Test Match Special - No Balls: Crossy’s back to County Cricket after The Hundred

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Kate Cross & Alex Hartley discuss the trials and tribulations of playing cricket towards the end of the season. They have their say on the awful abuse umpire Sue Redfern received after the T20 Blast Finals Day. Plus, Alex tells Crossy what a ‘productive day’ looks like in the Hartley household.

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It jags back. It's the nipbacker. That is a beauty from Kate Cross. An absolute seed. That is a beauty from Cross. Good morning. Hello, welcome back to Nobles the cricket podcast. No, I don't like that.

That was weird, wasn't it? Good morning, then. Hello and welcome back to Nobles, a great podcast with me, Alex Harley, and you, Kate, Ross. I tried to mix it up, but it didn't work. Every time we try and mix it up, we don't like it, so let's just never try and mix it up. No, no, no, I started off saying good morning, but it sounded, you just went... No, yeah, no, I think everyone will have heard that. No, I was hoping Jack could cut that out.

No, I think that's probably going to stay in, let's be honest. Okay, okay. The reason you said good morning, though, is because it is the morning, and we don't ever do podcast in the morning because we're typically not very awake before 11 a. Night owls. Night owls, aren't we? We're not good in the mornings. No, how are you?

I'm tired because we're just working on. What about you? Well, I don't know what in the Arbageddon is going on outside, but I am absolutely exhausted. I didn't sleep last night. We went and had lunch yesterday, didn't we? And we both, without talking to each other, had the idea that we'd meet halfway between where we live

and then both of us either run or walk home because exercise is good for you. And then the weather forecast was so shocking that the second you sat down, actually, you couldn't see the window, but the second you sat down, it started raining and didn't stop to you till now, I think. I know, and then I texted when I got home,

and I was like, imagine it was actually having to run or walk home. We wouldn't have done it. Would have Uber did it? No, we absolutely would have. We also had the idea that we both bring each other presents as well, which was really sweet. I got mine in an actual present bag You got yours in Waitrose bag

It's good back that I didn't really acknowledge how good a bag It was until I got in the car So thank you Isn't it? It's such a good shopping bag Because you can put it in its own case That was a bag within a present

Within a present really Because you know Those bag for life are great I did pick out the best bag for you Thank you I actually did spend a bit of time picking out the best bag for you Thanks

I can't wait to eat all my crisps Yeah so I got your you some chris that's someone who actually stayed in my flat about a month ago left behind because I don't really eat chris and they're the worst type of chris they're like the really cheap crappy chris and you were like they're my best flavors of chris so bring them to me so i did yeah perfect happy birthday um what have you been up to we've not podcasted since you won the final of the hundred i know i know we've been like well it's it's the big fat hundred come down isn't it you just don't want to do anything and what i have been doing is playing

50 over cricket so that's been a shock to the system has it has the body been sore yes more sore than it's been all season actually and i didn't have any soreness at all through the hundred i think obviously you only bowl 20 balls it's an hour in the field it's pretty chilled the only the only actual day that i had any sort of stiffness was going into the final naturally because we played the eliminated the day before so 50 over cricket hit hard but we something happened in the first game back where we didn't field 50 oh who did we play old trafford rained so it became a like 30 the 40 over game so it was like oh this is quite a nice transition back into 50 over cricket but since then it's been long yeah you actually had

yeah i was about to say the weather's turned hasn't it like completely turned it's now like winter coat weather yeah it's not i think we've skipped autumn haven't we it's just It's just literally flown into winter straight away. Yeah, 12 degrees. It's gone from 30 degrees to 12 degrees. Like overnight, literally, end of August, done. You had a really, really shocking road trip this weekend as well. Oh, my God.

