ashes. He's caught, and that is the ashes retained by England. The history, obviously.

The Ashes has only ever played between Australia and England. You know, we obviously, as cricketers, we feel very lucky and fortunate enough that we're able to be a part of something like that. And, you know, when it dials down to it, at the end of the day, we go out when we play a game of cricket,

we play a game that we've done for so many years. It's 11 of us, for 11 of them. And the whole Lashes thing, it's just about making sure that understanding that that is what it is, and it's just the occasion that's a bit bigger. Goes into bowl to Smith, and Smith gets an outside of the off-stone.

He plays beautifully off the back foot, threading it through, out towards the extra cover boundary, broads after it's going down the hill, he won't stop it, it's gone for four. Steve's, I'm going to say, like a, almost like a freak of nature. Smith Drive, sue the covers for four, to bring up his second century of the match. A quite fantastic innings, he is having a magnificent test match, a magnificent return to test cricket. In a way, we should almost feel lucky that we play in an era where we get to play against Steve Smith. He's just, he's got everything worked out with the bat in his hand and he was very, very hard work bowling at him. What Smith came to do this time? Broad runs in, 81st over and he has a heave and he hits it hard and long and strong into the crowd.

A six over square leg. We tried everything, tactics, fields, the way that he bowled at him and he had an answer to everything. And whether someone, you know, is your opposition for, you know, five, six weeks like Steve was, you've just got to hold your hand up at greatness. Archer bowls to Smith, who's struck again. He's on the floor, Steve Smith. He's fallen onto the floor, helmet has come off. Joss Butler has rushed over to him.

He's gone. Yeah. They're pulling him off. We've just witnessed some brave cricket from one of the greats. He will have to leave the field of play on 80. Australia batsman Steve Smith has been ruled out of the third Ashes test at Headingley, after suffering concussion. He missed the last day of the second test at Lords

after he was hit in the neck by a 92-mile-per-hour bouncer from Joffre Archer. Joining me now is our cricket correspondent, Jonathan Agnew. In a sporting sense, Steve Smith's absence, of course, going to be a huge blow to Australia. How much more of an opportunity does this give to England? Well, enormous. I mean, they don't want to necessarily profit from this,

but I mean, this is what happens. If you get injured in any way, and you're not in a game, of course, it gives you a chance, especially when you happen to be the best batswood in the world who scored two hundreds and a 92 in the three efforts that he's had so far so yes absolutely

this gives England a tremendous chance they're won down they've got to win one more than Australia in this series anyway to get the ashes back again so it does represent a great chance all those fielders round the bat in goes leech and he bowls that's turned into the leg side comes off the pad

and that will be the end of the match and they're shaking hands and that is the end of it well an intriguing test match and one in which you do feel despite the fact that it's drawn that it's a winning draw as far as England are concerned in Australia there

we're fighting for their lead that suggests it's going to be a very interesting series of head indeed so good morning everyone and welcome to Headingly we're all set and ready to go for the third test match

in this Ashes series but I'll say all set and ready to go I mean we are except it's raining at the moment can you believe it the covers are on the players are starting to come off in dribs and trabs and traves

it's not heavy rain just thoroughly frustrated traiting light drizzle. I'm actually talking to you from the groundsman's shed. I've broadcast from a few strange places in my career, never from the grounds shed before. And here we have lawn mowers, we have a water hog, and it's all rather strange. I honestly don't know how they were approaching it before. We are a team that really tries to put focus on what we do. We analyse the opposition, yes, we have video footage of all the batsmen, all the bowlers and stuff like that to get an understanding of what they do but in terms of how they were preparing for

for the series i've got absolutely no idea the players are out there loosening up Stuart broads on one of the wickets about five away from the pitch there Jophr Archer's there as well i can see jack leach at least actually taking some catches down on the outfield joe you have the coin as usually up it goes oh he's straight straight to the photographers he's hit the camera that's tails well after all that one's give you that tears Dear Joe, what are you going to be doing? We're going to bowl first. They're bowling first.

There we are. He spun the coin straight into the cameras there and actually hit the television camera with it. It bounced off and ricocheted. Javagal Street enough had to go hunting around to find the coin. And here's the first ball of this crucial test match. Roared on his way. Waring number eight on his back. He's there.

Now he bowls and one has squared up. And defendants pushing the ball out to cover. Archer shadows at his feet. Oh, he's beaten him. He's caught behind. Moving away, the left hand have pushed at it. Board bowls down the leg side and does Kowager get something on it? They think so.

