Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - Salsa, Spots and Supermarkets

Episode Date: January 13, 2023

England bowler Kate Cross and World Cup winner Alex Hartley are back together for the new year! There's much to discuss, not least that Kate has been picked for the T20 World Cup....

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Starting point is 00:01:46 That's not a really bad one. Cross strikes in the first over. It's what England we're looking for. Hartley Bowles. Down the track comes scoring. This time she connects. It's either six or out. It's six.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Hello and welcome back to Nobles Cricket podcast with me, Alex Hartley. UK Cross and we've got a very, very special guest this week. We have. Sharon, the massive spot of my forehead. I was going to ask if you've got a. spare microphone for us. Honestly, Crassie, it's so sore. I'm going to have to look at that for the entire 45 minutes that we talk.
Starting point is 00:02:36 That's all right, because I can look at your eye last year as well you do it. Yeah, it's huge. Have you got anything out of it? It's got a pulse. This is the intimate podcast once again because we've... You've messed up this time. Yeah, it's my fault. So I went all the way back to my parents' house to get the microphone kit.
Starting point is 00:02:52 34 minute journey. 45 in traffic. And do you know what I actually did? I went to pick up the stuff. I had a cup of tea and left, and then I had to come back and go back. Yeah, very heartily. Two-hour round trip. I got a cup of tea, though.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So you bit the podcast stuff up. I was planning on coming here to do the podcast today. I forgot my microphone, which means that we're still sharing one. Sorry, Henry. Come close, honey. How are you? I'm good. How are you?
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm good. How's Sharon? Sharon's sore. She's got doms. She looks so. Honestly. I'm going to just take a picture now. Let me just make it a bit bigger.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I don't think it needs to be made bigger, to be honest. Oh, gosh. Right, I've got that. We'll put that on Instagram. Are you actually all right? I'm very good. I'm a bit nervous today because we've got our first live audience. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I know. So I've only gone and invited a person to live with me. And she said, yeah. And she's still here and she's watching the podcast. Did you do that thing where you really politely offered someone space in your flight and they took it and you didn't want them to? Bit like you did with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It can happen. But I did say to feet, I ended up being with you for a year when I said six weeks. so Fee's got till April the first Nice End of the tax year End of the tax year Rent goes up in April And this is the first time
Starting point is 00:04:08 Have we said it's Fee? Oh Fee Morris everyone Everyone And we've also told us She needs to laugh at things That she doesn't find funny But it's the first time that she has listened To our podcast
Starting point is 00:04:18 And she's doing it live She went What's a terrible friend She's like Do you plan it? No Yeah She's seeing the real shambles
Starting point is 00:04:25 So yeah We've started on Happy New Year everyone Happy New Year everyone Happy New Year! I forgot, you're all probably really sad because it's dark, it's miserable, it's rained, but now you're happy because we're back 12 days late. It's the 12th of January and we say it every year,
Starting point is 00:04:38 when do you stop saying Happy New Year to people? Because if you don't see someone to April, technically it's a Happy New Year. Yeah, well, I saw someone yesterday, I said, Happy New Year and Merry Christmas. Nice. Just because I just thought I'd be funny. Yeah, nice. Wasn't that funny really. We think we're funny, don't we?
Starting point is 00:04:55 So that's why it's funny, but... Do you know what has been great? I've seen you every day since I got back I reckon we've had two days off It has been good And they start filming training now, cricket training And we watched ourselves in the background All we do is speak to each other
Starting point is 00:05:09 We do, we gravitate towards each other, don't we? Yeah, yeah How have you found being back at cricket? Oh my God Can you move? No, so last week I did Wednesday, Thursday, Friday Friday I was a mess
Starting point is 00:05:22 Like an actual mess So by Sunday I was all right and I went again and did Monday, Wednesday, it's now Thursday. I was doing sled pushes in the gym earlier, crossy, don't laugh, right? I cried. This reminds me so, so much of when you first signed your professional contract and you came to England training and we were rooming at the time, this is how long ago it was, we were rooming at the time
Starting point is 00:05:48 and you were crying, sat on your bed and asked me to put your socks on for you because you couldn't bend down. Yeah, yeah. Someone went, is it MRI territory? I was like we're not far off We're really not far off I did my 2K today How'd I go
Starting point is 00:06:00 I did it without stopping Nice Yeah I'm not telling people That listen to this podcast How quick it was Was it a PB the way It was a PB It was a PB
Starting point is 00:06:12 It was a PB I thought it might have been a PB If you take two minutes off It would have been my PB Ooh I know what your PB is I purposely I haven't told you This is the one
