Test Match Special - KP and Colly remember England’s World T20 triumph

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

10 years on from England’s first ever triumph in a men’s global tournament, man of the tournament Kevin Pietersen and captain Paul Collingwood look back on the 2010 World T20 win in the Caribbean.... Find out how a mascot called Lucky, taking golf clubs to training and a late change at the top of the order all helped England lift their first ever ICC trophy.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 England finally all out for 194 in one of the most... And Australia have won the 1987 World Cup final in Calcutta. They have beaten England by seven runs. Anyworth is out. Pakistan have won the World Cup. England in their third final have been defeated again. England had never won a men's global trophy before. I'm Paul Colin Wood.
Starting point is 00:00:59 and I was England's captain for the 2010 T20 World Cup. Hi, I'm Kevin Peterson, and I was a player of the tournament in the 2010 T20 World Cup in the Caribbean. And this is the story of how we won our first ever world trophy. One to win, Collingwood on strike. In comes Watson, he bowls to him, hits him into the leg side, there it is. And England win, and the England team come dashing on to the field,
Starting point is 00:01:25 led by Kevin Peterson. They're dashing after Paul Collingwood, the captain. And I'm about to say words have never been uttered before. That is that England are the world champions of cricket. Expectations leading into the T20 World Cup in 2010 were the expectations that led into every single World Cup that England had played in to date. You'd like to think we thought that we'd end up winning, but history was completely against that England team. Leading up to the tournament, we had a game against the lines in Abu Dhabi and it opened our eyes in terms of the power that these two had at the top of the order. Michael Lum and Craig Kiesweather really took our ballers down.
Starting point is 00:02:14 West Indian wickets can slow up in the middle periods. Spinner's a bowl and can slow up. And if you've got two strikers at the top that can take advantage of the first six overs, then that's probably going to give us a much, much better opportunity in a day. game than having two guys that and without with the greatest deal of respect to Denley and Trott at the time they they certainly weren't match winners in T20 cricket at the top of the order to have the guts to be able to do that at the last second because it was last second you know proved to be a good decision in
Starting point is 00:02:48 the end cricket at the top of the order it was crash bang wallop at the start and you keep crash bang wallop The importance of the RPL had it basically from an experience of T20 cricket point of view. It was just the more you play, the better you become in it, the more you understand the game. And having Paul Collingwood, having Owen Morgan and myself in the setup, we started to see the way that the other teams around the world were playing, the way the other players around the world were thinking about the game. And I think that it stood us in good stead to be able to make changes,
Starting point is 00:03:28 necessary changes changing the English mindset. Something that we picked up himself and Kevin Peterson picked up from the IPL was the range hitting, the amount of range hitting that the guys were doing. So understanding the dimensions of the ground when you're right out in the middle, when you're on the park, understanding what the wind's doing to the ball. Everybody in the team could hit sixes and I remember a particular training session where we would go and practice just hitting sixes. Bowlers would bowl and I can't imagine it was the most enjoyable practice for the bowlers, and I can't imagine it was the most enjoyable practice for the net bowlers
Starting point is 00:04:01 either. Every single batter from ball one walked out to just hit sixes. And it was a great practice. It was a fun practice. You know, the confidence that a batsman gets, when he's in the middle and he's hitting the ball and he's only getting three quarters of a bat on it, it's still going ten rows back into the stands. You know when you get into a game that even if they got a boundary rider on the roll, you can still take them on. And those little things are huge in a players' confidence. If you're getting a license from the hierarchy, from your head coach and from the rest of your players, that we back you to do that. Then those little sessions just give you that, you know, they just finish that confidence
Starting point is 00:04:39 off and there was many sessions like that where you would enjoy yourselves hitting the ball into Rozette if you could. When I practiced, I was hitting straight. I was hitting Cal Corner. I was slug sweeping because I was trying to figure out for myself. If I go straight, how hard do I need to hit it? It goes straight to clear a boundary. How hard do I need to hit it over Cal Corner?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Which bat am I feel really comfortable using? How well am I playing at the moment to trust myself enough to give it a go if the ball is in my area? It's all these things that you've got to train your brain to make yourself believe that you can actually do something when the bright lights are shining. 15 minutes. I can give you some news as well. West Indies have won the toss. Not surprising with the weather around, Duckmouth Lewis and all that. They've put England into bat. So a good toss there for Chris Gale to have won. He's back in the side again, incidentally. England, let's give you that team. They'll open with Lum and Kiersveter, with Peterson at number three, Collingwood, Morgan, Bright, Bresnan, Yardy, Swan, Broad and Side. West Indies are still
