The Ashes: Head hammers down England hopes
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01:02Drew Bowls to Travis Head.Big shot down the ground.Coming up for long-off boundary,one bounce before, he's got there.It's another fine effort from Travis Head.In front of his home supporters,absolutely loving it.Second hundred of the series.
01:20He goes down on his knees and kisses the Adelaide Oval Pitch.After three days of this test match, Australia are in total control.England's chances in the game were slim after Australia dominated.The second day, today's play confirmed Australia's dominant positionand the home crowd were treated to another hometown 100.Travis Head making his second century of the series.After being dropped on 99, a difficult chance to Harry Brooke in the gully.Australia 271 for four at the close.
01:59A lead of 356, head 142 not out.Carey is 52 not out.Earlier, Stokes and Archer put on 106 for the ninth wicket.But too much damage was done on the second day.And England allowed Australia, a first innings lead of 85,and they built on that by the close of play.And with two days left, it feels as if this game is only going one way.Phil Tufnell is with me
02:30Glenn McGrath is with meJonathan Agnew is with me to round upthe day's playwell firstly Jonathan justsum up where England are in this test matchwell that's tearing down both barrels unfortunatelyI mean there have been glimmers of hope haven't thereand the way that Stokes and Archer batter this morning
02:46gave everybody some hopecould they have chalked off another40-50 runs that would haveagain you know made itnot so simple a task for Englandbut it would have at least reduced that leaddown to 40 or 50but 85 in any test match
03:02it's still a significant leadand so for all the optimismyou knew realistically thatAustralia could easily build on thatthey lost that first we get quickly, weather oldit's been the case throughout the serieswhere whenever Englandhad just opened the door ever so slightly
03:16Australia just slammed it shut againand that was the case again todaythere would be moments 149 for 4think oh okay that was whenGreen was out a couple of quick wickets therequadja having been dismissed before him you thinkhang on a minute, just a chance here.You know, they've shut the door again.
03:33Total lack of pressure.68 overs, England bowled, three maidens,two of which are bowled by Joffa Archer,because they know they can just play Joffra,10 overs for 15, they play him,a little score runs quite happily at the other end.Will Jacks again, I mean,I don't want to pick him out,
03:47but, you know, holding an end,he's going for over five and a half and over.The Australian definition of a spinner holding an end,Nathan Lyon, is two and a half and over.and he just I don't know why Stokes keeps bowling himI don't know why Stokes didn't bowl himselfthere's clearly something therealthough I were told that he's fit to bowl
04:04but he can't have beenbecause he would have he would have bowledbut quite simply run scoring is too easyat the other endsthere is nobody to hold that end for the scene bowlerswho come they come flogging incast as usual you know runsruns through a brick wall for you
04:20I thought tongue bowled quite nicelybut they resorted to that short pitchedattack again which always looks desperateAnd they did it at a strange timesIt did when Kerry first came inRather than just bowling in the orthodox areasIn which you do at a new batsmanWhy on earth was Jacks bowling when Kowager first came in
04:36Why didn't they bowl pace at each ends for KauajaGet him on that front footHe doesn't want to get thereGet in Knicking behindNo, no, have happened at Will JacksYou know, there were just strange decisions like thatThat haven't helped England's causeBut Australia have just been head and shoulders above England
04:51That's all you can say about itYeah, the Stokes one is an interesting thingwe were told he was fit to bowlbut is he reallythat's the thing is it I meanhe's fit to be out therebut he's had a punishing firstcouple of days and we all
05:07saw him with cramp yesterday eveninghe bought a lot in the first thingshe's taken on a lotbut his position at the end of this serieswill be interestinghow fit is hehow fit is he to carry on playing test cricketthat's an answer only he can
05:22he can decide but I think it's a perfectlylegitimate question to askbecause there will be the usual inquestpeople will lose theirjobs as a result of all this it's inevitablebecause of all the controversy about the preparationyou know that there will be jobs on the linewhat will Ben Stokes decide to do I think
05:38that's going to be very interesting to seedoes he think he can see it throughanother 18 months to the nextashes at home when you think that England wouldhave a reasonable chance of winning thator willhe decide lookmy body can't take this anymore I'm off to
05:54leagues yeah well that's certainly for the future isn't we've got a bit of cricket to playbefore we get there well how did you see today tubs i think we've over the years you knowenormous amount test cricket has been played and there have been lots of days like this wherea team who are better than the opposition have a first thing's lead and they just nail it downwhat what else could england have done today um difficult i i tell you what i'm slightly ininterested in it. And this is selection. This is selection now. Everyone knows that at Adelaideyou play a spinner. Is that correct, Glenn? Pretty much bang on. The wicket spins. I canunderstand, I can understand, perhaps not playing a spinner at Perth. Yeah. Perhaps at Brisbane.