Starting point is 00:06:24 that you don't want to do well because when you retest in April that's the one you want to smash. Yeah, so it's been a wake-up call. You cannot have six months off. You can't. Well, you can do what you want. You're not a professional cricketer anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's true. Fee actually said, my housemate Fee, said, it's pay day tomorrow. I was like, I'm not even on the payroll. You're just turning up for the good of it? I did the 2K for sh** and giggles. But you've enjoyed being back. And I actually enjoyed running today.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Like, genuinely. And I've loved being back. Well, 20 minutes of it. Yeah. Cheeky sod. Half it. Oh, it's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:07:02 But you well otherwise. Yeah. There is one thing that we really do need to talk about. Okay. You found yourself in a bit of a sticky situation. You've only gone and got picked for the World Cup. Someone messaged me when it went out. Someone messed me on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:07:19 They're obviously a podcast fan. And they were like, oh, I'm just listening to the episode where you're talking about you two spending loads of time together in February because you wouldn't be in the World Cup squad and now you're in the squad. Yeah, you are. Congratulations. I'm actually really buzzing for you. Thank you. But also like, oh, for God's sake. I know, mad. I was genuinely was not expecting it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So much so had some media opportunities that I'd taken and definitely had some flights booked with certain companies. Yeah, companies. And had to bring them on the day of selection and be like, oh. Sorry about that. I want you to tell everybody who listened to this podcast
Starting point is 00:07:57 how your conversation went with the new head coach John Lewis Hi Crossie It's John here How are you? Just to let you know you've been picked for the World Cup
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well he didn't do that He did the you know How was your Christmas How was you new year And you just you know what the calls about And you're like Come on can we get to the point It's good news crossy
Starting point is 00:08:15 He just went So you're in And I was like Oh Have you been the right person And he was like Yeah You're in
Starting point is 00:08:23 I was like Amazing. So, the way you get picked for a World Cup everyone is just not playing T20 cricket. When was the last time? 2019, you last played. 2019 last played. Got myself back into a squad the start of this summer. Did the drinks.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Did more drinks. Kept doing the drinks. Got dropped. Got in a World Cup squad. Buzing. So who knows? You know what? I hope you play.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And I hope you do really well. I hope I get a chance. And you can be like, you should have picked me all this time. Do you don't remember when you're defending? three in a T20. I thought that's no over against India. I think you were playing that game and you stopped a ball going for four off me by having one foot either side of the rope and it actually still went for four.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Right, come on, come on. Sorry. So well done. Thank you. Well done. Which means we're going to, we are going to be together in Feb. Yes. In South Africa.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Which would be fun? Yes, yes. I think. Why are you saying yes? We're. Yes. Yes. I think the BBC announced us. covering the World Cup because I announced it by accident. By mistake, hardly.
Starting point is 00:09:28 So I'll be there. You'll be there? I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. Fee won't. She'll be house sitting. Looking after the plants. Looking after the plants. Yeah, they're dying. I need to let everyone know. I've given up on the old tree. The old tree's in the bin. I've got a new tree.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Oh, for God's sake. It's made out of plastic. All right. So I can't kill it. Can't kill it. Does it look good? Does it look fake? I don't know I'll send you a picture of it later Okay, yeah I put some stones in the bottom of it
Starting point is 00:09:57 So it doesn't look as crap as it did And also when I was buying it Some guy in B&Q was like Oh my god a UK cross And I was like oh this is really embarrassing I'm buying a fake plant Oh, did he listen to the podcast? Don't know, he just knew that I played cricket
Starting point is 00:10:12 If he listened to the podcast He'd have laughed at you buying a tree A tree, a fake tree Slash he would have applauded it Knowing that I can't kill it Always get recognised in the strangest of places Being Q Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:22 embarrassing really leave her alone sorry I keep trying to push her back in keep squeeze Paris Paris Sharon Sharon I I tried to sleep on Shannon
Starting point is 00:10:35 last night to squash her I got to remember my friend's name well you told me that you had a migraine last night and now just wondering if it was that I know I've not had a migraine for years crossy I was sick anyway have you got anything on you sticking out no great
Starting point is 00:10:52 Have you? You have. Come on, read out what it says. It's it. Well, I can't read it out. My credit card pin. Brilliant. I've got a few things written down.
Starting point is 00:11:07 You need to tell us a story about Peter Kay. You had a nightmare, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. Yees. Yees. So, in Pakistan, my mum goes, Peter Kay has released new date. Buzzing. Mom, you buy four tickets.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'll buy two tickets. We're going to see P2K. Done. 300 quid. You, mum, done. Hers is 600 quid because she's got four. I've got two. Quick math.