Starting point is 00:05:57 believed we would have won that game if it had had gone the full of 20 overs. We got a good score on the board. And Chris Gale does what Chris Gale does. And he came out the first six overs and he hurt us. And Gail is forward, driving for four. Lovely shot between mid-off and extra cover. Gail swings it in the air, and that could go for sixth.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yes. We thought that we had actually played well. And it wasn't that typical England team that just capitulated from then. Our practices got better. And we believed, you know what, the way that we've played there, we've been done by the weather here, we've been completely done by the weather in Guyana.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Chris Giel and Shivner and Chandapal are trying to stay ahead of the run rate and unfortunately the weather is coming into play here again. And the way that we then went into the next game, into the next game, into the next game, to the next practice, the way that the guys spoke, there was a level of confidence there to make guys believe that we could actually do a lot better
Starting point is 00:06:50 than we actually thought. I was happy that we got a score up towards 200. Now that gave me more confidence as a leader, as a captain, that we could make these big scores. But not only that, I just, I knew our bowlers if we got it right. They were going to be the real weapon in western these conditions. We had good variety in our attack.
Starting point is 00:07:14 We were coming from different heights, from different angles. We had the spin twins in the middle of Swan and Yardy. I mean, an unlikely combination, but two that were superbly effective all the way through. effective all the way through. And with that we wish you a very good afternoon. Once again from Georgetown Guyana, a rather unhappy reminder of what happened here yesterday afternoon, of course, when England lost that game by eight wickets on the Duckworth Lewis.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Remifications, of course, plenty of chuntering going on in the background about that recalculation. But they've got to put it behind them now. We're here under cloudy skies facing Ireland. We've had a very wet morning to the extent of the... The Ireland game was a nervy game for us. Playing an associate team, which they were at the time, and sometimes to be a real banana skin. So that was one that we kind of got away with,
Starting point is 00:08:09 but it got us through to the next stage. Now if it's washed out, I can say with my usual degree of virtually zero confidence that England would go through because of those 191 that they scored against West Indies. Once we got through that kind of the first, stage and got into the real games. We just built on momentum. It was like a juggernaut.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Every single game, we just seemed to get better and better. The team did not change. People knew what their roles were. And we were enjoying ourselves off the park. I'm not going to hide away from the fact that you're in the Caribbean. Enjoy it. Enjoy the beaches, enjoy the golf courses. We were turning up a training session with all of our golf clubs in our golf kit.
Starting point is 00:08:52 We were train hard. We would enjoy the training session. We would do the things that made you really confident, ready to go into the game. And then off we went straight after, onto the golf courses. Some guys would go back to the beach around the pool. And mentally, just going into these games with laughter, with the smiling face, and enjoying the game of cricket, okay, it's a World Cup. But you've done the hard work, you've done the preparation.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Now go out there, we back here and have fun. You cannot be conservative, you cannot not be spontaneous, you cannot not be aggressive, you cannot not take risks if you want to win a T20 World Cup. You can't. You're not going to take a risk, you're going to come last, you're going to be on the first plane out of there. You don't want to be spontaneous, you're going to be gone. If you're not confident, you may as well not even turn up. I remember lots of conversations to the players, and we're doing them in a team,
Starting point is 00:09:55 so the whole team knew what the plan was. For example, if Michael Lung, you go out first ball and as a left-arm spinner bowling at you, as a left-hander, we will give you the license to take him down. Same as Keyesley, if you're facing an off-spinner, we will give you the license. If you fail, we all know what the plan is. And that kind of freedom was so powerful
Starting point is 00:10:20 in terms of when they go out there, you could see the relax. the relaxation on them. They just enjoyed putting the pressure on the baller rather than the other way around. And we were in that way, we were trying to do things differently to what we've done in other World Cups.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And I think that real kind of backing and freedom from your teammates helped us all the way through the tournament. One to win. In goes Ajmal, he bowls to Kevin Peterson. Surely he mounted the match and he goes back and forces that passed a freed his left-handed extra cover it's another boundary to Kevin
Starting point is 00:10:58 Peterson who taps his bat into his ground at this end what a fine innings he's played and England win by six wickets come side bottom bowls his bowling it's all over and England win they win by 39 runs having bowled South Africa out for 129 so a packed circle England need one to win and it's Mills running in and bowling to Bresden who swipes into the leg side it finishes with the boundary and a tremendous cheer breaks out A lot of England support here to see England finish at the top of their group. They can't do any more than this.