06:46Perhaps not playing a spinner just a bit of part-time. But to not play a spinner, a full-time,recognized spin bowler at AdelaideI think there might be somethingjust clogging up a little bitof selection here I know the whole thingabout pack the batting and what have you butyou know and I'm not havinga go at Will Jaxx because he just hasn't got the
07:07tools to do it I'm afraidbut then I just want to know sort of like whywhy you know whywhy has Bashiralmost become unselectableand for the second innings in this matchJacks has well more than anybodyit's just exactly
07:22extraordinary it's reallyIt just totally backs up your argument.Yeah.And they've got a very part-time spinner bowling.He's had a very little experience.And he's bowed more than anybody.He's gone for five and a half and over.Yeah.
07:33But then I just, I can't...Where's that thought prose then that hasn't then gone for that?I'm not quite sure.Well, is it in the planning that actually the Bashir project, if you like,was a wishful thinking project.And when push came to shove, that you mentioned the word unselectable.And it's quite a tough word, isn't it?But he's not going to play...
07:52He's not being selected.If you're not going to be playing here, I can understand, you know, bits and pieces.It's very young, very inexperienced.It's like Bethel.I worry about Bethel, who might get chucked into the next test match.He hasn't got a game yet.I mean, he might be supremely talented, and he might be the moment.It might be the moment, actually, that we launch Jacob Bethel.
08:10But to play test cricket, you've got to know, you've got to be comfortable with your own game.You've got to know what you can fall back, or do you've got to have some experiences of being under pressure and so on.To be able to use that as experience to take into a test match.You know, a 21-year-old spinner with such little experience,that's a really tall order, isn't it?To expect someone to do that.But isn't it?Well, yeah.
08:31How are you at 21?How are you at 21?I think it was here.Oh, right.No worries at all.No, I mean.But it is young for a spin.Well, it is, mainly because of the body of work behind him.
08:45Yeah, exactly.Hasn't got a county.Has it got this, hasn't got that.So you've got nothing to rely back.I'd been playing second 11 cricket.Exactly.A couple of seasons.For Middlesex and hardened...
08:54Got John Embry looking after you and all that.Absolutely.So you come in here, okay, great big sort of wide-eyed and what have you,but you then have to fall back on what you got in the bank.Yeah.And if he's not going to play here, I don't know why he was here.Why he's here?So it's just perplexed to me a little bit.
09:10Why he's here in the first place?Well, absolutely.I mean, yeah, I don't know.I mean, even if they've looked at him and said, well,he didn't bowl very well in the warm-up games,and he hasn't been bowling really well at the nets.no disrespect to Will Jackshe would have bowled better than Will Jacks
09:25because he's a bowleryou know it's in the bloodit's in his boneshow do you see it Glennlooking in from an Australia perspectivethe spinner issue that England have had hereyeah it's an issue without a doubtNathan Lyon
09:40he didn't bowlwell he bowled two overs in Perth so fair enoughhe didn't play in Brisbane so again I agreewith toughest but here you've got toplay a spinner you know a fronton spinner if you can or someone who's an out-and-out spinner because it was taking turn on day one.There's been a lot of talk about England's batting this series, but really they don't looklike taking 20 wickets.