Usman Kowager has been dismissed, caught behind by Johnny Bearstoke. Bowls for Warner who gets him through the covers for four. A half volley on Yostom and Warner is just to hit that very crisply. Mavashane drives, there's no mid off. This will go all the way before I'm sure, just A gentle lean into the shot as he pushed back for two, but it's gone into the boundary just in front of us here. Warner on 45.

There goes Stokes to Bolton outside the Ostum. Cracked away, bad ball and dispatched by Warner. Towards the point boundary. And Warner places up and over backward point, down to the third man boundary before, and there is his half century. There were arms in the air from England fielders. Lovic Shane plays away for a quick single on the offside.

He's dabbed at Wight of Stuart Broad. He's strolling around the cover the pick-up. Lavishane brings up an invaluable half century. Balls full and that might be out from Lavishane as he ends up on the floor it's a slower ball it's sort of... It's a full toss. It's not even an 82 miles an hour it's a slight change of pace. He just ambles in, bowls widely off-stop and caught.

That's his five for his. Yes, it's been given. Jopra Archer has five. Right at midwicket, a fine leg and short leg as he bowls full to line. He's struck on the pad. He's given out. There's Joffre Archer swiveled and turns and punches the air. It has been a wonderful bowling performance from Joffre Archer in only his second test match. Australia all out for 179. Here's the first ball of the day. And Tim Payne had a huge leap in the air there as Cummings is on his way.

Is there any bowls? Anne Burns allows that first one to go through at quite a reasonable rate of knots too. Yeah, not a good start. getting bowled out for 67 Roy driving on his court oh it promised so much route edge taken that is a beauty of a catch coming short he goes after it he's clubbed it down the leg side burns us out he's on his way the short ball is done for him again and the England have really got the wobbles now at three four 20 you can never put your finger on why that happens ever they just do we were obviously very disappointed

in the way that we played. Pattinson. He was in Bolton. Edge Court. Court at first. He chased it. That was a poor shot. He had a swipe at the air.

Pattinson Bolston. Denley who dried. Edge taken by Tim Payne. He had been battling away so much. Joe Zenley. Hazelwood continues. Edge taken by David Warner. This is probably the best of them all diving away to his left.

And a little shimmy from him because he knows how good it is. Johnny Bearstow is the latest to go. The thing about test cricket is you have to get over those things very quickly because you've got another job to do. Hang up with it and he's down the leg side with a bit of glove. It's club, first ball after lunch. Hazard, he's on his way again. He bowls but the drives. He's caught at cover.

The Cummins tries again and Archie gets the bouncer and he's gloved that. I think he's out. Hazelwood moves in and bowls to Leach and Leach flicks his away. He's bowled him. Oh, he tried to flick it away. He's bowled around his pads. That's it. all over and England have been dismissed for 67. We had to put all the emotion that we had after that poor display with the bat away and go and bowl them out.

There are 112 runs behind. Get out of that if you can. The ashes look to be heading back to Australia. Well, unless England can do something similar, I think you're absolutely right, Simon. That's been outstanding from Australia. Leach Bowles and he swings into this and hits it long and high and that is going down to the boundary for four.

It landed near the rope. But a fine stroke from Labishan. He saw a little bit more air and he went down and under and away to the straight hit boundary. He's now 20 in Australia lead by 209 at the end of the other. Here's wokes.

Over the wicket again. Bowls very wide and that's driven for four. Poor ball. Very wide and full. And I'll say Labashane is a front foot player predominantly. and he does like to drive and it wasn't going to miss out on that one 132 for four broad bowling and it's shoveled into the leg side and there is a half century for labashane it goes out towards deep with wicket they've run two are they going to come back to the third no they decide against it as the throw comes in best they're looking into the sun there very well played nilus labashane that is his third half century of the series in three innings Replacement for Steve Smith, and he's doing Steve Smith's job very well.

Archer Bowls short, and that's the last wicket. Nathan Lyon looking to cut away. He inside edges it onto the stumps. That middle stump is pegged back. There is an applause around the ground for Joffra Archer. Australia bowled out for 246. So England need 359. Thoughts on that score?

I mean, if England do it, I mean, it will. be a monumental effort. It's a tough horse. That pitch out there, if you bowl well, get the ball in the right area. It's actually tough to score us. So I think the Australians, if they bowl anywhere near what they bowed that first inning, so I think they'll create ten chances today. Playing in the fourth innons is completely different to playing in the first second or third.

You've got that pressure on you. There is a score that you know you have to chase town, whereas all the other innings, you sort of, that doesn't really matter. So that was, yeah, that was a difference with fourth innings pressure. Cummins comes in now, bowl short to Burns. I thought it might have been a shot ball. A little off target. You want that first one.

