Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - End of the English cricket season and Ebony joins for a sing-song!

Episode Date: September 23, 2023

Cricketers Kate Cross and Alex Hartley talk through their week and reflect on what has been a memorable English summer. There's also a special musical interlude from a TMS friend!

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It is actually so that your family can all listen. Your kids can listen. But we will say... Sugar. That's not a really bad one. Cross comes in round the wicket Boulder, Boulder, leaving a ball alone, Litchfield. I think it's the wobble ball

and it just nips back, it jags back, it's the nipbacker. That is a beauty from Kate Cross, an absolute seed. That is a beauty from Cross. Hello, welcome back to know Bulls, a bigger podcast with me, Kate Cross. And you, Alex Hartley, how are you doing?

You look like you're in some sort of own fashion shoot. What's going on? Well, I am currently hair and makeup done because I'm at the cricket doing the TV highlights with Ebony. Bit of context. You are at the England Island Second ODI at Trent Bridge. So whenever this goes out, work your way back from there. That's what day it is today.

Exactly. So I'll just watch the cricket talk to you, half like get ready to commentate, half do the podcast. It could be a shambles. My hair, I still don't like it. Oh, right, okay, yeah. I was talking to someone the other. In fact, I told you who I was talking to.

I went to our hairdresser because I got my hair done yesterday. And he's like, how's Alex getting on? I was like, oh, she's loved all the hair off. And he's like, what? I was like, I know. I think I've dubbed her in. So, yeah, Gaz is a bit angry at you. Sorry about that.

Because I didn't go to Gaz. Yeah. But I did say you've been on the road loads and you had, like, you just had to stuff in the air. Well, I don't know why you had to stuff it to get all that hair off. But anyway, yeah, so sorry, you're in trouble. Did you show him a picture for what it looks like? No, but I did say it suits you. I think it's definitely grown on me. So, and it's growing. Like, it's not as sure as it was, which is a positive. But it's hardly grown, has it? Yeah. Do you know what it told me? He told me your hair only grows half an inch every

month. So you only get six inches every year. Um, anyway, how are you? Yeah, I'm not too. bad things. I've, um, try and work out when we last chatted and it would have been before the last ODI, wouldn't it? So since then, we've finished the season. We've won an ODI series. I've been really quite poorly and then I'm going on holiday. So... And what have you got your finger? Oh, it's just a hair bubble. Oh, I was like, why has she got a massive ring on? No, it's because it's a new hair bubble and when I wear it on my wrist at night, it like digs in gives me like bruises, so it's not really that important for the podcast. No, it's not true.

So, oh, yeah, I'm good. I forgot about me, yeah, I'm good, I'm good, thank you, I'm very good. I've spent a couple of days in the peak district, recharging the old batteries, which has been nice. Really, I'm really rich of you to ask me what's on my finger on, and you've got a fluorescent yellow ring on. What is that? It's half grey, half yellow.

Yeah, anyway. I'm going. But no, I'm good. I've got two games to go. And then I fly out to India on like the four. So I have a few days at home as well. So I'm flying. Yeah, but we've got a great couple of days when you're at home, haven't we? Yeah. Yeah, we'd have. I can't drink at the length of season day, but that's fine. That's fine. Right, you finished the LDI series. I can't even remember what happened. Well, let's talk about that a little bit because the last time we did talk we had mahika on the pot we'd played we'd not played we get rained off first odi i don't know second odi i got rained off we played the first one where did we god i don't even remember

chestily street chestily straight right so we won in durham we got rained off at northans and then we won at leicester in the final yes okay um so yeah um we were we're back to be in a decent team now everyone was forwarding us again. Back to being one of the better teams. Right. I can't even remember. Oh, yeah, because we were talking about the fact that it wasn't okay to play a young team in the T-20s, but it was the ODIs, but you won the ODIs. Did you enjoy it? Are you glad it's done?

I was really, really quite run down by the end of it, quite poorly, quite like, not chest infection, but you know when your body's just like, you really need a little rest of it. so yeah it was a I wouldn't say I didn't enjoy it but it wasn't my most enjoyable part of the summer I put it that way well you played in ashes it's not going to be the most enjoyable part yeah yeah there is always that

and I wonder obviously following the ashes was always going to be great and then the back end of the season you know playing in front of like a thousand people was always probably going to be the quieter part of the season but I do have something on my sticking out that I want to talk about because something happened in one of our games that I've never seen before.

