Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - sliding into John Cena's DMs
Episode Date: November 30, 2022England bowler Kate Cross is in the West Indies, Alex Hartley is in Pakistan. Two series to discuss, lots of emails to read and an awful lot of of 'icks'....
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And cross strikes in the first over.
It's Waddingham.
Looking for, Hartley Falls.
Down the track comes scoring this time she connects.
It's either six or out.
It's six.
Hello and welcome back to No Balls, the Forgotten Podcast.
With me, Alex Hartley, and you haven't forgotten this week, Kate Cross.
We didn't forget.
We never, ever forget we struggle to find the time.
We did really well to do the emergency, emergency podcast two weeks ago.
And then since then, you've been dissertation in and I've been busy and then I had some time off.
You've been travelling.
You came home for four minutes and then you've gone to Pakistan again.
So it's just been, it's been tough.
But we also didn't want to do an episode when we were tired because we know how bad they can be.
And speaking of not being tired, you slept the best you've slept in how long?
Oh my God. Al. I've forgotten how good sleep can be. I forgot until I woke up this morning.
I was like, wow, that is what a proper night's sleep feels like. I have been so stressed and so rubbish at being a human being recently that I just forgot.
Well, she's back because you've handed your dictatorship in.
It is. I'm going to hopefully be a dictator by December when my dissertation gets marked.
Fingers crossed.
Is it, like, school, like, if you don't pass, do you get to redo it?
Or is that it?
It's done?
No, that's a lot of money down the drain if you don't pass.
So I actually had a bit of a, I say a bit of a meltdown.
I had a really huge meltdown about a week ago.
And it was when I was training with Thunder.
And my sister's obviously the physio there.
So my sister first-hand saw it.
Word gets back to Mum and Dad then.
I've had this meltdown.
So Saturday morning, I get a phone call from Mum.
And she's like, are you up?
because we're just outside your flat.
So I was like, oh, that never happens.
What you're doing here?
Who's dying?
They came to check on me, bless them.
Oh, okay.
They thought you were dying.
They came to check on me.
They thought I was dying.
So dad comes upstairs and he's like, Kate, you need to stop stressing about this
uni stuff.
Worry about it when you finish playing cricket.
You know, that's something for after you've retired.
I was like, yeah, but, yeah, dad, I've got a deadline.
I don't quite work that way.
And he's like, no, no, just stop stressing, stop worrying.
It's really affecting your cricket.
I was like, yeah, but I've also paid like £19,000 for this course,
dad. And he's like, get your head in your books. What are you doing? Stop talking to us.
Why are you wasting time?
Didn't quite get it.
Cheers, Dave. I'm trying, but you're here.
Yeah. Cheers, Dad. You just rocked up and announced what you're up to. Why are you here?
Oh, well, that's what happens when you have a breakdown in front of a family member.
I know. If you are going to have breakdowns, I would advise. If you want them to be secret,
just don't do them in front of family members.
Yeah, especially ones that jobs are welfare.
Yeah, yeah, basically.
Anyway, so yeah, I'm handed in.
I've two and a half years of a master's, completed it, mate.
Honestly, Crossie, you doing that master's was the worst decision
you have ever, ever made.
Well, it wasn't, it wasn't, because doing it obviously difficult
and I thought I'd have loads of time
because I started it when we were in lockdown in COVID
and had loads of time.
And now, no time and just had to write 15,000 words.
But it's done, Al, it's done.
I'm so happy.
I'm so relieved.
I've slept the best I've slept
and I'm now in Antigua.
Yes, right.
Okay, for anybody that doesn't know,
Crossy is in the West Indies
because you've been picked
for the England ODI team, baby.
Rally around the West Indies.
And I am in Pakistan
because I have been picked
for the BBC TMS team, baby.
Woo!
Yeah, baby.
So you'll have seen it on our Instagram story
but the time difference again,
oh my gosh.
You need a master's to work that out.
Yeah, you should.
have paid 19 grand to do a master's in time traveling.
I'm not wasting that much money on that.
I think we could just use our phones.
Remember when everyone just, that was everyone's advice.
Just use your world clock.
Well, we're trying.
So it is 8.57 p.m. here right now.
It is.
I was just looking at my clock.
It says it's 4 o'clock, which is not right because that's English time.