Starting point is 00:11:34 We're going to P2K. I'll go in last Friday. I texted her on the Wednesday. So have you had your tickets yet? And she said, no of you? Said no. Red flag. Red flag.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Should have been a red flag when I got an email saying, sorry, our website crashed, but they'd still take the money. But I'd just presumed. I got my ticket. Yeah. Anyway, we've been scammed. Because, what was the website name that you went on?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Peter Kitts.com. You went, just try this for me. So I typed it in and it was like, this is an invalid website. I was like, of course it is. Should have gone to Ticketmaster? Yeah. Went back on and he sold out until 2025. The worst thing is, I put it on my Instagram that I'd been scammed.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And someone slid in and said, gutted. I've got two tickets, 300 quid, if you want them. they're probably yours probably bought yours by mistake it's like a thanks but no thanks the other thing that I've got on my sticky notes is I had a shambles
Starting point is 00:12:32 I went out for Friday's Nando's day isn't it with the girls we we do we do cricket we train and then we go to Nando's and I got there and everyone ordered the food on the app
Starting point is 00:12:46 because it's quicker and my water didn't turn up so I was like excuse me I'm just waiting on a spark of water. But you had your hummus? No, everyone got their drinks at this point. Mine hadn't turned up. So I was like, oh, I'm just waiting on drink.
Starting point is 00:12:56 He's like, no worries, I'll bring it over. So it brings me over sparkling water. And then a hummus turns up, I was really hungry. And Alice Clark had ordered a hummus, but she's like, you have it. You're really hungry, so you'd had yours. So I'm eating this hummus. My main doesn't turn up. And everyone has literally finished eating.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Everyone's done. And you were like, crossing, I'm going to have to go here. Like, I need to go home. And Clarkie's hummus hadn't turned up. Yeah. So I was like, oh, no. I know what I've done here So I went back on the app
Starting point is 00:13:19 And I'd not pressed pay now And so I'd eaten Clarkie Thomas Not ordered a meal And also got a free sparkling water From Landos Yeah that was a bit of stinker But did people stay Because I left
Starting point is 00:13:31 I was like, I crossy I can't go Yeah you did I was like come on You've not spent much time with me You were like Oh what about the thunder values The Thunder Way So I've done the Thunder Way
Starting point is 00:13:41 All day I'm done with the Thunder now You were so tired I was like you're here to go You're draining this environment Yeah, be irradiate and not drain Do you radiate and not drain Other thing I've got on my sticking note
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's very crickety I want to talk to you about the Nisa catch In the Big Bash It was a while ago now But that's how long ago We said we were going to podcast And we've not done so Sorry everyone, happy new year
Starting point is 00:14:02 Happy New Year Happy New Year Happy Easter Happy Valentine's Day What do you think of it? Can you remember what happened? Yeah, he took a catch Over the boundary
Starting point is 00:14:15 He caught it in the field Caught it in the field, went over his head, crossed the boundary rope, jumped up, we got rid of the ball, and went back on the boundary and caught it. Now, I think that's okay, but the ruling is he could have done that 200 times and gone all the way around the boundary, and it still will be out. Well, the ruling doesn't say you can do this 200 times and go all the way around the boundary, but the wording of it suggests that you could do that. I think there needs to be a limit on how many keep your piece you can do. It only do so many.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So it's a legitimate catch because of the way the wording of the law is However, I put a tweet out and I was like, don't understand this And then everyone was like, of course you don't know the rules, you're a woman Poor off, I didn't mean it like that, I meant I don't understand how that is a possibility Shouldn't be out really? It didn't look right to me. No, but the thing is for me is people, I tried to describe this on the radio when I was on And I was like, if you think it looks easy, try it on the sofa
Starting point is 00:15:18 and it takes so much athleticism to even be able to do that and to think about doing it in the time that I got a newfound appreciation for it. Yeah. Like not taking away anything that he did, it was amazing and a great piece of work. But it didn't, as soon as I saw it, I was like, that's not out, that's six. Yeah, yeah. I'm just going to go the other way, I think it's...
Starting point is 00:15:37 Of course you are. Yeah. Love a bit of controversy. That's it for my sticking notes. Oh, good. Except I do have some icks that I've written down. I'm going on then. Should I do the X?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah. I've got two driving X, very specific X. People who drive on the motorway with the window down. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Same. Icky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You must be a certain level of psychopath to be able to cut that noise out because it's a horrible noise. Isn't it? Yeah. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. That was Alex Hartley's mouth, not the window. No, no, no. That was the car. And my second one is people who have the windscreen wipers on too fast.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Oh no. I've got problems at the minute. My wipers aren't working. Do you go too fast? They go really fast. Or they don't go home. I can't see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You're in it for me then because I think it's, I don't know why it's really off-putting when people, it's only spitting, but people's wipers are going to. But do you drive and you look at other people's wipers and go? They're fast. No. Should mine be quicker or slower. You do question yourself, but my arm. Mine are automatic, so... You're all mine, but they're panicking at the minute.
