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Episode Date: March 26, 2024Simon Mann is with former England and IPL star Ravi Bopara as well as Aatif Nawaz to discuss tight finishes, captaincy conundrums and English performances at the start of the IPL....
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Hello, I'm Simon Mann and welcome to the weekly Indian Premier League podcast from Test Match Special.
The 2024 tournament is underway with all sides having now played and we're already seen some thrilling games to build anticipation for what's to come over the next few weeks.
As ever, the IPL is delivering some remarkable performances, stories and finishes.
This is the TMS podcast at the IPL.
Well, with me to discuss what we've seen so far in the first, just under a week or so,
is former Kings 11 Punjab and Sunrises, Hyderabad batter, Ravi Bopara and cricket broadcaster Atif Noaz.
Now, today on Five Sports Extra, we witnessed a repeat, a rerun, if you like, of last year's final.
Chennai Super Kings against Gujarat Titans, Janai Super Kings, who opened their IPL on Friday with a win against RCP.
They've done it again.
They've won by 63 runs.
It was dramatic in Armidabad last year.
It really was a thrilling finish with Ravi Jadaja winning the game.
But today in Chepak, it was a bit of a stroll, really, for Chennai Super Kings.
Let's just have a look at the match itself.
Chennai making 206 for six and Gujarat Titans never really threatening to get anywhere close.
Ravi, what did you like about what Chennai did today?
What did you not like about the Gujarat Titans team?
We've been so good for the last two years.
And they won the tournament two years ago.
They got to the final last year.
they probably should have won it and didn't.
What's, you know, what about them?
Well, look, first of all, what I did like about Chennai
was how discipline they were bowling in their first six officers.
Yes, they've got a big score on the board,
but they were brilliant through the first six.
They bowed at the stumps.
They kept the stumps in play.
You know, it says a lot when both of the wickets were taken off balls
that were straight at the stumps.
An LBW and one swipe out to the leg side
where there was a man standing there for the catch.
but it's important that you keep the stumps in play
in the first six overs
and that's something that the Gujarat Titans did not do
they were all over the place with their lines
their lengths
and they allowed Chennai really to free their arms
and it just gave Ratching that confidence
although he's off a few runs from the last game
it just gave him the confidence to go
right I'm going to come after you here
because you guys are obviously struggling
you're ill-disciplined
yes he did hit one off the top of off-stump
for six but as a bowler you've got to stay there you got a new ball in your hand
if you can stay in that area you know and make the batchman hit two or three or even more
off that area you're more likely to get a miss hit at some stage what do you think about him
as a player rushing revindra you really came to the four during the world cup he's 24 years
of age he plays for new zealand he's had a good start to the competition and sort of
capture the imagination a little bit of the chenai supporters and supporters all around
India, what do you make him as a player?
I think he's a very good player.
I watched him quite closely today, and I have done before,
he has very, very good basics.
He keeps his head very, very still at release,
when the baller releases the ball.
And then, you know, as the ball is coming down at him,
he's sort of in a forward position.
He's coming at the ball, his head's coming at the ball,
body weight going into the ball,
which is always a good sign.
It's always a good sign as a bachelor's.
It just allows you to, A, be able to time the ball
because your weight's going into the ball.
And you generally don't really get stuck on the crease
when you're in that sort of mode.
So he was brilliant.
He kept his weight going through the ball.
And, you know, if you end up watching some highlights of today,
you'll see it was a fantastic inning.
No Devon Conway so far this yet.
He might play eventually for Chennai Super Kings.
We don't know.
He's got this injury, but he was so good for them.
year but Ravindra stepped up and has had a good start.
The tournament, okay, he hasn't made a half century yet,
but he's got them going at the start.
And they've got a new captain as well and Atif as well and Ravi.
Ritteraj Gaiquod, taking over from MS. Doni.
I mean, so it feels a little bit, well, good luck with that
because of what Dony's achieved during his career.
But what a way to start?
A couple of wins right at the start.
I mean, that's got to do a lot for him, you'd think.
It's better than Dony managed some of the years as well in the beginning
because Chennai obviously famously known for starting poorly in the IPL,
but they've started really well this time.
And I feel like they've got a very healthy dynamic as well.
Mahendra Singh Doni obviously is known for being quite a selfless player,
happy to go down the order or de-emphasize himself in the batting order for the greater good of the team.
And we've seen some uneasy.