It was actually 1157 lunchtime.
Right.
Okay. We'll forget this in 10 minutes. It doesn't really matter. We're on the same call. It's fine.
We're here. We are here. How are you?
I'm good. I am. I'm really good. I feel really relieved. I feel like I can think about cricket now.
I, like I said, I'm in the West Indies. Not a really bad place to tour when you want to de-stress. I can see the beach from my bedroom.
So yeah, I'm very, very well. Thank you, Alex. How are you?
I am good. Very, very good.
as you all know was in Australia for seven weeks. I flew home for four days and then now I have flown
to Pakistan. Someone messaged me saying, you must be addicted to jet lag. What is your problem?
I was like, well, no, no, no. Jet lag's a mindset. I don't get jet lag, which is a whole new
topic. Jet lag's a mindset. But when I came to see you on Friday, you were like, right, everyone
out now. It's nine o'clock. I'm tired. That's just normal life that, crossy.
no it's not that's jet like Alex
but like people are like oh yeah I was awake at 2 till 5 in a.m I couldn't sleep
I was sleeping half 9 till half 8 every day and I was like this is bliss
yeah but you could sleep on a clothesline if you wanted to
yeah so I slept all the way to Pakistan on the flight we got here at midnight
I slept all night but I'm good you've got the view of the beach
I've got the view of the president's security
but I'm safe
so it's great
you know
I've done
you feel safe
yeah I've done a video today
of like it's just mad
like it is crazy
um Pakistan
crossy is so much greener
than I thought
really
I feel like I could be in Europe somewhere
it's beautiful
really so obviously
there's been a lot of talk
around this tour
it's so historic
England haven't toured there
for 17 years
how do you feel like
do you feel safe
do you feel like
everything's going to
be all right? Yeah, I actually do. So I got here and I didn't know what to expect, like did
not know what to expect. Got off the plane, the airport was quiet. It was like 1 a.m. I was
expecting, I don't know why I was expecting the airport to be full of people, but I was.
Like the fans coming to greet the nobles correspondent out in Pakistan. Yeah, by the way,
guys, you are welcome. We've got someone out in Pakistan for this historic tour. And we've got
somebody out in the West Indies for their tour,
not a historic, but their tour.
Our budget
is really stretched at the minute.
It is.
So, yeah, the airport was really quiet.
We went, got on the bus.
We've got two buses,
drivers, security.
Like, it's brilliant.
Like, honestly brilliant.
Got to the hotel.
I have never, ever seen anything like it.
There's like seven restaurants,
72 swimming pools,
a shopping mall.
It's just incredible.
Oh, wow.
It is incredible.
My room is absolutely huge.
Oh, wow.
I feel like royalty.
So you're not going to be allowed out much though, are you?
It's going to be like cricket ground or hotel.
Well, that's the thing.
The team are very much like that.
They have like massive, honestly, cross-y.
They had about 52 security trucks to take four of them to train instead because they're all ill, which we'll go into in a second.
If anyone does want to know what life on the road of an England cricketer is like, a good person to follow.
is Paul Collinwood
because he puts a lot of like
behind the scenes stuff
on his Instagram story
and I saw he was like
pictures with all the policemen
and all the security men
definitely worth to follow
if you want to see what it's like
so they're not allowed out there
very much
you know a hotel to ground and back
I haven't managed to venture out yet
a couple of the lads went out today
and went to a shopping mall
and things like that
I was meant to be playing cricket
in a journals versus
English journals versus
Pakistan Journal's game
but I'm not a journalist
guys, I'm not a journalist.
Why didn't you play?
It got cancelled because the England team are all ill.
Oh no.
So let's go into that.
What?
Okay.
So...
Good segue.
Well done.
Yeah.
So our game got cancelled because England men haven't been to Pakistan for 17 years
and they've all gone down with the shit.
Is it though?
Because they're very, very conscious of saying it's nothing to do with the food
because they have taken their own chef out there, haven't they?
Well, it's not the food.
this like so i was speaking to somebody in the england camp yesterday i won't name names in case
i get in trouble for whatever reason um and they were like oh gosh i feel like i've
been at training for hours and hours and hours feel like i've been in the gym for five hours
i was like oh that's weird he was like yeah i must have just thrown a lot of balls member of staff
helps um and then well like got back from training today and he's like yeah i'm ill
i didn't know you had brandon mccullum's number i he's in my room all right bazz
You feel it all right?
