Test Match Special - No Balls: Watt's this? Scotland at the T20 World Cup?

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Alex Hartley and Kate Cross speak to Scotland bowler Mark Watt as he and the rest of Scotland's team arrive in India for the Men's T20 World Cup. He talks about the scramble for visas and flights to get over to India, as well as the team's schedule ahead of their tournament opener against the West Indies.You can hear every ball of every match of the Men's T20 World Cup on BBC Sounds, 5 Sports Extra and the BBC Sport app and website.

Al, we've got to issue a swear warning because you are an absolute potty mouth. Not another one. And you need to remember that your grandma listens to this. She does. She also abuses me on social media. But don't worry, we beep it out. See your kids can listen. And Grandma Jean. Now I'm celebrating for Crossy.

That one was for Crossy. That was a beautiful delivery. The Wobble Ball again from Kate Cross. And that is such an important wicket. Kate Crossing for the Hattrick Ball. Oh, it's so wide. Hello and welcome back to No Balls of Cricket Podcast with me Kate Cross and you Alex Hartley.

Hello, my darling. Hello, we are no longer together and in the studio. That lasted long, didn't it? Yeah, we managed to bash out two or three episodes together. Yeah, and we can't see them because we were in the fancy studio and the videos weren't bloody working. I know now I'm in my pyjamas in Sri Lanka, getting ready for tea. And this video I'll end up out.

I'm in a store cupboard at the minute at Old Trafford because we get in the dressery room's renovated and everything's just been put in the umpire's room so here we are. Yeah, you've just had to tell Jack Blatherwick to shut up. Yeah, Jack Blatherwick and Luke Wells were just playing darts behind me but they've gone now so that's their appearance for you gone. Yeah, how are you my dear? Yeah, I'm okay, thanks hell, a bit cold, bit nippy. It's February. It's finally February. Finally, the longest month of the year has done. Happy New Year, everyone.

Happy New Year. No, but I'm good, thank you. How are you? You're not in the country anymore. Time differences. Yeah, time differences. We've done well today because producer Jack's actually really good with time differences. Well, you've taught me a secret hack.

Oh, you've got it on. I've done it. So on your phone for everyone that obviously can't see because it's a podcast. So for everyone that can't see, you can make it show the time zone of a different country, but on your home screen. So now I know what time it is where you are. And I know what time is where you are because there's no point in me having that if it wasn't for you because mom and dad are in this country as well. Yeah, perfect.

It's for the podcast. We've finally, after seven years, panned away to get it right. But no, cross it. It's actually amazing how the weather makes me just happier. Yeah, you're smiling. You're actually grinning. Yeah, it's warm, it's beautiful. I have sat by the pool.

So for context, I'm in Colombo, but I've come out early for a holiday. Having said that I am just deep in my World Cook notes right now. But yeah, it's lovely. I'm so glad I came early. It's so warm. When does it all start? Starts on the 7th. So that's Saturday.

Oh, that's soon. I'm excited for this World Cup, you know? Me too. I'm literally just going through. I've just done my own hand notes. Oh, man, they were hard to do. Oh man. Oh man.

ESPN didn't know who one of the bowlers was and neither did I. Ah, happens. Yeah, so I was doing a deep dive into Oddera. A lot's gone on, hasn't it, in the buildup to this World Cup? Which I don't really, I know we're not a podcast that talks in great detail about cricket, but it really feels like even we can't ignore what's gone on this week. It has been wild, hasn't it? And so much so we've actually got one of the men of the moment,

as a guest. But we didn't really talk about it in detail with him. So for anybody that lives under a rock, Bangladesh have pulled out of the World Cup and Scotland have replaced Bangladesh, so they got a last minute call up. And now it's just come out a couple of days ago that Pakistan are going to play in the World Cup,

but they're going to boycott the game against India. Now, there hasn't been, it's third of February, Tuesday, 6pm here in Colombia. There hasn't been an update since they've said they're going to boycott that game. I saw, I don't know how true this is, but I saw that the rules and regs of the tournament hadn't actually officially been put out yet. So then no one knows what the rules are for or forfeit. So the ICC could now just change it to be like if you forfeit, the team gets 12 points.