10:04They've taken 12 wickets in Perth, 12 wickets in Brisbane, and they just can't build pressure.And then they go straight to these bowling plans and fielding placements where they're waitingfor the Australian batsmen to get themselves out.That's not how you play test cricket.You've got to put the pressure on you.You've got to keep bowling good balls and challenge them.And when they make a mistake,have the catchers there to dismiss it.
10:33So how are you going to take 20 wickets?Fine.Think, oh, we'll just chase 500 every game and we can get it.But if you can't take 20 wickets,I don't know how you're going to be number one in the world.The field placing at once they see Travers' headwith what was the head about fiveon the sort of gully
10:52to sort of point areahe's still trying to get through therethough yeah and he's justwhacking itlike standing in a rifle rangeyes it is just waiting for the ballto be blazed at youyeah exactly
11:05listen you know I mean that islisten we've all had tough days on flat pitchesand if you come off and as a bowlerGlenn and you know this you know and you take your bootsoff and you go well listen that was a long hot daybut I tried to hold melines and I tried to hold my disciplinesI didn't get a bit of luck and things
11:21and well that's fair enough butto then sort ofgo to that plan is justespecially when Kerry's just come inhe hadn't faced a ball and they went to theleg side short stuff and Coagercoming out all know what is vulnerableand what he's good at and what he's vulnerable at
11:37that again was a glaringtactical error to bowl Willjaxat Coaja when he's just come inthat's inexplicable yeah exactly andI agree with toughest you know you've had dayswhere things don't go, well, twice in my career, we bowled all dayand we didn't take a single wish.Yes.
11:53And I'll tell you, we put more pressure on the batsmen those two days,but they were just too good than what England did hereor have done this nearly this whole series.So, yeah, they've got to find ways to do it.And whether it's tactical, there's no doubt about that.Is Ben Stokes, is he a good captain?Does he have good field placement?I don't think he's had a good series.
12:17I really don't. I think he was off it in Perth.I think he's been off it here for reasonsthat we just mentioned. I think it has beenan excellent captain. He manufactured three wins in Pakistanand there's desperately flat pitchesthrough really brilliant captaincy actuallyand incisive field changes andthat was Stokes at his best
12:37but I don't think he's had a good series here. There's no field changes herethere's the first one I will go to a short polethen what? It's just likeI don't even go back to somethingit's just let's just stick at thisI think sometimes it might be a little bit that you think to yourself,well, I don't know whether the bowlers have got it in him to just hold it.So then you've got to be a bit funky.
12:56You're almost thinking to yourself, well, they're going to be getting cut and slashed.So why don't we actually make a plan around your bad ball sort of thing or something?No, you're right.Yeah, you have plan A.If your bowlers can't bowl to the plan, you can't go to plan B because they're not going to be able to bowl to that.So are the bowlers up to execute?Well, that's the point I raised earlier.How do England actually practice that short ball attack?
13:22Where they can't do it in the nets because the batser wouldn't face it.They don't play any games, so they can't practice it in that.Harold Lauer, never going back a million years, was brilliant a body linebecause they practiced it in counter cricket before the game here and did it.And they were incredibly accurate.It wasn't running in and overhead high bounces like you see here,flogging the ball in.It's getting the ball into the body.
13:42It's being really, really accurate.It was no coincidence.is that Woodville got hit over the heart here in that famous game.But there's no protection.No protection.And you can put 20 bats, 20 fieldsmen on the behind square on the leg side.So things are a little bit different.But you've got to still bowl it accurately.
13:58If it's not working, you can't keep doing it.You've got to look at, they've got to look to take wickets.You've got to be out there being proactive.I hate that short pitch.How are we looking to get them out?Oh, we're waiting for them to get themselves out.Like that's, yeah, you put yourself in that position of the bowler and you think,really is something to run up and go
14:17bosh every ball and just bowl into the dirtI'm actually a better bowler than thisyou can't help but think thatyou're right and if that's what you're doing run injust how are you going to get a wicketyou're just bowling yourself in the ground and you thinkwell to be honest there's a rare chanceI'm actually going to get a wicket here
14:34rather than bowling that channel getting it throughmix a pace up work on the ballhopefully get a bit of reverse swinga few different things like thatcoming around the wicket wider in the creaseso you don't see much of that.There were stats on how many Australian batsand I've got out to it, I'll sit down and try
14:51work it out tomorrow, but not very manyis the answer to that.No, and also, I've just never...Were they not watching Australia bowl yesterday?Which was just an absolute, you know, masterclass.They should be sitting there.Here's a question, though,do England have the bowlers to pull off that planner?