Starting point is 00:16:47 They're struggling. They are struggling. Maybe they've got Dom's. It's booked in for a service. Nice. Flat tire as well. Great. This is, that's it.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Done. So we're going upstairs now. No, no, no, we're not. I've got a driving ache. Middle Lane hoggers. Awful. You've not been brought up properly if you were a middle lane hogger. I've also just got something that happened to me today that I want to bring up in.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It's a Bowen's Pick with Johnny Bearstow, who does not listen to this podcast, but I'm going to bring it up because we did, a bit with We Got Game, and we had to do the pass the phone challenge, so you pass the phone to the person with the biggest spot in the face, and then you rock that. I was about to be really nice, but I'm going to pass the phone to the go with the best eyelashes. So you'd pass it to me, and then I, you don't refer to the person. I'm going to pass the phone to the go with Vizaline.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Why, I mean, you've not got it all. I know, do you like that? It's because I made you some really nice rice pudding. Rice pudding. A little snack. So Johnny Birstow has passed the phone to me. So I was like, what on earth is he said? And he said, I'm the person with the worst.
Starting point is 00:17:43 laugh like ever just yeah well out of the people that were in the i need to make you laugh now though well i do have the laugh do you remember in you made me laugh really lots that's a terrible bit of english you made me laugh loads in antigo and i couldn't get air out so i was just inhaling silent laugh sometimes everyone's got a silent that's when i know i'm being funny yeah anyway so yeah johnny bannister i know you won't ever listen to that but there you go have you got manchester originals kit on yeah although i just have had laugh
Starting point is 00:18:13 last don't judge me on that man yeah because see you in the draft yeah at manchester see you in the draft i want to come home you could come home you could come home right we whack something on instagram we've also got some email oh yeah yeah let's do that emails first so we're going upstairs fee pick your favorite umpire fee doesn't really like cricket even though she's professional cricketer she panicking she don't know any umpires Anna Harris for the first time The biggest football events in the calendar is upon us. That is absolutely sensational. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:19:10 Keep up to date with all the comings and goings fresh from the rumour mill with the Transfer Gossip Daily podcast Listen on BBC Sounds It's so good I'm listening twice I read it wrong You read it, it's a long one Hi Kate and Alex
Starting point is 00:19:28 First Time right, a long time listener I hope you both keep him well I first found your podcast at the start of the first lockdown In March 2020 We've got a day one here When I saw episode 8 of series one With Glenn Maxwell on my suggested listens So after listening to that
Starting point is 00:19:42 I'm really enjoying it I listened back to the previous episodes and I've listened to every episode since. It consistently makes me laugh, but also resonates with me on many levels, including on both mental health and on how you deal with disappointment. Kate, your dad's advice to you, when you weren't selected for the first ODI in New Zealand in 2021, has really stayed with me. He said, no one is going to feel sorry for you, only you will feel sorry for you. I forgot he getting that advice. It's so true, and I wish I'd heard that 30 years ago. That's advice I would definitely have done with at that time.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Anyone that's listening that is young, you're only going to feel sorry for yourself. No one's going to feel sorry for you. Certainly not me. You do feel sorry for me? No, I'm thinking of the listeners. Oh. I'm sorry for you. However, over Christmas, that's 2022 in case you don't get around to reading this until Christmas 2020.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I thought I'd go right back to the beginning and listen to every episode again. Is that a thing anymore? Because I think we've been removed. That's my fault. Yeah, it is your fault. you've been paying the subscription from the OGs before we got signed by the BBC and I saw it come out of my bank so I cancelled it and I think it's deleted all the episodes so you might only be able to listen to BBC onwards now but anyway this this is obviously worked um I'm now
Starting point is 00:21:00 restarting season two it's been a lot of fun and I've picked up so much more that I didn't pick up first time for example why H2 fingers is called H2 fingers I can't remember drinking game oh yeah we had the drinking game and Alex's definition of why by a ladies' protector is called a manhole cover. It's something I will never unhear for the rest of my life. Anyway, I have a question for you both, and it's on dealing with sporting disappointment. My 18-year-old son, Mark, is an avidly keen cricketer
Starting point is 00:21:24 and a real cricket badger too. He played through the age groups at our home club, which I won't know, but didn't always get selected because his coach... Oh, I like stuff like this. Juicy. Yeah. Didn't get selected because his coach kept selecting the best players
Starting point is 00:21:37 because he wanted to win all the time. Is that not what coaches normally try to do? It's what teams want to do, in it, win? Or is this, maybe it's like under 11s. I think it's kids, cricket. Not like first team cricket. Can't give everyone a go up the first team level. He also went to college with a cricket academy where he had fantastic coaching but didn't
