Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast - sliding into John Cena's DMs

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

England bowler Kate Cross is in the West Indies, Alex Hartley is in Pakistan. Two series to discuss, lots of emails to read and an awful lot of of 'icks'....

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Starting point is 00:00:59 It's Waddingham. Looking for, Hartley Falls. Down the track comes scoring this time she connects. It's either six or out. It's six. Hello and welcome back to No Balls, the Forgotten Podcast. With me, Alex Hartley, and you haven't forgotten this week, Kate Cross. We didn't forget.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We never, ever forget we struggle to find the time. We did really well to do the emergency, emergency podcast two weeks ago. And then since then, you've been dissertation in and I've been busy and then I had some time off. You've been travelling. You came home for four minutes and then you've gone to Pakistan again. So it's just been, it's been tough. But we also didn't want to do an episode when we were tired because we know how bad they can be. And speaking of not being tired, you slept the best you've slept in how long?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Oh my God. Al. I've forgotten how good sleep can be. I forgot until I woke up this morning. I was like, wow, that is what a proper night's sleep feels like. I have been so stressed and so rubbish at being a human being recently that I just forgot. Well, she's back because you've handed your dictatorship in. It is. I'm going to hopefully be a dictator by December when my dissertation gets marked. Fingers crossed. Is it, like, school, like, if you don't pass, do you get to redo it? Or is that it? It's done?
Starting point is 00:02:35 No, that's a lot of money down the drain if you don't pass. So I actually had a bit of a, I say a bit of a meltdown. I had a really huge meltdown about a week ago. And it was when I was training with Thunder. And my sister's obviously the physio there. So my sister first-hand saw it. Word gets back to Mum and Dad then. I've had this meltdown.
Starting point is 00:02:54 So Saturday morning, I get a phone call from Mum. And she's like, are you up? because we're just outside your flat. So I was like, oh, that never happens. What you're doing here? Who's dying? They came to check on me, bless them. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:05 They thought you were dying. They came to check on me. They thought I was dying. So dad comes upstairs and he's like, Kate, you need to stop stressing about this uni stuff. Worry about it when you finish playing cricket. You know, that's something for after you've retired. I was like, yeah, but, yeah, dad, I've got a deadline.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I don't quite work that way. And he's like, no, no, just stop stressing, stop worrying. It's really affecting your cricket. I was like, yeah, but I've also paid like £19,000 for this course, dad. And he's like, get your head in your books. What are you doing? Stop talking to us. Why are you wasting time? Didn't quite get it. Cheers, Dave. I'm trying, but you're here.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah. Cheers, Dad. You just rocked up and announced what you're up to. Why are you here? Oh, well, that's what happens when you have a breakdown in front of a family member. I know. If you are going to have breakdowns, I would advise. If you want them to be secret, just don't do them in front of family members. Yeah, especially ones that jobs are welfare. Yeah, yeah, basically. Anyway, so yeah, I'm handed in. I've two and a half years of a master's, completed it, mate.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Honestly, Crossie, you doing that master's was the worst decision you have ever, ever made. Well, it wasn't, it wasn't, because doing it obviously difficult and I thought I'd have loads of time because I started it when we were in lockdown in COVID and had loads of time. And now, no time and just had to write 15,000 words. But it's done, Al, it's done.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I'm so happy. I'm so relieved. I've slept the best I've slept and I'm now in Antigua. Yes, right. Okay, for anybody that doesn't know, Crossy is in the West Indies because you've been picked
Starting point is 00:04:36 for the England ODI team, baby. Rally around the West Indies. And I am in Pakistan because I have been picked for the BBC TMS team, baby. Woo! Yeah, baby. So you'll have seen it on our Instagram story
Starting point is 00:04:52 but the time difference again, oh my gosh. You need a master's to work that out. Yeah, you should. have paid 19 grand to do a master's in time traveling. I'm not wasting that much money on that. I think we could just use our phones. Remember when everyone just, that was everyone's advice.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Just use your world clock. Well, we're trying. So it is 8.57 p.m. here right now. It is. I was just looking at my clock. It says it's 4 o'clock, which is not right because that's English time. It was actually 1157 lunchtime. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Okay. We'll forget this in 10 minutes. It doesn't really matter. We're on the same call. It's fine. We're here. We are here. How are you? I'm good. I am. I'm really good. I feel really relieved. I feel like I can think about cricket now. I, like I said, I'm in the West Indies. Not a really bad place to tour when you want to de-stress. I can see the beach from my bedroom. So yeah, I'm very, very well. Thank you, Alex. How are you? I am good. Very, very good. as you all know was in Australia for seven weeks. I flew home for four days and then now I have flown to Pakistan. Someone messaged me saying, you must be addicted to jet lag. What is your problem?