15:08Bowling, you know, the channel, whatever.Something that Steve Smith said before the seriesabout having them pick the right attack for the current Australian...Listen, every professional bowlerwho's international bowlershould be able to bowl on the top of off stunt,otherwise what's he doing it?Exactly.
15:28Is it too boring for them?I don't know.The young, next generation, oh, I can't.That's boring.You know, 99 balls out of 100, top of off stunt with occasional...Oh, no, that's too boring.It can't be that.The point behind my question is if you look at...
15:43If you look at cast, you look at tongue,they're not really off-stump bowlers, are they?You wouldn't say that before the series' time.You know, wood, cast, tongue, they're not really that type of bowl.You'd say, Atkinson probably is.You'd say that Stokes probably.I know what you mean.But I know what you mean, but they're...
16:00You're saying they should have to do it, whatever.The captain says, bowl at the top of off-stump,you bowl at the top of off-stump.It doesn't matter if you're that kind of bowler or not that kind of bowler,if you know what I mean.You know, it's beggared belief.Just flicking through my notesI think Kerry was called it
16:14Third Man in Perthwhich was a bit of one of thosebut just looking through thisI don't see any other Australian batsand who's fallen to thatI just saw at Englandwhen we batted Harry Brooksort of the route
16:29Crawleyyou know that sort of coming forwardand ohyou know one of leaveand it's that forward pressall I've seen Australia dois step back and just flog itCut, cut.
16:42Through there.Look, there are lots of negatives.There are lots of negatives.Should we just focus for a few minutes on a positive?Archer's batting.Archer's batting.Badger's 301 in first class cricket.Yeah, but let's start with his bat.
16:57He's starting to show what he can do.I mean, you average 31 in first class cricket with the bat and you're a fast bowler.You're actually an all-rounder, aren't you?Yeah.You are with the average of 31.The average is, I think, eight in test cricket.We haven't seen him bat like that in test cricket.actually until this tour
17:12and he's played really well therethat's goodand he's bowed really nicelyI think the Australians do feellike it will just see Joffar offand then we're going to fill a boots at the other endI think that's part of themhe's bowed two of the three maidens
17:26but he has bowed wellhe's running hardI would like to see him startlike Mitchell Stark does bangwith a straight on itbut that's just the waythat he prepares himself okaybut I mean he's
17:38he's done wellhe's had a good gameyeah well he didEngland started well todaythey could have quite easily been200 runs behindbut you know Stokes and Archerthey put that partnership together
17:52and yeah that first session todayyou'd have to give to Englandand then from then on it just sort ofas the day goes it sort of just slips backinto the what's happened the rest of the tours so faryeahGlenn do you think Australia are just sayingwell that Ben Stoge is not bowling
18:07do you think you are saying not see off job for Archerand then we'll we'll playunder the rest? Well, they're sayingCof Archer, you know, if he, he'sbowled two, what's your bowled ten overs?Two lots of five overs.In 66 overs.Like, I'd want a bit more out
18:23of him than that. But, you know, evenif you just bowl, give him, the problemis you can't give him a three over spellwhere he just comes on a blast because it takeshim an over and a half or twoovers to warm up. Then you get your three overs.And then, so, yeah,they would have identified
18:39he's the danger, without a doubt.Okay, let's just seam off, seam off, and then it's easy, yeah.So it's a simple game plan.Look at Tuffus, search for positives.Oh, hold on.How have you felt Archers gone, Tuffus?I think he's done all right.Yeah, I think he's done a right.
18:55I think that sort of criticism at Brisbane, you know,when they were just knocking off 60,has just sort of stung him a bit.And he's gone, well, hold on a minute.I think that was a bit harsh, you know,and a bit unfair, and I'd rather...No, it wasn't.Well, no, but you know what I mean.