Like they could make it anything at this stage. So there's a lot of unknown, isn't there? It's getting messy as well because obviously ICC are governing body. So they have to be seen to be treating teams equally. India bringing most of their revenue. India get all the favourable fixtures. You know, when they refuse to travel to Pakistan, they got to play in the UAE.

So it is all a bit of a mess. So it's going to be really interesting to see what comes of it all. Yeah, I've not followed it enough politically to know. But obviously the safety concerns from Bangladesh was why they pulled out, wasn't it? They didn't feel safe to play their games in India. And they asked if they could move just to play the games in Sri Lanka. the ICC said no, but then that's been allowed for Pakistan.

So the integrity of the tournament straightaway already feels a little bit, a little bit off the edge. Yeah, so it's going to be interesting. And do you think it's going to be one of them where whoever wins it is going to be like, well, it was that World Cup that was just a bit of a shambles? Depends if India win at home, isn't it? Like, if India win at home, it'll all be very, very quickly forgotten. But if somebody else wins, then,

Yeah, I think that will be an excuse. And not an excuse, but it definitely will. You know, we're four days out of a World Cup and it's like a Pakistan game against India. Yeah, what's happening? What's going to happen? Okay, so it starts on Saturday. You're basing yourself in Sri Lanka for a majority of it, aren't you? So we'll hear you on the radio.

Yes, yes, yes. I'm very excited, actually. We're ready to get going now. I've done everything. And when is England's first game? Do you know that? No, that's Stephen Finn's job. I take over. I take over England halfway through the tournament.

Okay. I've not got there yet. I am currently concentrating on what I do. My schedule starts with Pakistan, Netherlands on Saturday, and then it goes Sri Lanka Island. England come over to Sri Lanka after the group stages if they get through. Good job we've got a very diligent producer, isn't it? Because he's just come in and said,

England start their tournament Sunday morning, UK time, against Nepal. 9.30am. Okay, there you go. There you go. We can cricket then, perfect. Oh my, crossy, there's two, three games a day. You are back-to-back cricket. I'm going to be absolutely fine for the next few weeks then.

Yeah. So before we get our guest, I want to just, you know, put the record straight. So for anyone that thinks, you know, I don't work when I'm calling these tricks because my social media is just always like the nice stuff. In the first 11 days, I've got 10 games in a row. How many are on the same day? No, so no double headers for us, which is good. Oh, nice. Oh, that's good.

It's one game in Sri Lanka, one game in India. Yeah, nice, okay. Well, that's good. It's good to know that you're earning the taxpayers' money. Moving on. I don't have anything on my sticky note, so shall we, while we're talking a little bit about cricket, just introduce our guest? I actually think we should because it's spicy.

Crossie, I am so happy to say we've got a guest. We've got Mark Wat from the Sky. Scotland team who I can only imagine Walser, you've been had a mad couple of days. Yes. It's been a crazy week.

It's been a very crazy week but glad to be here in Bangalore. Now just finish training and training for World Cup. Who would have thought? Before we get into this, can we just talk about your podcast set up

because this is more professional than ours. You've got the cricket, the Scotland thing in the background. You've got all your photos and your logo's up and you also look like you're about to start

call the duty. Yeah. With your headphones on. Yeah. I think it looks like I'm about to start a fighter pilot or something. Yeah. Very professional. This is not mine.

But it looks pretty good, doesn't it? It's very professional. Very professional. Mark, when did you get the call to say you're going to have to pack your bags? You might be going to a World Cup. It was probably about four days ago. No, it wasn't it? I think it was three days ago.

We got the confirmation. So, but the week leading up to that, it was just so many, like, screenshots of, like, Bangladeshi journalists and all these tweets. All the boys were just flying around saying, like, is this true? Is this going to be happening? I remember I called my dad and I was like, oh, we might be going to the World Cup, I think. And he was like, nah, these things always, like, sort themselves out. And then two days later, he was trying to boot flights to Calcutta. Oh, wow.