Starting point is 00:21:54 get many matches because he didn't get into the first team and the coaches prioritised getting the first team matches which left him and others like him without much opportunity to play. Added into the mix is that he's also on the autistic spectrum and his self-esteem crashes when he experiences disappointment of being left out of teams, almost as if the floor has disappeared front under his feet. We've all been there. What advice would you give him? He is comfortable with not being the best player and not being an automatic selection for the top teams, but he really wants to be as good as he can be. I'd really value your thoughts
Starting point is 00:22:26 and insights on this. Well, if he's not bothered about being first pick, he needs to just play for enjoyment and probably accept that he's probably not going to play for the first team. He's going to play for the second team. It sounds like classic club scenario, doesn't he? where you've got that player who bats eight or nine doesn't bowl but they make the numbers up but if they played in the second team they'd open the bowling or open the batting and it's hard to get that balance you want to play
Starting point is 00:22:53 always want to play open the bowling open the batting if you can play a team down I guess from the disappointment side of things it happens everyone like it's normal and I think if he slightly adjusts his expectation level so if he expects to be in the second team and play more regularly that disappointment's not going to be there as much. Yeah. It's a difficult one.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Have you seen who's the really famous person that likes cricket recently? It's somebody like... What did you hear back from John Cena? Let me check. I don't think so. He's been following everyone on the cricket circuit, though. Yeah, he has. John's seen it. No, it's got right down now in my DMs.
Starting point is 00:23:35 He's not even seen it. Still not read me. Somebody like Brad Pitt, I can't remember who it is. I saw it this morning. I said cricket's the best one. in the world. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Hi Kate and Alex. Just wanted to say, congratulations on your podcast anniversary. Episode 1, the 15th of December 2019. Oh, three years. Four years. What are we in a... Four years?
Starting point is 00:23:56 2019, three years. I'm so bad at math. Oh, God, I'm not well. So much has happened since the first episode, but you and the pod are still lovely, funny and as shambolic as ever. And if Joe Root does ever decide to be a guest, just put him straight in the bin. Ray. Well, we've got an idea for that, haven't we? We're not going to tell you, but watch this space. Joe Root is coming on this podcast. Yeah. Happy New Year by the time you see this. Hi, again, Kate and Alex. Alex, my deepest apologies for referring to as a journalist. No offence intended. I just wanted to ask if you had any New Year's resolutions, and if so, have you kept them going at the time of recording of this episode? Also, do either of you support a football team? I'd happily play either of you at FIFA as well. Many thanks, Isaac.
Starting point is 00:24:39 No worries, Isaac. I was just winding you up, so sorry about that. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. I'm not a journalist, though. Have you done any resolutions? No, I haven't actually. You have. And you had one last year, and I don't think you suck to it. What was it last year? Something that you had to give once a month to charity. I did. You did it?
Starting point is 00:25:00 I did it. Wow. And I wrote it all down. I think it was the year before last, but I wrote down what I did on every month. And what's this year's? this year's is to do something that scares me or puts me out of my comfort zone every month you've done this week's done this month so me Tara Norris Ellie Threlkill Danny Collins and Emma Lam all went to a beginner's salsa class that's an ick isn't it it is an ick the people that were there were also a bit of an ick but we were part of that me and fee got a bit of foremost we're going to go next week
Starting point is 00:25:32 you should go you particularly should go because then the salsa has now become a bit of our like celebration. Yeah, but I'm not being funny crossy. You're telling me I should go, but you literally laughed at me when I tried it with you yesterday. I have, what you were doing, I don't think can be classified as dancing. See? It was as if someone had strapped metal poles to your legs, so you couldn't bend them. You were like walking like, you were on stilts and you were trying to do the salsa, which is like the sexiest hip-moving dance in the game. And people want me to go on strictly. You'd be very funny on strictly. You wouldn't be very good at the dancing from what I've seen.
Starting point is 00:26:08 But there's also a video which I will put out on the nobles Instagram where I do a bit of fielding and then I go into the salsa and that's a celebration and you're doing it and then you just realise you can't do it so you just stop. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I was hoping you didn't see that. No, I've got it. I've screenshot it. I've got it. Do you part of football team, sorry? No, I'm not really into football. No, me neither. And I don't have FIFA, so I can't play you on FIFA.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Hi, Kate and Alex. Thanks so much for bringing some cheer to our cold and miserable winter. I've been listening to some back episodes over the festive period and I just wondered if we could get a Tuck-Tuck update, please. Yeah, where are we up to with the Tuck-Tuck? Thanks, Chloe.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Dad has now got the Tuck-Tuck. He's moved it to Nutsford, which is where they're living now, and it's in the garage, and I don't know what they're going to do with it because it is roadworthy. It's got a licence and it's taxable. Do you know what we need to do?
