Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - Ohhhhh Jimmy, Jimmy!

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

Jimmy Anderson (yes, THE Jimmy Anderson) joins Kate and Alex to talk India, Ashes, warm-ups and frogs. Plus, Crossy did something for the first time in seven years this week......

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Starting point is 00:00:41 it's either six or out it's six hello and welcome back to no balls the group podcast with me Alex Hartley and you Catherine Laura Cross why you middle name in me because I thought I'd spice things up a little bit you know nice nice okay how you doing I'm all right thank you how are you yeah I'm very well thank you very very well
Starting point is 00:01:08 good I have got over my really bad day yesterday I had one of those days where cricket makes you cry but today's a new day I've had 11 and a half hours sleep and I'm good lovely you did say that you said I need to have a cry I need to eat some food I need to get into bed and I need to sleep for half of the day which you've done so I'm proud of you well done So I'm back, baby. Yeah, I feel like we start these podcasts now with you not being back,
Starting point is 00:01:33 giving a reason why you've got back and then saying you're back and then we go through it all again. Yeah, because the podcast recording day is my favourite day of the week. It is. We've been, oh my God, I've been looking forward to this day since last Thursday because I've got so, so much on my sticky note to get through. Oh my God, I'm so excited. Are you all right, by the way?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, you asked me that and I said I'm really well, thank. Yeah, but you meant to ask twice. sorry um yeah i'm good thank you i traveled down to bristol yesterday to meet up with the one day squad because she's in the england team baby guess who's back yes who's back um so yeah good we've got a first game on thursday i've got five match series against new zealand which feels really strange because it feels like the end of the season and i've got more international cricket ahead of me yeah i've played this summer honestly crossy like i don't know how you're going to play another five games because I am exhausted. And it's September, so it's going to be cold and three of them
Starting point is 00:02:29 a day, night game. So I'm a touch apprehensive. Let's be honest, you're not going to play five because it will rain for at least one of those days. Every single chance, yeah. Although it's September and it rained like all of August. So you just never know with these seasons now, do you? I think the seasons need to change. I said this at training the other day. I've got a theory. In fact, someone messages us saying that we needed another rat and pig theory. Yeah. I've got another theory. I think, well, I think we've got the same theory. Well, probably because I probably said it to you a month ago and you've probably latched onto it and said it's your theory now because you are the podcast. Oh, here we go. I didn't mean it like that. You know I didn't. Well,
Starting point is 00:03:08 that is, I'm clipping that up and I'm going to put that all over the internet and that is where you're at now. Yeah, so my theory, I'll say mine and you can say yours. I think the months of the year have changed. So I think that everything has shifted back a month now. So actually, summer should be the months of July, August and September. Yeah. And then we go into autumn and then winter is January, February, March. That's my theory. So my theory is that the months should be shifted back a month.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And so summer should be June, July, August. I thought you were going to say your theory is that all the months are 11 months behind. That works as well. Yeah. So yeah, that's my theory. So anyway, we're playing cricket in September. we did it last year at Derby and I remember clutching a hot water bottle for the entire series. Yeah, same. I remember commentating in a winter coat.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah, not good. So yeah, I'm good. I'm actually in a bit of isolation because we've had our last COVID test this morning so I've just got to wait for that to come back negative and then I can go and mingle with the girls again, which I'm really looking forward to. Yeah, so you get to see everybody. And the last time you played an ODI, you got five for. No, the last time I played an ODI I got one for. Last time you played an ODI series, you got a five for. Yes. Good stuff. Good to see you doing your homework, Al. Yeah, good. I've got until Thursday to do that. So we're all good.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Right. First thing on my sticky note, we didn't mention last week the fact that you did that incredible voiceover for the BBC. Oh, yeah, we didn't. No, we just left it. Yeah, completely ignored it. Obviously, it's the hindsight podcast. How good was that? I know. And I was so surprised when I listened to it back, I've actually watched it 50-odd times. times now and it gives me goosebumps every time. I'm like, that is me. Honestly, it like blew my mind that I sit here every single week with you and watch you struggle to read out a simple email. And then I listened to that and it was like you were David Attenborough or something. I've never seen anyone narrate something so well. Do you know what was quite good as well? I still had my chest infection
Starting point is 00:05:13 so my voice was quite like more sexy and husky. A bit raspy. Yeah. They're like Phoebe and friends, yeah. Yeah. So my voice was probably better than it is. now. So anyone listening to that voiceover, it's on Al's Instagram page and she tweeted it as well, go and listen to it and just imagine the green mucas in the back of her throat while she's saying it. And between
Starting point is 00:05:34 lines I'm like, yeah, nice. The other thing that I want to talk about, sorry, to interrupt you, before we go on, you made your fighting talk debut as well on Saturday. Yes, I did, I did. And I listened to it because I'm a good friend
