Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - Remember the name!

Episode Date: July 27, 2021

Kate and Alex are joined by Carlos Brathwaite - T20 World Cup winner, commentary superstar and fellow Manchester Original. And yes, he does talk about the Shipping Forecast...

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Hartley Falls. Down the track comes scoring. This time she connects. It's either six or out. It's six. Hello and welcome back to No Balls to Cricket Podcast with me, Alex Hartley. Don't work. And you?

Kay Cross. Alex Hartley. We had to share that because we didn't know whose turn it was to open the podcast, so that was a shambles. Well, do you know what, Prasie, while we're talking about it? About the shambles. Yeah, this is our sixth week with the BBC. God, it's flown, hasn't it?

Absolutely flown. Hasn't it? Not for Henry. Yeah. Poor Henry Moran. Every time we recorded the BBC, something goes wrong. But it's not, I genuinely don't think it's our fault, except for the time that you were banging the mic around and he hated you for that.

But the episode last week with Harlan, and was so, so brilliant. Yeah. And we listened back to it and it was great and she did great because, you know, she's not that confident with her English but she agreed to come on. And halfway through it, it just starts going, and you couldn't hear a thing.

It was, I don't know what happened. It was Phil Salt's fault. It was Phil Salt's fault. Because it was all fine until he walked in the room. He's got bad energy. Bad, bad, upset when he bats because he did really well the other night. And he's coming on the podcast. Yeah, so we'll just forget about it.

I'm sure he won't listen to this. So we're really sorry. about that little bit in the middle of Harmon's episode where it sounded like we're in a public toilet. Yeah. Yeah, we just changed our setting, didn't we? I think people forgive us because we do call ourselves the Village podcast and the Shambles podcast. Our WhatsApp group is called the Shambles podcast with Henry and it. Exactly. And gone of the days where we've got just a phone between us. Yeah. We've got an egg shell things glued to the wall. And doveys up. Even our guest this week just said how professional this set up is. Because we were like, we're at our

Strapard, in the commentary lounge. And Henry had to come and set it up so that we can't mess this one up. So hopefully this will sound amazing. Yes. Anyway, how are you? I'm all right, thank you. I'm a little bit sad that we lost our first two games. However, this is a long tournament.

Tournament cricket changes very, very quickly. We probably need to talk about the tournament before we start talking about the results of it. But I'm all right. How are you? Yeah, it's been a long day for me today, hasn't it? Has it? Yeah.

My alarm went off this morning and I didn't know where I'm. was or what I was doing. I'm just really tired, obviously really busy, burning the candle at both ends, playing, commentating. You're up and down the country, aren't you? Up and down the country, but I have just checked my calendar, and it's giving me a bit

of energy because I've got two days off next week. Nice. So completely off, and I wouldn't go into lying bed and do absolutely nothing. Nice, nice. That was me yesterday, actually. It was the first day off I've had for a while, and I just slept. I ended watching cricket because I'm a badger, but caught up on my

time. You weren't in the flat, I just got to lie on the sofa, sleep, and then I was asleep for a quarter past nine last night. I love that. I love that. Right, before we talk about our sticky notes and what we've got on the 100, blah, blah, blah, blah. We've had a couple of emails

and a couple of message on social media saying, you never spoke about Sophie Eccleston's alarms. Yes. It's an LBW though, isn't it? I know, but I don't think, because we've got a guest this week, we're not going to have time for LBWs. Let's get it out the LBW section first.

Oh, wow, throw it in there. Change it up. How is that? If I'm bowling, not out. Not out. So we touched on this in Harmon's episode And we said it really freaked us out But Sophie said

In fact, should I play the voice note? Do you reckon you'll be able to find it? Yes. I think I starred it for this very reason. Okay, excellent. Because the voice note came from Sophie But it was actually Maddie Villiers speaking. Crossie, we might have a little bit weird comment for you.

So we was just talking about like tomorrow and waking up tomorrow and so it's like working back from when we're leaving so we're like right okay leaving at this time breakfast at this time it takes me 15 minutes to get ready she's like okay so I'll set an alarm for 5 past 8

I was like what 5 past 8 why you set an alarm for 5 past 8 surely you'll just set your alarm for 8 o'clock like I have my alarms and I won't add a new one I'll just edit my alarm and then so I've got three alarms on my phone so if it goes onto her phone and she's got this is no

joke, she's got an alarm for literally every minute of the day. So starting from one minute past midnight, or it might be like one o'clock it starts from going throughout the whole day and her last alarm finishes at 11.58pm. I mean, so she literally has 1pm, 1.5pm, and she just scrolls down and puts one on. She then screen recorded her phone for me to show, because I was like, surely that's an exaggeration. And the video, honestly, there is an alarm set for every minute of the day. 610, 615, 620, 6407, 70, 640, 7.75. 718. Why are you having an alarm for 718? There was three at 8.10 then. And then in 812. We're in the 9s. We're still going. Still scrolling.

So, 37 seconds that video was of her scrolling in her alarms. And apparently her boyfriend does it as well. Weird. So weird. I'm a three alarm person. I've got a few. I'm probably like a 10. Oh, that's random. Yeah. It's, um, do you know what? My alarm schedule is very much where I'm at in life and if my life is a shambles or not. So I've got quite a few because my life's a shambles, but I've got one here for 729 and I don't know when that was from. So I have three. I've got my basically my airport alarm, you know, the dead early one. If you've got to be somewhere dead early, that's the really horrible sound that wakes you up because you don't want to miss your alarms. I've got that one. I've got my normal alarm that's

set for every day and then I've got my nap alarm for the afternoon. So if I want to wake up at four, I've got Monaple on. Nice. So, yeah, I think we're going to, I think this is going to divide the public. Henry's showing us his. Oh, my God, he's got, he's got all the numbers. He's scrolling and scrolling and scrolet. What he's wrong with, psychopaths?