19:11Yeah, he's going, well, hold on a minute, I'm going to show youI'm a bit more than that, and I thinkhe's done well. Listen, Pfeiffer's Fiver,he was plodding throughwhere we're staying, and, you know,he could, see, he was a bitweary, you know, and I said, well,bulge off and he looked up, and so you should have,
19:26five wicket, in a test match,is a big thing. It's hardwork to get Fifers,apart from this fella next to me, he used todo them pretty simply, butthe hard work to get Fifers andprize people out on flat pitcheswhen they're determined, you know, he's a determined batters.
19:43And so he should take a lot of credit for that.The issue, well, the problem is, if the rest of the series goes like this,Joffa might be saying, well, you know, bug a test cricket,I'll just go and play the T20s earned good cash.It's four, you know, four overs.I can steam in.I can go out and slog a few.It's, you know, this is hard work out here.
20:02So why would I want to run in when the rest of the team aren't backing me out?You're listening to the TMS podcast from,BBC Radio 5 LiveThis month in football, everything is up for grabs.The Premier League battles intensify, the Champions League reaches its crucial turning point,and the World Cup draw sets the stage for the biggest tournament on earth.Football Daily from the BBC brings you sharp analysis,instant reaction, expert insight, and the stories driving the game on and off the pitch.
20:38Your essential football podcast, deliver.every day.Listen to Football Daily on Spotify,to Football Daily on BBC.comor wherever you get your podcasts.Well, we've been giving our reaction up here.Let's find out what they're thinking.Who is it today?
20:57Well, look, on the first day,it was bowling coach David Sagan.On the second day, it was assistant coachand Marcus Drosthic.Today, it's the spin bowling coach, Jitin Patel.He's been giving his reflections to Henry Moran.This morning it started so well, their partnership with Jop and Stokes to continue on from last night to get us within 100.It was probably more than we'd asked for, you know, in this situation.
21:20I thought Jop had it amazing.You know, we're getting it early wicket, the hopes are up and obviously they put on a strong partnership.I mean, either I knows all that sort of stuff.I think we took wickets to the right times.We just couldn't back it up with those clubs like Ozzy did yesterday.Why is that?Oh, look, mate.Maybe it's a lot of time to do it.
21:37Maybe it's a lot of heat.Maybe it's all sorts of things.it has flattened out you know it's one of those things it's just I don't think Ithink we went through different plans so I think boys trying to execute as wellas they could but I mean the way Travis heads batted there is next level andhe's probably showing us how I could go about it there's a lot of people thatsaid this was the defining match of this era of English test cricket and at themoment it's going Australia's way I mean a lot of people say a lot of things about a
22:06lot of different things well the first game was the finest so was the second so I was theI think every game of test cricket we play, especially out here in Australia, you know,it calls for heroes and we haven't had them just yet, but maybe we have tomorrow and the day after.But no question about it, this was the tour that was the tour that was going to be the key momentfor Ben Stokes and Brendan McCullum. I mean, is that not widely accepted as part of the story?I don't think that's from our narrative. I think that's everyone else's narrative.I think that narrative of being the series is everyone else's story.But we're out here to try and win a series against Australia and take away the ashes.
22:44And look, we've got a lot of work to get there to be, to do that.We've got a lot of work to do from the start.Hasn't gone our way so far.We've got a huge mission in the next couple of days.But I mean, this team's done some amazing things before.I've always said it.Tomorrow and the day after, it'll be pretty magical, I think.What's the maximum you feel you can chase down?
23:04because there will be a limit.Oh, look, I mean, I don't know the maximum, mate.I really don't know.I really don't know. I don't want to put a number on that.It's been a long while coming for a batting line-up like oursto put on a big score in the series, maybe the next two days.It's all about how we come out in the morning.I mean, the guys are neck at the moment, right, is so.