Starting point is 00:05:50 and I had nothing else to do that morning. And I was in stitches when you were talking about the fact that we brought up the fact we got this podcast called No Bowls and it's a great name. And the alternative, our sister podcast, it's called Stuart Broad's Floppy One. Yeah, how good? How good is that? Because on to anyone that's not listened to Fighten Talk, they said it's International Hat Day on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Think of a sports person that wears a hat. And I was like, Stuart Broad's Floppy One. Nice. Great name. for a rival podcast. Yeah, well, it was meant to be our sister podcast. Great name for our sister podcast. So I don't know who's, maybe Brody and Molly can do it.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, nice. Talk about Stuart Broad's floppy one. So good. What a chaotic show fighting talk is, by the way? It didn't come across that way. No, it was good. I've never listened to it, so I didn't really know what to expect. But I didn't realize it was an actual game show.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, neither did I. But you got to be honest. it with one of my heroes, Richard Osmond. Yeah. A funny man he is. So funny. And I was stood there, sat there, thinking, how am I on this show with these people? He got a good agent, that's why.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, great agent. Right. On my sticky note, I've made notes this week, Rossi. Good. Because I'm back. The podcast is back. So I went down to Somerset County Cricket Ground to watch a T20, the last T20 of the England series the other day.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And I met a lovely girl called Mets. who listens every week and we don't normally do this but she asked for a shout out so hello Meg hi Meg that is it okay
Starting point is 00:07:31 lovely there's actually a bit more to that story isn't she because her number one she's my number one fan yeah well I didn't want to get into that so I asked okay okay I said
Starting point is 00:07:41 who's your favourite England cricketer she said Catherine Brunt and Gate Cross and Gate Cross I love Gate Cross I said alright then who's your favourite Manchester Originals player
Starting point is 00:07:49 Kate Cross was like bye Right, see you. Bye. We'll cut that short. Yeah, nice. Right, I've got another thing on, I've got so much on this sticking out. This could be a long episode because we've got a guest as well.
Starting point is 00:08:02 We have got a guest. There's been a movement on Instagram and on Twitter. The no-ballers, the psychopath spuds, are calling for trough and peak of the week again. Yes, they are. They really want trough and peek at it was like 90% yes and 10% no. And we stopped doing it because it was mostly during lockdown, wasn't it? It was like our peak of the week was the fact that we saw the postman that day. And it just all got a bit lame.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So we canned it and they want it back. Well, should we bring it back? Well, I'm going to put you on the spot a little bit here, Al. Okay. But let's do, trough and peak of the week. Peak of the week. Please can you go first? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So my peak of the week was the fact that I scored my first, list A 50 since 2014 on Friday at sale How good from you And I did it I did it in front of a group of cavemen With two dinosaurs
Starting point is 00:09:03 I did it in front of two frogs and a wizard And I did it in front of Some people who should have been watching Virat Koli Bat And instead we're watching Kate Crossbat Yeah well you've just taken my peak of the week away from me Well I can't have done Because you didn't know we were doing it until 45 seconds ago
Starting point is 00:09:17 And then I was thinking about it I was like that crowd is going to be my peak of the week Well, that wasn't my peak of the week, so go ahead. So my peak of the week is the test match got cancelled. It's not the peak. I'm giving it some context. Yeah, keep going. And a few of the members, members, crowd members, didn't know what to do for the day.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So they googled the nearest cricket ground. And I think Lanks put a thing out saying, if you want to go and watch the girls, they're at sale. So we had stagdos, people in fancy dress, all coming to watch us play cricket. and absolutely loving it, getting involved, like shouting, screaming, chanting our names and it was incredible. They were brilliant. I was actually fielding in front of a group of lads
Starting point is 00:10:00 and they said to me, they said, because you were bowling at the time, they said, is there any nicknames for Hartley? Like, bearing in mind, they didn't know who was playing. They just saw your name on the back of your shirt. So I gave them one of our nicknames for you. Yeah. And the second you were about to bowl,
Starting point is 00:10:15 they shouted it and you absolutely wet yourself. didn't you? You couldn't bowl for laughing. Yeah. And then you took a wicket. When you finally did get, you know, stop laughing enough to bowl, you took a wicket and you were giving it the all like pointing at them in the crowd and I'm running through pointing at them as well. And we ran towards the crowd to point at them and be like, that was for you. It was brilliant. I've got it clipped up actually. I will, when this comes out, I'll tweet that because it's a very funny video. And there's, without context, it's not
Starting point is 00:10:42 funny. But now that people know the story, it is very good. Nice. What is your trough of the week? trough of the week do you have one while I'm thinking yeah I do we played the most horrendous game of cricket yesterday against the Northern Diamonds
Starting point is 00:10:59 at Durham County Cricket Ground and it made my day so bad you know they scored 300 and we scored 140 or something it was just one of those days where you set a field as captain and the ball goes in the opposite direction of where it should and things like that
Starting point is 00:11:15 and I went like sixes and there's a few drop catches and it was just freezing cold and you can just tell everyone's done with cricket we've got one more game and just the trough of the week yeah okay fair enough um do you know what i don't know if i've got a trough of the week you can't bring back pop peaking trough of the week or whatever it's called and then not have one um my two best mates that aren't you were in dittsbury village the other day and i had to wave at them through the window because I was in isolation. I'd had my
Starting point is 00:11:51 COVID test. I wasn't had to see anyone. And it just got to me again, and I feel like I say this all the time on the pod, but it just got to me like how much we sacrifice to play sport and sometimes it gets forgotten about especially now there's crowds back and people