Speaking of psychopaths. Psychopath. All of you who do that, you're all psychopaths. But we have been blown away because we played at the Oval on Wednesday in the first game of the 100 and how many people spoke about the podcast. How many people were shouting. the crowd about the nobles cricket podcast honestly amazing people like literally throwing our water bottles out of us and waving our water bottles so i decided to come up with a hashtag a bit like

the tail enders of the world united takeover which is far too long far too long so we've got psychopaths on tour so guys if you tweet us if you instagram us hashtag psychopaths on tour and we will look and see it we will we need to talk about the hundred now because we've got a guest on we do Before we talk about it, do you want to just talk about it? Or do you want me to talk about it? Is it something to do with being the first to do something? Yes, it is, Kate.

I was the first person to lose a toss. I actually won it. I was the first person to win a toss in a hundred. No, I went out to bat, Al, and I was the first player ever in the history of the 100 to whack a six. I mean, how good. I actually stood up and cheered, and everyone was like, you lose her.

I was like, the biggest fan right now. I didn't know it was the first six. I was just like, we need to get some runs here. So I was like, whack this girl out the ground. So good. You have made history. Yeah. Not once, not twice, not three times.

We actually broke quite a lot of records. A lot of first, wasn't that? A lot of first. First team to lose a game of the 100. Yeah. First team. To lose two consecutive games in the 100. We were actually for 24 hours.

We had, no, yeah, we were. For 24 hours, we had the highest total posted in the 100. in a women's fixture first wicket taken first wide bowled or also who starts a tournament with a wide

yeah come on but your six incredible hit was it over long on long on it's gone 10 metres

over the boundary got called a four did it it got called was that by Sue yeah bloody hell no it wasn't Sue

because you bowled from her end anyway yeah it got called for yeah it got called a four yeah it got called a four speaking of Sue

I did something bad didn't I another first The 100 actually. Yep. You did it in the big bash? Yep. You wanted to carry on the legacy.

I didn't mean to. You bowled a no ball. First front foot no ball of the tournament at Sue Redfern's end and she had to shout, No ball! And I was at final leg and I was like, the cricket podcast. You said that there's a little clip. We'll clip it up actually and put it on social media, but when I, because I took two wickets and two balls, just dropped that in there.

And in the middle of it, they played all of the clip and you, You can hear you going, Sue, you just wanted to shout it, didn't you? You just wanted to shout, no balls, a cricket podcast. She was like, girls, will you keep it professional, please? Like, it's being crossy, was nothing professional about us. But that, how amazing was that opening game? It was incredible, wasn't it? I've never, genuinely never experienced anything like that before in my life.

I haven't. It was, it was the best, one of the best days of cricket in my whole entire life. Just the fireworks. I got goosebumps. Like, when the fireworks went off, there's actually a clip of ML, I'm going, oh, my God. Because it was incredible.

And I feel like we were put under quite a lot of pressure because we were the guinea pigs. Everyone in the world tuned in, well, it felt that way, to tune into, more out of curiosity probably than anything. But I was just so desperate for a good game of cricket.

I thought if this is a bad game of cricket, the whole tournament could start off really badly here. And we managed to deliver an incredible game. It's a shame we lost, but I've said on comms and in interviews, I've never been prouder to lose a cricket game. Yeah, it was odd, wasn't it? It didn't feel like we'd lost the game of cricket,

which doesn't bode well for a tournament. I get that, but it just felt bigger than cricket that night. It felt bigger than the result. It felt like something has happened in the women's game, and it's part, well, it's because of the 100. I've got, genuinely, I've got loose one's thinking about it now. And do you know what's been incredible, support, the people that are coming into watch,

you know, we had 8,000 down at Surrey for the first night. We've had 8,000 here at Old Trafford. Lords had 13,000 people go and watch. And that's never happened in women's cricket before at a domestic level. Not even international because you play at Derby where you can only get 4,000 in. You know, so it's women's cricket's going places and I'm really proud to be part of it. Yeah. And I got a message, we played at Old Trafford on Sunday.

And I got a message from Sophie's boyfriend saying, I saw a little girl in the crowd with Cross 16 on a shirt. Yeah, see, that's just world class. How cool is that? It's just never happened before and it genuinely... I'm actually really mad about that. I like everyone on Twitter

is giving the players grief because you're involved in it of course you're going to big it up and say it's great but I can't speak for the men's side but genuinely this feels like a turning point in women's cricket and I don't know how they've done it

I don't know how there's so many people affiliated with a team that have played twice but it's mental you go around the ground and everyone's got the kit on. 40,000 pounds worth of merchandise was bought at Old Trafford on Wednesday. Absolutely crazy. Yeah, mad, mad.

Anyway, talking of the first night, obviously we lost, it was a brilliant, brilliant game. We couldn't sleep. No, we couldn't. I text you. I never thought I'd text you this actually at 4 a.m.

Say, you up. My place or yours. And I heard this little at the door. And I let you in and we were just up chatting for an hour and a half. Probably an hour and a half.

I don't think we went to bed till six did we honestly the sun came up and i was like crossy we need to go for a nap we're saying off soon the sun came up and i could hear birds and i was like oh we've we've messed this up but you were so dehydrated from that day you ate a hydration tablet because you didn't have enough water to mix it in i've never cramped up so much in so many different places i didn't even know i had these muscles that could cramp i was an absolute shambles and i i was just like the quickest way of getting a hydration tablet in is just to eat it so you got it in well to be fair you were frothing at the mouth i had a tiny i shot it basically had the tiniest but the men are going like 500 mils of water and

i've tied the tiniest bit of water and i'll just neck it and see what happens the first year we signed harm and break go she turned around and she was frothing at the mouth i was like what are you doing and she was like these tabs what do you do and she didn't know that you put them in water and she was actually propping at them out, it's like coming out of her nose. Oh God's sake. Speaking of Harm and Preak, how good was she last week? Like, I'm not over how good the episode was.