Starting point is 00:06:10 I was like, well, no, no, no. Jet lag's a mindset. I don't get jet lag, which is a whole new topic. Jet lag's a mindset. But when I came to see you on Friday, you were like, right, everyone out now. It's nine o'clock. I'm tired. That's just normal life that, crossy. no it's not that's jet like Alex but like people are like oh yeah I was awake at 2 till 5 in a.m I couldn't sleep I was sleeping half 9 till half 8 every day and I was like this is bliss yeah but you could sleep on a clothesline if you wanted to yeah so I slept all the way to Pakistan on the flight we got here at midnight
Starting point is 00:06:44 I slept all night but I'm good you've got the view of the beach I've got the view of the president's security but I'm safe so it's great you know I've done you feel safe yeah I've done a video today
Starting point is 00:07:00 of like it's just mad like it is crazy um Pakistan crossy is so much greener than I thought really I feel like I could be in Europe somewhere it's beautiful
Starting point is 00:07:12 really so obviously there's been a lot of talk around this tour it's so historic England haven't toured there for 17 years how do you feel like do you feel safe
Starting point is 00:07:22 do you feel like everything's going to be all right? Yeah, I actually do. So I got here and I didn't know what to expect, like did not know what to expect. Got off the plane, the airport was quiet. It was like 1 a.m. I was expecting, I don't know why I was expecting the airport to be full of people, but I was. Like the fans coming to greet the nobles correspondent out in Pakistan. Yeah, by the way, guys, you are welcome. We've got someone out in Pakistan for this historic tour. And we've got somebody out in the West Indies for their tour,
Starting point is 00:07:53 not a historic, but their tour. Our budget is really stretched at the minute. It is. So, yeah, the airport was really quiet. We went, got on the bus. We've got two buses, drivers, security.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Like, it's brilliant. Like, honestly brilliant. Got to the hotel. I have never, ever seen anything like it. There's like seven restaurants, 72 swimming pools, a shopping mall. It's just incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Oh, wow. It is incredible. My room is absolutely huge. Oh, wow. I feel like royalty. So you're not going to be allowed out much though, are you? It's going to be like cricket ground or hotel. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:34 The team are very much like that. They have like massive, honestly, cross-y. They had about 52 security trucks to take four of them to train instead because they're all ill, which we'll go into in a second. If anyone does want to know what life on the road of an England cricketer is like, a good person to follow. is Paul Collinwood because he puts a lot of like behind the scenes stuff on his Instagram story
Starting point is 00:08:56 and I saw he was like pictures with all the policemen and all the security men definitely worth to follow if you want to see what it's like so they're not allowed out there very much you know a hotel to ground and back
Starting point is 00:09:07 I haven't managed to venture out yet a couple of the lads went out today and went to a shopping mall and things like that I was meant to be playing cricket in a journals versus English journals versus Pakistan Journal's game
Starting point is 00:09:19 but I'm not a journalist guys, I'm not a journalist. Why didn't you play? It got cancelled because the England team are all ill. Oh no. So let's go into that. What? Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:31 So... Good segue. Well done. Yeah. So our game got cancelled because England men haven't been to Pakistan for 17 years and they've all gone down with the shit. Is it though? Because they're very, very conscious of saying it's nothing to do with the food
Starting point is 00:09:47 because they have taken their own chef out there, haven't they? Well, it's not the food. this like so i was speaking to somebody in the england camp yesterday i won't name names in case i get in trouble for whatever reason um and they were like oh gosh i feel like i've been at training for hours and hours and hours feel like i've been in the gym for five hours i was like oh that's weird he was like yeah i must have just thrown a lot of balls member of staff helps um and then well like got back from training today and he's like yeah i'm ill i didn't know you had brandon mccullum's number i he's in my room all right bazz
Starting point is 00:10:20 You feel it all right? Just let everyone know that is not happening. Anyway, they're all poorly. You might get a game. I'm ready. I'm ready. Get those left-arm tweakers out. I'm ready. It would be the first time I've trained all winter,