Starting point is 00:12:07 are coming to watch cricket again. I think it just reminded me of how much we've given to be able to play cricket this summer. Yeah. That That is fair, but the video of you waving out your window is very funny. Yeah, it was funny, wasn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Any more sticky notes? Loads, Al? Absolutely, loads. We've talked about the test match card, so I can get rid of that one. Should I do, have you got one right now? Yeah, I'd just like to touch on one. We did a little beef last week, didn't we? And I've got a bit of beef with you actually now.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Oh, no. So you said on the podcast last week, and I know you were winding me up, but it really did hit home, that the reason that Thunder have been losing games of cricket is because I've been playing again. Yep. I did say that. Your trough of the week actually just then was you talking about losing badly a game of cricket, like horrendously, probably one of the worst losses
Starting point is 00:12:56 that you've had all season or possibly as captain when I wasn't there. We really missed you yesterday, like really missed you. All I wanted to hear. We've had a message on Instagram. Can you please do bucket hats because I will 100% buy one purely for the fact it's ugly as hell, but it's got you two on it?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Because somebody in a cross. crowd made their own bucket hat with our faces on how outrageous was that i saw it we got tagged in it on the instagram page and i was like no way someone's having us on here but someone is actually and it's it's not just one picture of me and you it's thousands of mini pictures of me and you on this person's hat i think i quite like it that person needs to make a little website and make some money off that because we're not allowed to sell any merchandise do what you want honestly yeah just just order your own or do you own donate something to charis and we'll be happy.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yes. A couple more things. Did you see Player of the Week this week from the ICC? The Doggo. The Dogo, yes. Yes. How good.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Razzle, I think it was called. Razzle the dog. Oh my God. Viral. It went viral. So, Ireland. Was it Ireland women or I don't even know what it was. I don't know who was playing.
Starting point is 00:14:14 A women's game in Ireland and the ball gets hit out into the deep and a dog runs on the pitch and gets hold of the ball. The dog gets the ball. The ball gets thrown back to the wicketkeeper. The wicketkeeper launches the ball at the stumps in an attempt to run out and then the dog gets the ball. And all I can think about is whoever's owner, the owner of that dog must have been running on the pitch going, Razel! Razel! Razzle! Come, Razel! But there's a little boy that's chasing it and you just think, oh my God, they're going to be so embarrassed that their dogs run on the pitch.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I'm just going to double check it's called Razzle actually because I might make that up Well even if it's not Dazzle Dazzle the dog Razzle works Razzle works better rename it Razzle
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah Razzle the dog Dazzle the dog Same same but different Same same but different Are you done with your sticking out I have one more Right you go and then I've got one more
Starting point is 00:15:12 I noticed something in this flat today I've never seen it before your heating device is really slick and pretty you've got one of them like one of them smart meters and I text you being like how do I put the heating on it's winter it's absolutely
Starting point is 00:15:32 no no no that is not what you text me what are you lying for can you actually text me can you put the heating on can you put the heating on for me for an hour I don't know what to do I'm overwhelmed because I have an app my phone and you've got that little smart device so I didn't know what to do so you had to talk me through it but it's very pretty once it's all switched on it's good isn't it it's a little handy
Starting point is 00:15:53 device and also you can ask Alexa yeah I know I can't wait for tomorrow morning be like Alexa I'm cold right are you ready for this I don't know because you text me the other day being like you've got something for the podcast and you won't tell me what it is because I wanted a genuine reaction to this so I was listening to the podcast last week as I do and you don't do I listen this week. And it came to my attention, and I didn't know about this, but I did not realize that I had only adopted an elephant for you for one year. Yes. So I'm just going to forward an email onto you, and I'm going to let you read it out on the podcast. Okay. But I have amended the situation. I'm so nervous. Okay, I've sent it through to you, so you should get it
Starting point is 00:16:42 now. Okay. Just uploading. Kate Cross, thank you for your adoption. Forwarded. Thank you, animal name, Vishana, warty pigs. Package gold. Hi, Catherine, thank you for your Vishan one. How do you say that? I don't know, but it looks like Visayan warty pig.
Starting point is 00:17:13 So you've, we are certain that Alex, space, middle name, Andrea, will love it. So you've adopted me a pig. A warty pig. A warty pig. Okay, that, I mean, that's got you 90 quid. Well, because with the gold membership, you got two admission fees and I owe you a trip to Chester Zoo. So I bought it as a gold package. But I was looking at these animals and I was thinking, what can I adopt for it?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Because you've had the elephant now. You did the truck. you've had it all and I thought who out there is adopting a warty pig for their kid no one so I thought you can adopt those little water pigs and on the little plaque it says Alex Andrew Harley and I think we should go and see them because we've got two free emissions so basically I got a free pig no they weren't free admissions because it came with the gold membership so I've had to pay for the admission so good though I'm oh thank you for my warty pig you so you weren't now with a proud mum of a warty pig. So last year I got a little booklet with a picture of my elephant. So hopefully this year I get a booklet with my warty pig. And if you have to go to the zoo dressed as an animal, I'd love to see you dressed as a little warty pig. Right. Brilliant. Of course you would. I don't need to dress up for that. No. Like mother like daughter. Oh. Do we have time for questions or do we
Starting point is 00:18:36 we're just going to have to introduce the guest? I think we need to go into the guest. This is going to, we said it would be a long episode. In fact, I've got But one set of questions that I promised I was going to read out today. Okay. And so much so these came through to me on an Instagram message because we've been ignoring our emails. So, like, okay, right. Well, we'll quickly go upstairs with...