Yeah, it was amazing. It was so good. Spuds. She said she'd come on again. Did she? Yeah, amazing. She loved it that much. We've got so many people lined up, haven't we?

But also, a lot of traction for Ellie's song on social media. Yeah. That went down so well. It did. Right, there were a couple of things I want to do because we've got a guest. But I want to like just get a few things in because it feels like more than a week since we did the last podcast, doesn't it? I think we should do something for the 100 that is monumental. Oh God, what like? Streek. There's been a lot of streakers in the 100. What's this about guys? It's going to be a family.

Guys grow up. Yeah, literally. Something's happening in our changing room cross. Yes, it is. There's a prankster. There is, isn't there? And we don't know who it is. No, we don't. But they keep putting toy animals in people's shoes. It's odd, isn't it?

I went and put my trainers on the other day after training, and there was a dinosaur. And I thought it was a frog, and I absolutely pooed my pants. Yeah, I went to get my towel off the towel rail, and I had a T-Rex. We don't know who's doing it. And it's annoying me, and everyone thinks it's me because I'm known as being the prankster, but it's not me.

Everyone does think it's you. I know it's not you. How do you know? Because I think I know you well enough to know it's not you. I don't think I'd be able to keep it secret long enough either. No. So somebody is putting toy animals, but I think we should start putting them in the bloke's changing room.

Well, shh, we won't tell anyone. It happened. But yeah, it's a good little prank actually because it's not harming anyone, but it's getting the dresser room talking. It started off with Lizelle getting. in a zebra put in her place at the Oval. Yeah, Marty. Is that what she called that?

Yeah. Nice. I'm not named mine. I'm going to call my spud. Spud the dinosaur. Right, I just quickly, before we do some questions from the public. I feel like I'm interviewing you today. It's because you've not got your sticky note.

You've forgot your laptop. No, I'm very unorganized. We need to say a massive, two things, sorry, a massive happy birthday to our biggest fan. We've got too many. Who's our biggest fan? Jane Boyce. Jane Boycey 60. Wow.

Happy birthday, Jane. Happy, happy birthday. What an absolute belter. So she's such a fan of Pod. We got her a birthday present, but we can't tell her because she might get it before a birthday. Yeah, okay, right, we won't tell. We hope you enjoy it.

For anyone that, well, no one will know, Jane Boyce is Boise's mum. Yeah, Georgie Boise's mum. Yeah. Boisey with the fringe. Boyce's mum. Boyce's mum. Boisey with the fridge. You made me laugh today at cricket training.

Oh, what did I do? Yeah. We were just sat chatting or stood chatting. And you went, Al. I was like, what? You went, do you reckon fish drink water? It's a question I often ask myself, you know? And I laughed at you and then I was like, actually, it's a valid question.

I don't know if fish drink. Do they need water? Yeah, but if they do drink and sea would be empty. Well, that. But everything needs water to survive. Yeah. So do you think... Maybe they can't drink salt water. But then the rivers would be empty.

Henry, you've got your hands over your face, but give us a nod. Do fish drink water or shake your... No, they don't. What do they do then? How do they stay hydrated? Maybe... Eight tabs. The eat tabs. They eat tabs.

Right, who we're going upstairs with? Well, it can only be the one and only, because you bowled a no ball from her end. Susan. Come on Sue. Get up them stairs. I've got a question. I'm dying to know what Alex got a big fat no to in her final over of the first

game. I had to rewind and watch Kate's reaction twice. It was so funny. It went a little something like this. Alex, standing close to her mark, almost ready to bowl, looks at Kate. Kate, inaudible off screen. Alex. What?

Kate, inaudible off screen. Alex. What? Kate, inaudible off screen. Alex. No. Kate, now on screen, absolute astonishment, wry smile. I think she's forgotten that I'm captain. Can you substitute a player in the 100?

I wish I'd learned all the rules. Calculates rent increase from Gemma. So that's what my face must look like. I can tell you exactly what happened then. Yeah, I know this, but I'll let you tell the story because you're the better storyteller. So it was so loud at the Oval. I cannot tell you how hard it was to get people's attention on the pitch. I was like whistling. You were 10 metres away and I couldn't hear you.

I was 10 meters away from Sue trying to ask for the time out, and she didn't hear me. And I was like, Sue! Anyway, I'm shouting at you. You've hit the girl on the pads. I'm shouting, Al, do you want to review it? What? Al, do you want to review it? There's 10 seconds left.

What? Al, the time has gone. Do you want to review it? No. And I was like, but I was trying to rack my brains on you asking me why I wanted to review it because it was going so far down the leg side, but we hadn't used our review, had we? No, and I couldn't see the angle that you're bald because I was at cover, so I didn't know. So I was just like, Al, do you want it?

And Harmon came up to me at the end of the game and was like, I was shouting so, so much to Alex to say, review it. I was just taking in the occasion, listening to the crowd. But no, I don't want to review that ball. No, well, we can't now because the time has gone. Hi, Alex and Kate. Insert guest name here. Insert secret guest names here.

I've already said his name. Yeah, and I told everybody on the BBC yesterday. I know the result for the first two games aren't what you'd prefer, but wow, the cricket has been amazing. I never imagined myself to be a person who would be yelling, do something crossy at my TV screen, but there I was. The question might be a bit premature, but are there any rules for the 100 that you'd like to take into other formats?

I think the rule about the new non-striker, sorry, the new batter always being on strike is genius. Yeah, I think it's, I think. It's game-changing. Because you do the hard work, you get somebody out, they cross, and you still got somebody at 50 or 30 balls at the other end. I also really like that you can bowl at either end, but I don't think you'll be able to make that catch on in other cricket.