Well, let's talk about it because I was quite mind-blown actually that our game stopped because someone in the crowd proposed to their girlfriend. Yeah, it was really strange. I don't know how I feel about

a public proposal and not not public for one, but she said yes. Well, she accepted the ring I didn't hear her yet but the whole thing was just mad because our game stopped for it

the whole thing was being conducted by Stephen Finn and produced by Sky the guy who proposed didn't actually ask the lady to marry him and then he put the ring on the wrong finger on the wrong hand yeah he

he got down on one knee pure panicked so what he'd done is he messaged Northam saying I look this ground I'm coming to what I should agree and I propose to my missus. They said, yeah, sure. They coordinated with Sky and the BBC

because I was going to be there and doing it as well, but we missed it. Good for me. So he got down on one knee. He ran out of words. Stephen McVig was like... Sorry, but how do you run out of words when you don't say any words?

Yeah, well, yeah, that is true. I think he just panicked. So then he put the ring on the middle finger on the right hand. the, what's that one called? Index. The index finger on your right hand. And then the ring finger, but on the right hand.

So it was just an athlete shambles. It was a shambles, but congratulations to the happy couple. I always feel that public proposals, you'd probably have to say yes to. So we don't actually know if that went through in the end. Not. If I've always said, my partner proposes publicly, it's a firm now. Yeah, it's, well, I feel like there's the person being proposed to you. really say no to it because it's embarrassing for your partner and you don't

even publicly embarrass your partner even though they're probably publicly embarrassing themselves anyway yeah but then they always know that you you don't want a public well mine would that you don't want a public announcement so we are being judgey here and I do feel like she might have really wanted and we've got to presume that if you're proposing in public you're confident it's going to be the yes yeah yeah very true very true I think if you're proposing, you've got to be confidence in CES anyway. Yeah, that is true. Yeah.

Anyway, that was one of the highlights of the series for me. Loved it. But, like, Charlie Dean's just waiting to have a little bowl, and she's like, do I go? Do I not go? Sue's holding things up. Like, it was, she's all very strange. Yeah, it was good.

But that was the only thing I admire sticking out, to be honest, yeah? Right. Well, we've got a... I mean, we had a really nice chat with Anna and Sue, didn't we? And Sue's got some news this week. So that should be on our sticky notes. Big dog Sue. Yeah.

How good she is umpiring or being the first female in England to umpire men's first class game? Yeah. She's the, she's been a real trailblazer for the umpires, actually, hasn't she? Because Sue's like setting the standard and then everyone's trying to follow that. Yeah, exactly. And now like, Anna's like following in her footsteps in the same shoes. Well, cute. Literally in the same shoes.

Literally in the same shoes. So we had a nice chat with them. They brought out the cricket balls at Leicester, which was ironic because that was the game that I wasn't picking the balls in because I wasn't playing. And we were rain delayed, weren't we? This is why we're having a chat with them.

Yeah. The balls have just been so crap out. I can't even tell you. Whatever's going on with them this year, like we're getting them and the quarter seems already split. And there's like marks on the ball. And like the balls are precious anyway.

You want to try and pick the best ball that you can. and then they're just turning up and, like, you've got one to pick from, basically. Been crap. I mean, that's really, I like it. And then they came out and so we've got some other ones and they were still all rubbish. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with them.

It's not really probably a chat for the podcast, but anyway, that's what we were having a chat with Anna and Sue about. They had a cute little picture. Yeah, and then we said that we'd get them both on, didn't we? Yes, we need to do that. We do need to do that. We do that. We also recorded an episode with Agu is like seven weeks ago.

We not put that out, so we'll put that out as well. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Have we got anything else on your stick, you know? Yeah, I've got two more things. The ECB Ashes video, I want to talk about that. Yeah. Everyone needs to go watch it. Yeah. I think I agree.