Just let everyone know that is not happening.
Anyway, they're all poorly.
You might get a game.
I'm ready. I'm ready.
Get those left-arm tweakers out.
I'm ready.
It would be the first time I've trained all winter,
which would be a bit rogue.
I can imagine you and Andy Zaltzman
opening the bowling from either end.
Can you believe I've just called playing in a test match as training?
your first winter net
also guys we need to tell you a little secret
we've just had five minutes of absolute chaos
meltdown
and me and crossy are now doing this
podcast via via phone call
we might as well have pigeons sending messages
to each other because this is so old school
it's so weird not being able to see your face
I did threaten to turn my data roaming on
but all I got off the plane yesterday
I turned my phone on
and I got a message from Sky
saying that I'd already used
my monthly date limit of £45.
Did you know?
I go, oh yeah, I work for Sky, pay me bill.
I know what I was thinking that.
I was like, come on guys, give me a discount.
Anyway, this is a BBC podcast, so moving on.
Anyway, how are you?
I know how you are.
You're in where?
What, we've done all that?
Yeah, but we've talked about England, Pakistan.
Now I want to talk about England, the West Indies.
Oh, right.
Okay, so our first game is on Sunday.
we've got three ODIs, and then the girls move on to Barbados.
Well, the first T20 is in Antigua, actually.
But then they go to Barbados for four more T20s after that.
Get home on the 24th of December.
I can't believe they get home so late, you know.
Mad.
Not me, because not in the T20 squad.
Yeah.
So congratulations.
Not playing you.
For not being in the T20s.
No, you've been picked for the ODIs.
I'm super proud.
And without.
sounding, I don't want this to come
across in a bad way
but I don't think you being
picked for the T20s is necessarily
a bad thing. I've not been
picked for the T20s so not
not being picked you mean? Yes
that one. Yeah. I know
what you mean. I do not what I mean. I think you're right
I was obviously the 15th
player of most of the T20 squads this summer
but the hard thing
is is that we've got a T20 World Cup in
February and not being in that squad now
makes it feel quite hard to get
into the World Cup squad
but then it's that balance of do you want to be
carrying the drinks for that
it's really hard
well obviously you want to be carrying the drinks
because you'd rather be 15th on tour
than 16th at home but I think
where your mental health has been
the last six months
no two or three months
six years
two or three months I think maybe
a little break away isn't a bad thing
and new coaches
is like it's not over yeah we've not even touched on that have we we've got a new head coach
well it was going to be one of either john lewis and john lewis got the job john lewis got the job
so we to make it easier we'll go john one who was original john lewis batting coach from durham
and john two new john lewis bowling head coach from gloucester area so before we get into
all the fun of this podcast i think you can give us an insight into the new
new head coach, John Lewis.
John too, yeah.
So very, very, very great first impressions.
He's been super, super positive.
And I'm not surprised because he's come from the men's white ball team
and he's been working with the men's red ball team as well.
So obviously their journeys that they've had in their respective teams, squads, whatever,
over the past couple of years, has been pretty transformational.
And he's basically come in and said, I see no reason why the women can't do that as well.
Okay, that's good.
And that's exciting.
Massively.
And he's just been,
he's basically just been so positive about,
like he doesn't believe that we know what our ceiling is yet.
He thinks that we've not achieved what we can achieve,
which we obviously haven't.
We get to a lot of semifinals and don't win big tournaments kind of thing.
So I think it feels like a really nice time for that sort of mentality
to come into our game.
And with the youth that we brought in this summer,
it definitely feels like the perfect kind of message
to be giving those girls as well
that freedom of going out and playing
how you want to play.
Yeah, you've got a good mix now,
haven't you, of like experience
and oldies, golden oldies.
Yeah, he said that as well
and I think that's the making of a good squad really,
isn't it?
You think about successful teams around the world.
You do have that really good mix
of young girls who just don't give a shit, basically.
They just come in and play cricket
because they're very good at what they've done
and they've been picked for England because of that.
And then you've got the older girls
who try and help and...
guide and, you know, like a Nat Siver who will stand up in those really tough moments,
you know that you can rely on players like that. So it does feel like a really good mix.