No, because that's what makes the 100 unique. Yeah. But there's been a few, I think the cricket, we've said this, haven't the cricket's the cricket, but I think it is those tiny little rules that make you think differently as a captain or make you think differently as a player because in two, three years of playing the competition, they'll become a bigger part of the game.

Yeah. I've enjoyed it. I think, I was a bit skeptical. but I am the 100's biggest fan and it's made me any doubts I've had about stopping playing in the last four months after that first night I could play for the next 25 years probably get dropped in four months

four hours Hi Kate and Alex congratulations on being part of cricket history last week and hope your 100 win is just around the corner however sometimes it is the little things that matter the most even after Kate's post-match media commitments at the Oval she was still happy to come and chat to me just a simple supporter, even though it was probably the last thing in the world that she wanted to do at the time.

Like most people, of course, I love the podcast, and especially Kate's openness about her mental health. It's been an inspiration to people like me. The podcast helped me personally through the really tricky time I was having because it did the one thing. It needed to do more than anything else. It made me smile again. You both help me without knowing it, and I know I won't be the only one. Best wishes to you both and the originals. Third time has got to be lucky, hasn't it?

Will. I've got goosebumps. That's so nice. anyone else wants to send us lovely emails like that just we'll we'll read them out and big ourselves up I think it's time to you I think it's time come on then let's introduce this week's can you remember the name can you remember the name remember the name okay Hartley it is my pleasure to introduce what I think is going to be one of our best guests to date. We have got T20 World Cup winner, but most importantly, Manchester Originals

overseas player Carlos Brathaway. Welcome to No Bulls the Cricket Podcast. I should probably say, remember the name. Yeah. You beat me to it. Right. So, everybody, I thought that Carlos Brathway hit a six to win the T20 World Cup final back in 2016, stood there with his arms in the air and just went, remember the name. Yeah, I'm not, I could be arrogant at times, but that is a whole new level. When I heard, I was like, what? That was Alex's first impression of you.

You got a lot to come back from now. This arrogant prick. Hopefully, hopefully a couple of interactions that we had would admit that she doesn't still think that I am that arrogant. No, no, not at all. Well, we have asked you if you now take a wicket or hit a six to go onto the stunt mic on the 100 and go, remember the name?

Just people over the stump, remember the name. Yeah, I do apologize about that. We discussed it for about an hour the other night, didn't we, after your win? And I was like, I'm so sorry. What, I start to meet in you as well, thinking that that was. You'll learn that about Alex. You know about cricket, don't you? But you don't know about cricket.

Like, I watch a lot of cricket because obviously it's my job to commentate, do the podcast. But when you don't really pay attention. Do you play as well? Yeah. Every once in a while. Every once in a while. every now and then do fine leg to fine leg

thanks crossy right Carlos we can't have you on the podcast without talking about the remember the name moment I'm sure you've spoken about it so many times in the last five years but that over to Ben Stokes

can you talk us through it to be honest and both of you play so you know that moment when everything just clicks you're like super intuned with what's happening around you you can see the ball

as big as the breadfruit well for the English as big as a beach ball and yeah I remember just hoping Marlon Samuels got a single off the last ball CJ nailed a yorker and I was like look up at the scoreboard and saw 19 or 6 and I was like whoa like this is

a lot yeah there's a lot and then Marlon just like just swing and I was like yeah that's solid information good advice and I was thinking like just gate in the year even if I get caught Marlin is on strike he can bring it home because he's the coolest man

under pressure ever and then yeah he swing the first one and he went for six and at that point in time it was just like all right stayed clued in

like you know still on it still watch the ball and Marlin was like running circles wrong they stump you know Marlon and Stokes he got a bit of history

and then the second one hit that one clean that went miles and then it was like Did you clear the stadium at any stage? Nah, cockada too massive But that one

Come out of the screws But then, like It was still in the moment I was still like You got a few runs But job not finished And then the third one Absolutely shanked it

Was looking mid-on Realise it went long off Was blowing it to go over The hamping It dropped over And it was like good So then at that point in time Then after the first

Three sixes They had like a bit of a break Is that when Ben Stokes was then like trying to work out what to do? It's a little too late after the third ball. But after the third ball, yeah, had a bit of break. For some reason, I know if the ball was like lost on the stadium, quite dropped between like the boundary board and the stand. Marathon and Stokesy and Morgan were at it at the non-strikers end.

But then at that point in time it was like three balls, 18 gone. You got one run to score off three balls. It's like, nah, you got to enjoy it now. If you don't enjoy it, no, I don't know when you can enjoy it. My missus was up with the rest in these women. They had stayed on after their game. So just like, yeah, you have it big ones, you know, pump the chest and blow kisses. At that time, I could not relax, but, you know, blow a load off and just enjoy the moment.

So, yeah, it was on match, man. I can't think of another situation where I was so focused and so in the game that everything just happened. Because the third one, I had no work going out of the park. It dropped just far enough over. But you know, yeah, and they say, fortune favour is you brave? Fortune favour, the focus then. And yeah, it's just one of them things. Obviously, fourth one, I get that with all as well, but I knew the field was up.

So once you get over, it's a boundary, at least we win. I didn't even realize it went for another six until we were walking around the boundary. Ashley Nurse was like, my man, you know what you now do? And like chucking me and like four sixes in a row. Okay, fair enough. Not bad. Wow. Okay. Got to have been the best moment in your career. Yeah.