Starting point is 00:10:37 which would be a bit rogue. I can imagine you and Andy Zaltzman opening the bowling from either end. Can you believe I've just called playing in a test match as training? your first winter net also guys we need to tell you a little secret we've just had five minutes of absolute chaos meltdown
Starting point is 00:10:58 and me and crossy are now doing this podcast via via phone call we might as well have pigeons sending messages to each other because this is so old school it's so weird not being able to see your face I did threaten to turn my data roaming on but all I got off the plane yesterday I turned my phone on
Starting point is 00:11:17 and I got a message from Sky saying that I'd already used my monthly date limit of £45. Did you know? I go, oh yeah, I work for Sky, pay me bill. I know what I was thinking that. I was like, come on guys, give me a discount. Anyway, this is a BBC podcast, so moving on.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Anyway, how are you? I know how you are. You're in where? What, we've done all that? Yeah, but we've talked about England, Pakistan. Now I want to talk about England, the West Indies. Oh, right. Okay, so our first game is on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:46 we've got three ODIs, and then the girls move on to Barbados. Well, the first T20 is in Antigua, actually. But then they go to Barbados for four more T20s after that. Get home on the 24th of December. I can't believe they get home so late, you know. Mad. Not me, because not in the T20 squad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So congratulations. Not playing you. For not being in the T20s. No, you've been picked for the ODIs. I'm super proud. And without. sounding, I don't want this to come across in a bad way
Starting point is 00:12:20 but I don't think you being picked for the T20s is necessarily a bad thing. I've not been picked for the T20s so not not being picked you mean? Yes that one. Yeah. I know what you mean. I do not what I mean. I think you're right I was obviously the 15th
Starting point is 00:12:36 player of most of the T20 squads this summer but the hard thing is is that we've got a T20 World Cup in February and not being in that squad now makes it feel quite hard to get into the World Cup squad but then it's that balance of do you want to be carrying the drinks for that
Starting point is 00:12:52 it's really hard well obviously you want to be carrying the drinks because you'd rather be 15th on tour than 16th at home but I think where your mental health has been the last six months no two or three months six years
Starting point is 00:13:08 two or three months I think maybe a little break away isn't a bad thing and new coaches is like it's not over yeah we've not even touched on that have we we've got a new head coach well it was going to be one of either john lewis and john lewis got the job john lewis got the job so we to make it easier we'll go john one who was original john lewis batting coach from durham and john two new john lewis bowling head coach from gloucester area so before we get into all the fun of this podcast i think you can give us an insight into the new
Starting point is 00:13:45 new head coach, John Lewis. John too, yeah. So very, very, very great first impressions. He's been super, super positive. And I'm not surprised because he's come from the men's white ball team and he's been working with the men's red ball team as well. So obviously their journeys that they've had in their respective teams, squads, whatever, over the past couple of years, has been pretty transformational.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And he's basically come in and said, I see no reason why the women can't do that as well. Okay, that's good. And that's exciting. Massively. And he's just been, he's basically just been so positive about, like he doesn't believe that we know what our ceiling is yet. He thinks that we've not achieved what we can achieve,
Starting point is 00:14:29 which we obviously haven't. We get to a lot of semifinals and don't win big tournaments kind of thing. So I think it feels like a really nice time for that sort of mentality to come into our game. And with the youth that we brought in this summer, it definitely feels like the perfect kind of message to be giving those girls as well that freedom of going out and playing
Starting point is 00:14:49 how you want to play. Yeah, you've got a good mix now, haven't you, of like experience and oldies, golden oldies. Yeah, he said that as well and I think that's the making of a good squad really, isn't it? You think about successful teams around the world.