Starting point is 00:11:29 They're through to the semifinals. They were before this match began, but they've now confirmed that status by defeating New Zealand by three wickets and with five balls to spare. I think the three games against Pakistan, New Zealand and South Africa, I think we were so dominant in the games. And we did make mistakes against Pakistan. We weren't at our best, but we still went on and won that game, which again gives you confidence when you're not playing at your best.
Starting point is 00:11:54 but apart from that, it was almost we were just getting better and better and the plans were working for the bowlers. And that was a key thing. We could use the winds. We were getting used to the prevailing winds out in the West Indies. We're getting used to making the batsman
Starting point is 00:12:10 hit the ball into the longest part of the boundary. So the skill level of the bowlers was just rising all the time and their confidence of executing plans. No matter what batsman came in, was just grown all the time. So the understanding between himself and the bowlers, What Bresi could do in the back in the last three overs.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So Brezin is on the way and he's bowed him. What Brody could do. Yeah, but what he's done is very dispaced beautifully. He's both slowballs, bounces. Sidney was coming in with the slowball bounces from a different angle. Side bottom again to Abdurazak. He swings and it goes again. He's going to be caught though at a long half, straight into the lap of the field out there.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Our spin twins through the middle were just doing their jobs. I mean, Swanee was instrumental in terms of, I think the opposition had to I think the opposition had so much respect for him that they just wanted to see him off. But he was a real gambler of a bowler, you know, flight in there, trying to take wickets. Swann, around the wicket pulls again and that's been hit in the air and surely here Smith's going to be caught. The field is getting underneath it, takes the catch. Where Yards was just firing us with his left arm from the other end and they were trying to take risks against him and he was taking wicket. There's yarding, bossfully bowed, reverse sweep is bowled him.
Starting point is 00:13:19 All this kind of strategies and tactics were working. And we knew if we stuck to these plans, no matter who we were playing against, and what abilities and skill that they had, that they were working for us. And I think that was crucial through those three games, that the plans were just filled in every single game. I was on Cloud 9. It was the birth of my first child. It was a very emotional time for me. And to be honest, I wasn't even really thinking about batting.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I was thinking about Jess and I was thinking about Dillard. the whole time I was in the Caribbean. There were bigger things out there for me than a game of cricket. I was going to always play another game of cricket. I was going to go to the Caribbean. I was going to go to India. I was going to go to Australia.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I was going to go all over the place. And so that free spirit that I played with in the Caribbean served me so incredibly well. And I remember I was just thinking about flights. I was thinking about the volcano that was going off in Iceland and nearly missing the birth of my child because the plane had to fly all the way around Iceland, the top of Iceland.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I chartered a jet from, I think it was from Bob. Badoos to Jamaica to get to a plane that took me from Jamaica to New York. And then from New York, I had to fly around the volcano. I got into London on the morning of when it was. I went straight to the hospital. I went and saw everything that was happening at the hospital. Dylan was born, spent the day with Jess. It was just the most emotional, amazing day.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Then I went home for a couple of hours when I couldn't keep my eyes open longer. I went home for a couple of hours. had a sleep, came back to the hospital, saw just, saw everything was okay. I then had a car that took me straight to back to see Helix Station. And then from there, I took a chopper straight to the British Airways airplane. I remember sleeping all the way to the Caribbean. As soon as I landed, I had another chopper that flew me straight to the hotel, and I went in practice, and then the next day played the semifinal. So it was crazy. I mean, 48 crazy hours. I can tell her that Shulanga won the toss
Starting point is 00:15:31 and no surprise that they decided to bat first today. So looking at England out there, Peterson, of course, is back at the side. He's made it. In fact, he's just doing a roly-poly catch there, practicing some slip catches. So he's back from, of course, watching his baby being born over back at home in the UK.
