Test Match Special - No Balls: The Cricket Podcast. The final wrap-up.

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

England bowler Kate Cross and TMS commentator Alex Hartley are reunited in the UK a week after the World Cup final where England were defeated by Australia in a high scoring game. They reflect on the match and the tournament as a whole both on the field and in the commentary box. Plus an update on whether the “hunky umpire” is going to join the pod!

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hello and welcome back to no balls the cricket podcast with me Alex Harley we didn't even fly that that was good for us the power of being back together thank God

it's been a very quiet morning and we've just honestly we're like actress We've just switched it on for this podcast. Is that what they do? Is that what they get paid for? We're here at Emirates Soltrafford. What an absolutely beautiful place.

Good from you, Emeritus, Salt Trafford. Beautiful place to do this podcast because we've been doing it from various bedrooms of various hotels for the last three months. No wonder we're sick of it. Literally, no wonder we've... This has taken us so long to do because we're both like, oh, should we do the pod?

It's also taken us so long to do because you left New Zealand on the Tuesday. We left New Zealand on the Wednesday. We've not seen each of the... since we've got back so this is a reunion and it's all just been a bit of a shambles obviously in true nobles fashion yeah how are you i'm good i'm okay i am tired which i think i've said on the last seven episodes so but we've stopped now and i'm properly tired like my body is just gone oh my god are you 50 well i think it's actually

gone like thank you oh really stop in yeah like you don't have to bowl anymore that's nice Yeah, so have you done any exercise for the last however long? No, so it's been seven days since the final. Yeah? Is that all it is? Sounds like a Craig David song, that. Seven days since the final, and I've not been interested in putting any kind of running attire on. No.

And I'm not going to, we've got four weeks off now, so I'm just going to let my body relax, recover, and then when I'm ready to go in about seven weeks' time, I'll go again. Although you were texting me last night, being like, I've done a spreadsheet on all my cricket dates, and I'm so excited. I was like, Crossie, have some time off. Yeah, so that was, so officially time off starts today, this Monday. We've got four weeks from today. And I thought, I just don't know what I'm doing this summer.

One of the girls was like, I bet she's at training on Friday. Probably. Every chance. No, absolutely not. Paz has said to me today, rocked up, because we're at Media Day here at Lanks. Rocked up, Pazzo was like, you're training with us today, Crossey. I was like, absolutely not. Why would I be training?

I will strain my side if I try and bowl today. No, thank you. So will I and I've got to. How are you? I'm all right, thank you. I'm equally as tired. like it's funny isn't it when you've been on tour you feel like you need a holiday after a tour which you can have i've got to go straight back into cricket which because they obviously

think i've just been gallivanting for three months when i've been working extremely incredibly hard um so yeah i landed on the wednesday and i was back in training on the wednesday and uh i need a break it's now monday yeah i mean would you want to go away though like people have asked me this today and i'm like i couldn't think of anything worse than getting on a plane or living out of a suitcase again. I would like to click my fingers and be in the sun. Really? Okay. So you've been in the sun for three months?

New Zealand was not sunny. No, it wasn't. Someone said today, they were like, oh, it must be cold for you today. I was like, we played in Wellington. Yeah, Windy Wellington. Yeah, had 17 layers and hand-pocket, hand-womers in my pocket. Hand-pockets in your warmers. Hand-pockets in my warm. Where do we start with this week?

We've not put it off, but you text me after the, maybe the Tuesday after the woke up finding, and you said, do you want to do the pod? said whenever you're ready. And I was like, I don't think we should avoid it just because we've lost. No. If we'd have won, we'd have been doing this 15 minutes after the game, I'm sure. So we've got to address it.

So let's give it a go. Yeah. Well, what a turnaround? Like, it's not got straight into losing the final. You've played incredible cricket to even get there. You should have been home two weeks ago. I think that's the bit I'm probably struggling the most with, especially having come home and spoke to people.