It was the biggest shambles I have ever been involved in, ever. That's a big statement. Yeah, because I do this podcast weekly. Right, so we set off to go down to Arundel. That's where we're playing against how. Hampshire. Doesn't make sense because Arundel's in Sussex. But if you think back to last year with the regionalised set up, teams used to play in various counties around where they're from. So that's why Arundall is still associated with Hampshire. We don't know. We don't stay there, though. We stay in Guilford. So we're staying in Surrey, playing against Hampshire in Sussex. So that was our weekend. So we get to Guilford. That took us probably about six hours on Friday afternoon.

and then we've got a further hour to travel to Arundall the next morning and it's a 10.30 start so it's an early get up and an early get on the coach and everyone's a bit sleeping and a bit tired. And it's absolutely throwing it down.

It's like Armageddon weather like you just said. We get to the ground about maybe nine-ish. The game starts at half ten. It got called off at quarter past ten. We had cancelled, completely called off before the game was even due to start that was how wet the ground was

water had got under the covers which begs the question why we're playing professional cricket on a ground that can't cope with a good about a rain it wasn't like floody weather it was just a good amount of rain and we got on the coach at half past 10 to come home

and we got back at 6pm yeah you were like games off before I'd even woken up because it was a Saturday and I was like well just because I wake up late actually not because it was a Saturday just because I didn't have anything on

so I slept and then you were like but it's fine because I'll be held by half four or five and I was like you know what that's not that bad that's quite good see you later and then I'd done I'd have a massive lie-in

I'd watch two T20 games I'd been to the supermarket I put four washes on I'd had a whole day of pottery around the house cleaning and tidying before you'd even made it back to Manchester it made me laugh in that voice that you sent me telling me what you've done in that entire seven-hour coachship that I've been on,

that one of the things that you put down was that you'd made yourself some lunch because that's quite a big deal for you to have done that. I was like, no, that should just be a given. That shouldn't be part of your day today. Or you being productive as you feeding yourself. Yeah, I've been so productive today. I didn't get a meal deal. I made lunch.

Speaking of two T20s, it was finals day. It was. It was on Saturday. It's actually my favourite day in the cricketing. calendar that. It is a good one. It is a good one. It's a good one.

I think I said this to you on the day and you were like, nah. Well, you don't like working on it, do you? You find it a long day. It is a long day, yeah. Yeah, but I was like, nah, it's actually, as a fan, it is class. Yeah. Finals day is so good. Well, it's because you get there at half-past nine in the morning.

I remember getting there last year and, like, people were drinking pints at half nine in the morning. It is amazing that more people don't get kicked out of the hollies. Yeah, true, true. But cricket fans are like nice fans. Yeah, that's true. That is true. But congratulations to Somerset.

They, I mean, they're hammered Lancashire in the first game in the first semis. And then I always think that if your team gets beaten in the semi, you kind of want that the person that beats you to go on and win it. Yeah. So then you're like, oh, well, we're lost to the losers. Yeah. Lost to the winners. We're the losers.

Yeah, where the losers. Loss of the winners. But there was the big debate about that game wasn't there, Crossey and umpire Sue and whether she made the right decision or not and there was a bit of a howler. But I want to like just talk about it because the abuse she's got online

is not acceptable. Oh my God. So I purposely stayed off Twitter because I could just see exactly what was happening. And this just probably sums up where cricket's at and how far we still have. to go. Even though we think we've made so many strides, everyone immediately jumped on the fact that she made that mistake because she was a woman. I know. And it's just the most sexist,

misogynistic people that are saying these comments. And everyone just needs to go and get in the bin because she did make a mistake. It was pretty obvious. Yeah. But it's not because she's female. She's not made a mistake because she's a woman. Yeah. And that's what wound me up. Honestly, I felt so bad for her because she was getting abused, left, right and center. And she made a mistake, right? And it happens. She made a mistake because she's human, not because she's female. There was a mistake in the final. No, there was a mistake where Chris Lynn

was going for six-sixes, and got given out LBW, on field. That didn't even get spoken about. No one's abusing the umpire. No one's saying that was a shocker because it was a shocking, shocking decision to give Chris Lynn out LBW and he was so far outside the line of off stump. But not once

did you see that on social media? You saw on social media, Sue's umpiring decision because she was a woman. But whoever it was, I don't even know who the on-field umpire was that made that mistake. But say it was Michael Goff's the first name that comes to my head. Say Michael Goff made a mistake like that. No one says a male umpire has made that decision. No one.