Starting point is 00:15:47 He flew back again yesterday, and he's ready to go again today. Imagine what you can do these days, isn't it? It's a jet around the world as if it were nothing. I think the thing that stands out against Sri Lanka was you need to get two big players out, and that is Jaya Saria and Tla Kratna, Dillushan. And T20 cricket can be cruel sometimes
Starting point is 00:16:11 because you might play well, but if one player in the opposition has that day, and those two players, to me, were the danger men. So to get Gaiuseria early, I always remember City coming in, just swinging one away from him and catching that edge. And it was almost, it came to me like slow motion. I just, I knew it was such a big moment, but it just felt when it came in the air. It was like in slowmore.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I don't know why, but it managed to stick. And it was a great start of the game. You've gained momentum in such an important game so early on because you've got one of their big players. As side bottom comes in to Jayocera, and he's edged to. he's out caught a second slip and then to get dilshan something that we've spoken about in the team meetings it's great when you have the team meeting and players really respond to them and and talk about how you're going to get these guys out certainly in the first three balls but where are their weaknesses and we managed to get him out on the pull shot the hook shot we got it high
Starting point is 00:17:14 enough and and the ball went straight down the throat Bresden now to Dilshan and Dilshan is hooking down towards deep backward square leg he comes in to take the catch and does well very good catch in the deep well judged superbly taken right at his Luke Wright coming in from deep backward square leg the short ball Dilshan went into the hook shot well judged by right those kind of things you know when the bowlers have got their strategies and when they work you think this could be our day and it was it was a comprehensive win And to beat Sri Lanka with that top order in St. Lucia was an unbelievable effort for us. But I remember Ryan Seidot and bowled so beautifully.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I hit the top of the stumps, but it was the lengths that the bowler's bowled. And it was the way that the batterers approached their batting in the most fantastic aggressive nature. Keysveta down the wicket and straight back overhead for a long six. Here's Keys Vieter, thumping him down the ground. It'll come for four. In comes Rundee. Randy Bowles and that's thrashed away into leg side, four runs, bounce just inside the boundary edging
Starting point is 00:18:22 and the way it's going at the moment, England's going to romp this. Flew back in. I had one training session the day before and then, yeah, I played against them and then I remember slogging Randy, the offspringer. Here's a lofted shot by Peterson. He's hammered that. It's gone a very long way indeed.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's one of the biggest sixes we've seen so far. England needs one to win. So the field comes in, Malinger's on his way. Peterson's ready for him is there. He bowls, driven straight down the ground, as imperious as he like. and Kevin Peterson is saying we'll see you in the final
Starting point is 00:18:50 whoever it is wonderful shot it seals victory for England Peterson finishes on 42 from only 26 balls and they've won this semi-final with four overs to spare which in 2020 cricket
Starting point is 00:19:03 is a huge amount and they're celebrating down there in the dugout I remember the celebrations after the semi-final went Actually, Andy Flower came up to us and said, Collie, I think we may have to taper down on the celebrations. We're in a final now. I said, no, Andy.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I said, right from the start, we've talked about having a team together and enjoying each other's company. So whether it's the first game of the tournament or the semi-final or the final, we're going to continue to do what we've been doing. I said, we're not going to change things now. And Andy, you could see you was kind of reluctant. But we had a big night.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We really did. We enjoyed it. So leading into the final was very much like what we'd done before. You know, get the training sessions in. But we went and played golf up at Apes Hill in Barbados. I remember it's, and we were actually listening. We were watching on our phones, the scorecard, Pakistan versus Australia. And we were on the, I think I was on the second, the par three going up the hill, and Hussey was smashing it everywhere, and the last over.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And a remarkable win from nowhere. Pakistan should have won the game, and it was Australia. I don't think talking about the opposition at that time was something that England team did. The focus was purely on the way that we had been playing our games, the confidence that we had got from beating South Africa, beating Pakistan, beating Sri Lanka, and we knew that playing in Barbados on a wicket that Barbados presented, we would have a damn good opportunity of winning that tournament against a sort of Western nation because of the teams that we had beaten, the confidence that we had got from those victories. David Saker tells a great story that the Australian boys were saying,