Yeah. Well, I mess with you and I was like, you need to watch it. I've just watched it back. And I was like crying again, all over again. I was like, it can't be that good. I was like, well, I'll give it a go. And honestly, like, it was one of those where every time went to text someone back, I paused it to make sure I watched every single second of it

and it was put together brilliantly and it was like one of those where you got that actually happened I think I don't remember it being as good as it was but I knew it was good, don't get me wrong but I do feel like I watched it back

and I was like wow we actually were so down and out to get to a point where I would nearly win the ashes was amazing crossing you were losing six mil yeah we were really far behind on that score rate but I love that in the moment you're like know it's fine, it's concentrate on ourselves

because you just shown it works well what I thought was really good was you got little snippets of the dressing rooms after we'd won or lost or whatever it might have been and I feel like that's where those little videos and documentaries are really important because it doesn't just show the highlights of series like that and obviously up until we played at the Oval

we didn't really have any high well, we had highlights individually in the test match and stuff, but as a team, a 6-0 down. And you hear how Louis's talking to us and how he's really encouraging us to play the type of cricket we want to play. Isn't it mad? Right, you need a coach to tell you that?

Well, I think you don't, you shouldn't need a coach, but it's led by the coach. Culture is led by a head coach always. But I just, I thought, I was watching it. I was like, wow. I lived this, I breathe this, I found this interesting, how most other people feel watching this video. I think you would feel it and enjoy it a lot more than your average show.

Like, they'd be like, wow, what a series that was. But because it brought back all your emotions, you'd have been like, Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, so everyone needs to go and watch that. So shout out to Emarsh and Brandon, who produced that. Emarsh is our content creator in the group. and like she would she would be like really sorry but can we just borrow you for an interview

and you'd be like oh yeah no worries that worries and then you see the final product and you're like but I'm so glad that she like made us do all this because it looked great yeah it could have been two hours long though couldn't it oh could have been so much longer couldn't it oh so good last thing it's quite crickety but it feels app that we talk about it seems that you're at the odys the harry brook jason roy sitch It happened in the last World Cup, didn't it, with David Willey? Like, it does happen. It's part of it.

And Jay Roy, like, is an opening batter. He's had his back spasmus. He's not been able to play the New Zealand series. Harry Brook, they see it's more versatile and just the sort of player you needed a World Cup. Yeah. I completely agree with it. Like, I was quite shocked that he was out. He wasn't picked in the original preliminary squad that went out.

But again, I've got a little gripe here, and I feel like I've got a gripe with the media at the minute, being part of the media ourselves with this podcast. But what winds me up about situations like this is Harry Brooks not picked in the preliminary squad and everyone boots off. He then gets put into the New Zealand series and doesn't do as well as he could do. Yeah.

He's played like, what, five ODIs at this point for England, so he's not got a great database to pick from in terms of like his stats other than in first class cricket. Then everyone says he's not taking his chance. So all the people who were saying two weeks prior that he should be in the World Cup squad then says he's not taking his opportunity even though they wanted him in without that opportunity in the first place.

Why are people so annoying? Do you know what it is, crossy? Headlines make stories which give people jobs and they have to create something from somewhere and speaking of headlines actually and I've got completely off topic but I woke up this morning with an England cricketer's mum in my DMs

oh yeah we need to chat about that that I woke up to your message being like this is random so I'm not going to reveal the cricketer because I think it'll be funny and I want everyone on the podcast to guess who it is but a message said cricketer I need to reply to their mum

and I replied saying is it your mum well cute message He said, for sake, Mom, she loves you. She always says she loves you on the commentary. She always says it. I said, good job, I always says nice things about you. They said, let's keep it this way. So the mum's message was,

it's been fab seeing you do these posts. I'm so-and-so's old mother, and I'm a super keen hiker. Great way for you all to have a break. It's so cute. So cute. I can't wait to go hiking with England. I think from now on we should refer to him as so-and-so.

So-and-so, yeah. He's just so-and-so to us. So-and-so. And everyone on the podcast has got to work out who so-and-so is. Who is so-and-so? Who is so-and-so? Who is so-and-so? So their mum likes hiking. She's on Instagram.

She's a keen listener to cricket, obviously. You probably would be a few sons playing for England. And she likes, like, glided into my D-Ns. I'm going to get her back. I think this calls for a hike with you and so-and-so's mum. I do. I'm going to reply being like, let me know if you have a fancy a hike. Yeah.