I went down to the cricket club on Saturday. and people don't know what to say because they're like oh well well done we know you lost but well well done and we're proud of you and people just aren't quite sure how to frame it and I think because I've not really processed it properly yet like today's the we've done media today

and it's the first time I've spoken about it so it's the first time I've even started the process of processing it's what the pods for honey but when people have said like you've done so well to get there we were probably opposite to that thinking there's no way we shouldn't get there like going into that tournament we believe that we were a top four team obviously

yeah top two team yeah so we had the ambitions to go and retain the trophy so for us to even consider not getting to that final was never an option so the fact that people are framing it being like you've done well to get there no it would have been a travesty if we didn't get there but if we're being totally honest you didn't deserve to get there and if the competition hadn't have been as close as it was, you'd have been knocked out. Yeah, yeah.

It's funny because everyone says, like, we lost the, obviously we did lose the first three games, but we didn't play good cricket. No. We did against Australia. Yeah. We didn't play our best cricket, but we weren't poor.

Like, we nearly chased down 300. If you'd have played that cricket in any other game, you'd have beat any other team. Yeah, it was just because it was against Australia. So we were probably most disappointed with the West Indies and the South Africa games because we got ourselves in positions to lose those. So I think once we played that game against India And we turned it around

And again, we had to play knockout cricket Which helped us, I think, because there was just no other option And you did have two easy games, easier games Yeah, I think Yeah, I think once we got to the semi-final bit Even though we played five semifinals in that tournament I think once we got to that bit We were like, right, we can do this

But we always knew it would be hard playing against Australia Remember seeing you the day before the final And everyone was super chilled, was really sunny wasn't it yeah we were all in shorts and a t-shirt and it was the first time i'd really come to training and spoke to you all and i said you're right you went yeah i'm just looking over there at the practice and i can't genuinely can't see who's going to lift the trophy you like i feel like it's 50-50 yeah because they would do like the whole run through so they put the stage up it was quite funny actually because all the iCC staff members were like pretending to be

laura wolfer they were like thank you i've worked incredibly hard on my cover drive yeah and they were like got presented with a water bottle and it was i'm so proud to win this trophy like Thank you so much to my family and my friends with all we watching. So that was quite funny. But I was just watching that whole thing take place. And I was like, I can't have a vision of who it was going to be. And I have to say, I thought about that final quite a lot. I thought about how it was going to go.

I thought about the possibilities of us batting first, there's bowling first, who'd score runs. In none of my visions, did I see us concede in 360? Like, in none of them. What was it, 367? I'm calling it 360, I'm rounding it down Oh, I've been rounding it up Well, I've been rounding it down

Yeah, because I went at 8th in a World Cup final And everyone said, well done to me Yeah, everyone said you bowed well Well quite well, yeah You did bowl well You and you were unlucky, two drop catches in and over Yeah 10 in the tournament

Ten in the tournament We've been talking about your tournament actually quite a lot And you were like, I'm really disappointed I didn't take any wickets But you created opportunities Yeah I think that's what I need to start measuring myself on as well it's not obviously you can't be in control of winning losing people taking catches whatever

but i can be in control of what i do so i think i was just saying we did an interview today we just spoke with the partners here at lanks didn't we and like i'm 30 and i think i know everything about cricket and about myself and i've just learned so much in the last eight weeks and stuff that because it's again it was a new experience for me i've never played in a world cup so it's like i'm still learning and still be learning at 30 that means you've got to play in another one you've got to still be there in three years well i was thinking 2005 like three years away could definitely put myself forward to be involved in that but then i was talking to h about this like there's nothing that's guaranteed like how what you said going into this tournament like that was

your last i thought i'd be i'd thought i'd be playing in this tournament you just played in so i was thinking as soon as we lost that final i was like right 2025 i'm gonna you know i'm gonna put my name forward to be involved in that but nothing is guaranteed there's nothing to say you'll be fit when you get there like you might have an injury there's nothing to say we'll make a final like nothing in sport is guaranteed so I think that's the bit I'm really struggling to work out at the minute is appreciating that I've played in a war-up final without not wanting to throw it away but it wasn't good enough because we didn't win it whereas I will get to a point where I'll be so proud that I played in that but at the

minute I can't get there yeah did you enjoy it as a whole not the final the tournament, playing in a World Cup. I honestly, I was hoping you wouldn't ask me that question because at the minute the answer is no. Yeah. Because it feels like such a blur. Yeah. I was trying to think about like a team that we played.

I was like, what ground was that? And where are we there? It will always be like that, I'm telling you now. It will literally always be like that. I think people ask me if I remember it or enjoyed it. And it's weird because you look back and you go, I must have enjoyed it. I think I enjoyed it.