Starting point is 00:15:02 You do have that really good mix of young girls who just don't give a shit, basically. They just come in and play cricket because they're very good at what they've done and they've been picked for England because of that. And then you've got the older girls who try and help and... guide and, you know, like a Nat Siver who will stand up in those really tough moments,
Starting point is 00:15:19 you know that you can rely on players like that. So it does feel like a really good mix. Has there been anything that he's, that you can talk about on the podcast that he's picked up on straight away and he's like, wow, that needs to change or that's good, that can stay? Well, he's not really been with us that long. So we had a training camp in Loughborough before we left, which was Monday to Thursday and then we flew the following Tuesday. So he's not been with us too long. I said to him, I was like, when did, because he was a in Dubai with the men's bowlers for prepping for the Pakistan tour. So I think it was a bit of a whirlwind for him, you know, in terms of got the job.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I had to ask his boss if he could go home kind of thing. You know, it's not very, it wasn't a normal circumstance of getting a new job. So he's not been with us too long, but I think there's going to be the kind of expectation that he's got from the ECB with how the men are treated. And I think that'll cross over quite heavily now with us because he's, seeing what's expected if that makes sense oh my god crossy you might finally be treated the same as the men well just little things like i was talking to him about uh the men's t20 world cup kit that they had it was a different training kit wasn't it was navy blue it's not what we wear at the minute
Starting point is 00:16:32 and we were talking about how funny well funny i don't know if that's the right word we had to basically like cover up our own sponsorships in our world cup this year and he kind of couldn't get his head around how that had happened and just little things like that, I think are going to get ironed out quite quickly. Like, I mean, you guys having to actually cover up that cinch was not, okay, was it? It wasn't and it, yeah, we laughed about it and we kind of just got on with it. But yeah, I just, I think I saw Heather say it in an interview not that long ago about women's cricket's in a really strange phase of some of the girls that are still playing
Starting point is 00:17:09 and are getting paid to play now are still very, thankful that they're getting all these opportunities. And actually, when does that mentality change of, no, we deserve to be paid. We deserve to have the same things that the men are having. So I think we're all trying to kind of work through that as well. And you don't want to sound like princesses and whatever, but you also want to make sure you're able to do your job as best as you possibly can
Starting point is 00:17:34 with the best support. So, yeah, it's a strange time. But I think he's going to really help with that side of it. one thing you're really looking forward to having him a round for go bowling coach i've got two bowling coaches now out and i we've not had a consistent bowling coach for well other than maca tim mcdonald who we had for like three years the bowling coach has been very bitty the bowling coach has always been the one that's taken the hit hasn't it so you've got matt mason as well matt mason's come in yeah he's an absolute belter um already like loved working with him it's been really difficult we've been
Starting point is 00:18:08 changing a few bits but like really feel like he's going to make me a better bowler which is very exciting is it like i know the answer to this but for people that are listening that don't know is it really tough when somebody comes into the environment like so matt mason's come into your environment and gone kate you need to change this it'll make you better do you believe him and go straight into it or do you have to sit down and have a conversation and say why well first of all i don't think he anyone would come into this environment and say you need to do this so he hasn't He's not been like that with me. But I sat down with him and our essence, actually,
Starting point is 00:18:42 and I was like, I'm 31 years old. I've always kind of bowled how I've bowled. I've always had a bit more consistency recently with a bit more success. But I feel like I've got more to give. How do I do? Like, what am I missing? Why am I not bowling consistently at 74, 75 miles per hour?
Starting point is 00:18:57 And he already had these ideas that he knew because he's seen me bowl. I've worked with him a little bit in the past. But he'd seen over the last two or three years, you know, he's like, why are you not doing this? if I was your coach, I would have done this kind of thing. So we had those chats and everything he said makes perfect sense to me. And I feel like I can be a better bowler with the things that he's going to put into my like program.
Starting point is 00:19:19 But it's just going to take a little bit of time, I think, to work through it all. Because I've done what I've done for like 15 years. So it's quite hard to change that. Yeah, it's frustrating. Because you have days where nothing clicks and you're like, oh, my God, this is going to ruin my career. Yes, that's the really scary bit as well. And I think because I've worked so hard to kind of get that ODI shirt and have that role in that team, I was really conscious of not doing anything that could possibly risk that.