Like that comment is never made. It is always just the umpire when it's a male umpire. But because Sue's female, everyone jumped on the fact. And it's so easy. It's pathetically easy that people are able to be sexist in that moment. So get in the bin, everyone. It happens. Yeah.

And don't abuse people online. People make mistakes. I really appreciated everybody who was standing up for it, to be honest with you. Well, there was a lot, wasn't there? There was a lot of people saying, like, you can comment on an umpiring decision without having to mention the sex of the umpire. Yeah, which is what we want.

So if you listen to this podcast and you have made a comment like that over the weekend, whether it's been to someone's face or online to sue, go and have a look at yourself because you need to have a look at yourself. Pathetic. Yeah, don't apologise. I just want you to feel bad within yourself, no, that you know, you are one of those humans.

It'd be nice to apologise, I think. Written, I want a written apology. Written apology, with tag no balls in it so we can see it. Yeah, I want you to write on a piece of paper, like you're doing lines at school. Yeah, send it in. I bet you never have to do lines at school, did you? I don't think we did that at school in general,

not that I was too good that I didn't get in trouble, but I didn't. I don't think we did that. Oh, we did. We just had detention. Yeah, detention used to be lines at school for me. What did you have to write? I will not misbehave again a million times or something like that.

It was like torture. You don't know how to spell the word misbehave. Well, that's true. That's so true. I will be good tomorrow. I've got one thing on a sticky note I want to talk to. How are you? Thank you. Thank you. I am good. I am done for this summer and I can't believe the summer's over.

It's mad. But yeah, two weeks and I fly to India. So I don't have a passport. Can't go on holiday. So I'm stuck in a house. Good, good. Good. Yeah, you had your, what do you call it? Your visa appointment, didn't you? I have to go. It's always a bit stressful when you go to India because you have to go and get you. your visa stamped in your passport. You give them your passport and you don't think you're ever going to see your passport again. But notoriously, the place in Manchester that does this doesn't have anywhere to park. No. It got your parking ticket.

I've actually had a shocking week, a couple of weeks when it comes to things like that. And you were like, are you okay? What's wrong with you? So I got a parking ticket getting my visa because I couldn't find anywhere to park and I drove around twice and it's a big loop. And I was like, I don't understand.

And there was loads of cars on the road, so I was like, well, I'll just park with all these other cars. Over-ear was the only one to get a ticket. So I don't know what I'd done wrong. I got a speeding fine going through Nossium, which is my fault because I was doing 35, so I'm in the wrong. I must have thought it was a 40. Because I don't speed.

You don't speed this is why I was like, you okay because you don't speed? Why have you got speed? Because you had to do a speed awareness course. Which was, do you know what, I learned the outcome of the speed awareness course was just go slower. I actually, I think speed awareness course is a really beneficial. I think everyone should have to do one. You reckon? Well, because I remember I did one not too long after I passed my test.

And I remember thinking that it kind of changed how I drove because they said something around. Oh, it's like the one mile an hour difference, Kilton away. Or if you do like a two-hour journey. and you do it at 70, yeah, 70 instead of 60, you get there like eight minutes faster. Yeah, it's not even worth it. Yeah, it's not worth it. It's not like you can save all that time.