Starting point is 00:18:58 We've got to go out with Anna again. She messaged us. She messaged us saying thanks. Thank you for taking her upstairs. So Anna Harris, we're going again. 6. Sharouk here from Karachi in Pakistan. Guess who's back? Back again. Sharuk's back with her males. Sorry about that, but my last two males didn't get read out, so I'm thinking persistence is key. I'm going to try for a third time. Here are my questions. Q. Amy Satathwaite accent.
Starting point is 00:19:34 My questions. Questions? Kate, are we just going to let Alex's story about the amazing Emma Radicano as the US Open win slide. where she called out, remember the name. How good was that from me? I was like, Emma Ranacat, what, I don't even say the name. Wow. Remember the name. Remember the name, but learn how to say the name before you talk about it on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Say it again for me. Radicarni. Ranacardi. You like Joey and friends when he tries to learn French. Radicarno. Radicarno. Well done. Number two. Whilst re-listening to Carlos' episode, I heard about the anonymous toy animal prankster, which in recent weeks had completely slipped my mind. Did you guys ever find out who was in charge of that? A conclusion to the story will do my OCD a lot of good. We did, didn't we? And two pranksters. In fact, everyone's turned into pranksters, but it was.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Danielle Collins. And Laura Jackson. The two that pranked me. by wrapping all my kit in Klingfilm. I've kept my little animals, though, have you? Yep, I brought them with me on this trip. Nice. Question number three. Have you got any updates on Emma Lam's hand? She got injured yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:57 She did get injured yesterday. Strange that they're resending these questions from a previous email, but they're new questions. Maybe they can read the future. Put the lottery on tonight. Lammy has gone for an x-ray today on her thumb because she may or may not have broken it. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:13 well let's keep our fingers crossed there's another question which i'm not going to ask because it's about getting to tell you what a lot of people have said this to us recently about how good soph was and we need to get back on the podcast and everyone loved your episode just go back and listen to that one again yeah just keep going with it yeah shall we introduce this week's guest speaking of guests shall we let go it's one of our best right crossy as always it gives me great pleasure to introduce this week's guest we've got england's all-time best bowler king of the swingers and oh he's got a little podcast it's jimmy anderson hello thank you so much for agreeing to come on the podcast actually we've got a bones pick with you to start with because we were supposed
Starting point is 00:22:01 to do a tail ender's crossover with you it's been in the pipeline for months last time i spoke to gregg he said he was going to put it in the group and work out when we could all do it and still nothing has surfaced. So there's someone in that WhatsApp group that really doesn't want to do that crossover. So who is it? I don't know. I think it's just trying to find time to get it in the diary, to be honest. Oh yeah. He's definitely mentioned it. But yeah, we'll definitely have to do it at some point. Felix White's going, nah, don't want to get, don't want to do it. No, it's definitely not him. I think it's matching. It could be. Could be. I don't want to name names. but there's someone matching
Starting point is 00:22:40 how are you doing I'm good in a bit of a strange week with a test match being canned on Friday but yeah I'm all right we were about to say that you should be day four of the final test at
Starting point is 00:22:56 Old Traffered but you're not you're at home so that was all a bit strange yeah it was a bit strange and it was like such a shame as well because it was a brilliant series and getting to play at Old Trafford, my home ground. It could have come to, it could be an amazing climax as well to the series, sort of, you know, because of the quality of the cricket throughout.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But, yeah, it was just very weird a few days. When did you guys actually find out that it was off? The morning of the game. So you've not warmed up, so that's a bonus. That's a bonus. but I got woken up at like quarter past seven by Chris Silverwood saying don't bother coming to the ground. There's no play today.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, I was like, yeah, I did wonder what was going on. Well, firstly, I was fuming. I missed the first call because he woke me up. And then when I answered the second time, he was like, yeah, don't bother coming to the ground. And then as the morning went on, we found out more information and the fact that it just wasn't going ahead at all. Well, your test match is lost was our gain
Starting point is 00:24:07 because all of the test match fans came to watch us at sale All of them, Al, there was 200 people there, I'm like 26,000, imagine if you had thousands of people at sale But we had everyone in fancy dressing, it was brilliant Yeah, I did see pictures from that I saw a few people on Twitter like redirecting people to sail who were meant to be going to the test match And I've seen pictures of like frogs and wizards on the boundary
Starting point is 00:24:32 and then maybe a game of cricket at the end of the actual game. It was actually really embarrassing and I was like, oh, we've got these test match fans coming to watch and we've just been bowled out for 110. Couldn't have been a worst game to come and watch. They loved it though.