Starting point is 00:27:02 What? We need to get out on the Tuck-Tuck. We can make that our mode of transport. Oh God, okay We need to do our bet as well I lost that bet about the World Cup didn't I You need to take it to a charity show We'll do that
Starting point is 00:27:14 This one's called Cliffhangers Hi guys, happy new year I hope you had a great Christmas and break There have been some cliffhangers in the pods And I thought you could start this year With answers to them Number one, what's happened to Dave's Tuck Tuck? Whoa, how weird to that?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Everyone's on the Tuck Tuck Pact He's got it Number two, does Crossey still push her tongue through her teeth when you smile after the braces have gone. So I'm losing my gap a little bit, but I do still push my tongue through my teeth. It's just smaller.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's just smaller. You have to really look for it. Number three, have you done the charity shop clothes, outfit, for the World Cup bet? How weird? You're in our heads here, Dan. Number four,
Starting point is 00:27:52 who did you send the latex dress gift from an admirer to? We did, we told that story. I don't think we ever said who the player was. No, we can't. We can't. No, we can't. Have a thunderous 2023 where I'm sure you'll be on fire.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Enjoy. Cheers, Dan. I might not be on fire. No. Anyway, that's next week's conversation. Hello, Kate and Alex. First, congratulations to Kate on making the World Cup squad. Good luck to all of you in South Africa. Next, a couple of questions for both.
Starting point is 00:28:22 What do you think of the possible salaries that the BCCI are offering for the up-and-coming women's IPL? The latest cricketer Vodcast raised some interesting questions. about the consequences of such huge amounts of lobby up for grabs. Your thoughts please, Jordan Thompson. Oh, no, no, John Thomas. Jordan Thompson placed in New Yorkshire. I imagine if he was emailing us like, what do you make of this? What do you make of this?
Starting point is 00:28:53 John Thompson. I did what I always do and maths got in the way and I got it all very wrong. So I thought the top Indian player was. getting 10 grand and I was like that's mad small amount of money yeah turns out it was wrong I did the conversion rate wrong I actually think the way that the draft's going to work someone like a smitty for example could put themselves into the will be in the draft they'll put themselves in at 60 grand I think the top is and then she can get bid on so she could earn a lot more money I don't know if there's a cap on the day could go for thousands will go for
Starting point is 00:29:30 yeah she should do she's the best in the world um but i think until the ipel women's ipal finds its fee i don't think we really were expecting the money to be anywhere near what the men was were we it was no the startup i think was always going to be interesting but i don't think i was expecting it to be much more than what it is no i was expecting a little bit more can't lie yeah expecting a little bit more so you're saying money makes the world go around i think there's still improvement to be made yeah but especially when sam curran's going for 1.3 million. But we saw with the 100, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:30:03 It started as it did. And then within a year, they saw the value of it and then doubled it. So it will go up. I think women's cricket in the next five years will be completely different to what it is now. Yeah, I wish I was five years younger. Or five times better.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That as well. I could probably pay till I was 40 if I was any good. This is from Edith, age 12. Oh, hello, Edith. This, Buds and any guest. Hello, Fee. That's you, Fee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Aya. I love, Fee sounds like a fourth-year-old bloke. Aya. All right, I, Edith. I'm a long-time listener, second time, email it. Can I just say, I love your podcast, and I'm always so happy when I see you've got a new pod out. Well, Edith, you're going to have a little surprise coming out soon, because here we are. You've really inspired me to enjoy and get better at my cricket. I've moved up with my team to under 13s, where three of us are girls.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Can you please give a big shout out to everyone at Leighton Buzzard Cricket Club? We don't normally do shout-outs, but as soon as though you've read it, shout out late and buzzard cricket club yep shout out I would like to
Starting point is 00:31:04 what you want to say I would like to add I would like to add Kate you've inspired me to become a scene bowler and Alex you've inspired me to become a lower order sorry no it's just
Starting point is 00:31:16 to commentate given I love to axing and dance Kate when you're playing next with England in England with Alex commentating because I would love to meet you
Starting point is 00:31:26 both as you have impacted me a lot when are you playing that was a question It'll be the test match That's our first game of the summer And you'll be commentating on that Hopefully I'll be playing No, she's asked when you're commentating
Starting point is 00:31:37 And I'm playing Sorry, I wasn't listening I knew you weren't You're looking at your phone I don't wash the bread knife Unless it's sticky And the toaster is on the counter And I don't have a microwave
Starting point is 00:31:45 Don't have a microwave That's like hen growing up That's weird Hen two fingers And an ick I have Is seeing people eating bananas Custid yogurt And dairyly dunkers
Starting point is 00:31:55 Together Sorry, thank you Is that? Yeah, it's the No, I think it's separate. She clearly doesn't like dairy. Maybe she's lactose intolerant. A dairy-le dunker is one of the best things to come out of a service station.