It's been a really crazy week. But yeah, here we are. Can you kind of put into perspective for us because you actually, obviously, you didn't qualify back in July, but then you didn't even finish in a position where you might be the next people to qualify because Jersey were ahead of you. So how is it, not necessarily how has it become you guys, but like how does it feel to have had the disappointment back last summer? and then now you're like, oh my God, we're on the eve of a World Cup. Yeah. Again, it's so severe. I did a chat at a local cricket club at Clydesdale,

and they were saying, oh, what are you going to do when the World Cup's and I was like, I'm not even going to watch any games, because I'm just still so gutted that we're not playing in it. And now here we are. But yeah, like you said, Jersey beat us. I think in that game we had to try and win by a certain margin, so we went out and played in a particular manner. but no we still lost the game and they finished above us so yeah I can I can sense that the

jersey cricket team will be a bit frustrated but yeah I'm not complaining at all you win so you lose some little jersey exactly when you obviously started seeing all the rumours about like you know Bangladesh might be going you might be going where are all the boys so what what were you meant to be doing over the next month because I can only imagine some of you would have been playing franchise cricket somewhere you but one lab that's been at the end of the 19s world cup but has everyone been dotted around everywhere yeah i mean leeski lives in aberdeen he was shoveling snow as they were getting all these like calls um we had a few sessions um because we had nothing really planning the schedule till namibia next month and we were just doing kind of like

fitness stuff uh twice a week we're doing oh thank god you got out of that i know we're doing um we're doing boxing and then whilst we're boxing like in between sets we're like so do you reckon like we're actually going to go and then obviously like the cricket scotland staff don't want to get our hopes up at all or anything like that and whatever they knew they kind of had to keep confidential so um yeah it was just like not a lot of cricket was going on it was other things and crossy's trying to build his house at the moment so he's doing all his di i follow that on instagram it's a really good follow for anyone that loves a renovation, it's great. I wouldn't say it's a really good fall, but...

No, it's not, actually, but it's... Some fits are interesting. So he's, like, stressed over there past, like, three, four days trying to get other people to go in and, like, sort out the stuff that he was going to do. Yeah, I mean, people who have kids as well, trying to get them minded and... Oh, God, yeah.

What were your plans? My plans, not an awful lot, to be honest. I was just kind of... Yeah, not an awful lot. I didn't really have anything. Got all my holidays and stuff out the way last year. I came back from Nepal, then Nepal Premier League,

so I was actually looking forward to a little bit of a break. And then, but I'm very still happy to be. Let me just say that. Just get that in there. Yeah. But no, everyone had different stuff going on. Cricket was probably put to the back of our heads, whilst the World Cup would be going on anyway.

And now here we are. I've just got already the Netflix sign-off in my head of like, you guys winning the World Cup. And then for future generations, they're all going to be not doing cricket. They're all just going to be boxing in preparation for World Cups because Scotland won it. Exactly.

But no, everyone keeps saying Denmark in 1992 because they didn't qualify for the Football World Cup and then I ended up winning it. So anything's possible, but yeah, imagine that. I really enjoyed the fact that like over the last couple of days it's Saturday when we're recording this for a bit of context but there's been more and more cricket stories on your lad's social media and less and less holiday stories

so I'd run into the indoor net's like yeah it's like that scene in the office where it's like okay it's happening it's happening stay calm stay can but no I must say like cricket Scotland's done really well to get just to organise everything so quickly and getting everyone out to India so quickly. And we actually had our first training session yesterday. And there was only seven of us.

I was going to ask, is everyone there? Has everyone made it yet? No. We're coming like bit by bit. Will you have a team for the first game? In the warm up games, yeah, we should do. If not, we've got physio on stamp. I'd be third man going fine leg to fine leg.

Yeah, nice little debut for him. I'm sure. I'm sure we'll be good for them. So can you talk us through like logistics? Because obviously to get to India, you need a visa. ICC booked the flights as well. It's kind of out of probably cricket Scotland's control a little bit, isn't it? But yeah, was the visa an issue?

