Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - how do you cut your sandwiches?

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

Cricketers Kate Cross & Alex Hartley are back to discuss India's win at the U19 World Cup, and a surprise omission from South Africa's squad. There's also time for plenty of icks!

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And cross strikes in the first over. It's what England we're looking for. Hartley falls. Down the track comes scoring. This time she connects. It's either six or out. It's six. Hello and welcome back to No Bulls Cricket podcast with me, Alex Harley and you, Kate Cross.

Hello. Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm okay, thank you. How are you? I'm good, thank you. I'm good. I'm not bad. Yeah? What's that little cut you got on your hand? This all is a batting blister. Oh, wow.

Got some new gloves, didn't I? And just not used to them. Gloves? Gloves, yeah. Oh, that's one to be proud on. Speaking of batting, I saw a nice little video of you on Instagram the other day, leaving a straight one again. Yeah, it can happen. It can happen. It was a bad batting day. It was a bad batting day. Every day is a bad day at the minute.

So for those that don't know, you actually do practice that leave? You'd have thought I'd have learnt my lesson. Do you want to know a secret? I'd love to know a secret. Instagram is not real life, crossy. And I wasn't leaving that ball. I played at it and then pretended to leave it and screenshot me leaving it. No. Get rid of that, Henry.

Don't let anyone know that. That is a secret. So I did get absolutely castled, but I then pretended to leave the ball. And obviously, the stumps were sprailed everywhere. Sprailed? Sprawled. It is very true that sentence you say, because Instagram is not real, is it? It's a very fake world that everyone lives in.

that's just not real life. It's why mine's been so quiet recently because I do nothing. Do you know what? I was thinking about my highlights reel that I did from the year of 2022. I always do one on New Year's Eve. I was like, I'm going to do a low-lights reel

because there was pictures of me in like a cast when I hurt my wrist, there was a picture of me cry when I had depression, the picture of me crying when we lost the World Cup final. I was like, why am I just putting the good stuff up? Yeah, I thought about that. I thought for every good thought I should put one of me crying

because there's definitely loads. And they normally follow each other, don't they? We have a spurt of happiness and then it's like, oh, we're a bit sad. Yeah, so happy new year, everyone. Happy New Year. Actually, how are you now that we're on it? How are you doing?

Not coping, crossy. I'm not coping. You did just say every day is a bad day and I ignored it, so that's a good friendship. Every day is a bad day at the minute. But that's all right. I'm not doing anything bar work, and I had two weeks off work and I worked the other job,

so I'm just exhausted. Do you want to dissect or? Do you want to... Well, I'm worried that I'll actually have a mental breakdown live on the podcast and cry, so I think... I've done it. I've done it, Al. Yeah, yeah, I'm not really in the headspace for that. I'm just not doing anything in my life.

I'm playing cricket and I'm training and I'm working. And I think I've had a realization that this is not sustainable. So I... We will come back to the non-sustainability bit, But you have to remember that for everyone else out there, playing cricket and commentating, it's so wicked. It's just because it's your life and you're so used to doing it and we take it for granted that you think you're not doing anything.

But actually, you really are. It's just because you're so used to it. Yeah, but like I'm getting home and it's like 5pm is going to bed. Because I'm tired. You are a big sleeper, aren't you? Yeah. You'll have to get up the next day regardless of what you do. It's not just because of cricket.

Sometimes at the minute I'm like, I don't want to get up the next day. Are you, we are really doing this counselling session live on this podcast, but it doesn't matter. Are you taking your time off, your days off well, or are you not using them wisely? My problem is at the minute there's been very few and far between on my days off. So I do nothing.

And then I waste the day off. No, that's not wasted. Well, yeah, but what I'm going to do this week is I'm going to take Friday off cricket and not train on Friday because I've got to go to London for work Saturday but I'm going to use Friday as a cricket research day for the World Cup and then I will feel prepared. I mean, that's not even a day off either. No, I know that's what I mean.