We ride on the money. It was a little bit wider and a little bit short. Burns easily got out of the way of that. But I was thinking it might be going to give him a short ball here just to wake him up a little bit. Time wasn't an issue for us whatsoever. If we had to, we would have gone to the end of day five to get those runs if that's what we needed to do.

Hazelwood's on his way. He's bowling and burns his back. Edge, caught at first slip by Warner. His fifth catch of the match. Burns out. It's one for 15. Cummins Bowles. And he's edge and he's caught dropped.

Warner's dropped one. Has he? No, he's hit the old stump. He bowled him. That's why he dropped it. He hit the off stump. Two for 15. Joe Denley and Joe Root put on a fantastic partnership,

put overs into the bowler's legs. And, you know, slowly crept up our score closer to what we need to get. Edged by Denley, back on a point and this will go for four because there's no man, that third man. Here is Pattinson. Bowling to Denley who drives through the offside. This could be four as well.

It is. Here is Lion bowling. Tossed up, driven by route for four through the offside. That's his half century on his home ground and innings of defiance so far. Huge applause from the crowd, everyone on their feet as Joe Denley has gone to his second test 50. Denny waits, Hazelwood moves into bowl to him. And oh, he's Clayne behind there, is it out. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I think that's out.

He's giving him out and Denny hasn't seen the finger go up yet. I actually think it's hitting him on the shoulder about. What are they going to do? Are they going to review it? Roots come down to chat. He's been given out. I think that's out. And he's walking off.

Roots said, I think you love that. And so that's the breakthrough and Hazelwood has made it. Walking out to bat was, that was fine. Stokes is out there. And Hazelwood goes in and bowls to him, and Stakes gets a wide ball, which he allows to go through. I looked it up. I think if they were to win, they have to get the 10th highest score in the fourth inning's to win. There are only nine other scores. This would be the 10th highest. So that just shows you how big. How many test matches have to be, Andrew?

2,000? 2,355 completed tests, I think. Work the percentage out on that. Records are to be broken. They are to be broken. Ben Stokes, if there's anyone that can just try and spark something, it's him. You know, I just wanted to go out and finish the day not out and make sure that I could start again properly in the morning with Joe and at the end of that day we're in a very, very, very strong position.

Stokes just has a quick lookout to the legside boundary. Men around the bat is lion bowls around the wicket. Stokes leaves outside the off stump. Bit of turn on offer. Ben Stokes has 47 balls for us two. No interest in playing any attacking shots tonight. Three men around the bat is Lion Bowls to Stokes. who firmly pushes back to Nathan Lyon off the front foot

and huge applause from the crowd who again get up onto their feet and applaud the England players in the middle. So Route 75 not out as I mentioned, Stokes 2 off their few deliveries. Yeah, you know, I said I'd already decided how I was going to go about it if I got out there and it was to get through to the end of the day. if I was going to get out it was going to take a great ball or a great catch whatever it was but I wasn't going to give my wicket way easy and I was happy walking off with only two runs on the board that didn't bother me whatsoever because as I said at the start you know time wasn't the issue

the longer I was out there the longer Joe was out there the longer we were out there for as a batting team the more chance we had a winning good morning to you the fourth day of the third test match the possibility of a very special day the probability of Australia retaining the ashes. Just let me remind you of the equation. England need 203 more runs to win. Australia need seven wickets. You know, I thought going into that day that we were favourites to win that game. Everyone knows about this test match. I was in the taxi on the way up. People know it's on the radios. There's a real excitement.

Joe Root with a very determined look on his face and Ben Stokes as well. They're just waiting, they're about three or four yards away from me on the boundary edge, playing a few shadow strokes. Stokes is Getting his gloves on. And here's the first ball. 156 for three. And in goes Pattinson. And Bowles very full.

And Root jabs it down into the offside. The crowd thinks he's setting off for a run. But he doesn't do so. Lion Bowls. Oh, and there's a mistumping. There's a catch. He's sliver. He's out.

Root came down the pitch and he missed it. But he must have got just a little bit on it. And Lion has made the breakthrough before the new ball and it's Root who's gone. Stokesy pulls it away into the boundary. He's gone for six. That is a wonderful shot.

Short ball from Cummins. He just swivel, pulls it, and it flies away. 226 for four now. Hazelwood starts a new over. Best I back. Courted second slip by Labyshane. I'm bowling around the wicket to the left-hander as he comes through now, tosses up a bit more.