I mean, we're just reading between the lines really because we're just watching from a distance.
But if some of the alliances of the new captains feel a bit uneasy,
and we'll go into this a bit more, but just looking at the dynamics between hard
Bandia and
Roy Tsharman.
It doesn't necessarily
look as healthy
or as friendly
as things do
between, you know,
Ruth Raj Kaikwad
and Mahendra Singh,
Doni,
who really wants
his new captain to succeed.
So there's definitely
an element of that.
It feels quite harmonious
in that setup.
You know,
they've got access
to some of the
better bowlers
in the competition as well.
I mean,
Mustafa is,
again,
early days,
but he's got the purple
cap on already
for top wicket
taker.
it's a lot to like about this Chennai side
and as Ravi said as well
Ratchin Ravindra
I think he's going to end this tournament
as the top run scorer
Do we make too much of Doni as captain
or are we right actually
to doff our captain over the years
because his record is so great
so he's actually quite a seismic change
in a way that Guy Quad has now taken over from him
No I think
I think Doni was a very good captain
what he did really well was captain
very very simple you could see from a distance
to the trained eye
that he had his formula
and he stuck to his formula
he always backed his formula
over what the other team has got
and what they might present
you know in his day it was
you know I've got Jereja
as my left arm spinner
and who else did they have
Ashwin at a time as well
and those were his two main guys
and I'm talking about even the times he was
captain in India as well you know he had these
formula he had these opening bowlers
and he stuck with that
and that was their recipe for success
and I'm sure he has a big say
in building the team
for Chennai as well
he picks the right
makes the right decision
in picking guys like Mustafa Fisa for example
he's a perfect guy on a Chennai pitch
you know with his slow ball
which is his most important ball
is it's a spinner
you know it's a really fast spinner
it's going to get grip on this type of pitch
so he's been picked
you know with that in mind
so that's
you know, it's clever.
One thing I want to talk about is the impact player.
Shivam Duvay, I don't know how this would sit with you,
Rav, if you were playing.
Would you like to be subbed on or subbed in, actually,
subbed off or subbed in?
Shivam Duvay didn't start the first game.
So he doesn't field at all.
And then he comes in cold, you know, in the closing overs,
and your job is Shabam, you're the impact player,
you've got to win the game.
And today, he bats and he waxes it around for 50
and very entertaining.
And then he's hooked.
He doesn't have to feel.
Discuss.
It's great, isn't it, Robbie?
I mean, we need this rule in more tournaments
so we can squeeze more years out of some of our best players.
And I'm just reading Robbie's mind a little bit, I think.
Actually, you know, I've never thought of it like that.
But, you know, those batters that never really lose their way as a batten.
But, you know, they may lose their way as fielders.
They get found out in the field a bit, yeah.
Yeah, but they can be subbed off now.
So, I mean, you can prolong those careers, I suppose.
And, I mean, if you don't bowl, then it's the ideal game, really, isn't it?
Just have a whack and off you go.
It's almost like it's your ball.
You know, when you're in a playground.
Yeah.
You know, it's your ball.
Once you get out, you take your stuff, your equipment.
Cheers, lads.
If you just go.
I like that there's a formula with this now that sort of everybody's embraced.
And it's just not a gimmick.
It genuinely adds something to the game because now you've got 12 players that are going to be featuring.
and so if you're a batting side you're batting first
you know in your mind that okay one of this one of my top order
I'm probably going to be you know retiring or sorry
subbing off and getting the impact player on
as an extra bowler to give yourself that option
so it's added that sort of tactical depth I think it makes sense
it doesn't take too much time out of the game
it's not overly complicated it doesn't you know
there might be some traditionalists somewhere that are offended by it
but I think it's actually a good rule that adds something to the game
yeah and it seems to me cricket has come to this
quite late, isn't it about substitutions?
I mean, it was a no-no in
other sports. We have talked about this before.
It was a no-no in other sports, you know, way back
in the day, football, rugby, whatever, and then
those sports have adapted enormously.
Five subs in football and eight in
rugby union.
To me, it doesn't seem to, it doesn't detract.
And what it does do, I think one of the reasons
why it was brought in, wasn't it, to try to
even up the idea of the toss, wasn't it?
If you sort of got the wrong side at the toss
and you have to bowl
second and you didn't have the right
formula in your team, it was a bit
tough, like it felt like the toss was too important.
Actually, what's happened so far in the
competition, the toss hasn't been that important.