Has there been anything that he's, that you can talk about on the podcast that he's picked
up on straight away and he's like, wow, that needs to change or that's good, that can stay?
Well, he's not really been with us that long. So we had a training camp in Loughborough
before we left, which was Monday to Thursday and then we flew the following Tuesday. So he's not
been with us too long. I said to him, I was like, when did, because he was a
in Dubai with the men's bowlers for prepping for the Pakistan tour.
So I think it was a bit of a whirlwind for him, you know, in terms of got the job.
I had to ask his boss if he could go home kind of thing.
You know, it's not very, it wasn't a normal circumstance of getting a new job.
So he's not been with us too long, but I think there's going to be the kind of expectation
that he's got from the ECB with how the men are treated.
And I think that'll cross over quite heavily now with us because he's,
seeing what's expected if that makes sense oh my god crossy you might finally be treated the same as
the men well just little things like i was talking to him about uh the men's t20 world cup kit that
they had it was a different training kit wasn't it was navy blue it's not what we wear at the minute
and we were talking about how funny well funny i don't know if that's the right word we had to basically
like cover up our own sponsorships in our world cup this year and he kind of couldn't get his head
around how that had happened and just little things like that,
I think are going to get ironed out quite quickly.
Like, I mean, you guys having to actually cover up that cinch was not, okay, was it?
It wasn't and it, yeah, we laughed about it and we kind of just got on with it.
But yeah, I just, I think I saw Heather say it in an interview not that long ago about
women's cricket's in a really strange phase of some of the girls that are still playing
and are getting paid to play now are still very,
thankful that they're getting all these opportunities.
And actually, when does that mentality change of,
no, we deserve to be paid.
We deserve to have the same things that the men are having.
So I think we're all trying to kind of work through that as well.
And you don't want to sound like princesses and whatever,
but you also want to make sure you're able to do your job as best as you possibly can
with the best support.
So, yeah, it's a strange time.
But I think he's going to really help with that side of it.
one thing you're really looking forward to having him a round for go bowling coach i've got two bowling coaches
now out and i we've not had a consistent bowling coach for well other than maca tim mcdonald who we
had for like three years the bowling coach has been very bitty the bowling coach has always been
the one that's taken the hit hasn't it so you've got matt mason as well matt mason's come in yeah
he's an absolute belter um already like loved working with him it's been really difficult we've been
changing a few bits but like really feel like he's going to make me a better bowler which is
very exciting is it like i know the answer to this but for people that are listening that don't
know is it really tough when somebody comes into the environment like so matt mason's come into
your environment and gone kate you need to change this it'll make you better do you believe him
and go straight into it or do you have to sit down and have a conversation and say why well first
of all i don't think he anyone would come into this environment and say you need to do this so he hasn't
He's not been like that with me.
But I sat down with him and our essence, actually,
and I was like, I'm 31 years old.
I've always kind of bowled how I've bowled.
I've always had a bit more consistency recently
with a bit more success.
But I feel like I've got more to give.
How do I do?
Like, what am I missing?
Why am I not bowling consistently at 74, 75 miles per hour?
And he already had these ideas that he knew
because he's seen me bowl.
I've worked with him a little bit in the past.
But he'd seen over the last two or three years,
you know, he's like, why are you not doing this?
if I was your coach, I would have done this kind of thing.
So we had those chats and everything he said makes perfect sense to me.
And I feel like I can be a better bowler with the things that he's going to put into my like program.
But it's just going to take a little bit of time, I think, to work through it all.
Because I've done what I've done for like 15 years.
So it's quite hard to change that.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
Because you have days where nothing clicks and you're like, oh, my God, this is going to ruin my career.
Yes, that's the really scary bit as well.
And I think because I've worked so hard to kind of get that ODI shirt and have that role in that team,
I was really conscious of not doing anything that could possibly risk that.
But then it's that risk reward of, well, if I do this, I could be so much better in six months' time.
Could be so much better.
That's amazing.
Could be so much better and could then end up playing all three formats as well.
Yeah, he said that.
He said exactly that.
He was like, I want you to be the best bowler in the squad so that we can't drop you.
And I was like, all right, let's do that.