Yes. Yeah, the visas can take, I think, anywhere from like two days to two weeks. So I think the ICC we're trying to get whoever's in charge of them to speed up the process a little bit. So we actually booked flights. without our visas coming through yet just to try and prepare them

so if they come on the day the flight you get on them my flight was cancelled about half one in the afternoon and I was going to speak leaving for the airport

like four o'clock and I got on a flight two days later and then I got my it was like Willie Wonka and the chocolate factory I got my golden ticket and I was like

oh you need to get me back on the flight you need to get me back on the flight tonight I can go and then called the ICC ICC then changed the ticket so then I was back on my original flight it was just mayhem and at least you living in Aberdeen had to drive like two and a half hours to Edinburgh airport so he got his visa through at the same time as me he called I think he would have drove to India if he needed to I mean he would have found a way yeah you would have went by boat or something but no it's been it's been a stressful stressful week just not knowing

and also you're hearing all these different texts on so many people around the world you're saying like oh you boys are going but you're trying not to get your your hopes high

you're trying to kind of stay level being like nah it can't happen it can happen and then suddenly it has so yeah it's so cool yeah I mean it's unusual to get to a World Cup in the way you have

but it's also an amazing opportunity but now you're there And you're in India, and you've done your first training session, is it a bit like, what we're in India? Yeah. So, it's so bizarre. Like, we're all kind of at breakfast. And I was chatting with Jonesy, Michael Jones, yesterday.

And he was like, man, like, where are I woke up? Like, I know. It doesn't feel like it, is it? And he's like, no, I know. And I was like, yeah, we're facing like Rashid Khan and Nabi and stuff and like two days in the project. And he was like, yes, man. And he's like, have you always been like,

prepping hard. I was like, no, I've just been doing boxing, really. Best win fresh. Best win fresh, exactly. That's the main of both. So, no, we're all, we're all just so excited and so grateful that this opportunities came about, but also kind of feel sorry for Bangladesh on the other side as well. Yeah. Well, have you got plans now that you're there? Is there like a plan of when everyone does arrive and you've got everyone there? Is there going to be like a big chat about it or is it just going to be?

going to ride this wave or, you know, has been any talk about how are you going to approach this tournament? No. Well, obviously, yeah, but we're not really going to chat about anything other than cricket, if that makes sense. So I think it's just kind of right into game plans, into kind of doing what we do. And yeah, we've got a few, we're going to have a few meetings before our first game. And yeah, it's just, to be fair, we're just taking a day by day. and see you what happened. See who rocks up. To add a bit of stress to it as well.

We were supposed to do this podcast an hour ago and you were at training and it was running late and then you got blue lighted out of training to get back to the hotel for us. So we've just added a little bit more stress and a bit uncertainty into it for you. It's fine. This has actually been the least stressful thing

I've had this whole week so it's all good. But now that we're here, we've got all like the anti-corruption and media stuff like all crammed into TV. So you guys know all about that. It's a bit, can be a bit jarring. But, no, we're all good.

So it wasn't to be here. Has you got all your kit? Has it turned up? They're wearing Bangladesh's. For anyone that doesn't know, when you go to a World Cup, you have to have specific World Cup kit. It's got the big name across the front. You can't just wear the kit you wore last summer, can you?

You can't just wear cricket the Scotland kit? You have to have specific World Cup kit. So I'm guessing people are scrambling behind the scenes to get that there for you as well. To be because I think cricket Scotland and Green X have done really well. I think I don't want to like announce it here but yeah we've got

We've got kit on. Give us an exclusive. We've got some kit on the way but I think we're wearing like our old kit for the warm up games. Yeah. So fingers crossed. As we speak someone's in a warehouse

just writing on Scotland on the front of the kit of the old kit. Like what? but yeah it's just again I'm going to say this that Kruger Scotland have done an unbelievable job considering all the things it's just been done in like three or four days

it's been pretty chaotic have you have you had time to look at your group do you even know who's in your group yet I know who's in the group I have no idea when every game is yet so I think that's actually quite a good thing that you don't have too long to actually prepare for these games

sometimes you can kind of overplay them in your head and think too much about opposition. Yeah. Sometimes if you just go out there fresh, oh, okay, he's bowling, it doesn't really matter, bang. And then get into it that way. I suppose you've still got quite a big leader. So actually, I know it's all been a bit chaotic,

but you've still got a decent amount of time before your first World Cup game. Yeah. I think it's just all those other things that I mentioned before, getting all crammed in when you kind of want to actually just take a second just to breathe and just think right okay we're here let's actually you know people are already talking about oh they've had no preparation it'll be no good like we're not thinking about that