That is what I mean. But, no, this podcast is real. This is why people like it and I'm struggling at the minute. I went out for tea last night Cross with my mum and dad because they're going travelling and I was like right we need to meet up

we need to go out of tea so I went out of tea I didn't say a word like the whole time my mum looked to me she's like we need to go I drove all the way home took me like 35 minutes

and then I had to ring my dad and say I didn't even say thank you for buying my tea like I'm smiling I'm laughing you know I could be it I could be worse yeah

how are you looking at it you couldn't be worse yeah I'm fine Thank you. I've had a day to myself today because like you, I've been very tired and I've just needed to recharge my batteries rather than recharging everyone else's. So I've just got out of the bath. I'm doing my podcast with my best friend and I'm in South Africa. It's raining today though. Not good. You're in South Africa? I am. We've played two warm-up games so far. Mm-hmm. they've gone badly and then very well

for summary okay that's good you played one yeah we played the first game which I think you might have seen the scores of we were 9 to 2 all out and New Zealand were 93 for 9 it was a very bad pitch

not the best prep start that we would have liked but then we moved grounds and played a game yesterday and it was much better much more realistic. So yeah, I think everyone's just starting to build now. Obviously, our first game is the 11th of Feb, so we're still a fair way out from that.

So we've got three more warm-up games. So, yeah, there's still a lot of prep left. Well, that's all right. You've got loads of time, like there's no rush. It's all about peeking at the right time. Yeah, and Louis said to us, you don't win a World Cup in a warm-up game, which is very true. But do I imagine if you did?

Well, yeah. I mean, we would be one. one at the minute, so we still wouldn't have won anything, but... Well, yeah, true, very true. It was nice to see you playing, though. I know it's only a warm-up game, but warm-up games for every person in that team are totally different because, like, Siverbrunt, it's a warm...

Siverbrun. Siverbrun! Okay, shall we do the Siverbrunt chat now? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, they, both of them, Catherine Siverbrun, and that Siverbrun have got Siverbrunt on the back of their shirts. Yes, so they've made it official They are married

They got married last year But they've officially changed their cricketing name Names to Siverbrunt And Catherine described it as Their shirts looking like the alphabet Right Yeah, I mean they do have like K, Siverbrunt and then N Siverbrant

But I like it It's great, isn't it And there was so much positive stuff on social media And there was obviously It was still the negative stuff However, in my opinion, I think if they'd have done that five years ago, it would have been awful to read. And it filled my heart with confidence reading it all yesterday because there was majority positive stuff. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, positive moves, and I love it and ballsy from them, but good on them. It just looks so funny. Like Nat goes out to bat and it says ends of a brunt. It's just not what you're so used to see, and it's cool. No, I can't wait to get it wrong. yeah you will even on our WhatsApp group so like when we get put into um like transport buses or whatever and it's like KC FD and you get caught by your initials just to make it easier for the manager it's now NSB KSB that's cool yeah so it's definitely

fully properly changed so we've got to call them civil run anyway so a warm game for them is totally different because they're just getting into the swing of things they're doing what they need, they know they're going to play that first game. For somebody like you, Charlie Dean, it's like a point to prove that you can be playing and it's such a hard place to be in because everyone's like, it's just a warm-up game, but you're like, it's not just a warm-up game. It's like a trial match, but it's not a trial match. It's really, really heavy.

It's weird. Yeah. But how do you feel? How did it go for you? It was difficult because the pitch was so bad and the game was just, rubbish. But we made a real fist of it, which was a great effort from us. So that made it a lot better for me generally. But it's just so strange for me because I feel like in the one day squad, like the warm-up game would literally be a prep, get ready, whereas this just feels

like I'm 21 years old again, proving a point, trying to get my place in the team. And literally as I go out to field, the head coach says to me, don't put too much pressure on yourself. So obviously I'll put too much pressure on myself because I just want to play. But I've got to remember that like I said to myself before I come out here, just enjoy it all. If you get to play incredible bonus,

you can play T20 cricket, you've proved yourself in 100 formats in Indian T20 challenge formats. Like you can do it. You've just got to trust yourself. Yeah, you have got to trust yourself. And I'm going to remind you of that before the next game

because I know you'll get stressed. Yeah, and I honestly, I feel like it's such a strange down to me because I feel like I am a senior player still in the squad, obviously, because I've 31. But I'm still like relatively an experience when it comes to England T20.

So it's like you're trying to help the young Seamers, but then it's also like, oh, you've played more games than me now. So, hmm. Yeah, yeah, Lauren Bell, I think you should probably do this, this and this, but you've actually got more caps than me.

What should I do? Yeah, what should I do? You talk to me, Belly. Come on. It's such a weird place, isn't it? It is strange, it is. But you're there, and it's better to be there than at home. Exactly, and, yeah, I'm not going to take that bit for granted, so, yeah.