Did you say, I already am in test match and ODIs?
It's just I've not been given the opportunity when it comes to T20s.
Yeah, I was like, well, we didn't have a head coach when I got dropped, so.
Good stuff, good stuff.
Anyway, cricket chat.
That's a lot of cricket chat.
That's good, good, good cricket chat.
I was journalism from you, very journalistic.
Yeah, I know, but I just, people want to know what you're up to and how you're doing with life and all that jazz.
I don't really care.
No, and to be fair, we've not spoken that much.
we've been quite sporadic with our friendship recently.
I know, it's been really sad, hasn't it?
I'm really sorry, but the time difference stresses me out.
I know.
Well, January, we're both in the UK, aren't we?
So we can have a nice little...
What's the word?
Reconciliation.
Reconciliation.
Yes.
Yes, we can do that.
Are you got January off or what's going on there?
No.
Hopefully might be prepping for a World Cup, but you just don't know.
So you got January off?
So, I'm off in January.
Oh, I'm only joking.
I'm only joking.
Shall we go upstairs?
Well, I've got a few sticky notes, but I think they're going to be a bit out of date.
So, why.
Yeah.
Should we just fly through them and just see what's funny and what's not from how long we, you know, wrote these down?
Yeah.
How long ago we wrote them down.
Yeah.
Do you want to go first?
Yeah, so we kind of touched on it in the emergency episode, but you've won the battle.
So we need to plan that.
We need to work out what you.
you're going to make me do because England won and you predicted that England would win.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't you worry, I know exactly, exactly what we're doing.
Would you like to tell our listeners or do you want to keep it a secret?
Well, I don't know what it is.
So if you want to tell me, that'll be great.
You want to know?
I think I want to know, yeah.
And I can mentally prepare.
Have you seen this trend on the internet where you go into a charity shop and you will close
your eyes and run your finger down a rail and I'll go, stop.
Okay.
And we're going to do it with hat, shirt, trousers, slash skirt and shoes,
and then you have to wear that for a meal out with me.
Right.
That sounds all right, actually.
It could.
I'll probably just look like you.
Your fashion sense at the minute.
Do you know what?
We're just doing my wardrobe.
Yeah.
Basically, yeah.
Okay, I'm up for that.
Don't turn this round of me.
This is going to be gone.
I hope you.
you get like a pink skirt and like a Pokemon top.
Sorry, Avril Levine.
Pokemon.
The only thing I've got my sticking out is me and you got followed by someone very, very strange.
Oh, yeah, that's on mine.
Very strange.
Famous wrestler, I think he is.
Yeah, you got you something about that, wasn't he?
Yeah, John Sina.
John Sina followed us by.
But then he's followed like Sophie Luff as well, like really strange.
So his management must be doing the rounds with cricket.
I don't know why.
Well, I've then spotted that I've had loads of blue tick followers since he followed me.
And they're all followed by John Sina.
Interesting.
Really strange.
Anyway, what I thought we could do is try and reach out to John Sina whilst we're on the podcast.
I was thinking we could maybe both slide into his DMs and see what happens.
Really?
Yeah, I think we should do it.
What, like now?
I think we need to do it own video in it
so that we can prove to each other we've sent it.
Well, all I've got to do is send you a screenshot.
I'm going to do it right now.
You tell me what to say.
I'm going to slide in.
Hi, John.
John, Sina, let me just search for in one minute.
It is.
Hi, John.
How are you?
I hope you will.
Are you going to watch our ODIR.
this weekend kiss sent i have a podcast no no you have sent it i've sent it hi john hope you
well are you going to watch our odi eyes this weekend kiss oh my god oh my god i'm sweating for you
you're not embarrassed no not at all this is why you get all the guests and i don't yeah um by the way
phil salt is going to come on this podcast we are going to have a world cup winner on this he just hurt himself
so we've had to postpone it.
I've got nothing else on my sticking out.
Right, I'll fly through the two that I've got now then.
So I've got bone to pick with someone out there.
I don't know who you are.
I don't know what your name is.
But someone hacked our Dropbox.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Who is that?
Why?
Why?
What are you doing?
Why do you want to be on our Dropbox?
Because...
Get out.
All it is is the raw files of this podcast.