I don't know. That's exactly where I'm feeling at them. I feel a bit guilty for feeling that. Well, I still feel like that five years later. Okay, right. That makes me feel a little bit better, actually. But, yeah, I guess they're the emotions that I've not processed yet. But at the minute, I can't look back and be like,

that was the best time of my life because it wasn't, because it was hard and it was emotional. And, yeah, again, said in this interview, like the one thing you didn't warn me about was how emotionally invested you get into it. Yeah. And we've never played more than five ODIs in a row. Like, we played eight. I don't know how many it was.

I literally played eight. so no nine including the final so I think the sheer amount of cricket the emotion that goes into certainly those losses at the start of the start of the tournament the emotion that came out after the semi-final knowing we'd made the final and then I was emotionless after the game the actual final I was like I'm okay like this is weird but you told me that you knew you'd lost a long way out from when you actually lost because Australia just dominated didn't they Well, I thought three, I genuinely thought 300. Me too.

Three hundred is probably past score. I thought three 20 we could, we could chase three 20. It started off like, two 80, yeah, 300, yeah, maybe two 20, maybe. And then it got to three 60s. Oh, God. Well, I looked at the scoreboard. I think in the last ten overs, I was like, right, we've got, if we can take a few wickets here, which we did, we might have a chance.

And then it was just like this onslaught of people coming in and scoring boundaries. And I thought, right, three 50 is going to be tough in a final to chase. But if Nat can pull something off, You never know. Nat actually said to me in the change room at half time, she was like, I need to score 150 here because I dropped Healy. Oh my God. She was like, I'm going to go and score 150.

She didn't quite get there, 148 not out. Only because we let her down. I genuinely think if anyone had batted with her, then we were above the rate for all of it. It was just the wickets. Yeah, you're miles above it as well. It's funny, isn't it? Because everyone looks at Australia and says,

best team in the world are so dominant, how are we ever going to catch up to them, which is true. But that batting line up is a once-in-a-lifetime batting line up. up when they're all 30 when they start retiring they're not going to be anywhere near as good as they are now yeah well someone said to me they were like you're unlucky to have those drop catches because it would have got rid of haines and healy but then i was like yeah that's great but landing and perry were coming in so you know it was just like it just felt never ending and then you got moonie who knows how to read situations um but the emotion so i was i was no emotion coming off the pitch i was fine like we said like i kind of at half time felt like it was going to we were uphill you know chasing shovel what is it shoveling shit uphill yeah something like that um so yeah we're always going to be up against it and then i sat down in the dressing room we'd done the media bits we'd gone and got the trophy everyone was just having a beer and breezy our bowling coach the spin bowling coach came and sat

next to me and i was like breezy i'm not got any emotion i don't like i'm quite an emotional person i don't get it and as i said that a tear fell out of my eye no and i'll i'm not exaggerating i couldn't stop crying for like two hours oh my god but just having a normal conversation with someone I was just crying yeah it's weird isn't it it was so strange so strange I mean it is emotional isn't it because that was you know like the older people in that group might never play again in a world cup like and and they'll know that so they'll be emotional yeah like the younger people probably good they didn't play and vice versa and like it's just a strange environment and the fact that it was done you were like felt empty yeah and then you're like

oh I think that was it I think it was the element of like five years of you dedicating your yourself to your sport for that world cup like I always had that world cup in my head and then it's gone and now what now I know there's like like everything to look forward to the summer and stuff but in that moment I was like oh my go it's over well 50 other cricket playing in world cup is the pinnacle isn't it yeah it's like what you want to do yeah and then you don't have the opportunity to win the trophy so it's yeah it's just it was weird and I'm yeah like I said not processed it all and it'll take a while so yeah a few years a few years might be the next one what about you because it was obviously a very different experience for you having played and won

2017 to then be commentating in the next one having cried after the semi-final and being like so proud of you all because like obviously like still friends of you all want you to do really well like when australia started just going at 20 and over in the last six overs I was laughing I was like, this is just Australia like they are just so good and it was genuinely just a privilege to watch it because I was just like, this is never going to happen again like this is unbelievable

and then obviously Nat was batting really well and I didn't actually realise how like we got too 80 and all it would have taken is somebody to get 50, 60 70 you know the next top score was 27 and that got 150. We just needed one more partnership with that and it would have put them under pressure

because as good as their batting line up is I don't think they're bowling attack matches how good their batting attack is. I think Darcy Brown was really expensive that day and she had the freedom to bowl rockets and be quite a loose cannon and be erratic. And have three slips in and it didn't really matter. Yeah, because the run rate was above sixes from the start. Yeah.