23:25If we come out in the morning, we put another couple on it.Look, 400, let's say we can bowl them out for 420.And we, no one knows them, mate.This England team's job is simple now and in some ways the clarity of thought is something that can help.Well, that's exactly it.You know, we spoke about that this morning or the coaches did exactly that.It's like, you know, maybe being backed into corners when we need to throw our most punches and maybe that is tomorrow and the day after.Ben Stokes looked devastated when he got out today.
23:55How's he doing?I mean, he put so much effort into that innings, didn't he?He sort of got ourselves into a position where, you know, we might have been able to push the play.closer and I think it was a good ball to get him out but but also I think the workhe'd done the night before I put him under put him in a position where he's likeright now it's time to press on it didn't quite work from I think that was wherethe devastation was and you know look even even what he did yesterday was prettystrong and in a different innings for him to play the normal he had to dig deep to
24:26find that and it was thankful that he did because he got us within reach is he fitto bowl yeah he is fit to bowl from what we know lookHe's just come off the park now, so we'll find out more, but from what we understand he is, yeah.It's a surfers that seems to be taking turn.Did England pick the right team, do you feel?Oh, mate, the hindsight's the world, isn't it?But, look, I don't think Jackson's ball particularly poorly.It's just having two set batters on a drying wicket that may have flattened out for now,
24:53and it may spin again later, as was expected.He found it very difficult, and rightly so.I mean, you're playing test cricket in Australia against some of the best players in the world.world. And he didn't quite get it right all the time, but I don't think he bowed poorly all around.And just finally, as coaches, your job is one of coaching, but it's also making sure there'sbelief. How do you do that ahead of the rest of the game?Well, that's exactly it, mate. I mean, that's part of our job, is to make sure these guysbelieve in what they can do and how they can express that out there. And we'll get that
25:23message across as well as we can tonight and tomorrow morning, and we'll keep pushing theseguys towards a danger, because that's the only option we have.Ash is still alive?Who says it isn't?Well, there we go.That is Jitin Patel, the England assistant coach,although his emphasis is on spin bowling.What did he make of that, Jonathan?
25:42I was wondering who they're going to wheel out tomorrow.Not sure who's left.That fellow drives the bus.Well, look, as you've said every day,it's impossible for them.These people to come out and try and talk sensiblyand things that would, you know,they're not going to talk entirely honestly, are they?
25:59They've got to support their players.So, you know, it's not right.to come out and say, yep, that's it. The ashes are over.Jack's can't bowl, and that's it.I mean, they don't want to come out and say that, are they?So, you just stick a microphone out there and ask the questions,and then you just get the answers, and you're not really worth discussing, I don't think.No, you're probably right.
26:20And it is a question almost in that situation.What else can you say?Because, you know, you're on the verge of going at 3-0-down.Look at the scoreboard.Yeah, I think sometimes you've got to be honest.I totally understand what they say and everythingis a very difficult thing to dobut sometimes I think you've got to be honest
26:40and occasionally you've got to saywell hold on a minute we might have got something wrong herewe might have got something wrong therewe're going to learn from itand we're going to try and put it rightand make things betterI don't think there's anything wrong with that eitherthere's been a bit of that actually
26:56between test matchesand Brendan McCullumand definitely and Harrybrook as well actuallybecause he said I'd play a couple of horrible shots, didn't he?And Brendan McCullum was talking about the other dayabout we haven't been, we haven't played as well and all that sort of thing.And perhaps we do need to slightly adjust.And probably Ben was saying it as well.
27:16Well, let's see how they bat in the second inning.They've got a lot of work to do still to bowl Australia out.I'd like to see they come out and bowl with much more discipline tomorrow.They'll have a new ball in, what, 12 overs or so.It's almost exactly the same situation as this morning, actually.new ball of 12 overs, let's see how they come out,and then let's see how they bat.And then we really will be able in a situation
27:41of being able to pass judgment on that.I mean, at the moment, the game still isn't over yet.So, you know, there's always that in the back of your mind,but I mean, although it feels as if it's going one way.Something you picked up on during the day's play tougherabout where Jamie Smith stands.Do you feel he's standing too far back?There were a few balls that seemed to,
28:01There was one that actually did drop in front of him.There was a Nick from Labashton didn't cost England very much.And you feel that he's taking it very low down?Listen, I don't know too much about wicket-keeping,but I remember old Jack Russell, you know,snorters, as we used to call him.You know, he didn't like to be scrabbling around his ankles all the time,having to come forward and everything.