And you don't want that.
no one needs that
Henry hates them
no wants them
we also have screenshots
of various cricketers in there
randomly yeah
just got pictures of old cricketers
in there
because Charlotte
used to just keep stuff
in there for safety
yeah yeah
all right
leave us alone
stop hacking us
yeah last one
this is a bit of a sad one actually
I saw my sister
obviously
because training with thunder
a bit more
she said oh I forgot about
your podcast
so I listened to it
in the car on the way here
a YouTube
running out of content.
Oh.
It hurt me.
Oh.
But then you also said that we've had an email from someone saying it's gone down the pan
because we don't plan it.
Do you want me to read it out loud, actually?
Yeah, I think you should.
Okay.
It's not nice to listen to.
I'm ready.
My sister's already given me the beginning of it, the foundation.
She's set it quite low.
This is from Danny.
Hi, ladies.
Big fan of your day jobs.
but this podcast is beginning to sound very lazily put together
with neither particularly sure what the others should be doing.
Just doesn't sound like much preparation goes into each episode.
You can't just turn up and do things off the cuff.
Otherwise, listeners will lose interest.
There's so many other cricket podcasts,
which are so much more professionally done.
I listen because you are different,
but it seems you have lost your way a little.
I know you are better than this.
I look forward to an improvement in the future.
Cheers, Danny.
right Danny I'm going to speak to you directly now
I'm going to take your feedback on board
because I must admit I think we have
we've not been our funny selves recently
I'm going to take ownership of that
and responsibility and say I've not been my best self
however we have a lot of compliments
on our lack of professionalism
because there are so many professional cricket podcasts out there
that talk about the same things
and say the same things and have the very same opinions
and we are different we're a point of difference
And that is actually what we love being.
So I'm going to take your feedback and I'm going to...
I'm going to put it in the bin.
It is in the bin.
And, and honestly, Danny, Danny, just turn it off, mate.
Right, come on, let's go upstairs with an umpire.
Let's do it.
Who are we going up with?
Honestly, anyone.
All of them.
Let's go upstairs with all the umpires.
All the umpires, because I can't think of one off the top of my head.
Right, I'll start us off.
Got one here.
Dear Kate and Alex, I hope you're enjoying the break.
Just watch the strikers beat the sixes and thought of you two, who are not playing.
I've enjoyed Alex's commentary of both the T20 World Cup and the three ODIs and thought she was both professional and entertaining,
especially the difference in height between her and when she stood next to some of the bowlers.
Question, how hard do you find having two faces?
One, the professional journalist and two, being yourself.
from the often hilarious Snowballs podcast.
You're listening to that, Danny.
Often hilarious Snowballs podcast.
You're carefree and funny,
which is the opposite of the demeanour of a BBC journalist.
Your 50-year-old Chinese fan, David.
Well, David, when we're on air, or I'm on air, sorry,
and on TMS or the ABC, whoever I'm working with,
I just tone it down ever so slightly.
So I cut out the swearing sometimes.
We beat it out so your kids can listen.
But the podcast is probably a little toned-down version of what the real Hartley is.
And then the BBC, Hartley, is probably even more toned down.
So I don't know, I don't know.
I try and be myself as much as I can.
The thing is, when you go to the BBC, you're doing your job, aren't you?
Your job is to correspond on the cricket, give your insights, be professional.
The podcast is two mates having a chat about, God knows what, you know, whatever lands in our inbox that week.
So there's obviously going to be that element of turning up to work aspect of being on the bebe.
Yeah, and it's, you know, I can't behave inappropriately or do silly things on air
because ultimately I won't get a job again.
Get a job.
Right.
Dear Kate and Alex, hope you're doing well.
I was wondering if when you bowl to left-handed batters, your mindset changes.
As a legy, almost everything is a wide.
Have you got any tip?
Yeah, start it on a different line
Yeah, so just aim
If you're starting it on the same line
It's going to be a wide
Yeah, so just aim
Like, so I'm a left arm spinner
And I will go from around the wicket to over the wicket
And aim slightly wider because I turn the ball in
So you as a leggy will also turn the ball in
I suggest you come around the wicket
And try and land the ball just outside the off stump
I think this is one where you
really need to be clear on what your strength is to that batter in that moment. So for me,
as a bowler, a scene bowler, I am a baller, as a scene bowler, I would stay over the wicket
so that I can try and still target the pads and the outside edge because of the way that
I nip the ball around. Yes. So I think if you're clear as a legy, what your wicket
taking delivery is and then place yourself in the best position for that. So if you need to
come around the wicket, over the wicket, whatever it might be. But just be really cool.
clear on what your plan is because you can't just running a bowl when there's a
different batter there.