Stokes' defence, pushes to the offside. Hesitation is out. Josh Butner has been run out. Here's Hazelwood bowling and that's driven up Is he caught extra cover Hazelwood gets another one Wokes went for the big drive and Australia are closing in

on retaining the ashes and lion goes into Archer Archer swings at the next ball he's hit that high in there he could be caught in the deep he's out Pattinson bowls he's beaten, gone right through him LBW Plum

the ninth cricket is down the Australians are celebrating because they're on the verge of another Ash's victory here. So Jack Leach has come out, left-hander, number 11, and Australia on the verge here of completing a significant win. 73 needed for the last wicket. Well, I had to go from the way I was playing,

sort of like, you know, from being in gear 2 to when Leachie came out to go straight up to like, you know, five, gear six, really. Lion dropping them on the spot, bowls again, and he does swing, and he does hit the ball long and strong, straight down the ground. For six, he needs a bad, or ten more of both. Bowles to Stokes, who chops that away into the offside and gets his 50. Cummins Bowles to him, and he plays the ramp again. He does it well, perfectly, and it goes down to the boundary for six.

England need 40. You know, I knew that everyone was going to be back on the boundary when I was on show. strike, so, you know, I had to try and, you know, clear them or hit them in the gap to get my boundaries. Lion goes to Stokes. He plays the reverse sweep, and he's slated. A colossal shot. He's hit it for six.

Amazing stroke from Ben Stokes. The reverse sweep into the Western Terrace for six in his 83. And now we have Hazelwood bowling to Ben Stokes. Here he comes, he bowls, and he's flogged that away into leg side. That should go for four. The field are down. They can't get it. And Ben Stokes has reached a truly remarkable hundred.

Milestones in a situation like that count for nothing, you know. If we hadn't have won that game and I'd say go 120 and we'd lost, it wouldn't have meant anything because we'd lost the ashes. So the only number that I was focused on was the amount of runs that we needed to win. He's 100 not out. Hazelwood comes in, bowls to him. And that's way over deep square leg. That's six. There's Cummins again.

He's rolling to Stokes, who waits and hits that hard into the leg side. There's two men out there, four. The only time I really got nervous was when we got to single figures. Because when you get down to eight runs needed as what is when I started feeling a little bit nervous about what should I do here. Because you can win it in three or four different ways. But, you know, I quickly just said, well, we've got this far by me playing a certain way that I don't change it. it because we've got so close now. But all the way from 70 down to, you know, that eight runs to win, I was in the same mindset of, you know, trying to hit as many boundaries and pushing

the twos as a possibly could. There was only one that I hit, which I thought didn't have enough, which was off-lying when we needed eight to win. Bowls and Stokes his side that, it's six or out. It's six! It's six! I didn't think I'd had enough on that. I was blowing it as I hit it, just to give it a bit extra. I didn't think it hit that hard enough, I must be honest. He didn't get it, but it still, oh, Carries nicely. Two to win. I'm not sure if it was doubt that we could win.

It's just, as I say, when we got down to eight, that's when I started questioning the way I should play. I started going on in my head, you know, the different ways that we could get this eight runs. But I don't, yeah, I don't think that's doubt. It's just a moment where I had of, should I do anything different, but quickly told myself, no, just keep going.

Jack Leach is polishing his glasses. Can't have a tie, can we? He goes, Lion. Bowls, reverse sweep, fielder field. Over there. No, no, no. He's set off. Oh!

Lions dropped it. Lyche actually can't speak about this. He hates it. I've done a few Q and A's of them when it gets asked about it and he just doesn't answer it. He just doesn't want to speak about with the poor lad. No.

He was run out by yards and Lion has dropped the ball. I think because we got into a mindset of, I'm going to take four or five and Leachie can take one that I can't remember. It was either two balls ago, one ball to go, where Leach he ran. No. Leach survives. He's set off for that run. I don't know why. Stokes wasn't going anywhere.

Whether or not he's just gone, oh, we're going to run here. I remember reverse sweeping and then just like here, everyone shout up and Leachie was like here. And I was just like, no, mate, what you do? He should have been run out by two yards. Wow. And Leach dropped. Leach was well short and Lion dropped the ball. He dropped the ball. And then watching the ball come back in was.

like slow motion and yeah, seeing the line drop it was just like, wow. It was literally just like, my God, I cannot believe that's happened. They're showing it on the screen. Oh, ha ha ha ha. Wow. That's just spoiled it, hasn't it? I remember watching it back and all the Australians were running towards where the ball was being thrown to. And then for him to try and collect that ball, take the thumbs off in that situation. It is a lot harder than what it sounds.