But after the game, selfishly, because you lost, I didn't have any work to do. So I could have a beer straight away. So you could relax straight away. Had you have won, it'd have been two and a half, three hours of like proper work and there was no interviews the next day or anything which was a relief but obviously I would have liked to have done that yeah going back to what you were saying about laughing there was a point where I think I came back for my third spell which is actually quite unheard of

in my little middle over's bowl in his yeah I mean usually the ball in the eight overs fell in the middle um I bought a ball to Alyssa Healy which I know what you're going to say wouldn't have landed on the cut strip so she stepped outside leg stump I followed her and she She hit me over cover, and I just had to laugh. I was like, there's nothing you can do. When someone is batting like that, there is nothing you can do to stop them. I remember seeing that, and we had like a TV replay screen on our thing, on our, like, bench. And it was live, but I wasn't on air, and I saw her hit you over extra cover.

I saw, oh, cross, it must have been outside the off stump, because that's a great shot. When I saw it was like a fifth leg stump Yorker, she's moved to hit it over extra. I was just like, there's nothing you can do. And then you set your field for it, and she paddles you before. Or you then set you have a deep cover of fine leg, and she's, hitch over mid off before like that it was just it was one of them days yeah it was literally damage control because heather came up to me she was like do you want to put fine leg out for the paddle and I was like of all the shots she's playing against me that's the one that she's not executed so of the

six times she tried it she executed too so I was like right damage control no keep them up but I came off the pitch and I spoke to a couple of the coaches and I was like what was the feeling because out there it just felt it felt like we didn't ball badly we bought some bad balls didn't ball badly at all but someone just had a day and then someone said something oh we didn't have long off out for enough of the um our innings and i was like if we'd have had long off out she'd have found somewhere else to score it was one of those days it didn't matter where you put your fielders she was going to find ways of scoring and it was like right go to your yorker plans so you went to yorker plans and she still found ways of scoring but then you go you take away her in it

and Haynes got 80 odd don't you forget yeah it was just oh yeah it was just oh I think the thing that upset me as well that I got like I wouldn't have been able to speak about this a week ago without crying but it felt like we didn't do ourselves justice on the big stage

and it felt like there was so much media attention around the final and so much more than we'd had throughout the whole tournament naturally because people have picked up on the fact well they've just picked up on the fact that we're playing in a World Cup final and it felt like so many people

were staying up to watch and then we couldn't quite challenge as much as we wanted to and that was what I really struggled with was and it upset me because I felt like I'm not a bowler that should go at eights or not take wickets or whatever and people saw that

and it doesn't matter, these are the people that don't matter to me like obviously everyone that's loved me and watched me for the whole tournament or the people that I care about but it was just the fact that we felt like we'd missed an opportunity to be the England team that we can be yeah, yeah but like that happens

like you've just been outplayed by one player really for being honest without that if you should have got 50 you'd have been chasing 300 and it was game on I mean we did drop her twice well we dropped her on 40 but if some butts

with toffies and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas so pardon I've never heard that 15 I like that one I like that before do you want to read you my note that I wrote down before the game yes I might deleted it actually that's where I was at you're like bye

so if you remember my first note it was sing loud smile be a basic so it said tomorrow sing louder yeah taking every second smile which is very hard to do when you're getting a hit for six over like some yorker be basic and then I wrote at the bottom because I was I said to a load of people it's just another game it's just another and I think that was me just trying to level myself out and then when I drove into the ground when we got on the bus and went to the ground I was like it's not just another game it's a world cut final like why are you playing this down it's a world cup final going and like enjoy it and taking the occasion.

So I wrote down at the bottom, do it for that little girl who picked up the ball and fell in love. Oh, crossy. That's really sweet. And I didn't do it. I got tears in my eyes. That's really sweet.