Starting point is 00:19:44 But then it's that risk reward of, well, if I do this, I could be so much better in six months' time. Could be so much better. That's amazing. Could be so much better and could then end up playing all three formats as well. Yeah, he said that. He said exactly that. He was like, I want you to be the best bowler in the squad so that we can't drop you. And I was like, all right, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Did you say, I already am in test match and ODIs? It's just I've not been given the opportunity when it comes to T20s. Yeah, I was like, well, we didn't have a head coach when I got dropped, so. Good stuff, good stuff. Anyway, cricket chat. That's a lot of cricket chat. That's good, good, good cricket chat. I was journalism from you, very journalistic.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, I know, but I just, people want to know what you're up to and how you're doing with life and all that jazz. I don't really care. No, and to be fair, we've not spoken that much. we've been quite sporadic with our friendship recently. I know, it's been really sad, hasn't it? I'm really sorry, but the time difference stresses me out. I know. Well, January, we're both in the UK, aren't we?
Starting point is 00:20:45 So we can have a nice little... What's the word? Reconciliation. Reconciliation. Yes. Yes, we can do that. Are you got January off or what's going on there? No.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Hopefully might be prepping for a World Cup, but you just don't know. So you got January off? So, I'm off in January. Oh, I'm only joking. I'm only joking. Shall we go upstairs? Well, I've got a few sticky notes, but I think they're going to be a bit out of date. So, why.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. Should we just fly through them and just see what's funny and what's not from how long we, you know, wrote these down? Yeah. How long ago we wrote them down. Yeah. Do you want to go first? Yeah, so we kind of touched on it in the emergency episode, but you've won the battle. So we need to plan that.
Starting point is 00:21:32 We need to work out what you. you're going to make me do because England won and you predicted that England would win. Yeah, yeah. Don't you worry, I know exactly, exactly what we're doing. Would you like to tell our listeners or do you want to keep it a secret? Well, I don't know what it is. So if you want to tell me, that'll be great. You want to know?
Starting point is 00:21:49 I think I want to know, yeah. And I can mentally prepare. Have you seen this trend on the internet where you go into a charity shop and you will close your eyes and run your finger down a rail and I'll go, stop. Okay. And we're going to do it with hat, shirt, trousers, slash skirt and shoes, and then you have to wear that for a meal out with me. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:14 That sounds all right, actually. It could. I'll probably just look like you. Your fashion sense at the minute. Do you know what? We're just doing my wardrobe. Yeah. Basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Okay, I'm up for that. Don't turn this round of me. This is going to be gone. I hope you. you get like a pink skirt and like a Pokemon top. Sorry, Avril Levine. Pokemon. The only thing I've got my sticking out is me and you got followed by someone very, very strange.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Oh, yeah, that's on mine. Very strange. Famous wrestler, I think he is. Yeah, you got you something about that, wasn't he? Yeah, John Sina. John Sina followed us by. But then he's followed like Sophie Luff as well, like really strange. So his management must be doing the rounds with cricket.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I don't know why. Well, I've then spotted that I've had loads of blue tick followers since he followed me. And they're all followed by John Sina. Interesting. Really strange. Anyway, what I thought we could do is try and reach out to John Sina whilst we're on the podcast. I was thinking we could maybe both slide into his DMs and see what happens. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, I think we should do it. What, like now? I think we need to do it own video in it so that we can prove to each other we've sent it. Well, all I've got to do is send you a screenshot. I'm going to do it right now. You tell me what to say. I'm going to slide in.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Hi, John. John, Sina, let me just search for in one minute. It is. Hi, John. How are you? I hope you will. Are you going to watch our ODIR. this weekend kiss sent i have a podcast no no you have sent it i've sent it hi john hope you
Starting point is 00:24:14 well are you going to watch our odi eyes this weekend kiss oh my god oh my god i'm sweating for you you're not embarrassed no not at all this is why you get all the guests and i don't yeah um by the way phil salt is going to come on this podcast we are going to have a world cup winner on this he just hurt himself so we've had to postpone it. I've got nothing else on my sticking out. Right, I'll fly through the two that I've got now then. So I've got bone to pick with someone out there. I don't know who you are.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I don't know what your name is. But someone hacked our Dropbox. Oh, yes. Yes. Who is that? Why? Why? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:52 Why do you want to be on our Dropbox? Because... Get out. All it is is the raw files of this podcast. And you don't want that. no one needs that Henry hates them no wants them