You can win the toss and lose.
You can bat first and win,
bat second and lose.
What we have seen
so far, if there is a pattern,
and I don't think it's going to continue,
is that the team who is at home
has won the game.
To me, that seems a bit of an outlier.
Seven games, seven home victories.
But Artie, you've got a bit of a theory about this.
Yeah, I think it's the crowds.
You know, they really do make a difference.
Like, with sort of 17 years into the IPL now, right?
So, you know, fans have really built that connection with their players.
Now, we saw this in the game in Ahmedabad where the very, very partisan Gujarat Titans crowd
were booing hard Dick Bandier out of the stadium, like loudly booing, right?
I mean, there was a little bit of pantomime element to it, but that has to do something to you.
Because it was their captain and he went back to the Mumbai.
Exactly.
So there's a bit of history.
and they're booing him
and they've turned him
into this pantomime villain
but equally you know
you see it happen
in loads of games
over the years
you've seen every time
you get a shot of Mahendra Singh
Doni and Chennai
the crowd goes wild
you walk into Chennai
you look at the crowd
everybody's in yellow
so they've that sort of
football Premier League aspect
I think is translated
a little bit
of like when you are going away
to a team that has
that fervent fan support
it's something that you
as an opposition player
have to deal with
even if it's not something
that feels like a massive challenge
it is just another thing that you have to overcome and add to your preparation.
So it's like going to Anfield, an opposing player going to Anfield, something like that.
Well, the Emirates these days, I would say, but yeah.
So Robbie, here's a question for you.
Did you ever get intimidated by playing in someone else's backyard?
Not at all.
The crowd's almost silent to you as a player.
I remember the crowd or feeling the crowd when I was batting.
If they were behind me, it did make a difference.
But generally, if it was...
So how does that feel?
Can you give an example?
I mean,
batting at, I don't know...
A chumps hood, for example,
where, you know, the crowd would start singing
and all that sort of stuff.
It just gets me into a zone, which, you know,
it can make a difference.
But I think the winning at home thing
is more about the pitches you can design for your team.
So if you've, if you're sort of spin-heavy
and sort of more on the slower side of bowlers,
then you can make pitches that are sluggish.
which suit your bowlers and you know you can make the pitches how you really want them for your team so that's the advantage i think of the of the home the home sort of wins and all that sort of stuff but can i tell me this though right in that match between Mumbai and Gujarat you know there was a moment towards the end where you know the equation is very much against
um but hardik bandier walks out of the middle the crowd is booing him he hits a six he hits a four it feels like he's going to take this game it's the storybook kind of
you know, it's like the
WrestleMania ending to this particular match
but he somehow, you know,
he doesn't get over the line
and he plays miscues, he gets out
and they lose the game from then on.
Is it, I mean, you know,
it's a crazy hypothetical,
but it's reasonable to say, right,
that had that crowd been behind him,
it might have just given him that extra bit of something
to push him over the edge
and just get him over the line.
Maybe.
You'll never know.
But yes, maybe, maybe.
It still comes down to execution at the end of the day.
You know, cricket's, unfortunately, it shouldn't be played with too much emotion.
The whole point of any sport is execution.
You've got to execute your skill.
And generally, the crowd doesn't help you execute your skill.
They can't do it for you.
You need the ice in your veins.
Is that what you're saying?
You need to put all that out of your mind when you're trying to ice at and trying to place a score.
But Ravi's like, you're an experienced cricketer who's played for so much.
many teams around the world.
You've had so much experience, right?
It's a different, I feel like it's a different thing for you versus, you know, a young
player, like a, um, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, a, uh, a, a, uh, a,
a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, he genuinely got rattled after a few
sixes were hit off.
Well, he dropped the opener, Guy Quad, uh, on one, and Guy Quad made 46.
They got off to flying start.
They were 69 inside the power players, you know, quite a big moment.
Yeah, no, actually, there could be something that you said, for the younger player.
The crowds actually might make a big difference
I actually didn't think about it
from the young eyes
and the experience guys
I can tell you now
it really does not affect them either way
but maybe for the youngsters
Good point
You raised earlier Atif this issue
of Hardik Pandia and Rohit Sharma
I mean from the distance
It does seem an odd one doesn't it
I mean Hardik goes off
He leaves Mumbai Indians
He goes off to play for Gujarat Titans
They win the IPL in their first season,
second season, they get to the final,
and they probably should have won it,
and they might have won it if it hadn't rained,
and the chase was a full chase rather a reduced chase.