So anyway, but yeah. Yeah, and then I got another parking fine for not paying the airport drop off. So it's just been a shocker of a week. And someone added it up for me. You need to slow down, take a breath. I do, I need the two weeks. And abide by the rules

because otherwise you'll be doing lines. I know, you know what, you are so right But other than that, I'm grand Good Well, the other reason I want this to check you're okay Because the one thing I do have on my sticky note Is about you And it's about a decision that you've made recently

That I had to severely question Oh no, what have I done? So about 12 weeks ago 12 weeks I think it was about 12 weeks You can give people the timeline You hurt your cough when you went running Oh, yeah, it was the 21st of July.

I must have torn my calf because it's still not right. So you did it. It felt quite bad. I remember on your Instagram story, you had Emily Windsor looking at it. So you weren't, you were in a lot of pain and you couldn't do any exercise and it was quite stressful. How many weeks later was it that you decided to give it a go to run on your calf again? Five and a half. Okay.

So you left it five and a half. half weeks without doing anything on it. And do you want to tell everyone what you decided to go and do? 10K. You decided you're going to do a 10K. So the first run to do the 10K was a 7K run. You don't run for 7K. Even in your fittest time of your life,

you did not run 7K continuously. And you did it checking out your calf. Yeah, yeah, I did. And lo and behold, I fell down a bit of pavement. and felt like I'd been shot. It turns out I didn't fall down a bit of pavement. My calf went again. Who'd have thought it?

I'm mind-blown. So this is something. If I was talking to someone who'd never played professional sport, who'd never spoke to physios before in their life, who'd never had to nurse injuries, I'd understand it. But you were all those things. And you still went out and tested your calf

by doing a 7K run. Yeah. Yeah, I did do that. I did do that. So that was two and a half weeks ago So I went out yesterday And you were like, for the love of God, just walk Just walk, just walk, just walk and build it up

Just walk, just walk, all right? So I went out for a walk And I got like a kilometre in I was like, I'm bored, so I ran But then I was like, be sensible In the back of my head, you were going, just walk So I was like, okay, be sensible, be sensible. So I did two songs off

one song on and that is my return to fitness and I ran four four songs so I only ran for 12 minutes out of my 50 minute walk right that's good also I forgot to tell everyone in between the five and a half weeks of the injury happening you didn't see a physio you didn't once do any rehab on your calf um you probably drank every single day of the hundred and didn't eat very nutritious food so there was not one bit of that run that was going to be a success not one bit Do you know what? I've never been injured. Genuinely, I thought I was injured plenty of times,

but never injured. And I just thought it'd be all right. It turns out when you actually tear something, it's not all right. And I understand when people do a cough now, why they keep doing them. That's it. I've got an old lady injury.

Yeah. You, yeah. Might get you some physio for your birthday. No, I don't need it now. I ran yesterday. No, but see, now you can't just go to do a 7K. you've got to build it up again. No, no, no.

My return to fitness, I think I'll have to do one song on one song off and then two songs on one song off. Right. Okay, just, yeah, good. But not today in a couple of days. Do you know what? I'm so sick of doing nothing and I was like, oh my God. And then you were like, well, why don't you go to go to the gym?

I was like, because that's £15 every time I want to go sit on a bike. But you're going to be spending £30 on your physio appointment. Yeah, true. and also what about all these times that you've been able-bodied and you've just not wanted to run or go to the gym ever

and now you're injured you want to go running what's that about? I know I know well I really got into it before I popped the cough didn't I?

Yeah really is a strong word there Yeah I was going to ice He got running again Basically my clothes didn't fit so I started moving before we move on to our emails we are in a semi-final

yes tomorrow like it should what a season the red rose is having really yeah we've done well obviously won the FA Cup came fourth in the Vitality Blast so we just missed out on a day at finals day there because only three in the women's team go into finals day. And we sat third.