Starting point is 00:21:18 I think we've won it now. And David Saker, who was new, an Aussie in our ranks, he was new to our ranks. Couldn't believe the confidence of the Aussies. And he had to try to put them right a little bit. He said, I think you might come up against a pretty strong team. And I always remember the day before I had to go for photographs with Michael Clark with the trophy.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And I sense a bit of nervousness in his voice, which I'd never really come across when I'd played against Australia in the past and I took a lot of confidence from that nervousness and tried to relay that across to the boys. Can England end 35 years
Starting point is 00:22:02 have heard? Can they win a major ICC trophy? It's the World 2020 final. It's England against Australia at the Kensington Oval in Bridgetown Barbados or Hull. Test match special team of there. Tony Cose Servive Richards and first of course Jonathan Agnew. And out come Australia's openers into the fray.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Fantastic atmosphere here for those of us who enjoyed the national anthem. The one particular moment where I knew that it was going to be our day was when we were leading the mascots out to the anthems. And every player gets a whole of a mascot's hand. And they're all lined up. The players are lined up from either end. And the mascots come in. And I had a young girl, and as you do, you want to make them feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You're asking what their name is. And she looked at me and she said, my name is Lucky. And I literally just kind of the warmth in my heart, I promise you it. I just, I turned around to Brody and said, Brody, we've got this. We've got this, mate. I said, this young girl's name is Lucky. I said that's just a great sign and off we went and we went in the line and we sang the anthems and I generally just thought we're okay today we're going to be okay and now it all comes down to
Starting point is 00:23:23 what we're going to hear over the next three hours or so the dancers taking up their positions we've got the opening bats when Australia was put into bat also in their position run sidebottom's going to bowl the first time The start up behind City was just on fire. And side bottom, hair everywhere, comes rushing in bowls outside the ostump, a carving stroke, and is that a catch? It is a brilliant rebound catch at Slip. Keys Vetter dropped it originally, as Watson there was forcing off the back foot.
Starting point is 00:24:02 It went into the keeper's gloves, it bounced up, and Graham Swan at Slip was able to pounce on it. A lucky rebound. In goes Bresden, bowls on the off stump, pushed away. Oh, some uncertainty, this could be a runout. Something that we worked on so much and discussed. If you're in the ring, we're not just hanging back in defence mode. It was a real tactic all the way through the World Cup that he would try to get as close and cut the angles down as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And it is a runout as Michael Lum runs in, underarms at the stump. And what a huge wicket that is. It's David Warner. There was plenty of bounce and pace in the pitch, and Siddy was really at the bit between his teeth. Long way to go. Income side bottom. Bowles to Haddon, short down the leg side.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Keyes better takes it. A wonderful catch. Is he out? Yes, he is out. There's just a little glove around the corner, and the celebration. I just remember when it goes in the gloves and everybody, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:02 everybody's jumping up as it's going into the gloves. And the celebration straight away, you kind of just everyone's. running in and it's like you've won the World Cup but you've got a long way to go yet. Camera white, it's another six. Into the Sobo's pavilion just the left of it in fact into some empty seats there. It was the first time that's Michael Yardy had really been taken down which meant I had to go to plan B and we hadn't really done that throughout the tournament so my plan B was Luke Wright. So Wright's done a pretty good job. The first
Starting point is 00:25:39 first time he's bowling in the tournament. Turns now, and he's on the way to White. It's high swirling catch, not dissimilar to the one which was dropped a while ago, and that's magnificently held. Wrighty came on for one over and did the job. We got the wickets, Broly managed to hold onto it, and we were back to Plan A again after that.