Yeah, just the stage that is at in India at Colcath, I think it was 80 or thousand World Cup final. And actually going into that game, I was wondering if I'd play because I'd been bowling okay but I wasn't getting wickets. And I was just doing a job for the team. And I was just thinking, like, I probably had one knock before Darry brought the game.

home against South Africa and then won against Afghanistan really didn't bring it home and it's just like if there is a change to be made your name could be first crossy this isn't good for our quiz because it seems like you remember quite a lot of your career you've got good knowledge yeah just because i've been through those four balls so many times do were you so clear on what he was going to do or were you just reacting to what he bowed that day or did you just assume if he goes yorker i'm going to go you know what was your A bit of both because the long side

would have been leg side and throughout the competition we'd watch them close out games him and CJ last four over CJ will go a wide hole

he would go straight and they did it almost perfectly every single time so it only made sense then with CJ closing out the 19th over wide hole

that Stokes would either go full and straight and maybe a change ball of into the wicket forcing me to go big side so kind of haven't had an idea

but I was so focus, it was just watching ball and react. Wow. Teach me. Yeah, I'm going to say. And there's me the other night at Emeritus Old Trafford going in at number 11 going out, oh God, I'm going to have to bat in front of 4,000 people. 8,000 actually. 8,000. Right. Would you class yourself then as a bowling all-rounder or a batting all-rounder?

What I would love to be, I'd love to just bat at 5 and 6 and bowl 1 or 2 o'clock. Yeah, that's the dream job. That's the dream. But I think the higher I go between local, regional, franchise, international, I think my bowling stands the test of time throughout the rise. My batting has not thus far. So I think I got a lot more to off with the bat. I had a good English summer so far with the bat. But, yeah, I just had my birthday, and 33 is a lot closer to 14 than 23. So I need to start scoring some runs so I could bat a lot and bowl a little.

Why don't you start bowling some spin? So I actually had some in the nets. They bow some offies, like Carol Hooper. A nice little running and a little drag with the back foot. And yeah, I was enjoying that. And then they bow some legies as well. So it could be the next Liam Livingston, just bowling offies to the lefty.

Yeah, you'll be playing until you're 47 then. No, true. Might get good for England. You've been here that long. Good shout. So we've got the privilege of doing this podcast interview at Old Trafford. We're looking out on the ground right now. You've had some personal success here, haven't you?

You had 100 here in the World Cup. Yeah, I did. And then, can we see it from this angle? The other Old Trafford. Yeah, you can just... Just about see the top over the... Yeah, that's... That's the Holy Grail.

You're a massive Man United fan. Yes, so... Come to Old Trafford then against New Zealand. So, I don't know if you all remember, but that game started real embarrassingly for me. So first ball of the game Cottro got Monroe bold I think

Second ball of the game So literally we've just done warm up Come outside You're feeling as fresh as ever First ball is a wicket So you have to run from mid-off To the ball to celebrate Second ball

Kane Williamson hits it To the long side And I'm chasing the ball For some reason Not getting any closer to it And I was like You know what Let me just save my legs

And pull out the big dive and I dive, landed on my chest, hit my face and then like just clawing up in my hands got all ear and the ball's still trickling along and I can remember Ian Bishop what's he doing? That was so embarrassing

and then for the next like four or five overs everywhere I fielded the ball just came to me to either save a boundary or save a tool and I was like just give me a break before he bowed a ball it was panting

and then yeah with the bat I think Evan actually I think Evan was a person running behind me and that's how he pulled up, injured. Oh, okay, okay. So then everyone went up once, so he batted at six. We got some boundaries away, but we just kept losing wicket. So when they came into bat, we were ahead of the run rate,

but we lost a few. So then it was just a case of just batting time and see how deeper I could take it. And then we actually got in with a shout. And then the last man came in. Oh, Shane Thomas, I think we needed 40. eight or something like that and i was like could we call him chin i was like chin just run on the fourth or fifth ball yeah and i can try to do the business at the other end do the business i love

i love that imagine being able to get a hundred-fied country i know you won't i mean it was in a losing cause but we won't we won't yeah and then trent both similar chance at lords and he stepped back on the boundary and i was like just do that in manchester like we get over the line so you You're here for the 100, you're playing for Manchester Originals. How have you found it, how you found the environment and the team? Now, it was real good. I think we left the biggest impact was when we got together, female team and male team, same room.

Yeah, that meant a lot because everyone talks about, you know, we want to be inclusive, we want to be diverse. But for them to actually say, well, there's the first team meeting, this is the Manchester Originals. It's not necessarily only women versus men type of thing. And is everyone there's the same franchise. then the gesture with having numbers 1 to 31 and it being an alphabetical order

regardless of man or woman it was like yeah that felt positive number three like that might it meant so much you don't remember

but I can see my name but I was just like oh that's cool I was shocked well it must be because it's Ackerman 1 Georgie Boys 2 so you must be 3

there we go I think I was like 18 or something I was down I was number 8 so there must be a few in between yeah we were in the back And my eyes aren't the best. I can see from any back, so that's what I can tell another way.

We'll find out and we'll let you know. What have you found about the format of it? Have you noticed a big difference? It's quick. It's a lot quick. I think is what T20 was supposed to be. But then once T20 became commercialized and there was a lot more writing on it, you found times where you'd have like an almost four and a half, five-hour T-20 game.

The IPL is crazy. Correct. It feels like an audio almost. And then you've got all these commercials. commercial, timeouts and all that sort of stuff. So I think in the first instance of T20, this was the pace that it was supposed to be at. So to continue to have this pace

over the course of four or five games that we've watched already and played in, yeah, I think the pace is different. And then when you're chasing with the bat, your boys are talking about it the idea. You don't know if to divide by five or have to divide by six. Yeah, we weren't really sure what's going on. So at one point in time,

the oval and Harrison, sorry, and If you were batting with Calvin Harris, it would have been a very different situation. I don't know much batting would do with him. Yeah, so bad with Calvin Harrison. I was looking at him, he was looking at like balls and runs, and it's like, yeah, that's 12 over to a ball.