Starting point is 00:25:05 we also have screenshots of various cricketers in there randomly yeah just got pictures of old cricketers in there because Charlotte used to just keep stuff in there for safety
Starting point is 00:25:16 yeah yeah all right leave us alone stop hacking us yeah last one this is a bit of a sad one actually I saw my sister obviously
Starting point is 00:25:24 because training with thunder a bit more she said oh I forgot about your podcast so I listened to it in the car on the way here a YouTube running out of content.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Oh. It hurt me. Oh. But then you also said that we've had an email from someone saying it's gone down the pan because we don't plan it. Do you want me to read it out loud, actually? Yeah, I think you should. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It's not nice to listen to. I'm ready. My sister's already given me the beginning of it, the foundation. She's set it quite low. This is from Danny. Hi, ladies. Big fan of your day jobs. but this podcast is beginning to sound very lazily put together
Starting point is 00:26:04 with neither particularly sure what the others should be doing. Just doesn't sound like much preparation goes into each episode. You can't just turn up and do things off the cuff. Otherwise, listeners will lose interest. There's so many other cricket podcasts, which are so much more professionally done. I listen because you are different, but it seems you have lost your way a little.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I know you are better than this. I look forward to an improvement in the future. Cheers, Danny. right Danny I'm going to speak to you directly now I'm going to take your feedback on board because I must admit I think we have we've not been our funny selves recently I'm going to take ownership of that
Starting point is 00:26:42 and responsibility and say I've not been my best self however we have a lot of compliments on our lack of professionalism because there are so many professional cricket podcasts out there that talk about the same things and say the same things and have the very same opinions and we are different we're a point of difference And that is actually what we love being.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So I'm going to take your feedback and I'm going to... I'm going to put it in the bin. It is in the bin. And, and honestly, Danny, Danny, just turn it off, mate. Right, come on, let's go upstairs with an umpire. Let's do it. Who are we going up with? Honestly, anyone.
Starting point is 00:27:22 All of them. Let's go upstairs with all the umpires. All the umpires, because I can't think of one off the top of my head. Right, I'll start us off. Got one here. Dear Kate and Alex, I hope you're enjoying the break. Just watch the strikers beat the sixes and thought of you two, who are not playing. I've enjoyed Alex's commentary of both the T20 World Cup and the three ODIs and thought she was both professional and entertaining,
Starting point is 00:27:48 especially the difference in height between her and when she stood next to some of the bowlers. Question, how hard do you find having two faces? One, the professional journalist and two, being yourself. from the often hilarious Snowballs podcast. You're listening to that, Danny. Often hilarious Snowballs podcast. You're carefree and funny, which is the opposite of the demeanour of a BBC journalist.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Your 50-year-old Chinese fan, David. Well, David, when we're on air, or I'm on air, sorry, and on TMS or the ABC, whoever I'm working with, I just tone it down ever so slightly. So I cut out the swearing sometimes. We beat it out so your kids can listen. But the podcast is probably a little toned-down version of what the real Hartley is. And then the BBC, Hartley, is probably even more toned down.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So I don't know, I don't know. I try and be myself as much as I can. The thing is, when you go to the BBC, you're doing your job, aren't you? Your job is to correspond on the cricket, give your insights, be professional. The podcast is two mates having a chat about, God knows what, you know, whatever lands in our inbox that week. So there's obviously going to be that element of turning up to work aspect of being on the bebe. Yeah, and it's, you know, I can't behave inappropriately or do silly things on air because ultimately I won't get a job again.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Get a job. Right. Dear Kate and Alex, hope you're doing well. I was wondering if when you bowl to left-handed batters, your mindset changes. As a legy, almost everything is a wide. Have you got any tip? Yeah, start it on a different line Yeah, so just aim
Starting point is 00:29:32 If you're starting it on the same line It's going to be a wide Yeah, so just aim Like, so I'm a left arm spinner And I will go from around the wicket to over the wicket And aim slightly wider because I turn the ball in So you as a leggy will also turn the ball in I suggest you come around the wicket
Starting point is 00:29:51 And try and land the ball just outside the off stump I think this is one where you really need to be clear on what your strength is to that batter in that moment. So for me, as a bowler, a scene bowler, I am a baller, as a scene bowler, I would stay over the wicket so that I can try and still target the pads and the outside edge because of the way that I nip the ball around. Yes. So I think if you're clear as a legy, what your wicket taking delivery is and then place yourself in the best position for that. So if you need to come around the wicket, over the wicket, whatever it might be. But just be really cool.