at all we're thinking about right how can me how can we use our time wisely that we've got before the first game to actually get ourselves you're the underdogs now yeah I know I quite like it yes this is like one of those it's like a simulation that you go into an interview and they're like right so you find out you go into the world cup in three days what's the plan going to it's like one of the like you can't really write it can you or prep for it it's crazy it is it is but yeah I mean I do I've said these things happen but I kind of feel like they don't no they don't um but no all the boys are just so happy and so buzzing after the the heartbreak of not qualifying I was going to say do all those emotions

that you felt in July I was like oh what a waste that was not really not really but it's Honestly, the emotions over the past week of like waiting for the confirmation because you've just, it was actually horrible. I think I looked at my screen time on my phone for that week. I think I was on my phone for like nine hours a day, just like refreshing to whatever, seeing what people are throwing. We're looking on Skyscanner. Yeah. I'm just glad it's happened and we're here. And yeah, here we are.

I text George Munsy about a week ago saying pack your kit, chief. He just said, cheers cheap. And I was like, no, you meant to give me some gossip. It's like you meant to tell me if you're packing your bags on off. Everyone's after the gossip at the moment. It's horrible. Yeah, that's how I've got you on the podcast. I know.

You can't actually give it out because we didn't get, like, having everything that was on Twitter already. And then other people are texting, like, in the cricket world being like, yeah, pack your bags. And you're like, oh, I don't know where to believe you. I don't want to get my hopes high. Yeah, it's just been crazy. Right, let's actually turn our attention to the World Cup now. So you've got England, West Indies, Nepal and Italy in your group. Obviously, there was a little bit of heartbreak around the Italy situation last summer.

So who are you looking forward to playing the most? Oh, there's got to be England, isn't it? On Valentine's Day as well, how cute. That's very romantic. But I think someone told me, I don't know, You're going to have to fact check this, but I think we play England in the morning back home time, and then they play in the Calcutta Cup rugby that same day. Okay.

You're going to have to check that. So you know that information, but you don't know your own fixtures. Yeah, exactly. Good. It's good start. It's because you're just getting ready to watch the rugby. Yeah. Oh, yeah, our producer is just giving us the big thumbs up.

You've got it right. That's true. So, yeah, it could be a double victory for Scotland. Who'd think it? But no, that's what we're preparing for. And Italy, it's about, you can be like, right, no, we are definitely better than you. Let's just beat them. Oh, yeah, 100%.

I mean, we want to be saying that stuff about every team. Yeah. But yeah, I think us and the Italians, there's actually a lot of chat going on with us and Italians in the field. Yeah, it kicks off a little bit. A fight talk. Does it? Yeah, it does. Maybe if you lose to them, you could take them.

on in a boxing match. Oh, we'd be ready. We'd be ready. You'd be well ready, you guys. They'd got a few big guys, actually. I don't know if he would, but. No, I actually used to play with Wayne Madsen at Derby.

And he'd tell me about how he was trying to play. What a man. Oh, what a man. He was telling me at the time that he was trying to play for Italy and stuff and I was like, oh, imagine one day we play against each other. I think he was saying that, imagine we played against each other at the World Cup. So there you go.

It would be interest. I've still won absolutely no idea. how to bolt him. He's the king of playing against spin. I'm really looking forward to this World Cup now. It's kind of been on the horizon a little bit and obviously you guys haven't thought about it at all. Personally obviously I'm a bit like got a bit of favouritism for the associates but I just think the more the merrier and like you see these international teams the the test playing nations play against you are so often. It's kind of getting a little bit samey. I think it's really refreshing when the

associates come to play against these big teams. Obviously, sometimes the results don't go your way, and then people online say, oh, they shouldn't be playing at this level, blah, blah, blah. But it's the only way these teams and ourselves are going to learn how to play against the likes of Joff Raj and people who can bowl 90 mile an hour. You don't really face that often in the associate game. So it's a great learning curve, but also we're not there just to learn,

we're there to beat teams. Upset. I love a World Cup upset. There's nothing better than the last World Cup than when the USA beat Pakistan and everyone went wild. But it just shows like

you guys can compete, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I think it's frustrating that we have to wait until World Cups for these things to happen. But no, it's exciting. Wati, thank you so much for joining us. Obviously you've got a lot to think about

and a lot of workshops to go on complete now so we won't get any way too much but thank you so much for coming on. That's all good. Thanks very much for having me. It's good fun. Thank you very much and thanks for telling us

what a chaotic week you bad. That's all good. Mark what? What? What? What? Who? What?