Starting point is 00:25:59 But David Hussey and Mike Hussey, there are a couple of decent players in the back end of the innings, and they managed to get their scoring rate up, and they managed to give themselves the lead little bit of a wharf. 147 wasn't enough on that wicket in Barbados. When you work out the numbers, 147, a runner ball, 120, you've got 27 runs. 27 runs takes you five balls.
Starting point is 00:26:22 You only need to hit five boundaries and you only need a runner ball. And in T20 cricket, a runner ball is nothing. 147 was never ever going to be a problem. We had to start well. We lost LUM early on, but I think the way that Keyesweather and Peterson played was really did calm the nerves in the dugout. They'd actually gone out there and walked to walk. Then comes Johnson, bowels to Peterson,
Starting point is 00:26:48 who clears his left leg, drives him through extra cover. Out towards the boundary, it goes, screams breakout on the beach. Wide of the off stump, not a good ball, and Keyesvedder just thrashed it through the gully and down to the boundary. And Peterson hits it, square on the offside for four. Keyesvedder's been bowled by Johnson coming around the wicket. My thoughts when Keyeswether got out was we should have this game in the bag, but you still, as a player and as a captain, you still want to go out there and see the game to the end.
Starting point is 00:27:32 So I was nervous. I was very nervous because you're really close to getting that prize. and the closer he gets the prize the lesser thing about the process and I just wanted to go out there and think about how I was going to get the team over the line and I actually had Shane Watson
Starting point is 00:27:49 coming up to bowl who was you know medium quick but a guy that I thought I really do fancy just back yourself we've talked about all the way through the tournament that if you back yourself you've got far more
Starting point is 00:28:01 of the chance of succeeding and I'm going to try to hit him into the stand I had the prevailing wind with us. And I had some almighty hacks. They were dreadful shots. But it wasn't, to me, it's not about how pretty you're being. It's about getting a job done.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And thankfully, I back myself to try to take on that bowler at that time. And just when you're getting closer and closer, I think I got them away for one, six, and then an inside edge for four. And when you're getting closer and closer at the target, you're going, we've won this. And, you know, there's no better feeling than hitting the winning runs. One to win. Collingwood on strike. In comes Watson, he bowls to him. Hits him into the legside, there it is.
Starting point is 00:28:41 An England win. And the England team come dashing on to the field, led by Kevin Peterson. They're dashing after Paul Collingwood, the captain. And I'm about to say words have never been uttered before. And that is that England are the world champions and cricket. It's never happened. Words can express the feeling of winning a World Cup and running around, carrying on like a lunatic. just crazy scenes. England, the champions, the ICC World 2020, 2010.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And that's where the celebrations will continue, I'm sure. They go on long into the night, as Paul Collingwood holds the trophy aloft. It's the first time England have ever won anything like this, but now they're celebrating there a group of very happy young men, indeed, holding high the trophy, as England there are world champions at 2020 cricket and indeed in any form.
Starting point is 00:29:35 to win that tournament in the Caribbean, in Barbados, beating Australia with that team, and having never ever done that before was so, so special. I mean, Aga says, this has never been said before. England are world champions at cricket. So to be a part of that, it just brings back the most fondest of memories.
Starting point is 00:29:58 When you're in it, you sometimes don't realize what you're in. And when you finish your career, and you look back on, some of the achievements you've had, that to me, in terms of that feeling I had inside myself, if you could bottle that up, you would be a very rich man, I tell you, because that was just pure elation. It was just freedom, it was happiness, it was, I don't think it can get any better than that. I really don't. It's just pure heaven. That's why you play the game. It's literally the reason you play the game of cricket and why you put all the hard yards in over the years.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And to get that one feeling in your career was like, wow, I do not want this to end at all. It was fantastic.

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