That was the other thing about this, Arundel trip. It wasn't a must-win game for us. It wasn't even necessarily a must-play game because we knew he'd qualified. But it did still affect who finished first, second, third because those we could have, Blaze needed to win, we needed to win, and we could have overtaken Hampshire. And there was a world where if Blaze had won even better

than they had done, Hampshire would have finished second with the home semi-final, which would have meant that we were now then travelling back to Hampshire for our semi-finals. So it all was even more of a shambles. But imagine if that was a must-witting game for us. And we turned up and it was called off at quarter past ten. It's been fuming. Oh my God, just probably not good enough. So you are in Nottingham?

We're in Trent Bridge tomorrow, Tuesday. So that's our semi-final, which is good because Wednesday's forecast looks shocking again. but tomorrow looks okay. Then if we win that, we go to Hampshire for the final on Sunday, so that's at the utility regardless of who gets through.

Yeah, it's okay, okay. So good luck, thanks. Let's win. Yeah, come on the girls. Right, we've got a massive, bold letters at the top of this document. You can email us on. Noblespodcast at BBC.co.com.

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Start your message or text with no balls. All one word. And remember, please put your name and your email on the message too. Come on, then. Who are going upstairs with? I think we should just go upstairs with Sue and give her a bit of love.

I think we should. I was going to suggest, Sue. Yeah, come on, Sue. We're going for a ride. Hello. Kate and Alex, I'm a one-time listener but first-time email it. I wanted to ask you what your thoughts are on the schedule in the Women's T20 Blast Finals Day next year.

It's being held on Friday the 17th of July, 26, at the Kear Oval. I attended the event this year on Sunday the 27th of July and I enjoyed it and was looking forward to going again next year, especially with the new arrangement of two semifinals and a final to mirror the men's event. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend because I work in a state primary school and our summer holidays don't start till the following week.

We were told last year that the attendance, which was over 5,000, was a record for domestic T20 women's fixtures in England. There were a lot of children, including lots of girls at the Kear Oval, which can only be a good thing, so I can't understand why this event has been scheduled for a weekday next year and not a weekend. I'd be interested to know your thoughts. Regards Sarah Taylor. Not the Sarah Taylor, but I do play cricket.

Sarah Taylor also works in a school, so... She does, so she will be able to be able to. to attend? Yeah, a little bit disappointing, actually, isn't it? If I'm going to be, I'm going to be completely, well, I can't be completely honest. I think it's a bit disappointing because if it was in the school holidays, you sort of understand and you can be like, okay, that's fine. Look, last year was such a success.

Why is it not on Sunday again? If the men's semi-finals day, if the men's finals day has to be on Saturday at Edgebaston, which is fine, it's always been like that, that can stay there. Why can it not just be Sunday then? or the week before or the week after it can't be the week before because we run the tournament alongside each other I'm also really disappointed with this

I think it's a bit of a step backwards to be honest and I just think the people that make these decisions when they sit around the room and make them ask yourself the question would we do this for the men's game and the answer is always always no they would never ever ever put the men's finals day on a Friday so why do they do it for the women

a working week the only way they're going to get a record crowd now he's giving free tickets to schools. And that's the only... You've got the chance of the final being a sellout, but that first semi-final, whoever's made it there, it just...

It's just a bit disrespectful, I think. Yeah, I agree. You've worked hard in a great tournament to get to that final and you want it to be an occasion and sadly it's not going to be. No, no, that first game's going to be like COVID, unfortunately. Hi, Alex and Kate.

I just started a new job where I'm allowed to wear my headphones while carrying out my duties. So today I randomly scrolled through the no-buzz list and randomly pressed play. It was the podcast just before the ODI series started in South Africa last year and Seren Smell had been called into the squad. You mentioned she had to reschedule her driving test. I was just wondering if she ever got her license.

All the best, you're both awesome Molly from Australia. Yes, so a little update. Serum passed her test probably about a month ago. So congratulations, Seren. Yes. Finally. Also, so did Mahika Gore. So it's really quite worrying that those two are on the road now.