I'm good, I honestly, I'm okay. Be depressed at home or depressed on tour? Yeah, and you always want to be depressed on tour. No, you're not depressed at them in anything. No, I'm not. No, I'm all good In other news There's been an under 19th World Cup

There has And it was really nice of you girls To set the standard and the score For the under 19s final Yeah, yeah Sadly, Grace Scribans was not able to pass on The Lucky Lion to us, shame

No, no I'm actually gutted for them Like they played so well And then the semi-final and the final like they just came up against two really good sides. They scraped over the line in the semi-final in an absolute thriller. It was one of them where you thought

because the semi-final had given them that belief that they can win from anywhere. You just thought, oh, if they could get to like 80, 90 in the final. But to be fair to them, they did exactly what Grace said when she came on the pod, didn't she? They were so positive, like almost too positive in a way because it was more like decision-making and execution rather than intent.

You can't afford their intent at all as a batting unit, but they just, yeah, they just blessed them. They were outplayed on the day and they were so just sad at the end of the game. We went to watch them,

we drove, we got the bus and drove to watch them. And they were just blessed them, like, not demoralised, they weren't that bad, but you just wanted to like collectively hug them and be like,

it's okay, honestly, you girls are going to go places, you'll be absolutely fine. And they are, and it is only the start for them. Like, it's, Like, they've played in a World Cup. What an experience.

It's just so... When you lose a World Cup final. Yeah. And you're almost like... I spoke to Serran and Lib at the end of the game who are Thundergirls. And they were really angry, which, like, you can imagine from Lib can't you know, Lib.

Like, she was just so angry. And then you just like... It's hard to say to them, like, it doesn't matter, but it really does matter. It's everything at the time. But, like, in three months time, they'll be playing for thunder and they'll be a loving life again and it's just such this like rollercoaster that you have to ride.

Yeah, like it doesn't matter but it does matter, but you were great. And think of all the young girls and boys that they have inspired to play cricket throughout the tournament. It's incredible. And like Josh Butler's wishing them good luck. Jason Roy wishing them good look. Like women's cricket 10 years ago would not even have been on the map. And now an under 19th World Cup final, they've made it.

Yeah, they haven't won. they've got, they've captured the imagination of English cricket again. I wonder, now here's a question for you. I wonder if you lot going put a bit more pressure on them. I wonder if they felt that. I thought that. I must admit, I thought that because I was thinking about when we played in Feb, you kind of just hidden away on the other side of the world.

No one's really watching. They are, but you just don't know the watching because it's the other side of the world. And like no one's family came because of COVID bubbles. so like yeah we were just a bit hidden when and then I thought gosh dude will they feel pressure but we obviously didn't want to do it that way we wanted them to feel our support um so yeah hopefully it wasn't our fault no no I just think sometimes that they'd be like oh being girls are here like we wish we want to be them and you know what I mean yeah oh but bless them all they've been amazing I tweeted saying you don't always have to win to win and I think that

kind of sums it up for me that they were just incredible and yeah the trophy would have been brilliant but actually they've still done such good things and good on them. Yeah, they have. Stay on World Cups. Why not? Because there's loads going on at the minute. Loads of World Cup. So much cricket. Cricket South Africa, Crossy.

Yeah, okay, I'm ready to talk about this. I don't know if I am actually but let's go. Yeah, I don't know if I am or I'm not and I don't know where, I've just been talking to Housemate Fee about it. I don't really know where my heads up with it. So Cricket South Africa have not picked Danei Van Neerkirk, the captain, because she's not met her fitness requirements. Yeah. Now, she's known for a year that she's got to get fit because she

didn't play against you guys because she wasn't fit enough either. Or did she play, but she wasn't fit enough? When was this, sorry? Last year when Lizelle left. No, she broke her foot. So she knew that she had to get fit. My only question is, have they helped her? And obviously, I don't know that. I think that's where it's going to be difficult to talk about

because we don't know the ins and outs of it. And the only thing Dane has said so far is how heartbroken she is not to be in the World Cup squad. I read an article saying that she didn't meet her to UK target, which I also think he's just ridiculous that I'm really. reading that. Like, it's quite a personal thing. And now I'm, like, I'm reading something quite personal about Darnay. And I think if I was heard, I want that in the media, probably not. But it's such a fine line between setting a standard fitness target that everyone has to hit and skill level, because cricket is a very skill-based sport. And the 2K, I think,

is quite unrealistic in cricket. You don't run for more than 15 seconds at a time, really. Yeah. The 2K, you know someone's base fitness off it, don't you? That's it, isn't it? That's probably your very baseline fitness, which I fully believe you have to have. I think my take on it is,

and I have been trying to think about this because I knew that we were going to talk about it today, but my take on it is that if it affects your injuries, which then affects the team, then it becomes an issue. Yeah. And I think that's where fitness needs to be tailored to the individual. I think that's my opinion.