That was it for my sticky note. The only other thing that I had, which I don't really think you've talked about now, was just I've just wrote down, Glenn Phillips winds me up. Right. Why? I think it's, I think, I've been trying to work out why. It might not be really good podcast material, but I think my issue with him is that he's either stood still or he's sprinting and he doesn't have an in-between he's just he's too keen in my

opinion he's too he's too fast for a start no one should be that fast but he's just a bit too keen like just jog just have a jog what you mean like on the cricket field well i don't know him off it i've only ever seen him on it i don't see him out of about in this your annoyance is an international athlete trying too hard because yeah i don't know if it is for you. I don't know if it is that he's trying too hard. What annoys me is that I've never seen him jog. Okay.

Can Glenn Phillips jog is my question, I think? All I know he's is a nice man. I don't, yeah, I'm not denying that. I'm not saying he's not. But he winds me up. And do you know what else? He reminds me of. It reminds me of a spider,

because that's how spiders move. They're either still and not doing anything, or they're sprinting around your room and you can't find them. And I think that's where my, unease with him comes from. Right, well, I've never noticed, but I'm going to keep an eye out during the World Cup. Yeah, watch it. You don't jog. You will have to see Glenn Phillips jog.

No, probably not. Anyway, that's it for my sticking nose. I feel like I've got, this guy counselling this. I've got a lot of my chest today. Do you feel better? I think I do, actually, yeah. Yeah. Who do you want to go upstairs with today? It's got to be Sue, hasn't it? We can't.

I mean, she's headline news this week. Poor Sue is taking a pounding. Well, it's the end of the season and she's going to have a little rest to you upset when we get her on and actually go upstairs with her again. Yeah, okay. Right, okay, well we'll go upstairs with Sue.

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I can't go away from Bristol, really. No. What a day. And what a day. to say it started out so crap, like what a day that was in the end. Yeah, I mean, that was an unbelievable moment, wasn't it? Like, just seeing you, like, come out to bat and you think of, right, my mindset was like, of all the times you've failed, you would do some runs, and it's like, can you do it in that moment?

Do you some runs? You would choose some runs. Your number 10 to do some runs. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, I know she can. do it but can you do it under pressure and then when you hit that a fall down the ground I was like today's the day she's it on she is on my favorite bit in the season I've got so many from from Bristol to watching the Aussies not lift the ashes and enjoy it for a start

and like they were like yay we've retained the ashes um with a big fat drawn underneath on the poster yeah to Stuart broad you know dream finish to you beat in Australia in an ODI series the first time they've lost in over 10 years but for me

it's still the fact the Aussie men are going on about the moral ashes I think we've really got them yeah and did you see Ben Stoke came out

being like I kind of put the ashes to bed once it was done it feels like our opposition haven't really done that and I love

little gripes like that I'm here for it me too and I just really really enjoyed it and I was like you know what that fact

that they're still going on about it is The reason why it's also funny. We've got fame in the box. Who's in? Everybody in for Brent NBE. She walked in, slammed the door and walked out.

Brilliant. Sea Wabs. What's your favourite part about cricket? God. Probably the end of the season. No. I think it's probably that

I've got two and they're a bit different but one of them is probably the highs that it gives me like I don't think in any other job I'm going to go into after this I'm going to get the adrenaline and the

like the satisfaction levels that I get from cricket because when you have a good day like Bristol is a good example of that everything that you've ever put into cricket and all those hours and all those tears and all that the injuries and blood and sweat

and miles driven up the motorway or make sense in that tiny little moment. And Heather summed it up actually in the interview that me and her did afterwards. She said, like, I just want to bottle this up and have it forever. And I feel like that's what cricket can give you. And that's why you go back to it, because you know you're always potentially like one game away from feeling like that. But there's a lot of crap that goes in between it.

Yeah. And then the second thing, I think, is the friendships that you make through it, because I'm obviously not saying that people don't make friends in other workspaces but you're not going to get like the cultural differences that you get. The intimacy. Yeah, and like the people that you meet through it

are also like-minded and I think that's something that will last forever as well. It's not like once you finish cricket, that's it. Like you're going to stay in touch with those people for the rest of you like. My friendships as well. And like, I guess the friendships, the travel, the competitiveness, the wanting to get better, like everything, the fact is played in the warmth 90% of the time. Yeah, except now, we're talking about this yesterday, weren't we?