Starting point is 00:24:45 They actually came up to us and thanked us because they got no cricket to watch and they got to come and watch us. But you need to explain the wizard and the frog thing because I don't listen to your podcast. I'm not going to lie to you. But yeah, there's some context there that we're missing. So can you explain that to our listeners, please?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh, God. mean, I can't really. So basically, Matt on our podcast is a shoe salesman from Bristol for those that haven't listened. He had no idea about cricket before he joined our podcast, then two years later, he somehow the font of all knowledge about cricket. He gave me this kind of sort of, I don't know what you call it, like an ultimatum type thing, same. Would I rather have another 10 years of playing international cricket not aging but I'd have a frog
Starting point is 00:25:37 chasing me around for the rest of my career and if the frog catches me then it kills me right and it was a wizard come into it I think it was a wizard that came up with the fuck
Starting point is 00:25:53 it's the wizard's the wizard's frog or would I rather just carry I think I'd just rather carry on not have a frog chasing me around, but since he's mentioned that, there have been sightings of frogs at cricket grounds in fancy dress throughout the test series, which has been quite funny. So we batted first, and then fielding, I was out at Cal and there's a group of lads behind me.
Starting point is 00:26:18 So I was like, I'll where you guys from? And they were like from London. I was like, what are you doing up here then? It took me till like the 30th over of the second innings to work out that the test match fancy dress had come to watch us. I just thought people were dead keen on women's cricket. Right, what's next for you then, Jimmy? So you're at home now you've got no test cricket.
Starting point is 00:26:36 What's next? I'm going to spend the rest of the month playing golf, I think, and then should start thinking about Australia. We head to Australia in start November. So October will be trying to get in shape for that, trying to get fit and maybe a bit of bowling just to get ready for that. just a bit of bowling you've actually done
Starting point is 00:26:59 you've done a lot of bowling this summer yeah so that's what I mean I was genuinely serious when I said a little bit of bowling because I'm not going to overdo it because we've got a month once we get there
Starting point is 00:27:09 to get up to speed so I'm just going to try and relax the next few weeks because I've done quite a bit over the last like five six weeks and then I'll just tick over because I hate bowling indoors
Starting point is 00:27:23 I don't know about you but I absolutely hate bowling indoors it's nothing more soul destroying really. Is there anything worse than cricket pre-season? Definitely not. I don't understand. The press have been saying how much you've been bowling and you needed to be rested for this last game that didn't go ahead anyway. What would another like 60 overs have been though when you're not playing for another two months? Yeah. Other than a possible side strain. It's a good point. I think yeah, the muscle injuries come
Starting point is 00:27:54 into it a bit. And the fact that like the overall I felt really tired towards the end of that game. So I did feel, I did worry that I was going to get fatigue quite quickly in this last test. But I think I'd have got through it. Like you said, one more test and then a few weeks off. Tiring when prox is chasing you though. That'll help me, wouldn't it? You've got more running to do. Yeah, but I think the fear factor that I'm dead if it catches me with a would spur me on. We thought our podcast was a shambles. Oh, these are shambles. We actually heard a little bit of a rumour going through the summer.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I've got it on good authority that it's true, actually. But you could have potentially signed for the Manchester originals. Can you confirm? Yeah. You were going to? No, I think all the centrally contracted players were given teams. So I was asked at the early stages whether I would want to go into the draft or be associated with a team.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So I think I made a decision I wasn't going to play in it, basically. But I don't think we'll ever know if I'd have. So this doesn't match my timeline. No. I found out once we played at the Oval, not opening night, I was speaking to a certain head coach and I said who would have been the replacement player
Starting point is 00:29:14 for maybe Olly Robb? And he said they were thinking about signing you. Yeah, well, I didn't hear from him. I didn't ask him They didn't sign anyone instead How good is it though That your career is just like an economy rate of three Rather than getting
Starting point is 00:29:30 Hit for 15s like me and I'll do every single week Yeah Yeah but you say that I've played 196 one day internationals And I went up about five and over So I've had the experience of it And I hate it So I hate the thought of it now
Starting point is 00:29:46 Going back to it You can't count 196 one day games From like 10 years ago because the game's moved on since then. That was when 180 was a winning score. I still managed to go for 90 off 10 overs a few times. Can happen. Can happen, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:02 So you are obviously very good at cricket, and Lancashire's your home ground, you've grown up playing cricket there. Did you ask for an end to be named after you, or did you want a stand? I didn't ask for her. I told them to do it. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Demanded it. no i did um do you know what i got told that they were going to do spend a lot of money on a sort of floor to ceiling painting for like the long room what of you yeah and ashley giles was head coach at the time and he said this is what they're thinking and i was like absolutely not he said yeah i'll go back to them and say is there anything else that maybe you could do if you're going to do something
Starting point is 00:30:51 of that sort of nature and then the end sort of came around. I mean, a whole wall painted of you that, I'd have hated that as well. Not me because it's you.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I mean... I mean, if it was me. Yeah, it'd be awful, wouldn't it? Especially if you spend a lot of time at the ground, you're walking in every day and there's a Big. And you don't know who's going to have you seen some of the
Starting point is 00:31:19 paintings at Lords as well? Yeah, but I've got to be really careful about who does it because some of them are shocking. Yeah, they are. I think my probable is awful.