Starting point is 00:32:09 No, it's just, I buy them in it all the time. Do you? Oh, they're a service station treat for me. Do you know what? There's meant to be a treat because I would eat one every day. Do you know what I did the other day, which is really quite sad. I normally go to Tesco for my shop, my big shop, and I went to Sainsbury's. Oh, weird.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And I know I got really excited because everything was new and I didn't know where anything was. like a game. I hate a new supermarket when you don't know the layout though. Yeah, but I enjoyed it. Did you? How sad is that? I get anxiety food shopping. I think that's why I never go.
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's why you spy off daryly done. Because do you know what I do is I get a basket and then it gets really heavy and I'm having to like rest it on a thigh and waddle round. I should always just get a trolley. Get a trolley, always. Right. The fun stuff. Instagram DMs.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Here we go. Crossy. How was your trip to car. I got bit by a spider. Yeah. And honestly, things have been going wrong since that very day. You think you've got the opposite to Spider-Man powers? I think I've got the spider-curs.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Whatever Spider-Man got, I got the opposite of. Because I can't scale buildings, but my roof is falling down because there's a massive leak in it. Yeah. Who is the more romantic out of you two? You're not romantic. Yeah, but you can't be. No, I'm single.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm getting excited going to Sainfries over Tesco. Of course I'm not romantic. A sad little life I leave. Hello from Newcastle, New South Wales. England's chances in the T20 World Cup? I think we've got a good chance. Obviously, it's probably going to come down to trying to beat Australia. I think Louis has come in and ignited something in the team that I've not seen before.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I obviously missed the T20 part of the last time. so I didn't get to kind of see what the messaging was around that. I can imagine very much what it was, but I just think when you've got a new coach and a new lease of life, you just don't know what a team can do. Yeah, I was nervous because you didn't meddle in the Commonwealth Games and you should have.
Starting point is 00:34:16 But you know what? I don't think you'll let that happen again. But we lost to India in that Commonwealth Games and then we beat them in a T20 series two weeks later. So I just think, I've always said it, T20 is anyone's game. How did you dent your water bottle? Nat Siver. I did allude to this on the Instagram account yesterday
Starting point is 00:34:35 and we were doing some field in practice and she threw a ball and I think it ricocheted off the stumps because of course it did because it was Nat Siver and it then went into my water bottle. What's the strangest thing you've autographed? Somebody's belly in the 100. I thought you can say,
Starting point is 00:34:52 No, no, no, somebody's belly. A larger than life man with his belly hanging over, his trousers. I sign the underneath of it. Give me goosebumps. Sorry if you're listening. That's a nick. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Drawing on someone's belly is a nick. Yeah, yeah. The weirdest thing I... I don't think I've done anything weird. Phone cases. I find phone cases really weird when people ask you to sign them. Yeah. Worst part I get about getting back into training.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Here we go. The training. The Dom's. The Dom's. For those who don't play cricket, the feeling that you get after your first week or session back is like nothing you can describe. Like your body, it hurts to sit on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't remember a life without Dom's. You've always thought that Dom's is a muscle tear though, so you don't really understand. Yeah, true. But then there's something really satisfying about it because you know your body's like changing and working. Do you think fish get thirsty? Yeah, they drink water.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Salt water. They have to. They don't go and buy bottled water, did they? I don't think they get thirsty. Reversing into a parking space, yes or no. Yeah, never going forward. Never. Cycles if you're going forward.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I have a mix and match. I don't have a preference. Oh, what's so problematic about run out at the non-strikers end? with that this became a thing didn't it they were like we can't call it that because it's too many words yeah my favourite New Year's tradition
Starting point is 00:36:34 is you guys saying Happy New Year till May what are you most looking forward to this year 2023 I'm most looking forward to my next big shop at Asda mixing it up I'm most looking forward to fee moving out
Starting point is 00:36:51 yeah I am most looking forward to five-day test match at Trent Bridge with a dukes fall yes oh baby yes hope I get picked if you don't get picked you're doing something really wrong you just don't know Al you just don't know you can't read it oh oh do you buy each other Christmas presents they've put Xmas to wind me up do you buy each other Xmas presents if so what we didn't this year did we this was the first year for a while we've not done it
Starting point is 00:37:20 We normally make each other a funny thing. So I actually came here today to your flat and you've got the teetel that I made you. And I actually really needed that teetail today because on it it says, what happens, laugh. Is that what I wrote on it? Yeah. So I made you,
Starting point is 00:37:35 and it's just basically really bad pictures with me and you. Yeah. Sometimes do each other a calendar. Yeah, the calendar is a good way. Not like a naughty calendar. Should we bring out a nobles, calendar? Give the fans what they want.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Not a naughty one. It's the nobles. We could slip one naughty picture in. Me, you and Sue with the tassels on in December. Sue you up for it. How does I like see her cricket future? I want to see her playing cricket, love her on TMS. I still play.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You just, I'm still there. You've not done your homework. Whoever sent that in? I could retire tomorrow. I could retire. Paul Shaw. I could retire in 10 years. I'm not sure yet.