Like, this Island series for those boys, great that people are making the debuts, but it's cold. I've not been, I've not been outside today, actually, I need to, well, I work up at 11 a.m., so that's good start. I can't leave you. You woke up at 11-10,000 steps before then. Would you microwave or oven when cooking a jacket potato slash wood? Oh, prod it? Microw it, then oven it. I completely agree with you for probably one of the first times in our lives.

But you've got to do four minutes on each side in the microwave and then whack it in the oven 30 minutes. And then for the last five minutes in the oven, open the tin foil, and it will be get crispy on the outside. Or microwave air fryer. Not an air fryer, so I can't comment on that, but I have heard how good they are. Have you ever said how you hot friends met?

Are we the hot friends? I hope so. We met when we weren't hot by any stretch of the imagination. We met when you looked like Rod Stewart and I looked like Stig of the Dump. And we played cricket together for Lancashire in the under 15s. Yeah, I want to say 15s. You'd have been 14.

I'd have been 13, yeah, 13. And you'd have been 11, I think. So yeah, that was way back when, wasn't it? So that's like nearly 20 years ago. Look at you. Oh, gosh. Do you use an electric or a manual toothbrush? I've got both.

I haven't got bald. So I'd, um, I'd just come back in. Hi, Ebbs. Hey, Mae, where are you? I'm just at home, mate. What about you? I'm at the cricket. Oh, you're at the cricket here.

We're in the podcast, this is great. Oh, are you? How are you? This is going live? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Hello. It's good.

Please do you not swear. No, you just swear. Henry's in the editing. It'll beep it out. Oh, you'll cut this out. Are you well, Ebs? I'm right. We've been droning.

Been droning. Did you see? Is that when you're talking on air? No, we took drones. to the peak district, the camera, the flying drones. Yeah, did you see it? Yeah, I saw a lot of Instagram footage about it, yeah. Did you see Henry crashed my drone?

I saw you with a drone in between Henry's legs, which feels like a different kind of, I'm going to find that somewhere else. No, I'll send you the link. Henry smashed it, but it was fun. But anyway, how's your podcast? What are you on? Yeah, well, we've got a serious question for you, Epps. Do you have an electric or a manual toothbrush? Electric all the way.

That's why she got pearly white. Yeah, he's got great to. Yeah, but I don't know. Can you do anything but electric toothbrush? I've got bell. It's too much work as well, isn't it? It's hold it there, don't you? Like, you go zzz.

But hopefully that helps your show. Yeah, we're tapping the big questions today. So, yeah, before you leave, what are you singing first? And I will always love you. All right, I'm out. Made in, thanks for that end. That'll make it. Crossy, serious question now.

It's the Rachel Hayho Flint final tomorrow. Yes, it is. The Blaze versus the Vipers. Who's winning and why is it not the Vipers? Yeah. I think it's going to be a very good game because they are the two best teams in the tournament this year, in my opinion.

I would love to see the Blaze win it. purely because they're a new team, they've had some success this year, they've probably been the best team, haven't they? Yeah. So I'd like the place to win it, but if the Vipers win it, good on them. They've also had a great season. If Alice didn't work for the BBC, what would you do with your retirement? If I didn't work for the BBC, I wouldn't have retired from cricket.

That'd still be a cricket player. You'd still be playing, still be turning it. Well, you'd probably still be running the drinks for Thunder. Yeah, exactly. God, what a life. Do you know what I don't like about in Scout question is you don't get anyone telling us how good we are? Yeah, we do. No, but it's not, you know what I mean? You don't get the spiel where everyone's like, you said, before you do this question, before you do this question.

Hi, guys, it's so great to listen to you every week. Crossy, you're amazing. You've got lovely hair. I heard you had it done yesterday. I love you so much. My question is, have you got any pre-game superstitions? Yeah. If I play well in a kit

I have to wear every item of that kit in the next game And then if you don't do well You're like oh it's because I changed my GPS bra I wore the one with the belcro Not with the sticky, yeah It's not because I trained badly Or I went out drinking or anything like that

It's because I'm not wearing the same underpants Yeah Cricket is a word like that I'm other than like pre-game routines Like how I warm up and you know the actual physical side of it if we aren't doing well or if I feel like I need an extra boost

I've started taking the pig the lucky pig out of my back and putting it somewhere in my spot so that I can see it nice nice yeah and it's actually it is working I did it at Lords last year and I got the fourth

why didn't you do it during the T20 series I think I've lost the pig I don't know where it is. It must have stopped working because I don't, yeah. You left it somewhere. It must be, I don't know where it is, yeah. Right, few more. Keeney.