Starting point is 00:31:26 They would have probably commissioned, they'd have probably commissioned a little kid to do it. It would have been awful. But saying that, when the test match was men have been on, there was a big floor
Starting point is 00:31:35 to ceiling picture of you outside the reception of the pavilion. Yeah. I think that's just advertising the game, isn't it? Yeah, but see you got both, so win-win.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You find it embarrassing. You've got a name. end after you? Or do you like it? It doesn't happen in people's careers normally, does it? It's normally like once you've retired. Yeah, I think it's nice. I've been able to bowl at that end, but I find it a bit strange, a bit weird, especially when they announce it, because they don't really know what to say, the announcers. They're like, they don't know how, what tone a voice to use as they're saying it. What tone would you like it to be said in? Just normal. X factor. I remember the, I think I remember the first time I'm
Starting point is 00:32:17 there and it was like from the James Anderson end James Anderson end like just a bit like trying to be a comedian Crossy which end do you have the most success at I actually yeah from Jimmy's end I have most success I don't bowl that well from the Brian's Day of the end right you've had a million five fers and I've got a genuine question about if you right
Starting point is 00:32:41 if you took three wickets in the first 80 overs with the old ball and then took two for with the new ball, which ball do you keep? The old one. Always. More often than not. Does it depend on how many wickets you take with each ball? No, it depends on how many obes are bowl with the second new ball.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Because if it looks brand new and then you keep it and you say, I've got five with this. Of course you've got five for that. Brand new, isn't it? Then if you've got an old ball, it looks, and people say, God, you've got five wickets with this. That's unbelievable. It's like a dog's chewed it. But you'll get your old one. you got it when it was new
Starting point is 00:33:18 got your wickets when it was new yeah so if you if you took Fifer with the new ball would you keep the old ball no keep the new ball if I got a wicket with the old ball all right what about one and four
Starting point is 00:33:33 so you got four with the new one one with the old one yeah probably the new one this is really I've not even thought about this I've never even thought about it we don't get these opportunities because we don't play much test cricket
Starting point is 00:33:45 so I've never I got to keep a red ball. So I was just wondering. Have you not got a test match five for? I thought you did. No. Neither have I. Never played test cricket.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Anyway, what's it like being the best Seamer in history? And was it always a goal or did it just sort of happen? I don't actually see myself as that. I think what I've done well is managed to play for a long period of time. That's why I've got more wickets than anyone else because I've played more games than anyone else. I look at some unbelievable bowlers in the past and there are currently as well in world cricket so I don't really see myself as the best.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I just see myself as very fortunate to have played as much as I have and I feel like I can, you know, I've still got more to offer as well, more to, I still want to keep playing. Well, no splash you are the world's best seamer. That was such an ECB answer. Was it? That's genuinely how I feel though. I don't see myself as anything other than someone who just tries to...
Starting point is 00:34:48 Like, obviously, no, I'm good, because I've grown up with watching some amazing bowlers. Like, Glenn McGraw, the best bowler I've ever seen. Dale Stain, the best bowler of my generation. Like, there are so many great bowlers out there. I don't see myself at the top of that list. Fair. Very humble.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Sorry for being the ECB answer. No, it's okay. You could have just been like, yeah, I'm world-class, and what? right um you won't know this because you won't listen to the podcast but um jaspit brummerer is our ambassador he's our first ever ambassador for the podcast because he got no balls trending on twitter a couple of weeks ago because he was bowling at you yeah you remember it i do just is it horrendous knowing that you're going to go in and have to face someone who's bowling night and Alan Aaron just wants to hurt you.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, it's horrific. Like, my batting has gone so downhill in the last five years. That was never good, but I could, I used to do Night Watchman, used to get the odd 20 or 30, even got a 50 ones. But since, like, the last few years, I don't get one ball pitched up, might get the odd yorker, the rest of it is just, there's a short leg, there's a flipping leg gully,
Starting point is 00:36:06 slips everywhere. And it's just, yeah, it's, It's a matter of survival for me now. If I come off the pitch unscathed, that's a successful innings for me. Right. From number 11 to number 11, why have you got worse and not better then? I think because people just like figured me out. My strength is spin, very rarely face spin anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Because they can't bounce you. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, I just, I've no answer for the short ball. If I could pull or hook, then great. Then I've got an option, but I can't. Do you not practice that? I'm praying that the Australian battery of fast bowlers aren't listening to this because... Yeah, they tune in weekly, actually.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I can't guarantee. They know I can't bat anyway. They're going to bounce me out of this. You've got some time off, though, why don't you get in the indoor school, getting the fast lane at Old Trafford, get on the bowling machine. Ben, I'm sure he'll serve the balls for you. Get practicing you pulling and hook in. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I mean, that's worse than actually. the bravery that you need to bat, I think I'd rather save it for the game rather than waste it in the nets. That's my theory. That makes sense. Rather than getting peppered by, I think bowling machine balls hurt more than cricket balls. Yeah, they do. They're awful.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Never practice. You get the little pimple marks as well. It's not a seam mark. It's like little dots on your body. It's awful. Right. No balls questions. We ask everyone of our guests these questions.