Starting point is 00:30:27 clear on what your plan is because you can't just running a bowl when there's a different batter there. I'm loving no balls, the hopefully regular podcast. Sorry, this is from TV. Sorry about that. My LBW is I eat the crust of pizza before the rest of the pizza. What? Unless you're dipping that in garlic aoli, that's not okay.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But then you'll be full from the crust. I don't really eat the crust. I give you the crust. Yeah, I get the crust. Next. Hello, Kate and Alex, I've been listening to your podcast over the last few weeks and I've really enjoyed listening to it. I can tell you're both down to earth, kind and funny people, and your podcast has become
Starting point is 00:31:06 a nice part of my weekly routine and something nice to look forward to during the winter months and the dark early nights. I attended my first cricket match earlier this year during the 100, watching the Birmingham Phoenix play at Edgebaston and I've continued to watch cricket on a more regular basis since then. I just want to say thank you again for making me smile and laugh whilst listening to your podcast and we'd like to finish off by asking what's your favourite Christmas film take care Adam right also I think a tactic from our listeners is they pretend they wrote the emails ages ago
Starting point is 00:31:38 do you think so this is actually from yesterday I think this is new and he's gone I know I'm going to pretend it's all right them up yeah I like that what's your favorite Christmas film I have I have a few are like it's a hard one to narrow down because obviously you only watch Christmas films at this time of year but I have one that I'll wrap my presents to I have one that I put my Christmas decorations up to you don't put Christmas decorations up
Starting point is 00:32:05 last Christmas at your house is very very sad I know I wasn't there though but anyway I was yeah you were what's yours mine's Arthur Christmas the cartoon and I reckon it's a good one I reckon I watch it nine times over the Christmas period it is so
Starting point is 00:32:24 good. It is a good one. It is good. I'll give you that. I only watched it last year for the first time and that was because you said it was your favourite one. So I can't like. Don't feel like Christmas? I'm not really in the Christmas mood. Not going to lie. You well, at least you get a little Christmas buildup. Yeah, true. Hi guys. Another belter of a pod. Did you hear that? Do you want to read another one out then? Oh, he's not finished. Did I just read the last one? Yeah. All right. Okay. Yeah, you go. You'll turn. It's like we don't plan it. Hi guys, another belter of a part. Hope the dissertation goes well, crossy, and your sunburn heels well, Al.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The commentary touring, partly of Hartley, Moran and Norcross looks great fun. It made me wonder. It must say party. It can't say partly. Yeah, it says party. Okay, I'm going to read this one with you just in case. It made me wonder, who would be in your ultimate cricket touring party? They can be players, retired players, commentators, fans, even the cold player guy.
Starting point is 00:33:24 looking forward to hearing who loses the bet as goes out, dressed as a that's a... That's a big... P.S. P.S. I'm loving the little snippets
Starting point is 00:33:38 at the end of the podcast, Henry has reintroduced. If you don't listen all the way, listen all the way because they are funny. Listen all the way. They are funny. That's a great question and one that probably needs a bit of thought.