So everyone around Manchester area, just be careful. Be vigilant thereabout. The thought of Meeks being crumpled into a car. Yeah, with her knees up to her eyes. I can just imagine her driving like a Fiat 500 being like six foot four. No, actually, she's not driving a Fiat 500. It's Mahika Gore. probably got some whip.

No, I don't think, I think she wanted a golf polo, yeah, Polo Volkswagen Polo to start with. Cute, cute. I don't know what they got, I'll ask them. Sarah was like, I need to go car shopping. I was like, oh my God. Oh, my God. All these little kids are growing up. Oh, my God.

Go on, Chrissy. Right, Priya is emailed and she only wants to speak to Kate on this one, so sorry, Alex, take a back seat. Hi, Kate. I've been following Freddie Flintoff's cricket program since it started a few years ago, and it looks like such a great opportunity. What was it like being part of it? I saw that for this series there are multiple locations and the one that you are participating in runs in Manchester.

I was wondering if you and the team have any plans to expand the locations where you will be filming and maybe perhaps consider Leeds in the future. Leeds is much closer for me and it would mean a lot to be able to join and improve my cricket under your coaching. It would be exciting since the Northern Supercharges are based there too. Thank you so much for your time

and I really appreciate everything you're doing to grow the game. Best regards, Priya. Okay, Crossy, first and foremost, I have to sincerely apologise. I forgot it and have been, it's started. It's been on. We've had two episodes. The second episode came on yesterday. Have you been watching?

Yeah, no, I watched them all on the, where do we? We came back from Beck and I'm and me and Phoebe G watch basically the whole series on the coach on the way home. Oh my God, how good is it? It's been really good, actually. Do you know what I've loved about it? Obviously, I was with the girls in Blackpool, I was very quite heavily involved in that. And I did a few episodes in the Manchester location.

But there was so much that I just didn't know what happened because I'm not part of the interviews that happen outside the cricket. And I don't see the girls go into the schools and do the coaching. So there's loads that I kind of missed out on. So I'm still watching it as a fan as well. So it's been really, really, really nice seeing how they've pieced it all together. And there's obviously so much that got filmed that has missed out as well. Like so many amazing moments that they probably could make another series with,

the outtakes if you want so um it was great it was fun to be a part of um but everyone asked me like is fred the same or is it like his tv personality comes out because he's doing tv but i genuinely hand on heart can say that everything that you see is exactly what he's like well yeah he's just fred he's just fred he's just brilliant with the kids like the difference when he's there versus when he's not there is polar so like the kids just behave so much more when he's around. And I reckon the girls behaved more when you were there because it's like, oh my God, Kate Cross is here. No, they had no idea who I was because he's not seeing cricket. They didn't know. There was a few of the girls who have played cricket that knew that I was

playing because they were talking about, it kind of over lacked with the Island series when I went over. So I remember turning up one day and they were all stood around and they were like, congratulations, you're going to be England captain. It was so sweet. So, so sweet. But then, yeah, the other girls just didn't really know. I was trying to get them to go to a Superchargers game, actually, because I thought if they could see visually what it looks like and what you could aspire to, that would be pretty cool. But, yeah, Hoggy did used to say that, like,

when Fred was there, it made such a difference because they just all the kids behaved so much more. The best bit is, like, I can see why my mum fancies Freddy Flint off. Yeah, and one of the girls, like, why? Yeah, why? Yeah, why, really? So, Priya, in answer to your questions, I have no saying anything that happens on this show.

It's not my show. Freddie loves a challenge. Maybe he will want to expand it. I think he probably realised he bit off a bit more than he could chew in this series doing three teams, but maybe Leeds will be on his agenda. I don't know. It's a rubbish way of answering that question, really.

We shall see. Yeah. Hello. Oh, Alex and Crossie, I suppose I have to say, long-time listener, first-time emailer, as it seems to be a thing. It is a thing, isn't it? It is a thing, yeah. I wanted to email to say, I really appreciate Crossy's openness in the selection podcast. The emotion really came through, and you had me crying in the car on the way home.