Starting point is 00:37:35 What is your best moment? on a cricket field. Well, after discussing all that about my batting, I think getting 50 in a test match. I love that. You actually got like 80 odd, didn't you? I got 81, yeah. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:49 so I got in at T, 81 not out, not even thought about getting 100, and it even crossed my mind. And then Matt Pryor came up to me and said, only 19 more for 100. Oh, no. Nicked off the first ball after T. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah. But I say either that or, winning the ashes in Australia in 2011. Was that the sprinkler ashes? Was, yeah. Yeah, good ashes. But we won three-one. And then we won the last test at Sydney
Starting point is 00:38:19 and we all sat on the outfield having a beer at the SCG kind of just having a chat and discussing the tour and stuff like that, which I thought was really special. Okay, flip that, what's your worst moment on a cricket pitch? We've got a few, I think. The issue with batting 11 is, or one of them, is that you generally, if you're batting last and you lose the game, you're the one getting out.
Starting point is 00:38:44 You feel like you're letting the team down. You've got to shake the opposition's hand, exactly. So that's not great. But one thing that came straight into my head then was my first ever ball as a professional cricketer was for Lancashire second team at Blackpool. And I was a bit nervous. I was running in.
Starting point is 00:39:03 As I was running in, I lost my run up a little bit. started stuttering my legs were a little bit jelly-like as I've tried to take off my back foot went through off stump and I've just so I've cleaned up the stump at the wrong end and fallen on the floor that is pretty embarrassing and Ian Gould Gunner was umpire
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm really sorry I'm really sorry oh you just really nervous you didn't let the ball go I didn't let the ball go now oh that could have been worse than you could have hurt someone true than yourself yeah I'm just picturing you doing that. Your best teammate, your favourite teammate.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I think my best mate that, I think Alistair Cook's probably sort of the best teammate who's then the best mate after cricket sort of thing, outside cricket. Guys in the dressing room like Swanee and Mark Wood stand out two amazing characters and great tourists, great to have around. Good fun. It can be annoying. Wokesy actually,
Starting point is 00:40:02 Wokesy put Woody as his least favourite. because he's so annoying. Yeah, but I like that. I like seeing how much he annoys everyone. I get kicks out of that watching everyone else. They just can't take, because he's literally 100 miles an hour every minute of the day until he gets to about like half seven and then just keels over.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Like a little baby. A little poppy with the zoomies. Right, who's your worst teammate then? Someone that you just think, oh my God, you are so annoying. There's a few, I don't think I could say a few of them. Go on. They don't listen. I don't know. I don't think there's anyone really.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Like, the beauty of a, like, a dressing room is you can just walk out. Yeah. If someone's getting annoying, just walk out, go to, go and make a coffee or something. I think that's what I try and do. But generally, I don't find anyone that annoying. Well, that was a rubbish answer. Lies. Absolutely lies.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Yeah, I can see you going, there's so many names, but I just don't want to be that person. all right then your favorite dressing room and why edge boston it's massive it's massive it's got a great set up there's a gym there on the it's all on the same level dressing room viewing area with massive couches so you can just watch cricket fall asleep nice um good physio room good for great food as well there so i think that's probably my my favorite bit of a step up from yours al from uh from uh well Leicester. Yeah, my favourite dresser in Leicester. Do you know what? My favourite dresser in Leicester? Yeah, it's not my favourite ground. It's one of the least. But I'd just like you get your own individual little, and you can stay away from everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Little cubby hole. Leicester? Great viewing area. What's a change since I've been there? Because it was a box. It is a box, yeah. On reflection, it was a very shambolic answer, but I've got a role with it now. Or maybe it sums up where women cricket, where women played the cricket for like five years. Yeah. What was yours, Crossey? Wacker
Starting point is 00:42:05 Why? Just very good memories there And when You know why It's actually because her name Was on one of the lockers It literally it When we played for the scorches
Starting point is 00:42:14 I had my name on my locker With like a little picture of me It was class So her favourite dresser room Is because her ego Got in the way It's got a name on it Yeah why not
Starting point is 00:42:21 What's your least favourite favourite dressing room Well I've got that Leicester At least favourite I think Australia pretty bad generally because they're underground.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah. They're so dark and gloomy. Yeah, it's just like in a dungeon. And all you can hear is like you can hear the crowd as well. So you're like what? And the TV's always on a delay. So you're like, what was that?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Was that a wicket? You're just on edge all the time. Can't relax. Are you where it's bad headingly. And I'm not just saying that because I'm from Lancashire, but the worst viewing area in the world. Do you know what happened with a viewing area there?
Starting point is 00:42:59 No. They built the new stand. or whatever it is, that ugly-looking thing. Built the dress rooms and everything. And then when the cricket department were walking around, they said, where do the players watch the game? And they were like, oh. So they actually stuck like a porter cabin on the,
Starting point is 00:43:17 that that viewing area that you can't really stand up in. It's like a porter cabin stuck on the side of the building. I mean, a viewing area is key with a game of cricket, surely. Yeah, generally. Last question. Who do you love getting out the most? It used to be Shane Watson, but I think the, just because we always had Nigel. Got out LBW a lot and reviewed it all the time. Yeah, we just always got each other, I think.