And then he goes back to the Mumbai Indians.
He doesn't just go back to the Mumbai Indians.
He takes over from the man who's captain of them for so many years,
and also he's the captain of India as well.
So you sense some sort of disharmony looking at their body language?
Well, yeah, I mean, there's a few clips that did the rounds.
I can understand, of course, like, you know, anybody would do what Hardick did.
You want to be, you know, it's the premier franchise.
They're the big dogs.
They're the most successful franchise in the IPL history.
And they, you know, having the opportunity to captain them in Hardik's mind probably
cements his chances of captaining India further down the line.
He's captained India before as well.
But, you know, in a more permanent way, taking over from India's all-format captain,
Roycehrmer is symbolic in a way as well of that happening maybe in the future.
or you can understand why he did it.
But there's some clips doing the rounds of this on social media
of just the way he's guiding Rohit.
Like, Rohit is, you know, everybody loves Rohit Sharma.
You know, he's a wonderful player, particularly younger players.
He said so many lovely things about, you know, Drov Jarrell
and Zarfraz Khan, who just joined the test team.
So it's wonderful, really sentimental moments.
But I get the feeling he doesn't take kindly to other people's shorthand necessarily.
And so there were a few moments.
We're hard to used a bit of shorthand on the pitch,
getting him to move into position
and he just got that Rohit
Sharma glare back.
I mean, they call him the hitman, don't they?
I don't think you want to be in his side's really hard.
They're going to be careful, mate.
Well, it's probably one of those
where you sort of watch this space and see how that dynamic
sort of progresses really.
And I suppose it's about Mormonians winning.
If they start to win, then everything will be fine.
But it does feel like a transitional year in the IPL
because, I mean, we talk about that photo at the start of the IPL,
you know, that captain's portrait.
and it was really bizarre because you're looking at it
all of these players are still featuring
but you don't in that captain's portrait
see Rohit Sharma, you don't see
Mahendra Singh Doni and you don't see
Virat Koli. You see
three young players who have now taken their positions
in these leadership roles
and it does feel like there's a
transitional point coming in the IPL
it's not quite there because the players are still active
but we're nearly there.
Yeah and there are six different captains this season
we made this point in our opening IPL podcast
Some returning from injury and some captaining for the first time,
like Shubman Gillough had quite a chastening day, actually,
is Gujarat Titans, a captain today and his team well beaten.
And when you think of a Gujarat side,
who've done really well in the two years that they've been in the IPL,
this is quite a chastening day for them.
And also Rashid Khan as well, wallop for 49 from his four overs.
You don't see that happening that often.
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What have we seen in the first, one nearly week of the competition?
We've seen some really tight matches.
we've seen teams win batting first, which I think is good.
I think you need it.
In fact, I think more teams have won batting first so far than batting second.
I like that in T20.
I don't like this idea of win the toss, bat second, win the game,
as a bit of a formula.
And it's going to happen.
And I think the rule with the impact player has just lessened perhaps the possibility of that happening to some extent.
We've seen a couple of really belting games,
the one we talked about there in Armandabad with Mumbai Indians,
couldn't chase 19 off the last day when it looks as if they were going to,
it looks as if we're going to have that incredible script.
with Hardick Pandey
going back there
and six and four
and he's going to win the game
and then he was out
and of course
Gujarat won by six runs
but he also saw a remarkable game
incredible game
in Eden Gardens
on Saturday between KKR
and Sunrises
face off between the two
big hitters
Andre Russell
64 from 25 balls
with seven sixes
and then Henry Classen
63 from 29 balls
with eight sixes
and Mitchell Stark
with that big feed
that they paid for him, whacked all over Eden Gardens.
And I thought what was fascinating about that,
is the psychology of the game.
Perhaps you can talk a bit more about this, Ravi,
that basically sunrises were out of it.
They wanted something like 70 or four overs.
And then suddenly they were favourites.
They wanted seven or five balls.
And you think, well, you should score seven or five balls.
I mean, you would back yourself to score seven or five balls,
wouldn't you?
Especially if I've scored at 20 and over for the last three.
And then they made a complete, well, they made a mess with it.