28:23And we were talking about, you know, Jack's as a, you know, a full-time bowler.You know, it's sort of in your blood.what you've been doing.And, you know, I think as a wicket-keeper as well,you're forever assessing where you're standing a little bit.You know, it's just a subliminal thing that you're doing a little bit.It's just there because you've been doing it.It's a job and everything like that.
28:47And it's the same when they're sort of like you're between the wicketsand you're the engine and, you know, I was talking to Ian Healy about it.You know, you're not plodding up the other end, you know,and the bowler turns round.I bet every time you turned round, bang, there was your cordon, you know what I mean, ready for you, go, come on, pitch, come on, you know what I mean,it's sort of slowly getting into position, you go, come on, let's, you know, so there is a little bit of that, but it's been tough, it's been, it's been tough day for England, you know, but there are just these little things that you start thinking, you know, is it ingrained in what they're doing, you know, is that, is there a belief?because there's going to be a belief issue as wellyou know, Jacks is there going
29:28well, you know, I'm a part timeyou know what I mean?You're listening to cheating thereyou know, we've got to instill belief butthere are belief issues with peoplewho, you know, it's not theirnumber one thing they do.Yeah, yeah.
29:43Well, Glenn, would you,keeper, would youhate it if the ball dropped short of themor would you be prepared for them tostand up if it meant they droppedto catch that came up around thereelbow or something or shoulder?No, the keeper is incredibly important
30:01and needs to stand in the right placeand where the slips stand depends on the keeper as wellso you want the keeper sort of carrying through nicelyyou don't want to sort of falling shortbecause then you'll get the one that edges and fall shortso yeah the keeper's incredibly importantand like that tough has saidthey keep everyone going
30:21You know, that's the energy, the getting between the wickets.But, yeah, if the ball's falling short and bouncing, no, they're far too deep.Look at Alex Carey, he's been up at the stumps.And, yeah, absolute masterclass.So this pitch is not going to get any easier.It's going to go up and down, I guess.You've got to stand where you think is the right place.Some will fall short on this pitch, but you've got to back yourself.
30:47Right, let's hear from the Australia company.Now, Nathan Lyon has been speaking to Corbyn, Middlemass and the ABC team.You've got to give credit to England.They fought back with the bat this morning.We kind of expected that with the class of Stokes.And then Archie played a pretty good handy knock there as well.But the class of our guys, especially Travis and Alex here in the hometown,it's pretty amazing to get us in this position.
31:12But I'm not happy yet.Boy, you can be happy, mate.The way you've played so far, three days of unbelievable,just relentless Australian pressure.It looks like you've just got better and better as a teamas the series has gone on.But yourself, those two wickets early,has it spun or is it spinning more?
31:29I think it's going to spin more.I think we're going to look in the way Jacksand even Rudy were bowling there.I felt like there was more consistent spin,even though they may have been a tad too wide here and there,but I feel like it's going to spin.And obviously, disappointed to miss out the last game,but, geez, you didn't miss a beat.
31:48game straight away first over straight on the money coming out all right yeah yeah feelfeel very happy been really good progress through the shield cricket into the lead up tothe ashes obviously I've had this an eye on this hostage series for a for a long period oftime it's obviously take me a little bit longer to get my teeth into the series butthat opportunity will come later in this game as well what about you mentioned thethe wicket there do you think it's going to keep deteriorating like that because it wasobviously really hot and oppressive conditions maybe talk us through that and then alsoSo what do you think will happen with the wicket?
32:20Yeah, I think the natural wear of the wicket's going to be there.It still looks like a pretty good batting service at the moment.But if we can do the basics long enough for long periods of time,then hopefully we'll get the chances along the way.Did I see you had the pads on too?Were you a summons tonight, watchman?Yeah.What's going on?