I was missed on an international selection for a four-yearly event, not the Olympics, the other one. Where the policy was, top five were eligible for five places on the plane. I was mathematically third and realistically second in the country. It hurts to this day, but I have recovered both mentally and financially, amateur sport. I think it's really inspiring to hear someone talk about the sad times as well as the good times. The first time I have heard someone talk about non-selection since mine over 10 years ago and I think I would have recovered much faster if the emotions around it were normalized, as you did say. Thanks for your podcast as always, Another Alex.

Oh, thank you, Another Alex. that's a really lovely email and that sounds again just savage doesn't it like how are you mathematically third and second in your country and still miss out don't miss out

and the Winter Olympics I think that's again like when I get really sad about this still because obviously I'm still working through what's going on but it's like I've played every one day game between the last World Cup

and this World Cup and I've missed out on like almost on the bonus that you do to get the team qualified. So that's like it must be so much worse for the Olympic athletes as well. And I always think if an Olympic athlete was to get an injury just before that, it must be absolutely devastating. Like I don't know how you recover from that. But it is.

It's just it's the price you pay. It's the price you pay to be involved in professional sport. But it doesn't make it any easier. Well, sorry, Alex, to hear what you went through. I'm glad you feeling recovered from it now. And maybe in 10 years time, I'll have recovered from this. So we'll do another...

If you're not recovered from this in 10 years, yeah, there'll be another episode, the comeback episode. Yeah, we'll do an episode then. We've also had an email from someone who didn't put their name and it just... Oh no, no, it was a text because it starts with no balls. Please, please, please do the Sprite Burp Challenge.

I think it's very nobles. Love the pods so much. Do you know why it is very, very no balls? The Sprite Burp Challenge or the Fizzy Pop Challenge. We did it. on a team bus once on the way back from somewhere is when I was captain

and I got two of the youngsters to do it and they were in a lot of pain with their bellies so it would be funny though I do kind of want to do it. We'll see we'll chat it through yeah

and for the first time it's us too that are a bit like oh I'm not sure and our producers like you should definitely do this yeah and we're like oh man it should be embarrassing and if you do big birth on the internet Yeah. What's been making a noise this entire time? Sounds like someone's banging on a bin or something.

Oh, goshy, that's my pigeon protectors. Oh, is that what that is? That's a horrible noise. I know, right. I can't even turn you around to show you. Do you remember the pigeon protectors? I was like, right. They have been banging all night because of the wind.

and I reckon my neighbours must hate me and if I never, ever, ever sleep again I'll have slept better than I did last night because I've been up all night because they've just been going ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh, at least you've got no pigeons in there, they make no more noise.

That, what's that? Just don't you. Just don't you, the wind blows and they hit the... Awful. All night, crossy, all night. You need some headphones, Al, you need some ear protectors. My neighbours are going to be putting letters through my letter box. At least they look good.

Nat. What do pigeons do in the winter? Are they busy? Because if not, you could take them down for the winter. I think that's when they come and hibernate, isn't it? Do they hibernate? I don't think pigeons hibernate, do they? I don't know.

I could take them down for the winter. I'm going to have to do something because I can't have them keep chiming. I have got those, like, spikes. I maybe put them up when I'm away. In winter, pigeons seek shelter. They fluff up their feathers to insulate themselves and they change their foraging habits to focus on high-calorie food sources like seeds and berries.

So it's like, having it? Oh, they also took their heads and feet for warmth. That's cute. It's not cute. I've got bird poo everywhere. They seek shelter. Yeah, that's my balcony. Right, well, good luck with that.

Oh, it's a bad noise at all. Where is I been doing it the whole time? The whole time. It's like, you know, like when people are like, oh, you don't even hear the traffic once you live here a while. Yeah. No, I can hear that. Yeah.

Well, annoying in it. Right, everyone, see you soon. Bye!