So my opinion is cricket South Africa, and that South Africa women's team, are a worst team without her in it. Now, whether she's fit or not, she's a very, very good player. And I just think, if you want to win the World Cup, you want to support your players

and you want to put out the best 11 yeah I also think that cricket fitness like fit for purpose in cricket looks very different to being fit and being able to run the 2K in like seven and a half eight minutes I also think there will be a lot of people out there

who will be probably screaming at this podcast right now saying nine and a half minutes like most professional athletes should be able to run a nine and a half half-minute TK, which I actually don't disagree with. But I think when I'm at my best cricket-wise, I'm bowling fit. I can bowl 12 overs on the bounce. If I did a 2K, it probably wouldn't be my best 2K. Well, I wouldn't be unfit, but it wouldn't be my best TK.

And I think there's that, again, it's that real fine balance between the skill, the cricket skill, which is a very skill-based sport, and are you fit for purpose within that team? Can you do your role? Yeah, Dale Stain tweeted, didn't he? Oh, no, not made my 2K by 2 seconds. It means I'm fiss at cricket. And he's got a point? Yeah.

Yeah. It's really hard, and it's heartbreaking for Darnay, and she's come back from an injury, and she's Instagram saying she'd lost 10 kilos, and she's obviously been working really hard, and it's not quite been good enough. But you also have to have these, like, lines in the sand.

So they set the standards last summer and Lizelle Lee ended up being like, well, I'm going to have to retire because I can't, I can't do this. You're not going to pick me, I can't do this, I'm retiring. And once you've done that, they've made a rod for their own back, they can't go back on it. Yeah. And the other thing I will say

again for the people that are screaming at the podcast is that this is not an excuse by any means, but women in general generally find it harder to keep fitness levels than men do. Like it's just, like we would have to keep ticking over a lot more than men do because that's just how anatomy works.

Like we've got it harder, no way. That's not an excuse, but we do it. Like we lose fitness quicker. Yeah. Yeah, I can vouch for that. Yeah. Sitting on your ass for four months means you lose a shitload of fitness. I think we should go.

Was there anything else to talk about? I think we need to go upstairs because this has been a very serious podcast. Actually, let's do one more quick thing because. the women's Premier League has been announced. The teams have been bought. It's been a shedload more money that's been announced. The second most lucrative cricket league in the entire world. And should we tell everyone what the teams are called,

even though everyone will probably know? Yeah, go on then. So we've got the Gujarat Giants. We've got the Mumbai Indians women. We've got the Royal Challenges. Bangalore, which is the RCB women. We've got the Delhi Capitals women and we've got the Lucknow Warriors.

So good. So, so good. So the draft is going to be held somewhere between the 8th and the 16th of Feb. And I think it's coming out this week which day it will be. The BCCI will be announcing that. So something else to look forward to in the cricket calendar. Buzzing. I've put myself in the draft.

So of you. I won't get picked up. You might. I am so ready to support RCP. Crossy. you've said you're going to support if you don't get picked up whoever's got the best kit.

I'm just going to support, yeah, the team with the nicest kit. That's how I'm going to decipher it. Do you want to know what made my day today? RCB tweeted me about the women's IPL. Saying what? They put me in an RCB shirt,

like celebrating an RCB shirt. Love that. Maybe they are after you, Al. So I think I think I might be going, Crossy. I think it's a hint. Right. Love it. Absolutely love it. If one of us gets picked up, that is it.

This podcast is going to go to India. We love it. Yes. I've got one thing I'm sticking out. Go on then? I prefer water out of the bathroom tap than the kitchen tap. Oh, right. Okay.

Why have you gone anywhere near the bathroom tap for water? Would be my question. Because when I used to do it all the time at home and I started doing it here, when you've just got a glass in your room and you feel it all, before you got to bed and it tastes so much nicer wonder why that is

yeah I'm not sure and it's colder okay that would make sense as to why it tastes better because cold water tastes different

to room temperature water yeah yeah oh maybe if anyone else has got that let us know if not it's just an LBW

if not it's just throwback LBW yeah I know are you got anything on yours or should we go upstairs no let's get upstairs

get up them stairs run up on your hands and feet like a 12 year old boy Who are we going up with? Let's go upstairs with the all-female ICC panel that's going to be at this Women's World Cup. Yes, okay. That's a busy event.