32:40What is going on?No comment.Just quickly, I thought they might have gone after you a little bit,attacked you a bit more.You had great plans.You bowed a beautiful line in length,and you had the fields in the right spot to cover everything.Did you think they were going to come after you harder?
32:58Yes and no.At the end of the day, I want guys to come harder at me.It's a lot more enjoyable and a lot more funwhen guys are trying to put you under pressureand you hopefully trade a little bit more chancesor a few more chances along the way.But, yeah, we'll see how they go.I dare say they'll come pretty hard the second dig.
33:17line talking to the ABCteam. Now, justwrap things up. Zaltz is alongsideme. What caught your eyestatistically today? Well,let's start with a positive for England. Joffa Archermaking his maiden test50. 51 is the second highest
33:33score by a visiting playerbanning 10 or 11 in Australia.He's now got 99 runsfor the series, already the secondmost for England in an Ashes seriesby someone batting at 10 and 11and he's 18 runs away fromequalling a record that stood since 1884, five wickets and 50 in the first innings of an
33:53Ashes test.He's only the fourth England player to do that since 1928.Otherwise, not so good for England.Let's focus on that.So this is where the negatives come in, is it?Well, yeah.So Will Jacks being asked to do a job that he's essentially not trained for in his first-class careers,as you were discussing just then, conceded 100 in both innings.
34:16the last bowler to do that in an ashes testShane Warn at the Oval in 2005Warren had the consolation of taking 12 wickets in that gameand bowling like the leg-spinning genius that he was.The last England bowler to concede 100 in both innings of an ashes testwas Ian Botham in the final test of his legendary 1981 Ashes seriesso normally if you're a cricketer and you're in a stat with Warnand both of them you'd be quite pleased
34:40but maybe not so much for Jaxin that particular stat.Travis Head with his fourth 100 against Englandin all of them in Australiasince he came back into the Australian teamas a reinvented player at the start of the 2021-22 series.So 400s in the last seven Ashes test.He missed one due to COVID last time.
35:06The last seven in Australia,four consecutive hundreds on this ground.Only the fifth instance in Australiaof a player scoring centuries in four consecutive tests at a ground.His 142 not out is currently the joint highest second inning score for Australia against Englandsince Ricky Ponting's 156 at Old Trafford in 2005.And it was his slowest of the 900s he's made since he came back for this sort of second phaseof his career when he scored about 60.
35:4265% quicker than he did in the first 19 test of his careersince he came back and scored that blazing 100 at Brisbanefour years ago but this century of 146 ballsby 21 balls his slowest of his last nine test hundredsso a restrained innings that just confirmed Australian dominanceof this game aided by Alex Carey the first wicketkeeper everin an ashes test to score 100 and a 50 in the same gamealso five catches in an innings
36:12Only two other keepers in all test matches have 150 and 5 catches in an innings.Matt Pryor was won for England against New Zealand at Auckland in the 2013-14 series.Kerry needs just 13 more runs to have the highest match tally by a wicketkeeper in Ashes history.No Australian keeper in any test against anyone had scored at 150 previously.So a great match for him.And just a sort of curious nature of the nature of the game.the play today, 27 consecutive overs of spin from this end of the ground.And when England took those wickets and maybe had a chance,
36:50you know, when the second wicket fell,Australia is only 138 ahead, third and fourth wickets fell quickly.Australia was 2.26 ahead when Green was out.There was still a glimmer of hope then,but England at no point really attacked with their seamers.I was looking at the workloads of the bowlers.Archers bowled 77 overs in the series cast 75.If you compare that with England bowlers in the first,
37:12first three tests of previous Ashes series. Jimmy Anderson in 2017-18. They bowled 130 overs afterthree tests, 129 overs after three tests of 2010-11. Graham Dilley, 137 in 1986. 87 in that 17-18series, Broad and Wokes both bowled over 110 after three overs. Darren Goff, over 150 overs in the firstthree tests. We bowled brilliantly for England in 1994-95. So the fast bowlers have not had a heavyworkload in this series so far.but England chose not to attack with pace from both endsat those key moments todaywhen they had a final glimmer in this game
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