How good? He's just been like Yeah, look. How mad. A bit chaotic. Oh, how many times did he thank the Scottish board. Ticket board, I know. You kind of have to, though, don't you? Because do you know what? Moments like this really go to show what people can do when they're under

pressure. And I think about the times that like kit orders haven't made it in time and we've had to play in last season's kit for the first couple of games of the season. You can do it. You can absolutely do it. Yeah, you can. And they also pay his wages, so he's obviously going to say thank you. Yeah, he's got to say thank you, hasn't he? But it's a map story. I'm still quite confused as to why Jersey haven't had the opportunity. That hasn't become clear to me yet. And I've tried to do research on that. I still don't know why they leap from Scotland.

I got here and done some digging. So I think it's come down to world ranking. But then what's the point in the qualifications? I know. Jersey probably feel hard done by and rightly they should, but I think it's coming down to world ranking. I saw an interview that the head of Jersey cricket spoke and she said that

she was so, so humble and down to earth about me. She's like, well just qualify on our own terms next time and like didn't say that anything was bad or they were disappointed, obviously they were disappointing but I just thought, oh, you could have had your moment to get to a World Cup and it's

gone. No, it is, it is odd that one but, you know, Scotland I feel for them because everyone's talking about them, no prep, like get the excuses in, but actually just massive wonder dogs. I think sometimes that's best because you've not had time to overthink anything. So they'll just go and obviously, form will be an issue because they've not played any cricket,

but they've done the bleep tests or whatever on Sunday. Yeah, what did he say? He said, we were meant to have fitness testing and then the coaches said, we should probably net. Probably have a net, yeah. So they had a net instead of doing fitness testing. But if they get into any sort of fights, they're boxing, they're going to be ready for it. They're going to be ready. Well, it might turn to be a 50 fight this World Cup.

I know, it sounds a bit like it could be. But good luck to Scotland. I love an underdog story. And like said, I'm here for the Netflix documentary already if they were to win it. Shall we do? A shout out to the teams that have qualified for the Women's World Cup from the qualifiers. Yes. Yes, because it all came to fruition last week, didn't it?

Or a couple of days ago. Netherlands, Ireland and Scotland. It was down to the wire in that last game. So if the USA had beaten Scotland in the final game, then USA would have qualified. But Scotland won. And with Gabby, Lewis out here as well because her partner plays for Ireland. And she was just like, oh my God, I've fallen to the World Cup.

How good. How good. I kind of what USA to then. I was like, everybody did. Yeah. But again, everyone loves the underdog story, so that's why. But it makes, I think it's better for the tournament that Scotland have qualified. Yeah, me too.

I feel sorry for likes because they've lost a lot of people. Well, I was just thinking I want to have to bowl at Catherine Bryce in the blast now, which is perfect. Perfect. Right. Crossy, I'm going to let you get back to training. Get some research done, darling. Yeah, I am currently doing Zimbabwe.

Nice. Got a lot down there, Al. Yeah, I just started. You spelled it, right? Probably not. Good luck to Nambia this week. Yeah, I did have to Google Zimbabwe. I was like Zimbabwe.

Way, yeah. Looking forward to hearing. you. I'm sure a lot of people would be looking forward to hearing you again because you didn't get much air time in the ashes, did you? No. No. Screen time, not much air time. One of the boys said to me, went, I never listened to TMS before. It was actually quite fun. I was like, thank you. There we go. There we go. Remember not to mention your period.

Oh, no, I won't. Obviously not. I'm on it now. Don't. Don't you dare. Do you know, I have to... Right, everyone. Last weeks. Last weeks, we went and got a pregnancy test this week. I'm bleeding. I hate the female body. No one emails us anymore, but we've got to give our email in case someone does. So you can email us on. Noblespodcast at BBC.co.com.

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Can't wait to watch. Good luck, England. Good luck. Harry Brooke. I was going to say Josh Butler then. No, no. Good luck Joss as well, though. Oh my God, we didn't even talk about Josh being the most cat player ever for England.

Talk about it next week. Those are too much. See you. Bye. I've got to go out there and be the best that you can be. We're going to go out there and lay it all in the line. And skill collide. And the Eagles are beating the cheese.

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