I relate to when Jason fumbled the ball in the World Cup Super Over. He doesn't do that. He never does it. He's one of our best fielders, but there's pressure. It makes you do things that you could normally do with such ease and it makes it a lot harder. But when that ball got dropped and hit the floor, it was like, I cannot believe that just happened.

It's still two to win. It's the last ball of the over. What Stokes going to do? He's going to slog it. In goes lion. Bowles to him. He does slog it. He does slog it.

It's unpowerful leg before wicket. It's unpowering it. He's giving it. Out. No. No reviews. Not out. No reviews. Umpire Wilson has said not out. Oh, ho. From a sweep. If that is out with the way Wilson's had this. Oh. Oh, no. Hitting. Hitting. Like middle and leg. Absolutely dead. He's got, he's given everyone out except that one. Wow. That's out. I'm looking into Australian dressing room there. That is very poor.

That review that they burned off earlier. They burned off that one that we said should they do it? They did it. Yeah, but still... They took a gamble. It was a bad decision. No, it's a horrible decision, not even bad. It was just one of those days where, yeah, like it was like, whatever I do here, I feel like it's going to come off.

And you just have days like that. Headingley, you know, some of the sixers I was hitting, they were just going over the field as head. you know outstretched fingers and everything like that I don't know whether that's just because everyone has days like that or you get that look because you feel so confident what you're doing I'm not sure yeah everything seemed to work that day two to win a wicket now and Australia retain the ashes one run and out it's a tie Jack Leach is going to face the start of an over here we go 357 for nine Here's Cummins, bowls, and it's short and very well played.

Stokes going for the run, through they come. Ingram can't lose. I mean, after Leachie got that single, it was like, we're still in the ashes here. We can still win the ashes. The ashes are alive. 3.58 for 9. Stokes on strike. Ingle need one to win.

I got given that ball from Pat Cummins, you know, who doesn't bowl balls like that tier. He was phenomenal throughout the whole series. You know, he managed to bowl the ball, just in sort of exactly where you'd want it. And in comes Pat Cummins from the far end. You bowels to Stokes, who hammers it for four. And stands there with a back raised. I can't believe we've seen that. And I knew as soon as I'd hit it that we'd won.

That is the most extraordinary innings ever, ever been played by an Englishman. He punches the air, his helmet's off. and he slumped to his knees. I don't think I'd really given much away emotionally throughout that whole hour, partnership, or throughout the whole inns, to be honest. But then when we finally hit the runs, then, you know, everything just, yeah, came out.

And there's shaking of hands, there's hugs there, and that is a fantastic sight, by the way. In the absolute heat of ashes battles. I've got images in my head now, actually. I remember Joss just being like... He was walking onto the field, almost just, like, he had his hands on his head, and he was just like what's gone on here, what's happened?

Like, Rudy was so like, remember him sort of not having a smile on his face? It's just like staring at me. Brody gave me like a nice, you know, big man hug. Jason Roy's been, you know, typical self, just like putting his big, strong hands on you, slapping him on the back and stuff like that. But that moment there where I was sort of in the middle of everybody was, it was awesome. Ben Stokes, absolutely incredible. Man of the match, without a doubt.

without a doubt. I just understand how he's played that innings. It's absolutely amazing. I don't think he can believe. He's standing there. He's just taking it in. He's got his hands on his head and he's just looking around the ground.

That's what it's about, you know. That's the thing about the team sport is that you get to share it with so many people who have gone through the same emotions that you've gone through by but watching just as happy as you are. Just as, you know, I've seen people do amazing things out on the cricket field as well and when they're walking off you know with their helmet off lifting

their bat up and congratulating them you know that's what it's all about and you just get to celebrate it with so many people which is the best thing Stokesy look you know remember what he's been throughout the last three or four years and now you know he trains like no other he trained so hard and he's just getting rewards of being the hardest working cricketer he is the heartbeat of this England side and you know I generally it's been a privilege to sit and watch that innings we obviously went to Old Trafford and we had to put all of that behind us.

I made a point in the sort of team huddle on a first training session, like saying like last week was obviously an amazing thing to be part of, but all that's done has given us a lifeline in the series. Being gone, we find ourselves here that we need to win this game as well. We can't. We've just got to put all of that stuff, all that emotion that we found last week of happiness and joy and we need to need to concentrate on this week. And you know, like as it turns out, Australia won

you know, regain the Ashes that game and when you look back on things like that you go like I would swap it all if we came away

with the Ashes that series you'd take it all back that heading the game that heading the moment you know I'd swap it all to say that we won that series

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