Then it was like, if it was four overs, 24 balls, yeah, being with a shout and it was like, but isn't four overs. So it's like kind of difficult to know when to divide by five, when to divide by six and kind of translate it into T20 terms but it's good fun and it's good to be in the format and learning on your feet

like every time I come back from a game people are sending me voice notes from home so what happens when this happens and that happens so there's a lot of interest from overseas as well so I've noticed that on Twitter I noticed so many people seem to be talking about it positively or negatively but I think the more we play the format we'll have we won't think of it as 2020 cricket

we'll think of it as the 100 format and we'll get so used to doing the run rates as the 100 rather than T20 cricket. It's just because it's so new at the minute. And to be honest, when you are playing T20, you start to think, or 10 overs left,

no longer you say 100 needed off 10 over, just try to bring it into balls, whereas the 100 just counts up, then it counts about down. It really confuses me second innings though when it counts down because I'm like, I don't understand how many,

like, my maths is really bad. I'm like, how many balls have gone? Like, what's the situation? I'm just going to bowl five and do what crossy says. just bowl the bowl straight please all I'm like okay I can do that you're a pink raffle

yes I don't know what colour I've got in today you've got green in today we're pointing at a hair bubble for everyone that can't see us you pick a colour I'll wear it on tomorrow that same one avocado yeah okay yeah I'll wear it speaking of yeasies and your dancing shoes when you take wickets you are the most

flare person I've seen on a pitch apparently as we learned in Bardi other night. There will also be another flair person next time she gets a wicket. They will. So everybody, these two, Carlos and cross, decided that they were going to have a little crosswalk celebration and they've both got to do it tomorrow when we play. We've got to take a wicket. Got to take a wicket. You can't just start

doing it. So the story is you did the little dance the other night you got your wicket and you're doing your dance and I said what was that about and you said you didn't know how to do the actual TikTok dance. The feet thing. So I I was trying to teach you in the bar, and you're not going to be able to do them with those yeasies on. You ain't moving in them. Yeah.

There's a smart play by me, so you can't get in there. Well, that's the thing. So for everybody that wants to see it, I'll film them both trying it afterwards. We've put an addition. I said, if Carlos does it in a game, I want everyone to know that I taught him how to do it. So he's got to put his arms up in a big cross. From left or right. I was practicing in my room the other night.

I was just like, nah, I need a crossy here. Strangling. Do you practice your dance moves? before you take a wicket. Is it something you think about? There have been times I have thought about it, yeah. But that's just something I did from time I was younger, really, because we got big hip-hop culture at home,

and then you find a lot of people doing moves. And then in dance hall, they're also like set dances. The dance hall is more Jamaican. So sometimes it kind of interlaps, and I always love the Crip Walk, always loves. So even sometimes I will watch a reel, and you'd have like somebody just doing it and then it's just like

crap my screen record so I've always loved it but I could never slide like and I was like so that's my version of the Crip Walk Yeah I like that Is that what it's actually called the Crip Walk? Yeah so I think is

So now we got the crosswalk No we got the crosswalk I get it I get it now I thought you were just being really polite and giving me the name like the moonwalk but the crosswalk That's what happens when Carlos buy 42 tequila.

Nice, yeah. You're also doing a bit of commentary. How are you finding balancing the commentary and the playing? Enjoying it. I mean, it's a format no one knows. So I'm hoping that on coms, I get a bitter insight that I could bring back to the team. But it's good. I didn't know that I would go down the commentary route.

Last year, my agent asked me, since you're in England for lockdown, wrestling these are coming over. what about doing some commentary? You would know the rest in these boys. You'd be able to give some insight that a lot of the English public wouldn't know. Would you be interested? And I was like...

Not really. Yeah. I mean, all commentary is, is just going into a room, slagging players all. And I was like, I could do that. I'm in. But by playing still,

I will want to be fair. I love Ian Bishop. Not only because remember the name, but as... Upda, that's big tick. Wait, no, you should. that. That was you that said that. Yeah, I forgot. So after I told Ian Bishop about remembering him, yeah, he would always be real impartial, but then he'd also

come the next day he sees you or in the gym or a breakfast and you'd be like, I didn't like this or I didn't like that. What were you thinking? So then all of a sudden you do the same thing again in the next game and he's able to say, well, the idea from Carlos is bum, bum, bum, but poor execution or good execution. And I'm like, I would like to be that type of commentator. And then I just started to like get a real clue. I normally watch sports on mute, especially if the commentator is chatting crap. Yeah, when I was on commentary. Yeah, when I was on commentary, mute.

But then you had to actually start to listen. And it's actually like a real bitter art to like know when to speak, how long to speak, that sort of stuff. So I got in the BBC family welcomed me and then it was just like, I actually enjoyed this. Then we had the shipping forecast. That was the next question. You know our notes. You hooked at these notes. So, for anybody it doesn't know,

surely everybody knows. It went viral. It went viral that day. You ended up doing the shipping forecast for the BBC. It's a dream of mine, Carlos. Is it? Yeah. I want to do the, because of you.

I now want to do the shipping forecast. It was real random. I would be on air and then they'll be like, give me the hand signal to just stop. And then you hear radio for long wave listeners. There's something about shipping forecast. I was always like, was the shipping forecast?

So, Alison Mitchell was on, and she was like, yeah, you know, just this, bum, bum, bum. And then someone wrote in on Twitter, I will actually love to hear Carlos reading the shipping forecast. So one of the guys brought out like a little notepad and just like read these couple lines. And then they were like, bra, we love that. And then they actually had to practice and come on and do one.