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Hi, guys. I saw a tweet asking how people cut their toast. For example, cut lengthways into rectangles, cut across into triangles or into quarters or into small triangles. Growing up, I thought toast cut into triangles was only for special occasions or in a posh place, such as a hotel. This also reminded me. of a story my mum taught me. As a child, I went to play at a friend's house and when I came home, told my parents that he lived in a fancy house. When they asked why, I said it's because

they had cushions on their sofa. This made me think of a question for you or pod. Are there anything as you guys think are a treat or posh? Others might not have a great time in South Africa. Oh, that's a good one. Now, I cut my triangles into toast. No, wait. No, you don't. I cut my toast into triangles, only when I'm having paté on Christmas Day. Yeah, it's a patay thing, isn't it? I go generally just in half. Yeah, but what's posh that's not posh?

We're the worst people to ask because we are so not posh. Yeah. Fizzy water. I went to someone's house once in Australia and they had a fizzy water tap in the fridge. That was posh. That is posh, though. Underfloor heating, posh. Posh.

But they're actual things. that were posh. What did we think were posh as kids that actually just probably not? They're not. I really don't know.

No. Different sized spoons. Yes. You know, like the long candle spoon? Yeah, my friend once had a trampoline I thought that was quite posh.

Oh. Cushion's on a sofa. I don't think I would have thought that was posh. No, me neither. Maybe we have a think about that and maybe, again, people can email us in

with the things they thought were posh that weren't posh. Yeah, nice. Hi, Alex and Kate. I was wondering if you thought there should be a limit for how many areas you can be a badger. I'd say I have three. Part of me wonders if you can truly hold three badgerships, but then part of me thinks that just having one may be unhealthy. A bit boring for friends, colleagues and acquaintances. As a self-confessed cricket badger, do you have any other areas of badgerness? I'm just a cricket badger. Yeah, I think I'm just a cricket badger I'm probably a friend's badger as well actually Yeah, you definitely are Yeah But sporting wise I'm not

So no I think I've only got one badgership Yeah, I think, yeah I've definitely only got one My life is live love cricket Yeah Good question though Hi Kate and Alex Hope you both doing well

tough question that I've got two questions since last time I emailed in I didn't ask one firstly when you both started in cricket how did you remember all the fielding positions and their names

good one I got told I couldn't go to Lancashire training by the coach if I didn't know the fielding positions by the next week so it was like homework

you had to learn them yeah I had to learn them it is hard and I still get mid on and mid off mixed up I'll still I know which one it is, but I'll say mid-off instead of mid-on for some reason.

Oh, that's weird. Yeah. Is that Daisy Mullen that's asked that? Did you have a technique to help remember, or is it just repetition? I can just about remember leg side is the left of the batter from my dad's technique for remembering that side.

Oh, no. The leg side, the easiest way to remember the leg side is the side of their ass, the legs. Yeah, but you've got legs on both sides. No, not if you're batting. Yeah, your legs are technically pointing to the off side. Oh, you're making this more complicated. That's what I mean. It's easy for you.

The legs side is the side of the batter's ass. Okay. Secondly, and you might not know this, but I've noticed the under 19s England women in the International T20 World Cup are wearing the blue ODI shirt and not the red one. Is there a reason for this? I don't know for sure

But I would put it down to the fact That the kit gets changed in April And there might not have been enough T20 kit To make them wear T20 kit Yeah, I didn't even notice Good And if you want an ick Mine is when people at work

Will put their spoon in the sugar bowl After being in the coffee or tea Crusting the sugar and turning it round Great ick Superb ick It's not even an ick It's just wrong It is. It's just what's the right word. It's disrespectful is what it is. Common courtesy to have a dry spoon in sugar.

Keep up the good work. Can't wait to hear the next podcast and good luck in South Africa Kate next month. Thanks, Henry. I've got an ick as well. One of my icks I saw it the other day is people who go out for a run and then carry on running when they're at the traffic lights and they can't run. But they keep jogging on the spot. Yeah. Yeah. Huge one. I've got one as well. People that put videos on Instagram of them playing golf, Crossy. No, don't be like that. Everyone's part of the golf journey now, Al. I hate it. I hate it.

Why? It's a thing. Yeah, that's what I mean. Why is it a thing? And why are people bothered about someone's golf swing? Because I think, having played it now, I really appreciate when people hit it straight. Because it's so hard to hit it straight.