I saw Lisa the day before and I was like, just another game tomorrow, mate. And she went, it's not the almighty is it's a walk-up final. Exactly. I think we were trying to play it down and then in that

you don't want to miss the occasion. I guess when everyone says it's just another game, they mean the cricket is just another game but everything else. I remember texting somebody while you're on the way and they were like,

I really want to just get off my phone and soak it all up I was like, do it then just soak in the occasion like it is you might never be there again yeah and the crowd was amazing for a neutral crowd

full, basically full it was so good and they appreciated good cricket and they saw a lot of good cricket so there was a couple of girls there and one was fully England stash and one was fully Australian stash

and they were there together and I was like yeah like someone was gonna have a good day at least yeah yeah Do you know what my favourite part of the whole tournament was, though? And I kept letting you know throughout it. But so many people at different venues would shout me from the crowd being like, Crossie, we love the podcast.

How good is that? In New Zealand, opposite side of the world, like, was so proud of us. The umpire, Lauren, the natural empire from South Africa from the final, we were having a beverage after she came up to me. She was like, do you remember the selfie we got? She's like, my brother loves the podcast. Oh, amazing. Yeah.

Amazing. Even our doctor said, she was like, I know Alex. I was like, you weren't involved when I was in the squad. She was like, oh, no, no, no, I listen to her all the time because my husband loves the podcast. I love that. I do have something about the umpires, because, you know, Sue Redfern slid in, didn't she? asking or telling us that the hunky umpire wants to come on the pod.

You saw him. On a plane. On a plane. Did he mention the pod? So I walked past him, and this is the first commercial plane that we've got. got for three months. Did you know what to do? No, honestly.

We went through a terminal. Normally we'd get driven onto the runway. It's amazing. So I spotted him and I'd give him a little nod. I was like, I'm like, here we've locked you in for the pod. And he said, I've heard the message, which I don't know what that means, but I took it to mean that he listened to the podcast and heard you calling him Alex Woof. I hear, I think that he's heard the message that I fancy him.

Maybe you're in it. Well, I've heard another rumour. Apparently all the unpires had to move hotels before they all got final because they all got bed bugs. Oh no, that's a shocker. Yeah. Would you rather have bed bugs or COVID?

COVID, especially in England. Yeah, true. It's not a thing. You need to get it. You've not yet. No, I've not. How weird is it coming back and there's just no restrictions?

No one's wearing masks, everyone's hugging each other. As soon as I got off the plane in England everyone took their masks off, like I was like what crazy um just want to shout out Lauren Bell and H at this point because we had a little scare just before we left so we finished the tournament we were first time we're allowed into a bar so we you know we went out had some dinner and at this point we weren't getting tested to come home because we were meant to fly through Dubai all those flights got cancelled

we had to come back a day later but we had to go through Australia which meant that we needed to have a rat test lateral flow so we found this out the day before Lauren Bell thought she had a two-day hangover, turns out it was COVID. So she tested positive for COVID and had to stay out there for another week. To put it into perspective, she's still there now. She's still there now. She was only meant to be in the Australia leg, so she'd packed a bag for three weeks. Three months later, she's still there now. And because of duty and care, duty of care and stuff like that, H offered to stay out with them. So shout out to them. They're still in Auckland. H2 fingers is a gem for staying out there. What an absolute belter. Oh, what a time, crossy.

what are three months how we all tested negative after that though no idea yeah i've got no idea is this where we tell everyone we're going to have a break yeah i think so um i do have something else we want to talk about before we go oh yeah um but yeah we are going to have a little break now aren't we there's not going to be no cricket to report on that that we ever report about cricket but we're just fed up with recording it to be honest aren't we yeah i think we just need a bit of time off from it don't we yeah doesn't mean to say that we don't still love all our fans oh we'll be back yeah there's something i want to talk about because in a amongst all the World Cup frenzy that was happening.

Yes. There was a big announcement. Yes. There was. The 100 teams have announced where everyone is going to play and you can now reveal that you have signed for... The Welsh Fire! Yes!

And you true, true nobles fans and you true listeners, you figured it all out, you knew. And so many people on all of the media reports, I saw so many people comment saying whatever date it is, Welsh Fire playing Manchester original at Old Trafford on this day, Alex versus Crossy. Yeah, that's not sunk in yet, that bit. I'm looking forward to it.

We've been at Old Trafford today, actually, like we've been talking about it, and the girls were all around the table. We'll talk about the 100, because a lot of their teams are the same. Matt Porgensen looked across the table and just went, Judas. Nice.