I mean, the bowling side has something to say.
about that as well what's that like in that situation where you're losing losing losing and suddenly think well give it a go whack whack whack oh oh suddenly oh we're favorites it's a weird pressure that builds on you yeah the pressure almost switches back onto the batting side it's almost like no I should definitely win this and that's the issue with games going down to the last over you know that's why a lot of teams like finishing in the 19th over because once you get down to the last over even if it's six of six it's a couple of dots
you know guy swings misses
as another swing misses
and all of a sudden
it's now massively
you know you've gone from
we don't win this game to
oh we should easily win this game
to now going oh no I'm missing
this up now because we should win it from
you've got that little thing you're missing this up
rather you're messing this up
this little guy on your shoulder telling you
but remember you've got 20 others
and if it takes
you know the 100
120 balls
to win the game
then it takes 120 balls to win the game.
The point is just to score more runs in the opposition
and that it's it.
There is nothing more to it.
You make it sound so simple.
Your heart pounding, the crowd are yelling.
I know, I know, I know.
And nobody wants to mess up.
Nobody wants to be the guy who, you know,
could knock the six runs or seven runs off the last over.
But, you know, that's the game.
It's happened.
It's not the first time it's happened.
It's not going to be the last time it happens.
It's part of the game.
And you've got to accept that.
batsman and just going back to that game
and I was watching it was a great effort to get to the
biggest mistake I think class I made was taking the single
when they needed seven for five because he hit the first ball for six
now I need seven or five and then I think he
miscues one sort of you know inside age or something
and he should have just taken responsibility himself and then he actually
he did go for glory then later on the over and miscued him's court short third
it was a good catch actually with the problem came because he took the single
now you need six or four
the guy gets out
you can't swap ends
there's no changing ends
a new batsman comes in
he's on strike
and now they're suddenly
running out of balls
so I think what he should have done
was stayed on strike
said right I'm not going to run
still need seven or four
but he faces all four balls
because at the ratio
he said he was hitting sixes
he would have put one out of the park
and it would have been game over
but that takes a brave decision as well
you know seven or five
and you don't take the single
when you end up losing
well why didn't you take that single
you know there's no winning no winner in that situation
but for him to get the team back into that place that they were
he should have said no this is my game I'll control it
either I win it or I lose it
yes the interesting one what do you think of Classen as a player
he seems to me every time you switch on an IPR game
and Sunrises playing there is Classen whacking it out of the park
I mean he did it last year but he played a really unsuccessful team
the only one four matches but it seems to
Last season, we saw Classen hitting it, but his team losing.
And of course, it happened again.
He smacked it, but the team lost.
What do you think of him as one of the sort of, you know, the top T20 players around the world?
Well, he is at the moment.
He's having a real purple patch.
But he's got all the makings for a very good T20 batsman.
He's got reach.
He's tall.
He's got a great swing.
He's powerful.
So, you know, all those things.
contribute to you hitting more sixes than the other person,
the guy who's five foot eight.
You know, he can reach balls that other guys can't.
We saw him hit a ball.
I think it was a wide sort of length ball for spinner,
and he flat batted it straight.
Most other guys wouldn't have reached that.
They wouldn't have been able to get that much of the bat on it,
so it would have been more of a skew out to deep cover,
but he's flat batted it straight over mid off for six.
all those little little tiny things add up
to playing a good innings.
So he's got all the attributes.
One of the greatest hitters of spin.
He's really worked out, a great formula for himself
where he sits back deep,
waits for the ball to be sort of, you know,
that length, that spinners like to bowl.
He's now turning that into a flat bat
and he's smacking him.
You know, he's powerful.
Yeah.
I'll say he's one of those players
is that if I'm not doing a game
and I just see Classen's in.
You switch on, don't you,
and have a watch or listen to see what he's doing
because he has played some dramatic innings
in the last IPR and obviously at the start of this one.
I think we should wrap this up,
but let's talk about finally the England players.
And one of the things I said in our preview podcast
is I wonder how much they're going to feature for their teams.
And actually, there are quite a few
who are sitting on the sidelines for their team
that haven't featured yet.
Sam Curran, those made a half.
century. Phil Salt has made a half
century. Liam Livingston helped his
team Punjab Kings win their
opening game with 38 not out.
Luke Woods had a game, but 11.
Johnny Besto, an
8 and a 9 so far. That doesn't take
the tale of the whole tale because Berto
is a huge misfortune being run out
backing up. I don't mean what some people
refer to as a man card where the bowler takes
the bells off when you're backing up. I mean the ball was
drilled back and Boller got his, his shun got his
fingers on it and Johnny Besto was
run out. I mean I think, for
me, just bad luck. Some people say, well, it shouldn't
have been out of his crease, but you go with the
bowler, don't you? You're trying to anticipate the single.