Yeah, yeah. Right. Should you do another one? Hi ladies, this win is going to do wonders for women's cricket in India, especially with the up-and-coming women's Premier League. It's called under-19s final. Two points I will make. Oh, this is quite punchy.

Firstly, I reiterate my previous comment that Liberty Heap should focus on becoming an opener in 50 over cricket and maybe a long-term replacement for Tammy Beaumont. I think she is put under too much pressure to knock the cover off the ball from the top and more especially difficult as the captain tends to farm the early strike she needs to take her time. I think Liberty is a very rare talent and actually she just needs to learn to build an innings.

Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. And I also think when you get given the licence to play the opener in a T20 game, you're going to play very differently to how you do in a 50-over game. Yeah. Secondly, is the issue yet again of a final being played on a warm pitch. It does seem to disproportionately favor the team chasing

and we saw how Grace Scriven's was really struggling to lay bat on board. Do you think any of the girls will be drafted in the Women's Premier League and can you each nominate one breakthrough in the 100 this summer? It's a really hard email to read this, Hugh. So who's going to get picked up in the Women's Premier League? I got a tweet from someone saying that it's done us wonders as a senior women's England team that the under 19s girls didn't win that trophy because otherwise they would have all got picked up ahead of us in the women's Premier League

so I kind of disagreed with that a little bit. I can't imagine that Lib Heaps getting picked up ahead of Danny Wyatt but you never know. You never know. Never know. There could genuinely be nine of you lot they get picked up easily. Yeah, like a good example. example of that would probably be capsie because she's she would have been in that under 19s

team if you know if she wasn't in the senior team so she could easily get picked up and be yeah but can you see anyone from the 19s being picked up no it would be unlikely but again it's you just never know do you like you can't predict these things no wants to watch for the hundred i mean scribs did really well last year she'll only be better this year Hannah Baker for me. Yeah, she played with you at Welsh Fire, didn't she? Yeah, I think she's going to be even better. Yeah, and that's what the point of that tournament was about, wasn't it?

It was to give the girls the opportunity to be playing competitive cricket away from home in big tournaments, not just in the 100. They don't have to have to wait 11 months for that to come around before the playing again. Yeah, exactly. Do you want to do my finger is an Ike email? I've got it ready for you. Hi Kate and Alex After listening to all your discussions about icks I thought you might like to know

that my finger apparently is an ick last season I snapped a tendon in my little finger taking a dive catch at midwicket I carried on playing took another catch later on and batted to what a tough cookie

and then played again the day after before I was persuaded to take myself and my very wonky and very bruised finger to A&E after a thorough telling off from the doctors they wrapped my finger up in a delightful little plastic crock

type thing to keep it straight. I had to keep this on permanently for six weeks. A couple of weeks later, I was at the football with my dad, and when I was waiting for him after the game, two girls walked past, and as they did, one said to the other, I never knew I had an ick until I saw that bloke's finger. Well, I'm sorry, my field in prowess is such a turn off for you. Good luck for the World Cup, and both keep up the great work on the pod. Hopefully my daughter and I will see you in the hundred this summer, although we will be supporting the superchargers. Go well, Matthew. Matthew, we're going to file that under

Never Happened. I'm going to file that under if that did happen. Rude? Yeah, I just don't think that happened. Rude. Who's saying that? Yeah, I'm not sure.

We need to do our thank you. Thank you. Okay. Did Henry take it out of the last one? I can't remember. But thank you, Neil. Yeah. Wait, I close my email.

Thanks, Snail, and Hugh. You read that one out. And Alex Martin. And Jenny Judd, oh no, that was my parking notice that she sent through. Thanks, Jenny. So thank you and Paul. Right, thank you a lot for your emails. That was a shambles.

We're a shambles. It's been a pleasure. It's actually put a little smile back of my miserable face. Good. That's what the pod is for. It's two friends, being real, talking about depression. How could he be real, by the way? I'm a bit over it now, you know.

Come on, keep going. All right, okay. See you on that. I can't wait for it. Thank you for your emails, everyone. Please, if you want to get in touch with those, email us on. Noblespodcast at BBC.co.com. Noblespodcast at BBC.co.com.

It's so good. They've said it twice. Crossy, this time next week, we'll be live both of us from South Africa after you've played a few more. want on the games. Seth Africa, can't wait. See you, bye. Leck up, bye.

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