Starting point is 00:33:49 But why not get the cold play guy in? Let's get him in. We need a comedian Michael McIntyre Yeah he likes his cricket Michael can come What about Lewis Capaldi He looks a good time
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yep Yep And he can sing So why not We'll all be sad together Chris Tremlet Yeah Got to have Chris Tremlet there
Starting point is 00:34:18 Just in case you need any trees chopping down and I'll take you well I think we're already there me you Hartley Moran and Norcross well then we need someone to get into we need someone to get into small places James Taylor
Starting point is 00:34:33 James Taylor's coming we need someone really famous that can help us get like do fun things for free Elon Musk oh oh controversial at the minute okay right no okay he's in the bin then him and Dan are in the bin yeah right
Starting point is 00:34:50 I think In fact, let's take Dan Let's take Dan who moaned about us not being professional enough Yes, let's take him and we'll give him
Starting point is 00:34:58 a great time Let's combat that feedback with niceness We're going to take you on a free tour ring party with Michael McIntyre
Starting point is 00:35:06 and Chris Tramlett and James Taylor And Alex Hartley Kate Cross Dan Nor Cross Henry Moran sounds great Right Before his podcast finishes
Starting point is 00:35:13 Crossie Yeah I'm ready for this Big I put on Instagram earlier I want to know people's icks right yeah it was a great shout from you it's a trend going round at the minute and i find it hilarious so before we get into what people's icks are i've got an ick with you okay what is it i've got loads right but yeah okay my biggest ick with you oh no is your visaline oh don't all that's my
Starting point is 00:35:50 I'm joking. I'm joking. It's not. It is. She wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. No, it's not. It's genuinely not because your teeth are going to look beautiful. I just wanted to be a numpty. My biggest ick with you and everyone knows it. Everyone is screaming at their radios right now because they know. It's the fact you sit in the house in your jeans, your trainers and your coat. That's an LBW. You can't bring Ix into LBWs.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Well, it's Nick. I sit there next to you and I'm like, you have putting me off. All right, I've got Nick with you then. Go on. You're vaping. I've stopped. It really bothers me. It does, but I've stopped.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It really bothers me. I've stopped. I promise you on this podcast now. You've already promised me once before. I have, but I'd lied now because hundreds of people, thousands of people listening, I will stop vaping. Okay, good. Well done you.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So, Isaac's biggest ick. Smoking, 100%. Sorry, Isaac. Yeah, I'm with you. Fair enough. ADT 151, unwashed bread knives. I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I get it. Skinny jeans on men. Chewing with their mouth open. Nose piercings. Bad body odour. That's just an obvious one, isn't it? Belly buttons, especially when guys think it's funny to stick their finger or yours in there. I do like the belly button game though
Starting point is 00:37:21 I do enjoy playing that every now and then The second part Can't deal with guys with outy belly puns Oh that's something that you're born with You can't help that It's an ick though isn't it Someone here said someone who can't tell the time So you've basically got the ick with under 7 year olds
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah having visible ear wine Having visible visaline Oh I've got a good one having a having a Velcro wallet or watching him drink Guinness Oh, that's an interesting one Oh, crossy
Starting point is 00:38:01 When they prefer tail enders over nobles Yes, that is a huge ick Oh, good It's that time of year, by the way, just veering off slightly for a second of when Spotify gives everyone their most listen to things like most listen to podcasts so we're getting tagged keep tagging us because we will retweet you because we're so shameless like that
Starting point is 00:38:23 yeah we will um people brushing their teeth away from the bathroom sink you do that all the time don't you not all the time but i do often wonder while i'm brushing yeah um posting on facebook people who can't pronounce pronunciation pronunciation good i can do that Yeah, we're okay. Sweaty batting gloves and rum and raisin ice cream. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Hoop earrings. Oh dear. Polystyrene. What? When someone has their umbrella up, but it's not raining. People who keep their toasters in a cupboard, get in the bin. That time Jason Roy opened the batting in the ashes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:16 gosh men who wear trainer socks and shorts yeah yeah perms yeah i've always wanted a perm though i've run out to hospitality or retail staff that is a very good one i think you can tell a lot about a person with how they treat a waiter or waitress yeah not liking cricket oh that's who why are you listening to this podcast slash following us on oh no yeah no it's the right way around yeah that's good the word bay bay it's so old school so old school isn't it oh and that great ones there very good that's that was good that brought a little a little giggle to me at the end of that bay so we did yeah we did um we plan that bit Dan Bay we did so Dan I hope you enjoyed that because it was probably the worst one it was the best one guys don't forget
Starting point is 00:40:16 get to email us on. No Bowlspodcast at BBC.com.com. Noblespodcast at BBC.com. It's so good. They've said it twice. They've said it twice. Don't forget, there is men's test cricket starting soon, so make sure you tune in on the BBC and listen.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yes, the BBC Sport website and app and BBC sounds. Very good, very professional. Also, listen to us on BBC TMS. Crossy, when you play Sunday? Yeah. And then when? Don't know. It's a great question.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I've not looked at the schedule yet. Okay. Well, let's podcast Tuesday and then we can do one post ODI. All right, deal. All right. Bye. Bye, everyone. And cross strikes in the first over.
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