It's just, sure, it's just one of those things. It seems
to me it's rather sums up Johnny Berto's sort of year
or so, really.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, if you think
as recently back to sort of
2022, the test series against New Zealand
where it looked like Johnny Birsto
couldn't not score 100. All he could
do was score hundreds in test cricket, and there was
nothing else that was going to
get in his way supremely confident
and everything was wonderful.
And then he sort of fast forward a bit
to the buildup to the Indian test series
that just took place
and people were sort of questioning his place
in the side.
And you think that's absurd.
This is Johnny Berto.
You know, this is a player
who's confidence, whose ability can't be questioned.
But, you know, people have that negative dip of form
and sometimes it goes on for longer than you think.
And sadly for Johnny, he's still in it at the moment.
Miss Q in his second inning's out for nine in his second game.
Yeah, I mean, it is difficult when, you know,
you've had that he had an injury as well remember to come back from that as well if you don't
quite get it right um you know the form can elude you it can be so difficult to find what you
had before um especially if you don't have a solid foundation to go back to johnny besto's not got the
greatest technique in the world but he does have is a very good hand-eye coordination he's powerful
as well so he'll always get away um with it because of his his ability to just hit the more
harder than the other guy.
But, you know, at some point, it's going to have to start scoring runs.
You can't, at the end of day, your currency is a cricketer as a batsman is runs.
It's numbers on the board.
And if they don't come soon, he'll find himself not playing in that team.
Yeah.
And a few have not played so far.
I mean, no moin for CSK.
David Willie is sitting out at the start of the tournament.
Cudor Cadmore might struggle to get in the Rajasthan Royals team.
Chris Wokes at Punjab.
Tom, current at RCB, Will Jack's at RCB,
which he's topply at RCB,
that none of those have played so far.
There was a sort of feeling perhaps before last season
that the English were coming in terms of the IPL,
but it's all tailed off again, hasn't it, really?
Yeah, it's tricky, really.
I feel most ready for Will Jacks.
Like, I mean, I think he's tailor-made for this format of the game.
He's absolutely phenomenal T-20 cricketer.
Anybody who's seen him in the blast in England
and obviously in 100 and all the other competitions where he's flourished.
It's just very unlucky that he's in the RCB lineup
where it's very difficult to displace their overseas players.
They've got some of the very best overseas players in the world.
You've got a lineup where you've got Glenn Maxwell.
How are you going to displace someone like a Glenn Maxwell and Coley and things like that?
I think eventually he'll get his chance.
I just fear he's got too much of a task ahead of him.
He's got to score 100 and take five wickets to keep his place in that side.
But I do feel like some of the players that have featured,
Phil Salt, I think, has made a very promising start.
And he's in the right team for me.
You know, he's in a team where he's going to get loads of opportunities.
And at the top of the order, he's always going to have a chance batting in that powerplay
to flourish and score runs and always look flashy and exciting.
Final thought, Ravio, what it's like when he get picked up by a franchise,
you just have to sit on the bench, sit on the bench, sit on the bench.
Is it bother you or not?
Well, I think it does bother you if, you know, you're young and you're trying to make an impression on the world.
You know, you want to set your, you want to set the world a lot and you're sort of being held back.
I think that's a difficult thing to deal with.
On the other hand, you know, cricket is a little bit different now to when I grew up, I must say.
You know, it was all about playing, you know, playing, playing, I had to get on the, on the, in the 11, had to get in the 11.
And I've been lucky enough to go through different errors
and see the change in mentality through the years.
Now the younger players are happy to sit on the bench.
They don't mind.
They're almost trying to get themselves on the bench now.
It's crazy.
I mean, I've seen it.
You know, I've been through the 20, 25 years
and seeing that the older players was all about playing.
We had to get in the 11.
But now they're almost like, well,
I'll get paid to sit on the bench anyway.
So I'll get my money as a squad game and that's a way of it.
That's a way of it and it's almost like that now.
Well, we shall see.
We'll see how many of those England players get in their various franchises
over the next few weeks.
An interesting start to the IPL.
That Classen versus Andre Russell Clash on Saturday was the highlight for me so far,
closely followed by Hardick Pandya,
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