And it was trending like nine or ten in the UK just reading shipping forecast. Yeah. Well, it was that much of a bigger deal. Somebody played it out there few years. Yeah, so I got a call was in Pakistan for PSL in the middle of quarantine, nothing to do. My agent got the deal over the line to play with Warkshire, or Birmingham Bears is the word for the class. You best. And then Paul Farberys sent him an email and said, oh, when we made the announcement, this guy wrote in and they said,

your shipping forecast left a real legacy with his dad long time works, Chafan and he loved it so much that he got it recorded and obviously in his last days or whatever he was like as a surprise to everyone else there play it at my funeral so majority of people that knew him knew he loved cricket they knew what it was

but for the persons that didn't understand it like half of the people were just like I cannot believe he do it And then at the other half was like, what is this? And they said that's exactly the type of person that he was always wanted to be a step ahead. So yeah, it made me shed a tear, to be honest. It was just a real humbling. All from the shipping forecast.

I don't think my voice will be at anyone's funeral. Mine, probably mine. Yeah, probably. Right, we were doing some research on you. Good or bad? Well, we'll find out. We've noticed that you've played a lot of 2020 cricket around the world.

You've got quite a few teams, haven't you? A couple. Which has been your favourite? You can only pick one, don't sit on the fence? In terms of playing for or off the field. All right, we'll have a playing for and we'll have an off the two. Who's the party team, basically?

Off the field, I think the team that left the biggest impact was Sunrisers because I literally turned up, I think, 4 a.m. or something that I got back to my room. And by the time I walk up at 9 a.m., my kit was outside my door. I'd received a message from the manager, a message from the logistics guy, and it was just like, boom, and I was like, whoa. Yeah, organized pressure. And off the field, that's how they were throughout. And there are some other teams that I've worked with that had that same level of organization, but it blew me away to wake up and have everything right there on my doorstep. On the field.

Manchester Originals. Yeah, Manchester Originals. I would say Sixers or Sinkets and Nevis Patriots. So first year, CPL played for Barbados Tridents, played one game, I think. And then Marlon Samuels said, look, I see you as a young player with talent. Come with me to Antigua Hawksbills. And then the third year, the Antigua Hotsbills franchise moved to Sinkets. And then, ever since then, I played for them for, like, I think four years.

and the the condition crowed and public just took to me real well and it almost felt as those think it was a second home we had some good times as well we made it to the finals in the CPL one year and then I capped in my last year there as well and then probably sixers

those are the two that I would say really stand out so I got a gig to go and play four games we won four they were oh and six me and Joe would then walk through the door and then we won the last four games and I think finished fifth or something like that

and then this year you got a chance to go and play for them for the whole season and we won and one of the things that stuck out to me there was Greg Shippard was the coach both times

so I think it was 2018 when I went for the four games and then obviously 2020 to 2021 last year and it turned up to the first practice game and he welcomed me as you do new arrival or whatever

and then he said something that really stuck with me made me feel real good and he was like in 2018 we were 0 and 6 down and out Joe Denley and Carlos Bratford walked through the door we won four in the bunks as a franchise it just gave us a lift the next year we won the semi we went to the semifinals and then 2019 2020 they won and then obviously 2020 2021 I was there again and he was like they were a big part of where we are today so for him to be able to link us winning four games to the eventual qualification the next year

and winning the title the year after, it made me feel like real valued. I think that always helps, isn't it, as a player to feel valued. As an overseas player as well, I think. To feel like you belong there. Correct. When you come in and young players won't pick your brain or the staff is like,

you know, it's such a pleasure to have you here and what do you want and just won't cater to you. Not that you want to be like picky or anything, but just to know that they are there to help service you if you need it, is a massive weight off your shoulders as opposed to having to come in and think you're not wanted, you're not needed, and the money could have been better spent elsewhere, basically.

That's what happened when I went to Hobart Hurricanes. Not wanted, not needed, money could have been to spend elsewhere. Did you enjoy Big Bash? I loved it. I loved it. I was just not in a great place with my cricket. I've never been asked to go back. I don't think I got a wicket. I guess the only compromise of playing for the six

is the hot pink pants that you've got to wear. I love it. I love it. I love it. It's so clear. You actually got some tight trousers for the Manchester originals. They had to get you a bigger pair, didn't they?

Yeah, if I posted it on Instagram, they would have flagged it for nudity. Phonographic. Right, you've played, obviously, around the world, loads of competitions. Which one is your favourite? CPL, home drum beats first. But I love, I think, I love all of them

for different reasons. So with Big Bash, like there's the interaction between the players and the families, The crowd, which I guess the 100 is trying to implement, obviously, minus COVID rules and stuff. But that left a big mark on me. Like, we have like a list up and like the captain goes to this box, vice captain goes to that box, star player to this box. And then a few of the other guys, we need 15 to 20 minutes just walking around the boundary.

And I remember being a kid and having like a little signature bat or a little shirt. Sometimes your pen doing right and you miss that opportunity. Yeah. So to be able to give back with CPL it's just a big party like cricket happens but the parties

Cricket gets in the way of the party Sounds like they need a women's CPL I would love that And yeah IPL I think with IPL The challenge is always So much off the field stuff So remember my first IPL

I just come off the back I hitting the 460s literally four days later I was playing an IPL game and you gotta do so much media so much sponsorship stuff video this video or that and I remember some days I'd be downstairs from 10, 11am

practice would be at 5, 5.30 and you'd be leaving a sponsorship event or video stuff at 5 o'clock you'd be literally going down the elevator and some of the boys would be coming up to get on the bus and I remember so many days just thinking now I can't make it

a practice and if you're not able to like separate off the field stuff and sometimes even take the level of being rude and just saying no cricket comes first you can easily get sucked into doing this doing that and then not practicing

or not being mentally ready like when people ask you to do podcasts and stuff on your afternoon off and you've got to walk from one side of the ground to the other with your dancing shoes on right every guest that we have on no bolts we do I know you're a big fan

you listen to all the podcasts we know we know we know you we do a quiz with them and the quiz is going to be about you today so i hope well i think he is going to know his stats yeah from what i've gathered i think you're all right i think he's already answered four other questions so question number one oh you don't win anything by the way we can't offer you crap not here for it yeah all right we'll think of something i'll get you a drink in the team room sounds good free lunch so question Number one. When did you make your T20 debut? 2011, Bangladesh. Do you know the date? November. October? October and November. I can't remember exactly.