I'm loving no balls, the hopefully regular podcast.
Sorry, this is from TV.
Sorry about that.
My LBW is I eat the crust of pizza before the rest of the pizza.
What?
Unless you're dipping that in garlic aoli, that's not okay.
But then you'll be full from the crust.
I don't really eat the crust.
I give you the crust.
Yeah, I get the crust.
Next.
Hello, Kate and Alex, I've been listening to your podcast over the last few weeks
and I've really enjoyed listening to it.
I can tell you're both down to earth, kind and funny people, and your podcast has become
a nice part of my weekly routine and something nice to look forward to during the winter
months and the dark early nights.
I attended my first cricket match earlier this year during the 100, watching the Birmingham
Phoenix play at Edgebaston and I've continued to watch cricket on a more regular basis
since then.
I just want to say thank you again for making me smile and laugh whilst listening to your
podcast and we'd like to finish off by asking what's your favourite Christmas film take care
Adam right also I think a tactic from our listeners is they pretend they wrote the emails ages ago
do you think so this is actually from yesterday I think this is new and he's gone I know I'm
going to pretend it's all right them up yeah I like that what's your favorite Christmas film
I have I have a few are like it's a hard one to narrow down because obviously you only watch
Christmas films at this time of year
but I have one
that I'll wrap my presents to
I have one that I put my Christmas decorations up to
you don't put Christmas decorations up
last Christmas at your house is very very sad
I know I wasn't there though but anyway
I was yeah you were
what's yours
mine's Arthur Christmas the cartoon
and I reckon it's a good one
I reckon I watch it nine times
over the Christmas period it is so
good. It is a good one. It is good. I'll give you that. I only watched it last year for the first time and that
was because you said it was your favourite one. So I can't like. Don't feel like Christmas? I'm not really
in the Christmas mood. Not going to lie. You well, at least you get a little Christmas buildup.
Yeah, true. Hi guys. Another belter of a pod. Did you hear that? Do you want to read another one out then?
Oh, he's not finished. Did I just read the last one? Yeah.
All right. Okay. Yeah, you go. You'll turn. It's like we don't plan it.
Hi guys, another belter of a part.
Hope the dissertation goes well, crossy, and your sunburn heels well, Al.
The commentary touring, partly of Hartley, Moran and Norcross looks great fun.
It made me wonder.
It must say party.
It can't say partly.
Yeah, it says party.
Okay, I'm going to read this one with you just in case.
It made me wonder, who would be in your ultimate cricket touring party?
They can be players, retired players, commentators, fans, even the cold player guy.
looking forward to hearing
who loses the bet
as goes out,
dressed as a
that's a...
That's a big...
P.S.
P.S. I'm loving the little snippets
at the end of the podcast,
Henry has reintroduced.
If you don't listen all the way,
listen all the way because they are funny.
Listen all the way.
They are funny.
That's a great question
and one that probably needs a bit of thought.
But why not get the cold play guy in?
Let's get him in.
We need a comedian
Michael McIntyre
Yeah he likes his cricket
Michael can come
What about Lewis Capaldi
He looks a good time
Yep
Yep
And he can sing
So why not
We'll all be sad together
Chris Tremlet
Yeah
Got to have Chris Tremlet there
Just in case you need any trees
chopping down
and I'll take you
well I think we're already there
me you Hartley Moran and Norcross
well then we need someone to get into
we need someone to get into small places
James Taylor
James Taylor's coming
we need someone really famous
that can help us get like do fun things for free
Elon Musk
oh oh controversial at the minute
okay right no okay he's in the bin then
him and Dan are in the bin
yeah right
I think
In fact, let's take Dan
Let's take Dan
who moaned about
us not being
professional enough
Yes, let's take him
and we'll give him
a great time
Let's combat
that feedback
with niceness
We're going to take you
on a free tour
ring party
with Michael McIntyre
and Chris Tramlett
and James Taylor
And Alex Hartley
Kate Cross
Dan Nor Cross
Henry Moran sounds great
Right
Before his podcast finishes
Crossie
Yeah I'm ready for this
Big I put
on Instagram earlier
I want to know
people's icks right yeah it was a great shout from you it's a trend going round at the minute and
i find it hilarious so before we get into what people's icks are i've got an ick with you okay what is it
i've got loads right but yeah okay my biggest ick with you oh no is your visaline oh don't all that's my
I'm joking. I'm joking. It's not.