Starting point is 00:38:14 There's a lot of people asking if we're dating. What's going on? Who, out of the two of you, would be better. are presenting homes under the hammer. Why can we not do it together? Do you know what? I love, I love homes under the hammer full stop, but do you know what I love most about it? It's that moment where they have to walk into the room and just observe and like it's the estate agents. They just walk in and look around and then they walk back out.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Do you think we'll ever present anything together? Maybe one day. I think we'd be really good. Well, we've had our first live audience today so we can start thinking about that tour that we keep threatening. She doesn't like she enjoyed it either. Yeah, she's not laugh once. No, no. She said she was going to laugh.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I can't laugh because I've got the worst laugh according to Johnny Gerson That's actually how Phoebe Graham laughs Before we go Catherine has been in touch And said How are you feeling about being called up for the World Cup Have we not done that?
Starting point is 00:39:07 No but I think we're not done how you're feeling We just did wow, what a surprise I was not expecting that I'm surprised I genuinely am surprised I'm obviously very excited I just feel like now I'm at the stage of my career
Starting point is 00:39:26 where I really hope I can prove myself and get an opportunity to prove myself and if you look at my stats there's really not a lot in T20 cricket I think I've played seven games of T20 cricket for England but my big takeaway from being selected is that a new head coach has come in
Starting point is 00:39:48 with some fresh eyes and they've seen something in me that the other coaches haven't seen enough to pick me when I wasn't in a squad and that's a huge confidence move so yeah, I'm happy. Do you know what it proves as well?
Starting point is 00:40:00 It's all about opinions. It's mad, isn't it? It is all about opinions and like you could go anywhere in the world if you'd have been South Korean you might have played 100 games. Yeah. If there was a coach,
Starting point is 00:40:12 you might have played zero games. Like, it is mad. I'd have never played for England if it wasn't for Mark Robinson. Yeah. and you'd still be playing for England if it wasn't for Sophie Eccleston. Yeah, but I mean...
Starting point is 00:40:24 I meant that in a lot. I don't know why that came out like that. I'm so sorry. That's not opinions. That's fact. That is fact. She is better than you. But I meant...
Starting point is 00:40:32 That was funny. I was cute while you tried. Yes, we got a lot of feet. It was cute while you tried. I meant that in a good way. I meant that you're still good enough to play for England, but someone's opinion meant that someone else came in. And it was better.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And she was better. They thought she was better. They thought she was better. better. She's had the opportunity to prove why she's better. You know what I mean? I'm trying to be good and nice. You might have played longer if it wasn't for Catherine. Okay, it's going to turn into a cat fight. Thanks for listening, everybody. If you want to get in touch with us, you can email us on. No Bowlspodcast at bbc.com.com.com. It's so good. They've said it twice. Happy new year. Merry Easter.
Starting point is 00:41:19 sake. And cross strikes in the first over. It's what England we're looking for. Partly balls. Down the track comes scoring. This time, chicken acts. It's either six or out. It's six.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Seven years ago, I was filming at East London Mosque. When the story broke, the three school girls from the area, had gone missing. They were heading to Syria to join the Islamic State Group. Breaking news this morning, three British schoolgirls are reportedly missing. Shemima Begham was the only one of the girls to emerge from the ashes of the so-called caliphate. I've retraced her steps from the UK through Turkey and into Syria to find people who knew her and to investigate the truth of her story. What do you think people think of you?
Starting point is 00:42:12 As a danger, as a risk, as a potential risk. The Shemima Begum story, series two of I'm Not a Monster. Listen on BBC Sounds. Sorry, that's the, that's the 2K. It's been chesty.

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