I was like, no, he's not my fault. It will be. I mean, it was brilliant for the podcast last year. I was both in on the same team, but I think it's going to definitely add an element of something. I think it's going to be great because I've like,

what have you actually been doing? Yeah. Are you winning? Are you losing? Who knows? I can't wait for Welsh Trier to be top of the table. You be bottom.

You've got a good team. Really good team. We've just got a hope that the Aussies come over. Yeah, that is the worry. But there is the Commonwealth so we've got, you know they're going to be

in the country at least. But yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to hitting you for six. I'm definitely, definitely looking forward to ramping you for four. We're going to have to like, I call it the spud battle or something.

Yeah, we are. Battle of the spuds. Battle of the spuds. Oh, we got a spud t-shirt sent to us, didn't we ages ago? Yeah. Maybe we'll wear them underneath that. Underneath and pull it up when you get us to get a wicket. How are you actually feeling about it?

Where's your emotion at now? Crossy, my emotion with cricket is all over the place. I don't actually know. Okay. It's first day training. I'm dreading it. Because? I don't know if I want to play anymore.

Okay. Maybe for another time. Right, yeah, okay. But I'm hoping that once I get into it and we get out there and we start playing, I'll find my love for it again. You've also got to remember when you played a game in Australia, you wanted to play club cricket, you loved it. And that's the thing, isn't it?

I'm very good, which is to my detriment, of being in the moment of wherever I am. So in the moment, commentating, that's what I want to do. When I'm at cricket, in the moment, that's what I want to do. So I'm hoping after today's training in a couple of hours, I'll be. And you've also got to remember that you have never liked training. you've hated it even when you're a professional for England you hated it

so that's always going to like everyone with any job anywhere in the world they've always got something that they hate about their job that's just your part of it that you don't like yeah and I left in January

well actually technically left cricket in December so I've not trained at Old Trafford and I've come back to Old Trafford in the summer to go outside first session by indoors raining brilliant yeah brilliant

we have got a lot of games here at Old Trafford this summer though I was thinking about it on the way in because I did my little spreadsheet yesterday so I know where all my pictures are now it took me 18 years of playing cricket for Lancashire to get the opportunity to play at Old Trafford and it rained and we had

I think we got rained off actually I don't think I got the chance to do it 18 years and this year some of these girls are going to play six times at Old Trafford and that's not including the 100 no so good so home of cricket that's why it is isn't it look at it finally not that

terrible building down well yeah they have but it's that miserable outside the boys are training on a wicket out in the middle and the net just blew away brilliant welcome back i mean it was snowing on it it was snowing last week let's just be really grateful that we're not playing this week very true um so crossy we'll be back for the podcast soon hopefully when we're back for the podcast we'll actually be playing cricket together not against each other yep and then you've got your international series season our summer is again done my little spreadsheet mad yeah so we've got But Charlotte Edwards Cup to start with, so we'll be back with the regions.

Then we go into an international series against South Africa, starting with a test match. Duke's ball. Duke's ball, but got a ball at Laura Woolfart in a test match. Then we go into the Commonwealth, a whole new ground completely, never been there, never been seen. Then we go into the 100. Then we've got an international series against India. You've got a busy winter as well. Don't even look forward to the winter.

No, we're not talking about the winter. We don't even know when we're going to do this podcast again. It might be then in the winter. Right, guys, we'll see you in, I reckon, three or four weeks. Yeah, I hope you enjoy listening to some other podcasts. Oh, don't forget about us. Don't forget about us. We are still here.

We'll be on the socials. And if you miss us, just hound us on Twitter and Instagram, I'm sure we'll come back. Yeah, we'll give it three days. We'll be back. I'll be training on Friday with you, and then we'll be back in the podcast. Got middle practice at Old Trapp of Friday. See you there. We hope you're all all right.

Yeah. Yeah, we do. And we hope you're looking forward to the season starting. Cricket is back, baby. Yeah. Happy New Year, everybody. And remember, if Fis and Butts with Toffies and Nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas. And if you need someone, you've always got us.

You do that as well. Bye. And cross strikes in the first over. It's what England we're looking for. Hartley Falls. Down the track comes scoring this time she connects. It's either six or out. It's six.

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