It is. She wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.
No, it's not. It's genuinely not because your teeth are going to look beautiful.
I just wanted to be a numpty.
My biggest ick with you and everyone knows it.
Everyone is screaming at their radios right now because they know.
It's the fact you sit in the house in your jeans, your trainers and your coat.
That's an LBW. You can't bring Ix into LBWs.
Well, it's Nick.
I sit there next to you and I'm like, you have putting me off.
All right, I've got Nick with you then.
Go on.
You're vaping.
I've stopped.
It really bothers me.
It does, but I've stopped.
It really bothers me.
I've stopped.
I promise you on this podcast now.
You've already promised me once before.
I have, but I'd lied now because hundreds of people, thousands of people listening, I will
stop vaping.
Okay, good.
Well done you.
So, Isaac's biggest ick.
Smoking, 100%.
Sorry, Isaac.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Fair enough.
ADT 151, unwashed bread knives.
I get it.
Yeah.
I get it.
Skinny jeans on men.
Chewing with their mouth open.
Nose piercings.
Bad body odour.
That's just an obvious one, isn't it?
Belly buttons, especially when guys think it's funny to stick their finger or yours in there.
I do like the belly button game though
I do enjoy playing that every now and then
The second part
Can't deal with guys with outy belly puns
Oh that's something that you're born with
You can't help that
It's an ick though isn't it
Someone here said someone who can't tell the time
So you've basically got the ick with under 7 year olds
Yeah having visible ear wine
Having visible visaline
Oh I've got a good one
having a
having a Velcro wallet
or watching him drink Guinness
Oh, that's an interesting one
Oh, crossy
When they prefer tail enders over nobles
Yes, that is a huge ick
Oh, good
It's that time of year, by the way,
just veering off slightly for a second
of when Spotify gives everyone their most
listen to things like most listen to podcasts so we're getting tagged
keep tagging us because we will retweet you because we're so shameless like that
yeah we will um people brushing their teeth away from the bathroom sink
you do that all the time don't you not all the time but i do often wonder while i'm brushing
yeah um posting on facebook
people who can't pronounce pronunciation
pronunciation good i can do that
Yeah, we're okay.
Sweaty batting gloves and rum and raisin ice cream.
Oh, interesting.
Hoop earrings.
Oh dear.
Polystyrene.
What?
When someone has their umbrella up, but it's not raining.
People who keep their toasters in a cupboard, get in the bin.
That time Jason Roy opened the batting in the ashes.
Oh, yeah.
gosh men who wear trainer socks and shorts yeah yeah perms yeah i've always wanted a perm though
i've run out to hospitality or retail staff that is a very good one i think you can tell a lot about
a person with how they treat a waiter or waitress yeah not liking cricket oh that's who why are you
listening to this podcast slash following us on oh no yeah no it's the right way around yeah that's good
the word bay bay it's so old school so old school isn't it oh and that great ones there very good
that's that was good that brought a little a little giggle to me at the end of that bay so we did
yeah we did um we plan that bit Dan Bay we did so Dan I hope you enjoyed that because it was
probably the worst one it was the best one guys don't forget
get to email us on.
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It's so good.
They've said it twice.
They've said it twice.
Don't forget, there is men's test cricket starting soon,
so make sure you tune in on the BBC and listen.
Yes, the BBC Sport website and app and BBC sounds.
Very good, very professional.
Also, listen to us on BBC TMS.
Crossy, when you play Sunday?
Yeah.
And then when?
Don't know.
It's a great question.
I've not looked at the schedule yet.
Okay.
Well, let's podcast Tuesday and then we can do one post ODI.
All right, deal.
All right.
Bye.
Bye, everyone.
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Hartley falls.
Down the track comes scoring this time she connects.
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