So, his name's spelled K-E-A-N-E, so Keeney. Keeney, easy. I wonder if this is Glenn Phillips in disguise. So he says, Love the Pod, genuinely look forward to every new episode. There you got, any tips for starting university? Oh, you didn't, oh, you did do any, didn't you? You did uni to pursue cricket.

Yeah, you're shaking your head, but you did. My tips would just be get stuck in. Like, you meet people at uni that you wouldn't meet anywhere else in life. And obviously you get forced into accommodation where you, like, you know, you do meet people and you're forced to live with them. But just go and say yes, doing things and try and turn up to your lectures because I didn't do that. I think like you said throw yourself into it but also remember everyone is feeling as nervous as you are

so just be that person that goes and says hi or like even if you're not going out for a drink go out for a soft drink and make the effort to be sociable because you and your friends are quite often then your friends for life yeah I remember my first night out with my hallmate

so the kids the people I was living with wasn't my bad kids we I missed the first first one and we had a Facebook group chat this is how long ago it was it was all on Facebook and then I joined the next day I've been on holiday so I joined the next day and what we did at 3 a.m was cooked crisp packet and if you put a crisp packet in the oven it becomes miniature so then we had like miniature walkers bags that we put on our notice board and that was like how we bonded wow yeah you really did live a life yeah we knew we knew how to party

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Wow. You know, this year is the first year I've realised how young 18-year-olds are and I don't know if it's because I finally hit 30 crossy. I don't know if you knew. But I was walking through Nottingham yesterday and all the uni students are around and they look so young.

They do, don't they? Well, we're getting older, that's the problem. Yeah. They're not getting younger, we're getting older. I've got one more serious question, which is probably quite a good one. But do husbands and wives get to go along on 12? abroad with you.

They do indeed. Are you answering this on me? I was just going to say they didn't used to. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But you can. So, like, they've always been able to, as in, they have to pay for their own flights accommodation,

but the ECB very kindly pay for one family member a year to go on at all. So there's some rule somewhere. I don't know it, but if we're away or out of our homes for more than 90 days of the year then it gets paid for by the ECB something like that or maybe if the tour is longer than 60 days I can't remember this is a crap bit of information

because I don't know it properly but there is something there that obviously you need your family members people with kids and etc you want your family around you to feel the best version of yourself so that you can then go and perform the best for England Speaking of the ECB, Crossey, we never touched base on it last time, but equal match fees, wait a whole.

We did talk about it. Oh, did we? Yeah. Oh, say it again, whereho? Wayho, yeah. Yeah, it was one of the ICC's first recommendations for the ECB was to equal the match fee. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, Mahika Gore, going back to school this week, with a lot of tuck shop money in a pocket.

So loaded. How good was Meeks, by the way So good So good And you know what? I'm really annoyed at us Because I didn't ask her Maybe we'll have to just ask her in person

But we didn't ask her like what it felt like for her To step away from the UAE And know that she was never going to represent that team again And the people that got to where she'd got to So it would have a great question But yeah So we're going to have a little break, aren't we? But we do have the Aga's episode that can go out next week

Then we're both heading out to India so we can do some live stuff from the World Cup. Yes. So we might have a, you know, you might not hear from us for a few weeks, but you might, we don't know. Crossing the World Cup starts in two weeks. We'll actually bang out the Aggers one next week as our break,

and then we'll be back. Yeah, all right, brilliant. Enjoy the rest of your time off. Enjoy your holiday. Thank you. Are you going to play golf? Like, what you're doing? Bit of everything.

Bit of lying in the sun, bit of reading my book, bit of drinking wine, bit of playing golf. Can't wait. Right. Enjoy your last couple of games of cricket. So adios. Adios. And everyone enjoy Ebb to singing and guess who so-and-so is. Love you back. Oh, emails.

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