Starting point is 00:43:42 We annoyed each other, so getting him out was nice. But I don't know now. There's no one that I really, like, Coley was a good one from the last series, just because I hardly ever get him out. This series is in your pocket. I think just like the best player, I want to get the best player out all the time. That's the best one. Like, if you get the captain or the best player out,
Starting point is 00:44:03 you've done the job for your team, aren't you? Is that another ECB answer? Sorry, guys. No, no. That was good. That's good. I did want you to be like, I hate this person,
Starting point is 00:44:11 so I'm getting them out, but never mind. No, nothing like that. Who do you love getting out in training in your own team? Oh, nice. Rudy, probably. Captain, best player. Best player.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah, Swanee's thing was always, always he'd go into the net and make sure he was bowling at Andrew Strauss. said you've got a bowl at the captain, got to bowl well at him, that gets you in the team. I've heard that, actually. But I can't imagine Joe Rue ever thinking
Starting point is 00:44:36 you're bowling at Mowing Alley in the net next to him, so you're not going to get picked. Well, I never used to ball at Heather Knight. Look at me now. Now you just commentate on her. Right. Every week we do a quiz with our guests, which the numbers may or may not be true
Starting point is 00:44:54 because we've just got them off Google. So if we're wrong, No one will know. You won't know, but you'll either get these right or wrong. So, question number one of the famous no balls quiz. How many test runs have you conceded? I have no idea. Have a guess. 10,000, 20?
Starting point is 00:45:14 16,827. Is that surprise you? Not really. I was trying to figure out how many balls are bowled and then, but I didn't help, obviously. So you got that wrong. So how many test match runs have you scored? 1200? Yeah, no, yeah, that's right, yeah. Yeah, we'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Do you want to give me? Do you want the exact number? Yeah. It's a quiz, Jimmy. Obviously, we want the exact answer. All right, 1,173. So you guess 1,100 and then went 1,100. And 73?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Incorrect. You were closer with your first answer. 1,249, which means you actually owe the ECB 15,578 runs. so would you rather pay 10 pound a run or score or play until you score them all I'd rather play to score them all you've got a face bummer though still rather play to a frog chasing you right you got that wrong next question is your right you got to concentrate for this is your international T20 batting strike rate higher or lower than your test match bowling strike rate
Starting point is 00:46:25 lower? Correct. Yes. Your international T20 batting strike rate is 50 and your bowling strike rate is 56.33. Buzzing with that.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I was like, yeah, that's quite good. I thought it'd be like 30 odd. You've only scored one run. Oh. Set in like 18 games or something? Yeah. I suppose you don't bat much in T20. No.
Starting point is 00:46:50 If you're batting in a T20 your teams let you down, aren't they? Right. You are number one in the world but what for? This isn't going to be a good thing, is it? No, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Can I have a clue?
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's to do with bowling, so it's not a bad thing. You've needed help for this one. You've not done it on your own. What? Jesus Christ, Jimmy. These listeners are going to be bored. This could be absolutely anything, couldn't it? Yeah, it could.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And you're probably going to get it wrong. I'll go with most dismissals with another person. With who? Alice to Cook. Okay, Neil, you are number one in the world for the most wickets taken by a wicket keeper with 178. Brilliant. Congratulations. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'm delighted with that. Right, last question. We're boring you, I think. How many innings was it, how many innings was it before you got your first duck? 57. Oh, you're not that good. 54. What is it?
Starting point is 00:47:55 54. 54. That's really impressive. I should have known that. Should have. Especially when your career highlight is to do with your batting. Exactly, yeah. Well, I think you got one right in all of that.
Starting point is 00:48:08 They were all questions or give me some questions that I can actually answer like about football or something. On a cricket podcast. Right. We're done. Thank you very much for coming on and taking a whole half an hour out of your day because you were late, so we didn't get an hour. I'm really sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:48:26 But thanks for having me on. I enjoyed it. Thanks for coming on. We'll see you for the nobles, tail enders crossover. Get in that watchbook and find out who hates us. I'll give the lads a nudge and, yeah, we'll sort it out. Heard that before. Not happening.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Good luck with your golf this next month. Thank you. Thanks, Jimmy. Bye. Cheers, guys. See it. I mean, Al, we, I don't know how we do it sometimes, but we have just got the best
Starting point is 00:48:56 seam bowler ever on this podcast like how have we managed oh and Jimmy was on here as well yeah thanks for being on the podcast crossy I don't know how we do it because we've done it ourselves
Starting point is 00:49:11 had no help again thanks to BBC I mean actually thanks because they set up listening for us so cheers but he was great he was very Jimmy wasn't he when when people give him the grumpy northerner tag. You can kind of understand why
Starting point is 00:49:28 because there's not a lot of enthusiasm that goes into him. But I think he enjoyed it. I hope so. We'll see if he messages saying thanks and if we don't hear from him again then he didn't enjoy it. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And hopefully if he gives us a little retweet that'll be helpful. That, oh, think of the followers. But I've got a quick question. Would you rather get chased by a frog whilst playing cricket or have to face Jasbet bummer? I mean, if the frog
Starting point is 00:49:54 catches up with me, I die, so I would rather face Jaspic Brummer. Yeah, but if Jasbitt Bumra balls at you, you probably die anyway, because he's hitting you in the throat. Yeah, no, I'd rather face him and just hope that he balls outside the leg stump or something. Yeah, because that is probably what he would do. Yeah, just
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