October the 11th, 2011. So does that mean you got that wrong? Yeah, that's right. So I don't have to buy me free lunch now. According to the internet and Wikipedia, how many teams have you played for? Can I check? He got it right? 19? 19. Good guess. One point, well done.

Who is your only test wicket? David Warner. Yes. How did you get him out? A wrongly wicket. I can't really call it a short ball. Yeah, we'll call it a short ball. It sounds better.

So it was a wrongly wicket, short ball, rapid, and you tried to get out of the end, guided it to gully. Yeah. Love it. So you've got one test, test wicket. It's David Warner. What is your test bowling average? 234 or 243 you want to embarrassingly so

240 days but we have good news for you because it's actually the sixth worst bowling average ever so you're not in the top five there are five people worse than you I play a three test and they always harpooned about oh I should be in a test team my batting average is 45 and then my bowling average is 240

but in those three tests as a team we took nine wickets I think we followed on each and every time it was like 170 overs and you feel bat for a hundred back for a hundred game done end of day three so really you've you've done well picking T20 cricket as your career choice yeah how many deliveries have you bowled in your entire career

jeez what is logged on the internet and I want to say 1,000 How much? 7,414. What? No wonder you're sore at 33. I don't have apologies to my knees.

I've got a question next, but I don't have an answer written down, so I hope you do. How many wickets have you taken out of those 7,414? In all formats. Yeah, including first class wicket as well. So in test, one. Yep, there's one to add. Have you got the answer? I don't know

I mean 7,000 balls you'd hope to take 7,000 wickets I love that I love that I say 500 do you know what

not far off 321 come on Carol that straight rate is abysmal 7000 balls 300 wickets right can I ask this one please you can but we know the answer

who actually said remember the name Charles Brathamette. Ian Bishop, I think he'll be knighted, to be honest. Yeah, he's so good, isn't he? So good. And your final question, how many areas of the shipping forecast can you remember?

Jeez. We need to tick these off as we go. There's a point for each one of these. I can only remember doger. I love that. Yeah, I like doggar. Dogger. Dogger.

They're about seven. They're seven or eight? No, there's about 26. Jeez. I read seven or eight. I can only remember Dogger. Yeah, I could be honest. Yeah, well, if you can't remember any more, then there's no point playing the game.

So was it others? Viking. Viking. Trafalgar. I remember Viking. Dover. Irish C. There's no funny ones apart from Dogger.

Dogger. Rockall. We'll give you a point for remembering Dogger. So much points did I get. Enough for free lunch? I reckon, you've done okay there. You've got one, two. Three, four, we'll give you five points out of eight.

Do you know what? For coming on the podcast and being a top bloke, or would you get a free lunch? So thank you so much for coming on. We've got one more question before he goes. Oh, yeah. So we had Harmon Precour on the podcast last week. Obviously her culture is very different to ours.

So we've been teaching her a bit of our language. Our slang. Our slang. Do you know what a spud is? Stud or spud? Spud. Spud. Spud?

Spud. if you had to guess what a spud is in the English language what would you say give me some context food grilled potatoes oh yeah potatoes yeah

do you know what you could be the cleverest bloke we've had on this podcast you've been outstanding thank you so much thank you came sober that was a proper guess that was a proper guess I'll ask you again then at 3 a.m. After 21 to

that was an expensive round thank you so much for coming on call us you've been a pleasure to have thanks for having me and hopefully we'll get to commentate together at some stage yeah that's only cards after the women's final you come and commentate on immense and then we commentate on how we won the hundred yes yes we do yeah from from starting a shit heap both losing games we lost our second you won your second and we're top we're going to go vertical from now Can I give the podcast a bit of breaking news? Of course you can. So obviously, Joss has gone.

Yeah. So I've been asked to step in and be the Manchester original's men's captain. Yes, Carl. Congratulations, Carlons. Yes, things you love to hear and see. Congratulations. Couldn't have gone to a better bloke. Thank you.

So, yeah, Captain's Corner, crosswalk. Yes, the Crosswalk. Parky will be fuming. He, Matt Parkinson wanted to be captain and get rid of all seamers. All the seamers. So he had Hayden Walsh, Rakeem Kornwall. He was like, all the boys that I've seen

and I love, get them in. Get them in. You'd be gone though, then. I'd be gone. I'd be gone. You'd be out. He'd be gone. Just all spin. Oh, of course, I love that you're captain.

So that means the crosswalk, both captains going to be dancing in the middle this time tomorrow. And you in a few hours. Best of luck. Thank you. Same to you. Thank you, Carlos. Your legend.

Tell me he is not your favourite guest without telling me he's not your favourite guest. Tell me he's not an absolute hero. How good. Oh my God. Such a nice guy. So, so good. So the reason that we got him on was because for the first game at the Oval, we played a massive game at the Oval.

I don't know if anyone's aware of it? This is going to be, oh, we need to add this to the bingo card, don't we? Yeah, we play at the Oval. History makers, pioneers and all that. Breaking boundaries. but he was doing the first game and he didn't know our team all that well so one of their coaches asked if I'd be willing to send like a little voice note on every player so I did and then as I was talking about me and you I was like

we host the no balls cricket podcast which by the way I think you should come on as a guess because this is the return favour and he's like yeah no problem I'll come on so that's how we got him in that's how we got him in honestly crossy we've got some good guests lined up we've done really no help from the BBC yeah I don't know what Henry is doing Guys, if you want to get in touch, please email us on. No Balls Podcast at BBC.com.com.com.com. It's so good. They said it twice. See you all next week.

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